race from a 45 mph roll and the roots style supercharged car will lose to a spooled up turbo. from a light i belive the mustang wins. in the 1/4 mile neither car will hit 125 mph, so a race like this doesnt prove much but i love those RX7s. my wife has a nice RX8 but i like that model RX7 , i think it is the best looking car they made.
i can't wait for my piston eaters rebirth,i love smoking super charged v8s but now with a 20b bridgeport C block and a gt5533r and twin 60mm gates its MUNCH MUNCH PISTON FOR LUNCH
a T88 is laggy and old turbo tech, and at 15psi, its way out of its efficiency range. if the T88 was pushing more like 25+psi, then the Cobra wouldve been left behind as if it was standing still.
A 35R with a .84a/r turbine pushing the same 15psi would do better as its more responsive on the low-end and still carries airflow up top.
Greddys T78 and T88's are based on old diesel turbo designs, mainly because a cost effective LARGE framed turbo for imports were not yet being produced.
Thus this is why most people who know the truth behind Greddys two largest turbo's, hate it.... stupid expensive from Greddy, laggy, not efficient for street applications, and a turbo of the same specs and size can be had for dirt cheap.
I bought a used journal bearing T88 almost 8 years ago for my MKIV Supra for $250 with blown seals. rebuilt it with new wheels, shaft and seals and balanced all for $500. the turbo in total cost me $800 including shipping costs. and the most power my supra could get on race gas was 762rwhp@32psi.
The same supra now has a GT45 pushing 35psi making 1122rwhp on E85, on a brand new OEM block with just head studs, gasket, 264 cams, and billet main caps with arp hardware.
I have actually raced the 'Termi' in the video with my 01 Cobra. I know from experience that the Mustang in this video is f*ckin' fast, so respect to the RX7 owner.
the powerband he has is probably so lopsided in the high end that he probably doesn't need much down low. no idea why he wouldn't just stick with the stock primaries over the fc sized primaries.
The FD3S stock primaries are 550cc. They were originally upgraded to 800cc, but when the car was being tuned there was an electrical issue with the injectors, so 650cc replaced them for the sake of the tune.
FD33, FD3S is japan, made the change starting wit the SA22 to FB.
moving on, i shoulda known the primaries were larger than the fc stock, since the fd pushes more boost in the lower rpms due to the sequential turbo's. just me having a brainfart.
WTF!!!! roll races prove nothing you might as well go to a dyno fag and become a dyno queen. I dont like mustangs but the 03 cobra comon i give credit when credit is due at thats a terminator race him off the line unless you dont know how to race lol. the rx-7 most def had way more hp but with his big ass turbo and prob 10 + pounds of boost would win any roll race even if he was drunk on zanex and smoking a joint lol...... just remember racing for a roll is not racing its showing off.
lol, a rx7 doesnt need a huge turbo to push 10lbs of boost. the stock twins can do that. if he had a large turbo upgrade, he's pushing at least 17-25lbs. a gt35r is a moderate upgrade for rx's that want to run to 15-25lbs of boost.
the fd's turbo's can handle around 15lbs of boost, but you dont wanna really get near that because it wears down so rapidly its not even funny. you're better off upgrading to a single well sized turbo.
i used to have an FD i took to the track quite frequently and on a stock motor, i was able to push the stock twins to 21psi on Q16 race fuel and made 413hp/360tq which was enough to get me to run 11.1's. i wanted to be one of the handful to run 10.9's on stock twins but i kept breaking stuff. i only went through 2 sets of twins. on the stock 60k mile turbos, and then again on a brand new OEM set that lasted for the next 2 years of abuse.
cooling is only as effective as the ducting and the tune.
if the tuner does not account for temps in the engine bay, in the coolant, after the i/c and the climate..... heat is going to be a problem.
i've never had a problem with cooling on my FD. even with the stratospheric boost pressures. (poor turbos), its all in the tune, and having attention to detail in your setup.
its neglect that will make cooling on rx7s an issue, thats where all of the "horror" stories come from
trust me, they run out of breath at 15psi.... any more after that and you're getting minimal gains from overspinning the twins and heating the air more.
18psi is the absolute limit on the stock twins tho, this is where you'll barely make 10hp per psi since the air get pretty hot being compressed that much on a small frame.
i've pushed them to 21psi because i exclusively ran race gas and just before i went single turbo i had 50/50 water/meth injection which really benefited me.
There have only been a few to push the BNRs to 400hp.... one was able to make 421hp non-seq on them, but their physical size limits the amount of power they can make because no matter how efficient they can be, they are only efficient to a certain pressure.... the BNRs are much more efficient than the stocks since they use brand new CHRAs and wheels and modified housings, they are only efficient to 21psi and then the same problem with the stockers comes into play.
That they are, but their price to power ratio is negligible since for the same price you can get a mid sized 35R, manifold, and I/C for the same price as the BNR's and with a lot more power potential.
@rotor13 you forget tuning what cost the most like 3-5k... fabrications, new pully setup, and other upgrades needed... bnr would cost thousands less to put in
if the cobra can have a kenne bell supercharger, then the 7 can have a street port, right? Although If I were going to port a rotary, I'd go with a half bridge.
they arent hard to work with.... parts are just expensive, and you need to have a higher level of attention to detail when setting clearances.... other than that, putting it together is as simple as making a sandwich.
Hey man i have seen ur car around heard u got a 20b with a t70 turbo, well i am the guy with the silver 94 rx7 in missoula mine is still stock need to replace somethings on it but got any recommendations of some parts to get oh and btw that stang is a sick ride sounds nice but ur car kinda killed it lol
THis is why the import vs domestic battle would never end. Both cars are awesome. Cobras are FAST stock. FD's are FAST stock. You're comparing apples to oranges. The cobra has a supercharged v8 from factory. The FD has a twin turbo rotary. Tiny ass engine. I think both cars deserve equal respect. All it takes is money to make either car faster.
