Ati 5870 Fsx @ 3.8ghz i7 920

[manbal100]

IS a GTX 460 better than a ATI 5870 ?

[DavidGueetta1987]

@manbal100 No. GTX 460 better than only 5830.

[Latvietis96]

does it run Half Life 1?

[MrThomasHandley]

what's your PSU? If i decide to go to a higher PSU will I have to get a different motherboard?

[Steve31000]

@MrThomasHandley My PSU is a Corsair 950 Watts. You'll need this with your dual GPU which I remember you saying you had so therefore you should have something of this calibar that came with your rig, no?

[MrThomasHandley]

@Steve31000 I'm pretty sure it's an 1100 watt PSU, not sure of the brand though.

[Steve31000]

@MrThomasHandley 1100 watt is more than enough. Normally you shouldn't need to change the PSU for a new motherboard. It should be a standard socket connection.

[EICASActivitee]

O my, It's the one and only Vancouver B.C.!!!! :D , btw that is so so smooth, greath video card! Wish I had one :P

[nabarundevreeze]

I also have the ati 5870, what settings are you using for AA and FSA in ati ccc? how are your fps?

please take a look at my vid too :p

[Steve31000]

@nabarundevreeze I use wide-tent on full for AA and adaptive multisampling. Supersampling destroys fps. I checked out your videos and they are a great. I have one tip for you. Ati cards do not like fraps under DX9 and hence why you get visible lower fps in your movies. I found by accidednt that when you run under DX10 Fraps has absolutely no impact and you loose no fps. So when making a movie (or parts of it) use DX10 to record with fraps.

[jgdogg441]

wow. usually the clouds become the bottleneck for fps in any flight sim. your card is handling them quite nicely

[anth0ny45]

fps ?

[nikia320]

will i be able to run fsx with high setting with an itel core 2 duo E8400 at 3ghz, 2gb of ram and an radeon hd5770 1gb??? and is it true that nvidia video cards better handle weather phenomena like clouds... what is the difference betwen fps in a clear day and in a overcast day on your PC??? anyway thx for help and nice video... really smooth fps :)

[Steve31000]

@nikia320 Regarding the E8400, I'd say you would be able to run at medium settings with low weather settings. Because FSX is cpu dependent even clouds affect on performance will depend on the cpu as well as the gpu. My setup gives high fps 40+ with or without clouds but only if I use the default FSX. When I start throwing in add-ons and then have clouds I might get 25fps. It just depends on the add on or what plane your using. It's very subjective. Sometimes it even depends on the cloud type...

[Eirwan95]

@Steve31000 i have an i5 750, the fps is something like yours, 40+ on defaul ultra high but, why??? ure using i7 right???!!!!!

[Steve31000]

@nikia320 ....(cont) I'm using. I'd say the Nvidia 480 and 470 are better for FSX than the Ati cards from what I've read. Although the price difference is what makes ATi more worthwhile. As I said i reckon you'd get medium settings on that rig.

[nikia320]

@Steve31000 thanks so much for the fast response it helped me a lot :)

[CaNxYoUxStoP]

would a i7 930 @3.8ghz, gtx 470, 6gb @1600mhz ram would run fsx good like in this video or better?

nice video btw

[Steve31000]

@CaNxYoUxStoP Certainly as good, probably better as it is slightly newer technology. I think the gtx 470 or 480 is the way to go graphics not that my 5870 isn't impressive but the 470 and 480 seem to work very well when it comes to FSX from what I've seen.

[CaNxYoUxStoP]

@Steve31000 yea..but im going to go with the ati 5850 since i read forums that its same as the gtx 470 when overclocked. or without!

[Steve31000]

@CaNxYoUxStoP I would do a bit more research on the flight sim forums such as Orbx's forum and you'll find out that FSX likes the achitecture of the 470 and 480 very much. Remember you can't use normal comparisons of graphics cards you find on review sights as FSX using the graphics card in a very different way to other games. Also you will have a headache trying to find a happy medium with settings when it comes to the catalyst tools. I am forever fiddling with it and changing drivers.

