What a good guy we have here. Tex is awesome .. I think hes the MVP for me this year ! Jeter,rodriguez,teixeira for sure,martin,cano,granderson,swicher,gardner........what a great team.
@norjak71 I am one of the biggest Yankee fans the biggest is my granny and we live in Canada dummy in Winnipeg reply if u know where that is cause Teixeira owns Cabrera like Cabrera might be good but Teixeira owns first base and u hate him cause u wish u could play as good as him
As much as I would like to see either Jeter or Teixeira to get the MVP, Mauer will win it. Keep in mind after Morneau went down Mauer have to carry the Twins to the playoffs, if he went down the Twins would've been screwed.
@norjak71 way to come in, over a year later, and make such a valid point. When the comment was made, during the 2009 season, that wouldve been the time to way in. And i dont see how the mvp (Miguel LOL Cabrera) can play for a team that doesnt see the post season.... but thanks for that, whatever it was
@norjak71 thats true, but whats the definition of Value? How much value do you have, when your team cant even make it to the playoffs in the worst division in baseball? Or are you just a stat-jerker? If so, then look up his defensive stats, since he is just mediocre.. And the moron part? really, or are u just that immature? Anyway, back to the first sentence of the first reply. Way to make an argument against a comment from 2009, "moron".
@norjak71 ahhh never fucking mind. i see from visiting ur page that u must have slipped off your pms meds, and decided to troll abunch of yankee boards, just wanting some sort of attention thrown at you. Enjoy digging up year old comments, and trolling yankee comment boards. No response necessary, and it definitely will not warrant one from me... Got rings? nope?! we do though :)
@avonbarksdale420 guess wat...you didnt win this year, and like i tell all dumbass yankee fans, no one outside new york cares :) if you didnt win this year, it doesnt matter, like how you say "26" every year for 9 years til you won "27" lol. truly pathetic hahaha. and cabrera owns teixeria. and i mean OWNS
@norjak71 I'm not even a Yankees fan but I'm going to reply just so I can tell you how wrong you are. You say that no one outside NY cares? Actually they do, the Yankees have the most fans in baseball and a ton of people are Yankees fans that don't live in NY, so your saying they don't care about the Yankees? Cabrera owns Teixeira? lol hardly, if your talking about Miguel Cabrera, Texeira is a much better fielder than Cabrera and Teixeira is a good hitter, all around Teixeira is better.
to me, it comes down to, when u got risp in a clutch at bat, or when their is a tough defensive play that needs to be made, those are the important stats. RIght now, as a lifetime yankees fan, i still put jeters reliability at short above any defensive player in the bigs. As far as clutch, its very tough to decide whos the best anymore, i mean 3 years ago it was obviously big papi, but now, there are clutch hitters on every team.but honestly, we arent halfway thru yet. But im just glad we turned
our team around. now if the pitching could get more consistent, and if girardi knew his ass from his elbow id be happy. regardless, long season left, we will see how it shapes out. its just been a very interesting season... SIDE NOTE---- Rip Steve McNair, a class act, and he died young, but like they say... only the good do. we will never forget ya Air McNair... i know i know this isnt a titans, ravens, or football board. but ph uck it, i think anyone who jokes about this should die SLOW
i just remember a twins fan talkin about how the yanks dont beat the sox... which this season has been true, but i havent seen a post stating that the twins are still 3rd in a weak division, while we are neck and neck with the second best team in the bigs. Hey third place, ready to talk about how much we suck again? 0-6, lookin for ANOTHER sweep against the stellar, al central run of the pack team. and dang cc and aj and teixera really do suck too, what a way to put karmas long one in ya azz
mauer is the shining spot on the twins, and hes definitely gonna retire a twin. Hes dedicated to playing there, which says alot in a market where money talks. My opinion, Albert Pujols is the most dominant hitter in the game. As far as catchers go, i would be hard pressed to name too many better presently than mauer. As far as ranking overall, man im drunk. i aint sure but i mean he does do his job well. You both have made good arguments, i dont really put much stock in stats... hes great tho!
well, ill give everyone a name to look forward to, and yes, he IS in our farm system. Jesus Montero, he will be posadas predecessor(spelling?) the kid is going to be brilliant. Just hoping Jorge can finish his career healthy and happily by putting the Red Sux on their ass. on a side note.... You do realize this is a circular argument, meaning it starts the same place, and ends the same place, and the wheels on the bus keep turning.
Brian McCann is the best overall catcher in the game, Russell Martin is the best defensive catcher in the game, and Joe Mauer is probably top three for both.
I never said that he didn't qualify for it. In fact, my exact words were that he has the fewest at-bats out of any batter that QUALIFIES for the batting title. Then again, you never properly read what I write, so it doesn't suprise me.
no one gives a shit how many AB's hes had. bottom line is he has met the required PA's to be a league leader in BA and thats all that matters.
just look at their fuckin stats you moron. any jackass who knows baseball would say Mauer is better than Mccann. Mccann isnt even starting in the All star game. your so damn stupid
Once again, you go back to All-Star games. I mean, seriously, you do know that the All-Star games are MEANINGLESS, right? Mike Schmidt retired mid-season and was elected to the All-Star game. All-Star games mean shit, but whatever. If that's your best reason, go ahead and use it.
McCann has more home runs, more runs driven in (since you were using those stats earler), has more extra-base hits, and has a far better SLG. Plus, McCann has played in fewer games and posts comparable stats.
the only stat that Mccann is better is SLG, every other stat mauer owns Mccann. then on defense Mauer has a better fielding percentage, far less erros,(Mccann has double the errors) and throws more players out stealing, and less past balls
Yeah, because errors and fielding percentage are by far the best stats to use, and passed balls (which are very differentiate from wild pitches). You've got the CS%, but you failed to mention that McCann consistently has a better RF/g and RF/9, and the fact that McCann plays in a much speedier division (the NL East has stolen 2,090 bases over the past four seasons, while the AL Central has stolen only 1,625, and you should see the totals).
i never said they were the best stats to use moron. the fact that mccann has over double the errros that mauer has committed should tell you a little something. and i forgot fielding percentage doesnt mean shit they should just get rid of that stat. Mauer is a better defensive catcher your so fucking clueless about everything. any jackass knows mauer is a better overall catcher. mccann hitting stats are weaker than Mauers
If you adjust Mauer's stats through his first 550 games, Mauer doesn't hold too much of an edge over McCann.
Fielding percentage is a terrible stat. Of course, if you say it's not a bad stat, it apparently isn't. And by that logic, Joe Mauer's 2008 season was better than Pudge Rodriguez's 1992 season because Mauer had fewer errors and a better fielding percentage. Once again, McCann's RF/g and RF/9 are consistently better than Mauer's.
so what if his RF/g and RF/9 is better than mauers. you act like those stats alone make him a better overall catcher than mauer like you said he was. thats all you have to say to make him better. your such a dumbass
tell me how you are going to "adjust" their stats to make them comparable. stop saying bull shit you dumbass mauer has better offensive stats and thats all that needs to be said, hes a better player
I already explained this to you, but apparently your tiny brain cannot comprehend it. If you adjust (really no reason for quotation marks, idiot) their stats through their first 550 games (as Joe Mauer has quite a bit more service time than McCann) then their stats are comparable.
But, of course, anything I say is bullshit (it's one word, little fella), despite the fact that I have been right SO many times.
Mauers stats were still all better. so your stupid its unbelievable. he has a better average, OBP, draws almost twice as many walks, strikes out less, better OPS, more than double SB
if you think mccann is better overall than mauer seriously? give me a break
i have looked at the stats and mauer leads mccann is every catagory except hR, RBI, and SLG, but home runs and RBI's are very misleading and dont mean you are a better hitter. you are so stupid you just refuse to look at all the other stats and how mauer is better in every category. the only thing you have said about mccann is a better RF/9 and RF/G. those two stats alone dont make him better than mauer. your an idiot
No, I'm sick and tired of you "two" idiots bringing up my daughter and my personal life.
I've already won all of these arguments. End of story. I've posted stats, names, and whatever else that you have failed to do. I have proven you wrong on dozens of occasions, and you know nothing about baseball. You know literally nothing about baseball. Nothing, nada, zip. So, when I destroy you, you resort to personal and childish insults and talk about my background and family.
you know nothing nada zip about us or what we do. so theres one thing your wrong about. you think you know it all. just because you work for baseball reference and make 10 bucks an hour doesnt mean you know everything about baseball. your just too pathetic and ignorant. you clearly dont know anything about baseball when you say pedro was the best of all time
oh thats too bad. no one would agree with you on any of your opinions so i dont know where your getting your random stuff from. We already OWNED you in everything we've said and you just sit and cry about it.