I have seen both of these cars up close.I must say that that ford is one of the meanest sounding cars i have ever heard but the only thing it has goin for it is a procharger& front mount on a stock motor.that Rx-7, who feels his car is to good to give my fc a run,seems to have a little more than he lets on. I would guess he has a single turbo,fuel system and mabey ported rotor housings. that mustang with bolt-on's never stood a chance.
I have respect for any well tuned performance car, weather it be American or Import, I prefer Imports because of the superior cornering and feel. I had a 03' Mach 1 with a Vortech supercharger and I was eating cobras alive, now a drive a Greddy turbo'd RX8. May not 0-60 like the V8 but its allot more balanced and stable, Power band is smoother to.
When turboing a car, the boost and ability to run at correct afr and cooling of the intake air are the only things that up hp. dont cool the intake, not going to make much more hp even if you up the boost. dont give it enough fuel at boost, no more hp cause running too lean and will blow the engine. Point, 15lbs is not much. with that much, probably running around 325-350 hp depending on intercooler size and a few other variables.
im sure if the cobra had as long as a mod list as the rx7 it would be a little bit of a diff story. dont get me wrong i love all cars but its kinda like racing a fully built race car against a street car with light mods. btw i own a evo so its not like i dont like imports it just didnt seem like a fair race with modifactions.
running 15lbs is not much. its just a little more than stock. stock is around 10. the cobra had an upgrade pulley. The 7 had 2 advantages that the cobra couldnt overcome. Cd and hp/lb. The cobra had more stock hp than the 7 modded. Ford just makes the mustang heavy and bad Cd from the factory. As far as mods, most did nothing. upping boost is where just about all the hp came from for both. the other mods, especiall on the 7 were to make sure the engine ran correctly with the added boost.
if you up the boost and mod the cooling system for both the oil and the antifreeze for the 7, it will run very well. Biggest problem for 7s is just upping the boost and not compensating for the extra heat as rotaries are already hot breathers.
you're a tard, it's not the heat that kills rotaries the most, it's the lack of fuel from upping the boost, yes the heat is a problem, but trust me, the fuel is the biggest problem, how do i know? I OWN ONE!
and that t88 turbo takes forever to spool, my buddies 1jz FC has one, and the power curve is insane.
why do people call others names on here? Be civil people. Its the lack of fuel on top end cause of upping the boost that causes the extra heat that is not taken care of by having a better cooling system. Forgive the hell out of me for only having 500 characters to work with. I figured intelligent people would know the little things as yourself and the retards would say something stupid as yourself. Which one are you really. Point, quit being rude. ask what is meant. thank you. i have an 8 myself
so you comparing a piston engine to a rotary engine saying it takes a long time for my friends 1jztospool a t88?
even though since its rotary it doesnt take very long to spool a t88 becouse it gets three combustion per revolution so it takes about 1/3 the time it takes for a piston engine to do it
and i dont believe you own a rx7 becouse every car will lean out if you turn the boost up withought propor mods and even if it was lean but yet you could keep tems down it would still run perfect
40 Cid per side is alot. it will spool up quickly as it breathes heavily for a 1.3. People that talk bad about the rotary, dont understand it and, go by what others say about it without hearing the whole story. sad really
the speed at which a turbo spools is proportional to the speed the motor is running as a turbo is controlled by the exhaust gasses passing through, spinning the front half, pulling air into it. the rx7 uses a premix of a little oil and gasoline to lubricate the apex seals (the seals at the corners of the rotor) and in doing so also burns a little oil at the same time. In upping the boost it burns the extra oil that is primarily used to lubricate the seals and causes the seals to break.
just to let you know its not a premix of gas and oil. becouse pre means it is mixed before where as for a rx7 it is enjected right before the cumbustion.
and thats not what causes properly working seals to break what causes them to break is predetination or leaning out which makes it over heat.
and why are you telling me this any way i already know all this stuff. i was arguing saying a rotary spools a turbo faster than a 1jz supra.
Why is it no one else gets it that it may be a 1.3 but it is 40 CID per side. I see you know this but why do people crap on the rotary when they just say what other uneducated people say about them. I agree with everything you have said and stating some other things that others can read and understand the rotary better I hope. It is a very advanced engine with lots of potential
yeah i aggree with everything you have said to its just people on youtube think they know exactly what you are talking about and you can prove them wronge and show them facts and they will still talk shit and say this and that and can't even prove there point its crazy.
its just becouse people don't understand roatarys so they bash them becouse there 10L v8 got smoked by a 1.3
You cant believe everything you see, that could be a stock GT with Cobra bumpers unless you see whats under the hood your just doing some mental masturbation. Rx7s are so great that they stop making them, makes sense doesnt it.
they stopped making them due to cost and sales. They were 40k new. They still made them in Japan until 2001. They started the rx8 concept then. a good tuned 2 rotor tt 7 can get over 500 to the wheels. not bad for a 1.3. I will agree that unless they show with boost gauges in the cars, cannot tell if stock or modded and to what degree. also, 7s weigh about 700# less so less hp needed and Cd is better on 7 so at speed it will pull away. Mustangs have bad Cd even today.
