Prostitution is not "slavery." Although it's not something I would do, or condone. If that's the case, consider strip club owners pimps as well. America is pimping you all. Case closed
@sirskeptic yeah, because male prostitutes wernt being attacked by this particular vlogger.....who is an extreme feminists, so he claims. only the female prostitutes, as usual, who of course can never think for themselves and always have to be someones victim, unlike free thinking and choosing male prostitutes. if he was pro women, he would support all women and their choices to do what they want, freely with their bodies. so im not buyin the bs.
Germany has had legal prostitution for 60 years and it works out taxes are generated
females may chose to enter the business and leave when they want. Also in the service we always had to use protection on the ladies and it was mandatory.
haha so great. I hate the idea that sex is a bad thing. its only ever a good thing no matter how it is done if its consensual on both sides. if not it isn't sex its rape. humans aren't even the only animals that engage in prostitution. its been observed in many other primate social groups. in fact there was a study that taught chimps that if they gave the anthropologist a coin they got food and the females took coins for sex so they could get more food lol. sex is natural and fun never bad.
its a killer subject, really difficult. The girls up the road at night look like wasted drug addicts, they are standing out there at 8am in the morning wasted.
They have benefits in New zealand. The benefits are low, however there seems no need to resort to prostitution
this is a good video, peoples views on this are similar to that of drugs. after something is criminalised, it never goes away, but just goes underground and becomes exploitative and all the rest of it. but that then is justification to attach more dogma to it
The rationale for prohibition makes no sense. They want to save sex workers from victimisation by pimps, so they subject them to additional victimisation by the state. For all the talk about protecting sex workers, prohibition is always ultimately about punishing sex workers for making unpopular choices in their lives.
If you are single or if you can have & maintain, a relationship with with a partner who can accept that type of "free will", then sure, I would completely agree with your viewpoint.
I believe many men, including myself, fear a relationship with a woman who cannot commit her sexuality exclusively too her partner, hence the reason most men in particular come off as the Knight in Shining armor, or the Savior.
I as a man associate sex as a matter of sacredness, love & commitment.
If you have no problems bouncing from man to man, making your money, getting your next meal etc, then great, more power too you. But if you want constancy with a partner and shared security, or attentive love and affection, then I would advise against such free willed efforts.
I truly believe morals do play a very important role in ones relationships.
Very heart wrenching to be with someone so free willed, eventually, someone will have had enough.
did a bit of research on prostitution after viewing this vid , and the price that the women charge at some brothels are like $1,000 to $40,000 , these prices come from legal brothels were the brothel charges $200 for the room visit , and the brothel only pays $560 Annul for license which is the same type of license as a liquor license , no wonder women take it on as a career ,
and again, like i told utubegirlx, if you have something to say, get the guts up and vlog it. my comment section isnt for trolls who dont have the nerve to put there voice or face out there like i do. im not interested in listening to opinions ofr trolls, sorry.
you have so much to say, say it in a vlog! I see you just like to troll around spewing your opinions and offer nothing back to the community. Anything else you would like to add, you can grow some guts, and say it on cam.
I think you might need to watch a few more amhemsley videos before you try to accuse him of "macho ego male bullshit". He couldn't be any less like that description.
I've no quarrels on your opinions about prostitution in this video, but I disagree with your assertion that morals are "purely subjective".
That morality is only subjective is at the base underlying the destruction of a moral society. What is the basis for laws in society if morality is purely subjective?
If our morals differ, it isn't necessarily so that mine are superior to yours or vice versa, but are they not both our individual attempts at understanding what is moral objectiveness?
Morals are purely subjective, but we can derive common morals... we can find common ground on what the majority of people find to be moral or immoral. There are at least two morals that are common to all people throughout time: no wanton murder and no lying.
While murder is acceptable in many context, there has rarely (if ever) been a case where it was socially acceptable to commit wanton murder. Even in Nazi Germany there was a "justification" for the holocaust in order to make it acceptable.
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I agree with you 100%. The idea that prostitutes sell their bodies is completely bogus. They sell a service. They retain full ownership of their bodies. The best thing we could do to improve the conditions of these working women is to legalize it. What really gets my blood going are these high powered dirtbag family values types who we catch doing it themselves.
just a little add in hun: not all prostitution is chosen, child prostitution and the force being used to get some of those girls to work. it's big business for the cartels that run these thing's.
child prositution and slavery exists because the trade is underground, its allowed to. If it were legal, finding these cartels would be alot easier. And sex slaves is not the same as prositutes. Its another whole differnt thing. Sex slaves are illegal thruout the world, for good reason, prostitution is not. I am NOT saying I think prosttution is good, Im saying as a free society, we cant tell people what they can and can not do with their bodies when they are hurting anyone else. Im pro freedom!
Prostitution should be legal and it should be the right of two consenting adults to engage in whatever they please, I completely agree there.
But there is a root issue which nobody is addressing: there are issues with these behaviors- prostitution, porn, striptease, etc.. Both men and women get emotionally desensitized and instead of restrictions and criminalization, we need proper education to deal with this problem.
