Life is unfair. Matt Damon has a high academic IQ, a Common sense that most politicians claim to have but don't, good looking even when bald to a point where many women think he is some sort of a sex symbol, and he is rich. Like seriously, what is he God's favourite? :(
bottom line this world needs teachers and education. it makes me sick to think some people are trying to fight them at every turn. its not the teachers fault the system is messed up, at least most of them are trying to make us smarter and hopefully pull our society's collective conscious out of the gutter.
Nobody would say that shitty teachers deserve to keep their jobs. But the problem with accountability in teaching is that its much more difficult to measure performance than in other professions. In a for-profit venture, profit is a clear goal that can be easily measured. In teaching the goal is to "educate" the students, which is difficult to define and nearly impossible to quantify. But in general, teachers don't deserved to be vilified as lazy money grabbers. Its ridiculous.
@the26thhour I wonder if his point is based on his mom being a teacher. If his mom was a bartender, he probably would be advocating higher pay for bartenders because he's a mommas boy. I bet his kids go to private school.
Damon is a tool- He never answered the question. "You think Job insecurity is what makes me work hard?" What a D-Bag. No Matty you work "hard" for the "love" of acting and would continue to do so if you rec'd 'shitty" pay
Damon is a criminal in that he's a lying bitch. He is a water carrier for the gangster unions. Most Hollywood actors are union fags and everyone that wants to do good in the movies sucks the union knob and Damon is one of the unions cronies. His mother is a union teacher and all in bed with the union gangsters. She's a union boss knob polisher for sure. A big government communist slut is the reality.
@TheJonnyEnglish Yes, a problem w/ most unions.They r 1 of many problems w/ this country, they & Hollywood/Fagwood elites r communist dirt bags that sell lying progressive BS. They & the teachers union a have done much 2 dumb down r country's public. They r the 1s that have a problem with the rest of us. Its the unions who have been the selfish, greedy dividers & promoters of envy & hate.They r the true enemy amongst us.
1 less liberal parasitic fool=s several freed tax payers!
@ISUCN Haha for fucks sakes son, go back to school and get an actual education, then come back and discuss this with me. oh, and LURN 2 tIpE like a SMRT peRson fUckin DERP.
@TheJonnyEnglish You must suck the union dickheads for pay, huh? Go to europe and feel welcome being amongst lame do nothing for themselves ass Os, loser parasites.
teachers need job security because it is not in the interest of the government to educate the lower class, inner city people. So anytime that the public want someone to blame on the failing education system, it's the teachers who become the scapegoats.
@weasel66666: Oh, and it's "doesn't" which is the contracted form of does not or better known as a contraction. It is NOT dosent, which is the way you choose to spell it.
@weasel66666: Wow! You really are just stupid. It would be "Oh, fuck off grammar Nazi!" You can't spell and your grammar( not gramer) is appalling. Please use spell check or go back to school. It's interesting that you are commenting on this thread. You NEED these teachers more than any single individual on here. You'll never move ahead in life with linguistic skills the likes of yours.
Some of these people commenting are such hypocrites. You claim to know it all, yet you hate on teachers. Well, where did you learn everything if not from them?
the one thing that disturbs me about his rant is his assumption, make that proclamation that all teachers are like educational deities, sort of like Mother Teresas of the teaching profession, beyond reproach .
they should have asked him what he thinks about some of those teachers that had sex with their students, wait that was sex education
@clownprince88 exactly where does he state in his "rant" that all teachers are like educational deities? There are idiots in every profession... bosses sleeping with underage hostesses, drunk pilots, policemen who abuse their spouse, the CEO who grabs asses because he can... on and on and on. No where is there not a small collective of dip-shits who can't manage to follow the rules. How many teachers are there in the US? What percentage of that HUGE number fits into the dip shit category?
matt damon before he was famous used to work small jobs an save all the little money he made just to go down to newyork and act for parts..THATS loving your passion so i agree with matt 100% an this reporter is blek
@weasel66666: Firstly it's " intrinsically paternalistic" and although I may disagree with him, his usage is perectly correct. Secondly, take a look at your grammar before criticizing Matt-it's "an expand" not "a expand." Were you not taught that "an" preceeds any noun or verb beginning with a vowel? Think about it.
@raylewisjoeflacco They should be paying us more than 50k for fucking up our kids education. 12 years of lousy service to our offspring and they expect more? Well so do we!
@dorksayswhat While teachers do a job for the public, remember there's a lot of teachers and we value teachers so much that it's a job that a lot of people choose to. So part of the pay problem is supply and demand. I respect and love teachers, and even another problem is the attitude of kids nowadays. They'd rather play COD MW3 or find out what Lady Gaga wore than learning about Calculus. A lot of kids come out of our schools without knowing how to read or write properly!
@jteruel671 When you work for the PUBIC it must be a higher standard than the private. But of course that not the way it is. I am sure a public (government) hamburger would suck too.
@dorksayswhat That's why people go to McDonald's for a Big Mac not the US Government. The government has shown it cant be the be-all-end-all solution for everything. Education included.
matt damon & his lack of comprehension for big words. Is he gonna cry when he says 'maybe you're a shitty cameraman?' He needs to go back to that 'how do you like them apples,' stupid little 4th grae comebacks
Intrinsically paternalistic: belonging to a thing by it's very nature which is that of an overbearing fatherly figure. So, in essence, he's saying that Mba thinkers and Ed policy admin are of this type: that their nature is like unto an overbearing father, all at once both coddling and demanding. Somewhat of a generalization, I feel. However, to each his own.
I've had bad teachers, give me a break. It is precisely BECAUSE being a teacher is an affirmative profession that gives people who do it a feeling of satisfaction that teachers get a relatively low salary. Talk to the guy who works in the trash compactor about how much he "loves" his job. Teacher's have a low salary because of all the jobs, it's one of the most pleasant, and there is therefore a large supply of people willing to do it. So stop bloviating. This reporter was dumb, but meh.
Haha - awesome. "I don't know, maybe you're a shitty cameraman..." - I know that's not the best part of the video, but for some reason it's my favorite. It's just so punchy. I like punchy.
Matt Damon is as smart as his Team America World Police doll. Please, Hollywood, don't use your power to sway people toward liberalism. Tenure is security for lazy teachers to spew liberalism. I've seen it. I've been in classes where tenured professors play recordings of their lectures and never show up. Tenure is why we're creeping toward last in the world.
@spankula123 "Tenure is why we're creeping toward last in the world"..... actually, no. And we aren't "creeping toward last in the world". If you're referring to test scores in our nation averaging lower than other nations, that's happening because we're the only ones that teach everyone, including kids that don't get great test scores. Other nations don't teach the kids that get bad test scores i.e. inner city schools.
@trapnextone That's where we differ. I don't judge people based on their skin color or socio-economic status. People in the inner cities have just as much potential as anywhere else, except the teachers are trapped in unions that support Obama (do you see the conflict of interest?). All kids can get great test scores, unless you believe some are "lesser" than others, which you do. Where do they get great scores? Connecticut? Portland? Shame on you, you simple racist.