I dont worry about about the exhaust. They stopped making them mainly cause of the price as they were 40k 18 years ago too. Supra, 3000gt/stealth, nsx all went that way. they were still made but not exported to the U.S. I also agree with the mustang thing, live rear axle is just not effective. The cobra r got it right but was short lived.
no, they stopped making them primarily because of the price, nobody wanted to shell out that kind of money for a mazda in the early nineties. sales figures show this as only about 8000 were sold in 93, 1500 in 94, and 500 in 95. Also the emissions test weren't required when the car was originally sold, at least I don't think so. But yes, they have horrible emissions regardless.
true as I said about the 40k to buy, people didnt want to pay that much. The fact that it had 2 turbos upped the price. The size of the turbo dictates the lag. I belive that is what you meant. BMW fixed this for the most part with the tt 135 and 335. One small turbo for quick spool and larger (spooled by the smaller) for high power. this way you get low end torque and high power without so much lag.
they didn't make a 2002 cobra, it was 03-04. plus a t88 turbo rx-7 should kill a cobra that doesn't have a ported blower...dont ya think?? isn't the t-88 bigger then the fuckin rotary engine?
actually if you notice the rx 7 kept pulling....if they went all the way and pinned their tachs the rx 7 would have put buses on that cobra....those t88 turbos are soooo big takes a bit to spool...not to mention that cobra with its v8 is just naturally a low end torque monster....
not as long as you think due to having 40 CID per side that is more than a 4.6 per piston. The rotary breathes very heavily. It sucks in alot more air than a piston 1.3 by a mile. It actually breathes more like a 3.9 above 5k. rotaries are not your ave engine.
hey i have found mazdas in australia with 2002 prodution dates but i think that they imported by mazda australia then distributed to dealerships can someone inform me if thats true i love my mazdas i get 5%of any new mazda because they sponsor my afl team that im member of woot
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LMFAO ok so i read the mods for the cobra, how do you put a smaller supercharger pulley on a car that has NO supercharger? if it was a termi then that RX would have seen that cobras taillights from the start
your right man, they made cobras in 99 and 2001 then in 03 and 04, dumbass rice motherfuckers dont know shit about real cars!! the cobra in this vid was obviously an 01, (notice the absence of the badass sounding supercharger)and before and dumbfuck ricers say anything, yes you could have heard it even though the the wind was extremely loud because the superchargers are pretty loud themselves!!
the cobra was a 99-01. not an 03 i can tell by the front clip. 99-01 4v's run slightly faster than the 2v gt's stock. rx7 with mods should pull it no problem
Actually bro I know some mustangs that would pick there teeth with most cars on the road... just depends how there modified ... If you got deep pockets and know what your doing it's a wrap .... but I give props to the rotary power because I know dudes that have tricked those engines out to seriously scream ...
remember the b2000 the b3000 ford did own mazda in 93. i would buy an rx7 before a fox body but to state that an american car got owned. american car owns
the b2000 was an american pick up truck made by mazda from american designers "in america". rx7 is a mazda from the main company befor it got compleatly bought out in "96"(ithink. eny one could own a mcdonalds but when your able to say all of them are yours thats a different story. wankle bro its all in the name (it dosnt sound like john or hank to me ).
wtf thats off the topyc lol. and no mazda didnt make the 2.0 it made the 1.3. the 2.0 is a aftermaket 1.3 engine that was added another rotor just like a 4 rotor. you gotta know some one who knows how to make one in order to get one. and v6 is a discrase to its name. no one i know that drives a v6 is proud to say they drive a v6. all they say is i couldnt afford the v8.
geez i'm not talking to you and not talking about the fucking rotary. and i don't want a v8, because it's a truck engine. buy the a good jap v6 is more expensive than a american v8.
lol u dumbshit get ur facts straight the 20B rotary motor came in the mazda cosmo (only avilable in EU,JA) 2.0L 3 rotors twin turbo no its not aftermarket and yes it rapes.
bro you cant buy a 3 rotor and say you bought it from mazda it is made and their is no reason to put a TT on a 2.0. the people that i know have a 2.0 wouldnt put a TT on it and only one of them has a single T78 turbo and he said its just asking for truble.
and the 2.0 didnt come from the cosmos 2.0 dumbshit. the only thing they got from that for the rx7 3rd gen was that it would use those two twin turbos but the cosmo 2.0 dont fit on the rx7. so next time you talk make shure you have your facts straight
Actually the 20b three rotor that you put in a 3rd gen is from the cosmo. Also they are twin turbo charged from the factory, and you can put a single turbo on them with a good tune. so next time you talk make shure you have your facts straight
o and you can put the 20B-RE in the 2nd gen as well and yes you can buy the engines but they are pricey unless you know where to buy them at. the cheapest country to sell them is australia but a few minor objects may be missing...shhhhh and you really dont need TT for the 20B you can get a Big Turbo and that will be enuf power and like i said before you can BUY a 3 rotor
doesnt matter what kind of mustang that was, saleen, cobra, gt etc, that rx7 is almost 700lbs lighter then any mustang plus its been tuned up, any mustang would of been beaten..just cause its a ford aka found on road dead. with a big v8 dont mean shit
I own an FD rx7 and eat mustangs all day everyday - supercharged or stroked. For some of you guys it might take lots of brain power to understand the rotary engine concept, but believe me it has it's advantages.
Sorry Bout ur friend Man
BillingsMTStreets 4 months ago
Sorry about your friend in the Cobra/ZO6. May he RIP. :-(
worldofthunder 8 months ago
ricers!!! ricers everywere O.o
xIEnVyIx 9 months ago
race from a 45 mph roll and the roots style supercharged car will lose to a spooled up turbo. from a light i belive the mustang wins. in the 1/4 mile neither car will hit 125 mph, so a race like this doesnt prove much but i love those RX7s. my wife has a nice RX8 but i like that model RX7 , i think it is the best looking car they made.
sinister99gt 1 year ago
i can't wait for my piston eaters rebirth,i love smoking super charged v8s but now with a 20b bridgeport C block and a gt5533r and twin 60mm gates its MUNCH MUNCH PISTON FOR LUNCH
rollzon20z 1 year ago
i think i saw back fire nice
Scorpion951 1 year ago
you got beat by something called a wankel. A 1.3l washing machine.
prisonbreak7760 1 year ago
ford can suck it o wait it already did
saltwateraquaruim 1 year ago
A t88 turbo to beat a pullied cobra?
