Your hatred is clouding your vision, and blinding you to the suffering that your government and army causes Palestinian society. That suffering is, by all objective critera, far greater.
Yes, you feel pain for your suffering. It is sad that you have let that pain turn into hatred, and that the hatred blinds you in a way that perpetuates the cycle of violence. I truly hope you learn to see past your hatred someday, open your eyes, and approach this difficult subject in a level-headed manner.
You wanna know what a "small sample" of palestinian hatred looks like? Its when a bus full of children going to school is targeted by a FUCKING suicide bomber who believes that his only chance of going to heaven and banging 72 virgins is by blowing up those little children apart. THATS FUCKING HATRED!!!!
so pull your head out of your ass, take a good shower and GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY! 'nuff said.
[to iraq2008] Um... I think we need to find a solution that protects the rights and dignity of everyone living there. Now, you're originally from Baghdad, so an emotional response is understandable... But I'll also ask that you try to see beyond stereotypes, and see people instead.
Of course, beowulf333 doesn't have the cojones to tell us anything about himself in his profile, so in his case there's not much there for us to see!
the middle east wants the west's money. They want the west's technology. They don't want our partisipation. That's our price. If you don't like it, don't buy a car, a computer, etc... Boycot the wests technology.
Most people there are overjoyed to have trade with the West. Don't take my word for it; ask Coca Cola Palestine. I'm sure they'd answer any polite inquiries. Their website is at nbc-pal.com. Catchy theme song, eh?
Heck, they'd love balanced, fair participaiton from us on the political level, too. For many reasons, we've substantially failed at that. That's a big subject; I'll refer you to places like Juan Cole's blog for the politics.
[to beowulf333] Wow - so much hatred and spite, in such a small comment! And all I did is call the Palestinian city I was standing in part of Palestine. I could go into the politics, but I won't; I'll just suggest that you try to look beyond stereotypes, and see people instead. Best of luck to you.
when a group of people (israel and palestine) can only see resorting their differences through the utter destruction of the other equally on both sides, they themselves deserve whichever fate they receive. Unfortunate for Palestine. Once Palestine as a state and its people decide to be the bigger person, then they will deserve help and the respect they are seeking. Their continued violence does not warrent such respect.
Interesting that you're applying your argument to both sides, whereas your first comment was more one-sided. But putting that aside, you're characterization of what Palestinians think is a grossly inaccurate caricature. I've lived there for months, and this image, so common in the West, is false.
But don't trust me - the information is all out there, if you look for it, including polling data that utterly refutes the commonly-held stereotype you express.
Yes, your right, my origional comment was ambiguous. However, i understand that hamas does humanitarian work, but they are also active in illicit activities. It is true that given any group of people 90% of them are nice, kind, hard working people. It's those 10% that give them a bad name. The Palestinians aren't doing anything about those 10%. What else are we in the west supposed to believe when this group of people stand idlely by while this 10% of people give them a bad name?
What makes you think they aren't doing anything? My friend, you try organizing politically under a forty-year military occupation, then come back and tell us about it. Since you mention Hamas, it's been quite well documented that the occupying power (Israel) fostered their creation, and their rise.
But I digress. Before you conclude that they aren't doing anything, I urge you to become better informed. They have been, are, and continue to do many things. You just haven't heard about it.
Thanks, but the only people I saw around there who would call Nablus part of "Israel" were some of the less bright checkpoint soldiers. These days, you have to be an extremist to actually think Nablus is part of Israel. Of course, this in no way lessens Israel's obligations under the Geneva convention!
cool video
adamfoerster 5 years ago
[to moomtaz part 1]
You see numnuts, I am venting my hatred through words, while palestian, arab and muslim hatred manifests itself through acts of terror.
E2141 5 years ago
Your hatred is clouding your vision, and blinding you to the suffering that your government and army causes Palestinian society. That suffering is, by all objective critera, far greater.
Yes, you feel pain for your suffering. It is sad that you have let that pain turn into hatred, and that the hatred blinds you in a way that perpetuates the cycle of violence. I truly hope you learn to see past your hatred someday, open your eyes, and approach this difficult subject in a level-headed manner.
moomtastic 5 years ago
[to moomtaz part 2]
You wanna know what a "small sample" of palestinian hatred looks like? Its when a bus full of children going to school is targeted by a FUCKING suicide bomber who believes that his only chance of going to heaven and banging 72 virgins is by blowing up those little children apart. THATS FUCKING HATRED!!!!
so pull your head out of your ass, take a good shower and GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY! 'nuff said.
