It make an enormous difference when the conductor has memorized and interalized the score. In Venezuela the conductors are trained to memorize the score. 'That will always give any conductor an edge on the piece plus the respect of the musicians.
@AWiddit Yes! - however, these are not his Russian initials. It is D, E flat, C, B natural, or in German musical notation D, Es, C, H (pronounced as "De-Es-Ce-Ha"), thus standing for the composer's initials in German transliteration: D. Sch.
great interpretation. The knowledge that more speed doesn't always create more intensity. While dudamel is good his talent is overshadowed by rattle's pure knowledge not even counting his talent.
@RedSoxWSAgain Is that because Dudamel is exactly half Rattles age? Rattle has been quoted as saying that Dudamel is the most amazing musician that Rattle has ever met. Quite a compliment. Dudamel is a gift from Venezuela to the world. Refined and polished latin talent. Gustavo Dudamel is very lucky to not have been born in Los Angeles where he might have ended up in jail, like many poor latinos. Very lucky to have been born a Venezuelan.
happywandy457, when you watch conductors gestures, you´ll find out that great conductors mostly tend to save them as much as possible: This gives confidence to interpreters and permits more body language and mimics to guide all kind of details of the work performed. This piece is an example of great performind.
@TheKevinV08 Please forgive what may seem like an impertinent or impolite remark, but I have see Barenboim do the same thing with both the CSO and the BPO, Rattle lets them loose because they know what they are doing and he trusts them. Turn the great orchestras loose!! Watch Barenboim and the CSO do the Tchaik 4th finale, you'll see the same thing!!
@orovalleydude I have no offence taken, but I should have made my comment clearer. I actually admire conductors like this, as they can let let them run loose and "conserve energy", only making necessary cues when needed. This is one of the reasons I admire conductors like Rattle, Barenboim, and Bernstien that seem to let the orchestra do the work. I still admire the conducting style of, lets say, Michael Tilson Thomas and Haitnik, but I find their style a bit redundant.
Completely agree with you. The Teresa Carreno Youth Orchestra means it when it does it. I also like their interpretation of Shostakovich 12th Symphony, 1917. I think it is better than the Leningrad Philharmonic version. Just my opinion, but what do I know. Hear for yourself.
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I am confused as to what the purpose of the conductor is, in a group of such a calibre. It seems as if most of the players are intent on their music, and it does not appear that he is doing much as far as making sure they keep a consistent tempo.
It's very true that this ensemble does not need a conductor to keep time. They do need one, however, to guide them through the piece, make sure it is shaped correctly and balanced well and to lead the more complicated points, eg when the tempo is changing or fluctuating.
Conductors are like icebergs in that a lot of their work is unseen, done in rehearsals. They have to unite 100 odd musicians, each of whom has their own idea about how the piece should sound!
@atomicmrpelly Wrong, wrong, wrong! The ensemble needs a conductor to makes sure that they keep the *same* time - everything else is up to the MUSICIANS.
@atomicmrpelly Exactly, I couldn't agree more. Many people criticize extremely talented conductors for their "not keeping time". However, esteemed orchestras of the Berlin Phil's caliber do not need a conductor to keep time in front of them. Through the conductor's rehearsals, the tempo has been ingrained and the musicians' exceptional talent replaces the need for time beaten by a conductor.
And yes, conducting at a performance is only a part of a conductor's job and a small way to judge one.
Well I can safely say as much as I miss Karajan, Rattle did a very fine job of filling his shoes. Of course they are very much different, but in general he know's how to do his job well. Superb.
My god! I'm in awe. This is so sensational I can barely breath. You are one of the greatest orchestra's in the world. I'm so privileged to be able to watch you on line. What an inspiration you are. Thankyou = )
So come on now, folks. if you like this so much, go and buy yourself a ticket for the Digital Concert Hall of the Berlin Philharmonic. €150,- for one year, and you can listen to the live performance and all the archive recordings, as often as you want. It's a fantastic endeavour.