Come on.
Roger0416 1 year ago 2
@Roger0416 1.3 vs 4.6
albodude93 1 year ago
@Roger0416
a T88 is laggy and old turbo tech, and at 15psi, its way out of its efficiency range. if the T88 was pushing more like 25+psi, then the Cobra wouldve been left behind as if it was standing still.
A 35R with a .84a/r turbine pushing the same 15psi would do better as its more responsive on the low-end and still carries airflow up top.
rotor13 1 year ago
@Roger0416
Greddys T78 and T88's are based on old diesel turbo designs, mainly because a cost effective LARGE framed turbo for imports were not yet being produced.
Thus this is why most people who know the truth behind Greddys two largest turbo's, hate it.... stupid expensive from Greddy, laggy, not efficient for street applications, and a turbo of the same specs and size can be had for dirt cheap.
rotor13 1 year ago
@Roger0416
I bought a used journal bearing T88 almost 8 years ago for my MKIV Supra for $250 with blown seals. rebuilt it with new wheels, shaft and seals and balanced all for $500. the turbo in total cost me $800 including shipping costs. and the most power my supra could get on race gas was 762rwhp@32psi.
The same supra now has a GT45 pushing 35psi making 1122rwhp on E85, on a brand new OEM block with just head studs, gasket, 264 cams, and billet main caps with arp hardware.
car has 120k mi
rotor13 1 year ago
LOVE RX7 check this nasty rx 7 vs bikes perronrx7 vs bike
tupaparx7t2 1 year ago
WTF!?!?! NOOOO!!! MONICA!!!!! XD
95stangdude 1 year ago 2
oh yea rx7 ftw
killarota7 1 year ago
haha mustang can suck it
itzjonah 1 year ago 3
damn! that is on clean RX-7
LynxOGrady 2 years ago
oh man... this song is sick, but not as sick as that rx-7. anyone know the name? wait nvm im stupid
adiomang 2 years ago
rx7 aint no joke..
NightCrawler209 2 years ago 8
awesome song man..
qxts1 2 years ago
LOL how many cylinders dose it take to beat a boosted V8? the correct answer is 0
evilEKegg 2 years ago 20
rotary powuhhhh
zoom zoom ftw
scandmx5atl 2 years ago
I have actually raced the 'Termi' in the video with my 01 Cobra. I know from experience that the Mustang in this video is f*ckin' fast, so respect to the RX7 owner.
populous2 2 years ago
rx7s have 850cc primary injectors and 1600cc secondaries stock..why would someone put 650s on it lol.
c93fd3s 2 years ago
stock FDs have 550cc primaries and 850cc secondaries
jherther86 2 years ago
@c93fd3s
the powerband he has is probably so lopsided in the high end that he probably doesn't need much down low. no idea why he wouldn't just stick with the stock primaries over the fc sized primaries.
Truenofan 2 years ago
@Truenofan
The FD3S stock primaries are 550cc. They were originally upgraded to 800cc, but when the car was being tuned there was an electrical issue with the injectors, so 650cc replaced them for the sake of the tune.
dumbkevin 1 year ago
FD33, FD3S is japan, made the change starting wit the SA22 to FB.
moving on, i shoulda known the primaries were larger than the fc stock, since the fd pushes more boost in the lower rpms due to the sequential turbo's. just me having a brainfart.
Truenofan 1 year ago
@c93fd3s no they dont. go do some research
rotor13 1 year ago
WTF!!!! roll races prove nothing you might as well go to a dyno fag and become a dyno queen. I dont like mustangs but the 03 cobra comon i give credit when credit is due at thats a terminator race him off the line unless you dont know how to race lol. the rx-7 most def had way more hp but with his big ass turbo and prob 10 + pounds of boost would win any roll race even if he was drunk on zanex and smoking a joint lol...... just remember racing for a roll is not racing its showing off.
eXpLoiTeD420 2 years ago
lol, a rx7 doesnt need a huge turbo to push 10lbs of boost. the stock twins can do that. if he had a large turbo upgrade, he's pushing at least 17-25lbs. a gt35r is a moderate upgrade for rx's that want to run to 15-25lbs of boost.
Truenofan 2 years ago
i acually think that the HT-12 turbos on the 13B-REW can support up to 12lbs of boost
LynxOGrady 2 years ago
@LynxOGrady
the fd's turbo's can handle around 15lbs of boost, but you dont wanna really get near that because it wears down so rapidly its not even funny. you're better off upgrading to a single well sized turbo.
Truenofan 2 years ago
@LynxOGrady
They can take quite a beating actually.
i used to have an FD i took to the track quite frequently and on a stock motor, i was able to push the stock twins to 21psi on Q16 race fuel and made 413hp/360tq which was enough to get me to run 11.1's. i wanted to be one of the handful to run 10.9's on stock twins but i kept breaking stuff. i only went through 2 sets of twins. on the stock 60k mile turbos, and then again on a brand new OEM set that lasted for the next 2 years of abuse.
rotor13 1 year ago
@rotor13 How was cooling? Ive heard some things about the 13B not taking to kindly to high heat
LynxOGrady 1 year ago
@LynxOGrady
cooling is only as effective as the ducting and the tune.
if the tuner does not account for temps in the engine bay, in the coolant, after the i/c and the climate..... heat is going to be a problem.
i've never had a problem with cooling on my FD. even with the stratospheric boost pressures. (poor turbos), its all in the tune, and having attention to detail in your setup.
its neglect that will make cooling on rx7s an issue, thats where all of the "horror" stories come from
rotor13 1 year ago
@rotor13 I didn't know the stock twins could push more then 380whp without running out of breath...
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056
trust me, they run out of breath at 15psi.... any more after that and you're getting minimal gains from overspinning the twins and heating the air more.