Sorry man, this is over. I already said that I won. Game over man, game over. It's too late. I already owned you and this discussion is over. You can keep writing if you want to, but we all know that I won and you were owned, repeatedly.
all you did was mention some stupid facts by bill james that are totally useless to anything we were talking about. any dumbass knows that pedro wasnt the best pitcher ever so we owned you on that one. and you think Mauer sucks. why dont you go parent your 8 year old daughter instead of losing every youtube argument
1.) SABR stats are a hell of a lot better than batting average and RBIs, which you "two" idiots love to use
2.) I never said Pedro was the greatest. I said he was among the greatest and you never told me why he wasn't. (And for the record, MNTwins wasn't even involved in that "argument")
3.) I never once said Mauer sucks. I said you are overrating him and named five hitters that are better than him.
you said martinez was the best of all time. stop lying bitch.
im overrating Mauer? in what way. your acting like hes the most overrated player. you said ryan braun is better which is just a joke. and for the record MNTwins has been in this whole argument. i get a kick out of fuckin oblivious you are. you think that we are the same people. hahaha just how pathetic you are.
Please, please, I am begging you. Tell me where I said that Pedro was the greatest of all-time. Please, go find it, copy my words and paste them here.
You are saying he's the best hitter in baseball, even though I posted five hitters who are better. You also said he was the best hitter in the game because he's won two batting titles, and you act like batting average is a great stat.
MNTwins was not involved in the Pedro argument. He was not.
one of the 3 or 4 greatest of all time? Thats one the the more pathetic things you have said so far. so how come Mauer is the first catcher to ever win a batting title? you act like its not even hard and if it doesnt show good good a hitter is then why have no other catchers ever won the title??
The fact that you are judging a hitter by batting titles is hilarious. You probably think that Bill Mueller was the best hitter in the game when he won his batting title!
Why have no other catchers won a batting title? Well, first of all, league hitting is crucial when talking about batting titles. Mike Piazza, the greatest hitting catcher of all-time, hit .362 and placed third. Mickey Cochrane hit .357 and .349 and placed fourth and fifth, respectively.
sound it out for me please. you say that every player is better than Mauer only no one believes you because your full of none sense. first catcher to win 2 batting titles and currently batting .392. you name off players that you think are better than mauer who strike out twice as much as him
please ladies. Mauer is awesome, top 3 catcher in MLB; best this season. Awesome batter, but there are plenty better than him. Pedro used to be a top 10 pitcher in baseball but is not a top 10 of all time.
well non sense would be saying that Pedro is a top 3 or 4 hitter of all time. or saying that victor martinez is better than mauer. or saying that Morneau is a better hitter than Mauer
Well, it would be "none sense" to say that batting average is a great stat to determine a hitter's ability, to say that Joe Morgan/John Kruk/Steve Phillips are experts, to say that Joe Mauer is a top-five hitter in baseball (when I give you five other names and various reasons why they are better) and completely ignore them, and to consider Walter Johnson the greatest pitcher of all-time, give me a false record that he once held and act like it doesn't matter when I prove you very wrong.
you say that Joe Morgan/John Kruk/steve Phillips are just jokes dont you? people that that played the game or coached or managed they must be dumbasses right? instead you go by some made up stats by a random guy and say that those are 'the Best" stats to go by. Batting average is a great stat to determine a hitters ability. i dont see how batting average is a "bad" stat to go by. maybe not the best but its still a great stat. you say im stupid for saying Walter Johnson?who do you thinkis better
I have said many times that Phillips/Morgan/Kruk are jokes. I'm not the only one who believes so.
A great stat? I've already given you many reasons as to why it's not only misleading, but it's an awful way to judge a hitter by. You never did answer my question either. Hillebrand hit .310 in 2004, Adam Dunn hit .266. Who's the better hitter? Answer me that, please.
Walter Johnson played in an easier era and didn't have to face non-whites. Pedro, Koufax, Seaver, Clemens, Maddux, Johnson...
im not the only one who believes walter johnson is the best pitcher of all time. you think im some idiot for even including him in the top 5. your fuckin pathetic. if one espn analyst says somethimg dumb you just say they are a joke. they know way more about baseball you and a lot of people. as for hillenbrand and dunn. who's the better hitter? why dont you answer that for yourself if you care so much you've asked me that like 10 times already. i dont care about what they did 5 yrs ago
And again, you avoid answering my question. It has nothing to do with the year, it has to do with the simple fact that Adam Dunn is/was a far, far, far better hitter than Hillebrand ever wanted to be, despite having a batting average fifty points lower. Batting average is misleading, I don't know how to get that through your head.
I never said you were the only one. That's the problem. Dead-ball era players are overrated because it was a much simpler and primitive game without non-whites.
wow your stupid. players get better each generation. in 50 years people will probably be saying that pedro, johnson, koufax, and seaver were overrated because players will always get better, stronger, faster, ect
Walter Johnson played in an era with bigger ballparks, less-than-formidable opponents, whites only, and an otherwise watered-down game. He also had the luxury of pitching from a taller mound. Just ask Bob Gibson and Denny McLain what a taller mound did for them.
And once again, you ignore answering my question.
And Randy Johnson and Pedro played in the toughest offensive era in baseball and utterly dominated the entire game for several years. Same for Clemens and Maddux.
once again i ignore your question? i dont give a fuck about your question ass hole it means nothing to the argument. you sit their and cry because i dont answer your pathetically random questions
My "pathetically random" question is neither patheic, nor random.
I asked you who was the better hitter. Shea Hillebrand, who had the higher batting average, or Adam Dunn with more home runs, and better OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+. You didn't answer my question because it proves my point that batting average is a very misleading stat.
But of course, you just call it stupid and call me an asshole (it's one whole word, by the way) and say that it means nothing. Of course it doesn't...
Perhaps you should learn to count. I named off four other stats, three of which were invented by Bill James.
I named four stats that are far better measures of a hitter's skill than batting average, and three of them were created by Bill James. You just don't want to admit that I'm right about any of this because it kills your assertion that batting average is a great stat, when in fact it's incredibly misleading, which I have proven dozens of times.
This has nothing to do with Joe Mauer and the fact that he has fewer at-bats and fewer games played than anyone else who qualifies for the league lead in any category.
so what? no one else had that high of numbers thru as many games as he has played. if he played for the yankees and got the attention the yankees get you would say hes top 5 since your so pathetic
This has nothing to do with what team he plays for. It has to do with the simple fact that he has fewer at-bats and games played than any other player that qualifies for any offensive category. This has less than nothing to do with him playing for the Twins. I have said numerous times that Hanley Ramirez is the best hitter in the game. His team's market is smaller than the Twins.
It's impossible talking to someone as stupid as you.
you think hanley ramirez is the best hitter in the game? hahahaha thats a good one. its pretty damn obvious that the best hitter is Pujols. any dumbass who knows anything about baseball could tell you that one
And yet you are the idiot that said that Joe Mauer was the best hitter in the game.
I have stated various times that Pujols is the best hitter in the game. I meant to say that Hanley is by far the most impressive overall player in the game, which he most certainly is. If his defense was better, he could very well be the best shortstop since Alex Rodriguez.
He's about the fourth best defensive catcher, he is not a good baserunner (I.E. doesn't have great speed), he doesn't walk a lot (averages 85 a season), never has a lot of extra-base hits or a good slugging percentage, his OPS has been over .900 once, his OPS+ is very unimpressive for a "top 5" player, he grounds into a lot of double plays, and he's never shown great power (I don't care how many opposite field home runs he has this season).
where do you find these stats that say he is the 4th best defensive catcher? and that hes not a good baserunner? 85 walks is good for a non power hitter actually. but your too dumb to realize that. hes one of the most patient hitters in the game.
For the past three seasons, Russel Martin has had a higher RF/9 and RF/g every single season. All of the Molina brothers have posted better defensive stats than Mauer. Ivan Rodriguez still posts a supremely better CS% every single season. Of course, you'll probably just want to use stupid stats like FP and errors.
85 walks is good? No, it really isn't "good" for any type of player. It's decent.
Also, you are too stupid to realize (or look at stats) that Mauer has never walked 85 times.
oh im sorry he hasnt ever walked 85 times. thats his 162 game average. my bad. you really called me out on that one. your right. mauer grounds into tons of double plays. and he really sucks at baserunning too. yeah i bet you watch the Twins a lot living in Brooklyn and working all day and parenting your 8 year old daughter. Mauer averages more walks per 162 games than Braun, Texeira, Hanley Ramirez, A rod, Justin Morneau, Pedroia, Youkilis
Yeah, let's go ahead and ignore the fact that the rest of the players that you mentioned all have better on-base percentages and play in more games. But, I figured you wouldn't mention that.
This has nothing to do with watching any certain team. Mauer is not a good baserunner. Last year his conversion rate was 50%. He stole one base last year, seven the year before. How does that make him a good baserunner? Mauer has grounded into more than 20 DP in two of the last three seasons.
"let's go ahead and ignore the fact that the rest of the players that you mentioned all have better on-base percentages and play in more games"
what does the number of games you play in have anything to do with making walks less important? the more important number is 162 game average.
and i dont know what the hell your talking about when you say they ALL have better on base percentages when Mauer has the highest career OBP out of every player i named off. good one
Again, he's played in far fewer games than almost all of the players you mentioned. You're talking about a higher career OBP for a guy who usually plays no more than 140 games and has only played for four full seasons.
