our constitution has provided equal rights to kashmiri people they can earn living , buy land, get education, travel anywhere india we other indian cant buy land in kashmir we feeding kashmir people from our tax revenue so many hindu pundits killed by the bastard terrorist they have every freedom in india if the want separation in the name religion we are not going accept this no matter if we have to wipe off the last kashmiri from earth .
The moment kashmir is separated from India, it will be occupied by Pakistan. All these seperatist ppl who are against India will be against pakistan then. This azadi referendum doesn't represent every kashmiri. A normal kashmiri doesn't want to live in curfew. It's these Geelani's stone pelters who are making things mess up.
I am curious about Kashmiri Independence, do people in Ladakh want independence along with Kashmir as an independent state? I am an Indian and I will vote against Indian occupation in Kashmir if it is what the people of Kashmir want. What I don't understand is why people profile Kashmir as Islamic. It is not. It is secular. A chunk of it has other religious affiliations.Independent Kashmir will result in UN occupation are Kashmiris open to that?
To all Kashmiri...look at the infrastructure you have and the infrastructure kashmiris have in PoK. Plus a free kashmiri(Jammu, Ladhak, and 1/4 of Kashmir 4 Kashmiri pandits will b a part of India) will not b able to defend itself from a pakistani invasion. So instead of living a democratic country u want to be ruled by a failed state. If you want ur lives to improve make pakistan know that u dnt want terrorism. bcoz if thr are no terrorist in kashmir thr will be less security forces in kashmir
Omar Abdullah should speak for himself n not for kashmiri people.People rising ..... is the testimony to the fact that he does not represent kashmiri people and Not any govt. or individual who advocates slavery for us ; Anyone who takes away our freedom n liberty; Is not from us... We r free n will be free!
Though itz his opinion n as as a kashmiri i respect anyones opinion.But itz just opinion not representative opinion.
kashmir free = more terror from jihadis n terrorists n porki ,masters r not willing to creat another ,free for all jihadi state n launch terror in america, so fools it will never happen , we indians will fight till last men but no azadi get used to india ,.
so muslims in kashmir want indipendent ? well there is no way they will exist without india pumping billions to look after the state mean while america r against another terror islamic state in south east asia added n abeted by terror country of pakistan so only option is to be with india chang ur mind state n stop more killing on bothside what will happen to hindus? u have dilema sort it out or invite anarchy
@zubair80ahmad what do u mean to say if he wants peace in this region you knw you guys are destroying ur own selves and ur future by doing this listen to the man in the video he is more intelligent thn u guys who demand freedom he knws more about kashmir thn u Kashmir is always free hv u guys evr thought y r u facing issues over thr its bcoz of ur mentality
Love the propaganda part about every country hating India. What are you smoking? Or has the constant buggering with Bin Laden given you syphillis?
Anyway, as my fellow Americans, Western nations, Indians, Afghans, Balochs, Pushtoons, and almost the whole world is looking forward to the collapse of "Pakistan" , creation of Baloch, Pashtoon, Mohajir and Paki states.
Then the 4 of them can fight each other, and stop buggering the rest of the world.
@kaushiklodh I do not know from where you are, but some of you fellows do not want to divide only Pakistan, but the whole Middle-East, based on ethnical & religious grounds ; see Bernard Lewis when he was preaching to the Bilderberg group.
It is easier to take control of little State with some millions of individuals, than one with 160 mill. souls ... for imperialist desires, division will be the fate of each great country of the Greater Middle-East.
The Sri Lankans hate the Indians for supporting th the LTTEterrorists. The Bangladeshis are fed up with the Rakhi Bahni which tried to rule Bangladesh under an Indian general. The Burmese would rather be isolated than deal with a Delhi bent upon making it a protectorate, The Maldives almost drowning dont want a lifeboat from Bharat.
The Chinese have huge boundary disputes with Delhi. In the early days of independence Delhi thought that it could grap Tibet and thus bifurcate China into small pieces, perpetuating the colonial division of China. Mao Zedung would have none of that and took over Tibet, Aksai Chin and told Delhi to lay off Tibet. Then of course there are the Pakistanis, a huge impediment to Bharati hegemonistic designs in West Asia
India has always seen Nepal as part of its strategic sphere of influence, but that has been challenged in the past year since the election of Maoist Prime Minister Prachanda, who before he resigned last week had edged closer to Beijing. India treads fine line in Nepals political crisis
Protik mentioned Baloch - a situation which Pakistan allowed o develop by allowing fuedal leaders to control their region.. Paistan needs to listen to Balochis and give hem real representation and this will resolve the issue, the issue in Kashmir is an Occupation, but INdia has alot more problems and by meddling in ALL their nieighbours affairs it is "blind" to what will happen to India in the long term.
@DevilishhhhGuy hahahaha..brainwashed paki idiot. "sri lankans hate india. bangladesh hates india. burmese hate india". were you effected by flood water borne diseases which has weakened your mind?:-)
This is wht happens when you try to give a hindu a sense of realisation..thye choke as they can not comprehend out of bollywood land...why there can be NO leniancy towards India and i shoulkd become an objective to destroy he stste of India for regional peace.
India seems to have lost the battle for influence in Nepal. Once the Big Brother that controlled every aspect of of Nepali life, Delhi has little influence on decision making in Kathmandu. When Delhi tries to force its will, the Nepalis dont listen. Nepali Maoists fouhgt a long and protracted war of independence from Indian interference. The people of Nepal won, and put the Pro-Chinese Maoists in power
India is incapable of hegemony, influence let alone Imperialism...
LOL if Inia is not involved in Waziristan or Baloch then Pakistan has never been invovled in kashmir...
india is a country that will never see sense a hindu seeking a grandeur of a hindu tradition that has never been... misguided on the regional perception of India..this myopia will blind India and lead to it's containment or even it's destruction
Delhi is surrounded by problems of its own making. It is hated in South Asia for good reason. The Indian Union has had wars with all her neighbors, and it constantly interferes in the affairs of all of them.
The illusion of her popularity in the indian ocean and abroad is quite bizaree.. the hindu equation is worth nothing abroad or in the region. A nation that feels it has a duty to influence her neighbours while unaware that India is every much if no more unstable.. hus creating external and internal threats... Like I said previously we live in a new dawn.. where no one will sop ASIAN states from working ogeher and all will work "against" India..
India is now trying to put in place a pro-Indian government and keep the Maoists out of power. This could be very dangerous, because it could lead of widespread Anti-Indian riots. Already the Indian companies working Nepal face an uphill battle. Various project have been put on hold and trade is in jeopardy.
Do you need frher proof of your armies INjustice on kashmiris - the same way your supposed profssional army supressed Sikhs in 1984 and your Millitia gangraped muslim women in Gujerat and recently in orissa.. also similar incidents have been taking place in Assam also....
How many kashmiri women do you seek to rape before you actually realise what is going on in kashmir..
Yes you don't want India to be divided but the reality is it will be and it is the fault of the "vision" of India your arcitects had including Gandhi a India where Hindu Majority will do Raj.. if this goes unchecked it becomes extremism.
It is not unchecked ... right now Shiv Sena and it's leaders have many cases against them; earlier, Ananda Margis (Purulia Arms Drop) tried to acquire arms and landed up in jail.
India is way better than your country with a medieval Arab Sharia Law and people with multiple burqa clad wives.
Sadly the Illusion was marketed in The West but it has fooled you guys is an "over realisation" of what India is.. Indian federation has huge problems.. and you OCCUPY and inflict genocide, rape on innocent Kashmiris...
How about we take over the whole of Pakistan? How about all Paki generals are tried and executed for genocide in Kashmir, East Pakistan, Balochistan and Afghanistan, including the murders of Najibullah and Ahmad Shah Masood?Won't it be better?
I would welcome India to start an offensive against Pakistan.
I truely do NOT just write this for the sake of male bravardo like you.. I welcome India to launch an offensive on pakistan unlike the operaions of teror it conducts in Waziristan...
Remember your missiles are "not" fully operational :)
India your about to be removed from Afghanistan - I envisage as early as mid next year 2010...
So when you crawl back I would love you to raise the drums of war against Pakistan... This time the war will be to RECLAIM and re conquer.. it's going to be very very different
Pakistan unlike GAY HIND is not a economic power so we will only do it the once.. when you launch first strike we will whole heartedly retaliate.. naa rahe gha Hindu ghar na rahe gha Pakistan.. what will remain is Jazbahe Jihad across the entire region of India!.. but before that your federation will disintegrate, ...but thats cool because we will only come for The Hindus.
