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  • especially illegal immigrants that have been exploited and lied and despised by ignorant stupid racist people... 

  • The real philanthropists in our society are the people who work for less than they can actually live on. Because they are giving of their time, their energy, and their talents, so people like you can be dressed well, fed cheaply and so on. They're giving to you! - Barbara Ehrenreich

  • You know, the best present I got this year came from a lady who worked the night cleaning crew...... I really made me think.

  • She should try living in Lanett, Alabama.

  • Sobering.

  • The state of poverty is obscene in the richest country in the world. What you are seeing is the roots of the Occupy Movement.

  • Awesome excerpt from the The American Ruling Class.........

    but what does that have to do with that new album we've been searching for?

    haven't you seen the filth the people have to listen to? jive around and our asses eat dirt!

  • Yet, politicians like Herman Cain say that everyone has it in them to become wealthy! Not everyone can be CEO. Republicans & Tea Party are against Unions - who ensure that people earn a "living wage" with medical & retirement benefits. This should be an outrage to every American - but as we have seen in the debates, there is no empathy for those who are at the bottom...

  • Glad to see people here who actually know the truth- & don't buy the propaganda from either side.

  • I have been a fan of Barbara Ehrenreich ever since I read _Nickled_and_Dimed_. She is a voice in the wilderness.

  • Americas income inequality is on the rise.

  • 2 things are happening to American jobs that are contributing to the disappearing middle-class in this country:

    1. Most of the jobs have been outsourced to foreign countries who will work for even LOWER slave wages.

    2. The massive influx of illegal immigrants (primarily from Mexico). Employers hire them b/c they have no legal rights and are therefore willing to accept less pay, which drives down job wages even lower than they already were. I live in TX and we've been flooded with illegals.

  • @Yrhp8268 your number 2 is the biggest myth propagated by the right

    illegals who work, do the jobs Americans feel their to good for.

    big corporations would rather hire sweat shop workers at a dollar a month, and leave their profits offseas so it can't be taxes, thus creating revenue issues for states, which resort to massive cuts to the public sector.

  • @brysonisSXE It's hardly a myth considering I witness it every single day here in TX. For instance, 20 years ago you could get a meat packing job in TX for roughly TWENTY dollars an hour. Now, the companies hire mostly Mexican illegals which has plummeted the wages of meat packing to minimum wage. That's just ONE example of several. Plus, who worked those jobs long before illegals came and took them over? AMERICANS. But illegals drive down the wages that Americans can't live on...

  • @brysonisSXE I even have an uncle who owns his own landscaping business, and even HE admits that he hires illegals because they'll accept lower pay than what a regular American citizen would accept.... aka SLAVE WAGES.

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  • yeah it all sucks, makes me suicidal.

  • Most of the problem is Americans are afraid of the free market. America has regulated it's self out of the market place. I live in Thailand and here for around $30 a Thai can start selling pork on a stick on the side of the road and expand from there. That would be impossible in America. And most Americans think what will save the day is more gov and more regulations.

  • Playing harmonica in the kitchen isnt sanitary and, when working with others, can get your ass kicked.

  • "livable wage"?? Seriously?? It's called "Survivable" at best! And Ooooh, $25 a week in the green! If she doesn't buy clothes, see a movie, buy Christmas presents, have to get her car repaired, assuming she has one, OR get seriously injured or sick, then in about 400 years she can maybe buy a shanty in a Guatemalan slum and relax for a change!~

  • @transientdreams Remember this was based on 1998 or so. Wages have not increased since then, 14 yrs later. So that $25 left over.....well, it ain't so much, probably more like $5 with the cost of everything that has gone up since then. Did you see the 1.79 for gas??? We WISH! lol

  • She did out her budget. In the end, she comes out 25$ in the green per week. That means that the wage is a livable wage.

  • This is the real face of AMERIKA! Aint it purdy!?

  • It's the dirty big business owners that are killing the country. Yeah sure they can pay an illegal cheap. What people fail to realize it that the illegal alien is going to send half of that money back to Mexico to support his family. It doesn't get circulated in the U.S. and that causes other business owners to suffer and even go out of business. Ever seen illegal aliens eat at upscale restaurants. I'm just using that as an example. But they have no problem spending it on booze.

  • AmeriKa is no longer a capitalist country, it's communist. You have capitalism when you have factories that turn raw materials into finished products, we used to have those jobs in America and they paid fairly well. Those jobs are now being worked by communist China at slave wages, NOT by Americans. Yet our government allows illegal aliens into our country to drive down wages and steal what jobs we have left.