"the more important number is 162 game average"
Mauer has never played more than 146 games. Teixeira has done that four times, A-Rod ten times, Hanley three times, Morneau three times. If you play only 140 games a season, your 162-game average increases.
hahahaha all those guys average less than 85 walks per 162 games. all you can say is that mauer hasnt played nearly as many games as those other players. just shut up your the only one that says that as your excuse for saying mauer isnt as good as them. Mauer doesnt play 162 games in a season because he catches and takes more days off. any dumbass would realize that
That's not the point here, but of course you fail to realize that.
When you play fewer games, regardless of position, you have fewer at-bats. When you have fewer at-bats, you averages go up, any jackass realizes that (except for you obviously).
Joe Mauer has never walked 85 times in a SINGLE SEASON, so his 162-game average is misleading. It's amazing to me that you can't understand that.
It's not an excuse, it's a legitimate fact. The only reason you deny it is because you are a homer.
We've already discussed this. He has the fewest at-bats and games played out of all the players that qualify for league leads. Naturally, you either failed to realize that, or you don't want to say that because you know it kills whatever "point" you are trying to make.
your the only person who says that mauer doesnt have enough at bats. no other player had that high of OBP or BA thru as many AB's as he's had so far. no one gives a shit that he hasnt had enough at bats as every other player except you.
Intelligent people do. Unfortunately, youtube is generally filled with morons like yourself.
Again, it's not an excuse. It's a legitimate fact. Out of every player that qualifies for the batting title, Mauer has by far the fewest at-bats and games played.
ohh ok so hes not as good as people who do have more AB's and games? like games has anything to do with how good you are. wow your stupid. hes on his way to another batting title this year again and you cant do shit about it. hahahahahahaha oh i forgot batting titles dont mean anything especially when your hitting .380
Did I say that he's not as good as any of the other players in my last post? No.
I stated, and it would help if you knew how to read at better than a fourth-grade level, that keep talking about his stats this season, although he has by far the fewest games and at-bats out of any other qualifying Major League player. I've only explained this about a thousand times.
He's hitting .380 with another half of the season to go, but you probably think that there's no way he's not going to hit .380.
And you are too stupid to realize that he's not a top-five hitter. But you obviously know nothing about baseball and just have a hard-on for Joe Mauer and the Twins, and because of that you will never shut your mouth.
Other players are better overall players, like the ones that I mentioned, so no, he's not a top five player in the game. You've tried proving it to me, but I shut down every single one of your responses.
It's not me that doesn't get it, it is you my friend.
Eric you are the biggest idiot i have ever came across. You sit on your ass at "work" and comment youtube videos all day. And to top it off, your not just commenting, your arguing with people. Two 16 year olds. Very mature! Think about that one next time you comment. Get a damn life you loser.
Age has nothing to do with it. I'm only six years older than you, so it truly doesn't matter.
I'm the biggest idiot that YOU have ever come across? How am I an idiot?
Just about every single thing that I have said has been right. Just because you are too immature and stubborn to see it or admit it, doesn't mean that I wasn't right.
Once again, you have no idea what I do for a living, and you say "work".
You talk about me not having a life...yet you always reply back to me...
so your saying you had a wife 8 years ago and had a daughter with her. so you had her when you were 14?. Thats smart
tell me where i said Bill james "sucks"
tell me where i said Mark Texeira "sucks"
tell me where i said joe morgan was an expert, (i clearly never said that) i just said he knows a thing or 2 about baseball and hitting.(and you think otherwise)
Are you trying to say Walter Johnson/cy Young/ and Nolan Ryan aren't even considerable to be the best pitcher ever?
Regarding the above quote, we were talking about Joe Morgan.
I was actually 16, I clearly corrected myself. As if this has anything to do with this argument. My family has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. So...stop talking about it.
Well, let's see...CY and WJ pitched in a MUCH easier era, and NR is the most overrated player, maybe ever.
wow your stupid. who cares what era they pitched in as far as im concerned they were playing the same game under mostly the same rules. you think you know a lot more than hall of fame players dont you? yeah just because you think they are bad doesnt mean they are stupid
You talk about how I have no life, yet you never fail to comment back at me.
You still don't know what work I do.
Nobody pays attention to you, and you only make me laugh because of how incredibly low your intelligence must be. I can only imagine what kind of high school would pass someone with such severe stupidity.
All you do is insult my personal life to cover up your own insecurities and personal inadequacies.
yeah because i go to one of the bigger high schools in my state with very good academics, but according to you, it must be shitty even though you dont have a clue who i am or where my school is
yeah we actually do. But since you think you know us so well and think we are the same person you can just keep thinking that because your too stupid to realize anything else.
so at 16 your saying you had your own house and a job that was well paying enough to support a kid and a wife. oh and i assumed you went to school too? or did you drop out of that. having a child at age 16 isnt smart. its comical
***at the age of 16***** im sorry for that typing error. please forgive me before you go off on some tangent telling me that no one ever makes mistakes.. oh wait, it sounds like you made a HUGE mistake when you were 16, getting a girl pregnant. you cant tell me that that was planned.
I did go to school actually. I finished high school and went to St. John's.
Actually, we lived in a shitty apartment while I worked and went to school. Now, we live in a great apartment and I support her and myself quite well.
I mean honestly dude. You sound like you are living a decent life. What with going to this "big" school and living off of your mommy and your daddy at the age of 16.
You don't know what I've gone through and the things that I've done.
well you were making fun of me for being stupid and probably having a poor education. you dont know more so stop talking shit about that and i wont say anything about you. and you think we are the same person but u dont even know us.
getting a girl pregnant at the 16....that was very "mature" of you. fucking idiot. your not giving someone a great life when they dont even have a mom
you want my opinion? what does it matter anyway. i mean you always say im wrong about everything and you are ALWAYS right. but whatever i will tell you who i think
Walter "The Big Train" Johnson
he had 12 years of 20 wins or more and also won 30 games in consecutive years
he won 411 games, not to mention an mlb record 110 shutouts in his career an 86 scoreless inning streak, which was broken 40 years later
and also 3,500+ strikeouts, (oh and a 100 MPH fastball)
yeah it was 86 innings actually. can you tell me otherwise? you asked for what who i thought who was the best pitcher of all time. and i happened to name walter johnson. and one more thing. i bet way more people would agree with me before they think pedro was the best. your pathetic
your the only dumbass who ive even heard mention pedro as one of the best of all time. maybe the best of his era. but that era was too short. 5 good seasons doesnt count when your talking about the best in HISTORY
yeah u really got me on the 86 scoreless inning streak. got me good. like i care, lets just ignore the other facts that i said, because everyone knows wins dont mean shit. and according to experts like yourself..BA is the worst stat to go by
Oh my God. I'm sorry for using the word God in my comments. How could I ever use God in my comments? God, I can't believe I could've done that. Well...God, that just tears me up inside.
I do research for baseball-reference and several baseball websites, as well as occasionally write for the New York Daily News. So I'm around computers all day at work.
You keep asserting that I have no life, yet you always, always, always reply back to me. You keep telling me you are 16, so shouldn't you be doing something other than losing arguments and making fun of someone's family?
Albert Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, David Wright, Kevin Youkilis, and Mark Teixeira all suck compared to Joe Mauer. No, Joe Mauer is far and away better than all those guys.
Yeah, it sure is pathetic and embarrasing.
Not the person that gets destroyed in several arguments by the "pathetic" person. Not the person that feels the need to talk on and on and on about another person's kid. No, that's not pathetic at all.
Triple Crowns are not strictly personal achievements.
Various factors go along with leading the league in average, home runs, and RBIs.
It all depends on the ballpark you play in, if you have guys that get on base a lot, where you hit in the lineup, who you hit in behind, how well the rest of the league is doing, and it goes on and on...
You could win the TC by going .310/30/105. While that line is impressive, it's not otherworldly. It all depends on what the rest of baseball is doing.
yeah thats because barry bonds is one of the best hitters of all time jackass. you dont get a lot of walks if your a bad hitter. especially for him he was such a dangerous hitter that teams didnt want him to beat them. getting walks like that is part of being a great hitter. so yeah his AVG showed how good of a hitter he was. but you act like he wasnt that good just because walks dont count as at bats.
Nobody can be this stupid, or have this thick of a skull.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY NOT BEING GOOD HITTERS.
I wrote, of course you chose not to read, that average is misleading because if you walk a ton (and no, not every player that draws tons of walks are great hitters) your at-bats rapidly decrease.