Let me give you a reality between India and Pak. There will be more conflicts, possibly a larger conflict like a full out war. Pakistan will have 1 opportunity at this and will do everything necessary to destroy India. Central to this will be The Kashmir issue... You have to be foolish to think India will continue to exist and function Post Nuclear attack.
This very dream of seeing "Hindus in Chains" have brought you to this juncture, with 4 military losses, international humiliation and death to millions of Muslims (most of them killed by Muslims, BTW).
1999 - Was the only period Pakistan made a tactical assault.. but tommorrows war will end both nations.. you Hindus will "lose" the will to fight and well I have spelt out a fair assessment.. Your fderation will disintegrate..
Last time an indian and a British made an assessment on pakistan.. hey said it would last only 3 months.
Our existence and survival is testimony of our fighitng spirit.. we are children of mujahids and shaheed.. that Jazbah separates India and Pakistan in conflict.
So Protik... you need to realise we have "nothing" to loose in your eyes we are crack pot jihadist seeking martyrdom.. for us it is a sin to live as ghulams. But what does it men for India in "that" situation today... and today we live in exponential times.. the world is changing arund us.. new powers emerge as the anglo american hegemony diminishes.. it's a new era, new chapter... core is Kashmir and anoher issue is Afghanistan for "strategic" importance.
What happens in Waziristan oday Protik - is no Taliban an dyou know very well but it is Pakistan and India fighitng for Afghanistan. Boh seeking who will "influence" it.
India will birng it "money" but no stability
Pakistan will bring Afghanistan Stability and Chinese Influence...
Washington is making tough decisions for it's Economic Hegemonic agenda bu more importantly it's economic survival.. afghanistan holds the key..
Trust me (I know you won't); India has NEVER supported Taliban neither will it EVER. India only supported Najibullah, Ahmad Shah Masood and Hamid Karzai, all of whom are/were enemies of Taliban.
Protik the Tajiks inside Waziristan are NOT Afghan Taliban.. they were placed in here in 2002 by INdia and hese are;
Tajikistani
Tajik Afghans (N. Allaince)
Indians
This was a Neo con agenda but an agenda Obama pursued.... BUT it has failed. Afghan Taliban have ostracised this grouopclaiming to be Afghan resistance and i is this reason why Waziristan tribal leaders support Pak Army.
India is not part of any neo-con agenda; neither does it seek to destroy it's neighbours. India hasn't attacked any country since 1947; although we are very much capable of forging the Mauryan Empire from Gandhara (Kandahar) to Sri Lanka.
China supports Pakistan because if India is bogged down in Kashmir, China will be able to keep tabs on East Turkestan and Tibet. And Pakistan, as always, is driven by it's hatred for the Ancient Vedic Faith, that has stood the test of time!
Protik - re read that.. Do you really think we give s hit about the vedas - if we did Muslims would ahve rihgtfully anniilated Hindus along long time ago but instead are accused for it yet they did nothing. Now your not thinking geo srategic politics.. when ou do hen you see The Great Game.
They tried and left no stone unturned; but failed. A force that can annihilate the Vedas does not exist and neither will it ever. Try it. Give it your best shot.
Tolerance is strength. Intolerance is weakness. No wonder you have banned our serials and programs in your TV.
Don't mistake our patience as our weakness. It took us 13 days to defeat your army in East Pakistan, it will probably take at most 2 years to crush Pak Army in total if no third country interferes.
You so called Jehad, with the so called blessings of "God" has been a pathetic failure in the last 3 decades. But don't stop trying.
General Patton of US Army said: "As a soldier, it is not your duty to give your life for your country; but to make the other bastard give his for his country!"
But the one prepared to go all the way.. relentless is the victor - have you got it in you to go all the way.
Don't tell me, think it over what I wrote, mull it over and realise a world where Indians do not seek to have friendship with Pakistan and continue to occupy Kashmir and a world of proxy wars of Afghanistan. India can only do so much for so long - it has no real friends and is surrounded - you have so much more to lose.
Yes we have much more to lose, because we have achieved much more. What have you achieved? Nothing. So you want to destroy us? Can't you see you are getting destroyed by your own hatred?
Here is the thing.. you may or may not believe this.. 9/11 , War on terror, Invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was pre planned and aprt of the New American century project a Zionist Think tank.. read his book by Zbigniew Bresenzki and you will lern why Afghanistan is so important in controlling the EURASIAN triangle.. the current most strategic and resourceful region of the world.
What America is doing in Afghanistan is nothing new, i has been doing this for a very long time.. he only difference and big difference before it did it to "maintain" economic hegemony and today it does it for survival.
In geo poliics there is no love or hate now is there.
On a personal level America is a fabulous nation to live in.. fantastic esp. cities like NY an amazing hub of culural meldown on a geo political level.. offcourse not.. America like ALL empires of the past.. secures it's way of life by supressing another's opportunity - the same was for Ottoman empire but i loved them.. see it is which side of the fence you sit.
India and Pakistan is no different to Iran and Iraq in the 1980's both were played off against each other.. the difference today is there are more major players in the region... and whoever secures Afghanistan and let me give you a real assessment on who will .... it will be Pakistan will influence central asia and the EURASIAN trade...
I know of the "Great Game", but it because the US wants to control Central Asian Oil.
But what's up with Pakis' hatred for India? Why did they invade India several times? This has nothing to do with the great game. It is a manifestation of the hatred that you have bred and fed for decades.
Well it depends what side of he fence you sit on protik.. We Pakistani see Indian aggression towards Pakistan for he last 60 years and you do not and you see are tenacity to exist and survive as an offensive.
So Protik if you know central asia and EURASIA control the Great Game as it is called.. then you will now Pakistan and India's part in this game in Afghanistan..you must be a fool not to recognise it.. both will go to great lengths to control Pakistan.
China will rise to be a huge power bu i can only do so if it shares through allainces and he most strategic allainces it has is Pakistan to influence Central Asia.
Protik our no fool, his what is exploited o create hegemony, weaknesses, security issues, indifferences, i.e. kashmir... may no be as vial to India as it is to co exist with Pakistan and China and visa vi.. So baat kuch aur hothi hain, politics kahan aur kehtha jaata hain to say India is whie than white is wrong and Pakistan does the same to survive, India does it for hegemony, Pakistan to survive.
So Kashmir may not be vital to India and Pakistan as is to influence global economy and benefit from it - yet it is central to their indifference so "other" players will seek to exploit it and play their proxy games - It doe snot mean Pakistan will ever give up on Kashmir... jst means how tings happen on the ground level and are communicated to he public and hese games are played out on a higher level.
I know my Pakistan is involved to destabilise India but India has been doing this from day 1 of Pakistan's creation.
So at what point do you create a friendship.. at he point all avenues are exhausted o destabilise each oher.. which is what will happen once China /Pak for instance influence Central Asia. India will ahve to then make sacrifices even kashmir. So why no resolve these issues today and work as a partnership 2 morrow.
Why? because India was used as a proxy against China and iself has an Imperial Agenda... but the reality is, it can never be China so other powers are exploiting India's desire, short term gains but long term losses. Like he way Indian - RUSSIAN relaionships went on ice, as i sought to build bases in central asia.
By building base sin cenral asia on Bush Administartion say so..
I has moved into the area strategic o russia and closer to China. While short term it won sympathy from US, long term it looses out with the real players in the region. Another poor allaince is Israel another poor choice of friend by India... short erm gains technology - long term losses key support of allies/players in the region.
A friend in need is a friends in deed. That is what Israel is. We could not have a better choice. At least they are not like the Palestinians, who take aid from us yet support Pakistan in international fora.
Power corrupts with time and absolute power corrupt absolutely. That is the only thing that can happen to China. Least said about Pakistan.
There was a border clash in 1984 between China and India. China, unlike 1962, backed down. Do you know why? It never had support among the local Tibetans.
." Some of the soldiers dragged the new bride and her heavily-pregnant aunt into a nearby field. "We were crying bitterly. I told them that I had not yet seen my husband. But they didn't listen. They took off our clothes...and then we were raped. Four to six men raped me, I think." Suffering from shock and gunshot wounds, Mubina Gani was taken away and held in military custody for 48 hours."
Indian officials initially claimed that the bus had accidentally been caught in a cross-fire. However, the Superintendent of the Anantnag police later confirmed that the BSF had fired on the bus indiscriminately and that the two women had been gang-raped.
