@houseoflightkarate but the goal is not for him to total beat the hell out of them. His skill level is far beyond theirs. They need to be pushed quite hard but also allowed to display a but of offense. Regardless of how tough they r, their still females.
I think its crap that the opponent was asked to lighten up because she was testing. The goal of the opponents in my shodan test was to try their hardest to make me give up. By that point your instructor should know you cam fight. It becomes about how much you can take and continue to take to become part of the elite.
The guys obviously holding back alot but it does come off as being cocky. If it were my black belt test id want the instructor to show effort on me but with seriousness, i mean cmon its a black belt test.
I will have to say Although I dont like Take My Do schools the good thing that they are doing is leting there students feel some pain in a fight. If some of you think this guy was hitting her to hard or not respecting that she is a women, you are wrong. If you dont know how it feels to get hit what will happen when she has to defend her self for real? You need to feel it before you can learn how to defend aganist it. I feel sorry for those who dont train hands on.
unfair matchup. that dude clearly knows he can win, but surely shows disrespect by hitting her in the face. I'm a blackbelt as well, but definitely now how to you treat lower belts.
I disgree. If I posted a video of me sparring my instructor you would probably comment the same thing. But I love my instructor and he's a great guy who I know loves to have fun. As you can see they bow showing respect. That's what we do. We spar and whatever happens during sparring doesn't matter as it's all good. That's why you see MMA guys hugging and congratulating even if they talk dirty and do this type of stuff during the fight.
@kuyaGEN understandable but its a blackbelt test + he was called up to spar here so she'd have a challenge...the other girl did ok but she needed someone who could show her how a blackbelt should spar...i think she did good i think there was a little bit to much punching but they all did good
wow.. much respect for the higher ranks but i wanna see him do that to me T_ T .. that was not control and pretty disrespectful even tho she is a lower rank
I don't think this is bad at all. so what he drops his hands, if he had needed to raise his hands, he would have. the women didn't have much in the way of a sense of range. in other words, they couldn't close the distance. but that is understandable for people of their rank.
i think the young man in this video is very disrespectful to his partner. dropping his hands and letting her know haha u cant touch me. is wrong and he is a disgrace to your school.
Yah I mean if you're gonna be involved in a black belt test you could at least look as though you were really sparring seriously, and if thats how he spars when he's serious i'm seriously sorry for him.
You can give any opinion you like, I don't know what base you have to call them inexperienced, there's 24 years exp between just the two girls testing. I'll feel bad for you if everything you do in ma is run Luke a bootcamp. The grandmaster was making a joke to his granddaughter. Our chain of command, dicipline and respect are thoroughly enforced thru our trainings. Where and whom do you train with, again I ask what experience do u have with tsd, or sbd. With whom have you trained with or met.
Opinion about the great hwang kee will be different. N don't try n classify my dad in a manner that disrespevrs TSD, he's a life long practicioner Dan #5845 under the mdk and hwang kee and helped co found world tang soo do association with his master jc shin. What experience or history exactly do u have with the moo duk kwan, tang soo do or soo bahk do to throw an off the wall opinion about a 9th Dan 1st gen practicioner?
@clinganc There is something else to understand in martial arts that can only come with time and experience.
That being said, I'm also sad to see that I can't give my opinion because this guy is a 9th dan practioner. Do people have to shut up because they don't agree with their government? I'm a strong believer that discipline and respect are inherent in martial arts. That's not what I see in this video.
@blougwtf so your saying this is a useless fed giving other feds a bad name? If you can't have a good time doing something then why do it. And the point of humor came from the board creating humor. I'd love to come train in your sbd class, sbd is the biggest sellout commercial Korean art I've seen, there's nothing pure about it and everything hwang kee and HC hwang have ever tried to day regarding its lineage is bs. I highly recommend reading a book by a TSD bb name john hancock n maybe your...
- I think that some martial arts federations, including SBD/TSD' one, are not doing their jobs by not imposing enough discipline, rules and legitimate hierarchy inside their organisation.
- I think that they do that on purpose, making it easier to make their art more popular.
- I think they miss the point of martial arts giving black belts to many inexperienced fighters, I mean inexperienced, not necessarily unskilled.
Talking about that guy's behaviour is a one thing, but toying and laughing at a black belt exam? How serious is that?
I've seen some unskilled 12 years old boys having soo bahk do black belts. When I can understand the legitimacy of such a martial art, I definitely hate these useless federations caring more about popularity by giving black belts to anybody that has 2 years of poor training, than the values of their art.
At the end, this is just disrespectful to other martial arts in general.
Injustice by never pushing the limits with some sort of contact. Some may not agree but based on my dads 50+ year career his students have excelled based on our training methods.
We do understand this type of contact is for everyone, however we do not believe in conforming to everyone else's preferences or creating a false sense of security or skill level especially to our bb, I've seen first hand martial artists who have never sparred semi or full contact get hurt on the streets. If all you do is light contact and one steps that's all your body would know in a real situation and considering majority of ppl take class for self defense, you'd be doing them a great...
@0x12d3 some women in our gym defineatly aren't comfortable sparring like this, these two however are. The girl w pink gloves is my niece and the grandmasters granddaughter, this is how we've trained our whole lives, the second has been with us for 8 or so years and was at the time of this vid an amateur mma fighter, now pro mma fighter. Nobody forced them into this but this is how we spar, this is probly 70% contact as we do on sum occasions go lighter or harder. Keep in mind its also a bb test
Wow. I knew what I was about to see. This girl certainly knew what she signed up for, and I'm glad she'd doing what she enjoys, but this definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I train along side females as well, none of them are on a level where they spar yet, but to each his own, I'm sure I could spar with a woman, but only with light contact.
Kudos to the gentleman for not taking it easy and for also popping the women in the face a few times. Keep your hands up !!! Kudos to the women for "bringing it". Nice intensity. But really guys, CARDIO !!!! 30 seconds in and your all breathing like you've ran a marathon.
i can tell you without a doubt he was taking it easey he was beang very nice i spent 11 years with grandmaster clingan and leyys was there for 10 of them untill i left. He is beang nice
Cont... as a weapon. Because the second someone started bouncing n throwing a bunch of kicks I would close the distance and start to take you out of your element, with elbows, palm strikes, punches, takedowns etc. Then what good would being 90% kicks be. That's the big difference with my fathers style if teaching Tang Soo Do. Will the techniques your learning benefit you on the streets. Don't get me wrong a proficent TKD guy would do great against an untrained attacker or at least they should...