E2141 5 years ago
[about E2141's comment] Hatred's not pretty. That comment was a small sample, from a 22 year old Israeli (according to his profile). 'nuff said.
moomtastic 5 years ago
"A lesson in palestine.." lol
there is no palestine NUMNUTS!
the only lesson you will learn in "palestine" is:
The Art Of Loosing
E2141 5 years ago
fuck u beowulf u jackass. I think isreal should stop being a state
IRAQ2008 5 years ago
[to iraq2008] Um... I think we need to find a solution that protects the rights and dignity of everyone living there. Now, you're originally from Baghdad, so an emotional response is understandable... But I'll also ask that you try to see beyond stereotypes, and see people instead.
Of course, beowulf333 doesn't have the cojones to tell us anything about himself in his profile, so in his case there's not much there for us to see!
moomtastic 5 years ago
the middle east wants the west's money. They want the west's technology. They don't want our partisipation. That's our price. If you don't like it, don't buy a car, a computer, etc... Boycot the wests technology.
beowulf333 5 years ago
Most people there are overjoyed to have trade with the West. Don't take my word for it; ask Coca Cola Palestine. I'm sure they'd answer any polite inquiries. Their website is at nbc-pal.com. Catchy theme song, eh?
Heck, they'd love balanced, fair participaiton from us on the political level, too. For many reasons, we've substantially failed at that. That's a big subject; I'll refer you to places like Juan Cole's blog for the politics.
moomtastic 5 years ago
palestine should cease being a state. what a joke of a state...
beowulf333 5 years ago
[to beowulf333] Wow - so much hatred and spite, in such a small comment! And all I did is call the Palestinian city I was standing in part of Palestine. I could go into the politics, but I won't; I'll just suggest that you try to look beyond stereotypes, and see people instead. Best of luck to you.
moomtastic 5 years ago
when a group of people (israel and palestine) can only see resorting their differences through the utter destruction of the other equally on both sides, they themselves deserve whichever fate they receive. Unfortunate for Palestine. Once Palestine as a state and its people decide to be the bigger person, then they will deserve help and the respect they are seeking. Their continued violence does not warrent such respect.
beowulf333 5 years ago
Interesting that you're applying your argument to both sides, whereas your first comment was more one-sided. But putting that aside, you're characterization of what Palestinians think is a grossly inaccurate caricature. I've lived there for months, and this image, so common in the West, is false.
But don't trust me - the information is all out there, if you look for it, including polling data that utterly refutes the commonly-held stereotype you express.
moomtastic 5 years ago
Yes, your right, my origional comment was ambiguous. However, i understand that hamas does humanitarian work, but they are also active in illicit activities. It is true that given any group of people 90% of them are nice, kind, hard working people. It's those 10% that give them a bad name. The Palestinians aren't doing anything about those 10%. What else are we in the west supposed to believe when this group of people stand idlely by while this 10% of people give them a bad name?
beowulf333 5 years ago
What makes you think they aren't doing anything? My friend, you try organizing politically under a forty-year military occupation, then come back and tell us about it. Since you mention Hamas, it's been quite well documented that the occupying power (Israel) fostered their creation, and their rise.
But I digress. Before you conclude that they aren't doing anything, I urge you to become better informed. They have been, are, and continue to do many things. You just haven't heard about it.
moomtastic 5 years ago
thank u for calling it palestine and not isreal u r a truly great man
IRAQ2008 5 years ago
Thanks, but the only people I saw around there who would call Nablus part of "Israel" were some of the less bright checkpoint soldiers. These days, you have to be an extremist to actually think Nablus is part of Israel. Of course, this in no way lessens Israel's obligations under the Geneva convention!
moomtastic 5 years ago
WOOO u use complex words...ha the only to word i understood was LAZY DORK haha
good vid
JappyChan 5 years ago
LOL soo true hahahaha
mad72 5 years ago
haha cool dude :) I like it... Lazydork is indeed an inspiration.
snaggie 5 years ago