its because bmws are built with quality. pulled a bm engine apart a while back, had approx 300,000ks on the clock and had spent its last 2 years in a race car. this engine got beat around alot, and bearly spent a weekend with out hitting the rev limiter and still had the marks on the bores from the origanal honing.
@bob00099bob00099 youd be hard pressed to find a motor that dosnt. as of the last decade, nothing to do with car manufacturesm to do with steel/iron/aluminium advancments. and to be honest, im a mechanic and bmw are garbage, if you want a bmw. get your self a 325 e36 i think. 6 cylinder, built the way that peop;le think modern ones are.. all performance bm's are made in a different factory.. that says it all
@nickernosher there it goes, im a mechanic, i work cars daily aswell, and al bmws ive worked on have been easy and cheap. its a sterio type that has somehow started and isnt true at all. i have a 1989 e30 with a 1996 e36 328i engine in it. i love my bmws. but nothing costs much at all. on average the parts i buy for the bmw are cheaper than the subaru i had. bmws are easy to work on, try it one day and youll realise the storys arnt true.
@bob00099bob00099 i have a 02 318 at the moment for a vacum pump. nice car to look at and drive but its not a good car at all, oil leaks everywhere, creamy cap and dipstick, generally the way that all of them are when i get them in. i get where your coming from tho, i love my car too and i dont really consider the cost of parts and labour is free, but you have to consider the labour costs and 200 euro rocker gaskets for average Jo Soap. expensive to own and maintain
I believe that this is an awesome engine, and that oil did a great job but my only issue with this video is that they did not specify whether or not they added in climate changes such as -30F to 120F as if it was driven from Canada to Arizona, cold starts, high and low altitudes, etc etc. All this drastically changes the characteristics of the internal engine components durability.
they don't consider the weather wear and conditions that a normal car goes through...and all the dust and junk that ends up in the engine...all of this must be taken into consideration.
This car is current in UK, our company has borrowed it from Exxon Mobil for a show in London and I drove this exact car to the show from Southampton to London, it is still going very very well.
This ISNT very hard to beleive. The engine was surrounded by professional BMW engineers who replaced oil, plugs, wires, valve lash, etc. and followed the maint manual to the T. How many people ACTUALLY do this to their cars ??? NONE!! How many people put high grade fuel in their cars and let their engines warm up EVERY morning before driving off? NONE! I bet most cars would last 3 times longer if less women owned cars. :) JK about the women thing.
@moos209 It's not about idling to warm the engine up anymore, it's about idling for 30 seconds and then driving very lightly until the transmission and engine are completely warmed up.
Thats crazy over a billion revolutions for the camshaft.... My bmw oil was gold lke that till I started redlining it all the time :), it didn't burn a drop of oil with normal driving but the full throttle high revs is a different story. I like castrols maintaining maximum horspower test!
I wish a car would last that long, reality is that they don't. Cars see all kinda of weather patterns and jack rabbit driving patterns. What will kill a car sooner or later in the million mile test is wind resistance because the transmission and engine have to battle loading and dirty conditions. The dyno has no wind resistance or dirty conditions. You can change the oil but dirt will still get in from gasoline and air filter leaking. Interesting test but not typical.
The reason this car lasted so long has little to do with oil or engine you could of used Dino oil and get almost same results. This engine didn't see to many cold starts and that is what kills our motors but you can't leave your car idle while you sleep. Elec generators last forever for this reason
Gardener diesels would go multi million if the service schedule was followed properly,to bad they shut down,there was a truck which had run since the company was founded which hit 10 million.Its not just the oil, its the servicing and quality engine build help as well.Wonder if an american car could do similar.
I always change engine oils and filters 50k or 60k and use Mobil1 or Castrol only and VW is not ultimate like BMW but my VW always good shape^^ omg I want BMW too
no tiene nada que ver la vida real con un banco de pruebas estatico, no dura tantos kms lo motores porke nunca estan en optimas condiciones de funcionamiento el motor, de manera ke lo ke aparece en el reportaje es mentira ya ke no se usa en la vida real
This test would have had more validity if they had simply employed real world driving rather than on a dyno wheel. What they should have done is hired a team of people to drive the car day and night all over the country so the car could see real world conditions. What they did was more equivalent to a laboratory environment than a real-world simulation.
@evilaviator You stupid f*ck, simulating something on a dyno is NOT the same thing as real stop and go traffic. Go take an elementary physics class d*ck and then come talk to me.
they also have to drive in dirt cold and hot weather condition different loads and stresses, well i use mobil 1 too never had a problem so far but doesnt look like a fair test.
These is why i only use mobil 1 motor oil. I've had five cars in my life and i only used mobil 1 motor oil and I have never had any engine e problem with any of them.
I have used nothing but Mobi1 in my cars since 1982. My GMC van had 140,000 miles on it when I sold it and it ran like new and never needed oil between oil changes. My current car is a 1990 Infinity M30. It only has 110,000 miles on it but it still runs like new and never needs oil between changes.
@bmwfan4lyfe It's an m20 engine, look at the distinctive intake manifold. I have personally replaced the timing belt on this exact engine in this same car. If I were you, I'd do a little more research or find a new job.
Why didn't they use a Alfa or a Peugeot, or something like that? Of course the BMW lasts for ever without breaking a sweat, ze Germans built it. Tht's what they do best.
These people of course did NOTHING about designing and building 2 seater cars that 300Km to 1 liter of fuel - but they pissed away some 70 tons of fuel... or 70,000 liters of fuel.
As to why they couldn't have stripped the engines from the average taxi fleet, using their normal crap oil....
When I want the product of a scam artist company that is responsible for killing more than a million people in Iraq, I will put up with their bullshit.
id like to see a ford go a million miles without problems, of course they would use a bmw they have some of the best made engines, try a kia and see how far they go
@MrClarkbar88 kia are making a surprising name for themselves, along with hyundai these days. but, with that said, im also going to say bmw makes a hell of a motor. i would like to see them run this test on other motors though....