Lets discuss the bruality in which Hindu Millitia raped, burnt and choopped muslim women up infront of their brohters and fahers...
They did the same in Punjab 1984 and in Orissa with Christian.. systemaic of Hindu Way of opressing the men - vile, disgusting methods not the democratic India, India of justice you bullshit about
You should come to India. You can write some really dramatic bollywood stories.
Many from your country have come and settled in India. We have accepted them; unlike you, who do not let our artists perform in your country - FEAR OF CULTURAL CONQUEST?
Lahore under Siege; Indian army broadcasts from Lahore Radio; Pakistan withdraws from it's invasion.
1972 -
You got less punishment for what you did; thanks to your foster father President Nixon (you were always lackeys to the US)
1999 -
The so called brave Taliban and Pak Army sneaked in like rats and scampered away like scared rabbits when Indians arrived. Norther Light Infantry wiped out. You PM went begging to Clinton.
In Siachen, you tried to capture the peaks and lost 120 men in less than 24 hours. You (despite your "famous" cocks) never dared to venture into Siachen again!
Youmay wish to do some subjective reading on kargill since you come across as someone who likes to learn...
Kargill was NOT a retreat but a "withdrawal".. again not the idea of the millitary bt a cocksucking PM who needs to be hanged.. he was your greates asset... remember how many planes wer downed and how amny people on YOUR side died.. against a tactical guerilla war.. where the mujahadeen/pesonnel had no air cover, no gun cover, no tanks, no mobility but only foot.
I agree let us flush out Hindu Terrorists inside Baloch i.e. hey are errorists since what are Hindus doing in a muslim land.. let us remove them.. and ALL each and every BALOCHI a free and fair PLEBICITE...
Let is do the same for KASHMIR, PUNJAB and ASSAM..give the Maoists supporters the right to decide what they want too.
There are no Hindu terrorists in Balochistan. They are all Muslims, and supported by Oman, and the Baloch and Marri people do not want to be part of Pakistan. Don't know about the other tribes.
FACT: The Iranians hate you Pakis because you Pakis have systematically carried out a genocide against Shia Muslims. Before that, you killed the Bengalis (90% of whom were Muslims). Before than Sikhs and Hindus. Now you are killing the Baloch. This is the true face of your so called Islamic Republic.
Let Pakistan "listen" to Balochis.. give them a free and fair election a PLEBISCIE
BUT on 1 condition ...
We give Kashmiris a free and fair PLEBISCIE also, while we are at it to ASSAM and PUNJAB.. Let's also engage the maoist to and listen tot hem too give them what they want.
how about you return Arunchal pardesh to china too while you seeking to make such decisions to liberate land that have no liberation requests from the "majority".
The majority of Pujabis sought independence thus you massacred them in 1984 like the entire kashmiri population virtually wants Hindu's Ocupation at an end.
Absolutely, this is he solution not only Pakistan has pu forward, even he Mujahadeen agree to this and tis is what the Kashmiri want as well as The In. Community have put forward such a proposal.
1) Remove Indian Army from the region - which is an OCCUPYING Force, destabilising Kashmir.
2) CALL for a FREE and FAIR Plebiscite involving ALL of KASHMIR - there should be NO invovlement from Indian Government or Pakistani Government.
Allow the Kashmiri the power to decide for their future.
It is not possible to listen to Kashmiris who have been murdered and driven out of Kashmir, is it? Neither is India going to drive out the non-Kashmiris who currently live in Kashmir.
And more Kashmiris want to be part of India than be a part of Pakistan.
Why don't you come and see thousands of Kashmiris lining up when the Indian Army carries out recruitment drives in Kashmir?
What about the thousands escaping Indian violence who have come into Azaad Kashmir.
O.k allow he international community to come and see how kashmiris love India and line up to join the very Army that murders their sons and rapes their daughters.
Please I agree allow the International community to access kashmir!! let us speak to kashmiris.. you speak abou POK.. why not just have a FREE PLEBISCITE everywhere!.. including Baloch..
If Indian Army was a Hindu Army, then why did Shabir Ahmad Malik and Lieutenant Haneefudding give their lives fighting you Paki scoundrels?
If the terrorists (you call them freedom fighters) are so good, then why did Rukhsana Kausar and her brother Aijaz recently kill two terrorists in Kashmir? Who are the real rapists? You Pakis are known for that.
Keep listening to the lies your politicians say to you ... if you cannot accept the reality, it is your problem.
a Free and fair election across Kashmir.. without Indian Millitary / Police or government involvement or fear tactics and without Pakistani involvement.
Kashmir should no longer be an "occupation" and ALLOW all of KASHMIR to decide in a free and fair election monitored and mesured by outside UN aid workers or agencies.
The only solution is, complete annihilation of Pakistan, once and for all. Just like you use pesticides to kill insects.
Once we get back PoK, we will make sure Kashmiriyat is restored there. It is a known fact that the predominant language spoken in so called "Azaad Kashmir" is not Kashmiri but Punjabi!
THe solution is for PAKISTAN to RECLAIM India - don;t you think.
We azaad kashmiri will burn you hndus if you set foot into Azaad Kashmiri both in India and abroad we will neevr allow you to set foot in Azaad Kashmir.
Their are no non Kashmiris "living" in Kashmiris yes there is a freedom struggle where mujahadeen have taken up the "call" of he Kashmiris to free them from a venomous Hindu Army who rape, abduc, extra judical killings and prey on kashmiris with vile torture methods.
Kashmir is for Kashmir.. settle it with a PLEBISCITE - allow them to decide? sure this is the solution, Azaad Kashmir and valley.. must have a free and fair election where there should be No Indian or Pakistani interference
India.. "the beginning and end" of heir fantasy...
1) While they are a rising Economy they are by no way "capable" of making regional decisions or leading he world or containing China - as they have been deluded to tink by USA/ISRAEL
2) India is not a land of "peace" and "stability".. it has a Huge poverty divide, riisng AIDS epidemic, landlocked with countries that do not "favour" India's role in the region - All these nations ahve had past and present issues in INdia..India has meddled in their affairs and they have and will continue to do the same inside India.
3) The instability of India is a 2 fold external from it's neighbours who are rightfully fed up with it's meddling and internally thorugh the rise of Hindu Extremism causing instability from within.
4) The greatest lie is that Hindu's and I say this knowingly assume "superiority" int he region based on a "history" or shold I say "hindu" hisoric events hat neither can be verified but more importantly were never recorded "until" recently since the rise of Hindu Imperialistic bravardo and largely bullshit.
5) India is the "only" nation in the world that has a stable democracy, viable, functioning institutions, educated socieities YET there is state funded terror on "non hindus" and in each case the very nature of the "attacks", the bruality of the rape and violence, genocidal on "NON" HINDUS has always been the SAME PATTERN and SEVERITY with The Government of India, Army of India and a "hindu Police" involved.
6) Here is a nation created on the basis a "hindu agenda" will be enforced through democracy, given the share number of Hindus in India - a philosophy shared by Congress pre and post independent India but also Gandhee himself - speaks about "equaliy"
7) The reality of India is.. that it would use any means necessary to silence discent from i's disatisfied citizens.. who largely are "non hindus" being marginalised and side lined in this so called largest democracy in the world - a strategy of Hindu Congress and even Gandhee accepted this and for saw a "hindu dominan" India which he envisaged will be a force of Good inside India - sadly not the case for "non" hindus and instead has created a rise in Hindu Extremism of a very vile kind.
The Attrocities in Kashmir, failure to allow UN agencies to inervene, countless concerns made by Amnesty Inernational, Kashmiri visible show for "dislike" infact a passive word should be "hate" to have anything to do with India - speaks for itself. It is without a doub he largest "occupation" it is the PALESTINE of South Asia.. Kashmiri face genocide, displacement, land displacement, humiliation and suversion of Kashmiris by a "hindu dominated" army and Police.
Anyone who supports the above is always a "hindu".. pursuing a Hindu agenda for Kashmir and not interested in providing justice for Kashmiris.
India is far from he sweet inocent victim it potrays i is, it meddles and exports terror in "ALL" it's neighbours.. false flag operation hat never win it the sympathy it seeks in the world, genocide of SIKHS, MUSLIMS and CHRISTIAND and subhuman reatment of DALITS - this is no nation - ready o make decisions for the region or the world.
"The Attrocities in Kashmir" - are you talking about the ethnic cleansing carried out by Jehadis against Kashmiri Pandits, Sikhs and Buddhists?