@UGURKAZIM please take the time to read my other posts on here. This is not taekwondo at all. Not even a little bit. It is 100% Tang Soo Do. I'm sorry you've chosen a style which really only incorporates kick, I hope for you sake you are never really tested outside of your dojang. What good would your 90% kicks do for you if I took or neutralized your legs? Havent you ever asked yourself that. What would you do if you had an encounter with someone who's trained to use ever part of their body
@ugurkazim there is absolutely no taekwondo present here. It is 100% tang soo do. We use our whole body not just our kicks. He is simply testing them its not a matter of how he does it he's not testing, they are. I promise you he has a lot more tools in his game, he compiled a pro mma record of 3-2. Again no taekwondo is taught in our gym, our grandmaster (my dad) has been training in tang soo do since 1962 including several tours in korea.
My compliments to the lady, but i can't stand the guy. What kind of black belt spars with his hands down? It's almost as if he's saying "you're not good enough that i need to keep my hands up." I find it disrespectful, especially to a lower belt.
@ugurkazim how can he be a disgrace to taekwondo when this is not taekwondo. It's tang soo do, he only used a few techniques because he's far advanced for the girls level, his job here was to simply push them hard to bring out the best in their abilities
He calls him self a black belt, his a disgrace to taekwondo. Why he only use one leg ? is it becouse that's his good leg. TKD students use both always
@UGURKAZIM How can you even say that? While this isn't the best taekwondo (they're not "bouncing" enough, that's the most important thing i realized), he is not a disgrace. It is a black belt sparing against a red and tiger belt, why would he go all out on them? It is not his goal to win anyway, it is to keep it under control with them and make them work harder. Think before you talk.
@UGURKAZIM He's only using one leg because he doesn't need to use the other, from what I can see. And if one leg is working fine, why use both? I would think he's punching a lot to test her defense, but I'm not him. I think you're just analyzing it too much.. ;)
And 90% is a large amount, and I wouldn't agree with that. If I had to give it a percentage (which I don't see why it's so important), i would say 60% kicks, if not 50%. Like I said, you're overanalyzing. He's just testing the girl..
The technique is pretty sloppy, but black belt isn't the finishing line. What's really impressive is how hard these girls go. A credit to their club and worthy of black belt.
@senseikayne ACCORDING TO WHO? WORTHY MY ARSE. THEY HAVE TERRIBLE TECHNIQUE, SO WHAT IF THEY GO HARD, THEY AINT BLACK BELTS. THEY WOULD BE LAUGHED AT IN THE EAST.
i'm impressed, if i'm not mistaken this is a TKD school? well this was definitely the most realistic sparring i've seen from a TKD school in probably....ever. Good stuff :)
@strictlysanding arrogance? Ur crazy the ppl sitting at the table are the total opposite. Grandmaster Clingan has been doing thus for 53 years and is a very approachsble man.
our Grandmaster is a first gen american service man who helped co found wtsda, and trained n tested for 1st-4th dan in korea under hwang kee. he teaches just as they were taught in the 60's in korea
This is how we spar sorry if u dont approve, but its the way we do things.Its not for everyone but we love it. we are a high diciplined and respectful dojang. we also like to have a good time
@domro88 and u train under who? What fed? Don't talk to me about disrespect the watered down versions of most TSD feds make me sick, no where near what ppl like my dad endured in Korea, it was respect your master n anyone who beat your ass on the floor.
@brucejhously1 we'd love to have u. We have since moved from this location we are in yuba city on plumas st now. And to anyone asking about tkd I wouldn't b the one to ask as this is tang soo do. To those talking bout how sloppy these folks r, well look up some of their mma fights n ask there opponents how sloppy those ko punches felt.
@maofas that being said. I don't know him personally and was judging based solely on how he sparred for the 2 minutes of the video. I'm not trying to offend him or the school. Just an observation... Tang Soo!
@maofas I made no mention of the contact being my problem with this video. Its the way that black belt conducts himself in a testing environment with junior ranks. I'm aware that this is a contact "sport" as you call it (however it's not just a sport to me). However black belt means more that being able to punch a lady (or man) in the face a couple times. It's the ego that shown through that i was displeased with. The school's doing a huge disservice to everyone if that's how their leaders act.
@domro88 who are you to talk about our studio or disrespect when you have 50+ years trainng and teaching have founded one of the largest assos in ma history then come talk about what the grandmaster lets his senior belts do untill then you disrespect us all with your ignorance
@shepanddez Take it easy. If you'd actually read my comment you'd see I made one observation about 30 seconds worth of sparring. I disrespected no one, and made no mention of your organization or grandmaster, and anything else for that matter other than the sparring. You are the one who made it personal.
@shepanddez And i actually wrote a second comment after the first stating that i meant no disrespect and was not trying to be judgemental. I am a Sam Dan with 20 years of experience , So thats who i am ( to answer your sarcastic question). But again I meant no disrespect towards anyone in this video or your federation or your grandmaster but if you feel offended i apologize for that. But don't go throwing around words like ignorant like that. I never called names. Tang Soo!
@domro88 So this is you in the video? Ur pretty good. Yeah I am on ur side. People tend to try and find and state the negative in things in stead of the positive which was you helping them spar during their black belt test. But I can tell you do respect those women and that you were just simply sparring them :p
@maofas Sparring should be about control and technique not about "decent" contact with badly thrown fists. And most Important Martiat Arts are not sports.
I would love to spar with the black belt, slow, jabs are sloppy & he gets a little too cocky with females so lets see how good he is with someone that would beat the shit out of him!
@cankungdo1 i see what you are saying here but this man it better then you thak he is
iv ben a black belt for 20 yr now idn what you know but it would not be so ezzy to just beat the shit out of him you better be redy it all im saying and if you are not a black belt don't do it all he would kill yr ass
lol well he trains at grandmaster clingans in yuba city ca thay have a open door policy so if your ion town come in thay will let you on the matt make sure to bring a mouth guard your going to need it
That was pretty good sparring! What a pleasant surprise, most karate/korean karate sparring videos are awful, but some decent contact going on here. Both girls in the video need more work on their punching though. Without good hands it's very difficult to make someone give you the distance you need for your nice kicks.