  • They forgot the TAX the Government takes from you too. So really you would have nothing left at the end of the week.

  • @iiguns and also social security. I think SS should be optional. Hell, by the time most people qualify for it.... they've been dead for 10 years or more. It was all engineered that way so you'll hopefully die and not get paid. I believe it was Henry Kissinger that came up with the social security scam.

  • I see no mention of importing millions of 3rd world replacement workers. You think this has no affect on wages?

  • We need to end the federal reserve which is the cause of our problems and check out "Web of Debt" and "The Secret of Oz, Solutions For a Broken Economy" right here on youtube along with "The One Percent". 

  • Here's the #1 problem and the real truth. The money and the banking system is based on debt. Money=Debt and Debt=Money. For secrets that the banksters on Wall Street (Goldman Sachs which is too big to fail for example), please watch "The Money Masters" and read "Billions For the Bankers, Debts For the People" by Sheldon Emry and watch "The American Dream" cartoon also on youtube which is only 30 mins. "Economic Solutions" by Peter Kershaw and "Money as Debt 1, 2, 3 are here on youtube too.

  • I usually hate this tired comment but "42 people are in denial"

  • @boosomentity

    But 780 are not! Excellent stats!

  • Lewis Lapham, the smooth older 'suit' in the show, is not an actor, remember, he is as high up in New York cultural circles as you can get. He has evidently had a change of heart himself. Because 25 years ago he was writing in his editorials in 'Harper Magazine' that the destruction of the U.S. industrial base, and shipping skilled jobs off to Mexico or China (yes, folks, it started way back then) -- well, that was fine with Mr. Lapham. He said the U.S. would prosper in "the service economy."

  • She also makes a claim that holds no merit whatsoever- there are ALL sorts of jobs that are unskilled. The waitress job, for example- IS an unskilled job. Just because you have to learn a job, that doesn't make it a "skilled" position. But, if ANYONE can do it with minimal amount of training, that makes it unskilled. The diff between skilled and unskilled is there is no cost incurred in the unskilled job, as we're ALL BORN unskilled. Which reflects itself in the salary level.

  • This is dumb. You're paid what your labor is worth. If you're in a job that any idiot can do, you're going to get paid a much smaller amount, because the demand for your labor is always going to be high.

    Let's not forget, Ehrenreich is a proud socialist, so what she really wants is pure socialism...fortunately, history has proven that socialism is a massive failure that hurts everyone except a small ruling class.

  • @jboze3131 lets forget you are a total moron without civil society"society"breaks down

    read about the roman empire plutocracy destroyed it no invading force did

    capitalism is socialism for the rich

    the rich do not create jobs they inflate the cost of products and services

    they are just the middle men!

    people are going to learn shortly what happens when society isnt civil anymore

    see what capitalists dont understand-is destruction of the middle class is the destruction of themselves

  • @fatherdeath1973 bologna. the prices for goods and services are what they are because the market (ie consumers) pay those prices. this destruction of the middle class stuff is bunk. ive never been in a house that didnt have a big screen TV. i personally dont know anyone who doesnt own a cell phone. point is- the middle class, for the most part, is in decent shape in our overly materialistic society as it is.

  • @jboze3131

    Another one who doesn't get it. The people referred to in the documentary/musical cannot even aspire to joining "the middle-class" who are disappearing before your very eyes anyway. They are an underclass who are all but invisible to the likes of you who might momentarily take notice only when they're dissatisfied with "the service".

  • @SuperMachead Where is the evidence that they cannot aspire to join the middle class? They certainly can, and many people work their way into the middle class.

  • @jboze3131

    Our current system is also a massive failure that hurts everyone except a small ruling class. DUH.

  • @jboze3131

    Did you just actually say that "socialism is a massive failure that hurts everyone except a small ruling class"? Take a look around you, bozo, and replace "socialism" with "American capitalism". The US has failed and is in its downward spiral into the history books as did Rome and Greece.

  • @SuperMachead It's amusing, isn't it, that some people do not recognize the class system created by capitalism?

  • *liked* in a dislike kind of way. I had to read part of her book for a sociology class.

  • I would move to the woods and live as hunter gatherer before I work in the food industry.