The occupation is by the foreigners, viz. Kabulis, Pathans, Bukharis, Baghdadis, Persians, Uighurs. They aren't Kashmiris. If they can't live in peace, they should get out. The displaced Kashmiri minorities will have to be brought back to Kashmir.
If you are opposed to this agenda, then you are nothing but a devil's representative.
PAK - created as anation with absolutely nothing!.. Brtish and Hindu said it will last for 3 months..
1948 - ill equipped, rag tag army of Pakistani, unpaid civilian army thwart Indian advances and thanks to The Pashtun - Part of Kashmir was liberated.
1965 - Pakistan pushed back Indians who came "unannounced" into Pakistan.. pushed so back that we took Rajasthan..
1971 - Pakistan had to accept defeat beuse of he mind games and intelligence operation you played against US but it allowd he birth of ISI.. and Bangladesh in time will come and support us always.
1980's - 1990's India was completely encircled and contained by Pakistan.
Kargill - the unofficial war - India after 2 decades began flexing it's muscles after it went nuclear.. Pakistan gave India a "show" war.
1000 mujahaden and army personnel - no air cover, no tanks, no ballistics, no conventional war in the sense - dug deep deep into Kashmir "occupied" by India. Pakistan called back a withdrawal not because of pressure because this was a proxy war .. to show India that it must not tke steps of aggression against PAKISTAN.
Kashmir.. if not today, maybe not tommorrow - But the world is changing, new allainces, new axis of power.. The question of Kashmir will vigorously be raised in he future and the World will see exactly what "We" Kashmris desire.
The fairest thing will be a free, and fair PLEBISCITE across Kashmir that will be moniored by non Indian and non Pakistani monitors.. KASHMIR banega banega Pakistan ..is that not what they celebrated on Pakistan Independence day. :)
The world is changing..the focal point for economic prosperity sits in "asia" thus events that can "affect" the rade that will inevitably flow through Asia will need to be questioned - central to this is the question of KASHMIR..
like I said, Pak is an extension of afghanistan and Afghanistan is an extension of PAK.. US thik tanks call it AFPAK.. unaware the "A" in PAKISTAN stands for Afghania.. Pakistan influencing central asia and support from China will see The Kashmir issue raised time and time again it will become central when discussing major TRADE agreements.
India is a nation that has meddled in it's neighbours affairs and is increasingly disliked through out the Indian Ocean.
You have a "growing" Navy but no influence, while Pakistan has a fledgling navy yet it has cordial relations with ALL nations in the Indian Ocean and it has now introduced China to the Indian Ocean.
See India in Afghanistan "longterm" is a huge pain in the preverbial butt for naions in that region - while All Pakistan seeks is to exist and has "no" Imperial agenda that works against it's nieghbours.
My Advice to India is - control your relationship with Israel and curb Hindu Extremism inside India and begin warming to your neighbours and lay rest plans to creae a "Imperial India" in the Indian Ocean.. this is sound advice.
Where is Pakistan getting attacked by Afghan Taliban?
It is your media as well as US media that calls the Indian Tajik and northern allaince terrorists - Taliban. Pashtuns are the lions of KHORASAN and asia.. noble warriors unlike YOU Hindu's.. abck stabbing dravidian scum.
karan thapar pls 1st u split n talk ...
abhijit787868 3 months ago
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our constitution has provided equal rights to kashmiri people they can earn living , buy land, get education, travel anywhere india we other indian cant buy land in kashmir we feeding kashmir people from our tax revenue so many hindu pundits killed by the bastard terrorist they have every freedom in india if the want separation in the name religion we are not going accept this no matter if we have to wipe off the last kashmiri from earth .
alexsteelxx 4 months ago
karan thapar sucks....
rahulforworld 5 months ago
The moment kashmir is separated from India, it will be occupied by Pakistan. All these seperatist ppl who are against India will be against pakistan then. This azadi referendum doesn't represent every kashmiri. A normal kashmiri doesn't want to live in curfew. It's these Geelani's stone pelters who are making things mess up.
AchinAbhi 5 months ago
I am curious about Kashmiri Independence, do people in Ladakh want independence along with Kashmir as an independent state? I am an Indian and I will vote against Indian occupation in Kashmir if it is what the people of Kashmir want. What I don't understand is why people profile Kashmir as Islamic. It is not. It is secular. A chunk of it has other religious affiliations.Independent Kashmir will result in UN occupation are Kashmiris open to that?
fcgfgcfg 6 months ago
To all Kashmiri...look at the infrastructure you have and the infrastructure kashmiris have in PoK. Plus a free kashmiri(Jammu, Ladhak, and 1/4 of Kashmir 4 Kashmiri pandits will b a part of India) will not b able to defend itself from a pakistani invasion. So instead of living a democratic country u want to be ruled by a failed state. If you want ur lives to improve make pakistan know that u dnt want terrorism. bcoz if thr are no terrorist in kashmir thr will be less security forces in kashmir
harshkalra90 6 months ago
Omar Abdullah is nothing more than an India and Western puppet! He doesn't speak for Kashmir!
666AmericanFreedom 10 months ago
@666AmericanFreedom your name suggests otherwise so fuck off packie.
DeepakPawndU 5 months ago
Omar Abdullah should speak for himself n not for kashmiri people.People rising ..... is the testimony to the fact that he does not represent kashmiri people and Not any govt. or individual who advocates slavery for us ; Anyone who takes away our freedom n liberty; Is not from us... We r free n will be free!
Though itz his opinion n as as a kashmiri i respect anyones opinion.But itz just opinion not representative opinion.
cric45master 1 year ago 2
fuck azadi !!!!. LEAVE INDIA AND GO 2 PAKISTAN!!!!!!
athuljmatthew 1 year ago
omar abdullah must die and kashmir should be free
199awais 1 year ago
kashmir free = more terror from jihadis n terrorists n porki ,masters r not willing to creat another ,free for all jihadi state n launch terror in america, so fools it will never happen , we indians will fight till last men but no azadi get used to india ,.
pakidreamer 1 year ago
fuk u . free kashmir
199awais 1 year ago
Free Kashnir
Naiik1 1 year ago
why shouldnot free u from this world? will be better.
dilipcruz 1 year ago
@dilipcruz ?
Naiik1 1 year ago
He looks so much like Rajiv Gandhi lol.
Rohit84up 1 year ago
so muslims in kashmir want indipendent ? well there is no way they will exist without india pumping billions to look after the state mean while america r against another terror islamic state in south east asia added n abeted by terror country of pakistan so only option is to be with india chang ur mind state n stop more killing on bothside what will happen to hindus? u have dilema sort it out or invite anarchy
pakidreamer 1 year ago
His name is Om Singh. Om Singh deserves shoe therapy only.
drtahir76 1 year ago
ur r shoe polisher.
dilipcruz 1 year ago
independent kashmir is a only solution.india should give freedom to khamiries if he wants peace in this region.
zubair80ahmad 1 year ago
@zubair80ahmad what do u mean to say if he wants peace in this region you knw you guys are destroying ur own selves and ur future by doing this listen to the man in the video he is more intelligent thn u guys who demand freedom he knws more about kashmir thn u Kashmir is always free hv u guys evr thought y r u facing issues over thr its bcoz of ur mentality
speedpunkify 1 year ago
Every kashmiri wants independence from india!Itz their right! They were never a part of india n will never b!!!
cric45master 1 year ago
@cric45master
Get lost b!tch.
tupac175 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This guy is just a piece of shit
ajazru 1 year ago
@ DevilishhhhGuy
Love the propaganda part about every country hating India. What are you smoking? Or has the constant buggering with Bin Laden given you syphillis?
Anyway, as my fellow Americans, Western nations, Indians, Afghans, Balochs, Pushtoons, and almost the whole world is looking forward to the collapse of "Pakistan" , creation of Baloch, Pashtoon, Mohajir and Paki states.
Then the 4 of them can fight each other, and stop buggering the rest of the world.
kaushiklodh 2 years ago
@kaushiklodh I do not know from where you are, but some of you fellows do not want to divide only Pakistan, but the whole Middle-East, based on ethnical & religious grounds ; see Bernard Lewis when he was preaching to the Bilderberg group.