@spankula123 Take a step back from your emotions, because I'm not making any kind of stereotypes. All I said is that we teach all the kids in our nation, not just our most gifted students like China or other countries. We have a wider approach, and in my opinion a better one, but it's not perfect yet, because everyone in our country doesn't in fact get an equal education. What I said has nothing to do with students potential, it has to do with statistics.
@trapnextone "like China or other countries" and "statistics" - you're betraying yourself as a trolling know-nothing, like Matt Damon, actually. What statistics? What countries? It's not perfect yet... so dump more money into it, right? Don't you agree that when you've dumped all the money there is into something you should see results, or stop dumping? China would never hire most of our teachers, not even for their "ungifted" students. They are results based, we're Obama's re-election based.
@spankula123 Do you think it's teachers who have decided that they can no longer give h.s. students a 0% on things? That there is no deadline on how late work can be turned in? Did you know there are principals out there who've never actually taught a class? It's too bad we can't wipe out administrators and put teachers in those positions. I think we'd finally see that improvement!
@coloradoredheadful Every principal I know of started as a teacher. I don't think that will solve the problem. We need accountability to taxpayers, not unions who give Obama money.
'it's this intrinsically paternalistic view' - I have instant respect for people who know how to express themselves, why? because I'm studying to be a literature teacher...
@BethyMog15 You certainly need some education in the realm of "literature," or grammar Bethy. What this Hollywood hare-brain Damon said doesn't even make sense. Teachers having tenure and unions is "paternalistic"--and yet Damon seems to be on their side. Is he for or against paternalism? Most private sector workers have little or no protections, let alone tenure, unions, pansions--in other words, no "paternalism."
People are losing their ability to think critically. It is truly scary.
wrote, "If you're experiencing overwhealm, then you're not on your true/ highest path." Speaks for actors in general, don't ya think? It's not worth knowing anything about Hollywood, cause it's not worth knowing. And if they're all so content over there in Hollywood fulfiling their passion, why have they been meddling in subliminal advertising/messages since the 50s? Why do they give obsolete information in movies, if you know so much? Why did they call that movie "Inception?" You'll never know
Tenure is not guaranteed job security, it simply provides us with due process and protection from unfair principals who would rather hire a coach than keep a good teacher, or one that lacks backbone and fires a teacher for failing johnny who's mom sits on the school board. There are ways to remove bad teachers under responsible administrators. I wish people would direct their focus on them rather than us.
Although education reform is needed, the "incentive-based" model will surely be the demise of our eduction system. Look at what the "incentive-based" test scores have done to our eduction system.
Part of me thinks that we should not even give the over-simplifiers the time of day because they are obfuscating the arguments. But on the other hand, they have the simple talking point. Sure, it is misleading, but it's also easier for people to swallow. Overcoming that will be a win for education!
Back when I was at high school a young teacher styled himself as a great ‘mentor’ to the kids, though many of us felt him to be profoundly full of **it.
He always preached “Just do it! Live every day as if it was your last!” Unfortunately this slightly subnormal kid in our class interpreted this to mean he should brutally rape a girl he liked- it was his ‘last day’, so why not?
The kid did a few months in juvenile detention, the girl’s family moved away & the teacher was disgraced & fired.
lol matt damon denying job security. The real question is; if actors got paid $11 an hour, would they really love doing what they do? If given the many limiting conditions of average ordinary every day jobs, like competing with the traffic twice a day just to get to and from work, just to name one? F NO! Matt Damon back peddles out of a good, hard-hitting, honest question, he calls in the Saints (by mentioning teachers) and all you dicks fall for it! Fing actors!
@brettg82au You realize the vast majority of actors don't get paid at all. For every Matt Damon there is there are literally hundreds of striving artists who are forced to take up second jobs to pay for the choice to pursue their passion. For every multimillion dollar blockbuster film there are hundreds of independent/student films were the payment is minimal or volunteer. You obviously no nothing about the film industry as it's one of the most difficult to survive in.
There's the exact same number of "movie stars" in the 30s, as there are today, same with any other decade. Hm they've stuck to the same business schematic from the get go. Why's that? Cuz there's only so much idiots who'd go see a movie because it's main attraction is a "movie star," (again depriving the script of being the star). Corruption, keeping their organsation seem like a rare gem and keeping you suckers in check is what gives them an inside out industry and control over their investment
"You obviously no nothing about the film industry as it's one of the most difficult to survive in."
If they're "artists," then why don't they reinvent the wheel? (Artists are supposed to be independant thinkers.) Why do they put themselves in shackles and chains, join the ques, follow the same rules, hints and tips that have gotten everyone else who's failed as far as they'll ever go? If they were artists, they'd disregard the rules, make up their own, think for themselves and be original
@OpiBrown do you think any of them would even still be in that line if there wasn't that fame, or multi-million-dollar incentive? If it's their "passion," why did Mickey Rourke tell some chick to "ditch her boyfriend & jump in the car with him ," one night? Why do all movie stars hit the drugs? What was George Clooney doing at a bar trying to fight fabio, if he's fulfiling his passion? Why are all these movie stars in rehab clinics, lives filled with stress & overload? A spiritual guru once
@cupofjoewithjen I agree 100% that education is important, and it's ridiculous that daily defense contracts have been in the hundreds of millions to billions since at least 1994. Our taxes have been misdirected
@cupofjoewithjen There are better & easier ways to earn a living than cleaning honeybuckets but people still do it. Some teachers are inspired, some just needed a gig.
What about all those teachers in Atlanta who abetted their students in a cheating scandal? I don't think we should assume that ALL teachers are good just because they are teachers. And yes, contrary to what Mr. Damon seems to think, tenure creates a situation in which teachers have less incentive to not be lazy. If you KNOW you won't get fired, why put in more effort than is necessary? Besides.. you won't get fired.. no matter what!
@1988jrouse That's why he responded "maybe your a shitty camera man. There will always be those 10% of shitty professionals. He was speaking on behalf of good teachers. The BEST teachers are the ones who don't care about money and incentives. GOOD teachers teach because they WANT to teach.
I'm currently an English/Education student. I think that what he said could not be any closer to the truth! First of all, the cameraman did seem pretty "shitty." All of my instructors, classmates, and past teachers have all told me the same thing, "You don't go into teaching for the salary." Teaching usually does make a decent salary, pay the bills, etc. but in order to have the standard of living many people THINK they have they usually have some other source of income coming in.
I teach and I can tell you that over 50% of teachers more or less tune out at my school after they get tenure....He's giving us a Hollywood esque version of what he thinks teaching is about....she's absolutely correct to make that point.
At nearly $7000 per year school taxes with another nearly 2% earned income,the goose that layed the golden egg is about tapped out. You can name call all night instead of engaging in lucid debate, but if you had to accept the merit raises (like frozen or decreasing salaries), health benefits and pension plans of the non public woker, you would lay down and cry like a baby. America is broke and your DB pension - can we talk about that next - are in deep trouble.