How can we be free, yet remain physically and emotionally healthy!?
spot on. advocating that people be treated like animals b/c they decide to use their own body in a certain way is absurd and barbaric. clearly, the way state sponsored goons treat "offenders" is 1000x more offensive, or would be in a more sane society.
out of the videos i've watched i'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that if you film and upload it to the internet you can call it porn and it's perfectly legal lmao!
self respecting, youre judging. you cant hold people to your own personal standards and beliefs.
consenting sex between adults, whether it be for money, or a dinner and a movie, or a drink, or just because they WANT TO should not be against the law. period.
if they are victims, then why aren't you rallying to repeal the draconian laws that turn them into free slave labor for corporate owned state sanctioned prisons which does the opposite of rehabilitate them? thus leaving a mark on the woman's record that will prevent her from ever getting a good job again?
bottom line : it's not ok to break into someone's home and take away their freedom, because you think what theyre doing is "yucky"
but i guess your moral judgement doesn't extend that far.
Nothing good has ever come from prostitution. Research x prostitutes, hear their stories, see their tradgedies and self loathing. See how many have died at the hands of their 'clients'. etc. This is one woman's point of view.
sorry, dont believe in hell. just another one of your make believe fantasy bubbles that needs to be popped. by the way, santa isnt real either. *gasp* i know!
I think Hemsley is a socialist - and this sort of thing is typical of them. They think they have the right to violently force others to behave in ways that they find appropriate. (laws) But it's shittier than that, because they mask it all in rhetoric about human freedom and liberation.
And? I didn't use socialist in a derogatory or pejorative sense. I haven't branded it a "dirty" word, and yet you come at me with this cliche line. I pointed out what seems to be a tendency among socialists: they think they have the right to force others into behaving how they want them to behave, and they mask this totalitarian impulse in the rhetoric of humanism. It's shameful.
u seem to think that socialism is in some way equated with totalitariansim, and yet when u compare the us with the much more socialist european states u soon see that infact we have many more freedoms over here.
we also have most of the happiest countries in the world with the best healthcare.
Socialism is totalitarianism if it is statist socialism. Voluntary socialism is a wonderful idea, but the socialists may not forcibly oppress others who wish to be capitalists and etc. No one has the right to force others - not you, not me. Socialists deny this and claim the right to violently oppress people who disagree with them. (Capitalists) And NO, you do not have "more freedoms", you have more state-granted ENTITLEMENTS. If you don't know the difference, you don't know what freedom is.
if anyone is unhappy theyre perfectly able to vote for a different party, or move somewhere with more 'freedom' such as the us, bt as i said before far from being unhappy they are most of the happiest, content, highly educated and healthy countries in the world
Agreed. This way of thinking is judgement. I am not qualified to judge anyone, only myself(and do on a daily basis). "Why you point your finger when someone else is judging you? Couldja be, couldja be, couldja be loved?"
Once in a intro to philosophy class the argument was presented that prostitution was wrong because you wouldn't want your sister or other family member to do it.
I said i wouldn't want my brother to clean porta-potties, but someone has to do it.
As a former sex worker, it IS prostitution. The "power" that a woman can rationalize is a false-power and has "chains" of its own that has its own destruction.
YHWH calls it adultery, and that is not sexist. Yahshua loves prostitutes and desires them to be free from such a life.
I have had friends robbed and raped who DID go to the authorities and detectives that were respectful towards them.
YHWH cares about all of our bodies, even when we choose to abuse them. Shalom.
WE may have DNA history of being connected to the animal kingdom but I seek to be much more enlightened than that - I also seek those who wish to be spiritually enlightened than those who wish to support a system of disempowerment/manipulatiion/greed/ego.
Prostitution, like drug abuse may be unsavoury to many, but the ownership of body is not an issue for the state. This is why such things should be legalised, in order to protect the prostitutes (and regulate the drug content in the other example). In Holland it is legal, and high class hookers can earn thousands. Surely the example for the supposedly sophisticated Androcentric culture
Ive think you said all there needs to be said in the video. What consenting adults do between them is none of their business but theirs. Simple.
And forced prostitution? Well lots of women are being forced into marriage too. Does that mean marriage should be illegal? Or is it forcing people against their will that's the culprit here?
Totally agreed, although I don't pick up "prostitutes", I often do pay money to women friends. I need something, sex, they need something, money. In the end (no pun) we're both happy and go about our lives. AHHH I love being single
When you come back......you come back with a bang!!!!
Your points are well made....but I think that amhemsley is really more concerned with the sex slave aspect of it and maybe did not articulate that well................you are correct though, for most of us women.......WE DO NOT NEED TO BE RESCUED and YOU DID NOT RESCUE US.......men however do like to feel that way.......after all.......they are animals too.....
haha so true! some do like the role of knight! and thats all good, even sexy at times. lol
yeah, maybe he articulated it wrong, and should have stayed on the sex slave trade. that is illegal in every country, as well as it should be, and something we should ALL be fighting. slavery of every kind!
I disagree with you on this one Jakluk. I give you ***** anyway, for speaking up. To suggestthe standard streetwalker has the power is simply false. One of my parents was in Probation and she dealt with prostitutes all the time - they are slaves, junkies, a lot of them started before they were legal - Orphanges are recruitment grounds.
High-class call-girls might have power - might have choice... probably do. The majority don't though. Wretched, pitiable women, forced into it by circumstance.
hey Kiddo, i dont think we disagree on this. Women are stripped of their power, because of the laws, and men who control them. I totally agree. IF however, this was decriminalized, and we treated it as a business, and let women run their own, they could be safe, much like they are in certain parts of the country, like Nevada.