Ichiro hit .372 in 2004. Barry Bonds hit .370 in 2002. Bonds had 113 fewer hits, yet had nearly the same average.
yeah theyre both great hitters so whats your point? you act like AVG is not important at all when determining a great hitter. instead you guy by some stupid made up stats by a baseball historian
and one more thing..you make fun of Joe Morgan? hahaha yeah making fun of one of the best hitting 2nd basemen of all time really shows how pathetic you are. i think he knows a thing or 2 about hitting so dont be making fun of someone for listening to him
Just because he's one of the greatest second basemen of all-time, does not mean he knows how to do anything outside of play the game. He failed as a manager, and he's an abysmal broadcaster and commentator.
"instead you guy by"
Hmm, it's pretty much impossible to decipher what you were trying to say there.
Average is not nearly as important as you "idiots" make it out to be. It's misleading, because there could be a hitter who gets 220 hits in 660 at-bats and one who has 160 in 450.
so what AVG is AVG getting hits is what makes a great hitter and thats what it goes by. walks and sac flys go into every average its just part of the game get over it u fuckin clown
and by the way you wrote "idiots" in that sentence was NOT proper grammar
I used quotation marks, why? Because it's obvious that you and MNTwins are the same person, so I'm not going to act like you are different people. It's very proper grammar.
Again, you call me a "fuckin clown", and yet earlier you were saying how important batting average is, and...I proved you wrong (as usual).
They go into average? Not batting average!
By your logic, Pete Rose is the greatest of all-time because he has the most hits.
well you tell us to not say shit about your life cuz we dont know you. stop saying shit about us because you dont know us dumbass. We are different people we are just good friends. if you dont understand that then dont be acting like you know us and we wont say stuff about you.
just look at mauers career AVG and OBP and you will get a good idea that he is a top 5 hitter in the game
no its not a difference. you bitch at us for asking one question about your life. But then when 2 people comment you you are a dumbass about it and just say its the same person. We arent the same person i dont know why the fuck you think we are.
What a good guy we have here. Tex is awesome .. I think hes the MVP for me this year ! Jeter,rodriguez,teixeira for sure,martin,cano,granderson,swicher,gardner........what a great team.
Mikhael1320 1 month ago
HELP SAVE MARK TEXIERA!!!!!!!! MY FAVORITE GUY EVER!!!!GET THE WORD OUT!!!!
abaginskinj 3 months ago
He is Guyanaese my peeps......from South America....not spanish but from indian roots from india!
spectervisions1 6 months ago
The best man in baseball switch-handed batting. Go Yankees!
VideoGamePhenomHD 7 months ago 4
People really look at teixteria then prince william their faces are identical
wintersnap1313 9 months ago
@norjak71 I am one of the biggest Yankee fans the biggest is my granny and we live in Canada dummy in Winnipeg reply if u know where that is cause Teixeira owns Cabrera like Cabrera might be good but Teixeira owns first base and u hate him cause u wish u could play as good as him
wintersnap1313 9 months ago
"Hey Mark, how's our ass taste?"
Love,
Elvis, Neftali, and the rest of the Texas Rangers.
tbehmer7 1 year ago
@tbehmer7 How does A-Rod's dick taste?
TittyTittyBangBangXX 8 months ago
he looks like a horse. biggest sellout, texas is getting the last laugh though
thejayhogart 1 year ago
he looks like a horse
thejayhogart 1 year ago
Well he is doing a good Job and to tell you the truth some players who the sign or get traded to Yankees sink or swim. He is doing good.
Wehategod 1 year ago
I both hate and idolize his wife. He's devastatingly gorgeous.
bronxbaby02 1 year ago 2
TRAITOR!!!
rescuechick81 1 year ago
YOU SOLD OUT
xxmcneilxx 1 year ago
As much as I would like to see either Jeter or Teixeira to get the MVP, Mauer will win it. Keep in mind after Morneau went down Mauer have to carry the Twins to the playoffs, if he went down the Twins would've been screwed.
iamhungey12345 2 years ago
ok first off twins got lucky, they blow! joe mauer is good but Mark it better, Jeter is the same TEX FOR MVP!
Derek0Jeter2 2 years ago
mauer will win mvp no doubt
leway903 2 years ago
MVP.
genesisandpower 2 years ago 13
without a doubt... mvp...mvp...mvp...mvp
avonbarksdale420 2 years ago 8
@avonbarksdale420 lmfao...mvp? you cant win mvp by being shitty lol. nice signing. total failure. want a real first basemen? miguel cabrera.
norjak71 1 year ago
@norjak71 way to come in, over a year later, and make such a valid point. When the comment was made, during the 2009 season, that wouldve been the time to way in. And i dont see how the mvp (Miguel LOL Cabrera) can play for a team that doesnt see the post season.... but thanks for that, whatever it was
avonbarksdale420 1 year ago
@avonbarksdale420 last time i checked that wasnt a category for mvp consieration (playing on a playoff team) lol. moron.
norjak71 1 year ago
@norjak71 thats true, but whats the definition of Value? How much value do you have, when your team cant even make it to the playoffs in the worst division in baseball? Or are you just a stat-jerker? If so, then look up his defensive stats, since he is just mediocre.. And the moron part? really, or are u just that immature? Anyway, back to the first sentence of the first reply. Way to make an argument against a comment from 2009, "moron".
avonbarksdale420 1 year ago
@norjak71 ahhh never fucking mind. i see from visiting ur page that u must have slipped off your pms meds, and decided to troll abunch of yankee boards, just wanting some sort of attention thrown at you. Enjoy digging up year old comments, and trolling yankee comment boards. No response necessary, and it definitely will not warrant one from me... Got rings? nope?! we do though :)
avonbarksdale420 1 year ago
@avonbarksdale420 guess wat...you didnt win this year, and like i tell all dumbass yankee fans, no one outside new york cares :) if you didnt win this year, it doesnt matter, like how you say "26" every year for 9 years til you won "27" lol. truly pathetic hahaha. and cabrera owns teixeria. and i mean OWNS
norjak71 1 year ago
@norjak71 I'm not even a Yankees fan but I'm going to reply just so I can tell you how wrong you are. You say that no one outside NY cares? Actually they do, the Yankees have the most fans in baseball and a ton of people are Yankees fans that don't live in NY, so your saying they don't care about the Yankees? Cabrera owns Teixeira? lol hardly, if your talking about Miguel Cabrera, Texeira is a much better fielder than Cabrera and Teixeira is a good hitter, all around Teixeira is better.
southsidesoxside 1 year ago
He is a very good speaker. very formal
newmindandsoul1 2 years ago
to me, it comes down to, when u got risp in a clutch at bat, or when their is a tough defensive play that needs to be made, those are the important stats. RIght now, as a lifetime yankees fan, i still put jeters reliability at short above any defensive player in the bigs. As far as clutch, its very tough to decide whos the best anymore, i mean 3 years ago it was obviously big papi, but now, there are clutch hitters on every team.but honestly, we arent halfway thru yet. But im just glad we turned
avonbarksdale420 2 years ago
our team around. now if the pitching could get more consistent, and if girardi knew his ass from his elbow id be happy. regardless, long season left, we will see how it shapes out. its just been a very interesting season... SIDE NOTE---- Rip Steve McNair, a class act, and he died young, but like they say... only the good do. we will never forget ya Air McNair... i know i know this isnt a titans, ravens, or football board. but ph uck it, i think anyone who jokes about this should die SLOW
avonbarksdale420 2 years ago
i just remember a twins fan talkin about how the yanks dont beat the sox... which this season has been true, but i havent seen a post stating that the twins are still 3rd in a weak division, while we are neck and neck with the second best team in the bigs. Hey third place, ready to talk about how much we suck again? 0-6, lookin for ANOTHER sweep against the stellar, al central run of the pack team. and dang cc and aj and teixera really do suck too, what a way to put karmas long one in ya azz
avonbarksdale420 2 years ago
avon who do you think is the best hitter in the mlb and where do you rank mauer???
StraightCash081 2 years ago
mauer is the shining spot on the twins, and hes definitely gonna retire a twin. Hes dedicated to playing there, which says alot in a market where money talks. My opinion, Albert Pujols is the most dominant hitter in the game. As far as catchers go, i would be hard pressed to name too many better presently than mauer. As far as ranking overall, man im drunk. i aint sure but i mean he does do his job well. You both have made good arguments, i dont really put much stock in stats... hes great tho!
avonbarksdale420 2 years ago
I stated many posts ago that they play in an easier division than my Dodgers do, and they are still stinking it up even with their "top five" hitter.
EricAnno 2 years ago
Mauer is top 5 defensive catcher in the game you cant argue with that.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
I already said that he's around the fourth best catcher in the game, so since I have already said that, no I'm not arguing it.
EricAnno 2 years ago
you said 4th best defensive. how bout overall catchers in the game tell me whos better than him please.
and btw hes qualified for the batting leaders now so you cant say shit anymore about not enough at bats
StraightCash081 2 years ago
well, ill give everyone a name to look forward to, and yes, he IS in our farm system. Jesus Montero, he will be posadas predecessor(spelling?) the kid is going to be brilliant. Just hoping Jorge can finish his career healthy and happily by putting the Red Sux on their ass. on a side note.... You do realize this is a circular argument, meaning it starts the same place, and ends the same place, and the wheels on the bus keep turning.
avonbarksdale420 2 years ago
Brian McCann is the best overall catcher in the game, Russell Martin is the best defensive catcher in the game, and Joe Mauer is probably top three for both.