@TheFitConnection: Your nothing more than a bully. Having to prove your intelligence by demeaning others only serves to prove one thing: You are incredibly insecure. I'm sorry that my success and intelligence threaten you. Attacking individuals only serves to vindicate that which you accuse others of. You are nothing more than a troglodyte. Grow up!!!!
@Chopin1974l Anyway, my parents were public school teachers and believe me they made a very decent living. Any teacher that bitches about how abused they are drives me crazy. The dude was trying to defend tenure, but couldn't. He wouldn't (couldn't) answer simple questions. If it seemed like I was screwing with him it's because he had it coming. Most teachers will be the first to not give a rats when others are being laid off as long as they get theirs. Then they bellyache.
@TheFitConnection: You really ought to read my previous posts before you start accusing me. You'll discover that I'm very much in favor of what Damon said and of support for teachers. I'm also very aware of my slip of the thumb. I and O lay directly beside each other. It was nothing more than a typo.
@kittenagogo28: What of the individuals in society who do not have children and still have to pay taxes that help to subsidize schools within their borders? I'm one of said individuals. I don't like paying for kids I don't have, but my taxes are going to support a dangerously rickety Medicare program so why not education as well;-)
@Chopin1974l This has to be the all-time stupid statement of the day. Republicans are so fucking retarded they're like little children you have to lead around by the hand. They have absolutely no sense of the big picture. Yes, Chopin, I'd like to live in a society populated by neanderthals. So, when I go to whatever store I'm going to, the salesperson can only grunt and point. Or, the doctor can only grunt and stab. You're simply a pathetic idiot. Really, beyond hope.
@Chopin1974l What did you get all over me for? :) The guy couldn't answer why wealthy people send their kids to private schools and was being a whiney little victimized teacher. Poor him. I agree totally! I don't have kids either and completely resent paying for other people to send their kids to our inefficient, ineffective public schools. I am more libertarian than anything else too. Sorry I called you a moonbat it's just they dig the Latin cause they think it covers up what they don't know.
@Chopin1974l Actually, you'd be IN favor of that, not ON favor of it. Republicans and non-schooling, you go together like peas and carrots. Again, another moron who should have listened to that underpaid teacher.
Using the phrase "intrinsically paternalistic" in this context is like calling Balls and Strikes at a child's T-Ball game - it makes NO sense. Matt, just smile and leave debate concerning workplace incentives to someone...ANYONE that has run an actual business or has to manage resources and detemine yearly compensation for people that make in a YEAR, what you make in a DAY.
Yeah, I'd be dead against performance based pay if all I had to do to get a pay rise is not get fired for 12 months.
American education does have problems. I agree with Damon, it is a complex issue. ... but one of those issues is that good teachers don't get rewarded for good performance.
Even if I'm passionate about a job, if I get rewarded the same for putting in 10% effort as if I'd put in 100%, who really thinks I'm going to put in 100% for any extended period? That's just fantasy.
This guy clearly has no clue - Teachers, on average, make more than $31 per hours which is more than the majority of Americans (somewhere around the 75th percentile) - since most of us make ""shitty" salaries, we most all be HIGHLY motiviated to work hard according to Matt...or at least 75% of us anyway - those that make more probably could care less like Matt - guy's a genius....
Matt, next, let's talk about Health Benefits, Defined Benefit pensions and summers off.
@ThePopcorn2323 Actually retard, you're forgetting all of the hours at home grading tests, preparing lesson plans, etc. Again, another moron with absolutely no clue. Teachers don't race out the door when the school bell rings, there's alot of unpaid work after school and at home. Start reading and learn about what you're talking about before you open your retarded mouth. A teacher's actual hourly rate is MUCH lower when you factor in the non-paid, but necessary hours.
Typical name calling from another knownothing. Are you kidding me? Listen pal, if you want to compare hours, let's bring it on. To survice in a 2011 corporate ENV with NO CONTRACT and high forced turnover (like 13% layoffs with 1.5% merits), you have to be onsite at ALL hours, wHether it is a typical 7 - 5 or night shift to cover PROD cycles or a weekend after month-end,and this include when it snows 20" for 52 weeks per year less minimal PTO. STFU..
@ThePopcorn2323 Teachers are trained professionals who spend years at university to get their degree, so yes they do get paid more than the 'average' Joe. BUT if you calculated the hourly rate based on the number of hours we work, it's not that great. I get to school at about 8am and leave at about 7pm Mon through Fri. On average my lunch break is about 10 mins; my contract says it's 40 minutes unpaid. I do several hours of work at home each night and on weekends. And summers off?! Ha! I wish!
@katelouise88 - to start with, I don't intend any of this to attack you or your profession, I would just like to hear your response to this: that it is precisely BECAUSE teachers "love to teach" that they get paid less. How many jobs can you think of that provide the kind of affirmative satisfaction that teaching does? Lot's of people are willing to teach, leading to a large supply of potential teachers. It's only natural that the wage suffers some from that. Why is that wrong?
@Archaebob Yes, lots of people are willing to teach but until they enter the profession they do not realise the amount of work that they do not get paid for. There are lots of people who enter the teaching profession (a large supply) but end up leaving before 10 years of service because of the crappy conditions. So saying that they "love" what they do is why they get paid less doesn't really correlate with the large numbers of teachers leaving the profession due to bad conditions/pay.
The girl asking questions is an idiot. Most people don't understand the dedication and hours put into teaching...Damon is 100% correct. The cameraman just proves that there is a major education problem in the United States...what a retard.
This whole thing is ridiculous. Fox News gets morons up in arms about teachers, who are paid like shit. Meanwhile Fox News defends the financial asshats who tanked the entire economy and defend their million dollar bonuses. You teabagger idiots should have been paying attention to those underpaid teachers you couldn't listen to because you were too busy scratching your asses and sniffing the result...
The only thing wrong with education is the majority of shitty parents out there right now. I work around alot of teachers - people who really care about what they do. They try to get the parents to work with their children and the parents just simply aren't interested. Parents - if you don't have the time to raise your children right, don't fucking have children.
Do the conservative retards not realize he just owned that reporter? They put this up as a 'bad defense of teachers'. I'm shocked right now. The tea baggers don't even realize when they've been owned on national tv. They're that fucking stupid. It's unbelievable!
@Fizzypop1211 Fizzypop - yes, I do know what teabagging is. It's what you were doing instead of listening in class to the underpaid teacher who was killing themselves trying to drill some sense into your retarded skull. That same skull that you only saw fit to use as a testical pad.
I am not only a teacher, but a form tutor, who does meetings with students and their parents in my form. We discuss marks, things they've done well, things they can do to improve, and set short and long term goals relevant to their career choices.
Furthermore, we also have parents evenings, which we are not paid for. In fact that is a legal part of our contract.
And many of us give up our lunch, break times and afterschools to help students, provide tutorials, and also to run clubs
Obviously my point is not to incite pity for teachers but to emphasize that a lot of people have misconceptions about what we do. I'm not complaining. I do it because I like teaching and because I'm happy to be able to make a difference.