Sir Simon Rattle is the best — his renditions of such great works (as with Shostakovich's 10th symphony) are superb. What's even better is how he is able to traverse many different schools of composition of the past century — from this, to Stockhausen's "Gruppen", to Messiaen's "Éclairs sur l'au-Delà..." — and interpret them all exceedingly well. Quite possibly the finest conductor of this century, and of course the Berliner Philharmoniker is magnificent as well. Bravo Rattle and Berlin!
I agree with you! He´s an extraordinary conductor. He describes itself as a crazy duck, so called in school, but i think this is his secret of beeing successful in classic, the love to the music. Nice to see how europe works together.
this is by far the best video on youtube. the music itself is a revelation. the clarity of sound and picture is unmatched by any other video, and it's loud enough for me. congratulations!
Slower than Dudamel's interpretation, yet Rattle's version is more frightening!
The violins are just yelling and screaming in pain from 2.29 onwards, just liek the people living in the USSR are living in a state of horror, you can feel the suffer and torture that the people bore in this piece of music!
I believe that one day Shostakovich will be the greatest of all Russian composers. He certainly was prolific. He without doubt was the most outstanding composer or the 20th Century. I like the youthful exuberance of the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra. Simon Rattle is the best!
@kgy122 I don't know I think the CSO and the NY Phil are pretty damn awesome. I am not saying that this orchestra is not stellar because it definitely is just that, stellar in all ways :-)
i felt that the sound quality of this video is a little bit poorer than other berlin phil videos
CHEdumbo 2 weeks ago
D.....S....C...H.......
JoeTbn96 3 months ago
omg kinhavennnnn '11
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Much better than Karajan's 2nd recording.
MrCatneko 4 months ago
YEAH! Albrecht Mayer from 2.10 on! Perfect!
raulcat19 4 months ago
I really love and admire Rattle but I hate his conducting from 1.40 on.
raulcat19 4 months ago
OMG- I got goosebumps when they plaed his name! So obvious but nice haha
raulcat19 4 months ago
WOW!
lbrinin1701 4 months ago
1:45 = who let of the stinkbomb!
1:46 = COR BLIMY!
MegaChemboy 4 months ago
It make an enormous difference when the conductor has memorized and interalized the score. In Venezuela the conductors are trained to memorize the score. 'That will always give any conductor an edge on the piece plus the respect of the musicians.
padredemishijos12 4 months ago
The clarinet part is crazy!!!!!
sahand144 5 months ago
clarinet part is INSANE! :O the guy with crystal mouthpiece is....... amazing!!!
MegaChemboy 5 months ago
Music will save the world.
wierdo1232123 6 months ago
Perfect Shostakovich sound !
jeromesim 6 months ago
Oi! Does a cellist come in early right at the beginning?
OpenCadence78 7 months ago
Who is the playing principal clarinet?? With the crystal mouth piece? I am determined to find out who he is... He's AMAZING!
eamflutes 7 months ago
@eamflutes His name is Christopher Corbett; he plays Solo clarinet in the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra.
carlnielsen1 7 months ago 2
@carlnielsen1 OH Thanks so much!!!! I literally spent hours trying to find out who he was. Thanks! :D
eamflutes 7 months ago
@eamflutes you are so right about that!
MegaChemboy 5 months ago
i always liked shostakovich because has nice dark movements at the end
quagdude 7 months ago
2:17 Best Oboe synchronized dance.
chr1israzor 7 months ago 4
impecable. BRAVOOO
leoncioviolin 8 months ago
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tobqymaahy3713 9 months ago
i wonder how much members of the berlin phil get paid?
BBRENTTAGHAPP 9 months ago
Aren't the last 4 notes in the unison brass Shostakovitch's initials in Russian?
AWiddit 9 months ago
@AWiddit Yes! - however, these are not his Russian initials. It is D, E flat, C, B natural, or in German musical notation D, Es, C, H (pronounced as "De-Es-Ce-Ha"), thus standing for the composer's initials in German transliteration: D. Sch.
BerlinPhil 9 months ago 11
@BerlinPhil Wow, that's a pretty interesting bit of info.