SHE DID VERY WELL(RED BELT). HER TECHNIQUE AND BASICS WERE ON POINT AND SHE HAS SOME TENACITY. SHE DOES NOT SHOW DISCOURAGEMENT EVER WHEN SHE GOT STRUCK. FOOTWORK CAN BE TWEEKED AND SHARPENED. BUT SHE'S A RED BELT!!!! SHE'S NOT PERFECT. AND EVEN AT BLACK BELT YOU ARE ALWAYS GETTING BETTER AS YOU CONTINUE TRAINING. OSU!!!!
They are from the same school. They probably have had it at each other for a long time. She probably knows and trusts him to challenge her. And she probably already knew his skill level. I would doubt she felt any disrespect from it, but just a whooping from a talented opponent. With this footage she could go back to the drawing board and see how she can do better.
@domro88 It's a contact sport. The school would be doing a huge disservice to those women by putting a black belt around their waist without putting them (more or less) through the same rigors as the men.
Well, on the discussion about the blackbelt lowering his guard...
I am a brown belt karateka. When I sparr against people that NEVER attack or I can tell "fear" me, I sometimes drop my hands/change my guard etc to try to make them feel safe to attack. At gradings too, when I am ordered to sparr with a person grading. Why? Because it looks better for THEM if I help them take initiative! It looks bad if they never attack because they fear their opponent. I think this guy did the same.
We had a guy who had an arrogance problem like this guy in the video when we had testing at our school. Needless to say, that guy got the crap kicked out of him AND when it was his time to test he failed because of it.
Thought the ladies did a pretty good job. The fucker with the black belt needs to keep his hands up and be respectful of who he is sparring. If he sparred at our school like that he'd have been knocked out in less than ten seconds. Arrogant prick.
I LIKED YOUR FIGHTS ALOT. I THINK YOU NEED TO WORK ON STOP RUNNING RIGHT INTO BIG PEOPLE. YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE SIDE ALOT MORE. WHEN YOU MOVE TO THE SIDE, YOU CAN FIND ALOT OF ANGLES
@dangkoen he wasn't being disrespectful but having a little fun with her and testing get capabilities. Trust me if it became disrespectful he would've been dealt w accordingly
And to those asking what is the style in this video, our main focus is traditional tang soo do as taught to my dad, grandmaster William clingan by grandmaster hwang kee, jc shin, ki yun yi and cs Kim in Korea from 1961 thru the 1970's and the us after they relocated. We also teach hapkido taught to gm
Has aided them in becoming successful pro mma fighters, including the female in this video and the 2nd Dan who drops his hands, I assure you the opponents he's koed and submitted will tell u hes defineatly capable of more than is shown on this video. Our address is 531 14th st marysville ca 95901. Come on by. Traditional tang soo do or mma rules its up to you, we can teach you with respect or put u to sleep w hands up or down and smile while were doing it
@clinganc wow im form the han-mi tae kwon do in marysville ca 95901 now i know who you are lol man you got a good studio there once i get my 3d black belt i want to have training in a new martial art so ill be comeing there if you well have me ty
To those thinkin the guy dropping his hands is being disrespectful grow up, we Di train hard but we also like to have fun doing it, n please save the history lessons as our grandmaster has been training in this art for 56 years so save your letters for something else, constructive criticism is defineatly always welcome but everything else is a waste to read. Ne keyboards warriors wanna challenge we have an open door policy cone on by or check some of our students mma fights out as this training
i didn't know you were allowed to film black belt tests....where i go they're kinda private. did you film with special permission or is anyone allowed to film there or what? nice sparring, btw. try to keep on your toes more; it helps you move quicker.
I don't want to soundrude ( this was amazing) but I've self taught myself or about a year now, and I can do scissor kicks and fancy foot work to dodge and plenty of fancy attacks, an I've been teaching my 9 year old brother, and he can do most of what I can do, but I'm guessing if u r blackbelts then u must be holding back or something
Good job, and keep working hard. And most of all, dont listen to most of the asshats on the net. Posting BS is the closest theyve ever gotten to physical combat.
@luc500500 My favorite kick...I can do it 'airborne' (not really 'airborn'e you land your rear non-kicking leg just before impact) with enough power to give someone some air and send them flying backward if I catch them square on. Did it in 2003 at the Kukkiwon with a 6ft 6 guy! It's called Dwit Chagi or back kick - and it's DAMN powerful.
I commend you for all you did to make it to that day. The big black belt is doing the right thing, pushing you and not trying to knock you out. He understands the size and experience factor and sparring you accordingly. Its a test and sparring is one part. Congrats we all have improvements to make, but enjoy your triumph
I commend you for all you did to make it to that day. The big black belt is doing the right thing, pushing you and not trying to knock you out. He understands the size and experience factor and sparring you accordingly. Its a test and sparring is one part. Congrats
You looked good there, fightgirl. However, you should start throwing those strikes with the intention to hurt and putting your bodyweight behind them. Right now you are not even hard for your opponent to play with. If you are ok with that, don't change anything about how you fight.
Good job ladies. He pushed you, after all it was for your Black Belt. You didn't back down and kept coming back. I'm sure the blows were not full force and he was letting you know where you left yourselves open. Nice video.
did you get your belt he seemed realy tough and you got some good hit on him but when he pumelled your face was it with full force? because your realy hard!
@jonieestone yes that's exactly the reason ge dropped his hands like that, n no the only patches on our doh banks are our school patch over our heart the Korean n us flag on our arms n the other patch is our black belt patch
youtube arguements are hilarious. The guy most probably dropped his hands in order to encourage a more aggressive attack, allowing the grading to be easier to judge. Also, are the two standing black belts wearing Wado Ryu badges too?
1 fightgirl good job it was a good test although i think the black belt you were sparring against. was using too much force and he was punching strong punches on the face. and he should have control his power and do ligth touch at the end of the day a true black belt knows that as long as you point in the right target that's all it matter and he would have allow the 2 of you show more technique and i would've been better. on behalf of the 2 gurls i can say great job.
@ceddagr8 great advice, it is hard to hold your tongue on sum things tho. Like I've said before those ppl that want to critidize we have an open door policy come by n put your techniques to the test. They r all good martial artist and r only getting better.
Keep your guard up! Obvious, yes, but easy to forget, especially if you are tired.
Change up your attacks. It looked like you were just punching to the same spot. Change elevation, and use different strikes. Try to make up some combos that you can use.