But too many people consider teaching to not even be a professional career and think we do nothing. It's incredibly offensive and I'm just sick of people making comments without ever knowing facts.
@PolarBearAja You are enthusing about the top 5%, interested, bothered, capable, inspirational, forever remembered in a life changing way. The other end is not occupied by 5% but I suggest 35% who just shouldn't be there. They cant direct food into their mouths, how can they direct the young. The middle ranges from mediocre to very good. Thats not all "ok", or is it all "very good" - its a spread.
A degree doesn't make you a good teacher. In fact, some "unqualified" assistants are far better.
Furthermore does babysitting involve making sure the kid is confident in their skills and helping them to do well on their exams so that they can get into college? Does it involve guiding kids into which career they might like based on their interests and talents in certain subjects?
Does it involve helping them to build relationships with others?
This public screwel system sucks. With all the Unions and budget haggling this thing should be scrapped for a privatized system.
Why does everyone think that these nimrods have the answer?
Would you hire them to work in your company?
Do you think they have YOUR interest in mind?
Fuck them! Along with Matt the douche bag Damon and his over payed MOMMY!
dorksayswhat 1 month ago
wait
i bet the teachers ghandi talked about were much different then todays shitty western asshole teachers
ThePoorShogun 1 month ago
Yes, Matt. It's all intrinsically paternalistic. Now go punch a terrorist. That's what you do best.
BatmanOneOhOne 1 month ago
Forcing people to compete only benefits those who love competing
& the 10% are leaches who'll always choose immoral loop holes
the26thhour 1 month ago
Life is unfair. Matt Damon has a high academic IQ, a Common sense that most politicians claim to have but don't, good looking even when bald to a point where many women think he is some sort of a sex symbol, and he is rich. Like seriously, what is he God's favourite? :(
melchCody 2 months ago
@melchCody you can have high IQ and common sense too
and probably look good to atleast some women
and being rich doesnt matter anyway,if you have as much money as you need you should be happy
ThePoorShogun 1 month ago
@ThePoorShogun I was exaggerating for a reason..I thought that was kinda clear when I said God's favourite.
melchCody 1 month ago
bottom line this world needs teachers and education. it makes me sick to think some people are trying to fight them at every turn. its not the teachers fault the system is messed up, at least most of them are trying to make us smarter and hopefully pull our society's collective conscious out of the gutter.
pwgroh 2 months ago
Nobody would say that shitty teachers deserve to keep their jobs. But the problem with accountability in teaching is that its much more difficult to measure performance than in other professions. In a for-profit venture, profit is a clear goal that can be easily measured. In teaching the goal is to "educate" the students, which is difficult to define and nearly impossible to quantify. But in general, teachers don't deserved to be vilified as lazy money grabbers. Its ridiculous.
RockOn8896 2 months ago
Is Damon implying that teachers should not have some sort of accountability like almost every other proffesion has?
hughkelly1993 2 months ago
Matt Damon defends teachers? He can't even defend is bad acting! What a rodeo clown!
dorksayswhat 2 months ago
@dorksayswhatisadork
Regardless of what u think about his acting, his point is valid.
the26thhour 1 month ago
@the26thhour I wonder if his point is based on his mom being a teacher. If his mom was a bartender, he probably would be advocating higher pay for bartenders because he's a mommas boy. I bet his kids go to private school.
dorksayswhat 1 month ago
Damon is a tool- He never answered the question. "You think Job insecurity is what makes me work hard?" What a D-Bag. No Matty you work "hard" for the "love" of acting and would continue to do so if you rec'd 'shitty" pay
diviamush 2 months ago
Damon is a criminal in that he's a lying bitch. He is a water carrier for the gangster unions. Most Hollywood actors are union fags and everyone that wants to do good in the movies sucks the union knob and Damon is one of the unions cronies. His mother is a union teacher and all in bed with the union gangsters. She's a union boss knob polisher for sure. A big government communist slut is the reality.
ISUCN 2 months ago
@ISUCN You have a problem with unions, dont you?
TheJonnyEnglish 2 months ago
@TheJonnyEnglish Yes, a problem w/ most unions.They r 1 of many problems w/ this country, they & Hollywood/Fagwood elites r communist dirt bags that sell lying progressive BS. They & the teachers union a have done much 2 dumb down r country's public. They r the 1s that have a problem with the rest of us. Its the unions who have been the selfish, greedy dividers & promoters of envy & hate.They r the true enemy amongst us.
1 less liberal parasitic fool=s several freed tax payers!
ISUCN 2 months ago
@ISUCN Haha for fucks sakes son, go back to school and get an actual education, then come back and discuss this with me. oh, and LURN 2 tIpE like a SMRT peRson fUckin DERP.
TheJonnyEnglish 2 months ago
@TheJonnyEnglish You must suck the union dickheads for pay, huh? Go to europe and feel welcome being amongst lame do nothing for themselves ass Os, loser parasites.
ISUCN 2 months ago
@ISUCN Haha ok bro, stop trolling. It's not even funny
TheJonnyEnglish 2 months ago
matt damon is so damn smart! probably wins every argument or debate he has with someone lol
i have a feeling he could get scary when angered
phantomwaltz 2 months ago 6
@phantomwaltz - Damon is a pussy
diviamush 2 months ago
You KNOW he still nailed that chick after the interview was done.
DazReht 2 months ago
Would you BLAME the POLICE OFFICER working in a HIGH CRIME AREA?
Would you BLAME the DOCTOR working in a hospital with a lot of SICK people?
Would you BLAME the LAWYER working with a lot of CRIMINALS?
Would you BLAME the BORDER PATROL AGENTS for all the ILLEGAL ALIENS that are crossing the border?
Would you BLAME the SOCIAL WORKER with a lot of WELFARE CASES?
Would you BLAME a TEACHER with students that refuse to study or do homework?
Schools are a reflection of their communities.
MsJanetWood 3 months ago
@MsJanetWood Good point.
jonremache 2 months ago
teachers need job security because it is not in the interest of the government to educate the lower class, inner city people. So anytime that the public want someone to blame on the failing education system, it's the teachers who become the scapegoats.
ytcy1 3 months ago
Toss around all the syllables you want, you're still a douchebag.
asinisterkid 3 months ago
MATT DAMON
jedihunter176 3 months ago
Fuck reason tv
deutschland08fn 4 months ago
Lol tha guy asked if 10 percent were "bad" and he replies maybe youre s
computermanis 5 months ago
Intrinstically paternalistic wtf
computermanis 5 months ago
<3 Teachers (except the 10% who are bad ones).
YourTeacherLE 5 months ago
This speech.. makes me think of Will Hunting.
XXActionJackson 6 months ago
@XXActionJackson I was just about to say that LOL!!!
shanenolan85 5 months ago
damon for president!!!!
11lostfan 6 months ago 9
maybe your a shitty actor like matt damon
LOL
eldiezmaradona 6 months ago
support your school teacher dot com
PHOENIX2011FAMILY 6 months ago
Camera man turns it off when he gets shut the fuck down! You are a shitty camera man.