I lived in Detroit, I saw first hand how "street walkers" suffered. One of my best friends turned into prostitution and got in bad with a pimp. I get it :( thank you :)
You'd need a quality control division, agents willin gto visit the brothels to make sure the women are.... happy (?). In control?
I don't know, Jakluk, at it's base, prostitution is still pretty unwholesome. Porn Stars now have the opt-out category in their contracts that say they will not fuck 'Ron Jeremy' - because he's a greasy blob of shite.
If Prostitutes had the same clause, they'd lose 70% of their business.
Legalization would increase safety though, and it has always existed illegally.
personally, i hold my personal values and morals very close to me, there are certain things i do not do, for my own personal responsibility to myself and to my children. But i LOVE having that freedom to choose for myself, i would never deny that to another woman. ever. or a man for that matter. :)
I have complicated morals, and have to keep myself in check using societies guidelines. That sounds stupid, but it's not. If I had complete Freedom I would carry a gun and shoot everyone who even slightly insulted me.
We also have to consider the mainstreaming of pornography - how it has affected everythin gfrom pop music to children's toys - and question what the mainstreaming/legalization of prostitution would do to society - human rights, worker's rights, the overall value of dignity.
if everyone was respectful of one another, and showed the same compassion for others as they would want to be shown, you wouldnt need the gun or be insulted. :) but alas, that world doesnt exist, not yet at least.I think we as a society have perverted sex and warped it. but thats another rant for another day! hahaha Great points you make tho, thats for sure :)
This is what bother me about feminists who are against prostitution and pornography. And I have no personal axe to grind here. I haven't been to a prostitute in many years and I'm not in to porn. But for fucks sake, this is not a black and white issue. Be *against* any abuses that might occur during prostitution, but there are countless examples of it not being a coercive situation. Women (and men) should be able to do what they want.
mmm.. The question is my friend ...to say that prostitution is a victimless crime is wrong..Most prostitutes are either drug addicts or slaves to gangs or pimps ..This young lady did not live in the neighborhood I did ..If she had she would speak a different tune ...This is not about power ...How many prostitutes become millionaires ? It however should not be a crime ..It should be delete as a social issue ..
Oh someone should tell this young lady that in countries like even Canada a women can take off her shirt just like a man..and mow the lawn ...times are a changing
I don't see what the potential for becoming a millionaire has to do with it. And in my neighborhood there are prostitutes who make 10X what I did in my best working years.
When she speaks of power, she's talking about power over your own life. That abuses occur in the industry is beyond doubt and needs to be addressed. Not prostitution.
Who are we to judge someone's motives for being a prostitute?
Again, women who are making significant amounts of money (or even significant compared to what the could make per week working 40 or 50 hours) are not doing it by necessity. They choose to make more money (motivation) in prostitution.
And, again, I agree with you for the cases where they are doing it from necessity. They should have other options, and that *is* our business. But if they still choose prostitution over expanded options - who are we to judge?
This to me is not a judgment issue.... It is a social one ...If you had a mother like mine you would know that ...the "significant amounts of money" due to prostitution only leads to a quicker decline when someone is a drug addict
and the children suffer believe me they suffer ...victimless crime not on your life !
once again tho AR, the issue your bringing up....the victims....was not created BY prostitution. It was created by a drug dependency your mother chose to have. However horrible that choice was, it was still her choice. And it was the drugs that created the spiral, and yet some say, drugs should be decriminalized. It is a personal choice one makes to use them or not.
My heart goes out to you, know that. My father was a cocaine addict and an alcoholic for years. I know all to well.
The day people stopped insulting each other, where we could walk any neighbourhood without fear or travel any country without caution - we would have evolved, we would no longer be human, just as to be human is no longer considered to be primate (though it is, the extreme elderly take on a very ape-like appearance - my grandpa especially - don't tell him I said that though). (He's cool and I love him)... See, I can't talk honestly without insulting someone... still unevolved : D
"chose to have" try forced into by a pimp when 17...
really
jakluk4I as I said you are trying to fit the circumstance neatly into this nice little package and my experience says you are wrong ..Though your thinking is correct in that punishing prostitution does nothing..It still does not make it a free from what it is for most in the field and their families an abusive life
My personal position is that should be legalized. Take it out of the hands of the pimps; put it in the hands of the government for stuff like mandatory testing of STDs drug tests etc... That way a woman can practice prostitution if she wants and society is protected from transmissions of STDs and so on.
A little too close to your mic (distorts your voice when you yell). I have to agree with you to a point. If a woman makes a choice to be a prostitute that is her choice and no one else has the right to tell her what she may or may not do with her body. If she is forced into it (pimps preying on runaways etc...) that is another story as we are getting back to controlling another person.
Can I suggest maybe a decent USB mic if the finances allow. Gives you better audio quality ( but don't get a condenser mic, picks up too much background noise)
It's a difficult issue, because as long as there is any type coeersion involved, including dire economic circumstances, then that choice is not exactly made out of free will. I'm not talking about supplementing your college degree, btw... I'm talking truly desperate situations, especially in third world economies.
jak :) well, just to clarify, I'm in favor of legalized prostitution, as it provides far more safeguards for the women involved than in a black market situation. It works quite well in Germany and Holland, although even there, many abuses still exist, including coersion to enter the 'trade'. This became particularly pronounced after the economic collapse of Eastern Europe, which created many economic refugees, including many poor women who were duped by the promise of other employment.