It is easier to take control of little State with some millions of individuals, than one with 160 mill. souls ... for imperialist desires, division will be the fate of each great country of the Greater Middle-East.
roxor1080 2 years ago
@kaushiklodh
not gona happen
jehanzaib001 1 year ago
A reality India must come to terms with;
The Sri Lankans hate the Indians for supporting th the LTTEterrorists. The Bangladeshis are fed up with the Rakhi Bahni which tried to rule Bangladesh under an Indian general. The Burmese would rather be isolated than deal with a Delhi bent upon making it a protectorate, The Maldives almost drowning dont want a lifeboat from Bharat.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
The Chinese have huge boundary disputes with Delhi. In the early days of independence Delhi thought that it could grap Tibet and thus bifurcate China into small pieces, perpetuating the colonial division of China. Mao Zedung would have none of that and took over Tibet, Aksai Chin and told Delhi to lay off Tibet. Then of course there are the Pakistanis, a huge impediment to Bharati hegemonistic designs in West Asia
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
India has always seen Nepal as part of its strategic sphere of influence, but that has been challenged in the past year since the election of Maoist Prime Minister Prachanda, who before he resigned last week had edged closer to Beijing. India treads fine line in Nepals political crisis
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Protik mentioned Baloch - a situation which Pakistan allowed o develop by allowing fuedal leaders to control their region.. Paistan needs to listen to Balochis and give hem real representation and this will resolve the issue, the issue in Kashmir is an Occupation, but INdia has alot more problems and by meddling in ALL their nieighbours affairs it is "blind" to what will happen to India in the long term.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy hahahaha..brainwashed paki idiot. "sri lankans hate india. bangladesh hates india. burmese hate india". were you effected by flood water borne diseases which has weakened your mind?:-)
AgainstEvil1970 1 year ago
The Indian you dream it is..
exists only in bolly wood...
This is wht happens when you try to give a hindu a sense of realisation..thye choke as they can not comprehend out of bollywood land...why there can be NO leniancy towards India and i shoulkd become an objective to destroy he stste of India for regional peace.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
India seems to have lost the battle for influence in Nepal. Once the Big Brother that controlled every aspect of of Nepali life, Delhi has little influence on decision making in Kathmandu. When Delhi tries to force its will, the Nepalis dont listen. Nepali Maoists fouhgt a long and protracted war of independence from Indian interference. The people of Nepal won, and put the Pro-Chinese Maoists in power
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
India is incapable of hegemony, influence let alone Imperialism...
LOL if Inia is not involved in Waziristan or Baloch then Pakistan has never been invovled in kashmir...
india is a country that will never see sense a hindu seeking a grandeur of a hindu tradition that has never been... misguided on the regional perception of India..this myopia will blind India and lead to it's containment or even it's destruction
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Delhi is surrounded by problems of its own making. It is hated in South Asia for good reason. The Indian Union has had wars with all her neighbors, and it constantly interferes in the affairs of all of them.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
The illusion of her popularity in the indian ocean and abroad is quite bizaree.. the hindu equation is worth nothing abroad or in the region. A nation that feels it has a duty to influence her neighbours while unaware that India is every much if no more unstable.. hus creating external and internal threats... Like I said previously we live in a new dawn.. where no one will sop ASIAN states from working ogeher and all will work "against" India..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
India is now trying to put in place a pro-Indian government and keep the Maoists out of power. This could be very dangerous, because it could lead of widespread Anti-Indian riots. Already the Indian companies working Nepal face an uphill battle. Various project have been put on hold and trade is in jeopardy.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Do you need frher proof of your armies INjustice on kashmiris - the same way your supposed profssional army supressed Sikhs in 1984 and your Millitia gangraped muslim women in Gujerat and recently in orissa.. also similar incidents have been taking place in Assam also....
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
How many kashmiri women do you seek to rape before you actually realise what is going on in kashmir..
Yes you don't want India to be divided but the reality is it will be and it is the fault of the "vision" of India your arcitects had including Gandhi a India where Hindu Majority will do Raj.. if this goes unchecked it becomes extremism.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
It is not unchecked ... right now Shiv Sena and it's leaders have many cases against them; earlier, Ananda Margis (Purulia Arms Drop) tried to acquire arms and landed up in jail.
India is way better than your country with a medieval Arab Sharia Law and people with multiple burqa clad wives.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
India is a "illusion"
An illussion that there is a democracy
An illusion there is fair play
An illusion there is equality
An illusion it is a "modern" country
Sadly the Illusion was marketed in The West but it has fooled you guys is an "over realisation" of what India is.. Indian federation has huge problems.. and you OCCUPY and inflict genocide, rape on innocent Kashmiris...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Let is go back to your question about Baloch?
Lets give them a platform to air out their indifference?
But equally let us give Kashmiris, Assamese, Maoists and Punjab an equal platform...
Surely you can not disagree with this...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
How about we take over the whole of Pakistan? How about all Paki generals are tried and executed for genocide in Kashmir, East Pakistan, Balochistan and Afghanistan, including the murders of Najibullah and Ahmad Shah Masood?Won't it be better?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
I would welcome India to start an offensive against Pakistan.
I truely do NOT just write this for the sake of male bravardo like you.. I welcome India to launch an offensive on pakistan unlike the operaions of teror it conducts in Waziristan...
Remember your missiles are "not" fully operational :)
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
India your about to be removed from Afghanistan - I envisage as early as mid next year 2010...
So when you crawl back I would love you to raise the drums of war against Pakistan... This time the war will be to RECLAIM and re conquer.. it's going to be very very different
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Our missiles are not operational.
Our nukes are not functional.
Our INSAS is a bad gun.
Our LCA is a bad plane.
Our Arjun is a failed project.
OMG, please come and attack us; and take Kashmir. We cannot do anything!
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Read up on the superiority of your misiles...
Pakistan unlike GAY HIND is not a economic power so we will only do it the once.. when you launch first strike we will whole heartedly retaliate.. naa rahe gha Hindu ghar na rahe gha Pakistan.. what will remain is Jazbahe Jihad across the entire region of India!.. but before that your federation will disintegrate, ...but thats cool because we will only come for The Hindus.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
So far your Jihad has been pathetically unsuccessful. Good luck in the future though.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
In an india "post" nuclear it will be very successful..
Your hijray will disntegrate, but the Ghazi 's that will born will not stop until he Hindu are in chains...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
And this is "a" realistic assessment post Nuclear India-Pak.
A new Jhad struggle that will see Jehadist flow into India from ALL direcions and they will not be JUST Pakistani's
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Protik..
Let me give you a reality between India and Pak. There will be more conflicts, possibly a larger conflict like a full out war. Pakistan will have 1 opportunity at this and will do everything necessary to destroy India. Central to this will be The Kashmir issue... You have to be foolish to think India will continue to exist and function Post Nuclear attack.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
This very dream of seeing "Hindus in Chains" have brought you to this juncture, with 4 military losses, international humiliation and death to millions of Muslims (most of them killed by Muslims, BTW).
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Wrong Pakistan has fought in self defence..
1948 - defending Kashmir
1965 - defending Lahore
1972 - defending East Pakistan
1999 - Was the only period Pakistan made a tactical assault.. but tommorrows war will end both nations.. you Hindus will "lose" the will to fight and well I have spelt out a fair assessment.. Your fderation will disintegrate..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
I guess what I want Indians to realise is to learn the consequence of he split second male bravardo you like to endure esp. on you tube..
Central to this is Kashmir... so do he right thing by kashmiris.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Last time an indian and a British made an assessment on pakistan.. hey said it would last only 3 months.
Our existence and survival is testimony of our fighitng spirit.. we are children of mujahids and shaheed.. that Jazbah separates India and Pakistan in conflict.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
So Protik... you need to realise we have "nothing" to loose in your eyes we are crack pot jihadist seeking martyrdom.. for us it is a sin to live as ghulams. But what does it men for India in "that" situation today... and today we live in exponential times.. the world is changing arund us.. new powers emerge as the anglo american hegemony diminishes.. it's a new era, new chapter... core is Kashmir and anoher issue is Afghanistan for "strategic" importance.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
I have told you several times and telling you again, please declare an all out war with us.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
What happens in Waziristan oday Protik - is no Taliban an dyou know very well but it is Pakistan and India fighitng for Afghanistan. Boh seeking who will "influence" it.
India will birng it "money" but no stability
Pakistan will bring Afghanistan Stability and Chinese Influence...