  • @purplestarxxx2002 that was a corrupt version of Marxism, not socialism. Believe it or not, but there's a difference and one failed nation doesn't invalidate the theory.

  • There are both costs and benefits to minimum wage legislation. Those who get to keep their jobs do see an increase in their salary, which could help them support themselves and their family while they could have previously been unable to do so fully. The standard of living (as measured by the amounts of goods and services available and affordable) of those who keep their jobs would be increased. A serious cost of the minimum wage is borne by those who lose their jobs.

  • @TheKyteler

    No. You aren't talking about reality. You're talking about a this, or that, form of problem solving. You haven't accounted for greed. I work at a pizza place. We charge about ten bucks for a large pizza with one topping. That real cost is maybe as much as two or three dollars in food, and by the average labor dollar at our store an additional dollar or two in labor (including work to do dough, prep ingredients etc.). At about 4 or 5 dollars, we're talking 200%.

  • @snoman99991 I am talking about reality. Economics shows that minimum wage increases will cause the employment in the country to go down, due to the increased costs. The youth who vie for these jobs won't be able to get this crucial foothold into the employment market and experience. The workers will loose their jobs and be unable to provide for their families.

    That 200% is fine. Its enough to cover all the costs. The factors of production are land, labor, capital and entrepreneurial skill

  • @TheKyteler I love the way some people like you can sound so rational in their arguments supporting the status quo when the reality is that they are so self-centred that they cannot even see the numbers of Americans living in near-Third World poverty. Americans like you are too blind to see HOW ASHAMED THEY SHOULD BE that this occurs in this day and age in their country. They just don't get it!

  • @SuperMachead I just don't get what? That increasing minimum wage would increase unemployment, reduce the opportunities for the youth, and in net be a drag on the economy in general?

    Re. Poverty in America. As having lived in close to third world squalor (in South Africa), I frankly find it offensive that you would compare our "poverty" to that of the third world.

  • @TheKyteler Comparisons to the third world as you put it are offensive because they are irrelevant. The people in poverty in the US are suffering, regardless of how much others are suffering. Maybe critical thinking isn't your strong suit?

  • @MrGrevy If you read the original context, I was stating that the comparison SOMEONE ELSE made was stupid. 'Suffering' of the poor in the US is defiantly not even close to as bad as the 'suffering' of the people in the third world. The comment I was replying to stated that suffering in the US is at the same level of the suffering in the Third world

  • @SuperMachead The average poor household lives in a house or apartment with air conditioning, cable television, a car, two color TVs, a DVD player, a VCR, a microwave, refrigerator, oven, stove, and more living space than the average European. Surveys indicate they have enough money in the past year to meet all essential needs. The average intake of protein, vitamins and minerals by poor children is indistinguishable from that of kids in the upper middle class.

  • @TheKyteler when it comes to the nutrient intake, quality definitely matters over quantity. sure they may get "fortified" milk, their kool-aid has "vitamin c" in it, etc. but just bc the nutrients are listed on the box doesn't mean that the quality of what the kids are getting is the same as would be available from some other choices.

  • @snoopyloopy plus the fact that many nutrients have little or no effect when taken on their own but require an assortment of other nutrients to work.

  • @snoopyloopy Your point? My point was that poor Americans are not living in 'near third world poverty' (someone had posted something along the lines of there being a large %age of Americans in third world poverty). Third world poverty is living off 1 slice of bread a day. Third world poverty is literally trying to eat dirt to survive. Third world poverty is not obesity, which is the bigger problem among our poor.

  • @TheSAMathematician You obviously have no concept of poverty in America. Comparisons are irrelevant.

  • @MrGrevy Again, if you read the context, I was saying that the original comparison made was faulty. Someone said Americans live in third world poverty. I was simply saying that this is not true. You offer no counter evidence. Any logical person would look at that statement and deem it false. In no way can you say ' americans are suffering as much as the third world'. I was simply calling out this gross inaccuracy. Please read the context of my statements before attacking them

  • @snoopyloopy cont. While yes the poor could be getting better food, comparing them to third world poverty is offensive.

  • @TheKyteler Where did you find this "information"? Are you implying that there is no real poverty in the US?

  • @MrGrevy Various sources, including government survey data, census bureau data, and cnn. I'd post some links, but for some reason youtube doesn't allow that. You can look up my claims for yourself though.

    Poverty does exist in the US, but it isn't as bad as @SuperMachead stated it was. All I was saying is that (s)he grossly exaggerated the amount of poverty in the US in his comments.

