Taekkyun #26

[Sevv9220]

@6arcsn1sky - Spent a few hours doing research last night. turns out after all these years I was wrong. Sorry about that

[jariworld]

Fake story.Fake Nation. Disgusting

[6arcsn1sky]

@jariworld STFU.

[lvladikov]

hey im searching from a long time a video that depicts the hand techniques in taekkyun... would be very grateful for any ideas/links :) tnx

[sasoriko]

@lvladikov Good luck.. my Korean family practices Taekkyun so I've been exposed to it. I've even trained some with them but as I'm not Korean by blood they wont teach me everything. The hand techniques aren't shown and the grappling is seldom shown so you wont know what Taekkyun really is until it's too late. I've seen my bro beat boxers, kick boxers, thai fighters, and bjj guys. It's the flow of how powerful the attacks are and the odd angles that make it dangerous =)

[lvladikov]

@sasoriko tnx sasoriko im also a taekkyun practitioner from bulgaria but its a long story how this martial art came to our country :) i wish you all the best, train hard!powerful attacks and odd angles... and also an amazing speed and flexibility... thats what makes a good taekkyun fighter very dangerous... but nuff said lets train ;)

[MrByaeger]

i remember reading about this art about 20 years ago and its roots in Korean Martial Arts. from what i remember it was often practiced by artisans who did not want to injure their hands. i dont know enough to comment on what is being shown in this video but if this represents true Taekkyon then it's a priveldge to see it and i am glad it has been preserved for so long. how strange that such a modern thing as youtube is helping to restore forgotten treasures like this!

[dragonbalzy]

This looks a lot like ITF tkd. The back and forth movement is like our sine wave. Our kicking techniques are slightly different though. But the principles, especially the tumbling kicks and flying high kicks are very similar.

[6arcsn1sky]

@jaquesgrobler2 Well, it was actually a book I own that gives details, history, and skills of taekwondo.

[6arcsn1sky]

@jaquesgrobler2 Those who claim taekwondo is a blend of Shotokan karate and taekkyeon just wanted to promote their craft, but in later years, some TKD practitioners started to forego that story.

[dragonbalzy]

@6arcsn1sky No they were telling the truth, look at ITF tkd, look at our sine wave, look at our kicks, look at our hand techniques, the dual legacy is obvious.

[6arcsn1sky]

@dragonbalzy Those so-called truth are fabricated stories in order for some of these instructors to promote their version of taekwondo. I've seen the older taekwondo videos from the 50's, and they highly resemble karate in every detail. Those kicking techniques weren't around in its infancy. Besides, sine wave is only for mathematics.

[dragonbalzy]

@6arcsn1sky Actually they were, you need to get Gen Choi's book on tkd, the FIRST tkd book ever written, to see what was in there. You really do. Then you'll know what you r talking about.

Sine wave movement dude, something invented by Gen Choi, in the 70's,to add more power to tkd, and distinguish it from karate, which, he clearly stated, he got most of the hand techniques from. We don't hide man, we tell the truth. It's just that ppl can't accept that we created such a great art. best art!

[6arcsn1sky]

@dragonbalzy Keep sine wave in mathematics. I don't care on what you believe on what Master Choi has to say, but he admits later in life he didn't know anything about taekkyeon.

[Sevv9220]

@6arcsn1sky when did he say that?

[Sevv9220]

@6arcsn1sky Choi hong hi created taekwondo...he's the one who first said that

[6arcsn1sky]

@Sevv9220 Yes, I know he was one of the founders of taekwondo, but he stated in later interviews he never knew anything about taekkyeon. Problem is the article was taken out years ago.

[kaheino]

hey this is GREAT ... so sad that in Bulgaria there are no Taekkyun masters

[con48]

This is beautiful!

2:00 minutes in reminds me of Frankenstein + zombie ninja's

[Vigacsul]

Let me remind u guys

chinese love a circle

japanese love a straight line

while korean love a curve

no wonder y korean martial arts should be flexible and fluent

[epics7]

Historically this is original Korean martial arts before the Japanese invasion. Teakwondo, Hapkido etc. were martial arts that came from the hard Japanese styles and were the only options due to the Japanese banning true Korean martial arts. This style is more fluent and reminds me of a blend of Kung Fu and Capoiera.

[ratonL]

This looks like tremendous fun... ¡Where can I learn this!... :D

[fandra]

please, how is ccalled this music??? the title?? please! it's so nice!!