I would also say to add some kicks, you seemed to be pretty good at kicking, and they are good to close in distance, ect.
@bobrawksbaby n looking at ur profile it seems u just talk shit to everyone. Ur in longbeach? Ur in luck I'm gonna be in the area next month I can bring the ppl on this vid w me lemme know where u train
But come on in marysville ca. Let us know who u r sign the releae form n bring a pillow cause u will be going to sleep. Gives traditional arts a bad name? Please our instructor n class is one of the oldest and most respected in nor cal.
@Bobrawksbaby I would love to c u come in thinkn u would punch any of them in the face, u would get ur ass beat. U think they would drop there hands in a real fight or sparring sumone they don't know.
shes not useing her martial art she is "boxing"
TheTimeOfYourLifez 2 days ago
@houseoflightkarate but the goal is not for him to total beat the hell out of them. His skill level is far beyond theirs. They need to be pushed quite hard but also allowed to display a but of offense. Regardless of how tough they r, their still females.
clinganc 6 days ago
I think its crap that the opponent was asked to lighten up because she was testing. The goal of the opponents in my shodan test was to try their hardest to make me give up. By that point your instructor should know you cam fight. It becomes about how much you can take and continue to take to become part of the elite.
houseoflightkarate 6 days ago
A black belt test is a black belt test. it was tough to watch, but at least their getting good training.
TheCandyMan01 1 week ago
The guys obviously holding back alot but it does come off as being cocky. If it were my black belt test id want the instructor to show effort on me but with seriousness, i mean cmon its a black belt test.
bobw72 1 week ago
@kenpoman1975 good thing were not a mcdojo or a tae kwon do dojang. Tang Soo Do.
clinganc 1 week ago
so size does matter,a lot.
borobei 1 week ago
I will have to say Although I dont like Take My Do schools the good thing that they are doing is leting there students feel some pain in a fight. If some of you think this guy was hitting her to hard or not respecting that she is a women, you are wrong. If you dont know how it feels to get hit what will happen when she has to defend her self for real? You need to feel it before you can learn how to defend aganist it. I feel sorry for those who dont train hands on.
kenpoman1975 1 week ago
where is that round house kick? girl forgot to admit she got slapped around allot
900one 2 weeks ago
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I would never hit a woman, not even sparring... It doesn't feel right...
gusimoes 2 weeks ago
I would never hit a woman, not even sparring... It doesn't feel right...
gusimoes 2 weeks ago
unfair matchup. that dude clearly knows he can win, but surely shows disrespect by hitting her in the face. I'm a blackbelt as well, but definitely now how to you treat lower belts.
kuyaGEN 2 weeks ago 4
I disgree. If I posted a video of me sparring my instructor you would probably comment the same thing. But I love my instructor and he's a great guy who I know loves to have fun. As you can see they bow showing respect. That's what we do. We spar and whatever happens during sparring doesn't matter as it's all good. That's why you see MMA guys hugging and congratulating even if they talk dirty and do this type of stuff during the fight.
Fouge642 2 weeks ago
@kuyaGEN understandable but its a blackbelt test + he was called up to spar here so she'd have a challenge...the other girl did ok but she needed someone who could show her how a blackbelt should spar...i think she did good i think there was a little bit to much punching but they all did good
midknightforever 1 week ago
tang soo do is the same as taekwondo?
jarrettautry 3 weeks ago
wow.. much respect for the higher ranks but i wanna see him do that to me T_ T .. that was not control and pretty disrespectful even tho she is a lower rank
ChineseOliveGarden00 3 weeks ago
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ChineseOliveGarden00 3 weeks ago
I don't think this is bad at all. so what he drops his hands, if he had needed to raise his hands, he would have. the women didn't have much in the way of a sense of range. in other words, they couldn't close the distance. but that is understandable for people of their rank.
good job to the women for hanging in there.
did they pass their exam?
shoulung 3 weeks ago
@shoulung
woops, I just realized that was you in the video. did YOU and courtney pass the exam?
shoulung 3 weeks ago
@llaallaa7712 well its a good thing nobody in our school cares what you think.
clinganc 3 weeks ago
i think the young man in this video is very disrespectful to his partner. dropping his hands and letting her know haha u cant touch me. is wrong and he is a disgrace to your school.
llaallaa7712 3 weeks ago
Yah I mean if you're gonna be involved in a black belt test you could at least look as though you were really sparring seriously, and if thats how he spars when he's serious i'm seriously sorry for him.
TheB907 1 month ago
How'd ol' hands down sloppy 1st dan get involved. What a joke.
TheB907 1 month ago
i find the fact that the black belt didnt use the entire left side of his body, slightly insulting
cherrypnda 1 month ago
You can give any opinion you like, I don't know what base you have to call them inexperienced, there's 24 years exp between just the two girls testing. I'll feel bad for you if everything you do in ma is run Luke a bootcamp. The grandmaster was making a joke to his granddaughter. Our chain of command, dicipline and respect are thoroughly enforced thru our trainings. Where and whom do you train with, again I ask what experience do u have with tsd, or sbd. With whom have you trained with or met.
clinganc 1 month ago
Opinion about the great hwang kee will be different. N don't try n classify my dad in a manner that disrespevrs TSD, he's a life long practicioner Dan #5845 under the mdk and hwang kee and helped co found world tang soo do association with his master jc shin. What experience or history exactly do u have with the moo duk kwan, tang soo do or soo bahk do to throw an off the wall opinion about a 9th Dan 1st gen practicioner?
clinganc 1 month ago
@clinganc There is something else to understand in martial arts that can only come with time and experience.
That being said, I'm also sad to see that I can't give my opinion because this guy is a 9th dan practioner. Do people have to shut up because they don't agree with their government? I'm a strong believer that discipline and respect are inherent in martial arts. That's not what I see in this video.
Blouhwtf 1 month ago
@blougwtf so your saying this is a useless fed giving other feds a bad name? If you can't have a good time doing something then why do it. And the point of humor came from the board creating humor. I'd love to come train in your sbd class, sbd is the biggest sellout commercial Korean art I've seen, there's nothing pure about it and everything hwang kee and HC hwang have ever tried to day regarding its lineage is bs. I highly recommend reading a book by a TSD bb name john hancock n maybe your...
clinganc 1 month ago
@clinganc I'll try to be honest here:
- I think that some martial arts federations, including SBD/TSD' one, are not doing their jobs by not imposing enough discipline, rules and legitimate hierarchy inside their organisation.