Take away the religious stigma attached to it and the perverted viewpoint that society forces down our throats prostitution boils down to a simple "service industry job". We don't condemn a carpenter for using his skill/experience to build our deck or cabinets. How many waiters or waitresses are put in jail for serving their customers? None. As the great George Carlin said "Why is it illegal to sell something that is perfectly legal to give away?"
Prostitution is not "slavery." Although it's not something I would do, or condone. If that's the case, consider strip club owners pimps as well. America is pimping you all. Case closed
CALICOTV301 10 months ago
@CALICOTV301 best comment i received on this video! thank you! ;)
jakluk4 10 months ago
Boutax
MRAVOX4 1 year ago
@MRAVOX4 Fucktard
jakluk4 1 year ago
@MRAVOX4
Douchebag.
mconn2112 1 year ago
I know it's a little late, I just saw the vid.
Any reason why you don't recognise all the male prostitutes?
sirskeptic 1 year ago
@sirskeptic yeah, because male prostitutes wernt being attacked by this particular vlogger.....who is an extreme feminists, so he claims. only the female prostitutes, as usual, who of course can never think for themselves and always have to be someones victim, unlike free thinking and choosing male prostitutes. if he was pro women, he would support all women and their choices to do what they want, freely with their bodies. so im not buyin the bs.
jakluk4 1 year ago
Germany has had legal prostitution for 60 years and it works out taxes are generated
females may chose to enter the business and leave when they want. Also in the service we always had to use protection on the ladies and it was mandatory.
jobedied 1 year ago
haha so great. I hate the idea that sex is a bad thing. its only ever a good thing no matter how it is done if its consensual on both sides. if not it isn't sex its rape. humans aren't even the only animals that engage in prostitution. its been observed in many other primate social groups. in fact there was a study that taught chimps that if they gave the anthropologist a coin they got food and the females took coins for sex so they could get more food lol. sex is natural and fun never bad.
Pinkcrusader 1 year ago
its a killer subject, really difficult. The girls up the road at night look like wasted drug addicts, they are standing out there at 8am in the morning wasted.
They have benefits in New zealand. The benefits are low, however there seems no need to resort to prostitution
Guevaristas 1 year ago
this is a good video, peoples views on this are similar to that of drugs. after something is criminalised, it never goes away, but just goes underground and becomes exploitative and all the rest of it. but that then is justification to attach more dogma to it
sony8877 2 years ago
and another thing, you do not speak for everyone. There are also many guys working as sex workers as well, do you also speak for them?
Guevaristas 2 years ago
what do you mean as sex worker?
jon2xu 1 year ago
@jon2xu
in the Prostituion Law Reform Act 2003 (NZ) "sex worker" means:
' a person who provides commercial sexual services' (s.4(1))
Guevaristas 1 year ago
'commercial sexual services means sexual services that—
(a) involve physical participation by a person in sexual acts with, and for the gratification of, another person; and
(b) are provided for payment or other reward (irrespective of whether the reward is given to the person providing the services or another person)'
Guevaristas 1 year ago
why should a Marxist to agree with fat pig capitalists making profit from the sex trade?
Surely that's the ultimate form of human exploitation, selling the body.
Feminazi libertarians argue for "rights" in realtion to the human body. Rights are so metaphysical and ellusive, they are "the big mythical beast"
Guevaristas 2 years ago
morals? Are you a moral relativist.
See the mess left up the road every night by the pimps and heroin whores. There are used condoms on the footpaths, and other nasty disgarded material.
It's dangerous up there at night, someone was stabbed, murdered. There are pimps waiting in darkened windowed cars, looking really suspicious.
Parliament decriminalized it in new zealand. The state tax it. That money, maybe some of it (ho hum), is then injected back into the sick society
Guevaristas 2 years ago
THere is also male prostitution, so... I think you debuned him pretty good.
MaikUniversum 2 years ago
This is one way of looking at prostitution I had not thought of before, thank you for the fresh ideas.
gregarganda 2 years ago
Excellent video. Subbed.
The rationale for prohibition makes no sense. They want to save sex workers from victimisation by pimps, so they subject them to additional victimisation by the state. For all the talk about protecting sex workers, prohibition is always ultimately about punishing sex workers for making unpopular choices in their lives.
kanakawase 2 years ago
THANK YOU! you stated that much more eloquently then I did :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
Hell yes I love sex LOL!!! WHOOHOO LOL
I don't punish mine with sex, I punish him with FOOD LOL.
Great video, did OWP do something on this?
vocalbrush 2 years ago
Relationships;
If you are single or if you can have & maintain, a relationship with with a partner who can accept that type of "free will", then sure, I would completely agree with your viewpoint.
I believe many men, including myself, fear a relationship with a woman who cannot commit her sexuality exclusively too her partner, hence the reason most men in particular come off as the Knight in Shining armor, or the Savior.
I as a man associate sex as a matter of sacredness, love & commitment.
NeptunesTrident 2 years ago 8
It is about time spent, who you care for.