[universetechnique]

Remember I was here.Thai

[6arcsn1sky]

@universetechnique Is that all you got to say? Weak.

[IamNotaThreat]

the original korean b-boy. lol

[ihahahayou]

This is an ancient martial art and I get the feeling this is best decribed something similar to star wars philosophy where they understand the energy of a good nature of inner person to target not primary to destroy. I'm wondering maybe that's why later kingdoms didn't embrace this martial arts due to its not-so-violent nature.

[FOBse7en]

@ihahahayou Star Wars philosophy? May you be referring to Taoism?

[gatskillz]

so this is for people who hate singing birds, and want to kick the shit out of them? =)

[negoni8]

Excelente, en los años que práctique Tae Kwon Do mi profesor Ho Kwon Kan siempre nos hablaba de este arte marcial como raiz de Tae Kwon Do, y hasta ahora no lo habúa podido ver. Gracias

[gundrag000]

his kick looks really strong and natural

[KerosAohco]

At 1:30 is a picture of my Grandmaster, Kim Soo, training with the Taekkyun Grandmaster.

[earthgauge]

uh... this is an old form of martial arts.... like... during the kokuryeo dynasty. for some who don't know what that is... think spears, arrows, stone walls, and castles. so those of you who are complaining about the practicality of taekkyeon... well... keep in mind that it came from an era in which honor, beauty, and dignity mattered more than the most effective way to decapitate a person.

[Minsang1st]

@earthgauge Actually, taekkyun have been preserved and passed down as competition between villages. Therefore, the unnecessary moves that are supposed to represent honor, beauty, and dignity were eliminated, and the moves that were sent down were the ones that were effective, and the ones that these people could use and win the games. Also, the latest record was found was during the kokuryeo dynasty, but that doesn't mean it's from that era.

[sabinoson]

Very clean technique. Love it.

[kaindrg]

this dis arms are far simpler than the hapkido guys and hwarang do guys do it ..... i like it

[gungnir2357]

These guys would make great soccer players maybe.

[x666666x]

It's good to see the masters in action. Perfect control of fighting range and body position when kicking - very difficult to do. The Korean arts are the best for kicks.

[BushidoCode72]

Great video. But I never see these guys spar. I see them dance around and do very fancy kicks. But do they actually spar with full resistance?

[HiroIndo16]

taekkyon's moves point is to defeat opponent without causing injuries. that's why

[BushidoCode72]

I hear many martial arts say that, and their moves look great in demonstrations, but when fighters actually spar, they can't make any technique work against anyone offering resistance, and counter attack. I also don't understand how TaeKyon doesn't want to hurt the opponent, but teaches kicks that will smash anyone's skull once landed. A spin kick, will HURT the opponent. But can any of these guys actually land any of these techniques?

[HiroIndo16]

i mean defeat opponent without hurting OURSELF. sorry didnt type it

[FOBse7en]

@BushidoCode72 One main point of Taekkyeon is protecting yourself AND your opponent.

[nunescaio]

foda demais, o que fode e a dancinha.

aonde tem treino aqui no brasil?

[zetacool]

Awesome video dude!

Thank you for sharing this :)

[MrGameAssassin]

When Korea was in Japanese occupation, Koreans had to adopt either Chinese or Japanese martial arts. Traditional MA such as Tekkyun could not be practiced. It was practiced through secrecy. When the occupation stopped, Koreans took Japanese Karate and Taekkyun and birthed TKD.

[Kds7777]

@MrGameAssassin its not just japanese occupation. It dates back to more than 1000 years before when there was constant battle with chinese kingdoms such as sui and tang dynasty. also mongols such as khitans and sadly malgals(brother relatives of koreans). thats why you see alot of takedowns involved in taekkyun because mongols used lots of wrestle

[GuamKomudo]

I love Mongolian wrestling =D

Koreans and Mongolians are so good at archery too! Mongolians need to get horseback archery into the Olimpics, they would bring home the gold every time lol I really like Korean archery and taekkyun, I can see how well the two go together, you shoot them far away, and kick them when they are close lol

[6arcsn1sky]

@MrGameAssassin Sorry, but the banning of taekkyeon and other Korean martial arts dates back to the Yi Dynasty when the king ordered the people to practice Neo-Confucianism. Furthermore, taekkyeon has nothing to do with taekwondo, only it resurface on the early 80's.