Washington is making tough decisions for it's Economic Hegemonic agenda bu more importantly it's economic survival.. afghanistan holds the key..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Trust me (I know you won't); India has NEVER supported Taliban neither will it EVER. India only supported Najibullah, Ahmad Shah Masood and Hamid Karzai, all of whom are/were enemies of Taliban.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Protik the Tajiks inside Waziristan are NOT Afghan Taliban.. they were placed in here in 2002 by INdia and hese are;
Tajikistani
Tajik Afghans (N. Allaince)
Indians
This was a Neo con agenda but an agenda Obama pursued.... BUT it has failed. Afghan Taliban have ostracised this grouopclaiming to be Afghan resistance and i is this reason why Waziristan tribal leaders support Pak Army.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
India is not part of any neo-con agenda; neither does it seek to destroy it's neighbours. India hasn't attacked any country since 1947; although we are very much capable of forging the Mauryan Empire from Gandhara (Kandahar) to Sri Lanka.
China supports Pakistan because if India is bogged down in Kashmir, China will be able to keep tabs on East Turkestan and Tibet. And Pakistan, as always, is driven by it's hatred for the Ancient Vedic Faith, that has stood the test of time!
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Protik - re read that.. Do you really think we give s hit about the vedas - if we did Muslims would ahve rihgtfully anniilated Hindus along long time ago but instead are accused for it yet they did nothing. Now your not thinking geo srategic politics.. when ou do hen you see The Great Game.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
They tried and left no stone unturned; but failed. A force that can annihilate the Vedas does not exist and neither will it ever. Try it. Give it your best shot.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Tolerance is strength. Intolerance is weakness. No wonder you have banned our serials and programs in your TV.
Don't mistake our patience as our weakness. It took us 13 days to defeat your army in East Pakistan, it will probably take at most 2 years to crush Pak Army in total if no third country interferes.
You so called Jehad, with the so called blessings of "God" has been a pathetic failure in the last 3 decades. But don't stop trying.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Read the Indian Army's motto in Kashmir: "For those who claim to be fighting in the name of God, it is our job to arrange their meeting with God."
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
General Patton of US Army said: "As a soldier, it is not your duty to give your life for your country; but to make the other bastard give his for his country!"
protikmaitra 2 years ago
But the one prepared to go all the way.. relentless is the victor - have you got it in you to go all the way.
Don't tell me, think it over what I wrote, mull it over and realise a world where Indians do not seek to have friendship with Pakistan and continue to occupy Kashmir and a world of proxy wars of Afghanistan. India can only do so much for so long - it has no real friends and is surrounded - you have so much more to lose.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Why don't you think that today Pakistan is hated by India, Afghanistan and Iran? Just look into your soul and ask, WHY?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Yes we have much more to lose, because we have achieved much more. What have you achieved? Nothing. So you want to destroy us? Can't you see you are getting destroyed by your own hatred?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Exactly you have more to lose..
India is forcing Pakistan to make allainces with others in the region to destroy India... read a book and realise what is going on.
"the great chess board" by a Zonist "evil" man Zbigniew Brezenski..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Protik..
Here is the thing.. you may or may not believe this.. 9/11 , War on terror, Invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was pre planned and aprt of the New American century project a Zionist Think tank.. read his book by Zbigniew Bresenzki and you will lern why Afghanistan is so important in controlling the EURASIAN triangle.. the current most strategic and resourceful region of the world.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
What America is doing in Afghanistan is nothing new, i has been doing this for a very long time.. he only difference and big difference before it did it to "maintain" economic hegemony and today it does it for survival.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
So tell me, do you hate or love America?
They were your dear friends just a few years ago. What happened now?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
In geo poliics there is no love or hate now is there.
On a personal level America is a fabulous nation to live in.. fantastic esp. cities like NY an amazing hub of culural meldown on a geo political level.. offcourse not.. America like ALL empires of the past.. secures it's way of life by supressing another's opportunity - the same was for Ottoman empire but i loved them.. see it is which side of the fence you sit.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
India and Pakistan is no different to Iran and Iraq in the 1980's both were played off against each other.. the difference today is there are more major players in the region... and whoever secures Afghanistan and let me give you a real assessment on who will .... it will be Pakistan will influence central asia and the EURASIAN trade...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
I know of the "Great Game", but it because the US wants to control Central Asian Oil.
But what's up with Pakis' hatred for India? Why did they invade India several times? This has nothing to do with the great game. It is a manifestation of the hatred that you have bred and fed for decades.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Well it depends what side of he fence you sit on protik.. We Pakistani see Indian aggression towards Pakistan for he last 60 years and you do not and you see are tenacity to exist and survive as an offensive.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
So Protik if you know central asia and EURASIA control the Great Game as it is called.. then you will now Pakistan and India's part in this game in Afghanistan..you must be a fool not to recognise it.. both will go to great lengths to control Pakistan.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Sorry to control Afghanistan....
India feels i has a destiny you can deny it but it is true.
Pakistan also feels it has a destiny but they are both us competing for the same riches born from the same mother. China will excel..no question..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
China will rise to be a huge power bu i can only do so if it shares through allainces and he most strategic allainces it has is Pakistan to influence Central Asia.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Protik our no fool, his what is exploited o create hegemony, weaknesses, security issues, indifferences, i.e. kashmir... may no be as vial to India as it is to co exist with Pakistan and China and visa vi.. So baat kuch aur hothi hain, politics kahan aur kehtha jaata hain to say India is whie than white is wrong and Pakistan does the same to survive, India does it for hegemony, Pakistan to survive.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
So Kashmir may not be vital to India and Pakistan as is to influence global economy and benefit from it - yet it is central to their indifference so "other" players will seek to exploit it and play their proxy games - It doe snot mean Pakistan will ever give up on Kashmir... jst means how tings happen on the ground level and are communicated to he public and hese games are played out on a higher level.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
I know my Pakistan is involved to destabilise India but India has been doing this from day 1 of Pakistan's creation.
So at what point do you create a friendship.. at he point all avenues are exhausted o destabilise each oher.. which is what will happen once China /Pak for instance influence Central Asia. India will ahve to then make sacrifices even kashmir. So why no resolve these issues today and work as a partnership 2 morrow.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
China - Pakistan is an allaince against India.
Why? because India was used as a proxy against China and iself has an Imperial Agenda... but the reality is, it can never be China so other powers are exploiting India's desire, short term gains but long term losses. Like he way Indian - RUSSIAN relaionships went on ice, as i sought to build bases in central asia.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
By building base sin cenral asia on Bush Administartion say so..
I has moved into the area strategic o russia and closer to China. While short term it won sympathy from US, long term it looses out with the real players in the region. Another poor allaince is Israel another poor choice of friend by India... short erm gains technology - long term losses key support of allies/players in the region.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
A friend in need is a friends in deed. That is what Israel is. We could not have a better choice. At least they are not like the Palestinians, who take aid from us yet support Pakistan in international fora.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Power corrupts with time and absolute power corrupt absolutely. That is the only thing that can happen to China. Least said about Pakistan.
There was a border clash in 1984 between China and India. China, unlike 1962, backed down. Do you know why? It never had support among the local Tibetans.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
India hasn't done anything. The Baloch Freedom Fighters were created by the Soviets and the Omanis.
And Kashmir has been part of India for 5000 years as it is now. So will it remain forever. Let all the world try and take it away from us.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
." Some of the soldiers dragged the new bride and her heavily-pregnant aunt into a nearby field. "We were crying bitterly. I told them that I had not yet seen my husband. But they didn't listen. They took off our clothes...and then we were raped. Four to six men raped me, I think." Suffering from shock and gunshot wounds, Mubina Gani was taken away and held in military custody for 48 hours."
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Indian officials initially claimed that the bus had accidentally been caught in a cross-fire. However, the Superintendent of the Anantnag police later confirmed that the BSF had fired on the bus indiscriminately and that the two women had been gang-raped.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Animals in a army and police uniform systemaic of Hindu Agenda in India.. this will be the end of India eventually...
Same brutality occured with SIKHS in 1984, Muslims in Gujerat Christians in Gujerat...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
By the way I can cite more amnesty International events of what the "brave Indian army" does with MY kashmiri sisters........
So i agree let us allow Balochis to decide..
And let us allow Kashmir to decide freely.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Muslims in Gujarat - That is a Lie.
Truth - Hindus and Muslims, both died.
It all started with muslims burning down a train full of hindu pilgrims.
But I do not support death to any innocent person, regardless of his faith.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Lets discuss the bruality in which Hindu Millitia raped, burnt and choopped muslim women up infront of their brohters and fahers...
They did the same in Punjab 1984 and in Orissa with Christian.. systemaic of Hindu Way of opressing the men - vile, disgusting methods not the democratic India, India of justice you bullshit about
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
You should come to India. You can write some really dramatic bollywood stories.
