I find it interesting that the Inuit, Tuvan, monogloian, and native siberians all have throat singing, when they are so far apart. It says something about where these people lived thousands of years ago!
that's not true. people think that eskimo means "eater of raw meat." That's not true. It's been traced back to mean either "Snowshoe netters" and "People who speak a different language." But in government usage, the term Inuit is used.
this type doesent really have a verbal meaning..there are other songs from other regions that do have a story being told.. but this isn't one of them..
inuit women took up throat singing when the men went off to hunt. apparently it may have even been a game (whoever laughs first loses). that's what professional inuit throat singers told me.
Another side note is that oros234 seems to imply only certain groups of people wage war. That would imply a logic that groups of people are alot more different from each other than they really are. I have seen the "native" Lakota tribe elders talk about fields where you can find many arrowheads still today and they weren't just fighting Europeans. In fact, there were even native tribes allied on each side of the American Civil War and all for their own self interests.
small point to the historians on here but the oldest skeleton found in north america was a scandinavian. good chance they were killed of by the "native" peoples who came over from the land bar connecting siberian and alaska. no big deal but it is easy to research.
Oldest in North America? Far from it. There have been lots of human remain discoveries, the oldest NA skeleton dating 13,000 years, found in Mexico. It is thought to be of Caucasian decent. - Asides, different migrations and different historical events lead to the rise and downfall of different peoples. It's a natural phenomenon.
Actually, I'm afraid you're both wrong, there. The oldest remains found in North America are approximately 13,000 years old, called the Arlington Springs Man, and they seem to support the theory of the Americas being populated by coastal migration. The remains were found on Santa Rosa Island off the coast of California...and he was definitely not "caucasian."
And as a side note, I should add that if you want to research this sort of thing...while wikipedia seems a good jumping off point, I'd go for a more reliable source, such as a university database of professional journals of archaeology and anthropology (and no, Archeology Magazine is NOT an academic source, though a great read sometimes.) Anything reccomended by the American Anthropological Association is good.
Umm, the only person who looked on Wikipedia was you. It's actually the Arlington Springs Woman, not man. If you care so much, look up Peñon Woman III; her origins (also 13 000 years) have been debated, sometimes "thought" to be of 'caucasian' decent, other times originating from Australia, or east Asia. (note: the emphasis on "thought") - On any account, a human remain alone won't prove nor disprove the first people ever to have landed in the americas.
Actually, the scientist who said it was a "woman" later decided it was a "man." In various archaeoology texts that, as an archaeology student I have lying all over my house...both names have been applied. And there's still no evidence that a European settled here before any known paleo-Indian or paleo-American peoples. As I said...wikipedia's a good starting point if you're interested in this sort of thing, but a journal's more reliable. It wasn't intended to be nasty.
Also, I'd never heard of Peñon Woman III, and while my particular interest in archaeology is focused in the ancient Mediterranean, I do like hearing news about the debate over the oldest migrations to North America. I will have a look, thank you.
Yeah, if I could have edited the Arlington Springs Woman comment, I would have, since I found that out after posting. Sorry if my reply came off a bit rude though, but either way, neither of these human remains will directly prove the oldest migrations, just help to back their theories.
No official studies have been released since the original announcement of the carbon-dated discovery in 2001, which may explain why it won't appear in whichever database. You can however, check the New England Antiquities Research Association's website at neara [dot] org / MiscReports / penonwoman [dot] htm ; but you'd probably have more luck looking through pages off Google or books (although usually just briefly mentioned, as in the book Indians in the Americas by William Marder).
and you're right; we'll probably never prove who was here "first." New evidence turns up all the time that puts the current theories into question, so really, all any of these scientists can do is back their theories with as much evidence as they can find. Something said in my Archaeology: Fact or Fiction class is pertinent, here: we never really prove theories; we just disprove some hypotheses and fail to disprove others. Hope I worded that right.
I'm sorry, but I've searched three different databases, one of them strictly an anthropology database, and still haven't found anything on Peñon Woman III. Could you please give me a source to look for? Thanks!
This was very interesing. A really great performance. I only knew of throat singing from Tuva as Richard Feinman was very interested in that. I did not know that it is also done among the inuit.
More "civilized." Hmmm, what do you mean by that? The Europeans called themselves "civilized" yet waged war on the Natives cultures, and who called them all kinds of nasty things, and didn't they try to "civilize" the Natives? Look what the so-called civilizations have done to the Earth's many wonderful cultures. I think we need to re-think the word "civilized".