WWBGDWACB 6 months ago
Matt Damon's nailed it.
deepshockonYT 6 months ago
@Fizzypop1211: Very well said!!!!
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@weasel66666: Oh, and it's "doesn't" which is the contracted form of does not or better known as a contraction. It is NOT dosent, which is the way you choose to spell it.
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@weasel66666: Wow! You really are just stupid. It would be "Oh, fuck off grammar Nazi!" You can't spell and your grammar( not gramer) is appalling. Please use spell check or go back to school. It's interesting that you are commenting on this thread. You NEED these teachers more than any single individual on here. You'll never move ahead in life with linguistic skills the likes of yours.
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
Some of these people commenting are such hypocrites. You claim to know it all, yet you hate on teachers. Well, where did you learn everything if not from them?
ladybugg627 6 months ago
Teachers are all scum.
hangfire0352 6 months ago
@hangfire0352 I bet you are pretty good at saying, "You want fries with that?"
coloradoredheadful 6 months ago
@coloradoredheadful That makes no sense. I am a genius.
hangfire0352 6 months ago
the one thing that disturbs me about his rant is his assumption, make that proclamation that all teachers are like educational deities, sort of like Mother Teresas of the teaching profession, beyond reproach .
they should have asked him what he thinks about some of those teachers that had sex with their students, wait that was sex education
clownprince88 6 months ago
@clownprince88 if they like each other what's the problem?
dozaemonable 6 months ago
@clownprince88 exactly where does he state in his "rant" that all teachers are like educational deities? There are idiots in every profession... bosses sleeping with underage hostesses, drunk pilots, policemen who abuse their spouse, the CEO who grabs asses because he can... on and on and on. No where is there not a small collective of dip-shits who can't manage to follow the rules. How many teachers are there in the US? What percentage of that HUGE number fits into the dip shit category?
coloradoredheadful 6 months ago
matt damon before he was famous used to work small jobs an save all the little money he made just to go down to newyork and act for parts..THATS loving your passion so i agree with matt 100% an this reporter is blek
neoprower777 6 months ago
Yeah Matt, it's the one profession where 100% are excellent. Nice, for big shot to hammer some small time cameraman for a spontaneous comment.
72gibson 6 months ago
EPIC WIN, DAMON!
MrsRat2U 6 months ago
*perfectly
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@weasel66666: Firstly it's " intrinsically paternalistic" and although I may disagree with him, his usage is perectly correct. Secondly, take a look at your grammar before criticizing Matt-it's "an expand" not "a expand." Were you not taught that "an" preceeds any noun or verb beginning with a vowel? Think about it.
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@Chopin1974l
o fuck off gramer nazi
weasel66666 6 months ago
extrinsically paternal? matt got a "expand your vocabulary" desk calendar evidently.
he played a genius in a movie , it dosent make him one in real life.
weasel66666 6 months ago
@weasel66666
he was 8 credits short of graduating from harvard before becoming an actor you dipshit
kcidswolbknilliw 6 months ago
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weasel66666 6 months ago
@kcidswolbknilliw try not to choke on his dick, fuck ass
weasel66666 6 months ago
@weasel66666 fuck ass? haaa your a joke
kcidswolbknilliw 6 months ago
@kcidswolbknilliw
funny is more like it.
weasel66666 6 months ago
@weasel66666 easy big man
kcidswolbknilliw 6 months ago
@weasel66666 Well, he went to Harvard so I wouldn't exactly call him dumb, you know what I mean?
ElGrandeLebowski 6 months ago
@ElGrandeLebowski so did George W. whats your point?
weasel66666 6 months ago
Maybe you're a shitty camera man.. I don't know!
erluver1 6 months ago
LOL
REASON.TV HAD THE ORIGINAL VIDEO PULLED
how many views did it have? Over a million?
zabrak999 6 months ago
I can't stand all this "summer's off" bullshit.
You know what teachers do in the summer? They work their second jobs
My mom tended bar 6 days a week in the summer.
Not to mention teaching is the only profession where you constantly have to renew your degree.
And all that money toward renewing your degree comes out of your pocket.
In my state, the teachers make 50 k before taxes.
It's a miserable job if you don't love teaching.
Nobody does it for the hell of it.
raylewisjoeflacco 6 months ago 26
@raylewisjoeflacco They should be paying us more than 50k for fucking up our kids education. 12 years of lousy service to our offspring and they expect more? Well so do we!
dorksayswhat 2 months ago
@dorksayswhat While teachers do a job for the public, remember there's a lot of teachers and we value teachers so much that it's a job that a lot of people choose to. So part of the pay problem is supply and demand. I respect and love teachers, and even another problem is the attitude of kids nowadays. They'd rather play COD MW3 or find out what Lady Gaga wore than learning about Calculus. A lot of kids come out of our schools without knowing how to read or write properly!
jteruel671 2 months ago
@jteruel671 When you work for the PUBIC it must be a higher standard than the private. But of course that not the way it is. I am sure a public (government) hamburger would suck too.
dorksayswhat 2 months ago
@dorksayswhat That's why people go to McDonald's for a Big Mac not the US Government. The government has shown it cant be the be-all-end-all solution for everything. Education included.
jteruel671 2 months ago
@jteruel671 The government is supposed to be in the back ground and not underfoot.
dorksayswhat 2 months ago
@jteruel671
aint schools there to teach kids how to read and write?
ThePoorShogun 1 month ago
@ThePoorShogun Learning to read and write starts at home. Parents are the first line educators for a child even before they go to grade school.
jteruel671 1 month ago
@dorksayswhat Then get the federal government and all the other micromanaging bureaucrats off of our backs so we can do our jobs!
henryoil 1 month ago
matt damon & his lack of comprehension for big words. Is he gonna cry when he says 'maybe you're a shitty cameraman?' He needs to go back to that 'how do you like them apples,' stupid little 4th grae comebacks
brettg82au 6 months ago
Brain washed bleeding liberal. SOOOOO S A D.,They did that to you Matt.
inolamax 6 months ago
Thank you M.D. I needed a good laugh, "maybe you're a shi**y camera man..."!
castellan1953 6 months ago
LLS.......ok well maybe ur a shitty camera man, i dont know. gotta love matt
MARVIA35 6 months ago
Intrinsically paternalistic: belonging to a thing by it's very nature which is that of an overbearing fatherly figure. So, in essence, he's saying that Mba thinkers and Ed policy admin are of this type: that their nature is like unto an overbearing father, all at once both coddling and demanding. Somewhat of a generalization, I feel. However, to each his own.
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
I've had bad teachers, give me a break. It is precisely BECAUSE being a teacher is an affirmative profession that gives people who do it a feeling of satisfaction that teachers get a relatively low salary. Talk to the guy who works in the trash compactor about how much he "loves" his job. Teacher's have a low salary because of all the jobs, it's one of the most pleasant, and there is therefore a large supply of people willing to do it. So stop bloviating. This reporter was dumb, but meh.