Many from your country have come and settled in India. We have accepted them; unlike you, who do not let our artists perform in your country - FEAR OF CULTURAL CONQUEST?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Stick with Kashmir don't jump around like a hind running from a beating...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
As far as I know, you people are the ones who always jump around, get a beating and then sober down, only to jump around again!
1948, 1965, 1972, 1999 ... more to follow!
protikmaitra 2 years ago
1948 - Pakistan had a civillian unpaid army yet we thwarted your advances and my people were liberated.
1965 - It is your propaganda tellign a different story? Indian troops got pushed right out of Lahore..
1972 - You used vile methods that we now use gainst you to divide us from our brothers
1999 - Pakistan showed India hey could enter and reclaim kashmir any time they want thus it is better to settle through dialogue
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
1948 -
Kashmiris outnumbered by Pathans and Punjabis.
1965 -
Lahore under Siege; Indian army broadcasts from Lahore Radio; Pakistan withdraws from it's invasion.
1972 -
You got less punishment for what you did; thanks to your foster father President Nixon (you were always lackeys to the US)
1999 -
The so called brave Taliban and Pak Army sneaked in like rats and scampered away like scared rabbits when Indians arrived. Norther Light Infantry wiped out. You PM went begging to Clinton.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
1948.. we were liberated from a Hindu occupation and we will always return that favour.
1965 - Indian retreat abck and Rajasthan was taken over and after he cease fire we gave it back to you.
In both the above cases unlike india were a FLEDGLING army, ill equipped, ill prepared.
1972 - Pakistan should have fought on but because of what you did to our brethren.. rose them up against us a tough decision was made..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
1999 - a guerilla war was fough and in NO time Indian professionala rmy was overun and Pakistani 1000 mujahdeens and pesonnel were dug in...
Luckily for you we have had cocks for PM like Nawaz Shareef otherwise Siachen and Kargill would be flying the green and white flag today...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Whether you had cocks or not, you lost. Period.
In Siachen, you tried to capture the peaks and lost 120 men in less than 24 hours. You (despite your "famous" cocks) never dared to venture into Siachen again!
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Youmay wish to do some subjective reading on kargill since you come across as someone who likes to learn...
Kargill was NOT a retreat but a "withdrawal".. again not the idea of the millitary bt a cocksucking PM who needs to be hanged.. he was your greates asset... remember how many planes wer downed and how amny people on YOUR side died.. against a tactical guerilla war.. where the mujahadeen/pesonnel had no air cover, no gun cover, no tanks, no mobility but only foot.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
And who elected this "cocksucking PM"? I think it was the people of Pakistan, isn't it?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Do you think you will be successful in creating a Palestine style apartheid in KASHMIR? - oh so so wrong
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Do you think you can create a PALESTINE in KASHMIR is that why ISRAEL is operating in KASHMIR alongside your butchering Army;
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
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KASHMIR bleeds every day at the hands of A HINDU Occupation;
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
There can be no PEACE without resolving KASHMIR;
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Genocide of Kashmir is nothing compared to what your rapist army did in East Pakistan.
Killed: 3 million (90% of them were Muslims)
Raped: 9000 women
Surrendered: 90,000+ Pakis to the Indian Army and Mukti Bahini.
Pakistan = Cowardistan
Your coward army kidnapped Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and wanted to kill him, but India saved his life. I wish India saved Akbar Bugti as well.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
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The Horrors of Kashmir;
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
The GENOCIDE of KASHMIR
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Hindu give me the stats for Balochistan?
here are the stats for kashmir;
Total Killings * 89,742
Custodial Killings 6,771
Civilians Arrested 110,100
Structures Arsoned / Destroyed 104,866
Women Widowed 22,240
Children Orphaned 106,353
Women gang-raped / Molested 9,579
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
False and fabricated stats. Stick it on the wall of your living room.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
So Hindu..
I agree let us flush out Hindu Terrorists inside Baloch i.e. hey are errorists since what are Hindus doing in a muslim land.. let us remove them.. and ALL each and every BALOCHI a free and fair PLEBICITE...
Let is do the same for KASHMIR, PUNJAB and ASSAM..give the Maoists supporters the right to decide what they want too.
I am all for it.. are you?
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
There are no Hindu terrorists in Balochistan. They are all Muslims, and supported by Oman, and the Baloch and Marri people do not want to be part of Pakistan. Don't know about the other tribes.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Yes India is directly involved in exporting errorists into Baloch from within Iran.
Now I agree let s allow Balochis to decide?
But let us agree to give Kashmir the same right and Pujabis and Assamese and we should listen to the Maoists too..
Let us do that.. it is only fair...
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
FACT: The Iranians hate you Pakis because you Pakis have systematically carried out a genocide against Shia Muslims. Before that, you killed the Bengalis (90% of whom were Muslims). Before than Sikhs and Hindus. Now you are killing the Baloch. This is the true face of your so called Islamic Republic.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
So Hindu.. you spoke about Baloch?
O.k let's agree on this...
Let Pakistan "listen" to Balochis.. give them a free and fair election a PLEBISCIE
BUT on 1 condition ...
We give Kashmiris a free and fair PLEBISCIE also, while we are at it to ASSAM and PUNJAB.. Let's also engage the maoist to and listen tot hem too give them what they want.
What do you say?
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
how about you return Arunchal pardesh to china too while you seeking to make such decisions to liberate land that have no liberation requests from the "majority".
The majority of Pujabis sought independence thus you massacred them in 1984 like the entire kashmiri population virtually wants Hindu's Ocupation at an end.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
The question is when Tibet and East Turkestan will be independent of Han Chinese occupation; and not Arunachal Pradesh.
But who's to stop you from hoping?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Absolutely, this is he solution not only Pakistan has pu forward, even he Mujahadeen agree to this and tis is what the Kashmiri want as well as The In. Community have put forward such a proposal.
1) Remove Indian Army from the region - which is an OCCUPYING Force, destabilising Kashmir.
2) CALL for a FREE and FAIR Plebiscite involving ALL of KASHMIR - there should be NO invovlement from Indian Government or Pakistani Government.
Allow the Kashmiri the power to decide for their future.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
@ALANSARALHAQ
Allow the Kashmiri the power to decide for their future.
How about you replace that word "Kashmiri" with "Baloch" or "Sindhi"?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
You referred to one tribe out of 3 major tribes of BAloch?
Now provide me deails of what he oher tribes say.. by the way Akbar is dead.
Further ont he very basis let us give Assam liberation, Let the maosist gain their indpendence as well as Kashmir.
Kashmir is an OCCUPATION - baloch like Assam is an internal matter unlike Assam or the Maoist threat it is well contained.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
I already told you, come and get Kashmir and whatever part of India you want. If you can, it's yours.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Are you watching a bolly wood movie?
Kashmir will be liberated by "kashmiris"..
They are crying out to be divided from India? so why not listen to them....
LISTEN to Kashmiris all you have to do..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
Listen to whom?
It is not possible to listen to Kashmiris who have been murdered and driven out of Kashmir, is it? Neither is India going to drive out the non-Kashmiris who currently live in Kashmir.
And more Kashmiris want to be part of India than be a part of Pakistan.
Why don't you come and see thousands of Kashmiris lining up when the Indian Army carries out recruitment drives in Kashmir?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
What about the thousands escaping Indian violence who have come into Azaad Kashmir.
O.k allow he international community to come and see how kashmiris love India and line up to join the very Army that murders their sons and rapes their daughters.
Please I agree allow the International community to access kashmir!! let us speak to kashmiris.. you speak abou POK.. why not just have a FREE PLEBISCITE everywhere!.. including Baloch..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
So tell me, how much does ISI pay you guys to carry out this false propaganda over the Internet Blogs and YouTube?
protikmaitra 2 years ago
LOL! I wish I worked for ISI..
Why is that what you do work for RAW..the biggest bhenchods of Asia..
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
Keep abusing. As I said, you people are animals, not humans.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
If Indian Army was a Hindu Army, then why did Shabir Ahmad Malik and Lieutenant Haneefudding give their lives fighting you Paki scoundrels?
If the terrorists (you call them freedom fighters) are so good, then why did Rukhsana Kausar and her brother Aijaz recently kill two terrorists in Kashmir? Who are the real rapists? You Pakis are known for that.
Keep listening to the lies your politicians say to you ... if you cannot accept the reality, it is your problem.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Now name me ALL those people who have "gone" missing by the Indian Army?