[CaNxYoUxStoP]

@Steve31000 thanks..but do you think the 5850 will still be good.?

[Steve31000]

@CaNxYoUxStoP I have heard good reports about the 5850 but not nearly as good as the reports regarding the 470. I'm not sure what the price difference is. If it's massive then go with the 5850 for now but don't expect it to be necessarily the easiest to tweak with FSX.

[CaNxYoUxStoP]

@Steve31000 yeah. well im getting the toxic version. comes overcloked!!

[sanjayblr]

i am looking to buy a new computer...is ATI Raedon better than Nvidia? and also shall i get a dual graphics card or a single? Great video im also looking to put an i7 920 on there too

[MarinhsKampias]

damn.....i envy you!;-)

[boeingace1618]

great video.

What do you mean when you say "I used the Catalyst tools to deal with the AA, AF etc"

do ati cards have some kind of problem running fsx??

just curious i am trying to get a new card here are my specs:

asus rampage 2 extreme

i7 920 oc 4.0ghz

6gb 1600 ddr3

nvidea 8800gt

[Steve31000]

@boeingace1618 ATi have no problem running FSX with the 5000 series (they do have problems with the 4000 series) as long as you have the new drivers.

[Steve31000]

@boeingace1618

Catalyst tools works much like Nvidia's enhancer program

[TheHeyyyy1]

wow

[Govou17]

How much fps do u get when u play I have the same CPU and gpu I get 20 on everything ultrahigh.

[GDV007]

Which REX water set was this? the reflections of the sun are almost real! 5*!

[Steve31000]

'Sparkling'

[cjellwood]

i think you need vertical sync turned on here to lose the screen waves.

On my system I get annoyed with autogen popping up even though I have good spec system. Do you know what remedy that because i dont see it happening on your vid

[Steve31000]

This was my first video and I hadn't enabled vsync at this stage. As far as I know there is nothing that can be done to stop the autogen from popping up. Its the way FSX is programed.

[2StrokeRacing]

Of course DX9 is for noobs.

The real pros are using DX10 because of its better performance and optics

[FS2004ACoF]

Da-a-a-am! Awesome!

[2StrokeRacing]

hi,

yes DirectX10 mode is the best mode for FSX, only noobs use DirectX 9.

with ati cards, anti aliasing, bloom and everything will work fine @ lots of performance

Bill from AAM (american aviation magazine)

[FS2004ACoF]

I don't think DX9 is for noobs.

[FcCoolDK]

Hey Nice video:D...Witch Wave Animation in REX do u use?

[Steve31000]

Sparkling

[FcCoolDK]

Hmm..Ive allso use Sparkling..but..your water looks way better then mine...

[doubleyoudotcom]

DX9 oder DX10-preview on this video?? do you have texture flickering on runways with your card? VSync works with DX10? Bloom effect and G-effect works?

[longlivethe80s]

BTW....do you think there is much of a difference between 3.6 and 3.8??

[Steve31000]

Right now I'm running stable at 4ghz. I think there is a difference. How of one I can't say.

[GDYP]

is this FSX gold?

[mfastx]

Important question: are you using windows 7?

[Steve31000]

Yes, using windows 7 64-bit.

[simonbrackeva]

question, i just bought a new desktop, i7- 920 ( 2.66 GHz ), 8 Gigs ram and a Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5. does it really perform better to overclock the CPU? i know i'd have to get it watered cooled, but do you really see the difference between 2.66 and 3.80 ? with the setup i got, will i be able to run just about max graphics details. if it does make a difference, how much faster can i overclock the cpu before going watercooled? Thanks for your time!

[Steve31000]

It makes a big difference in fsx to overclock from 2.66 to 3.8 or 4ghz (where I am at now). The best way to do this is a small bit at a time and download something like 'realtemp' to check your temperature as your going along so you don't damage anything. Make sure it stays below 80. Doing this will depend on what cooler you have. I am using a Fenrir air cooler. What are you using? With a stock cooler you wouldn't be able to go up that high safely.