  • @SuperMachead In most cases, the average intake of protein, vitamins and minerals by poor children is well above recommended norms. The main dietary problem faced by poor Americans is eating too much, not too little. The majority of poor adults, like most Americans, are overweight. This is in no way third world poverty. Third world poverty is not having any food, not having shelter etc.

    I am not ashamed at the fact that the average poor person here has more than the average person in Europe.

  • @TheKyteler Yeah but your kind of missing the point that the quality of food is so low for poor people, they receive little of the nutrients they need, and get tons of unhealthy junk instead. I am not disagreeing that there is a difference between abject poverty and relative poverty, but when you look at the overall cost of medical problems and loss of quality of life, the two are much more comparable. Your basic hypothesis is that its better to be a nation of cripples, than a starving nation.

  • @subnoize123 Life expectancy in America is 78 years. Life expectancy in the third world varies between 45 and 55 years. As I've already stated, and believe you agree with, third world poverty is abject total poverty. My point re. the nutritional intake was that we are not in third world poverty (someone had posted something along the lines of there being a large %age of Americans in third world poverty, its somewhere lower on the thread if you are willing to look for it).

  • @subnoize123 So while the poor can have better food, comparing their situation to the third world is frankly offensive. That is all I was pointing out. If you look at cost of medical programs etc, abject poverty is still much worse. The average Somalian would trade their lives with the poor American any day. Look at all the stuff owned by average poor Americans (air conditioning, cable television, a car, two color TVs, a DVD player, a VCR, a microwave, refrigerator, oven, stove)

  • @TheSAMathematician How about you take a step back for a second, and instead of comparing a third world nation to a first world nation, which yes the of course the disparity between individual poverty will be great, you compare the U.S.A to other first world nations and see how they compare. It is very easy to make someone a giant if you compare them to the shortest kid in the class.

  • @subnoize123 In comparison the average third world citizen is lucky to have anything more than a mud "home" (if you can call it a home). I believe my original point still stands.

  • @snoman99991 The costs associated are rent, wage, interest and normal profit. You accounted for raw materials and the wage. You forgot to account for the initial capital and land investments. You also forget to account for normal profit. Doing something has an opportunity cost (ie risk). The return on investment is justified.

    While greed is real, you must not put on blinders against the consequences of your actions. In this case, the road to hell is paved with good intentions

  • @TheKyteler

    So the point I'm making here is that minimum wage SHOULD be increased to reflect both inflation and the changing distribution of wealth in the country. I think most people forget that the distribution of wealth IS changing. Rich are getting richer, and lower to middle class families are struggling to even stay in a home, let alone put together strong plans for the future. When bountiful careers are nowhere to be found, the minimum wage is an important security net.

  • @snoman99991 Yes the distribution of wealth in this country is changing, but minimum wage changes would harm those you are trying to help. We are in an unemployment crisis. You real think increasing costs of production will spur the investment required to get out of this crisis? That idea is insane.

    While the rich are getting richer, over the last 50 years the poor have also been getting richer (albeit at a slower rate).

    As I have shown, the costs of min wage far outweigh the benefits

  • While some minimum wage workers are working to provide for their family and survive, the majority are teenagers. It is likely that these teenagers are not working to provide for themselves or their families, as their parents are normally the main breadwinners. These teenagers are looking for some pocket money for amenities. While an increase in minimum wage may not have a significant impact on their lives, losing their jobs will detriment their lives.

  • I worked for MLOL.Com for many years and still got treated like shit by everyone. I had to deal with brokers and got shit canned for my attendance by a manager that was too busy going to school in the local police academy to keep track of what was going on with us at merrill lynch. I almost was transferred to building 7. Thank the lord I didn't get blown up by the U.S. government to set the world into fear mode.

  • She foretold the #occupy Movement years ago. That time has arrived.

  • So who is the real PHILANTHROPIST ?

  • I need to memorize this song and sing it at my job everyday......damn right...it about time someone talks about this.....

  • This wouldn't have happened if we had socialism.

  • instead of talking. you should all try to be out DOING after seeing this video. this should spur you on as to what you can do to try to change the situation for your kids, future and stop supporting the systems that are bleeding you.

  • I love the indictment of Clinton economics

  • wonderful

    

  • So we should pay waiters and cooks $20 per hr and breakfast would cost $50. If you work hard you will be rewarded. If you put in as much time bettering yourself as you do whining about it you would have what you think you are worth. Funny, it's so bad in America, but everyone in the world wants to come here.