LLJtbone 6 months ago
lol contrabassoon player at 2:15 very crazy ^^
gabriel26121990 10 months ago 2
i just played for Simon Rattle about an hour ago :P Did Bruckner 9. Amazing musician, not much else to say!
iGotSpaceLikeNASA 11 months ago
1:29 greatest facial expression
DarkKnight6464 11 months ago
O.O'' That is just amazing. So cool, really want to play it sometime :L XD
obligotoryoblivion 11 months ago
Copy and paste: "Incredible high school musicians from Venezuela! Led by Gustavo Dudamel"
superblindados 1 year ago
Quite disturbing music ...
violinoamore 1 year ago
Incrivel !!!
mrdogalemao 1 year ago
great interpretation. The knowledge that more speed doesn't always create more intensity. While dudamel is good his talent is overshadowed by rattle's pure knowledge not even counting his talent.
RedSoxWSAgain 1 year ago
@RedSoxWSAgain Is that because Dudamel is exactly half Rattles age? Rattle has been quoted as saying that Dudamel is the most amazing musician that Rattle has ever met. Quite a compliment. Dudamel is a gift from Venezuela to the world. Refined and polished latin talent. Gustavo Dudamel is very lucky to not have been born in Los Angeles where he might have ended up in jail, like many poor latinos. Very lucky to have been born a Venezuelan.
padredemishijos12 11 months ago
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Rattle was at the Met matinée yesterday.
LordMgls 1 year ago
Rattle was at the Met matinée yesterday.
LordMgls 1 year ago
Can these performances be bought as mp3 files from Itunes or somewhere?
schnozz87 1 year ago
happywandy457, when you watch conductors gestures, you´ll find out that great conductors mostly tend to save them as much as possible: This gives confidence to interpreters and permits more body language and mimics to guide all kind of details of the work performed. This piece is an example of great performind.
Hans Fröhlich-Germany
froehlicherelter 1 year ago 2
grosos éstos tipos! vamo' el shosta!
zuzanazuzanita 1 year ago
So muss ein Komponist aussehen. Und das Lied erinnert mich irgendwie an die Disney Filme :-)
Yulam24 1 year ago
Shostakovich and Berlin just don't mix too well, regardless of the conductor. I think it is a culture thing, a missing gene, hard to say.
Nice job though...
saxcock 1 year ago
@saxcock Its political, think USSR.
alejoeisabel 1 year ago
Why doesn't Rattle really conduct the orchestra...
TheKevinV08 1 year ago
@TheKevinV08 Please forgive what may seem like an impertinent or impolite remark, but I have see Barenboim do the same thing with both the CSO and the BPO, Rattle lets them loose because they know what they are doing and he trusts them. Turn the great orchestras loose!! Watch Barenboim and the CSO do the Tchaik 4th finale, you'll see the same thing!!
orovalleydude 1 year ago
@orovalleydude I have no offence taken, but I should have made my comment clearer. I actually admire conductors like this, as they can let let them run loose and "conserve energy", only making necessary cues when needed. This is one of the reasons I admire conductors like Rattle, Barenboim, and Bernstien that seem to let the orchestra do the work. I still admire the conducting style of, lets say, Michael Tilson Thomas and Haitnik, but I find their style a bit redundant.
TheKevinV08 1 year ago
This is so amazing and intense! Berlin is the best orchestra ever. I like how Rattle only involves himself in conducting when he needs to.
classicalmusic6 1 year ago
tremendio!! bravo the woodwind, specially maestro walter seyfarth!!!
casnemechada 1 year ago
i prefer the teresa carreno youth orchestra version better
ryantortallini 1 year ago
@ryantortallini
Completely agree with you. The Teresa Carreno Youth Orchestra means it when it does it. I also like their interpretation of Shostakovich 12th Symphony, 1917. I think it is better than the Leningrad Philharmonic version. Just my opinion, but what do I know. Hear for yourself.
alejoeisabel 1 year ago
brutal
victhrone 1 year ago
im playing this right now ^^
RAMIRO3 1 year ago
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I am confused as to what the purpose of the conductor is, in a group of such a calibre. It seems as if most of the players are intent on their music, and it does not appear that he is doing much as far as making sure they keep a consistent tempo.