I never said that he didn't qualify for it. In fact, my exact words were that he has the fewest at-bats out of any batter that QUALIFIES for the batting title. Then again, you never properly read what I write, so it doesn't suprise me.
EricAnno 2 years ago
no you have said that he didnt qualify it before. but then again you are too stupid to admit that.
you actually think brian mccann is better than mauer? hahaha you are so stupid. How could you even say that? your so pathetic its just unbelievable
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Go ahead. Show me where I said that he didn't qualify. My exact words were:
"He has the fewest at-bats and games played out of every player that QUALIFIES for the league lead in any offensive category"
Yes, Brian McCann is better than Mauer. Sorry you are too busy blowing Joe Mauer to notice that.
EricAnno 2 years ago
no one gives a shit how many AB's hes had. bottom line is he has met the required PA's to be a league leader in BA and thats all that matters.
just look at their fuckin stats you moron. any jackass who knows baseball would say Mauer is better than Mccann. Mccann isnt even starting in the All star game. your so damn stupid
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Once again, you go back to All-Star games. I mean, seriously, you do know that the All-Star games are MEANINGLESS, right? Mike Schmidt retired mid-season and was elected to the All-Star game. All-Star games mean shit, but whatever. If that's your best reason, go ahead and use it.
McCann has more home runs, more runs driven in (since you were using those stats earler), has more extra-base hits, and has a far better SLG. Plus, McCann has played in fewer games and posts comparable stats.
EricAnno 2 years ago
the only stat that Mccann is better is SLG, every other stat mauer owns Mccann. then on defense Mauer has a better fielding percentage, far less erros,(Mccann has double the errors) and throws more players out stealing, and less past balls
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, because errors and fielding percentage are by far the best stats to use, and passed balls (which are very differentiate from wild pitches). You've got the CS%, but you failed to mention that McCann consistently has a better RF/g and RF/9, and the fact that McCann plays in a much speedier division (the NL East has stolen 2,090 bases over the past four seasons, while the AL Central has stolen only 1,625, and you should see the totals).
And if you adjust the stats, Mauer doesn't "own".
EricAnno 2 years ago
i never said they were the best stats to use moron. the fact that mccann has over double the errros that mauer has committed should tell you a little something. and i forgot fielding percentage doesnt mean shit they should just get rid of that stat. Mauer is a better defensive catcher your so fucking clueless about everything. any jackass knows mauer is a better overall catcher. mccann hitting stats are weaker than Mauers
StraightCash081 2 years ago
If you adjust Mauer's stats through his first 550 games, Mauer doesn't hold too much of an edge over McCann.
Fielding percentage is a terrible stat. Of course, if you say it's not a bad stat, it apparently isn't. And by that logic, Joe Mauer's 2008 season was better than Pudge Rodriguez's 1992 season because Mauer had fewer errors and a better fielding percentage. Once again, McCann's RF/g and RF/9 are consistently better than Mauer's.
EricAnno 2 years ago
so what if his RF/g and RF/9 is better than mauers. you act like those stats alone make him a better overall catcher than mauer like you said he was. thats all you have to say to make him better. your such a dumbass
StraightCash081 2 years ago
You don't even know what RF/g and RF/9 are, do you?
That's all I've said? Really? No.
I said that once you adjust the stats, they are quite comparable. Of course, you choose not to do so...what a suprise.
EricAnno 2 years ago
tell me how you are going to "adjust" their stats to make them comparable. stop saying bull shit you dumbass mauer has better offensive stats and thats all that needs to be said, hes a better player
StraightCash081 2 years ago
I already explained this to you, but apparently your tiny brain cannot comprehend it. If you adjust (really no reason for quotation marks, idiot) their stats through their first 550 games (as Joe Mauer has quite a bit more service time than McCann) then their stats are comparable.
But, of course, anything I say is bullshit (it's one word, little fella), despite the fact that I have been right SO many times.
EricAnno 2 years ago
Mauers stats were still all better. so your stupid its unbelievable. he has a better average, OBP, draws almost twice as many walks, strikes out less, better OPS, more than double SB
if you think mccann is better overall than mauer seriously? give me a break
StraightCash081 2 years ago
"if you think mccann is better overall than mauer seriously? give me a break"
Yeah...that makes sense.
You obviously didn't bother to look at the stats...not suprising.
EricAnno 2 years ago
i have looked at the stats and mauer leads mccann is every catagory except hR, RBI, and SLG, but home runs and RBI's are very misleading and dont mean you are a better hitter. you are so stupid you just refuse to look at all the other stats and how mauer is better in every category. the only thing you have said about mccann is a better RF/9 and RF/G. those two stats alone dont make him better than mauer. your an idiot
StraightCash081 2 years ago
mauer is sooo fucking good.
MNTwins033 2 years ago
money talks
the yankees are destroying baseball
gntluvr 2 years ago 2
sell-out.
Y2JFAN811 2 years ago
You know whats pathetic??? A grown man commenting youtube vids all day at "work". That makes me sick
MNTwins033 2 years ago
Ooooooh, I make you sick? That's too bad.
Stop constantly responding to me then.
EricAnno 2 years ago
hes not a grown man hes like 24..or so he says. but he tries to act like a grown man with an 8 year old daughter already
StraightCash081 2 years ago
ericanno has given up it looks like. he knows he already got OWNED in the agrument so hes thrown in the towel
StraightCash081 2 years ago
No, I'm sick and tired of you "two" idiots bringing up my daughter and my personal life.
I've already won all of these arguments. End of story. I've posted stats, names, and whatever else that you have failed to do. I have proven you wrong on dozens of occasions, and you know nothing about baseball. You know literally nothing about baseball. Nothing, nada, zip. So, when I destroy you, you resort to personal and childish insults and talk about my background and family.
So, I win. Period.
EricAnno 2 years ago
you know nothing nada zip about us or what we do. so theres one thing your wrong about. you think you know it all. just because you work for baseball reference and make 10 bucks an hour doesnt mean you know everything about baseball. your just too pathetic and ignorant. you clearly dont know anything about baseball when you say pedro was the best of all time
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Oh, that's too bad. I already said I win. So, this is done. Sorry that you wasted your time.
EricAnno 2 years ago
oh thats too bad. no one would agree with you on any of your opinions so i dont know where your getting your random stuff from. We already OWNED you in everything we've said and you just sit and cry about it.
OWNED, WE WIN!!!!!
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, you're right. Absolutely nobody ever agreed with me.
Sorry man, this is over. I already said that I won. Game over man, game over. It's too late. I already owned you and this discussion is over. You can keep writing if you want to, but we all know that I won and you were owned, repeatedly.
Sorry man. Them's the facts.
EricAnno 2 years ago
all you did was mention some stupid facts by bill james that are totally useless to anything we were talking about. any dumbass knows that pedro wasnt the best pitcher ever so we owned you on that one. and you think Mauer sucks. why dont you go parent your 8 year old daughter instead of losing every youtube argument
StraightCash081 2 years ago
So many errors in this comment, so little time.
1.) SABR stats are a hell of a lot better than batting average and RBIs, which you "two" idiots love to use
2.) I never said Pedro was the greatest. I said he was among the greatest and you never told me why he wasn't. (And for the record, MNTwins wasn't even involved in that "argument")
3.) I never once said Mauer sucks. I said you are overrating him and named five hitters that are better than him.
4.) I win every argument on youtube.
EricAnno 2 years ago
you said martinez was the best of all time. stop lying bitch.
im overrating Mauer? in what way. your acting like hes the most overrated player. you said ryan braun is better which is just a joke. and for the record MNTwins has been in this whole argument. i get a kick out of fuckin oblivious you are. you think that we are the same people. hahaha just how pathetic you are.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Please, please, I am begging you. Tell me where I said that Pedro was the greatest of all-time. Please, go find it, copy my words and paste them here.
You are saying he's the best hitter in baseball, even though I posted five hitters who are better. You also said he was the best hitter in the game because he's won two batting titles, and you act like batting average is a great stat.
MNTwins was not involved in the Pedro argument. He was not.
Please, show me what I said about Pedro.
EricAnno 2 years ago
one of the 3 or 4 greatest of all time? Thats one the the more pathetic things you have said so far. so how come Mauer is the first catcher to ever win a batting title? you act like its not even hard and if it doesnt show good good a hitter is then why have no other catchers ever won the title??
StraightCash081 2 years ago
The fact that you are judging a hitter by batting titles is hilarious. You probably think that Bill Mueller was the best hitter in the game when he won his batting title!