Archaebob 6 months ago
Haha - awesome. "I don't know, maybe you're a shitty cameraman..." - I know that's not the best part of the video, but for some reason it's my favorite. It's just so punchy. I like punchy.
mistformsquirrel 6 months ago 7
Yes, Matt. If he's a shitty cameraman he would get fired. But not a teacher?
spankula123 6 months ago
Matt Damon is as smart as his Team America World Police doll. Please, Hollywood, don't use your power to sway people toward liberalism. Tenure is security for lazy teachers to spew liberalism. I've seen it. I've been in classes where tenured professors play recordings of their lectures and never show up. Tenure is why we're creeping toward last in the world.
spankula123 6 months ago
@spankula123 "Tenure is why we're creeping toward last in the world"..... actually, no. And we aren't "creeping toward last in the world". If you're referring to test scores in our nation averaging lower than other nations, that's happening because we're the only ones that teach everyone, including kids that don't get great test scores. Other nations don't teach the kids that get bad test scores i.e. inner city schools.
trapnextone 6 months ago
@trapnextone That's where we differ. I don't judge people based on their skin color or socio-economic status. People in the inner cities have just as much potential as anywhere else, except the teachers are trapped in unions that support Obama (do you see the conflict of interest?). All kids can get great test scores, unless you believe some are "lesser" than others, which you do. Where do they get great scores? Connecticut? Portland? Shame on you, you simple racist.
spankula123 6 months ago
@spankula123 Take a step back from your emotions, because I'm not making any kind of stereotypes. All I said is that we teach all the kids in our nation, not just our most gifted students like China or other countries. We have a wider approach, and in my opinion a better one, but it's not perfect yet, because everyone in our country doesn't in fact get an equal education. What I said has nothing to do with students potential, it has to do with statistics.
trapnextone 6 months ago
@trapnextone "like China or other countries" and "statistics" - you're betraying yourself as a trolling know-nothing, like Matt Damon, actually. What statistics? What countries? It's not perfect yet... so dump more money into it, right? Don't you agree that when you've dumped all the money there is into something you should see results, or stop dumping? China would never hire most of our teachers, not even for their "ungifted" students. They are results based, we're Obama's re-election based.
spankula123 6 months ago
@spankula123 Do you think it's teachers who have decided that they can no longer give h.s. students a 0% on things? That there is no deadline on how late work can be turned in? Did you know there are principals out there who've never actually taught a class? It's too bad we can't wipe out administrators and put teachers in those positions. I think we'd finally see that improvement!
coloradoredheadful 6 months ago
@coloradoredheadful Every principal I know of started as a teacher. I don't think that will solve the problem. We need accountability to taxpayers, not unions who give Obama money.
spankula123 6 months ago
'it's this intrinsically paternalistic view' - I have instant respect for people who know how to express themselves, why? because I'm studying to be a literature teacher...
BethyMog15 6 months ago
@BethyMog15 You certainly need some education in the realm of "literature," or grammar Bethy. What this Hollywood hare-brain Damon said doesn't even make sense. Teachers having tenure and unions is "paternalistic"--and yet Damon seems to be on their side. Is he for or against paternalism? Most private sector workers have little or no protections, let alone tenure, unions, pansions--in other words, no "paternalism."
People are losing their ability to think critically. It is truly scary.
Noodleydoo 6 months ago
@BethyMog15 Our children are stupider every year because of the lack of "intrinsic paternalism" in education.
spankula123 6 months ago
wrote, "If you're experiencing overwhealm, then you're not on your true/ highest path." Speaks for actors in general, don't ya think? It's not worth knowing anything about Hollywood, cause it's not worth knowing. And if they're all so content over there in Hollywood fulfiling their passion, why have they been meddling in subliminal advertising/messages since the 50s? Why do they give obsolete information in movies, if you know so much? Why did they call that movie "Inception?" You'll never know
brettg82au 6 months ago
Tenure is not guaranteed job security, it simply provides us with due process and protection from unfair principals who would rather hire a coach than keep a good teacher, or one that lacks backbone and fires a teacher for failing johnny who's mom sits on the school board. There are ways to remove bad teachers under responsible administrators. I wish people would direct their focus on them rather than us.
henryoil 6 months ago 2
@henryoil amen.
cmfrant 3 months ago
I'm certain he will send his children to public school.
jbzepol 6 months ago
@jbzepol as he should
cmfrant 3 months ago
Matt Damon should stick to acting ...... at which he's even mediocre! If you want your kid to actually LEARN something, send him to a PRIVATE SCHOOL.
Karen41872 6 months ago
Although education reform is needed, the "incentive-based" model will surely be the demise of our eduction system. Look at what the "incentive-based" test scores have done to our eduction system.
Part of me thinks that we should not even give the over-simplifiers the time of day because they are obfuscating the arguments. But on the other hand, they have the simple talking point. Sure, it is misleading, but it's also easier for people to swallow. Overcoming that will be a win for education!
cmmoore1982 6 months ago 2
Bad analogy.
theropingeffect 6 months ago
how can that interviewer ask something like that? Hurp job security, incentive... seriously? what a complete dumbass!!!
andrusbgx 6 months ago
Love that last line.
frellingdargo 6 months ago
haha, love this guy. Top class
ryanbanksryan 6 months ago 24
why does he need to be rude about it?
faran1963 6 months ago
@faran1963 Why don't people understand life is more than money?
jimmyjohns123 6 months ago
@faran1963 and the reporter is talking about his mom's profession
jimmyjohns123 6 months ago
@faran1963 Because teachers are treated like shit, and we should be angrier about that.
azyeennekun 6 months ago 3
@faran1963 because the reporter is a moron
cmfrant 3 months ago
She was not expecting that!
SFSylvester 6 months ago
Back when I was at high school a young teacher styled himself as a great ‘mentor’ to the kids, though many of us felt him to be profoundly full of **it.
He always preached “Just do it! Live every day as if it was your last!” Unfortunately this slightly subnormal kid in our class interpreted this to mean he should brutally rape a girl he liked- it was his ‘last day’, so why not?
The kid did a few months in juvenile detention, the girl’s family moved away & the teacher was disgraced & fired.
SuperTruth77 6 months ago
@SuperTruth77 it's not the teacher's fault that a student obviously had something wrong with him.
cmfrant 3 months ago
As much as i think Matt Damon is awesome everytime i hear or read his name, I must repeat his name like a retard.
pambowell 6 months ago
lol matt damon denying job security. The real question is; if actors got paid $11 an hour, would they really love doing what they do? If given the many limiting conditions of average ordinary every day jobs, like competing with the traffic twice a day just to get to and from work, just to name one? F NO! Matt Damon back peddles out of a good, hard-hitting, honest question, he calls in the Saints (by mentioning teachers) and all you dicks fall for it! Fing actors!
brettg82au 6 months ago
@brettg82au You realize the vast majority of actors don't get paid at all. For every Matt Damon there is there are literally hundreds of striving artists who are forced to take up second jobs to pay for the choice to pursue their passion. For every multimillion dollar blockbuster film there are hundreds of independent/student films were the payment is minimal or volunteer. You obviously no nothing about the film industry as it's one of the most difficult to survive in.