@MrEhamburglar vw also recommends castrol oil but an insider working in germany recommended mobil 1 because castrols are not really synthetic.... he showed me sludge deposits in an 30000mile engine using castrol....
@crestlinersuperhawk what are you talking about? the budget semi synthetic oils of today are far higher grade than the best oils of the 80's were. Let alone the top tier fully synthetic oils you can buy
Fine road dust that penetrates the air filter is a major cause of engine wear, this test is not conclusive. Also they didn't compare with non-synthetic oil
when engine really gets waered down witch people rarely know is when a car sits for some time and thats were most harm is actully done to a engine very true learned that from a 16 year master machanic so if ur going to buy a car that has been sitting for some time big no no!
so if you take care of your car to the "T" of the owners manual you car will last 4ever,,no matter what it is if you do good maitnence like they tell you to when you buy your car it will "never" die,,it will cost you a arm and a leg and your car would be in the shop more then you drive it but it will work,,,,lol
Im very convinced, ill buy from now on Mobil 1 oil, but i dont get it, what about aggressive driving one day and or maybe overloaded driving the next day? cold and hot conditions? miss shift? overrev? this test sould have been done in REAL life conditions. But still amazing how they did it 4 years long only to do a test
@elemineseslapolla Miss shifting is not part of real life driving conditions. That's reserved for people who don't know how to drive. Like another person said, the most critical time for an engine is when it's started cold. if you really want to take care of your car you should use good oil and drive very gently while warming up.
@haydondres totally agree with you. I use mobile 1 only in all my vehicles but this test is not valid. Also, in the beginning of the video they are putting oil into a m42 engine (318i) and at the end they are pulling a m20? (325i)
@haydondres Those chassis dynamometers do apply load, as if the car was actually running, but you are right about the cold starts... Despite that, remarkable results, and we can learn from this video that a car with high mileage used mostly on the road most certainly has a better engine than a car with low mileage but daily city use..
@haydondres cold starting does nothing to modern cars. heat expands the metal, thus when engine is hot, the pistons/everything is closer together and grinds more. cold starts used to be bad because they didnt have todays multi-viscosity oils (oil wouldnt get into places it needed to be until warm)
@haydondres Very true, the same principal of motorway cars. If a normal car has 100,000 miles plus, it's considered high mileage, however a motorway car with 150,000 will be in better overall and mechanical condition.
However, it is still a testament to BMW's build quality, for that to be pull 35MPH to 95MPH for 1,000,000 miles, and be in that condition. :D
@haydondres So stopping the vehicle to change the oil doesnt count as a cold start? And they put extreme load on it by putting it through various speed loads. How is this not a valid test? Im sorry, but 1,000,000 miles on ANY car is impressive even under supposively "no load".
off course mercedes benz too , in my country build the best cars inthe world ,MERCEDES BENZ , PORSCHE, BMW , AUDI , VOLKSWAGEN, OPEL , thats mean leyend, history,and respect!!! am pride about all them
Ok so why does this car have piss poor rating in consumer reports. Don't get me wrong I love the 3 series - dad had identical car but 320i (yes 6 cyl 2L)) and my first car was a 520i (4cyl 2L) - grew up in South Africa. Wish his 320i had gone to a million miles!!!
What about temperature extremes? Did they stop the engine and then start it up again in cold weather? I'm sure this would of changed the results, not that these engines can't go running up to 200k.
@seapeddler - A pre-luber doesn't address all the shortcomings of a dead dinosaur/petroleum oil. What is the Castrol Syntec test? Syntec is a Group III oil anyway, which is merely a dead dinosaur/petroleum oil subjected to more refining.
@HiTechOilCo A preluber will at least lube the crank bearings,cam lobes, bucket/shim , rockerarm/shaft, etc,. assemblies before start-up. An oil cooler will keep a dino oil from shearing. So, Mobil, Syntec, Amsoil, Ceratec, etc. are uselss if the engine has poor valve geometry issues. I just read an article about the definition of synthetics. It's the amt. of PAO's that is the issue. There is no evidence that Castrol Syntec is inferior to Mobil 1.
@seapeddler - A true synthetic oil clings to metal engine parts much better than a dead dinosaur oil is able to. A pre-luber doesn't increase the drain interval of the dead dinosaur oil, it doesn't increase its high or low temperature protection, it doesn't increase fuel economy or reduce emissions, it doesn't reduce sludge build up. Whereas a good performing synthetic oil achieves all these things and at far lower cost and hassle than a pre-luber. Again, what is the Castrol Syntec test?
@seapeddler - Group III oils, refined from dead dinosaur oil, have no PAO's in them.
Group IV synthetic basestock oils come from PAO's, which in my 25 year experienced opinion outperform any Group III, refined from dead dinosaur oil, on the planet.
@HiTechOilCo I have no experience, as I can't really afford synthetic oils. But if you look at the sponsorship decal on the Thrust SSC ( land speed record holder) it says 'Castrol'. How do I know that Mobil1 isn't also used in prisons to facilitate drug searches? Then there is Shaeffers Oil, Amsoil, Redline, Royal Purple, etc.
I am convinced that they all work together and the only objective is to make money. In my mind, ceramics are immune to temps created in a combustion engine, period.
@seapeddler - Top performing synthetic oils save money. It's the dead dinosaur oils that are so costly. Whatever race car has whatever decal down the side of it is merely advertising, nothing more. None of the companies you mentioned work together at all. Indeed, it is a very competitive industry. I would think the bottom line objective of any company is to make money, or else they'd go out of business.
@seapeddler - Yes, the reality is that AMSOIL synthetic motor oils can save a motorist a lot of money vs dead dinosaur oils or lower performing synthetics. AMSOIL saves me over $200 a year ++.
@HiTechOilCo I've tried Syntec and found that the engine ran easier. I think I'll try Mobil as well. It really makes no difference. The Ceratec treatment sounds like the real clincher. Bonding ceramics to friction surfaces is brilliant. Neither Mobil nor Syntec can outperfom Ceratec. (LubriMoly) Just get 2 old frying pans, put the elements on high. In one put Syntec, the other Mobil 1. See which burns away quicker. That saves a lot of wordiness and sabre rattling.