Sternman318 1 year ago
@Sternman318: it all happens in rehearsal.
gerardtgibbs 1 year ago
Most of it anyway, when I saw them do Turangalila at the proms Rattle had to cue the vibes player when he got lost!
atomicmrpelly 1 year ago
It's very true that this ensemble does not need a conductor to keep time. They do need one, however, to guide them through the piece, make sure it is shaped correctly and balanced well and to lead the more complicated points, eg when the tempo is changing or fluctuating.
Conductors are like icebergs in that a lot of their work is unseen, done in rehearsals. They have to unite 100 odd musicians, each of whom has their own idea about how the piece should sound!
Hope this helps.
atomicmrpelly 1 year ago 52
Hah, that helps perfectly! I should have known since I have been in 'band' for 8 or years- I guess I just had a brain fart( quite a bad one at that).
Thanks!
Sternman318 1 year ago
@atomicmrpelly Wrong, wrong, wrong! The ensemble needs a conductor to makes sure that they keep the *same* time - everything else is up to the MUSICIANS.
. . . no one ever hears a conductor!
IOLTA 1 year ago
@IOLTA So you're telling me that a conductors job is purely metronomic.... Underneath a video of Sir Simon Rattle?
atomicmrpelly 1 year ago
@IOLTA
You must be joking.. Do you really think that makes sense?
JupiterAdept 1 year ago
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atomicmrpelly 1 year ago
@atomicmrpelly
alejoeisabel 1 year ago
@atomicmrpelly Exactly, I couldn't agree more. Many people criticize extremely talented conductors for their "not keeping time". However, esteemed orchestras of the Berlin Phil's caliber do not need a conductor to keep time in front of them. Through the conductor's rehearsals, the tempo has been ingrained and the musicians' exceptional talent replaces the need for time beaten by a conductor.
And yes, conducting at a performance is only a part of a conductor's job and a small way to judge one.
song2712 1 year ago
Frickin epic!
nickmaestro 1 year ago
muito bom bravissimo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
andersonclarinete10 2 years ago
Super!!!!!!!
ChrissysVideokids 2 years ago 2
This piece is mad! Beautiful performance.
JupiterAdept 2 years ago
wowi...sehr gut...ein schönes lied für das beste orchester der welt. sehr gut gespielt bravissimo!
MrMusicforlife44 2 years ago 2
Well I can safely say as much as I miss Karajan, Rattle did a very fine job of filling his shoes. Of course they are very much different, but in general he know's how to do his job well. Superb.
MrBeethoven333 2 years ago 5
My god! I'm in awe. This is so sensational I can barely breath. You are one of the greatest orchestra's in the world. I'm so privileged to be able to watch you on line. What an inspiration you are. Thankyou = )
84CocoCo 2 years ago
Which mvt is this?
salsadance999 2 years ago
It is the last one, "Andante - Allegro".
BerlinPhil 2 years ago 3
4th
lemidi 2 years ago
AMAZING AND SO INTENSE! Who could not like the best orchestra in the world playing Shostakovich!
classicalmusic6 2 years ago 2
Sehr stark!
Ignatir 2 years ago
Exceptionally good sounding.. Love Shostakovich.
LLJtbone 2 years ago
So come on now, folks. if you like this so much, go and buy yourself a ticket for the Digital Concert Hall of the Berlin Philharmonic. €150,- for one year, and you can listen to the live performance and all the archive recordings, as often as you want. It's a fantastic endeavour.
Josefrainer 2 years ago 3
WOW, AN INCEDIBLE INTERPRETAION!!!
gregapage 2 years ago 5
Sir Simon Rattle is the best — his renditions of such great works (as with Shostakovich's 10th symphony) are superb. What's even better is how he is able to traverse many different schools of composition of the past century — from this, to Stockhausen's "Gruppen", to Messiaen's "Éclairs sur l'au-Delà..." — and interpret them all exceedingly well. Quite possibly the finest conductor of this century, and of course the Berliner Philharmoniker is magnificent as well. Bravo Rattle and Berlin!