- I think that they do that on purpose, making it easier to make their art more popular.
- I think they miss the point of martial arts giving black belts to many inexperienced fighters, I mean inexperienced, not necessarily unskilled.
Blouhwtf 1 month ago
Talking about that guy's behaviour is a one thing, but toying and laughing at a black belt exam? How serious is that?
I've seen some unskilled 12 years old boys having soo bahk do black belts. When I can understand the legitimacy of such a martial art, I definitely hate these useless federations caring more about popularity by giving black belts to anybody that has 2 years of poor training, than the values of their art.
At the end, this is just disrespectful to other martial arts in general.
Blouhwtf 1 month ago
Injustice by never pushing the limits with some sort of contact. Some may not agree but based on my dads 50+ year career his students have excelled based on our training methods.
clinganc 1 month ago
We do understand this type of contact is for everyone, however we do not believe in conforming to everyone else's preferences or creating a false sense of security or skill level especially to our bb, I've seen first hand martial artists who have never sparred semi or full contact get hurt on the streets. If all you do is light contact and one steps that's all your body would know in a real situation and considering majority of ppl take class for self defense, you'd be doing them a great...
clinganc 1 month ago
@0x12d3 some women in our gym defineatly aren't comfortable sparring like this, these two however are. The girl w pink gloves is my niece and the grandmasters granddaughter, this is how we've trained our whole lives, the second has been with us for 8 or so years and was at the time of this vid an amateur mma fighter, now pro mma fighter. Nobody forced them into this but this is how we spar, this is probly 70% contact as we do on sum occasions go lighter or harder. Keep in mind its also a bb test
clinganc 1 month ago
Wow. I knew what I was about to see. This girl certainly knew what she signed up for, and I'm glad she'd doing what she enjoys, but this definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I train along side females as well, none of them are on a level where they spar yet, but to each his own, I'm sure I could spar with a woman, but only with light contact.
0x12d3 1 month ago
Kudos to the gentleman for not taking it easy and for also popping the women in the face a few times. Keep your hands up !!! Kudos to the women for "bringing it". Nice intensity. But really guys, CARDIO !!!! 30 seconds in and your all breathing like you've ran a marathon.
101AVERAGEJOE 1 month ago
i can tell you without a doubt he was taking it easey he was beang very nice i spent 11 years with grandmaster clingan and leyys was there for 10 of them untill i left. He is beang nice
shepanddez 1 month ago
Humiliation!
RaphaelTheArc 1 month ago
But what happens against a trained attacker.
clinganc 1 month ago
Cont... as a weapon. Because the second someone started bouncing n throwing a bunch of kicks I would close the distance and start to take you out of your element, with elbows, palm strikes, punches, takedowns etc. Then what good would being 90% kicks be. That's the big difference with my fathers style if teaching Tang Soo Do. Will the techniques your learning benefit you on the streets. Don't get me wrong a proficent TKD guy would do great against an untrained attacker or at least they should...
clinganc 1 month ago
@UGURKAZIM please take the time to read my other posts on here. This is not taekwondo at all. Not even a little bit. It is 100% Tang Soo Do. I'm sorry you've chosen a style which really only incorporates kick, I hope for you sake you are never really tested outside of your dojang. What good would your 90% kicks do for you if I took or neutralized your legs? Havent you ever asked yourself that. What would you do if you had an encounter with someone who's trained to use ever part of their body
clinganc 1 month ago
@ugurkazim there is absolutely no taekwondo present here. It is 100% tang soo do. We use our whole body not just our kicks. He is simply testing them its not a matter of how he does it he's not testing, they are. I promise you he has a lot more tools in his game, he compiled a pro mma record of 3-2. Again no taekwondo is taught in our gym, our grandmaster (my dad) has been training in tang soo do since 1962 including several tours in korea.
clinganc 1 month ago
My compliments to the lady, but i can't stand the guy. What kind of black belt spars with his hands down? It's almost as if he's saying "you're not good enough that i need to keep my hands up." I find it disrespectful, especially to a lower belt.
Mattfu77 1 month ago
is this WTF?
kenseisato1989 1 month ago
the guy pretty much was toying with her lol
dogstripper 1 month ago
those two girls are tough enough.
CoinDetective 1 month ago
@ugurkazim how can he be a disgrace to taekwondo when this is not taekwondo. It's tang soo do, he only used a few techniques because he's far advanced for the girls level, his job here was to simply push them hard to bring out the best in their abilities
clinganc 1 month ago
He calls him self a black belt, his a disgrace to taekwondo. Why he only use one leg ? is it becouse that's his good leg. TKD students use both always
UGURKAZIM 1 month ago
@UGURKAZIM How can you even say that? While this isn't the best taekwondo (they're not "bouncing" enough, that's the most important thing i realized), he is not a disgrace. It is a black belt sparing against a red and tiger belt, why would he go all out on them? It is not his goal to win anyway, it is to keep it under control with them and make them work harder. Think before you talk.
Source(s): I'm a black belt in Taekwondo
Bl4cKxCr0Ss 1 month ago
@UGURKAZIM It's also not even Taekwondo, it's more of Tang Soo Do if I'm not mistaken.. Though it looks like Taekwondo is also there.
Bl4cKxCr0Ss 1 month ago
@Bl4cKxCr0Ss HEY I didnt say for him to win, I'm asking you why his only using one leg
and why does he punch alot to the head when taekwondo is about kicks 90%.
UGURKAZIM 1 month ago
@UGURKAZIM He's only using one leg because he doesn't need to use the other, from what I can see. And if one leg is working fine, why use both? I would think he's punching a lot to test her defense, but I'm not him. I think you're just analyzing it too much.. ;)
And 90% is a large amount, and I wouldn't agree with that. If I had to give it a percentage (which I don't see why it's so important), i would say 60% kicks, if not 50%. Like I said, you're overanalyzing. He's just testing the girl..