@seapeddler - Any Group III petroleum based oil will outperform a Group II petroleum based oil. That's to be expected. Mobil is one of the older, more experienced synthetic oil producers and in my opinion is a much better oil than Syntec. Indeed, Mobil manufacturers synthetic oils they recommend out to 15,000 miles. Syntec merely recommend standard drain intervals. So as with any products, there are substantial differences amongst differing brands of oils too. Castrol is also a product of....
@HiTechOilCo And the recent Icelandic volcanic eruption was sponsored by Mobil?Again, real proof is needed to convince me that Mobil is better than Syntec, or vice versa. Sabotage is one method. Why doesn't BMW do the test with Syntec as well?It is just hype. How many people drive BMW's and how many people actually care? There is a YouTUbe video showing the pin and falex test. Shampoo did better than Mobil 1 in preventing the rig from seizing.
@HiTechOilCo I'm not arguing with you. If you belive Mobil 1 is better fine. If you think Syntec is inferior, will that stop people from buying it? Who knows. If you have a weak spark and other engine problems, sludge will form, period.
No one really cares what oil they use, they just need an operable vehicle. Only yuppies get involved with 'virgin-stock'synthetic Mobil oils. I believe that Ceratec should be tested by BMW as well. But removing friction would upset Mobil1 ?
@JacanaProductions - It pressurizes the oil system in an engine when the ignition key is turned on. This helps reduce wear in the engine. For my own vehicles, I simply use AMSOIL synthetic motor oils and I don't have to bother with all the hassle and expense of a pre-luber.
@JacanaProductions You can make your own pre-luber with an old Ford/Chev oil pump. Just plumb it in the oil galleries and spin it with a drill. Might cost $50.00 or so.
@HiTechOilCo It was just an idea. Some engines require prelubing, especially in extreme minus zero weather. A makeshift preluber is far cheaper than an @ $500.00 one. Anyway it was just a typical YouTube comment.
@seapeddler - Simply using a top performing synthetic oil like AMSOIL, with a pour point down to -60 deg. F. makes using a pre-luber an un-needed expense. :)
@HiTechOilCo The beauty of a preluber is that it slams oil (Amsoil, etc. ) into all bearings, rocker arms, lifters, cam bearings etc,. 'before' the combustion load is placed on the reciprocating assembly. I did get to the Amsoil website. That bypass filter is a great idea. But it costs $190.00. Why can't a simple remote filter holder do the same trick?
@seapeddler - With a dead dinosaur oil, I agree, a pre-luber is a good idea, but with a top performing synthetic, I really feel it is unnecessary. $190 for 100,000 + oil change intervals saves a lot of money, not to mention improved fuel economy, greatly reduced engine wear, lower emissions, etc. Regardless, I can line you up with lower prices than that. Yes, there is a remote filter adapter as well. :)
This car could definitely have a shot at 7 digits, as long as the owner is willing to keep dumping money into it. They can go to 300k without being too terribly bad.
They may not be better but there passion for designing engines is amazing. Then it's a lot of what culture you have, your boss don't yell at you when something goes wrong or the work is delayed in Germany and Nordic countries. They pep you to work harder, that makes you want to do a better work witch results in better work. Yell at someone has never solved anything.
@Steeeewie - Might be more about the *oil* lubricating/protecting the engine than the engine itself. I somehow doubt it could have achieved this with petroleum oil.
a better test would be to start the car cold, run the engine for 50 miles under varying load, let the fluids get cold, run another 50 miles, and so forth, do the same maintenance, and do this for maybe 300k and do it to two cars side by side, the other with just standard maintenance, and see what happens.
This has nothing to do with real driving. There are pretty much no cold starts, where all of the wear effectively happens. This engine was working under perfect conditions the whole time. This is not how real cars are driven. A car driven every day will be started cold probably twice a day (once in the morning and once after work) here, the oil is cold only when they change it.
Also, the different speeds were probably better for the engine than just cruising, since it varies the engine load.
1970 mercedes forgot witch type was used as a taxi car i went 2.5 miles and it was still running mercedes gave the guy brand new car for his so they can put it in the museum
I have an 1987 E30 325i Baur TC auto with 57900 on the clock. Mine has more engine wear than this I'm sure. Think I'm gonna use Mobil 1 next service. Surely though, this car would never have had a start from cold during the 4 years. Isn't this when the most engine wear/damage occurs?
Where's the full write up? Can't tell if they cherry picked results without the full report.
Other that it's an impressive video. More oil companies should provide a little more in the way of objective measurement... and make it easier to get this kind of info. Most companies won't provide more than the basic info about their oils.
@Xcelplus - You are 100% correct. Most oil companies provide precious little technical data regarding their oils, instead relying on assnine tv commercials, rebates for baseball caps and racer Rick endorsements to sell their products. Pretty sad isn't it? AMSOIL is one company that stands heads and shoulders above the rest, providing reams of technical and test data on their products. Check out my channel for more information. Enjoy. :)
@borohockey13 - With being in the synthetic oil industry for the past 25+ years and the test data I have seen, in my opinion, Mobil 1 is a far better product than RP. RP's 5W-30 and 10W-30 is still stuck with the very old API SL rating, from way back in 2004 when it was replaced with the newer and better API SM rating. Mobil 1 oils are SM rated. Heck, even low priced WalMart oil is SM rated! Not very impressive for RP.
it doesnt simulate an actual 1,000,000 miles on the road like snow, extreme heat, extreme cold, rain, in wherever they are NJ it's not like Los Angelas where it's all dandy. where's the salt to melt the ice from the road on the suspension and undercarriage....
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1. Listen to 0:35 (Engine heat) 4 years no cooling?