  • @lonestar3164 Bullshit. I've worked for minimum wage supporting no one but myself. I carried a cellphone who's number was only known to my job, and no house line. I had no TV (Preference, not need), and learned about a hundred recipes for Ramen Noodles. I had a savings of about -150 because I was constantly in debt... though Wachovia had a little something to do with that bit.

  • @lonestar3164 There are a lot of people all around the world that don't want to live there and I'm one of them. I lived and work in Florida for 4 month and I'm glad I'm back home. I might not have a good economy, but at least I can be happy here. To be honest the only thing I really liked there was the good music on the radio.

  • I hear the ex-governor on the radio talk about when Electrolux wanted to move their factory, the biggest factory making refridgerators in North America, from Michigan to Mexico. They offered Electrolux a HUGE list of benefits, including NO TAXES OF ANY KIND for 20 years. Electrolux said no thanks because you can't compete with $2/hour wages.

  • the sad part is people could change the world, but most don't care enough to even get involved. what is the #1 product of America? Apathy!

  • capitalism is the most evil diabolical system ever devised by the human mind of all the 4 communism, socialism, fascism, capitalism is the the most insidious, i may not live to see its demise but it will be the greatest time in the human existence. and the human race will be able to evolve.

  • I thought theory of Socialism died with the break up of the Soviet Union, but I can see it is alive and well in American Universities and Obama's followers. Of course you socialist wannabes have never lived real Socialism like N.Korea, Cuba or Vietnam so you are totally clueless. I hope America survives Obama.

  • @purplestarxxx2002 Real socialism looks more like Denmark, Norway and Sweden. I don't see vast gaps of inequality in those societies like I do in America.

  • "And I'd rather live a life of crime then just get nickel'd and dined." If there were ever a socialist revolution then this should be it's rallying cry.

  • Who else realized that it was Ihop?

  • Can't wait to read the book! Voltaire's quote is spot on (the comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor).

  • I wish I could hear the dialogue in the clip. What happened to the sound?

  • the dollar is trash how much can you buy with no house people that make

    $50,000 a yr have $60 in the bank

  • Waitresses got paid $2.25 in 1988? Today they get paid $3.50 the hour. one dollar and a quarter raise after two decades...LOL

  • posted before the crash sep 2008 and oct 2008

  • I just got outsourced and my Union left me out to dry. FTW!

  • Did anybody catch the Donkey Kong shirt at 6:52?

  • Obama was obviously bought by the ruling class - he brought us two new wars and has gotten us deeper into the ones Bush started. He bailed out the banks but didn't bail out Americans who were losing their homes or their jobs. It's sad. I bought the hype. It's clear no one can be president if they are not going to serve the interests of the ruling class because so many of the working class have bought the myths they are continually sold.

  • Enough with the "It's Obama's fault" crap. He's not some all-powerful monarch dictator who makes every decision, especially with regard to the economy. This issue has been around long before Obama was even born. It's the continued existence of the bureaucratic elite who have always called the shots in this country. While they were responsible with the power for most of American history, at some point in the last 50 years, they began to make decisions solely based on their own self-interests.

  • We need to bring manufacturing back home. It started with NAFTA and just got worse. The saddest thing is that the harm caused by so called free trade is not even a political issue anymore.

  • time for a revolution! bring down the empire now!!

  • They don't have to //do// anything to dump wages into the toilet any time they want, because any vestige of classical supply/demand does not operate AT ALL in the fraud-theft Federal Reserve Marxist System.

  • Please people look into the at the response to this womans book.

    watch?v=L18H_-LxycU

  • @EasyEs I'm sorry but my mom immigrated to this country 30 years ago working odd jobs, then as a housewife, then divorcing and getting a minimum wage. She then got a job which pays 4 dollars more per hour. Been there for 10 years, hardly raised the wage. She buys stuff from the dollar store and now were living on food stamps. She earns enough to get by but there's hardly any money left over. The American dream does not exist. Working hard doesn't cut it. My family is still poor.

  • @EasyEs So this silliness of working your way up is nonsense. Even if it works it takes YEARS and YEARS. I don't know how that guy did it, but it sounds like a load of BS to me. No minimum wage or even double that is sustainable enough now to live well. The only reason were now living in a 2 bedroom, one bathroom home for the first time for 600$ a month is because we've been blessed by having great owners who knew my mother for years while we lived in a one room apartment. They trust her.