Bl4cKxCr0Ss 1 month ago
@UGURKAZIM learn your history tsd does not use tkd. Tkd is a offshoot of tsd at least tkd moodukkwan and yes tsd was here first
shepanddez 1 month ago
@bulwine you would be with what association. We've been all over the east n have yet to be laughed at.
clinganc 1 month ago
The technique is pretty sloppy, but black belt isn't the finishing line. What's really impressive is how hard these girls go. A credit to their club and worthy of black belt.
senseikayne 1 month ago
@senseikayne ACCORDING TO WHO? WORTHY MY ARSE. THEY HAVE TERRIBLE TECHNIQUE, SO WHAT IF THEY GO HARD, THEY AINT BLACK BELTS. THEY WOULD BE LAUGHED AT IN THE EAST.
bulwine 1 month ago
@bulwine How many black belts have you awarded in the east?
senseikayne 1 month ago
i'm impressed, if i'm not mistaken this is a TKD school? well this was definitely the most realistic sparring i've seen from a TKD school in probably....ever. Good stuff :)
bloodriotiori 2 months ago
@bloodriotiori This is tang soo do, not tae kwon do.
barrettokarate 2 months ago
@barrettokarate ah, well regardless it's still good :)
bloodriotiori 2 months ago
there was only the black belt that had control the others just had spaghetti arms
dbzmaster1011 2 months ago
lol hit a girl xD
Awsomeace123 2 months ago
that guys is gud!
rusSyeeee 2 months ago
thats a funny looking kitchen!
CooperTrooped 2 months ago
@CooperTrooped LMFAO MLIB
rusSyeeee 2 months ago
thank you much for posting
Ozcomz 2 months ago
@strictlysanding arrogance? Ur crazy the ppl sitting at the table are the total opposite. Grandmaster Clingan has been doing thus for 53 years and is a very approachsble man.
clinganc 2 months ago
@solacepiano n which one would courtney be
clinganc 2 months ago
Lol, Cortney sucks, but the other chick owns!
SolacePiano 2 months ago
our Grandmaster is a first gen american service man who helped co found wtsda, and trained n tested for 1st-4th dan in korea under hwang kee. he teaches just as they were taught in the 60's in korea
clinganc 2 months ago
This is how we spar sorry if u dont approve, but its the way we do things.Its not for everyone but we love it. we are a high diciplined and respectful dojang. we also like to have a good time
clinganc 2 months ago
@domro88 and u train under who? What fed? Don't talk to me about disrespect the watered down versions of most TSD feds make me sick, no where near what ppl like my dad endured in Korea, it was respect your master n anyone who beat your ass on the floor.
clinganc 2 months ago
@dudleydoglucifer yes this is TSD under gm William clingan 1st generation American practioner under hwang kee and jc shin. Dan #5845
clinganc 2 months ago
@brucejhousley
clinganc 2 months ago
@brucejhously1 we'd love to have u. We have since moved from this location we are in yuba city on plumas st now. And to anyone asking about tkd I wouldn't b the one to ask as this is tang soo do. To those talking bout how sloppy these folks r, well look up some of their mma fights n ask there opponents how sloppy those ko punches felt.
clinganc 2 months ago
Good work keep it up
alexit123 2 months ago
Their punches almost have 0 technique.
iTziiMuNeZz 2 months ago
Is this Tang Soo Do?
dudleydoglucifer 2 months ago
@maofas that being said. I don't know him personally and was judging based solely on how he sparred for the 2 minutes of the video. I'm not trying to offend him or the school. Just an observation... Tang Soo!
domro88 3 months ago
@maofas I made no mention of the contact being my problem with this video. Its the way that black belt conducts himself in a testing environment with junior ranks. I'm aware that this is a contact "sport" as you call it (however it's not just a sport to me). However black belt means more that being able to punch a lady (or man) in the face a couple times. It's the ego that shown through that i was displeased with. The school's doing a huge disservice to everyone if that's how their leaders act.
domro88 3 months ago
@domro88 who are you to talk about our studio or disrespect when you have 50+ years trainng and teaching have founded one of the largest assos in ma history then come talk about what the grandmaster lets his senior belts do untill then you disrespect us all with your ignorance
shepanddez 1 month ago
@shepanddez Take it easy. If you'd actually read my comment you'd see I made one observation about 30 seconds worth of sparring. I disrespected no one, and made no mention of your organization or grandmaster, and anything else for that matter other than the sparring. You are the one who made it personal.
domro88 4 weeks ago
@shepanddez And i actually wrote a second comment after the first stating that i meant no disrespect and was not trying to be judgemental. I am a Sam Dan with 20 years of experience , So thats who i am ( to answer your sarcastic question). But again I meant no disrespect towards anyone in this video or your federation or your grandmaster but if you feel offended i apologize for that. But don't go throwing around words like ignorant like that. I never called names. Tang Soo!
domro88 4 weeks ago
@domro88 So this is you in the video? Ur pretty good. Yeah I am on ur side. People tend to try and find and state the negative in things in stead of the positive which was you helping them spar during their black belt test. But I can tell you do respect those women and that you were just simply sparring them :p
Fouge642 2 weeks ago
@maofas Sparring should be about control and technique not about "decent" contact with badly thrown fists. And most Important Martiat Arts are not sports.
circacheese 3 months ago 2
I would love to spar with the black belt, slow, jabs are sloppy & he gets a little too cocky with females so lets see how good he is with someone that would beat the shit out of him!
cankungdo1 3 months ago 5
@cankungdo1 i see what you are saying here but this man it better then you thak he is
iv ben a black belt for 20 yr now idn what you know but it would not be so ezzy to just beat the shit out of him you better be redy it all im saying and if you are not a black belt don't do it all he would kill yr ass
brucejhousley1 2 months ago
@brucejhousley1 most of the time i talk shit on tkd vids but that guy actualy looked pretty good. he had good reactions and used head movement
0114770 2 months ago
lol well he trains at grandmaster clingans in yuba city ca thay have a open door policy so if your ion town come in thay will let you on the matt make sure to bring a mouth guard your going to need it
shepanddez 1 month ago
That was pretty good sparring! What a pleasant surprise, most karate/korean karate sparring videos are awful, but some decent contact going on here. Both girls in the video need more work on their punching though. Without good hands it's very difficult to make someone give you the distance you need for your nice kicks.
maofas 3 months ago
SHE DID VERY WELL(RED BELT). HER TECHNIQUE AND BASICS WERE ON POINT AND SHE HAS SOME TENACITY. SHE DOES NOT SHOW DISCOURAGEMENT EVER WHEN SHE GOT STRUCK. FOOTWORK CAN BE TWEEKED AND SHARPENED. BUT SHE'S A RED BELT!!!! SHE'S NOT PERFECT. AND EVEN AT BLACK BELT YOU ARE ALWAYS GETTING BETTER AS YOU CONTINUE TRAINING. OSU!!!!