[dragonbalzy]

@6arcsn1sky The decline of taekkyon, relates to those times. The outright banning of taekkyon occured during the Japanese occupation. Taekkyon has everything to do with tkd. If taekkyon did resurface in the '80's as you say, then that proves the connection btwn tkd and taekkyon. ITF tkd has shown those links in it's techniques since the '50's. If taekkyon was not prevalent, then was there to copy or link to? Sine wave in ITF is a legacy of taekkyon, as are kicking techniques.

[6arcsn1sky]

@dragonbalzy Taekkyeon has nothing to do with taekwondo at all. What do you mean by if taekkyeon resurfaces in the 80's, it proves a connection between the two? The techniques the ITF based upon was from Shotokan karate since Koreans in the occupation learned Japanese martial arts. I hate to state out the truth,, but everything about taekwondo came from karate.

[dragonbalzy]

@6arcsn1sky rubbish, hate to tell you are wrong, but you are wrong.

BTW, are you WTF? Maybe that's why you believe what you believe. Since, WTF, is mostly, modified karate.

It's not distinct from karate, the way, ITF, is, but let me, restate, our hands do mostly come from shotokhan, our kicks do come from taekkyon. Our sine wave movement, does seem to me to be reminiscent of taekkyon. Pls don't be snarky. Research sine wave movement b4 u comment. we r from taekkyon AND karate. nuff said

[6arcsn1sky]

@dragonbalzy Oh no, you're the one who's wrong. You're the one who believes in your instructors that claim taekwondo came from a more than 2,000 years old art. I've seen the old taekwondo videos from the 50's and their kicks are from karate. A laughsome to think I'm a WTF member since they can't spar realistically. Ironically I don't practice taekwondo, but I have a big respect for taekwondo. Just so you know, I'm a practitioner to Kyokushin karate.

[DeathHBFelix]

Verga es demasiado bueno, por que no naci en esa epoca y en korea? xDD

[DonakRV]

Great vid -I used to learn Taekkyon when I lived in Korea -did a couple of years but couldn't do the high kicks in the vid...

Like the music, what's it called?

[Minsang1st]

@DonakRV I'm so jealous. I want to learn this martial art really bad!!!

[taigyokushodan]

You never now what's around the next corner, you just may find yourself eating humble and wish that you had.

[1yellafella]

and this is just he taekkyon you can display publically its not what you can really learn from the master and you realize, "this is POINTLESS" i can never USE THIS ON ANYONE or else they'll just die." and it becomes really pointless to learn unless you can like dancin' around to music all day on yer tip toes and kicking and twisting and punishing yerself all day. 0% of this art is useful in a modern world that doesn't fight in hand to hand death duels anymore

[GuamKomudo]

This is a game... Not a fighting art man, calm down. Besides, people learn martial arts for hundreds of reasons, selfdefence, not everyone that ends up in a fight has access to a gun, most the world accept USA cannot buy a gun, muggers cant hold you at gun point because they cannot get a gun. Physical fitness, you know how fit you have to be or can get when you train martial arts??? Look at these kicks...Self Confidence and respect for yourself and others,MA teaches many things,not just hurting

[kaindrg]

@GuamKomudo elightening and true teh fact NIGGA

[gundrag000]

japan destoryed all of korea's culture and documents. and now japan is such a good manners country. power and super weapon, win is all on this earth.

[Minsang1st]

@GuamKomudo I agree with you on everything, except one. Although, taekkyun have been preserved as game, it does have aspects of fighting art. There are actually moves in taekkyun that are meant to injure badly or kill others, and the reason that it's not known and shown very often is because it have been only taught to the trusted students, due to it's deadliness.

[GuamKomudo]

I actually heard that and was shown a video of some of the moves that are not alowed in the game. There's lots of elbows and hand strikes to the throat, knees, pressure points ect.

[NaKALENiSUKA1]

@GuamKomudo very true i study widae taekkyeon its the form they taught the korean generals over 2000 years ago. it s very different from this style of taekkyeon somewhat ..it dosnt look like dancing and its very lethal alot of moves arent shown here

[teambaramui]

@GuamKomudo lol a game :DDDD Taekwondo and most of korean martial arts came from tekkyon, mas oyama studied it ( kyokushin karate father) tell him that lol ( if he was still alive)

[GuamKomudo]

Most of Taekwondo is Karate, Korea created Taekwondo after WWII when they hardly even remembered the existance of Taekkyun.

[xxxN1nJa5k1LZxxx]

@GuamKomudo i agree with al that accept for when you said it was a game you willl find out sooner or later

[Minsang1st]

@1yellafella wow you really don't know anything about this martial art. You should actually learn more about it before criticizing it like that.