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! They sound like seals!!! Come on! This NOT throat singing. And I used to think Eskimos were just as civilized as Chukchis or Nenets or {geographically} in between. Well NO! I'm not saying I don't like Eskimos, I just don't like the Culture. They can't even learn to herd reindeer?! Saamis, Nenets, Chuckchis all did that AND their throat singing sounds better than Eskimo's. The one thing about Eskimo culture I like is that they hunt seals humanely, unlike the Canadians.
ok and what is your culture? eating in front the tv and listening cheap pop music ? as for the hunt seals, your steak that you eat in front the tv, does it come from a cow tthat you kill humanely?????????????????
Sitting in front of the TV, eating in front of the TV, listening to pop music, none of those are for me. 1. I don't have a TV and I don't want one. Fishing, berries, mushrooms, are more interesting. 2. I eat at a table and I don't like fast food. 3. I listen to traditional Christian music (in Russian, not on youtube), as well as Folksongs of the former USSR. I think you misenterpretted me about seals; I said that I LIKE the way that Eskimos hunt seals, it's humane, UNLIKE Canadians.
And if my culture was the culture you mentioned, why would I be even slightly interested in learning about other cultures (and comparing them) and caring to watch videos like this one?
Excuse me but the Inuit people live in Canada too, so they are Canadian as well. The NWT, Nunavut and the Yukon are all part of Canada. And just because they have a different style of throat singing does not mean it is not throat singing. What does herding reindeer have to do with anything?
You see, it's harder to tame reindeer than to hunt caribou. So, in that way, North Asians are more civilized than Eskimos or Inuit. Now, being a hunter-gatherer itself is not necessarily uncivilized, North Asians besides herding reindeer also fish and pick berries and mushrooms. And I like their throat singing better. If you like something more primitive better, then, that's ok. Eskimo throat singing is still better than some other things like rap (judging by content and style).
roxchier145: Nothing racist about it. If he doesn't like it then he probably doesn't like the culture, but that doesn't mean that he hates Eskimos in general (I don't hate Eskimos either). Also, Eskimos aren't really a race, rather, an ethnicity.
I find it interesting that the Inuit, Tuvan, monogloian, and native siberians all have throat singing, when they are so far apart. It says something about where these people lived thousands of years ago!
kardancer1 1 year ago
@kardancer1 Yeah... Mongolia lol
AshillaBeige 7 months ago
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stupid...
13allerbaby 2 years ago
that's not true. people think that eskimo means "eater of raw meat." That's not true. It's been traced back to mean either "Snowshoe netters" and "People who speak a different language." But in government usage, the term Inuit is used.
thaCIAguy 2 years ago
it meanas blubber eater in inuit
DougieDannyLover 2 years ago
Don't you know that the word Eskimo is a derogatory term, for the Inuit people? Is like referring to a black person as a Nigger.
piontro 2 years ago
I never knew that.
0pteryx 2 years ago
i would love to learn this, i like the tone im a white girl but have some indian in me from generations back.
thehumanracesux 2 years ago
is that a man?
GoldRainDrops17 3 years ago
yes it is, thats my aunt Koomoo and my cousin Elaisa
1hawtmomma 2 years ago
i dont get it =P which one is your aunt?
GoldRainDrops17 2 years ago
oops.. sorry..my mistake, I meant to say thats my cousin Elaisa and my aunt Koomoo
1hawtmomma 2 years ago
haha their body stance suggest that they are really really cold i have a feeling i know why this started
alauclair 3 years ago
its also use for love making sound in case you don't know. i've tried and man it awsome.
koty2007tube 3 years ago
not true..
GoldRainDrops17 3 years ago
who told you that? these are my ppl and we do not use throat singing when we're love making.
1hawtmomma 2 years ago
Its so cool...but i want to know...those it has a story? or what'S the meaning of that type of signing???
BoliviAnnyta 3 years ago
this type doesent really have a verbal meaning..there are other songs from other regions that do have a story being told.. but this isn't one of them..