2.If engine was running day and night how they changed parts 2:21
3.Broken piston holder 5:20 - Good piston holder 6:11
Cool story bro..
thesancezzz 4 days ago
1. Listen to 0:35 (Engine heat) 4 years no cooling?
2.If engine was running day and night how they changed parts 2:21
3.Broken piston holder 5:20 - Good piston holder 6:11
Cool
Story
Bro
thesancezzz 4 days ago
I would like to see his with a Dodge Neon, or Ford Escort.
ShawnTRD 6 days ago
its because bmws are built with quality. pulled a bm engine apart a while back, had approx 300,000ks on the clock and had spent its last 2 years in a race car. this engine got beat around alot, and bearly spent a weekend with out hitting the rev limiter and still had the marks on the bores from the origanal honing.
bob00099bob00099 1 week ago
@bob00099bob00099 youd be hard pressed to find a motor that dosnt. as of the last decade, nothing to do with car manufacturesm to do with steel/iron/aluminium advancments. and to be honest, im a mechanic and bmw are garbage, if you want a bmw. get your self a 325 e36 i think. 6 cylinder, built the way that peop;le think modern ones are.. all performance bm's are made in a different factory.. that says it all
nickernosher 1 week ago
@nickernosher there it goes, im a mechanic, i work cars daily aswell, and al bmws ive worked on have been easy and cheap. its a sterio type that has somehow started and isnt true at all. i have a 1989 e30 with a 1996 e36 328i engine in it. i love my bmws. but nothing costs much at all. on average the parts i buy for the bmw are cheaper than the subaru i had. bmws are easy to work on, try it one day and youll realise the storys arnt true.
bob00099bob00099 2 days ago
@bob00099bob00099 i have a 02 318 at the moment for a vacum pump. nice car to look at and drive but its not a good car at all, oil leaks everywhere, creamy cap and dipstick, generally the way that all of them are when i get them in. i get where your coming from tho, i love my car too and i dont really consider the cost of parts and labour is free, but you have to consider the labour costs and 200 euro rocker gaskets for average Jo Soap. expensive to own and maintain
nickernosher 2 days ago
its the BMW, not the Mobil, so do bother putting this in your citroen, peugeot, or even renault and expect it to run like magic!!
Oh, and if you own a merc..... get a life!!
mrzkhan1 2 weeks ago
BMW engines make this possible, not mobile
TheDUBMANE 4 weeks ago
e30 runs over 1000000 miles widouth oil !
malek10 1 month ago
I believe that this is an awesome engine, and that oil did a great job but my only issue with this video is that they did not specify whether or not they added in climate changes such as -30F to 120F as if it was driven from Canada to Arizona, cold starts, high and low altitudes, etc etc. All this drastically changes the characteristics of the internal engine components durability.
MrDieselfumes 1 month ago 2
I wonder if Gordon used synthetic motor oil. He has about 2.8 million on his car now.
RSpi007 1 month ago
Have they ever heard about cold starts? Very common in real life...
94meriks 2 months ago 7
Synthetic oil for a synthetic test.
I bet you'll get the same result with any oil that meets the same api standard.
U3erpru7ser 2 months ago
5:35 theres something on the cylinder wall
05fordgtx1 2 months ago
i wonder how much GAS they wasted ???
Mrcubano11 2 months ago 2
I wonder if this engine was fully blueprinted and balanced.
This is a pretty useless test. They should have just done the test with a race car!
They say 1 racing mile is equivalent to 1000 street miles, in wear and tear. This would have saved them alot of time!
its0a0me 2 months ago
they don't consider the weather wear and conditions that a normal car goes through...and all the dust and junk that ends up in the engine...all of this must be taken into consideration.
yangboi88 2 months ago
I would like see this with 10% Ethanol gas. I bet story would not be posted.
kylemlm 2 months ago 2
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2azfeWeb 2 months ago
This is dumb because they only stop the car to do maintenance and it's always warm. Circumstances wouldn't be the same with daily use.
chris000089 3 months ago
This car is current in UK, our company has borrowed it from Exxon Mobil for a show in London and I drove this exact car to the show from Southampton to London, it is still going very very well.
kennylyuda 3 months ago
The car underwent little to no load, no wind resistance and it's on a dyne doing 40-85mph pulls. Can't be compared to real world driving.
towlie911 3 months ago 5
This ISNT very hard to beleive. The engine was surrounded by professional BMW engineers who replaced oil, plugs, wires, valve lash, etc. and followed the maint manual to the T. How many people ACTUALLY do this to their cars ??? NONE!! How many people put high grade fuel in their cars and let their engines warm up EVERY morning before driving off? NONE! I bet most cars would last 3 times longer if less women owned cars. :) JK about the women thing.
moos209 3 months ago 2
@moos209 It's not about idling to warm the engine up anymore, it's about idling for 30 seconds and then driving very lightly until the transmission and engine are completely warmed up.
chris000089 3 months ago 3
ok ok can i have this bmw ? yes i well try to put more 100,000
weld3z 3 months ago
Thats crazy over a billion revolutions for the camshaft.... My bmw oil was gold lke that till I started redlining it all the time :), it didn't burn a drop of oil with normal driving but the full throttle high revs is a different story. I like castrols maintaining maximum horspower test!
007e38 3 months ago
As I recall, Mobil 1's for sale ad for this car claimed pristine condition, 0 miles!, after they were done with the test.
BMWM5 3 months ago
They started an M30 test the same day, but it's still going
Snipez4664 3 months ago
I wish a car would last that long, reality is that they don't. Cars see all kinda of weather patterns and jack rabbit driving patterns. What will kill a car sooner or later in the million mile test is wind resistance because the transmission and engine have to battle loading and dirty conditions. The dyno has no wind resistance or dirty conditions. You can change the oil but dirt will still get in from gasoline and air filter leaking. Interesting test but not typical.
egn83b 4 months ago
WTF seriously what??? one million miles?? WTF
dms0087 4 months ago
The reason this car lasted so long has little to do with oil or engine you could of used Dino oil and get almost same results. This engine didn't see to many cold starts and that is what kills our motors but you can't leave your car idle while you sleep. Elec generators last forever for this reason
lehrjet31 4 months ago
@bmwfan4lyfe
Nope. M20's have belts. Just like most Hondas.
rsvp9146 4 months ago
Kinda find it hard to believe they didn't have a broken head bolt or a bad water pump on an M20.
rsvp9146 4 months ago
Gardener diesels would go multi million if the service schedule was followed properly,to bad they shut down,there was a truck which had run since the company was founded which hit 10 million.Its not just the oil, its the servicing and quality engine build help as well.Wonder if an american car could do similar.