MusicaRicercata 2 years ago 3
I agree with you! He´s an extraordinary conductor. He describes itself as a crazy duck, so called in school, but i think this is his secret of beeing successful in classic, the love to the music. Nice to see how europe works together.
Torsten1345 2 years ago
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Lol, the lady at 2:56 behind the tam-tam player:
"Oh God, what's he going to do now?"
*BWONG*
ThaSchwab 2 years ago 8
I was trying to watch out for it, and noticed that at 2:26, the woman in white is picking her nose :D :D :D
monster0129 2 years ago 2
this is by far the best video on youtube. the music itself is a revelation. the clarity of sound and picture is unmatched by any other video, and it's loud enough for me. congratulations!
curlyman217 2 years ago 6
Slower than Dudamel's interpretation, yet Rattle's version is more frightening!
The violins are just yelling and screaming in pain from 2.29 onwards, just liek the people living in the USSR are living in a state of horror, you can feel the suffer and torture that the people bore in this piece of music!
karajanhk 2 years ago 5
großartig
hundingwelser 2 years ago 2
Yes, he was good at the lower strings - now that you mentioned it!
her0esfan 2 years ago
what movement does this except take place in in the symphony?
curlyman217 2 years ago
This is an excerpt from the 4th movement of the symphony.
jordisalazar 2 years ago
I see a revenue stream: luxury wristwatches for the musicians.
etiterum 2 years ago
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I'll take a stab at translating the last comment:
"More enjoyable than deep fried squid entrails with orangutan testicle soup!"
gerardtgibbs 2 years ago
That's sexist!
nfajkblg 2 years ago
And very stupid.
Marlene55M 2 years ago
Not quite. Yueh was commenting that the intensity and seemingly "unrefined" manner in which Shostakovich composed, is almost frightening.
Crackadackas 2 years ago
yuenchopin means the music is brutal and very direct; really frightening! Please DON'T misintrepret others' comment.
karajanhk 2 years ago
音樂「粗暴」而直接,很嚇人!
yuehchopin 2 years ago
richtig dufte
SalaputiaBrass 2 years ago
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SalaputiaBrass 2 years ago
I believe that one day Shostakovich will be the greatest of all Russian composers. He certainly was prolific. He without doubt was the most outstanding composer or the 20th Century. I like the youthful exuberance of the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra. Simon Rattle is the best!
alejoeisabel 2 years ago 5
I would disagree, Shostakovitch definitely loved the lower strings :D
jackywushengzong 2 years ago 2
ah, i love this song. played this also in my youth orchestra. the piccolo part is fantastic. Obviously Shostakovitch liked piccolo:D
nickysaxpiccolo 2 years ago
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bene4587 2 years ago
Impressive performance...In the new high definition is fantastic...
Lonegan63 2 years ago 3
Rattle+Berlin Philharmonics=Best orchestra of the World
kgy122 2 years ago 61
@kgy122 I don't know I think the CSO and the NY Phil are pretty damn awesome. I am not saying that this orchestra is not stellar because it definitely is just that, stellar in all ways :-)
LLJtbone 1 year ago
in the last years shostakovich has becoming more and more important, more and more played, or not?
robotkarel 2 years ago 2
Perfect interpretation of Shostakovich
Great!
jmuzic77 2 years ago
This is quite possibly the best rendition of this piece I've seen - many thanks for posting this!
devaraja42 2 years ago 3
That was powerfull. I cind of harmoic well thought-out mess.
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago
1:45 :D
divine604 2 years ago 3
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divine604 2 years ago
Marvelous!!
omega770 2 years ago 3
excellent performances, little vinyetts!
Very nice, like an appetizer. You surely know, I want more!
rainbowfeather 2 years ago
Un regalo para el espiritu.................
JorPove 2 years ago