If you have no problems bouncing from man to man, making your money, getting your next meal etc, then great, more power too you. But if you want constancy with a partner and shared security, or attentive love and affection, then I would advise against such free willed efforts.
I truly believe morals do play a very important role in ones relationships.
Very heart wrenching to be with someone so free willed, eventually, someone will have had enough.
NeptunesTrident 2 years ago 5
did a bit of research on prostitution after viewing this vid , and the price that the women charge at some brothels are like $1,000 to $40,000 , these prices come from legal brothels were the brothel charges $200 for the room visit , and the brothel only pays $560 Annul for license which is the same type of license as a liquor license , no wonder women take it on as a career ,
jmm1233 2 years ago
and again, like i told utubegirlx, if you have something to say, get the guts up and vlog it. my comment section isnt for trolls who dont have the nerve to put there voice or face out there like i do. im not interested in listening to opinions ofr trolls, sorry.
this is you tube, not you type.
jakluk4 2 years ago
you have so much to say, say it in a vlog! I see you just like to troll around spewing your opinions and offer nothing back to the community. Anything else you would like to add, you can grow some guts, and say it on cam.
metta.
jakluk4 2 years ago
I think you might need to watch a few more amhemsley videos before you try to accuse him of "macho ego male bullshit". He couldn't be any less like that description.
jussts 2 years ago 6
I've no quarrels on your opinions about prostitution in this video, but I disagree with your assertion that morals are "purely subjective".
That morality is only subjective is at the base underlying the destruction of a moral society. What is the basis for laws in society if morality is purely subjective?
If our morals differ, it isn't necessarily so that mine are superior to yours or vice versa, but are they not both our individual attempts at understanding what is moral objectiveness?
eighteenin78 2 years ago
Morals are purely subjective, but we can derive common morals... we can find common ground on what the majority of people find to be moral or immoral. There are at least two morals that are common to all people throughout time: no wanton murder and no lying.
While murder is acceptable in many context, there has rarely (if ever) been a case where it was socially acceptable to commit wanton murder. Even in Nazi Germany there was a "justification" for the holocaust in order to make it acceptable.
ozpowermo 2 years ago
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I agree with you 100%. The idea that prostitutes sell their bodies is completely bogus. They sell a service. They retain full ownership of their bodies. The best thing we could do to improve the conditions of these working women is to legalize it. What really gets my blood going are these high powered dirtbag family values types who we catch doing it themselves.
j0hnwi11iams 2 years ago
couldnt agree more with you!
jakluk4 2 years ago
just a little add in hun: not all prostitution is chosen, child prostitution and the force being used to get some of those girls to work. it's big business for the cartels that run these thing's.
I thought i might add this tiny bit for you.
lllraverslll 2 years ago 3
None of this would exist if prostitution were legal.
j0hnwi11iams 2 years ago
child prositution and slavery exists because the trade is underground, its allowed to. If it were legal, finding these cartels would be alot easier. And sex slaves is not the same as prositutes. Its another whole differnt thing. Sex slaves are illegal thruout the world, for good reason, prostitution is not. I am NOT saying I think prosttution is good, Im saying as a free society, we cant tell people what they can and can not do with their bodies when they are hurting anyone else. Im pro freedom!
jakluk4 2 years ago
Dang Jak, that was some incredibly intense and accurate stuff! Spot on!
I'll be doing a response for sure! I posted some details on your homepage, but I think you know where I'll be going with my vid.
Peace sister.
KazukiSeirei 2 years ago
intense, indeed!
i so look forward to your video, i may have to respond to you and get out some more of this frustration i have! lol
jakluk4 2 years ago
Prostitution should be legal and it should be the right of two consenting adults to engage in whatever they please, I completely agree there.
But there is a root issue which nobody is addressing: there are issues with these behaviors- prostitution, porn, striptease, etc.. Both men and women get emotionally desensitized and instead of restrictions and criminalization, we need proper education to deal with this problem.
How can we be free, yet remain physically and emotionally healthy!?
ozpowermo 2 years ago
spot on. advocating that people be treated like animals b/c they decide to use their own body in a certain way is absurd and barbaric. clearly, the way state sponsored goons treat "offenders" is 1000x more offensive, or would be in a more sane society.
junior00bacon00chee 2 years ago
YESSSSSSSSSS!
i so adore you! lol
jakluk4 2 years ago
out of the videos i've watched i'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that if you film and upload it to the internet you can call it porn and it's perfectly legal lmao!
soulsanctuarymusic1 2 years ago
Oh only you can do that? I see.
Tylorian 2 years ago
how am i judging by saying sex between 2 consenting adults should NOT be illegal, no matter WHY they chose to have sex.
look, i know your trying to stick up for your friend and all, but thats enuf. really. im done. best of luck to you.
jakluk4 2 years ago
Get morality out of prostitution? Um...why would any self respecting woman want to prostitute herself?