18psi is the absolute limit on the stock twins tho, this is where you'll barely make 10hp per psi since the air get pretty hot being compressed that much on a small frame.
i've pushed them to 21psi because i exclusively ran race gas and just before i went single turbo i had 50/50 water/meth injection which really benefited me.
rotor13 1 year ago
@rotor13 please share this info on rx7 club forums! they think the twins will blow up before 380hp
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056
The info is on rx7club.... but its not a very reliable setup im afraid...
Like as its said.... absolute power, corrupts absolutely.... thats why everyone prefers going single
rotor13 1 year ago
@rotor13 or bnr twins to make 400hp+
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056
There have only been a few to push the BNRs to 400hp.... one was able to make 421hp non-seq on them, but their physical size limits the amount of power they can make because no matter how efficient they can be, they are only efficient to a certain pressure.... the BNRs are much more efficient than the stocks since they use brand new CHRAs and wheels and modified housings, they are only efficient to 21psi and then the same problem with the stockers comes into play.
rotor13 1 year ago
@rotor13 hmm I have been told that the bnr are used for 400whp+
Tj1056 1 year ago
@Tj1056
That they are, but their price to power ratio is negligible since for the same price you can get a mid sized 35R, manifold, and I/C for the same price as the BNR's and with a lot more power potential.
I have not seen BNR's break 430hp.
rotor13 1 year ago
@rotor13 you forget tuning what cost the most like 3-5k... fabrications, new pully setup, and other upgrades needed... bnr would cost thousands less to put in
Tj1056 1 year ago
cobra is slightly modded. just add 1 mod and you'll eat that rx7. KENNE BELL
mickster026 2 years ago
if the cobra can have a kenne bell supercharger, then the 7 can have a street port, right? Although If I were going to port a rotary, I'd go with a half bridge.
Drive4Jesus 2 years ago
Who cares, cobra costs like 100 RX7's. lol
ShadowwwLFS 2 years ago
does HKS Twin Power Ignition come with a launch control?
Markgt 2 years ago
@Markgt
nope.
the Twin Power is just an ignition amplifier.
rotor13 1 year ago
Damn Skinner! That dude handed you your ass.
a2birdcage 2 years ago
dang if rotary engines werent so much work id love to have an RX7 them shits are violent.
WestheLegend 2 years ago 3
@WestheLegend
they arent hard to work with.... parts are just expensive, and you need to have a higher level of attention to detail when setting clearances.... other than that, putting it together is as simple as making a sandwich.
rotor13 1 year ago
Do you have water injection or some sort of auxiliary injection on the FD?
Rollogic 2 years ago
No water or Meth injection on the FD at the moment. Water injection and a new fuel pump and it should be able to run with a lot more boost.
dumbkevin 2 years ago
On the first pull you can see the reflection of the FD throwing a flame in the cobras paint.
infectrus 2 years ago
Go FD GO!!!!
sjoey 2 years ago
VNV Epicentre
It does not sound like the normal version of the song. Is this a remix? If so which one?
Do you know where I could get this version of the song?
Thanks in advance
Will
thewilhelm 2 years ago
Hey man i have seen ur car around heard u got a 20b with a t70 turbo, well i am the guy with the silver 94 rx7 in missoula mine is still stock need to replace somethings on it but got any recommendations of some parts to get oh and btw that stang is a sick ride sounds nice but ur car kinda killed it lol
DJBertot101 2 years ago
ROTARY POWER!!
crashhit 2 years ago
THis is why the import vs domestic battle would never end. Both cars are awesome. Cobras are FAST stock. FD's are FAST stock. You're comparing apples to oranges. The cobra has a supercharged v8 from factory. The FD has a twin turbo rotary. Tiny ass engine. I think both cars deserve equal respect. All it takes is money to make either car faster.
theguy1224 3 years ago 3
I have seen both of these cars up close.I must say that that ford is one of the meanest sounding cars i have ever heard but the only thing it has goin for it is a procharger& front mount on a stock motor.that Rx-7, who feels his car is to good to give my fc a run,seems to have a little more than he lets on. I would guess he has a single turbo,fuel system and mabey ported rotor housings. that mustang with bolt-on's never stood a chance.
chuckhole78 3 years ago
Can I ask when it was that you wanted to race the FD, and how the it rejected the offer?
Also most of the mods are in the description.
dumbkevin 3 years ago
I have respect for any well tuned performance car, weather it be American or Import, I prefer Imports because of the superior cornering and feel. I had a 03' Mach 1 with a Vortech supercharger and I was eating cobras alive, now a drive a Greddy turbo'd RX8. May not 0-60 like the V8 but its allot more balanced and stable, Power band is smoother to.
psychosis182 3 years ago
Email me sometime. I have a few questions for you if you dont mind.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
350 vs 400+ can still win due to the mustang being over 700lbs heavier and Cd is about .29 vs .34 or so. big difference at speed.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
When turboing a car, the boost and ability to run at correct afr and cooling of the intake air are the only things that up hp. dont cool the intake, not going to make much more hp even if you up the boost. dont give it enough fuel at boost, no more hp cause running too lean and will blow the engine. Point, 15lbs is not much. with that much, probably running around 325-350 hp depending on intercooler size and a few other variables.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
ahahah FUCK AMERiCAn MUSCLE!
inbred peices of shit
designed by the rednecks...for the rednecks
eeiko321 3 years ago
im sure if the cobra had as long as a mod list as the rx7 it would be a little bit of a diff story. dont get me wrong i love all cars but its kinda like racing a fully built race car against a street car with light mods. btw i own a evo so its not like i dont like imports it just didnt seem like a fair race with modifactions.
lck780064 3 years ago
running 15lbs is not much. its just a little more than stock. stock is around 10. the cobra had an upgrade pulley. The 7 had 2 advantages that the cobra couldnt overcome. Cd and hp/lb. The cobra had more stock hp than the 7 modded. Ford just makes the mustang heavy and bad Cd from the factory. As far as mods, most did nothing. upping boost is where just about all the hp came from for both. the other mods, especiall on the 7 were to make sure the engine ran correctly with the added boost.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
well
rx7 is more efficient with the output performance
theres plenty of videos of mustangs getting chopped.
there is a good video of a mustang which is highly modded where a street supra still blitzed it.
hopeless cars.
eeiko321 3 years ago
goddamit that's a mustang cobra. FUCK!