OpiBrown 6 months ago
There's the exact same number of "movie stars" in the 30s, as there are today, same with any other decade. Hm they've stuck to the same business schematic from the get go. Why's that? Cuz there's only so much idiots who'd go see a movie because it's main attraction is a "movie star," (again depriving the script of being the star). Corruption, keeping their organsation seem like a rare gem and keeping you suckers in check is what gives them an inside out industry and control over their investment
brettg82au 6 months ago
"You obviously no nothing about the film industry as it's one of the most difficult to survive in."
If they're "artists," then why don't they reinvent the wheel? (Artists are supposed to be independant thinkers.) Why do they put themselves in shackles and chains, join the ques, follow the same rules, hints and tips that have gotten everyone else who's failed as far as they'll ever go? If they were artists, they'd disregard the rules, make up their own, think for themselves and be original
brettg82au 6 months ago
@OpiBrown do you think any of them would even still be in that line if there wasn't that fame, or multi-million-dollar incentive? If it's their "passion," why did Mickey Rourke tell some chick to "ditch her boyfriend & jump in the car with him ," one night? Why do all movie stars hit the drugs? What was George Clooney doing at a bar trying to fight fabio, if he's fulfiling his passion? Why are all these movie stars in rehab clinics, lives filled with stress & overload? A spiritual guru once
brettg82au 6 months ago
Who is that dumb B%#ch interviewing him? I need to remember to put her on my "suck" list.
Gregasaki 6 months ago 2
defense dot gov /contracts is where the educational budget has gone
audiowiz 6 months ago
@cupofjoewithjen I agree 100% that education is important, and it's ridiculous that daily defense contracts have been in the hundreds of millions to billions since at least 1994. Our taxes have been misdirected
audiowiz 6 months ago
@cupofjoewithjen There are better & easier ways to earn a living than cleaning honeybuckets but people still do it. Some teachers are inspired, some just needed a gig.
audiowiz 6 months ago
Every time I see Matt Damon... I just hear this voice in my head... "MATTTTTT DAAAAAAMOOOOOOOOOOOONN"
M0n0liths 6 months ago 8
@M0n0liths matt damon DDSSSH!
brettg82au 6 months ago
What about all those teachers in Atlanta who abetted their students in a cheating scandal? I don't think we should assume that ALL teachers are good just because they are teachers. And yes, contrary to what Mr. Damon seems to think, tenure creates a situation in which teachers have less incentive to not be lazy. If you KNOW you won't get fired, why put in more effort than is necessary? Besides.. you won't get fired.. no matter what!
1988jrouse 6 months ago
@1988jrouse
People with tenure can still get fired.
dowdicus 6 months ago
@dowdicus Not as easily as those of us without...what I mean is those of us that pay for those teachers with tenure.
kittenagogo28 6 months ago
@1988jrouse That's why he responded "maybe your a shitty camera man. There will always be those 10% of shitty professionals. He was speaking on behalf of good teachers. The BEST teachers are the ones who don't care about money and incentives. GOOD teachers teach because they WANT to teach.
Echoes310 6 months ago
Hurray for Matt! and TEACHERS!!!! :-)
cathairinmyfood 6 months ago
I'm currently an English/Education student. I think that what he said could not be any closer to the truth! First of all, the cameraman did seem pretty "shitty." All of my instructors, classmates, and past teachers have all told me the same thing, "You don't go into teaching for the salary." Teaching usually does make a decent salary, pay the bills, etc. but in order to have the standard of living many people THINK they have they usually have some other source of income coming in.
MandyNoel2007 6 months ago
I teach and I can tell you that over 50% of teachers more or less tune out at my school after they get tenure....He's giving us a Hollywood esque version of what he thinks teaching is about....she's absolutely correct to make that point.
Goal3153 6 months ago
@Goal3153 Thank you!
kittenagogo28 6 months ago
Damon's such a freakin' champ!
archestratus 6 months ago
thefitconnection ,
What percentage of your hero Matt Damon's take home pay does he pay in school taxes? 1/100th of 1 percent maybe?
ThePopcorn2323 6 months ago
@TheFitConnection ,
At nearly $7000 per year school taxes with another nearly 2% earned income,the goose that layed the golden egg is about tapped out. You can name call all night instead of engaging in lucid debate, but if you had to accept the merit raises (like frozen or decreasing salaries), health benefits and pension plans of the non public woker, you would lay down and cry like a baby. America is broke and your DB pension - can we talk about that next - are in deep trouble.
ThePopcorn2323 6 months ago
@TheFitConnection: Your nothing more than a bully. Having to prove your intelligence by demeaning others only serves to prove one thing: You are incredibly insecure. I'm sorry that my success and intelligence threaten you. Attacking individuals only serves to vindicate that which you accuse others of. You are nothing more than a troglodyte. Grow up!!!!
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@Chopin1974l Anyway, my parents were public school teachers and believe me they made a very decent living. Any teacher that bitches about how abused they are drives me crazy. The dude was trying to defend tenure, but couldn't. He wouldn't (couldn't) answer simple questions. If it seemed like I was screwing with him it's because he had it coming. Most teachers will be the first to not give a rats when others are being laid off as long as they get theirs. Then they bellyache.
kittenagogo28 6 months ago
@TheFitConnection: You really ought to read my previous posts before you start accusing me. You'll discover that I'm very much in favor of what Damon said and of support for teachers. I'm also very aware of my slip of the thumb. I and O lay directly beside each other. It was nothing more than a typo.
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@kittenagogo28: What of the individuals in society who do not have children and still have to pay taxes that help to subsidize schools within their borders? I'm one of said individuals. I don't like paying for kids I don't have, but my taxes are going to support a dangerously rickety Medicare program so why not education as well;-)
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@Chopin1974l This has to be the all-time stupid statement of the day. Republicans are so fucking retarded they're like little children you have to lead around by the hand. They have absolutely no sense of the big picture. Yes, Chopin, I'd like to live in a society populated by neanderthals. So, when I go to whatever store I'm going to, the salesperson can only grunt and point. Or, the doctor can only grunt and stab. You're simply a pathetic idiot. Really, beyond hope.
TheFitConnection 6 months ago
@Chopin1974l What did you get all over me for? :) The guy couldn't answer why wealthy people send their kids to private schools and was being a whiney little victimized teacher. Poor him. I agree totally! I don't have kids either and completely resent paying for other people to send their kids to our inefficient, ineffective public schools. I am more libertarian than anything else too. Sorry I called you a moonbat it's just they dig the Latin cause they think it covers up what they don't know.
kittenagogo28 6 months ago
@kittenagogo28: Actually, I'm very much a Republican. I believe in libertarianism but I'm not a liberal.
I actually think your idea of deciding to which school you'd like to send your taxes is a great one. I'd be on favor of that.
Chopin1974l 6 months ago
@Chopin1974l Actually, you'd be IN favor of that, not ON favor of it. Republicans and non-schooling, you go together like peas and carrots. Again, another moron who should have listened to that underpaid teacher.