  • @YourOasis97 It doesn't take years. I only made 10K one year and 105k the next, I had to build up skills and work experience. Also your not supposed to have a guarantee of a good life on min wage. Also your purchasing power is being stolen from you by progressive economic policies interfering in the economy and monetary system.

    That guy is probably good with money where as you sound like you may not be.

  • @EasyEs excuse me but you don't know me well enough to make an assessment like that. we go to the dollar store and we are not in debt at all since we don't use credit cards. we don't use expensive items or brand name things. we don't even buy clothes cos we can't. my mother stretches every penny by making only $11 an hour. My mother has worked in the company for 10 years and never was promoted. education is the key thing here. and even investing $ in that is risky lately.

  • @EasyEs in just one year you went from 10k to 105k? I highly doubt that. Minimum wage is not meant to make you have a good life, I know but it should be enough to get buy well it isn't. And the work and the way they treat you is not worth it. Also it doesn't help if English is your second language or you lack a degree. It's not about economic policies but governmental policies and corruption running rampant as well corporate take overs, squeezing out small businesses and centralized banking.

  • @EasyEs also, if you haven't noticed the value of the dollar is decreasing by the minute, our tax dollars are used on never ending wars and bailing out banks, inflation is rampant. Food prices have gone up 35%, 1 in 7 Americans use food stamps. so don't blame the people. Blame those who control the money system. Even prices at some dollar stores is going up. So where else can we go to afford bare necessities? Might as well live in huts, eh? The standard of living has gone down drastically!

  • @YourOasis97 I never blamed the people, the people want free stuff or garenteed jobs and vote for politicians who promis it. To that extend I do blame the people. If you want a job that pays 50-100k a year. Get your stuff in your car and move to Western Canada. Last home of capitalism in North America is seems.

  • @EasyEs of course people want free stuff cos they can't afford it! that's my whole point. guaranteed jobs should be guaranteed but since they moved manufacturing jobs to China and we now have a service economy we're going to keep going downhill. Only a manufacturing economy can prosper. Canada has more taxes and it's more expensive! Politicians are liars. We need to change the system. The system is flawed. It doesn't work. It was made to put people in debt. It's not about having a job of 50k

  • @EasyEs or 100k. it's about those who can't make it to the top to be able to live comfortably anyway or at least get by, most can't even do that. The middle class is dwindling so even the middle class has had to make adjustments. In a "great" country like ours we have 4 million homeless, millions more in absolute poverty or living hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck. There are less and less opportunities every year. So who is to blame? The ones who created this system.

  • @YourOasis97 Well I wouldn't say there are less oppurtunities in the USA vs the EU or actualy just about any nation on Earth..currently...The sad truth is that the USA has a very poor top down education system and is becomming more like a Northern European welfare state every year. Who is to blame? I would say just about everyone in the USA.

  • @EasyEs I didn't say some countries are worse than others. Were all in the same boat economically speaking only difference is Europe and the U.K. have higher prices for everything. I seriously can't fathom how people can afford to live there. But less opportunities in the U.S. every year? Yes, just ask everyone who has lost manufacturing jobs since the 90s and transported them to China. We've become a service economy and those never last long. Only the producing ones do.

  • looks like he WON 2 wars in 5 months! and killed osama!!! whoa Barack....

    soon it will be 3 ( lord resistance army are the most evil child kidnappers on earth, after that i hope he pulls out of afganistan and SAVE DARFUR

  • @adamrocketblack I am sorry what wars has the man won?

  • @EasyEs My first reaction was: Dont be a dick! but I read your other posts ( concerning personal economics ) and find i agree and empathize with you... Two wars you mentioned presumably were (1) Libya...Ca-ching!

    (2) Uganda ( a perfect use of American power if ever there was one... How long do kids have to be kidnapped and brainwashed to kill their parents!! ) That leaves Afghanistan, a problem child we will need to withdraw from...and

  • and (3) Pakistan a country we will probably need to get more involved with first,;Due to their instability and nuclear proliferation...and (4) IRAQ a country who's withdrawl was officially announced days ago

    ---Got to wonder, Did u bitch as much when Bush got us involved in a 3rd conflict in Columbia?

    Thats two finished wars, and perhaps a third soon... Or did u mean Somalia? So far I far prefer Obama's use of Power over the alternative.