PukaMan 3 years ago
Rotary > Piston.
ToddyWestbeach 3 years ago
a mustang is such a pos
nismoking1994 3 years ago
I would rather have the 7. when the curves come it will leave the cobra in the dust.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
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i would take a cobra over anything..
MutinyEatsChips 3 years ago
you dont know anything of cars if you want a cobra piece of american shit..
laythesmack23 3 years ago
man ur slippin fu that rotary is way better
tinajera972 3 years ago
wow haha that rx7 needed more than 7 mods.
mickster026 3 years ago
Pfft, Mustangs are rubbish. I beat a mustang cobra in a car that was made in 1986 and cost me $5,500 AUD!
bnz500 3 years ago
if you up the boost and mod the cooling system for both the oil and the antifreeze for the 7, it will run very well. Biggest problem for 7s is just upping the boost and not compensating for the extra heat as rotaries are already hot breathers.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
you're a tard, it's not the heat that kills rotaries the most, it's the lack of fuel from upping the boost, yes the heat is a problem, but trust me, the fuel is the biggest problem, how do i know? I OWN ONE!
and that t88 turbo takes forever to spool, my buddies 1jz FC has one, and the power curve is insane.
gator742007 3 years ago
why do people call others names on here? Be civil people. Its the lack of fuel on top end cause of upping the boost that causes the extra heat that is not taken care of by having a better cooling system. Forgive the hell out of me for only having 500 characters to work with. I figured intelligent people would know the little things as yourself and the retards would say something stupid as yourself. Which one are you really. Point, quit being rude. ask what is meant. thank you. i have an 8 myself
cliffkemp 3 years ago
so you comparing a piston engine to a rotary engine saying it takes a long time for my friends 1jztospool a t88?
even though since its rotary it doesnt take very long to spool a t88 becouse it gets three combustion per revolution so it takes about 1/3 the time it takes for a piston engine to do it
and i dont believe you own a rx7 becouse every car will lean out if you turn the boost up withought propor mods and even if it was lean but yet you could keep tems down it would still run perfect
25evets 3 years ago
40 Cid per side is alot. it will spool up quickly as it breathes heavily for a 1.3. People that talk bad about the rotary, dont understand it and, go by what others say about it without hearing the whole story. sad really
cliffkemp 3 years ago
i know i love rotary's light weight powerfull sound soooo good.
if i see a rx7 in my town i stick my dick in its 3inch exhaust while flames are burning my pubes and i enjoi it :)
anti piston for life!
25evets 3 years ago
lol
cliffkemp 3 years ago
the speed at which a turbo spools is proportional to the speed the motor is running as a turbo is controlled by the exhaust gasses passing through, spinning the front half, pulling air into it. the rx7 uses a premix of a little oil and gasoline to lubricate the apex seals (the seals at the corners of the rotor) and in doing so also burns a little oil at the same time. In upping the boost it burns the extra oil that is primarily used to lubricate the seals and causes the seals to break.
gator742007 3 years ago
just to let you know its not a premix of gas and oil. becouse pre means it is mixed before where as for a rx7 it is enjected right before the cumbustion.
and thats not what causes properly working seals to break what causes them to break is predetination or leaning out which makes it over heat.
and why are you telling me this any way i already know all this stuff. i was arguing saying a rotary spools a turbo faster than a 1jz supra.
25evets 3 years ago
Why is it no one else gets it that it may be a 1.3 but it is 40 CID per side. I see you know this but why do people crap on the rotary when they just say what other uneducated people say about them. I agree with everything you have said and stating some other things that others can read and understand the rotary better I hope. It is a very advanced engine with lots of potential
cliffkemp 3 years ago
yeah i aggree with everything you have said to its just people on youtube think they know exactly what you are talking about and you can prove them wronge and show them facts and they will still talk shit and say this and that and can't even prove there point its crazy.
its just becouse people don't understand roatarys so they bash them becouse there 10L v8 got smoked by a 1.3
25evets 3 years ago
amen to that
cliffkemp 3 years ago
You cant believe everything you see, that could be a stock GT with Cobra bumpers unless you see whats under the hood your just doing some mental masturbation. Rx7s are so great that they stop making them, makes sense doesnt it.
venomousstang 3 years ago
they stopped making them due to cost and sales. They were 40k new. They still made them in Japan until 2001. They started the rx8 concept then. a good tuned 2 rotor tt 7 can get over 500 to the wheels. not bad for a 1.3. I will agree that unless they show with boost gauges in the cars, cannot tell if stock or modded and to what degree. also, 7s weigh about 700# less so less hp needed and Cd is better on 7 so at speed it will pull away. Mustangs have bad Cd even today.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
or the the fact that the rx7 is hard to get to pass emesion test and some stock can't even do it in californa thats why they stopped making them.
and what the kid below me said.
plus fuck mustangs they can't turn worth shit.