MrDeepwoodtickles 4 months ago
I always change engine oils and filters 50k or 60k and use Mobil1 or Castrol only and VW is not ultimate like BMW but my VW always good shape^^ omg I want BMW too
dms0087 4 months ago
my car is VW not BMW but I care my car like BMW owners do because it's same german so it's almost same car VW or BMW
dms0087 4 months ago
it's about the BMW engine not engine oils but good cars need good oil change professional
dms0087 4 months ago
imeagine if they have take a toyota tercel a tercel can resist to like 100million miles
TheKasoy90 5 months ago
no tiene nada que ver la vida real con un banco de pruebas estatico, no dura tantos kms lo motores porke nunca estan en optimas condiciones de funcionamiento el motor, de manera ke lo ke aparece en el reportaje es mentira ya ke no se usa en la vida real
Tanketa81 5 months ago
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Notice they don't use an American car lol.
etchells29 5 months ago
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Breakdancingsquirrel 5 months ago
@KobraSahin Japanese beats all that Eurotrash
racefactory900 5 months ago
it's not the oil, it's not the motor, is the driver
4mulas 6 months ago
This test would have had more validity if they had simply employed real world driving rather than on a dyno wheel. What they should have done is hired a team of people to drive the car day and night all over the country so the car could see real world conditions. What they did was more equivalent to a laboratory environment than a real-world simulation.
GentlemanHES 6 months ago
@GentlemanHES listen to the video again you idiot. They simulated stop and go severe driving conditions on the dyno.
evilaviator 6 months ago
@evilaviator You stupid f*ck, simulating something on a dyno is NOT the same thing as real stop and go traffic. Go take an elementary physics class d*ck and then come talk to me.
GentlemanHES 6 months ago
they also have to drive in dirt cold and hot weather condition different loads and stresses, well i use mobil 1 too never had a problem so far but doesnt look like a fair test.
ashwinwalvekar 6 months ago
These is why i only use mobil 1 motor oil. I've had five cars in my life and i only used mobil 1 motor oil and I have never had any engine e problem with any of them.
bustfer07 6 months ago
I've used Castrol GTX in my vehicles.
DroppedGT 6 months ago
I have used nothing but Mobi1 in my cars since 1982. My GMC van had 140,000 miles on it when I sold it and it ran like new and never needed oil between oil changes. My current car is a 1990 Infinity M30. It only has 110,000 miles on it but it still runs like new and never needs oil between changes.
Oh ya, I only change the oil once a year at best.
1971SuperLead 6 months ago
Not a valid test because they pull an engine out of a RED bmw instead of the WHITE engine in the video lol
DroppedGT 6 months ago
@DroppedGT Those are red fender covers on the white car.
Sehre 6 months ago
@DroppedGT it was a white car but they put on red fender cover so they wouldn't scratch the car, just take a closer at it.
bustfer07 6 months ago
@bmwfan4lyfe Oh and not all hondas had timing chains either.
saturnv3 7 months ago
@bmwfan4lyfe It's an m20 engine, look at the distinctive intake manifold. I have personally replaced the timing belt on this exact engine in this same car. If I were you, I'd do a little more research or find a new job.
saturnv3 7 months ago
@bmwfan4lyfe the m20 has a timing belt, thanks for playing.
saturnv3 7 months ago
didnt the timing belt snap? lols
bhamdriver 7 months ago
@bhamdriver it was changed every 50k
saturnv3 7 months ago
Yay BMW! im more impressed with the BMW aspect than the Mobil one lol
theslickrick1991 7 months ago
Why didn't they use a Alfa or a Peugeot, or something like that? Of course the BMW lasts for ever without breaking a sweat, ze Germans built it. Tht's what they do best.
alxcsb 7 months ago
These people of course did NOTHING about designing and building 2 seater cars that 300Km to 1 liter of fuel - but they pissed away some 70 tons of fuel... or 70,000 liters of fuel.
As to why they couldn't have stripped the engines from the average taxi fleet, using their normal crap oil....
When I want the product of a scam artist company that is responsible for killing more than a million people in Iraq, I will put up with their bullshit.
callmeshane303 8 months ago
it's the engine, not the mobile oil...
frogvillage 8 months ago 88
@frogvillage totally true! :)
Aleksej79ns 5 months ago
@frogvillage yes, agreed. but proper maintenance and quality parts has got to be a contributing factor here
OctaneOracle 3 weeks ago
id like to see a ford go a million miles without problems, of course they would use a bmw they have some of the best made engines, try a kia and see how far they go
MrClarkbar88 9 months ago
@MrClarkbar88 kia are making a surprising name for themselves, along with hyundai these days. but, with that said, im also going to say bmw makes a hell of a motor. i would like to see them run this test on other motors though....
techblitz 8 months ago
@MrClarkbar88 a daily driven ford reached a million miles
saturnv3 7 months ago
Sigh, give that car to me for a couple months, I'll break your engine, and your suspension and transmission while I'm at it. Hahaha I love beaters.
purgatory13z 9 months ago
Try to test oil with LADA (from russian production) it could be a EXTREMELY challenge!
thepricylon 9 months ago
This clip is more a testament to modern combustion engine engineering than anything else.
maersklandro 9 months ago 14
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If there is no car next to this test with regular oil then this test says nothing.
Snyd3rs 9 months ago
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Snyd3rs 9 months ago
This is all about BMW quality not the Mobile oil!