    Vote for Perry or Bachman if you feel differently

  • and Pakistan a country we will probably need to get more involved with first, Due to their instability and nuclear proliferation...

    and (4) IRAQ a country whos withdrawl was officially announced days ago

    ---Got to wonder, did u bitch as much when Bush got us involved in a 3rd conflict in Columbia?

    or did u mean Somalia?

    So far I far prefer Obama's use of Power over the Alternative,

    if you feel differently you are free to vote for Bachman or Perry...

  • @adamrocketblack It is a terrible situation, nations like my own, and the EU need to raise their military spending so the USA does not shoulder all the load. Some day the USA may just say fu*k it, then what. I didn't join the Canadian military becasue the NDP and to large extent the Liberals, see our military at the worst violent criminals (see story about Airborn) if they do their job and at best people who can be used as political props.

  • blah blah blah

  • this lady really did this, but this is a dramatic re-enactment, obviously. When she did this in the mid nineties, minimum wage hovered around six dollars an hour. It's gone up about a dollar since then, but it is still far short of being something someone can sustain themselves on. Having worked fast food and other minimum wage jobs in the past five years, I can tell you that i have seen this kind of thing first hand, and it is a very real problem.

  • Presidents come and go.

    It amazes me that we really think one person or a group of individuals, can solve all the problems in the world today

    Or if they really want to.

    If people want a better world to live in then they have to start looking towards each other for the answer and organized. We had century's upon century's of depending on Kings, Noblemen ,Czars. and President's ruling over us.

    Always serving their needs, instead of our own.we are the ones to suffer for such foolishness.

  • @coolrayfruge Exactly. An educated mass of people can do far more than any government.

  • Right now there are alot of idle hands not being productive in our society ,because of money and politics.

    Those who lost their jobs,because they fell victim to cut backs and hiring freezes.

    Those that have lost everything and are now living on the streets.Trying to make ends meet.

    They've become aburden on those that are fortunate to still have a job.who have to pick up the slack pay more taxes to support them. While the company's downsizes businesses.For more profit and to save themselves.

  • You don't have to agree with everything in this documentary to acknowledge that it is a very artistic, informative, thought-provoking film.

    I loved it, and I would disagree with the filmmakers on several points more than likely if we ever sat down and talked. But it's certainly a timely, and very creative documentary. I'd love to find more films like this.

  • Cry me a river Barbara. I got a job, learned a skill, kept a tight budget and am living the American Dream. God has blessed the fruits of my labor and God has blessed the USA. Lets all not forget where our blessings start.

  • This is how I got out of poverty. Instead of relying on others I;ve turned to the creator and ask HIM to be my source. I repented from breaking the Then commandments and start giving to the little that I had to people who had even less. No porverty here every again. The almighty has a system that works!!! Give to Live!! thats the way.

  • Thank you. A must see for my children. I live in the "socialist" Europe and the financial problems are amassing all around us. In my country laws are being implemented for cuts in the minimum wages etc.

    IMHO the key point of the film is around 4:17 - 4:35 and the punch line is "YOU DON'T SEE IT"

    Regards

  • Reminds me of fight club. . .without the fight club. . .

  • The bum on the rail ask for what little change you have in your pocket for a meal or a drink.. The bum on the plush wants you to work long hours so he can afford his million dollar home his expensive cars and Boats and be able to live his lavish lifesyle.

    Get rid of the bum on the plush and you won't see the bum on the rail.

  • This is why I don't support privatized businesses.

    It creates the master and servant system in our society.

    We don't need a ruling class making life hard on the rest of us.

    Just so we can be servant to their needs.

    and thats whats happened.

    This is why we need to learn to work together and produce for the good of all.

    Not just for the few or the one.

  • @coolrayfruge As opposed to some other system which is better? Cite examples! Dumb fucking faggot.

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  • @msredalbert1 Sorry !, I'm no Faggot so I guess you'll have to go FU@K yourself.!

    There Has never been a perfect society ,not even a capitalist society.

    Which is why we should continue to strive to make a better world to live.

    The Great Depression and the last three Recessions shows that Capitalism isn't Falable.

  • @coolrayfruge So you want to make society better by changing things which have been shown empirically to make people worse off?

  • @FitnessByMatt I would like to see people change society ,so its not about money but our survival.

    To make this a better world to live in. I think mankind is capable of coming up with something better.