TheFitConnection 6 months ago
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Using the phrase "intrinsically paternalistic" in this context is like calling Balls and Strikes at a child's T-Ball game - it makes NO sense. Matt, just smile and leave debate concerning workplace incentives to someone...ANYONE that has run an actual business or has to manage resources and detemine yearly compensation for people that make in a YEAR, what you make in a DAY.
ThePopcorn2323 6 months ago
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ThePopcorn2323 6 months ago
Yeah, I'd be dead against performance based pay if all I had to do to get a pay rise is not get fired for 12 months.
American education does have problems. I agree with Damon, it is a complex issue. ... but one of those issues is that good teachers don't get rewarded for good performance.
Even if I'm passionate about a job, if I get rewarded the same for putting in 10% effort as if I'd put in 100%, who really thinks I'm going to put in 100% for any extended period? That's just fantasy.
willlotto1 6 months ago
MATTTT DAMONNNNNN
LukeSimms 6 months ago
This guy clearly has no clue - Teachers, on average, make more than $31 per hours which is more than the majority of Americans (somewhere around the 75th percentile) - since most of us make ""shitty" salaries, we most all be HIGHLY motiviated to work hard according to Matt...or at least 75% of us anyway - those that make more probably could care less like Matt - guy's a genius....
Matt, next, let's talk about Health Benefits, Defined Benefit pensions and summers off.
ThePopcorn2323 6 months ago
@ThePopcorn2323 Actually retard, you're forgetting all of the hours at home grading tests, preparing lesson plans, etc. Again, another moron with absolutely no clue. Teachers don't race out the door when the school bell rings, there's alot of unpaid work after school and at home. Start reading and learn about what you're talking about before you open your retarded mouth. A teacher's actual hourly rate is MUCH lower when you factor in the non-paid, but necessary hours.
TheFitConnection 6 months ago
@TheFitConnection ,
Typical name calling from another knownothing. Are you kidding me? Listen pal, if you want to compare hours, let's bring it on. To survice in a 2011 corporate ENV with NO CONTRACT and high forced turnover (like 13% layoffs with 1.5% merits), you have to be onsite at ALL hours, wHether it is a typical 7 - 5 or night shift to cover PROD cycles or a weekend after month-end,and this include when it snows 20" for 52 weeks per year less minimal PTO. STFU..
ThePopcorn2323 6 months ago
@ThePopcorn2323 Teachers are trained professionals who spend years at university to get their degree, so yes they do get paid more than the 'average' Joe. BUT if you calculated the hourly rate based on the number of hours we work, it's not that great. I get to school at about 8am and leave at about 7pm Mon through Fri. On average my lunch break is about 10 mins; my contract says it's 40 minutes unpaid. I do several hours of work at home each night and on weekends. And summers off?! Ha! I wish!
katelouise88 6 months ago
@katelouise88 - to start with, I don't intend any of this to attack you or your profession, I would just like to hear your response to this: that it is precisely BECAUSE teachers "love to teach" that they get paid less. How many jobs can you think of that provide the kind of affirmative satisfaction that teaching does? Lot's of people are willing to teach, leading to a large supply of potential teachers. It's only natural that the wage suffers some from that. Why is that wrong?
Archaebob 6 months ago
@Archaebob Yes, lots of people are willing to teach but until they enter the profession they do not realise the amount of work that they do not get paid for. There are lots of people who enter the teaching profession (a large supply) but end up leaving before 10 years of service because of the crappy conditions. So saying that they "love" what they do is why they get paid less doesn't really correlate with the large numbers of teachers leaving the profession due to bad conditions/pay.
katelouise88 6 months ago
The girl asking questions is an idiot. Most people don't understand the dedication and hours put into teaching...Damon is 100% correct. The cameraman just proves that there is a major education problem in the United States...what a retard.
Italia311 6 months ago 3
This whole thing is ridiculous. Fox News gets morons up in arms about teachers, who are paid like shit. Meanwhile Fox News defends the financial asshats who tanked the entire economy and defend their million dollar bonuses. You teabagger idiots should have been paying attention to those underpaid teachers you couldn't listen to because you were too busy scratching your asses and sniffing the result...
TheFitConnection 6 months ago 3
The only thing wrong with education is the majority of shitty parents out there right now. I work around alot of teachers - people who really care about what they do. They try to get the parents to work with their children and the parents just simply aren't interested. Parents - if you don't have the time to raise your children right, don't fucking have children.
TheFitConnection 6 months ago 3
@TheFitConnection Man there is a lot of hate in this thread.
jpk112 6 months ago
Do the conservative retards not realize he just owned that reporter? They put this up as a 'bad defense of teachers'. I'm shocked right now. The tea baggers don't even realize when they've been owned on national tv. They're that fucking stupid. It's unbelievable!
TheFitConnection 6 months ago 3
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Fizzypop1211 6 months ago
@Fizzypop1211 Fizzypop - yes, I do know what teabagging is. It's what you were doing instead of listening in class to the underpaid teacher who was killing themselves trying to drill some sense into your retarded skull. That same skull that you only saw fit to use as a testical pad.
TheFitConnection 6 months ago
PWNT.
mgospeed31 6 months ago
And you ask why we're paid for the year?
No, maybe not all teachers do this. But I know a great number that do. Experienced ones, even.
So, for God's sake, do some research before you make your remarkably offensive comments.
PolarBearAja 6 months ago
I am not only a teacher, but a form tutor, who does meetings with students and their parents in my form. We discuss marks, things they've done well, things they can do to improve, and set short and long term goals relevant to their career choices.
Furthermore, we also have parents evenings, which we are not paid for. In fact that is a legal part of our contract.
And many of us give up our lunch, break times and afterschools to help students, provide tutorials, and also to run clubs
PolarBearAja 6 months ago
@PolarBearAja
Oh PLEASE, I'm getting tearful now.
Fizzypop1211 6 months ago
@Fizzypop1211
Obviously my point is not to incite pity for teachers but to emphasize that a lot of people have misconceptions about what we do. I'm not complaining. I do it because I like teaching and because I'm happy to be able to make a difference.
But too many people consider teaching to not even be a professional career and think we do nothing. It's incredibly offensive and I'm just sick of people making comments without ever knowing facts.
PolarBearAja 6 months ago
@PolarBearAja You are enthusing about the top 5%, interested, bothered, capable, inspirational, forever remembered in a life changing way. The other end is not occupied by 5% but I suggest 35% who just shouldn't be there. They cant direct food into their mouths, how can they direct the young. The middle ranges from mediocre to very good. Thats not all "ok", or is it all "very good" - its a spread.
A degree doesn't make you a good teacher. In fact, some "unqualified" assistants are far better.
Fizzypop1211 6 months ago
Furthermore does babysitting involve making sure the kid is confident in their skills and helping them to do well on their exams so that they can get into college? Does it involve guiding kids into which career they might like based on their interests and talents in certain subjects?
Does it involve helping them to build relationships with others?
I didn't think so.