25evets 3 years ago
I dont worry about about the exhaust. They stopped making them mainly cause of the price as they were 40k 18 years ago too. Supra, 3000gt/stealth, nsx all went that way. they were still made but not exported to the U.S. I also agree with the mustang thing, live rear axle is just not effective. The cobra r got it right but was short lived.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
no, they stopped making them primarily because of the price, nobody wanted to shell out that kind of money for a mazda in the early nineties. sales figures show this as only about 8000 were sold in 93, 1500 in 94, and 500 in 95. Also the emissions test weren't required when the car was originally sold, at least I don't think so. But yes, they have horrible emissions regardless.
gator742007 3 years ago
true as I said about the 40k to buy, people didnt want to pay that much. The fact that it had 2 turbos upped the price. The size of the turbo dictates the lag. I belive that is what you meant. BMW fixed this for the most part with the tt 135 and 335. One small turbo for quick spool and larger (spooled by the smaller) for high power. this way you get low end torque and high power without so much lag.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
they didn't make a 2002 cobra, it was 03-04. plus a t88 turbo rx-7 should kill a cobra that doesn't have a ported blower...dont ya think?? isn't the t-88 bigger then the fuckin rotary engine?
SpdDemon69 3 years ago
they made cobras from 1993-up, just the 03 and 04s were the supercharged ones. 2002 cobra was just a four valve 4.6
funkbuster 3 years ago
i no....but the COBRAS were 03 and 04.....just cuz it had the badge doesn't make it a cobra...maybe he typo'd.
SpdDemon69 3 years ago
i have seen both cars i live in that town and yes they r both wat they claim to be they both do the ncaa races thou out montana
DJBertot101 2 years ago
actually if you notice the rx 7 kept pulling....if they went all the way and pinned their tachs the rx 7 would have put buses on that cobra....those t88 turbos are soooo big takes a bit to spool...not to mention that cobra with its v8 is just naturally a low end torque monster....
iamb3nc 3 years ago
especially long time for a 1.3L to spool a turbo of that size
funkbuster 3 years ago
not as long as you think due to having 40 CID per side that is more than a 4.6 per piston. The rotary breathes very heavily. It sucks in alot more air than a piston 1.3 by a mile. It actually breathes more like a 3.9 above 5k. rotaries are not your ave engine.
cliffkemp 3 years ago
keep it on the track :)
mavdrummer754 3 years ago
rx7 is much more modified and barely beat it
SirNaggerOfJones 3 years ago
takes a little more mods to make a 1.3L able to run with a 4.6L you know
funkbuster 3 years ago 2
true, true. and a lot more money
SirNaggerOfJones 3 years ago
yea but that 1.3 weighs nothing compared to the cobra, and its got way more in it.
SpdDemon69 3 years ago
some people should google information before they start talking just to know they think they are right is annoying
SNIPINGBEAVER 3 years ago
hey i have found mazdas in australia with 2002 prodution dates but i think that they imported by mazda australia then distributed to dealerships can someone inform me if thats true i love my mazdas i get 5%of any new mazda because they sponsor my afl team that im member of woot
nachospole1 3 years ago
spanked
SkylinesTheLimit 3 years ago
Actually in early 2002, the 2003 Cobra came with a supercharged 4.6 L DOHC engine rated at 390 hp.
sirrolfems 3 years ago
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LMFAO ok so i read the mods for the cobra, how do you put a smaller supercharger pulley on a car that has NO supercharger? if it was a termi then that RX would have seen that cobras taillights from the start
ZED0456 3 years ago
stop providing false information >.>..do some research first if you're gonna be a ford fan
keinikaidoh 3 years ago
Yea it was a good race but the Cobra is a 01, no such thing as a 02 and if it was a 03 you would have heard the SC and seen brake lights..Sorry.
N29468 3 years ago
and if you havn't noticed...the RX-7's last production date in the US is 1993
keinikaidoh 3 years ago
That is false... stopped in 1995
booby173 3 years ago
its was 1995 keinikaidoh...
LandonGear 3 years ago
ya cuz i have a hleft hand driver rx7 thats a 94
DJBertot101 2 years ago
That RX7 left the Cobra begging for him momma. Hahahaha. Good race.
Nihil2005 3 years ago
allrite record . 8 out of 10 in a row tat i search , has rx7 won american car . oh well
yagam1 3 years ago
both very nice car, sexy ~ !! but straight line pick up is not so sexy .....
S200069 3 years ago
i gotta admit there both really good cars
sirpillow69 3 years ago
There is no such thing as an 02 cobra.
yeahdude1 3 years ago 2
your right man, they made cobras in 99 and 2001 then in 03 and 04, dumbass rice motherfuckers dont know shit about real cars!! the cobra in this vid was obviously an 01, (notice the absence of the badass sounding supercharger)and before and dumbfuck ricers say anything, yes you could have heard it even though the the wind was extremely loud because the superchargers are pretty loud themselves!!
542589 3 years ago
Its got a fuckin t88. Put a t88 on a yugo and it will fuckin own a cobra lol. Plus its the size of a small child.
fireisfatal 3 years ago
the cobra should file a case againts the 7, cause he just got raped
ELBENJAMINZ 3 years ago
rotary power son!
RotaryOrNothing 3 years ago
edit:my bad got another look at the vid it is an 03 04 front lip and hood. good run. rx7's always sound like cessna's lol
chillt83 3 years ago
the cobra was a 99-01. not an 03 i can tell by the front clip. 99-01 4v's run slightly faster than the 2v gt's stock. rx7 with mods should pull it no problem
chillt83 3 years ago
wow mustangs are a waste of gas and money.....rx7 best car in the world period
ELBENJAMINZ 3 years ago
Nah i'd rather have a Supra instead of an Rx7
AG1225 3 years ago
fuck a supra id rather have a R-34 Nissan Skyline GT-R VSpec 2 or 3. i mean i love my FC3S but ooooooo if i had one of those *drools*
kzoney 3 years ago
i couldnt choose between an rx7 or skyline...
abominableaussieman 3 years ago
supra? lol ... ... ...
keinikaidoh 3 years ago
rotary engine is not enough reliable to be the best car in the world.
yoman2002 3 years ago
dude if u knoe about cars than u know that mustangs suck bro, is just life sorry
ELBENJAMINZ 3 years ago
Actually bro I know some mustangs that would pick there teeth with most cars on the road... just depends how there modified ... If you got deep pockets and know what your doing it's a wrap .... but I give props to the rotary power because I know dudes that have tricked those engines out to seriously scream ...
funkyflights 3 years ago 2
it all depends whether the owner gives it good maintenance or not.