GoldRainDrops17 3 years ago
inuit women took up throat singing when the men went off to hunt. apparently it may have even been a game (whoever laughs first loses). that's what professional inuit throat singers told me.
caitthecat 2 years ago
look up 'Inuit Throat Singing - Atlin, British Columbia' on YouTube, it'll tell you everything you need to know about Inuit throat singing
1hawtmomma 2 years ago
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"Your breath smells like seal blubber"
carolm2008 3 years ago
Another side note is that oros234 seems to imply only certain groups of people wage war. That would imply a logic that groups of people are alot more different from each other than they really are. I have seen the "native" Lakota tribe elders talk about fields where you can find many arrowheads still today and they weren't just fighting Europeans. In fact, there were even native tribes allied on each side of the American Civil War and all for their own self interests.
rorman13 3 years ago
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Oh yeah, thats some real talent right there. Sounds more like a "sexless" FUCK.
fattdaddy3755 3 years ago
they're doing a better job than your daddy did, clearly.
gloomyoutlook 3 years ago
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hey gloomy...lick my balls bitch
fattdaddy3755 3 years ago
I'm Yupik eskimo. means yuut = the people as well
fr3ak0s 3 years ago
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FAGGGGGGGGGOOOOTTTTTT
tetsuichi 3 years ago
small point to the historians on here but the oldest skeleton found in north america was a scandinavian. good chance they were killed of by the "native" peoples who came over from the land bar connecting siberian and alaska. no big deal but it is easy to research.
rorman13 4 years ago
Oldest in North America? Far from it. There have been lots of human remain discoveries, the oldest NA skeleton dating 13,000 years, found in Mexico. It is thought to be of Caucasian decent. - Asides, different migrations and different historical events lead to the rise and downfall of different peoples. It's a natural phenomenon.
Dzakku 4 years ago
Actually, I'm afraid you're both wrong, there. The oldest remains found in North America are approximately 13,000 years old, called the Arlington Springs Man, and they seem to support the theory of the Americas being populated by coastal migration. The remains were found on Santa Rosa Island off the coast of California...and he was definitely not "caucasian."
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
And as a side note, I should add that if you want to research this sort of thing...while wikipedia seems a good jumping off point, I'd go for a more reliable source, such as a university database of professional journals of archaeology and anthropology (and no, Archeology Magazine is NOT an academic source, though a great read sometimes.) Anything reccomended by the American Anthropological Association is good.
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
Umm, the only person who looked on Wikipedia was you. It's actually the Arlington Springs Woman, not man. If you care so much, look up Peñon Woman III; her origins (also 13 000 years) have been debated, sometimes "thought" to be of 'caucasian' decent, other times originating from Australia, or east Asia. (note: the emphasis on "thought") - On any account, a human remain alone won't prove nor disprove the first people ever to have landed in the americas.
Dzakku 3 years ago
Actually, the scientist who said it was a "woman" later decided it was a "man." In various archaeoology texts that, as an archaeology student I have lying all over my house...both names have been applied. And there's still no evidence that a European settled here before any known paleo-Indian or paleo-American peoples. As I said...wikipedia's a good starting point if you're interested in this sort of thing, but a journal's more reliable. It wasn't intended to be nasty.
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
Also, I'd never heard of Peñon Woman III, and while my particular interest in archaeology is focused in the ancient Mediterranean, I do like hearing news about the debate over the oldest migrations to North America. I will have a look, thank you.
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
Yeah, if I could have edited the Arlington Springs Woman comment, I would have, since I found that out after posting. Sorry if my reply came off a bit rude though, but either way, neither of these human remains will directly prove the oldest migrations, just help to back their theories.
Dzakku 3 years ago
No official studies have been released since the original announcement of the carbon-dated discovery in 2001, which may explain why it won't appear in whichever database. You can however, check the New England Antiquities Research Association's website at neara [dot] org / MiscReports / penonwoman [dot] htm ; but you'd probably have more luck looking through pages off Google or books (although usually just briefly mentioned, as in the book Indians in the Americas by William Marder).
Dzakku 3 years ago
Thank you, I'll have to take a look at that, then!
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
and you're right; we'll probably never prove who was here "first." New evidence turns up all the time that puts the current theories into question, so really, all any of these scientists can do is back their theories with as much evidence as they can find. Something said in my Archaeology: Fact or Fiction class is pertinent, here: we never really prove theories; we just disprove some hypotheses and fail to disprove others. Hope I worded that right.
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but I've searched three different databases, one of them strictly an anthropology database, and still haven't found anything on Peñon Woman III. Could you please give me a source to look for? Thanks!
jessixexmachina 3 years ago
This was very interesing. A really great performance. I only knew of throat singing from Tuva as Richard Feinman was very interested in that. I did not know that it is also done among the inuit.
homousios 4 years ago
More "civilized." Hmmm, what do you mean by that? The Europeans called themselves "civilized" yet waged war on the Natives cultures, and who called them all kinds of nasty things, and didn't they try to "civilize" the Natives? Look what the so-called civilizations have done to the Earth's many wonderful cultures. I think we need to re-think the word "civilized".
oros234 4 years ago 6
COOL!