    It takes manpower for a society to provide the things we need and depend on.

    When money comes priority before the peoples lives.And you see people out of work depending on government funding for support. Because company's can't afford to hire or are cutting back because of cost.

  • @coolrayfruge You see millions of people homeless living in cars or make shift shelters out in the woods..

    Going to food shelters for a good meal.This isn't the first time mankind has been through this in a capitalist society.Their has'nt been a society that hasn't had money to control the people,at least not since earlyman ,the Hunter gathers.Communism and Socialist society's use money to dictate peoples living standurds.They use money to deny us free access to anything we need.Freedom at a $

  • @coolrayfruge I told you to shut the fuck up you stupid fucking moron. Learn economics or shut your dumb fucking mouth.

  • @msredalbert1 Why would I take orders from a little Bitch like You!

  • This system is fixed where,the rich get richer and the poor struggle to say ahead.

    The economy is based on what the wealthy can afford,not the poor workers.

    You can't live well on a minimum wage salary in this economy.

    I think the poor working class should stop supporting these smug Private businesses, who depend on someone to work for them ,so they can be able to afford thelavish lifesyle they live. Make them earn it all on their own.

    Without help from others.

    See if they do as good.

    .

  • Interesting.. I see the flaw in her method. From what I see low wage workers that manage to get ahead... ie save up for property or eventually start a small business, have a strong family network for support. Coming from an immigrant background its usual to see newcomers work at low wage jobs until eventually saving up enough to start a business or their own. But that is only possible when you have the support and scale of living together and pitching in

  • Shit rolls downhill, money uphill!

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  • @coolrayfruge Sadly, my life motto! Writing as a wear a "Pyramid of Capitalism" T-shirt that I made!

  • @RadarKat73080 You do what you have to do to survive in this world.

    Right now we have to make money if we want to survive in this world.

    Its how the system controls us.

    I'm not against those who are trying survive and provide for their family a good life.

    I'm against those that are greedy use their wealth to destroy others, to rule and control peoples lives just to benifit their own needs.

    I feel there has to be a better way than this.

    "Freedom is to be free from restraint."

  • @coolrayfruge Spookily in synch! It really amazes me how many people share my ideals! A lot don't, and they have no quams about telling me!

  • @RadarKat73080 You mean ; "Shit rolls down Hill, Money rolls up to Capital Hill"

  • @coolrayfruge Well, that's the image I get from "trickle down" economics.

  • @RadarKat73080 The image I get from trickle Down economics is.

    The Weathly elite and Banker's ,Politiions all standing on a balcony pissing down on the middle class and poor.

    Laughing saying ;Thanks for your support!

  • @coolrayfruge The image I get is worse! Dreamed I was the President a few weeks ago. I was in my last months of my second term, people were talking about giving me a chance to run again! Maybe not me, but I wish someone more like me would run!

  • @coolrayfruge Yeah, that's the point of big government you dumb fucking prick. It ends up eventually getting used by the rich. DUH! Now keep voting democrat you fucking stupid idiot.

  • @msredalbert1 : People like you live in a charade of the reality that has been designed to have you think the way that you think. There is NO Rep or Dem, there is NO President of the US. There is only Corporations. Obama is a President of a Corp. Rep and Dem have exactly the same policies that are packaged to deceive. You think you are getting "Change" by voting one way or the other,but tell me when did you last SEE it, FEEL it. Indoctrination and conditioning are the instruments of Government.

  • @Veloce3 yes yes! and I like the way you paraphrase Mr Jensen's there is no America speech! and if I could paraphrase George Carlin the government is only there to give the illusion that we have a choice. our real choices are: paper or plastic, cash or credit, we have 45 flavors of bagels and have to pick from 2 presidential candidates. something is wrong here!

  • @Veloce3

    Well said!

  • @msredalbert1 You must have your asshole where your mouth should be.

    So much shit producing out of it.

    Tell me ,you use that fowl mouth alot in public !

    I bet your used to getting smacked around for it!.

  • Brilliantly produced. Thanks for this.

  • @wibarm.. Your comment isnt entirely accurate. there will always be a need for people to do jobs that require less skill than others, but just because a job rquires less skill doesnt make it any easier or worse than any other job.. the fact still remains that every job should pay enough for a family to get by on. The problem in america is GREED.. You can more than enough money to live comfortably for the rest of your life, but it still isnt enough!!

  • such bullshit

  • Was this a movie based on the book?