[FOBse7en]

@1yellafella Ok first of all, It's meant to protect yourself AND your opponent. Self-defense doesn't mean "kick their ass", it merely means to protect yourself. Second, "fighting" is not the only purpose here. Last, please speak clearly as it's hard to understand what you're saying.

[1yellafella]

yup, this is the stuff i was learnin' a bunch a dancin' around and kickin' people only in places that would kill em', no wonder they developed a more civilized TKD in the 60's. that's why they didn't teach it after the first time in the 50s it was taught openly and some students maimed some people and it fell into disgrace afterwards, it's brutal so it's USELESS in the modern world unless you wanna catch a murder rap!

[Minsang1st]

@1yellafella Actually, in the games, it is strictly prohibitted to attack places that would kill or injure the opponent. Also, taekkyun uses push kicks, which minimizes the damage from the kicks. This is why they can actually compete without any gears like taekwondo, therefore taekkyon would be more civilized than taekwondo because the moves here actually care for the opponents. It is DEFINITELY NOT USELESS because it can be used for great self defense since it is not meant to hurt others.

[taigyokushodan]

Truly facinating

[chentaichiacademy]

this is a beautiful art and its really good to see a pure Korean art that was not influenced by Japan. Tho there is a lot of Chinese internal looking stuff here and your right these cultures must have influenced each other( obviously) and added their own particular twist on in places. ie more kicks here and more takedowns throws (China ) but who will ever know the real history its great to have so many good arts available today

[djkaneck1]

That was a phat vid! i enjoyed learning a different style.

[1PersonInSixBillion]

Too bad theres not full out Taekkyun fights they banned it because it can cause serious injury and death

[GuamKomudo]

They should just wear protection like in Kempo and other martial arts... Then no one would die =D

[KYUNGILNAM]

not because of injury issue. but because japanese colonizer banned everything korean.

[GuamKomudo]

Taekwondo is very new, were talking early 20th century... TKD is not a traditional Korean Martial art, its not traditional, or even very Korean at that... TKD was made from Karate and the old Korean folk game called Taekkyun which in the game you can only kick or grapple. Thats why TKD is like only kicks basically. If you see ITF TKD where they use punches, notice it looks just like Karate... Plus the Japanese Gi (Uniform) and belt system were copied from the Japanese as well.

[SABLJA89]

we need to bring in more of Taekyun throwing and submission tecniques to Taekwondo

[jazzyslip]

well what you need is to learn Tae Kyun ;)

[TKD960]

i agree!

[FOBse7en]

@SABLJA89 Well then it wouldn't be Taekwondo anymore. :) It would end up being more like Hapkido.

[assasin006]

It is said that this was a base of taekwondo.Learning this art makes ur balnce more better. Back kick originally came from here. thats what i heard.

[MDIS]

Looks more like Capoeira with a korean flair.

[nagi85]

I would love to learn this art, if even only for alittle while.....

[southbest05]

2 great korean art taekkyun and taekwondo!

[areamkarim]

that's a great martial art, but nowadays ppl starting doubt about tkd... think it is useless...

[TKD960]

i love watching Taekkyon. Gives me ideas for combinations to practice for Tae Kwon-Do

[JamzBake]

taekkyun is the original tae kwon do basically TKD is weaker martial art made from taekkyun

[benelliman]

uh.. TKD was created by Choi Hong Hi, it's main derivative is Okinawan Karate mixed with Tae Kyun.

[Exodus1991]

that is true but taekwondo original propose of creation was for military proposes and the traditional taekwondo and the sport is a deadly way of killing your opponent

[zpdldj]

ITF(north korea TKD) is Tae Kyun + Karate

WTF(south korea TKD) is not mixed Karate.

[benelliman]

LOL!!! Where did you get that information from!?!??

General Choi Hong Hi CREATED Tkd! it's in Tae Kwon Do times in 2000.

He traveled to North Korean and taught North Koreans TKD.

Though there is ITF and WTF, their whole poomse and forms are 100% same.

Don't act like you know something without seeking the truth.

[benelliman]

zpdldj wrote "Choi Hong Hi is communist. He Created ITF. no Created WTF. WTF is Taekkyun + Su bak. Su bak is korean tradition art too. ITF is many hand attack skill. but WTF is a little hand attack skill. WTF and ITF is no 100% same." and then removed his comment.