Why they didn't pick a US made car that wastes engine at less than 100,000 miles?
Then the Mobile results will be little different, if they can even complete the test...
toly78 9 months ago
I wish they would have done this side-by-side with conventional.
sheabones0 9 months ago
this is a commercial... of course i believe them!
Ruokanga 10 months ago
BMW recommends Castrol oil
MrEhamburglar 10 months ago
@MrEhamburglar vw also recommends castrol oil but an insider working in germany recommended mobil 1 because castrols are not really synthetic.... he showed me sludge deposits in an 30000mile engine using castrol....
lordoftheriffs79 9 months ago
So, can you tell me why there is no a million mille warranty ? huh
michaelovitch 10 months ago
@crestlinersuperhawk what are you talking about? the budget semi synthetic oils of today are far higher grade than the best oils of the 80's were. Let alone the top tier fully synthetic oils you can buy
spanky8477 10 months ago
If only the REAL world was this easy on a car.
JZZ31 11 months ago
Fine road dust that penetrates the air filter is a major cause of engine wear, this test is not conclusive. Also they didn't compare with non-synthetic oil
videotimesss1 11 months ago
E30s are the BEST BMWs ever made! I also own 2 of them, for more than 6 xears, they never let me down!
Jay350iV12 11 months ago
Just put some allsups oil in it and add a quart about every 10,000. Be aight
ACumminsCan 1 year ago
What year is this from?
chowminglives 1 year ago
Royal purple next?
66KORN66 1 year ago
when engine really gets waered down witch people rarely know is when a car sits for some time and thats were most harm is actully done to a engine very true learned that from a 16 year master machanic so if ur going to buy a car that has been sitting for some time big no no!
viperking102 1 year ago
Top quality oil, top quality fuel, top quality Machine.
Lets try now with top quality oil only?
desmodronic916 1 year ago
mobil 1 5w50 or castrol edge 10w60?
losteden 1 year ago
so if you take care of your car to the "T" of the owners manual you car will last 4ever,,no matter what it is if you do good maitnence like they tell you to when you buy your car it will "never" die,,it will cost you a arm and a leg and your car would be in the shop more then you drive it but it will work,,,,lol
CREAMFILLEDANISH85 1 year ago
i would like to seen them do a side by side test with quaker state 30 weight lawn mower oil
surfaceplaner 1 year ago
Okay ,
Now lets do some real world testing?
guri131 1 year ago
haydondres is wrong: the dyno simulates tough 'stop and go' driving with full load on the car.
chrismd00 1 year ago
Only Motul!
mariusz76a 1 year ago
Im very convinced, ill buy from now on Mobil 1 oil, but i dont get it, what about aggressive driving one day and or maybe overloaded driving the next day? cold and hot conditions? miss shift? overrev? this test sould have been done in REAL life conditions. But still amazing how they did it 4 years long only to do a test
elemineseslapolla 1 year ago
@elemineseslapolla Miss shifting is not part of real life driving conditions. That's reserved for people who don't know how to drive. Like another person said, the most critical time for an engine is when it's started cold. if you really want to take care of your car you should use good oil and drive very gently while warming up.
lolhehe420 1 year ago
@lolhehe420 If i had a choice to read the last comment before i die, it would be this one.
elemineseslapolla 1 year ago
not a particularly valid test. The engine is under little load, and they did very few cold starts, which is when most wear takes place.
haydondres 1 year ago 45
@haydondres valid test. enough for me
MELOMEOUT 11 months ago
@haydondres totally agree with you. I use mobile 1 only in all my vehicles but this test is not valid.
maximapitko 11 months ago
@haydondres totally agree with you. I use mobile 1 only in all my vehicles but this test is not valid. Also, in the beginning of the video they are putting oil into a m42 engine (318i) and at the end they are pulling a m20? (325i)
maximapitko 11 months ago
@haydondres Those chassis dynamometers do apply load, as if the car was actually running, but you are right about the cold starts... Despite that, remarkable results, and we can learn from this video that a car with high mileage used mostly on the road most certainly has a better engine than a car with low mileage but daily city use..
RodrigoWest81 9 months ago
@haydondres cold starting does nothing to modern cars. heat expands the metal, thus when engine is hot, the pistons/everything is closer together and grinds more. cold starts used to be bad because they didnt have todays multi-viscosity oils (oil wouldnt get into places it needed to be until warm)
janjaso 9 months ago
@haydondres Yes but only at the camshaft where oil is momentarily scarce. Other than that the difference has proven to be negligible.
racefactory900 5 months ago
@haydondres Very true, the same principal of motorway cars. If a normal car has 100,000 miles plus, it's considered high mileage, however a motorway car with 150,000 will be in better overall and mechanical condition.
However, it is still a testament to BMW's build quality, for that to be pull 35MPH to 95MPH for 1,000,000 miles, and be in that condition. :D
Spac8 5 months ago
@haydondres So stopping the vehicle to change the oil doesnt count as a cold start? And they put extreme load on it by putting it through various speed loads. How is this not a valid test? Im sorry, but 1,000,000 miles on ANY car is impressive even under supposively "no load".
OrangeSliceEclipse 5 months ago
@haydondres they should have done some close to red line or high rpm test once a day at least
rgrafton 4 months ago
me as good back ground about automotive , that test doesn't have any relation to reality driving !!
in that test any oil brand could gives smiler result or maybe the same !!
our concern is about how oil transmit the heat gradely y to all parts of engine since start to stop m
also work under hot environments and the most important how it will preform under hot investment's ,
we need to see how oil stay flexible , after thousands of getting cold then getting hot under many weather investment's
3131561 1 year ago
i think they did the test on a bmw cause their afraid of american cars dodge would probably explode at 100 000 miles
kfl21 1 year ago
off course mercedes benz too , in my country build the best cars inthe world ,MERCEDES BENZ , PORSCHE, BMW , AUDI , VOLKSWAGEN, OPEL , thats mean leyend, history,and respect!!! am pride about all them
rangerovertruck 1 year ago
very nice video, the best oil engine for the best car in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BMW
rangerovertruck 1 year ago
@rangerovertruck Best car? Nah, but i will agree on the oil. Mercedes is the brand who can take it all.