PUMAKenpo 3 months ago
They are from the same school. They probably have had it at each other for a long time. She probably knows and trusts him to challenge her. And she probably already knew his skill level. I would doubt she felt any disrespect from it, but just a whooping from a talented opponent. With this footage she could go back to the drawing board and see how she can do better.
PUMAKenpo 3 months ago
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domro88 3 months ago
@domro88 It's a contact sport. The school would be doing a huge disservice to those women by putting a black belt around their waist without putting them (more or less) through the same rigors as the men.
maofas 3 months ago
The black belt dude has his timing down right
rentz46 3 months ago
Im totally impressed once again at the manny virtues of the downward block, I would not want that lady kicking my floatings ibbs into my shoulders.
And at 10 seconds into the vid the pink glove girl totally blasts the other girl in the boob.
selfdefensepath 3 months ago
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selfdefensepath 3 months ago
Red belt girl in the without the chest protecter was showing good technique. She was good.
k9m42 3 months ago
omg i just tested for my green belt a few days ago and my mster told me that he helped to make the art of tangsoo do!
cheesenoodle65 3 months ago
@cheesenoodle65 Who's your Tang Soo Do master?
TheDaDrumma 3 months ago
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WorldChampionCenter 3 months ago
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WorldChampionCenter 4 months ago
@WorldChampionCenter yeah you def right about that, notice how the fighters actually keep their hands up...
sharkfinnigan 3 months ago
i have a question?what the fuck is that? this is not taekwondo !!1
TheLastMaster69 4 months ago
sexy
Escortguy1 4 months ago
Wtf is that? That's not real taekwondo.
elminsster80 4 months ago
Hi, can I ask what is Mr Wasson's 1st name?
pogi0311 4 months ago
Arrogant "Mr blackbelt" is so awesome that he can beat on a girl then imagine what he could do facing of against a "man"!
and My Sensei never sat down at a desk at not one of my gradings. Arrogance !
Strictlysanding 4 months ago
Well, on the discussion about the blackbelt lowering his guard...
I am a brown belt karateka. When I sparr against people that NEVER attack or I can tell "fear" me, I sometimes drop my hands/change my guard etc to try to make them feel safe to attack. At gradings too, when I am ordered to sparr with a person grading. Why? Because it looks better for THEM if I help them take initiative! It looks bad if they never attack because they fear their opponent. I think this guy did the same.
Ruben1994OL 6 months ago
@Ruben1994OL If they are afraid then they shouldnt earn a black belt. So making things easy for someone is stupid.
MaharlikaAWA 4 months ago
We had a guy who had an arrogance problem like this guy in the video when we had testing at our school. Needless to say, that guy got the crap kicked out of him AND when it was his time to test he failed because of it.
SOCOMSoldier01 6 months ago
Thought the ladies did a pretty good job. The fucker with the black belt needs to keep his hands up and be respectful of who he is sparring. If he sparred at our school like that he'd have been knocked out in less than ten seconds. Arrogant prick.
SOCOMSoldier01 6 months ago
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brucejhousley1 2 months ago
Good spirited effort. I'm a lowly 7th gup.
zoidberg5001 6 months ago
I LIKED YOUR FIGHTS ALOT. I THINK YOU NEED TO WORK ON STOP RUNNING RIGHT INTO BIG PEOPLE. YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE SIDE ALOT MORE. WHEN YOU MOVE TO THE SIDE, YOU CAN FIND ALOT OF ANGLES
Aishatu11 7 months ago
I LIKED YOUR FIGHTS ALOT. I THINK YOU NEED TO WORK ON STOP RUNNING RIGHT INTO THE BLACK BELT. YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE SIDE ALOT MORE
Aishatu11 7 months ago
This was some good sparring. Nice to see a red belt with good speed, technique and power. Thanks for sharing!
gseasley2 7 months ago
you habanerhero really are a lame.
1fightgirl 7 months ago
@dangkoen he wasn't being disrespectful but having a little fun with her and testing get capabilities. Trust me if it became disrespectful he would've been dealt w accordingly
clinganc 8 months ago
That blackbelt was being very disrespectful, the instructor should have had a word with him.
dangkoen 8 months ago
That blackbelt was very disrespectful. As an instructor I'd have a word with him, that attitude doesn't belong in a martial arts class.
dangkoen 8 months ago 3
hahaha i lol'd at 1:37....
schnisha95 8 months ago
And to those asking what is the style in this video, our main focus is traditional tang soo do as taught to my dad, grandmaster William clingan by grandmaster hwang kee, jc shin, ki yun yi and cs Kim in Korea from 1961 thru the 1970's and the us after they relocated. We also teach hapkido taught to gm
clinganc 9 months ago
Has aided them in becoming successful pro mma fighters, including the female in this video and the 2nd Dan who drops his hands, I assure you the opponents he's koed and submitted will tell u hes defineatly capable of more than is shown on this video. Our address is 531 14th st marysville ca 95901. Come on by. Traditional tang soo do or mma rules its up to you, we can teach you with respect or put u to sleep w hands up or down and smile while were doing it
clinganc 9 months ago
@clinganc wow im form the han-mi tae kwon do in marysville ca 95901 now i know who you are lol man you got a good studio there once i get my 3d black belt i want to have training in a new martial art so ill be comeing there if you well have me ty
brucejhousley1 2 months ago
To those thinkin the guy dropping his hands is being disrespectful grow up, we Di train hard but we also like to have fun doing it, n please save the history lessons as our grandmaster has been training in this art for 56 years so save your letters for something else, constructive criticism is defineatly always welcome but everything else is a waste to read. Ne keyboards warriors wanna challenge we have an open door policy cone on by or check some of our students mma fights out as this training
clinganc 9 months ago
@805dizzle come on by our gym any of our guys or girls will gladly spar u. Just practice falling down.
clinganc 9 months ago
i beat all of your guys asses no matter wat rank
torresanthony13 10 months ago
@torresanthony13 Typical armchair assassin. Grow up
SexyParty154 10 months ago
what Korean martial art is this?
alve1198 10 months ago
@alve1198 taekwondo
schnisha95 8 months ago
@schnisha95 damn really, wow what is the federation or league?
alve1198 8 months ago
@alve1198 idk, but WTF (i know, funny name huh) is the world taekwondo federation.... i dunno anything else though....
schnisha95 8 months ago
@schnisha95 lol i have been doing ITF and WTF for a long time. I have never seen people allowed to hit like that or clinch like that.
alve1198 8 months ago
i didn't know you were allowed to film black belt tests....where i go they're kinda private. did you film with special permission or is anyone allowed to film there or what? nice sparring, btw. try to keep on your toes more; it helps you move quicker.