19910620 4 years ago
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! They sound like seals!!! Come on! This NOT throat singing. And I used to think Eskimos were just as civilized as Chukchis or Nenets or {geographically} in between. Well NO! I'm not saying I don't like Eskimos, I just don't like the Culture. They can't even learn to herd reindeer?! Saamis, Nenets, Chuckchis all did that AND their throat singing sounds better than Eskimo's. The one thing about Eskimo culture I like is that they hunt seals humanely, unlike the Canadians.
nondenominational 4 years ago
ok and what is your culture? eating in front the tv and listening cheap pop music ? as for the hunt seals, your steak that you eat in front the tv, does it come from a cow tthat you kill humanely?????????????????
peperpotte 4 years ago
Sitting in front of the TV, eating in front of the TV, listening to pop music, none of those are for me. 1. I don't have a TV and I don't want one. Fishing, berries, mushrooms, are more interesting. 2. I eat at a table and I don't like fast food. 3. I listen to traditional Christian music (in Russian, not on youtube), as well as Folksongs of the former USSR. I think you misenterpretted me about seals; I said that I LIKE the way that Eskimos hunt seals, it's humane, UNLIKE Canadians.
nondenominational 4 years ago
And if my culture was the culture you mentioned, why would I be even slightly interested in learning about other cultures (and comparing them) and caring to watch videos like this one?
nondenominational 4 years ago
Excuse me but the Inuit people live in Canada too, so they are Canadian as well. The NWT, Nunavut and the Yukon are all part of Canada. And just because they have a different style of throat singing does not mean it is not throat singing. What does herding reindeer have to do with anything?
diagonallion 4 years ago 5
You see, it's harder to tame reindeer than to hunt caribou. So, in that way, North Asians are more civilized than Eskimos or Inuit. Now, being a hunter-gatherer itself is not necessarily uncivilized, North Asians besides herding reindeer also fish and pick berries and mushrooms. And I like their throat singing better. If you like something more primitive better, then, that's ok. Eskimo throat singing is still better than some other things like rap (judging by content and style).
nondenominational 4 years ago
Well said!
tuffdogg7 4 years ago
whatever we hunt seals and we respect them and its not eskimo its alaska native or inuit
rosebabe1990 4 years ago
It's good that you respect them. Keep respecting them.
Is "Eskimo" offensive?
nondenominational 4 years ago
To some it is. "Eskimo" means 'eats raw meat'. Whereas "Inuit" means 'the people'.
Eskimo is a fairly archaic term these days, but I know a few people who refer to themselves as Eskimo still.
Aikidopoi 4 years ago
inuits not eskimos ARE Canadian,,, aren't they?
nadinerexxx 4 years ago
YES!!! wtf are you american?!?!
Jordon0670 4 years ago
nondenominational, what is your nationality again?
boromidsilk 4 years ago
Slavic
nondenominational 4 years ago
wow...this is kinda....strange..
Sulimaaren 4 years ago
i was totally there when this took place i was a youth delegate for the symposium.. the vid doens't do it justice
kaw921 4 years ago
Fucking awesome, this is great :D
KlankOntwerp 4 years ago
omg it is not fucking stupid!! if u think that then ur a racist!!!
roxchier145 4 years ago
roxchier145: Nothing racist about it. If he doesn't like it then he probably doesn't like the culture, but that doesn't mean that he hates Eskimos in general (I don't hate Eskimos either). Also, Eskimos aren't really a race, rather, an ethnicity.
nondenominational 4 years ago
Umm... Are they ok? Do they have Athsma?
yutzwagon2 4 years ago
a form of rhythmic inuit singing using breaths. A back and forth singing game.
Isaia 4 years ago
thewiz202 you are stupid
sarahtukalak 4 years ago
now this is like back in iqaluit
halowars11 4 years ago
Admittedly hard to appreciate, but fascinating all the same. I would like to find out the rationale behind this kind of singing.
pitcalco 4 years ago
Its Fucking Stupid
thewiz202 4 years ago
you only find it stupid because you dont understand it.
kmrttp 4 years ago
Don't be an ass, thewiz202.
thefinewino 4 years ago
It's just amazing.
svaud097 4 years ago
wow, that's really neat!
MandaPanda1306 4 years ago
now i understand why theres two ppl. Its just like these arctic animals. Sealions and stuff... :P (Just a thought that occured to me)
DragonWorshipper 4 years ago