Now name all he kashmiri girls who have been raped by Indian Police and Millitary.
You hindus are the greatest lying back stabbing cancer in Souh Asia and you only listen to the gun
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago
The only SOLUTION is;
to LISTEN to the Kashmiris;
a Free and fair election across Kashmir.. without Indian Millitary / Police or government involvement or fear tactics and without Pakistani involvement.
Kashmir should no longer be an "occupation" and ALLOW all of KASHMIR to decide in a free and fair election monitored and mesured by outside UN aid workers or agencies.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 2
The only solution is, complete annihilation of Pakistan, once and for all. Just like you use pesticides to kill insects.
Once we get back PoK, we will make sure Kashmiriyat is restored there. It is a known fact that the predominant language spoken in so called "Azaad Kashmir" is not Kashmiri but Punjabi!
protikmaitra 2 years ago
THe solution is for PAKISTAN to RECLAIM India - don;t you think.
We azaad kashmiri will burn you hndus if you set foot into Azaad Kashmiri both in India and abroad we will neevr allow you to set foot in Azaad Kashmir.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
You are micreant Hindu who cares nothing for the injustice of Kashmiri living in apartheid and fear in Kashmir.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago
Justice CANNOT be one sided.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
From what I see, right now you are burning in hell!
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Kashmir is 90% muslim?
Their are no non Kashmiris "living" in Kashmiris yes there is a freedom struggle where mujahadeen have taken up the "call" of he Kashmiris to free them from a venomous Hindu Army who rape, abduc, extra judical killings and prey on kashmiris with vile torture methods.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 2
Kashmir is for Kashmir.. settle it with a PLEBISCITE - allow them to decide? sure this is the solution, Azaad Kashmir and valley.. must have a free and fair election where there should be No Indian or Pakistani interference
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 2
India.. "the beginning and end" of heir fantasy...
1) While they are a rising Economy they are by no way "capable" of making regional decisions or leading he world or containing China - as they have been deluded to tink by USA/ISRAEL
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
2) India is not a land of "peace" and "stability".. it has a Huge poverty divide, riisng AIDS epidemic, landlocked with countries that do not "favour" India's role in the region - All these nations ahve had past and present issues in INdia..India has meddled in their affairs and they have and will continue to do the same inside India.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
3) The instability of India is a 2 fold external from it's neighbours who are rightfully fed up with it's meddling and internally thorugh the rise of Hindu Extremism causing instability from within.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
4) The greatest lie is that Hindu's and I say this knowingly assume "superiority" int he region based on a "history" or shold I say "hindu" hisoric events hat neither can be verified but more importantly were never recorded "until" recently since the rise of Hindu Imperialistic bravardo and largely bullshit.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
5) India is the "only" nation in the world that has a stable democracy, viable, functioning institutions, educated socieities YET there is state funded terror on "non hindus" and in each case the very nature of the "attacks", the bruality of the rape and violence, genocidal on "NON" HINDUS has always been the SAME PATTERN and SEVERITY with The Government of India, Army of India and a "hindu Police" involved.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
6) Here is a nation created on the basis a "hindu agenda" will be enforced through democracy, given the share number of Hindus in India - a philosophy shared by Congress pre and post independent India but also Gandhee himself - speaks about "equaliy"
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
7) The reality of India is.. that it would use any means necessary to silence discent from i's disatisfied citizens.. who largely are "non hindus" being marginalised and side lined in this so called largest democracy in the world - a strategy of Hindu Congress and even Gandhee accepted this and for saw a "hindu dominan" India which he envisaged will be a force of Good inside India - sadly not the case for "non" hindus and instead has created a rise in Hindu Extremism of a very vile kind.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
The Attrocities in Kashmir, failure to allow UN agencies to inervene, countless concerns made by Amnesty Inernational, Kashmiri visible show for "dislike" infact a passive word should be "hate" to have anything to do with India - speaks for itself. It is without a doub he largest "occupation" it is the PALESTINE of South Asia.. Kashmiri face genocide, displacement, land displacement, humiliation and suversion of Kashmiris by a "hindu dominated" army and Police.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 4
Anyone who supports the above is always a "hindu".. pursuing a Hindu agenda for Kashmir and not interested in providing justice for Kashmiris.
India is far from he sweet inocent victim it potrays i is, it meddles and exports terror in "ALL" it's neighbours.. false flag operation hat never win it the sympathy it seeks in the world, genocide of SIKHS, MUSLIMS and CHRISTIAND and subhuman reatment of DALITS - this is no nation - ready o make decisions for the region or the world.
DevilishhhhGuy 2 years ago 5
@DevilishhhhGuy
"The Attrocities in Kashmir" - are you talking about the ethnic cleansing carried out by Jehadis against Kashmiri Pandits, Sikhs and Buddhists?
The occupation is by the foreigners, viz. Kabulis, Pathans, Bukharis, Baghdadis, Persians, Uighurs. They aren't Kashmiris. If they can't live in peace, they should get out. The displaced Kashmiri minorities will have to be brought back to Kashmir.
If you are opposed to this agenda, then you are nothing but a devil's representative.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
@DevilishhhhGuy
I'm sure 1000 years hence your descendants will say, "90,000 Indian soldiers surrendered to Pakistan in 1972!"
As I already said, lying is in your blood.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
PAK - created as anation with absolutely nothing!.. Brtish and Hindu said it will last for 3 months..
1948 - ill equipped, rag tag army of Pakistani, unpaid civilian army thwart Indian advances and thanks to The Pashtun - Part of Kashmir was liberated.
1965 - Pakistan pushed back Indians who came "unannounced" into Pakistan.. pushed so back that we took Rajasthan..
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
1971 - Pakistan had to accept defeat beuse of he mind games and intelligence operation you played against US but it allowd he birth of ISI.. and Bangladesh in time will come and support us always.
1980's - 1990's India was completely encircled and contained by Pakistan.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
Kargill - the unofficial war - India after 2 decades began flexing it's muscles after it went nuclear.. Pakistan gave India a "show" war.
1000 mujahaden and army personnel - no air cover, no tanks, no ballistics, no conventional war in the sense - dug deep deep into Kashmir "occupied" by India. Pakistan called back a withdrawal not because of pressure because this was a proxy war .. to show India that it must not tke steps of aggression against PAKISTAN.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
Kashmir.. if not today, maybe not tommorrow - But the world is changing, new allainces, new axis of power.. The question of Kashmir will vigorously be raised in he future and the World will see exactly what "We" Kashmris desire.
The fairest thing will be a free, and fair PLEBISCITE across Kashmir that will be moniored by non Indian and non Pakistani monitors.. KASHMIR banega banega Pakistan ..is that not what they celebrated on Pakistan Independence day. :)
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
My Hindu vermin..PROTIK..
The world is changing..the focal point for economic prosperity sits in "asia" thus events that can "affect" the rade that will inevitably flow through Asia will need to be questioned - central to this is the question of KASHMIR..
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
like I said, Pak is an extension of afghanistan and Afghanistan is an extension of PAK.. US thik tanks call it AFPAK.. unaware the "A" in PAKISTAN stands for Afghania.. Pakistan influencing central asia and support from China will see The Kashmir issue raised time and time again it will become central when discussing major TRADE agreements.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
India is a nation that has meddled in it's neighbours affairs and is increasingly disliked through out the Indian Ocean.
You have a "growing" Navy but no influence, while Pakistan has a fledgling navy yet it has cordial relations with ALL nations in the Indian Ocean and it has now introduced China to the Indian Ocean.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
See India in Afghanistan "longterm" is a huge pain in the preverbial butt for naions in that region - while All Pakistan seeks is to exist and has "no" Imperial agenda that works against it's nieghbours.
My Advice to India is - control your relationship with Israel and curb Hindu Extremism inside India and begin warming to your neighbours and lay rest plans to creae a "Imperial India" in the Indian Ocean.. this is sound advice.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2
Pakistan has no imperial agenda?
Every time you people invaded India, you claimed you'll have the Paki flag over Red Fort and every time you people got badly thrashed.
You wanted to control Afghanistan using Taliban and now getting attacked by them.
protikmaitra 2 years ago
Where is Pakistan getting attacked by Afghan Taliban?
It is your media as well as US media that calls the Indian Tajik and northern allaince terrorists - Taliban. Pashtuns are the lions of KHORASAN and asia.. noble warriors unlike YOU Hindu's.. abck stabbing dravidian scum.
ALANSARALHAQ 2 years ago 2