Tylorian 2 years ago
self respecting, youre judging. you cant hold people to your own personal standards and beliefs.
consenting sex between adults, whether it be for money, or a dinner and a movie, or a drink, or just because they WANT TO should not be against the law. period.
jakluk4 2 years ago
if they are victims, then why aren't you rallying to repeal the draconian laws that turn them into free slave labor for corporate owned state sanctioned prisons which does the opposite of rehabilitate them? thus leaving a mark on the woman's record that will prevent her from ever getting a good job again?
bottom line : it's not ok to break into someone's home and take away their freedom, because you think what theyre doing is "yucky"
but i guess your moral judgement doesn't extend that far.
onlywhenprovoked 2 years ago
Nothing good has ever come from prostitution. Research x prostitutes, hear their stories, see their tradgedies and self loathing. See how many have died at the hands of their 'clients'. etc. This is one woman's point of view.
Tylorian 2 years ago
i wish u go to hell u are pretty
trilerkiler 2 years ago
sorry, dont believe in hell. just another one of your make believe fantasy bubbles that needs to be popped. by the way, santa isnt real either. *gasp* i know!
jakluk4 2 years ago
Vita!
xoxoxox
jakluk4 2 years ago
I think Hemsley is a socialist - and this sort of thing is typical of them. They think they have the right to violently force others to behave in ways that they find appropriate. (laws) But it's shittier than that, because they mask it all in rhetoric about human freedom and liberation.
EsotericThrone 2 years ago
u realise that socialist is nt a dirty word outside america
CocoMac877 2 years ago 2
And? I didn't use socialist in a derogatory or pejorative sense. I haven't branded it a "dirty" word, and yet you come at me with this cliche line. I pointed out what seems to be a tendency among socialists: they think they have the right to force others into behaving how they want them to behave, and they mask this totalitarian impulse in the rhetoric of humanism. It's shameful.
EsotericThrone 2 years ago
u quite clearly have no understanding of what socialism is and must never have visited a socialist country.
CocoMac877 2 years ago
You quite clearly avoid details and use cliche cop outs. Bye now.
EsotericThrone 2 years ago
u seem to think that socialism is in some way equated with totalitariansim, and yet when u compare the us with the much more socialist european states u soon see that infact we have many more freedoms over here.
we also have most of the happiest countries in the world with the best healthcare.
CocoMac877 2 years ago
Socialism is totalitarianism if it is statist socialism. Voluntary socialism is a wonderful idea, but the socialists may not forcibly oppress others who wish to be capitalists and etc. No one has the right to force others - not you, not me. Socialists deny this and claim the right to violently oppress people who disagree with them. (Capitalists) And NO, you do not have "more freedoms", you have more state-granted ENTITLEMENTS. If you don't know the difference, you don't know what freedom is.
EsotericThrone 2 years ago
what do u think the bill of rights is then? state granted entitlements?
and anyway thats nt our system in the uk. our laws tell us what we cant do, nt what were 'entitled' to do.
and i think ur forgettin that the socialist countries in europe are infact democracies, and the ppl vote for the socialist parties.
CocoMac877 2 years ago
if anyone is unhappy theyre perfectly able to vote for a different party, or move somewhere with more 'freedom' such as the us, bt as i said before far from being unhappy they are most of the happiest, content, highly educated and healthy countries in the world
CocoMac877 2 years ago
youre right :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
Agreed. This way of thinking is judgement. I am not qualified to judge anyone, only myself(and do on a daily basis). "Why you point your finger when someone else is judging you? Couldja be, couldja be, couldja be loved?"
mikwid 2 years ago
Wow...what a bitch.
Macabremauve 2 years ago 2
1:15 Morals may be subjective, however that in no way precludes us from holding you to social standards.
anthonzi 2 years ago 3
Once in a intro to philosophy class the argument was presented that prostitution was wrong because you wouldn't want your sister or other family member to do it.
I said i wouldn't want my brother to clean porta-potties, but someone has to do it.
citizenkong 2 years ago
hahaha
and some WANT to do it. its all about freedom baby!
*sending u huge hugs* :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
As a former sex worker, it IS prostitution. The "power" that a woman can rationalize is a false-power and has "chains" of its own that has its own destruction.
YHWH calls it adultery, and that is not sexist. Yahshua loves prostitutes and desires them to be free from such a life.
I have had friends robbed and raped who DID go to the authorities and detectives that were respectful towards them.
YHWH cares about all of our bodies, even when we choose to abuse them. Shalom.
GOTTshua 2 years ago 5
Some are beyond control and manipulation.
WE may have DNA history of being connected to the animal kingdom but I seek to be much more enlightened than that - I also seek those who wish to be spiritually enlightened than those who wish to support a system of disempowerment/manipulatiion/greed/ego.
Moving on!
OutSideDeMatrix 2 years ago
Holy Shit $100 for a blow job! Man if I was a chick I would be a Cock Sucker!!! LOL!!!
Five Stars!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
FLMAO good one MBV
Bcuz77 2 years ago
Prostitution, like drug abuse may be unsavoury to many, but the ownership of body is not an issue for the state. This is why such things should be legalised, in order to protect the prostitutes (and regulate the drug content in the other example). In Holland it is legal, and high class hookers can earn thousands. Surely the example for the supposedly sophisticated Androcentric culture
JonnyInfinite 2 years ago 2
its okay if te video s a little blurry. i can still masterbate to a blurry picture. i think the
governmetn should legalize drugs and
prostution since theyre the big money
makers. i kid you not by the next day the
economy will rise by 75 percent from
insane business,
KnightTriple6 2 years ago
HAHAHHAHA "if you take out the trash i'll give you a blow job" thats how you get things DONE! lol j/k but really
annielwhite 2 years ago
Ive think you said all there needs to be said in the video. What consenting adults do between them is none of their business but theirs. Simple.