[simonbrackeva]

Ok so i could probably run the CPU at 3.8 then... the cooler i have now is the stock one, i know i would have to get a better cooler, and watercooling just looks expensive. Is the Titan Fenrir Air cooler the one to buy for this? Im a noob at overclockig and certainly wouldnt wanna fry my $1500 computer... ive looked at a couple different video's for overclocking, im just a little scared of messing up the cpu... i might ask a friend to look into this for me

[Steve31000]

Yes I have a Titan Fenrir. It seems very good at keeping things cool. FSX never brings my temps above 60 @4ghz. I would definitely not risk overclocking to 3.8ghz on a stock cooler despite what you may read. I would say maximum 3.2ghz. Do this incrementally eg. 2.6 -2.8, 2.8 - 3.0ghz etc checking your cpu temp as you run fsx (in windowed mode so you can see both. Overclocking is relatively easy with the i7. What motherboard do you have? - mines a Gigabyte UD3

[longlivethe80s]

i think you need to go at least to 3.8 to run fsx smooth. I have mine OC'd to 3.6 right now and i still have problems at airports and lower altitudes over highly populated areas like Los Angeles. I am running it at ultra high settings though...

[TonkatrainHONKHONK]

Is that vancouver?

[jersthecool]

Read the description the very first thing in it says A flight over Vancouver

[0Artur0]

I really doesn't look good without vsync.

[MarioDaKidx]

wats vsync???

[boe772ER]

So is a 5870 better than a GTX285 for FSX?

[Nason123]

It looks absolutely horrible FSX without Vsync... visible tearing

[Steve31000]

I think that is a slight exageration. There are ways to say things more constructively...........

[Nason123]

Heh and how do you want to say that more constructively? Why? Ok - FSX is great game! Your video is great! But with Ati cards people have just one small problem wich have really big impact on general impression. That problem is Vsync. There is no way how to force Vsync on on Ati cards in FSX without problems like flashing image etc.. And worst thing on it is, that this situation probably never wil be fixed. I was waiting one year for their new drivers, Than I have to switched to Nvidia.Good luck

[raazmatazz94]

U know whats so weird? When I put on AA in FSX, it raises FPS, and when its off, it decreases it. WTH?

[TonkatrainHONKHONK]

Turn your fsx vsync off and control it from the graphics card control panel. Or Nhancer if your on nvidia

[kif868]

ha, two things I was going to buy, a sony cyber shot and the Ati graphics card. lol. What's the model of the camera? And generally, whats the FPS around Manhattan with settings on ultra high?

[PMDGpilot737]

zeesus...

[marospy]

hey nice video indeed , just have a request , can u make a demo with Ultra High Settings and Stormy Weather and a PMDG 744 in LFPG Aerosoft Scenery , i wanna know how much u get with and without fraps please .

[ZorgDK]

beautiful smooth! i would force vsync if i were you, though.

[michelarjuna]

I heard ATI cards are bad with FSX especially when many clouds are being rendered. But apparantly this is not true? I hope so because I'd prefer ATI over NVIDIA

[Steve31000]

The issue with previous ATI cards was mainly concerned with the rendering of clouds in FSX. This has been fixed with the 5000 series and clouds have minimal to zero impact . If you are on the fence over whether to get a 5870 for fsx I would say don't be as long as you have a good cpu so that bottleneck doesn't occur. FSX is very cpu dependent.

[michelarjuna]

I'm glad to hear that :) I have a shitty computer but when I upgrade I will now buy an ATI card for sure. They have good performance and are attractively priced. I hope you enjoy FSX on your new card!

[mikedapimp1122]

damn i notice a lot of screen tearing, you should use vsync

[robertozube]

That is something my system suffers with. I will try vsync. Many thanks.