Nihil2005 3 years ago
ahahhah another american car got owned! MaZdA4LiFe!
ajyabhilash 3 years ago
who is mazda's parent company?
OKAYUSA30 3 years ago
ford wasnt the owner when the RX7 was out bro they bought it like 10 years ago!!!!!
EASYAXES 3 years ago
remember the b2000 the b3000 ford did own mazda in 93. i would buy an rx7 before a fox body but to state that an american car got owned. american car owns
OKAYUSA30 3 years ago
the b2000 was an american pick up truck made by mazda from american designers "in america". rx7 is a mazda from the main company befor it got compleatly bought out in "96"(ithink. eny one could own a mcdonalds but when your able to say all of them are yours thats a different story. wankle bro its all in the name (it dosnt sound like john or hank to me ).
EASYAXES 3 years ago
little engine like this 2.0 was made by mazda, ford made v6
yoman2002 3 years ago
wtf thats off the topyc lol. and no mazda didnt make the 2.0 it made the 1.3. the 2.0 is a aftermaket 1.3 engine that was added another rotor just like a 4 rotor. you gotta know some one who knows how to make one in order to get one. and v6 is a discrase to its name. no one i know that drives a v6 is proud to say they drive a v6. all they say is i couldnt afford the v8.
EASYAXES 3 years ago
geez i'm not talking to you and not talking about the fucking rotary. and i don't want a v8, because it's a truck engine. buy the a good jap v6 is more expensive than a american v8.
yoman2002 3 years ago
lol u dumbshit get ur facts straight the 20B rotary motor came in the mazda cosmo (only avilable in EU,JA) 2.0L 3 rotors twin turbo no its not aftermarket and yes it rapes.
evilEKegg 3 years ago
bro you cant buy a 3 rotor and say you bought it from mazda it is made and their is no reason to put a TT on a 2.0. the people that i know have a 2.0 wouldnt put a TT on it and only one of them has a single T78 turbo and he said its just asking for truble.
EASYAXES 3 years ago
and the 2.0 didnt come from the cosmos 2.0 dumbshit. the only thing they got from that for the rx7 3rd gen was that it would use those two twin turbos but the cosmo 2.0 dont fit on the rx7. so next time you talk make shure you have your facts straight
EASYAXES 3 years ago
Actually the 20b three rotor that you put in a 3rd gen is from the cosmo. Also they are twin turbo charged from the factory, and you can put a single turbo on them with a good tune. so next time you talk make shure you have your facts straight
dumbkevin 3 years ago
o and you can put the 20B-RE in the 2nd gen as well and yes you can buy the engines but they are pricey unless you know where to buy them at. the cheapest country to sell them is australia but a few minor objects may be missing...shhhhh and you really dont need TT for the 20B you can get a Big Turbo and that will be enuf power and like i said before you can BUY a 3 rotor
kzoney 3 years ago
i plan to put a 20B in my first gen someday. But i dont want to go turbo, just an n/a extend port
abominableaussieman 3 years ago
I know the mustang personally. It's and 03 termintator. It has a 2.8 pulley, intake and catback exhaust. That's it. The FD is a fast little car.
studlee337 3 years ago 2
haha hey cobra come on man its only 1.3ltr....
g1s0x0r0k6 3 years ago
its really funny that the cobra has a supercharger pulley kit, but no supercharger...
GiggleGoer 3 years ago
power to weight ratio is a bitch lol!fuck mustangs, i hate em.
PFCTurner311 3 years ago 3
doesnt matter what kind of mustang that was, saleen, cobra, gt etc, that rx7 is almost 700lbs lighter then any mustang plus its been tuned up, any mustang would of been beaten..just cause its a ford aka found on road dead. with a big v8 dont mean shit
sdmp1978 3 years ago
imports baby
lilghummer 3 years ago
The Info area has the info on the cars. If you decide to read it then you will be informed, if not please continue posting uninformed comments.
dumbkevin 3 years ago 2
lol...Thats Not a cobra you would hear the pully witch you clearing cant...Plus you the GT sybol on the back...haha...i real cobra would own the rx7
dfehr69 3 years ago
thats the SVT badge on the back... not GT
fullcf4ever 3 years ago
Those rx7's are so sick. I'm an american sports car fan, but those cars are so potent its incredible.
z06speed25 3 years ago 2
now do u see why u dont mess with the triangle
matt921 3 years ago 2
SEEEEE YAAAAA!!!
strahinje 3 years ago
ahahhaha go MazDA! Fucking shit got owned!
ajyabhilash 3 years ago
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and that cobra wasnt even supercharged, it came pretty close to beating the rx7 naturally aspirated!!!
542589 3 years ago
It was supercharged, please don't be stupid.
dumbkevin 3 years ago 2
Hmmm, info says 'supercharger pulley kit' for the ruststang. How is it N/A?
boy0859 3 years ago
only 03-04 cobras were supercharged from the factory
fenderguitar6890 3 years ago
another 7 killing a v8 woot
rotara666 3 years ago 3
I own an FD rx7 and eat mustangs all day everyday - supercharged or stroked. For some of you guys it might take lots of brain power to understand the rotary engine concept, but believe me it has it's advantages.
Good call on the VNV nation track!
CG
ChristGonzo 3 years ago 2
dam u have a nice v8 killa there rx 7 all the way
MRGEYEZ 3 years ago 5
lol and who says theres no replacement for displacement :P
asasin008 3 years ago 2
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dumb kevin, kennen bell cobra eat ur shit dumbfuck
supramatt1 3 years ago