And forced prostitution? Well lots of women are being forced into marriage too. Does that mean marriage should be illegal? Or is it forcing people against their will that's the culprit here?
Northern5tar 2 years ago
Totally agreed, although I don't pick up "prostitutes", I often do pay money to women friends. I need something, sex, they need something, money. In the end (no pun) we're both happy and go about our lives. AHHH I love being single
Peace H
SBYsparky 2 years ago
When you come back......you come back with a bang!!!!
Your points are well made....but I think that amhemsley is really more concerned with the sex slave aspect of it and maybe did not articulate that well................you are correct though, for most of us women.......WE DO NOT NEED TO BE RESCUED and YOU DID NOT RESCUE US.......men however do like to feel that way.......after all.......they are animals too.....
skybirdbird 2 years ago
haha so true! some do like the role of knight! and thats all good, even sexy at times. lol
yeah, maybe he articulated it wrong, and should have stayed on the sex slave trade. that is illegal in every country, as well as it should be, and something we should ALL be fighting. slavery of every kind!
thanks for watchin girlie :D
jakluk4 2 years ago
Etymology of moral... mōrālis, f. mōs, mōr- custom, pl. mōres manners
Custom? Erm... screw that! Customs are merely rules, imposed on people, as a means to control what people do.
Sex is a choice... A choice that only men have to pay for... think this guy is just pissed off that paying is the only way he'll get any? LOL
TheSpartacat 2 years ago
Jesus christ i would not like to meet you down a dark alleyway :-D Fuck that......
Good vlog
SoooooSerious 2 years ago
a woman uses sex as power omfg thats the story of my life hahaha great video
protector1973 2 years ago
I disagree with you on this one Jakluk. I give you ***** anyway, for speaking up. To suggestthe standard streetwalker has the power is simply false. One of my parents was in Probation and she dealt with prostitutes all the time - they are slaves, junkies, a lot of them started before they were legal - Orphanges are recruitment grounds.
High-class call-girls might have power - might have choice... probably do. The majority don't though. Wretched, pitiable women, forced into it by circumstance.
Kiddolinfen09 2 years ago 4
hey Kiddo, i dont think we disagree on this. Women are stripped of their power, because of the laws, and men who control them. I totally agree. IF however, this was decriminalized, and we treated it as a business, and let women run their own, they could be safe, much like they are in certain parts of the country, like Nevada.
I lived in Detroit, I saw first hand how "street walkers" suffered. One of my best friends turned into prostitution and got in bad with a pimp. I get it :( thank you :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
You'd need a quality control division, agents willin gto visit the brothels to make sure the women are.... happy (?). In control?
I don't know, Jakluk, at it's base, prostitution is still pretty unwholesome. Porn Stars now have the opt-out category in their contracts that say they will not fuck 'Ron Jeremy' - because he's a greasy blob of shite.
If Prostitutes had the same clause, they'd lose 70% of their business.
Legalization would increase safety though, and it has always existed illegally.
Kiddolinfen09 2 years ago
there is no stopping it.
its the oldest profession! and with good reason.
personally, i hold my personal values and morals very close to me, there are certain things i do not do, for my own personal responsibility to myself and to my children. But i LOVE having that freedom to choose for myself, i would never deny that to another woman. ever. or a man for that matter. :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
I have complicated morals, and have to keep myself in check using societies guidelines. That sounds stupid, but it's not. If I had complete Freedom I would carry a gun and shoot everyone who even slightly insulted me.
We also have to consider the mainstreaming of pornography - how it has affected everythin gfrom pop music to children's toys - and question what the mainstreaming/legalization of prostitution would do to society - human rights, worker's rights, the overall value of dignity.
Kiddolinfen09 2 years ago 2
if everyone was respectful of one another, and showed the same compassion for others as they would want to be shown, you wouldnt need the gun or be insulted. :) but alas, that world doesnt exist, not yet at least.I think we as a society have perverted sex and warped it. but thats another rant for another day! hahaha Great points you make tho, thats for sure :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
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Kiddolinfen09 2 years ago
This is what bother me about feminists who are against prostitution and pornography. And I have no personal axe to grind here. I haven't been to a prostitute in many years and I'm not in to porn. But for fucks sake, this is not a black and white issue. Be *against* any abuses that might occur during prostitution, but there are countless examples of it not being a coercive situation. Women (and men) should be able to do what they want.
AncientAtheist 2 years ago
mmm.. The question is my friend ...to say that prostitution is a victimless crime is wrong..Most prostitutes are either drug addicts or slaves to gangs or pimps ..This young lady did not live in the neighborhood I did ..If she had she would speak a different tune ...This is not about power ...How many prostitutes become millionaires ? It however should not be a crime ..It should be delete as a social issue ..
AmericanResponses 2 years ago
Oh someone should tell this young lady that in countries like even Canada a women can take off her shirt just like a man..and mow the lawn ...times are a changing
AmericanResponses 2 years ago
great points! and thanks :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
I don't see what the potential for becoming a millionaire has to do with it. And in my neighborhood there are prostitutes who make 10X what I did in my best working years.