Why have no other catchers won a batting title? Well, first of all, league hitting is crucial when talking about batting titles. Mike Piazza, the greatest hitting catcher of all-time, hit .362 and placed third. Mickey Cochrane hit .357 and .349 and placed fourth and fifth, respectively.
EricAnno 2 years ago
so basically your saying that your a dumbass?
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Typical response. I prove you wrong on something, and I own you in various ways, and you call me a dumbass.
So, to answer your question, no I am not. I'm saying that YOU are a dumbass.
Do you get it now? Or should I sound it out for you? Make it a little more simple?
EricAnno 2 years ago
sound it out for me please. you say that every player is better than Mauer only no one believes you because your full of none sense. first catcher to win 2 batting titles and currently batting .392. you name off players that you think are better than mauer who strike out twice as much as him
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Oh, so now you are judging a player by how little he strikes out?
Well, that must mean that Juan Pierre is a top ten hitter in baseball!
When have I said that "every" player was better than him? Hmm?
I named five specific players that were better than him, and I cited specific reasons as to why they are better.
No one believes me? All you've got is another little immature fanboy to ride your dick.
By the way, what is "none sense"?
EricAnno 2 years ago
please ladies. Mauer is awesome, top 3 catcher in MLB; best this season. Awesome batter, but there are plenty better than him. Pedro used to be a top 10 pitcher in baseball but is not a top 10 of all time.
brannden1 2 years ago
I would very much love to see you justify leaving Pedro Martinez out of the top ten.
Please, do tell.
EricAnno 2 years ago
well non sense would be saying that Pedro is a top 3 or 4 hitter of all time. or saying that victor martinez is better than mauer. or saying that Morneau is a better hitter than Mauer
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Well, it would be "none sense" to say that batting average is a great stat to determine a hitter's ability, to say that Joe Morgan/John Kruk/Steve Phillips are experts, to say that Joe Mauer is a top-five hitter in baseball (when I give you five other names and various reasons why they are better) and completely ignore them, and to consider Walter Johnson the greatest pitcher of all-time, give me a false record that he once held and act like it doesn't matter when I prove you very wrong.
EricAnno 2 years ago
you say that Joe Morgan/John Kruk/steve Phillips are just jokes dont you? people that that played the game or coached or managed they must be dumbasses right? instead you go by some made up stats by a random guy and say that those are 'the Best" stats to go by. Batting average is a great stat to determine a hitters ability. i dont see how batting average is a "bad" stat to go by. maybe not the best but its still a great stat. you say im stupid for saying Walter Johnson?who do you thinkis better
StraightCash081 2 years ago
I have said many times that Phillips/Morgan/Kruk are jokes. I'm not the only one who believes so.
A great stat? I've already given you many reasons as to why it's not only misleading, but it's an awful way to judge a hitter by. You never did answer my question either. Hillebrand hit .310 in 2004, Adam Dunn hit .266. Who's the better hitter? Answer me that, please.
Walter Johnson played in an easier era and didn't have to face non-whites. Pedro, Koufax, Seaver, Clemens, Maddux, Johnson...
EricAnno 2 years ago
im not the only one who believes walter johnson is the best pitcher of all time. you think im some idiot for even including him in the top 5. your fuckin pathetic. if one espn analyst says somethimg dumb you just say they are a joke. they know way more about baseball you and a lot of people. as for hillenbrand and dunn. who's the better hitter? why dont you answer that for yourself if you care so much you've asked me that like 10 times already. i dont care about what they did 5 yrs ago
StraightCash081 2 years ago
And again, you avoid answering my question. It has nothing to do with the year, it has to do with the simple fact that Adam Dunn is/was a far, far, far better hitter than Hillebrand ever wanted to be, despite having a batting average fifty points lower. Batting average is misleading, I don't know how to get that through your head.
I never said you were the only one. That's the problem. Dead-ball era players are overrated because it was a much simpler and primitive game without non-whites.
EricAnno 2 years ago
wow your stupid. players get better each generation. in 50 years people will probably be saying that pedro, johnson, koufax, and seaver were overrated because players will always get better, stronger, faster, ect
StraightCash081 2 years ago
I'm stupid?
Walter Johnson played in an era with bigger ballparks, less-than-formidable opponents, whites only, and an otherwise watered-down game. He also had the luxury of pitching from a taller mound. Just ask Bob Gibson and Denny McLain what a taller mound did for them.
And once again, you ignore answering my question.
And Randy Johnson and Pedro played in the toughest offensive era in baseball and utterly dominated the entire game for several years. Same for Clemens and Maddux.
EricAnno 2 years ago
once again i ignore your question? i dont give a fuck about your question ass hole it means nothing to the argument. you sit their and cry because i dont answer your pathetically random questions
StraightCash081 2 years ago
My "pathetically random" question is neither patheic, nor random.
I asked you who was the better hitter. Shea Hillebrand, who had the higher batting average, or Adam Dunn with more home runs, and better OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+. You didn't answer my question because it proves my point that batting average is a very misleading stat.
But of course, you just call it stupid and call me an asshole (it's one whole word, by the way) and say that it means nothing. Of course it doesn't...
EricAnno 2 years ago
i thought the most important stats were the ones that bill james made up?
StraightCash081 2 years ago
They are.
And you talk about me being random.
EricAnno 2 years ago
well if they are then why do u name off 5 other stats. why dont you name off the most important stats for those players dumbass
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Perhaps you should learn to count. I named off four other stats, three of which were invented by Bill James.
I named four stats that are far better measures of a hitter's skill than batting average, and three of them were created by Bill James. You just don't want to admit that I'm right about any of this because it kills your assertion that batting average is a great stat, when in fact it's incredibly misleading, which I have proven dozens of times.
Yeah, and I'm the dumbass.
EricAnno 2 years ago
which proves my point.. joe mauer is a top 5 hitter in the game
StraightCash081 2 years ago
How does that prove anybody's points but mine?
This has nothing to do with Joe Mauer and the fact that he has fewer at-bats and fewer games played than anyone else who qualifies for the league lead in any category.
EricAnno 2 years ago
so what? no one else had that high of numbers thru as many games as he has played. if he played for the yankees and got the attention the yankees get you would say hes top 5 since your so pathetic
StraightCash081 2 years ago
What are you talking about?
This has nothing to do with what team he plays for. It has to do with the simple fact that he has fewer at-bats and games played than any other player that qualifies for any offensive category. This has less than nothing to do with him playing for the Twins. I have said numerous times that Hanley Ramirez is the best hitter in the game. His team's market is smaller than the Twins.
It's impossible talking to someone as stupid as you.
EricAnno 2 years ago
you think hanley ramirez is the best hitter in the game? hahahaha thats a good one. its pretty damn obvious that the best hitter is Pujols. any dumbass who knows anything about baseball could tell you that one
StraightCash081 2 years ago
And yet you are the idiot that said that Joe Mauer was the best hitter in the game.
I have stated various times that Pujols is the best hitter in the game. I meant to say that Hanley is by far the most impressive overall player in the game, which he most certainly is. If his defense was better, he could very well be the best shortstop since Alex Rodriguez.
EricAnno 2 years ago
If your talking overall then Mauer is top 5 in that too
StraightCash081 2 years ago
No, he really isn't.
He's about the fourth best defensive catcher, he is not a good baserunner (I.E. doesn't have great speed), he doesn't walk a lot (averages 85 a season), never has a lot of extra-base hits or a good slugging percentage, his OPS has been over .900 once, his OPS+ is very unimpressive for a "top 5" player, he grounds into a lot of double plays, and he's never shown great power (I don't care how many opposite field home runs he has this season).
Not a top five player.
EricAnno 2 years ago
where do you find these stats that say he is the 4th best defensive catcher? and that hes not a good baserunner? 85 walks is good for a non power hitter actually. but your too dumb to realize that. hes one of the most patient hitters in the game.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
For the past three seasons, Russel Martin has had a higher RF/9 and RF/g every single season. All of the Molina brothers have posted better defensive stats than Mauer. Ivan Rodriguez still posts a supremely better CS% every single season. Of course, you'll probably just want to use stupid stats like FP and errors.
85 walks is good? No, it really isn't "good" for any type of player. It's decent.
Also, you are too stupid to realize (or look at stats) that Mauer has never walked 85 times.
EricAnno 2 years ago
oh im sorry he hasnt ever walked 85 times. thats his 162 game average. my bad. you really called me out on that one. your right. mauer grounds into tons of double plays. and he really sucks at baserunning too. yeah i bet you watch the Twins a lot living in Brooklyn and working all day and parenting your 8 year old daughter. Mauer averages more walks per 162 games than Braun, Texeira, Hanley Ramirez, A rod, Justin Morneau, Pedroia, Youkilis
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, let's go ahead and ignore the fact that the rest of the players that you mentioned all have better on-base percentages and play in more games. But, I figured you wouldn't mention that.
This has nothing to do with watching any certain team. Mauer is not a good baserunner. Last year his conversion rate was 50%. He stole one base last year, seven the year before. How does that make him a good baserunner? Mauer has grounded into more than 20 DP in two of the last three seasons.