2URBO2 1 year ago
@rangerovertruck Search for mobil 1 million Mercedes.
2URBO2 1 year ago
Ok so why does this car have piss poor rating in consumer reports. Don't get me wrong I love the 3 series - dad had identical car but 320i (yes 6 cyl 2L)) and my first car was a 520i (4cyl 2L) - grew up in South Africa. Wish his 320i had gone to a million miles!!!
JacanaProductions 1 year ago
What about temperature extremes? Did they stop the engine and then start it up again in cold weather? I'm sure this would of changed the results, not that these engines can't go running up to 200k.
JacanaProductions 1 year ago
@JacanaProductions - Temperature extremes are where synthetic oils really shine, so it wouldn't have changed the results.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
With a pre-luber, one could probably hit 1 000 000 mi. with normal oil.
Can Mobil pass the Castrol Syntec test?
seapeddler 1 year ago
@seapeddler - A pre-luber doesn't address all the shortcomings of a dead dinosaur/petroleum oil. What is the Castrol Syntec test? Syntec is a Group III oil anyway, which is merely a dead dinosaur/petroleum oil subjected to more refining.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo A preluber will at least lube the crank bearings,cam lobes, bucket/shim , rockerarm/shaft, etc,. assemblies before start-up. An oil cooler will keep a dino oil from shearing. So, Mobil, Syntec, Amsoil, Ceratec, etc. are uselss if the engine has poor valve geometry issues. I just read an article about the definition of synthetics. It's the amt. of PAO's that is the issue. There is no evidence that Castrol Syntec is inferior to Mobil 1.
seapeddler 1 year ago
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HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
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@seapeddler - A true synthetic oil clings to metal engine parts much better than a dead dinosaur oil is able to. A pre-luber doesn't increase the drain interval of the dead dinosaur oil, it doesn't increase its high or low temperature protection, it doesn't increase fuel economy or reduce emissions, it doesn't reduce sludge build up. Whereas a good performing synthetic oil achieves all these things and at far lower cost and hassle than a pre-luber. Again, what is the Castrol Syntec test?
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago 3
@seapeddler - Group III oils, refined from dead dinosaur oil, have no PAO's in them.
Group IV synthetic basestock oils come from PAO's, which in my 25 year experienced opinion outperform any Group III, refined from dead dinosaur oil, on the planet.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo I have no experience, as I can't really afford synthetic oils. But if you look at the sponsorship decal on the Thrust SSC ( land speed record holder) it says 'Castrol'. How do I know that Mobil1 isn't also used in prisons to facilitate drug searches? Then there is Shaeffers Oil, Amsoil, Redline, Royal Purple, etc.
I am convinced that they all work together and the only objective is to make money. In my mind, ceramics are immune to temps created in a combustion engine, period.
seapeddler 1 year ago
@seapeddler - Top performing synthetic oils save money. It's the dead dinosaur oils that are so costly. Whatever race car has whatever decal down the side of it is merely advertising, nothing more. None of the companies you mentioned work together at all. Indeed, it is a very competitive industry. I would think the bottom line objective of any company is to make money, or else they'd go out of business.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo I accept this final submission. Obviously, what you are saying has a 'bearing' on reality. Ha, ha, ...
seapeddler 1 year ago
@seapeddler - Yes, the reality is that AMSOIL synthetic motor oils can save a motorist a lot of money vs dead dinosaur oils or lower performing synthetics. AMSOIL saves me over $200 a year ++.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo Yep.
seapeddler 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo I've tried Syntec and found that the engine ran easier. I think I'll try Mobil as well. It really makes no difference. The Ceratec treatment sounds like the real clincher. Bonding ceramics to friction surfaces is brilliant. Neither Mobil nor Syntec can outperfom Ceratec. (LubriMoly) Just get 2 old frying pans, put the elements on high. In one put Syntec, the other Mobil 1. See which burns away quicker. That saves a lot of wordiness and sabre rattling.
seapeddler 1 year ago
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HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@seapeddler - Any Group III petroleum based oil will outperform a Group II petroleum based oil. That's to be expected. Mobil is one of the older, more experienced synthetic oil producers and in my opinion is a much better oil than Syntec. Indeed, Mobil manufacturers synthetic oils they recommend out to 15,000 miles. Syntec merely recommend standard drain intervals. So as with any products, there are substantial differences amongst differing brands of oils too. Castrol is also a product of....
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@seapeddler ...BP, or British Petroleum, the company now infamous for the massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo And the recent Icelandic volcanic eruption was sponsored by Mobil?Again, real proof is needed to convince me that Mobil is better than Syntec, or vice versa. Sabotage is one method. Why doesn't BMW do the test with Syntec as well?It is just hype. How many people drive BMW's and how many people actually care? There is a YouTUbe video showing the pin and falex test. Shampoo did better than Mobil 1 in preventing the rig from seizing.
seapeddler 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo I'm not arguing with you. If you belive Mobil 1 is better fine. If you think Syntec is inferior, will that stop people from buying it? Who knows. If you have a weak spark and other engine problems, sludge will form, period.
No one really cares what oil they use, they just need an operable vehicle. Only yuppies get involved with 'virgin-stock'synthetic Mobil oils. I believe that Ceratec should be tested by BMW as well. But removing friction would upset Mobil1 ?
seapeddler 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo what's a pre-luber? can someone explain how they work?
JacanaProductions 1 year ago
@JacanaProductions - It pressurizes the oil system in an engine when the ignition key is turned on. This helps reduce wear in the engine. For my own vehicles, I simply use AMSOIL synthetic motor oils and I don't have to bother with all the hassle and expense of a pre-luber.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@JacanaProductions You can make your own pre-luber with an old Ford/Chev oil pump. Just plumb it in the oil galleries and spin it with a drill. Might cost $50.00 or so.
seapeddler 1 year ago
@seapeddler - Are you suggesting having to open the hood of a vehicle to engage an electric drill to pressurize an oil pump before starting the car?