When she speaks of power, she's talking about power over your own life. That abuses occur in the industry is beyond doubt and needs to be addressed. Not prostitution.
Who are we to judge someone's motives for being a prostitute?
AncientAtheist 2 years ago
You my friend mistake motive for necessity and how is that different from slave labor ?
AmericanResponses 2 years ago
Again, women who are making significant amounts of money (or even significant compared to what the could make per week working 40 or 50 hours) are not doing it by necessity. They choose to make more money (motivation) in prostitution.
And, again, I agree with you for the cases where they are doing it from necessity. They should have other options, and that *is* our business. But if they still choose prostitution over expanded options - who are we to judge?
AncientAtheist 2 years ago
This to me is not a judgment issue.... It is a social one ...If you had a mother like mine you would know that ...the "significant amounts of money" due to prostitution only leads to a quicker decline when someone is a drug addict
and the children suffer believe me they suffer ...victimless crime not on your life !
AmericanResponses 2 years ago
once again tho AR, the issue your bringing up....the victims....was not created BY prostitution. It was created by a drug dependency your mother chose to have. However horrible that choice was, it was still her choice. And it was the drugs that created the spiral, and yet some say, drugs should be decriminalized. It is a personal choice one makes to use them or not.
My heart goes out to you, know that. My father was a cocaine addict and an alcoholic for years. I know all to well.
jakluk4 2 years ago
The day people stopped insulting each other, where we could walk any neighbourhood without fear or travel any country without caution - we would have evolved, we would no longer be human, just as to be human is no longer considered to be primate (though it is, the extreme elderly take on a very ape-like appearance - my grandpa especially - don't tell him I said that though). (He's cool and I love him)... See, I can't talk honestly without insulting someone... still unevolved : D
Kiddolinfen09 2 years ago
hehe, i still adore u tho kiddo! ;)
jakluk4 2 years ago
: )
Kiddolinfen09 2 years ago
"chose to have" try forced into by a pimp when 17...
really
jakluk4I as I said you are trying to fit the circumstance neatly into this nice little package and my experience says you are wrong ..Though your thinking is correct in that punishing prostitution does nothing..It still does not make it a free from what it is for most in the field and their families an abusive life
AmericanResponses 2 years ago 2
great reply AA, thanks!
jakluk4 2 years ago
You're right about the prostitution thing. Those laws are relics from the past and aren't of any benefit these days.
vention4wh 2 years ago
Great job hon! My body, my life. PERIOD. Are there people out there that take advantage of others, yup, but that isnt what this is about. Great job.
CanadianPatriot1973 2 years ago
thanks girlie, im so glad youre back! :D
xoxox
jakluk4 2 years ago
My personal position is that should be legalized. Take it out of the hands of the pimps; put it in the hands of the government for stuff like mandatory testing of STDs drug tests etc... That way a woman can practice prostitution if she wants and society is protected from transmissions of STDs and so on.
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SuperFlyNB 2 years ago 2
Yep.
55ella2007k 2 years ago
A little too close to your mic (distorts your voice when you yell). I have to agree with you to a point. If a woman makes a choice to be a prostitute that is her choice and no one else has the right to tell her what she may or may not do with her body. If she is forced into it (pimps preying on runaways etc...) that is another story as we are getting back to controlling another person.
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SuperFlyNB 2 years ago 3
exactly! couldn't agree more, and thanks for stoppin by to share your thoughts with me. :)
and thanks, i turned down the mic, new cam, but my laptop is greatly lagging. i have issues! lol
jakluk4 2 years ago
Can I suggest maybe a decent USB mic if the finances allow. Gives you better audio quality ( but don't get a condenser mic, picks up too much background noise)
SuperFlyNB 2 years ago
LMAO i just bought this one, it was $100!
dont make me cry! hahahahahaa
I think it was set up to high. i hope! LMAO
xoxox
jakluk4 2 years ago
Yes... I agree.
It's a difficult issue, because as long as there is any type coeersion involved, including dire economic circumstances, then that choice is not exactly made out of free will. I'm not talking about supplementing your college degree, btw... I'm talking truly desperate situations, especially in third world economies.
55ella2007k 2 years ago
agreed!
and your comment, is the main one i was lookin for Ella! hahaha
yeah, youre that rock star to me! hehe
xoxox
jakluk4 2 years ago
jak :) well, just to clarify, I'm in favor of legalized prostitution, as it provides far more safeguards for the women involved than in a black market situation. It works quite well in Germany and Holland, although even there, many abuses still exist, including coersion to enter the 'trade'. This became particularly pronounced after the economic collapse of Eastern Europe, which created many economic refugees, including many poor women who were duped by the promise of other employment.
55ella2007k 2 years ago
I agree 100%
TheBaByG 2 years ago
Take away the religious stigma attached to it and the perverted viewpoint that society forces down our throats prostitution boils down to a simple "service industry job". We don't condemn a carpenter for using his skill/experience to build our deck or cabinets. How many waiters or waitresses are put in jail for serving their customers? None. As the great George Carlin said "Why is it illegal to sell something that is perfectly legal to give away?"
Peace my friend
radicaldanzero 2 years ago 5
most excellent comment rad! :)
jakluk4 2 years ago
This is what you get with most communists. They turn out to be srs moralfgs.
abortabraham 2 years ago