EricAnno 2 years ago
"let's go ahead and ignore the fact that the rest of the players that you mentioned all have better on-base percentages and play in more games"
what does the number of games you play in have anything to do with making walks less important? the more important number is 162 game average.
and i dont know what the hell your talking about when you say they ALL have better on base percentages when Mauer has the highest career OBP out of every player i named off. good one
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Again, he's played in far fewer games than almost all of the players you mentioned. You're talking about a higher career OBP for a guy who usually plays no more than 140 games and has only played for four full seasons.
"the more important number is 162 game average"
Mauer has never played more than 146 games. Teixeira has done that four times, A-Rod ten times, Hanley three times, Morneau three times. If you play only 140 games a season, your 162-game average increases.
Misleading.
EricAnno 2 years ago
hahahaha all those guys average less than 85 walks per 162 games. all you can say is that mauer hasnt played nearly as many games as those other players. just shut up your the only one that says that as your excuse for saying mauer isnt as good as them. Mauer doesnt play 162 games in a season because he catches and takes more days off. any dumbass would realize that
StraightCash081 2 years ago
That's not the point here, but of course you fail to realize that.
When you play fewer games, regardless of position, you have fewer at-bats. When you have fewer at-bats, you averages go up, any jackass realizes that (except for you obviously).
Joe Mauer has never walked 85 times in a SINGLE SEASON, so his 162-game average is misleading. It's amazing to me that you can't understand that.
It's not an excuse, it's a legitimate fact. The only reason you deny it is because you are a homer.
EricAnno 2 years ago
and another thing. Mauer OBP is higher than all of those guys this season too
StraightCash081 2 years ago
We've already discussed this. He has the fewest at-bats and games played out of all the players that qualify for league leads. Naturally, you either failed to realize that, or you don't want to say that because you know it kills whatever "point" you are trying to make.
EricAnno 2 years ago
your the only person who says that mauer doesnt have enough at bats. no other player had that high of OBP or BA thru as many AB's as he's had so far. no one gives a shit that he hasnt had enough at bats as every other player except you.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Intelligent people do. Unfortunately, youtube is generally filled with morons like yourself.
Again, it's not an excuse. It's a legitimate fact. Out of every player that qualifies for the batting title, Mauer has by far the fewest at-bats and games played.
EricAnno 2 years ago
ohh ok so hes not as good as people who do have more AB's and games? like games has anything to do with how good you are. wow your stupid. hes on his way to another batting title this year again and you cant do shit about it. hahahahahahaha oh i forgot batting titles dont mean anything especially when your hitting .380
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Did I say that he's not as good as any of the other players in my last post? No.
I stated, and it would help if you knew how to read at better than a fourth-grade level, that keep talking about his stats this season, although he has by far the fewest games and at-bats out of any other qualifying Major League player. I've only explained this about a thousand times.
He's hitting .380 with another half of the season to go, but you probably think that there's no way he's not going to hit .380.
EricAnno 2 years ago
well hes about 5 PA's from qualifying so i dont know what your talking about. you act like hes not even close to being able to qualify.
no you didnt he wasnt as good in your LAST POST, but you did say that a little while ago. but your too stupid to realize that
StraightCash081 2 years ago
And you are too stupid to realize that he's not a top-five hitter. But you obviously know nothing about baseball and just have a hard-on for Joe Mauer and the Twins, and because of that you will never shut your mouth.
EricAnno 2 years ago
hes a top 5 hitter. other players might have more power but mauer is a top 5 hitter. you just dont get it do you?
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Other players are better overall players, like the ones that I mentioned, so no, he's not a top five player in the game. You've tried proving it to me, but I shut down every single one of your responses.
It's not me that doesn't get it, it is you my friend.
EricAnno 2 years ago
***Pedro a top 3 or 4 PITCHER****
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Sorry, I'm eight years older than you.
I guess I should be in a retirement home by now, because I'm so old.
EricAnno 2 years ago
Eric you are the biggest idiot i have ever came across. You sit on your ass at "work" and comment youtube videos all day. And to top it off, your not just commenting, your arguing with people. Two 16 year olds. Very mature! Think about that one next time you comment. Get a damn life you loser.
MNTwins033 2 years ago
Age has nothing to do with it. I'm only six years older than you, so it truly doesn't matter.
I'm the biggest idiot that YOU have ever come across? How am I an idiot?
Just about every single thing that I have said has been right. Just because you are too immature and stubborn to see it or admit it, doesn't mean that I wasn't right.
Once again, you have no idea what I do for a living, and you say "work".
You talk about me not having a life...yet you always reply back to me...
EricAnno 2 years ago
so your saying you had a wife 8 years ago and had a daughter with her. so you had her when you were 14?. Thats smart
tell me where i said Bill james "sucks"
tell me where i said Mark Texeira "sucks"
tell me where i said joe morgan was an expert, (i clearly never said that) i just said he knows a thing or 2 about baseball and hitting.(and you think otherwise)
Are you trying to say Walter Johnson/cy Young/ and Nolan Ryan aren't even considerable to be the best pitcher ever?
StraightCash081 2 years ago
"that shitty bill james"
"tex sucks ass"
"you think you know more than experts"
Regarding the above quote, we were talking about Joe Morgan.
I was actually 16, I clearly corrected myself. As if this has anything to do with this argument. My family has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. So...stop talking about it.
Well, let's see...CY and WJ pitched in a MUCH easier era, and NR is the most overrated player, maybe ever.
EricAnno 2 years ago
wow your stupid. who cares what era they pitched in as far as im concerned they were playing the same game under mostly the same rules. you think you know a lot more than hall of fame players dont you? yeah just because you think they are bad doesnt mean they are stupid
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Eric is a dbag who comments all day at "work".
MNTwins033 2 years ago
Dude, seriously.
You talk about how I have no life, yet you never fail to comment back at me.
You still don't know what work I do.
Nobody pays attention to you, and you only make me laugh because of how incredibly low your intelligence must be. I can only imagine what kind of high school would pass someone with such severe stupidity.
All you do is insult my personal life to cover up your own insecurities and personal inadequacies.
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah because i go to one of the bigger high schools in my state with very good academics, but according to you, it must be shitty even though you dont have a clue who i am or where my school is
StraightCash081 2 years ago
When was I ever talking about YOUR education?
I was clearly talking to MNTwins.
That only furthers my suspicions...
EricAnno 2 years ago
well okay, we do go to the same school so its the same thing for him
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure.
Never once, in the last twenty posts, did I bring up whatever "big" high school that YOU went to, and I never criticized YOUR education.
And yet you felt the need to respond as if I was talking to YOU.
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah we actually do. But since you think you know us so well and think we are the same person you can just keep thinking that because your too stupid to realize anything else.
having a kid at age 16, thats comical.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Insulting a person's family because you are getting destroyed in a baseball argument...
...well, that's not even comical. It's just pathetic.
And actually, having a kid at 16 isn't "comical". Especially when you can support that kid and give her a great life.
So yeah, not really comical.
Go ahead though. You can keep talking about my daughter. I know that it's only because you can't deal with your own insecurities.
EricAnno 2 years ago
so at 16 your saying you had your own house and a job that was well paying enough to support a kid and a wife. oh and i assumed you went to school too? or did you drop out of that. having a child at age 16 isnt smart. its comical
what are my insecuirities?
StraightCash081 2 years ago
***at the age of 16***** im sorry for that typing error. please forgive me before you go off on some tangent telling me that no one ever makes mistakes.. oh wait, it sounds like you made a HUGE mistake when you were 16, getting a girl pregnant. you cant tell me that that was planned.
MNTwins033 2 years ago
I did go to school actually. I finished high school and went to St. John's.
Actually, we lived in a shitty apartment while I worked and went to school. Now, we live in a great apartment and I support her and myself quite well.
I mean honestly dude. You sound like you are living a decent life. What with going to this "big" school and living off of your mommy and your daddy at the age of 16.
You don't know what I've gone through and the things that I've done.
So...leave it alone.
EricAnno 2 years ago
well you were making fun of me for being stupid and probably having a poor education. you dont know more so stop talking shit about that and i wont say anything about you. and you think we are the same person but u dont even know us.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, ok, and it's not like you and MNTwins have been calling me a "fuckin dumbass" almost every post since this argument started.
Whatever. Let's just leave the personal insults out of this.
And that means no more calling me a "fuckin dumbass" either.
EricAnno 2 years ago
getting a girl pregnant at the 16....that was very "mature" of you. fucking idiot. your not giving someone a great life when they dont even have a mom
MNTwins033 2 years ago
Oooooooooooooooooh, nice one.
Gosh, you're just hurting my feelings soooooooooo much.
Oh please, please stop.
Yeah, she's got a great life.