Choi is communist!? He was a GENERAL in the SOUTH KOREAN ARMY.

He fought for the SOUTH in Korean War.

AHAHAHA you're fucking stupid. LOL

[oshkaproductions]

No they aren't the same... The WTF has The Taeguk and Palgwe forms... Where as the ITF has the Hyungs.... learn yo shit bra

[benelliman]

Uh ya you learn your SHIT you idiot.

Why don't you review the TAE KWON DO TIMES, the official Tae Kwon Do Magazine of the world.

Look up General Choi Hong Hi.

You're one fucking idiot, you know that?

[benelliman]

/watch?v=MfNA10DJZn8

역사도 몰으나? 병신아!

[zpdldj]

한국인인가. 마침 잘됬다.

한국전쟁 직후 박정희랑 사이가 안좋아져서 월북한건 어떻게 설명할까?

[zpdldj]

뭐, 한국전쟁 직후는 아니다. 그건 정정.

[benelliman]

Sorry bro, I'm born in America. It's faster for me to write in English, you can respond in Korean if you want to.

IT doesn't remove the fact that General Choi Hong Hi created Tae Kwon Do and that he did not go to North Korea until the late 60's when President Park Chung Hee ousted him.

There is a history between them two.

You are avoiding the fact that the General is the one who created TKD.

[lgodofgtal]

wow sounds like ur deep into korean history for a 'banana'

[benelliman]

I'm just tired of people making up history to boost their own ego. Banana? in America, you call those who cannot speak their native tongue at all, a banana. in which case, I am not a banana.

니가누구라고 네한테 "banana"라 부로노?

와 한국에서 태여난 아는 곡 가짜 역사 빡에모루노마.

[GuamKomudo]

No one just thought of TKD, martial arts spred across asia from India. Indians tought Chinese, and it spred from their, to Korea, across the ocean to Japan, Okinawa, down to ThaiLand the Filipines. No one just said, "Im gonna make a fighting style today" =D You just copied Karate kicks and made it into a game... You even copied the Gi, its clothes Japanese put on dead people at their funerals, Samurai wore them to battle to show they wernt afraid to die, this carried over to the Karateka.

[benelliman]

TKD was influenced by Karate.

What are you talking about?

[GuamKomudo]

TKD is quite new, its quite modern, like I said, the martial arts styles spread across asia. Thats what makes them alittle different, but also alot the same. There is a side kick or a form of side kick in every asian martial art, same with the roundhouse and chop and takedowns. They are all one martial art, just changed slightly over time and by different cultures.

[jedjedduniec]

just to let you know martial arts did not spread from india at all. the chinese were doing the many different types of kung fu 2000 years before they came into contact with india or bodiharma.

[GuamKomudo]

Thats not true, the Indians tought the monks how to fight and that was the birth of Kung fu. An Indian Buddist monk visited a Chinese tempol and then he found out they were super weak and got robbed all the time and tought them excirsises and techniques, the Chinese took it from there into their own styles and animal styles and stuff.

[jedjedduniec]

well what really happen was that the chinese did have kung fu 2000 to 4000 years before they came into contact with india. but india did contribute in a very very big way. this is how, the chinese already had there great kung-fu but what they didnt have was the awsome controlled breathing techniques from yoga which the indians contributed to when they came into contact with each other.

[GuamKomudo]

Well of course, fighting techniques go WAY back. Every country, even before countries, people have fought, so people made ways to fight, techniques, moves. "Kung fu" goes back as far as humans do, but it wasent the kung fu we think of today. India mostly made the Chinese monks famous for their strange abilities and amazing super human skills, not so much the fighting techniques of kung fu.

[jedjedduniec]

i can agree with that. its nice to have a well developed debate with a educated person

[KYUNGILNAM]

TKD comes from Takkyun. we should discuss everything based on documents, not from assumption.

[GuamKomudo]

Take away lines of the country borders and they are basically all the same people.The techniques spred accros asia,its easy to see that all the eastern martial arts share similar techniques in mental and physical areas of the arts.Notice the western arts dont have the roundhouse kick,or the chop,but all the asian martial arts do,im sure they didnt just all randomly think of the same kick then all said"Wow cool,you thought of the exact same thing as us! How weird is that!"They tought eachother.

[KYUNGILNAM]

TKD is originated in Taekkyun.

[xerograf]

nice ...

[jeyboye]

This is my kinda martial art.