SuperSeaCucumber 11 months ago
I don't want to soundrude ( this was amazing) but I've self taught myself or about a year now, and I can do scissor kicks and fancy foot work to dodge and plenty of fancy attacks, an I've been teaching my 9 year old brother, and he can do most of what I can do, but I'm guessing if u r blackbelts then u must be holding back or something
miklegarth 11 months ago
Not bad..
Karateforlife777 1 year ago
LAME LAME LAME screw that guy thats sparring with the girls, ill pop u right in your face since u have ur hands down.
805dizzle 1 year ago
I want to spar with the 2nd guy that comes up to spar......What a big bully pick on a guy lol you spar like shit!!!
805dizzle 1 year ago
great Job! keep it up!
amoswiebe18 1 year ago
Good job, and keep working hard. And most of all, dont listen to most of the asshats on the net. Posting BS is the closest theyve ever gotten to physical combat.
patrickhenrysghost 1 year ago
in the description u say u nailed him but u no he wud kill u in a real fight
zeshybadboy 1 year ago
This guy is an asshole. He is leaving his hands down implying she could never reach up there.
AlexEADGBE 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
both of them suck, that is
BcuzIGotHigh420 1 year ago
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BcuzIGotHigh420 1 year ago
1:54!!!! Lol =P
ubtrolling 1 year ago
Whoa! That kick at 0:11 was AWESOME! I wanna learn to do that! lol
luc500500 1 year ago
@luc500500 My favorite kick...I can do it 'airborne' (not really 'airborn'e you land your rear non-kicking leg just before impact) with enough power to give someone some air and send them flying backward if I catch them square on. Did it in 2003 at the Kukkiwon with a 6ft 6 guy! It's called Dwit Chagi or back kick - and it's DAMN powerful.
ogicabp4u 1 year ago
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kingkshon73 1 year ago
I commend you for all you did to make it to that day. The big black belt is doing the right thing, pushing you and not trying to knock you out. He understands the size and experience factor and sparring you accordingly. Its a test and sparring is one part. Congrats we all have improvements to make, but enjoy your triumph
jvcdotnet 1 year ago
I commend you for all you did to make it to that day. The big black belt is doing the right thing, pushing you and not trying to knock you out. He understands the size and experience factor and sparring you accordingly. Its a test and sparring is one part. Congrats
jvcdotnet 1 year ago
@19foreverocker80 it is tang soo do taught by grandmaster William clingan he is a first generation American tsd practitioner.
clinganc 1 year ago
You looked good there, fightgirl. However, you should start throwing those strikes with the intention to hurt and putting your bodyweight behind them. Right now you are not even hard for your opponent to play with. If you are ok with that, don't change anything about how you fight.
Agtren 1 year ago
What style is this? In my style we use brown belts instead of red belts.
19foreverocker80 1 year ago
Good job ladies. He pushed you, after all it was for your Black Belt. You didn't back down and kept coming back. I'm sure the blows were not full force and he was letting you know where you left yourselves open. Nice video.
tessen58 1 year ago
did you get your belt he seemed realy tough and you got some good hit on him but when he pumelled your face was it with full force? because your realy hard!
fishsainia 1 year ago
whilst he was supposed to test the girls grading he showed a complete lack of respect the way he sparred with them. Did he think it was his show?
DunxMeister 1 year ago
First good sparring video I've seen in a while, here on Youtube. Good job. Keep up the good work.
Monarch3436 1 year ago
@jonieestone yes that's exactly the reason ge dropped his hands like that, n no the only patches on our doh banks are our school patch over our heart the Korean n us flag on our arms n the other patch is our black belt patch
clinganc 1 year ago
Awesome job, I imagine your black belts are well earned!
freespadersuggs 1 year ago
Jal Ha So!
freespadersuggs 1 year ago
youtube arguements are hilarious. The guy most probably dropped his hands in order to encourage a more aggressive attack, allowing the grading to be easier to judge. Also, are the two standing black belts wearing Wado Ryu badges too?
jonleestone 1 year ago
damn that looked like hard work well done :)
mccboris1 1 year ago
1 fightgirl good job it was a good test although i think the black belt you were sparring against. was using too much force and he was punching strong punches on the face. and he should have control his power and do ligth touch at the end of the day a true black belt knows that as long as you point in the right target that's all it matter and he would have allow the 2 of you show more technique and i would've been better. on behalf of the 2 gurls i can say great job.
junioralamilla714 1 year ago
@junioralamilla714 I lol'd at that
AliBabaDosRios 1 year ago
@ceddagr8 great advice, it is hard to hold your tongue on sum things tho. Like I've said before those ppl that want to critidize we have an open door policy come by n put your techniques to the test. They r all good martial artist and r only getting better.
clinganc 1 year ago
Just some tips:
Keep your guard up! Obvious, yes, but easy to forget, especially if you are tired.
Change up your attacks. It looked like you were just punching to the same spot. Change elevation, and use different strikes. Try to make up some combos that you can use.
I would also say to add some kicks, you seemed to be pretty good at kicking, and they are good to close in distance, ect.
Anyway, i hope this helps! Good luck!
moviemaniac97 1 year ago
@bobrawksbaby n looking at ur profile it seems u just talk shit to everyone. Ur in longbeach? Ur in luck I'm gonna be in the area next month I can bring the ppl on this vid w me lemme know where u train
clinganc 1 year ago
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clinganc 1 year ago
But come on in marysville ca. Let us know who u r sign the releae form n bring a pillow cause u will be going to sleep. Gives traditional arts a bad name? Please our instructor n class is one of the oldest and most respected in nor cal.
clinganc 1 year ago
@Bobrawksbaby I would love to c u come in thinkn u would punch any of them in the face, u would get ur ass beat. U think they would drop there hands in a real fight or sparring sumone they don't know.
clinganc 1 year ago