EricAnno 2 years ago
you want my opinion? what does it matter anyway. i mean you always say im wrong about everything and you are ALWAYS right. but whatever i will tell you who i think
Walter "The Big Train" Johnson
he had 12 years of 20 wins or more and also won 30 games in consecutive years
he won 411 games, not to mention an mlb record 110 shutouts in his career an 86 scoreless inning streak, which was broken 40 years later
and also 3,500+ strikeouts, (oh and a 100 MPH fastball)
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, highly doubt it was 100 miles an hour.
Oh really? An 86-inning scoreless streak? Really? You sure about that? 86, huh?
Well, you are obviously wrong about quite a few things.
Hmm, wins...wins are your first argument.
Yeah, nice. Wins are the absolute best way to measure a pitcher's greatness.
Still doesn't tell me why he's better than Pedro Martinez and Lefty Grove.
Walter pitched in a pitching-favored era, often called the "dead-ball era".
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah it was 86 innings actually. can you tell me otherwise? you asked for what who i thought who was the best pitcher of all time. and i happened to name walter johnson. and one more thing. i bet way more people would agree with me before they think pedro was the best. your pathetic
owned
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Doubt it.
And actually, yes, I can tell you otherwise.
A.) Walter pitched 56 2/3 scoreless innings
B.) How do I know that? Because Don Drysdale pitched 58 straight scoreless innings in 1968
C.) Orel Hershiser now holds the record with 59
No one has even gotten close to 86, so I have no idea where you are getting your information from...but I would get it elsewhere.
EricAnno 2 years ago
your the only dumbass who ive even heard mention pedro as one of the best of all time. maybe the best of his era. but that era was too short. 5 good seasons doesnt count when your talking about the best in HISTORY
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah, let's go ahead and ignore the fact that you were totally off on Johnson's scoreless streak.
Really?
Look up "Pedro Martinez Greatest" on google, and see how many websites rank Pedro among the greatest of all-time.
Maybe the best of his era? Seriously?
He was unquestionably the greatest of his era, and he's easily one of the three or four greatest of all-time.
EricAnno 2 years ago
i bet theres more than say walter johnson was the best. you should be reading your daughter a bed time story anyway and its past your bedtime
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Past my bedtime?
Once again, let's ignore the fact that you were totally wrong on your repeated assertion that Johnson had an 86-inning scoreless streak.
Experts don't. Then again, experts also know that batting average is a misleading stat, but you wouldn't know anything about that.
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah u really got me on the 86 scoreless inning streak. got me good. like i care, lets just ignore the other facts that i said, because everyone knows wins dont mean shit. and according to experts like yourself..BA is the worst stat to go by
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Oh, my God.
You can't possibly think that wins are a great way to judge a pitcher.
Please tell me you don't think that.
And you were quite sure of yourself when you brought up his false 86 scoreless innings streak, so you obviously cared until you were proven wrong.
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah you proved me wrong good job. you just keep talking about it even though it doesnt matter.
dont use the word God in comments its not appropriate to use in public
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Oh my God. I'm sorry for using the word God in my comments. How could I ever use God in my comments? God, I can't believe I could've done that. Well...God, that just tears me up inside.
Well, Goddamn it, I think I'm good now!
EricAnno 2 years ago
your probably at work now? what do you do for work? oh thats right you probably sit on your ass all day and comment these video every 30 mins.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
I do research for baseball-reference and several baseball websites, as well as occasionally write for the New York Daily News. So I'm around computers all day at work.
You keep asserting that I have no life, yet you always, always, always reply back to me. You keep telling me you are 16, so shouldn't you be doing something other than losing arguments and making fun of someone's family?
EricAnno 2 years ago
its really too bad that you didnt get killed from the IRA. fucking asshole.
MNTwins033 2 years ago
You probably mean "by the IRA".
Yeah, I know, it's a shame.
Then again, according to you, there hasn't been one since the '20s.
EricAnno 2 years ago
We play baseball every day in the summer. but according to you, we apparently dont have a life.
btw, you cant live in an apartment by yourself when your 16
StraightCash081 2 years ago
She was 18 and the name on the lease was her father's. So, yeah, stop trying.
You say I don't have a life, yet you always respond back to me.
Do you wanna get back to baseball, or are you just going to keep trying to tell me about my personal life?
EricAnno 2 years ago
its pretty obvious you dont have a life. Having a kid at age 16? how pathetic and embarrassing.
back to baseball. last time i checked Mauer was a top 5 hitter in the MLB
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Yeah.
Albert Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, David Wright, Kevin Youkilis, and Mark Teixeira all suck compared to Joe Mauer. No, Joe Mauer is far and away better than all those guys.
Yeah, it sure is pathetic and embarrasing.
Not the person that gets destroyed in several arguments by the "pathetic" person. Not the person that feels the need to talk on and on and on about another person's kid. No, that's not pathetic at all.
EricAnno 2 years ago
mark teixeira is a beast
broldan94 2 years ago
Triple Crowns are not strictly personal achievements.
Various factors go along with leading the league in average, home runs, and RBIs.
It all depends on the ballpark you play in, if you have guys that get on base a lot, where you hit in the lineup, who you hit in behind, how well the rest of the league is doing, and it goes on and on...
You could win the TC by going .310/30/105. While that line is impressive, it's not otherworldly. It all depends on what the rest of baseball is doing.
EricAnno 2 years ago
tell me a player who hit .390 with only 140 hits
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Go back and read what I wrote, idiot.
I said that, theoretically, you COULD hit .390 with only 140 hits.
Barry Bonds hit .370, .342, and .362 with fewer than 150 hits in each season.
That's why batting average is extremely misleading, jackass.
If you walk a ton, like Bonds, and Ruth, and Williams did, then you could hit over .350 every year without cracking 195 hits.
So, in theory, you could have 50 fewer hits than another player and still have a higher average than him.
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah thats because barry bonds is one of the best hitters of all time jackass. you dont get a lot of walks if your a bad hitter. especially for him he was such a dangerous hitter that teams didnt want him to beat them. getting walks like that is part of being a great hitter. so yeah his AVG showed how good of a hitter he was. but you act like he wasnt that good just because walks dont count as at bats.
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Oh...my...God...
Nobody can be this stupid, or have this thick of a skull.
I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY NOT BEING GOOD HITTERS.
I wrote, of course you chose not to read, that average is misleading because if you walk a ton (and no, not every player that draws tons of walks are great hitters) your at-bats rapidly decrease.
Ichiro hit .372 in 2004. Barry Bonds hit .370 in 2002. Bonds had 113 fewer hits, yet had nearly the same average.
Get it? Idiot?
MISLEADING.
EricAnno 2 years ago
yeah theyre both great hitters so whats your point? you act like AVG is not important at all when determining a great hitter. instead you guy by some stupid made up stats by a baseball historian
and one more thing..you make fun of Joe Morgan? hahaha yeah making fun of one of the best hitting 2nd basemen of all time really shows how pathetic you are. i think he knows a thing or 2 about hitting so dont be making fun of someone for listening to him
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Just because he's one of the greatest second basemen of all-time, does not mean he knows how to do anything outside of play the game. He failed as a manager, and he's an abysmal broadcaster and commentator.
"instead you guy by"
Hmm, it's pretty much impossible to decipher what you were trying to say there.
Average is not nearly as important as you "idiots" make it out to be. It's misleading, because there could be a hitter who gets 220 hits in 660 at-bats and one who has 160 in 450.
EricAnno 2 years ago
so what AVG is AVG getting hits is what makes a great hitter and thats what it goes by. walks and sac flys go into every average its just part of the game get over it u fuckin clown
and by the way you wrote "idiots" in that sentence was NOT proper grammar
StraightCash081 2 years ago
Uhhh, how is it not proper grammar?
I used quotation marks, why? Because it's obvious that you and MNTwins are the same person, so I'm not going to act like you are different people. It's very proper grammar.
Again, you call me a "fuckin clown", and yet earlier you were saying how important batting average is, and...I proved you wrong (as usual).
They go into average? Not batting average!
By your logic, Pete Rose is the greatest of all-time because he has the most hits.
EricAnno 2 years ago
well you tell us to not say shit about your life cuz we dont know you. stop saying shit about us because you dont know us dumbass. We are different people we are just good friends. if you dont understand that then dont be acting like you know us and we wont say stuff about you.
just look at mauers career AVG and OBP and you will get a good idea that he is a top 5 hitter in the game
StraightCash081 2 years ago
There's a substantial difference between saying that you are the same person (it's fairly obvious that you are) and saying something like...
"wheres the mommy? did she leave your sorry ass?"
or
"i feel sorry for your daughter"
or
"the fuckin IRA? give me a break"
No, you are right. It's fair for you to talk shit about my personal life, because you make it ridiculously obvious that you are the same person.
Joe Mauer has played for five full seasons and less than 2,250 AB.
EricAnno 2 years ago
no its not a difference. you bitch at us for asking one question about your life. But then when 2 people comment you you are a dumbass about it and just say its the same person. We arent the same person i dont know why the fuck you think we are.
StraightCash081 2 years ago