:D

[StephLE]

like capoeira - amazing

[Ouchchen]

Wow, impressive. And so amazing !

[Piotrek830324]

wow! how do the do that with all these kicks!

5/5 Stars specially 5 stars for the kick defense and throw!

[KraZKaiL]

wow, they make 540 and 720 look so easy

tho it's really hard to do

[Nuggi7777]

The first kick was just awesome!!! I've tried to do that myself and it is almost impossible!

[jaytong8]

now datz martial arts =]

[jujutsud]

wow awesome kicks and great techniques! Thanks for sharing

[Hanz0Ninja]

Good...

[takeninj]

that was awesome thanks for sharing that 5 stars.

[areamkarim]

effective?

[lkj098lkj]

Answer is yes. the power of techniques is based on flexibility. Flexiblity gives more agility.

[grapeace1]

It was banned by the Japanese during the occupation afterall. Not sure.

[zenofdarkness]

I want a taekkyun school in the US! It's not fair. The Koreans keep all their good fighting systems (besides hapkido and yudo) to themselves. Please share!!! =) I want to learn.

[cooks2006]

I second that

[krnx213]

i learned taekkyon in california

we had a small dojo but my grandmaster went bankrupt

[Tesseract25]

haha well thx for not putting us down but it's not really that we dont share xD we teach ppl n we go to the states n try to teach it u cant be strict at all.. cant hit the students.. all u can do is say it 100 times n the student still wont get it xD not saying hitting is the way to go but, it really helps sometimes. and just the styles like if an american dude learned it in korea n went to the states n taught, his satisfaction compared to the korean ppl's satisfaction wouldnt be the same xD

[pimpius250]

this is new, that guys are breaking stuff, isnt it?

my master told me, that taekkyon is using more a pushing force than hitting

[rlaeh288]

I also learn Taekkyun, and I don't have to push other person during emaluating. Maybe, you are learning Daehan Taekkyun, aren't you?

I am learning traditional Taekkyun.(원형보존회, 전통). My master says that I can hit everywhere with foot except vital places in your body. In only Daehan Taekkyun, you can't hit other people. Only you can do is pushing other with your foor, right?

[Taekkyon2coree]

I practice Daehan... in regular fights and competitions we "push" kick, which can leave you with bruises on the body. But during training with other high level students we may kick harder and more violently like in other martial arts... It's all about fixing the rules with the partner and controlling one's strength.

[tkwondave]

awesome!

[Max8Jizzy]

That's a crazy looking martial art.

[hushon]

where we can learn taekkyon in north america

[tekjon26]

the korea taekkyon association tried it once in usa,

but it will take a little bit time for them to try it again in the states, sorry to say this.

[UFMD1]

turtle press videos has a dvd to teach the basics and some advanced kicks, good luck.

[Windkick]

Great video!!

Thanx!!!

[bruie]

Thank you very much.

Beautiful martial art.

[RAxzibit]

Awesome keep em coming.

[ubersum1]

those kicks in particular, are tkd kicks adopted by the less popular taekkyun. its understandable, in order to continue popularity every martial art adopts techniques. however its important to note, taekkyun is pretty much the original kicking martial art.

[wingedsoul]

Oh my freakin gosh....tkd took the kicks from taekkyun. Dude, go read your korean history. Look up the three kingdoms era.

[ubersum1]

Yeah, actually i made reference to precisely this, in my original post. I said those particular jumping kicks, those trick kicks are of taekwondo origin. where tkd took influence of its kicks from taekkyon and other korean kicking systems, trick kicks originate from taekwondo.

[UFMD1]

How old is taekwondo and how old is taekkyon or sonmudo? Let's be real now.

[ubersum1]

tkd is 50 years old, taekyon is a few thousand years old. i know what im talking about though, how old are international demonstrations of martial arts? how old are olympic demonstrations? how long since martial arts became popular across the world? taekyon recently adopted these kicks. think before you downplay my comment >_>

[Vagabundbunt]

ubersum1 is right.

Taekkyon is older than Taekwondo, but recently (not more than 5 years ago) some TKD techniques are used in such demonstrations.

Origianally, there were mostly low kicks, take downs and "only" some jumps in Taekkyon. Take a look at old videos from the 70s or 80s - you won't see such jumps and TKD-like kicks.

In regular training class, most teachers do not teach TKD-like kicks. (The variety of orignal TN-Techniques is big enough ;-) )

[nadogi]

I didn't know taekkyon used all those spinning jump kicks like taekwondo.