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo It was just an idea. Some engines require prelubing, especially in extreme minus zero weather. A makeshift preluber is far cheaper than an @ $500.00 one. Anyway it was just a typical YouTube comment.
seapeddler 1 year ago
@seapeddler - Simply using a top performing synthetic oil like AMSOIL, with a pour point down to -60 deg. F. makes using a pre-luber an un-needed expense. :)
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo The beauty of a preluber is that it slams oil (Amsoil, etc. ) into all bearings, rocker arms, lifters, cam bearings etc,. 'before' the combustion load is placed on the reciprocating assembly. I did get to the Amsoil website. That bypass filter is a great idea. But it costs $190.00. Why can't a simple remote filter holder do the same trick?
seapeddler 1 year ago
@seapeddler - With a dead dinosaur oil, I agree, a pre-luber is a good idea, but with a top performing synthetic, I really feel it is unnecessary. $190 for 100,000 + oil change intervals saves a lot of money, not to mention improved fuel economy, greatly reduced engine wear, lower emissions, etc. Regardless, I can line you up with lower prices than that. Yes, there is a remote filter adapter as well. :)
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
This car could definitely have a shot at 7 digits, as long as the owner is willing to keep dumping money into it. They can go to 300k without being too terribly bad.
shred5 1 year ago
its because they used a bmw. never could have happened with a ford maybe a 3800 gm though
PresidentOfTheBlack 1 year ago
Just another video that proves german engenering to be the best. Good Video
Pacino13211 1 year ago
@Pacino13211 - So people born in Germany are somehow predisposed to be better engineers than people born elsewhere?
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo damn stright =D
ubuntunoobz 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo
They may not be better but there passion for designing engines is amazing. Then it's a lot of what culture you have, your boss don't yell at you when something goes wrong or the work is delayed in Germany and Nordic countries. They pep you to work harder, that makes you want to do a better work witch results in better work. Yell at someone has never solved anything.
Iceeeen 1 year ago
@HiTechOilCo Well... after the WWII they did reborn from the ashes, didn't they? For many years, they have been the largest economy in Europe!
gentil79 1 year ago
This is AMAZING! This is one more conclusion that BMW can build engines like no other!
Steeeewie 1 year ago
@Steeeewie - Might be more about the *oil* lubricating/protecting the engine than the engine itself. I somehow doubt it could have achieved this with petroleum oil.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
Well, the car dosen't carry no weigh at all, no intense traffic.... come on .....
viperstormway 1 year ago
a better test would be to start the car cold, run the engine for 50 miles under varying load, let the fluids get cold, run another 50 miles, and so forth, do the same maintenance, and do this for maybe 300k and do it to two cars side by side, the other with just standard maintenance, and see what happens.
advertisehere 1 year ago
This has nothing to do with real driving. There are pretty much no cold starts, where all of the wear effectively happens. This engine was working under perfect conditions the whole time. This is not how real cars are driven. A car driven every day will be started cold probably twice a day (once in the morning and once after work) here, the oil is cold only when they change it.
Also, the different speeds were probably better for the engine than just cruising, since it varies the engine load.
advertisehere 1 year ago
1970 mercedes forgot witch type was used as a taxi car i went 2.5 miles and it was still running mercedes gave the guy brand new car for his so they can put it in the museum
nawzy202 1 year ago
I have an 1987 E30 325i Baur TC auto with 57900 on the clock. Mine has more engine wear than this I'm sure. Think I'm gonna use Mobil 1 next service. Surely though, this car would never have had a start from cold during the 4 years. Isn't this when the most engine wear/damage occurs?
octopusride 1 year ago
Where's the full write up? Can't tell if they cherry picked results without the full report.
Other that it's an impressive video. More oil companies should provide a little more in the way of objective measurement... and make it easier to get this kind of info. Most companies won't provide more than the basic info about their oils.
Xcelplus 1 year ago
@Xcelplus - You are 100% correct. Most oil companies provide precious little technical data regarding their oils, instead relying on assnine tv commercials, rebates for baseball caps and racer Rick endorsements to sell their products. Pretty sad isn't it? AMSOIL is one company that stands heads and shoulders above the rest, providing reams of technical and test data on their products. Check out my channel for more information. Enjoy. :)
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
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@HiTechOilCo why is the whole internet full of amsoil marketing people...STOP IT!
biertier99 1 year ago
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HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
@biertier99 Sharing information should never be stopped. That's what the Internet is for after all. Take care and have a super day! :)
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago 11
More proud of the engine than oil lol
BlackaCidic 1 year ago
Mobil 1 is great but definitely not the best the best is Royal purple by far.
borohockey13 1 year ago
@borohockey13 - With being in the synthetic oil industry for the past 25+ years and the test data I have seen, in my opinion, Mobil 1 is a far better product than RP. RP's 5W-30 and 10W-30 is still stuck with the very old API SL rating, from way back in 2004 when it was replaced with the newer and better API SM rating. Mobil 1 oils are SM rated. Heck, even low priced WalMart oil is SM rated! Not very impressive for RP.
HiTechOilCo 1 year ago
BMW reccomends Castrol...hahah
iamthemandan 1 year ago
@iamthemandan LOL
jet62095 1 year ago
it doesnt simulate an actual 1,000,000 miles on the road like snow, extreme heat, extreme cold, rain, in wherever they are NJ it's not like Los Angelas where it's all dandy. where's the salt to melt the ice from the road on the suspension and undercarriage....
iamthemandan 1 year ago
@iamthemandan In their defense, It was a test on the engine, not the rest of the vehicle. They probably replaced the trans in this car 3 times.
jet62095 1 year ago
Mobil 1 full synthetic is the best I have ever used in my BMW 540i. I am at 292,000 miles!
PresidentOfTheBlack 1 year ago