@ArcheryWarlock then u ain't good enought, a warlock scould pwn a pala of any specc, that's the fuckup thing about palas, they suck against , mage ,warlock,hunter, rouge or shammys :(
Wtf you talking about have you ever played a shaman befor were still underpowered even on the beta atm i think newbs like aeon have been watching too much bre tbc wtf windfury power.
ret pallies = most op class in the game in xpac also ret pallies = hit in the mouth with the nerf stick after 2 weeks of release when blizz finally realizes that retaddins ARE REDICTULASLY OP!! OMFG 5k crits 3 times in a row = insta death or how a bout yeye i finally got him cc'd i can finally run awa... *pally bubbles* 3 shotted again!! XD
No class has comparable burst like that on live or in beta. ret pallies damage is just INSANE added with their survivability makes them extremely overpowered.
beta is always OP, they nerf everything before release, trust me, alot of shit on DK will be nerfed cause its OP, and alot of pallies shit will be to, and shammies.
Resto druids aren't unstoppable either. Double dps teams in 2's can pretty much take out any druid team if done right. Go Rogue/Rogue, and that druid will die in bear form.
Ret pally's don't need a nerf, their opponents need to lrn2pvp. All but one of Ret's abilities are 10yds or less. Get in that range and of course you're going to be toast. Just like when you get face to face with a Rogue, feral druid, and fury warrior.
Oh good, there's stupid here too. Freedom, 20 second HoJ and repentance make it very easy to stay on a target trying to kite. In fact I've found it easier to not get kited on my paladin then my rogue. Your argument is invalid.
Lrn2trinket And Repentence is on a one minute cooldown. Trinket out of repentence and stay on the move. Hunters have frost traps, Warriors can hamstring, Rogues have crippling poison, Frost mages have...EVERYTHING, Warlocks and Priests can chain fear, Druids have roots, Shamans have their version of frost trap. In fact none of that can be cleansed. And I believe only fear can be bubbled out of. So what was that about Rets being unkiteable?
Okay. I'll lrn2trinket a 20 second cooldown. Do you even play beta? It's next to impossible to get freedom off with all the stacking buffs and dispel resist. I haven't lost to any of those classes. Except a few amazing frost mages.
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If you stay out of 10 yds all you have to worry about is repentance. Which is on a ONE MINUTE COOLDOWN! Think of ret pallies as rogues without stealth. I've never heard this much crying over a rogue's ability to stun lock and then disembowel every other class. And they have more stuns on shorter cooldowns.
Except Rogues have leather, and cannot heal. They also have to build combo points. Rogues depend on stuns to stay alive and keep them from getting ripped due to low armor. You want to bring repentance into this? Here's a hint, it's the same effect as blind altogether. Except half it's cooldown. Go figure.
And other classes don't have interrupts for spells? I was sure mages had an ability to stop spells mid cast, priests could silence, and warriors and rogues have that kick move, oh hunters have those two stings...oh wait Blizz must have removed those, right?
What fucking point are you even trying to make? Other classes can interrupt? Right? Okay? What's your point? Your arguments are just getting stupid and you're clutching at straws.
My point is, Rets are now no different from Warriors, Rogues, and feral druids. Learn to beat rets just like people learned how to beat the other melees. No class is unstoppable. Well except for resto druids in arena...
You obviously haven't played beta. If you did you wouldn't be comparing warriors and rogues to ret paladins. They are probably in the bottom 4 bad PvP classes on beta right now, the only thing worse then them is a warlock.
"My point is, Rets are now no different from Warriors, Rogues, and feral druids."
They are completely different. None of those classes you stated can put out that burst damage. Maybe a Rogue in Assassination, but they can be easily kited due to the lack of ShS. It's now near impossible to get rid of freedom, and even if you do get to that point where they are low, they can bubble, heal and then gain all that mana back with divine storm. Let's not forget about that instant Hammer of GG now too.
This is all from a Mage perspective btw. I've been able to beat a few Ret pallies, due to incredibly lucky proc's imo. It wasn't a cake walk, and even still, some have literally run me over. "Just stay 10 yards away?" Good luck doing that with Pursuit of Justice and no downranking lvl 1 FB's.
Mages are good too, ret pallies are balanced out now ++ this guy is level 80 , Anyone else with the same cat gear as him could be just as good maybe beter .
Retardins are op, deal with it. They will get nerfed. Deal with that too. Go and roll something else since you clearly don't have the skills to play your paladin in top notch arena.
Are you retarded? I don't play a ret paladin outside of the test server, and if you took two seconds to read the rest of the comments you'd know I made the videos to get this ridiculous class fixed.
LoL. My investment in lvling a pally alt is paying off tenfold. I dont think ret is gona be nerfed badly, it's just rets turn to be pvp king, taking over the crown from shadowstep rogues in BC LoL. Theres always a class of the month/patch, and ret has been selected
yes ret palas are OP against most classes but any decent mage can kite them all day long
john19871 1 year ago
lol my lock is dead in 3 fucking seconds from a 69 pala, and i have fucking 8800 hp!
ArcheryWarlock 2 years ago
@ArcheryWarlock so? soon you'll be 80 and oneshot everything
wardancer400 2 years ago
i am 80 and this was posted 7 months before, there have been a lot of changes to the game and i have quit playing it
ArcheryWarlock 2 years ago
@ArcheryWarlock then u ain't good enought, a warlock scould pwn a pala of any specc, that's the fuckup thing about palas, they suck against , mage ,warlock,hunter, rouge or shammys :(
zartoxz 11 months ago
gz bug divine+wings but dps is low ;/
Orleanusek 2 years ago
I like how only garbage says that shamans are under powered lol.
razal900 2 years ago
weak
YourVideoSuckz 3 years ago
do you feel special?
Apoxiosis 3 years ago
hmm ..burstadins? :D
sidewaysfcs0718 3 years ago
i hope they balance out a bit at 80
rannyboxer 3 years ago
Burstadins<Retadins.
Shikamaru1212 3 years ago
shamans still underpowered but ret pallies OVERPOWERED!
BMXracer1023 3 years ago
Wtf you talking about have you ever played a shaman befor were still underpowered even on the beta atm i think newbs like aeon have been watching too much bre tbc wtf windfury power.
balmungkai 3 years ago
ret pallies = most op class in the game in xpac also ret pallies = hit in the mouth with the nerf stick after 2 weeks of release when blizz finally realizes that retaddins ARE REDICTULASLY OP!! OMFG 5k crits 3 times in a row = insta death or how a bout yeye i finally got him cc'd i can finally run awa... *pally bubbles* 3 shotted again!! XD
binty47 3 years ago
imo mages are op, letting out 4k crit with a dps spell, dosnt need any skill to kill a normal player, spam that spell and they die =/
im an ret pally, and i dont win "that" often to be OP
Glitym8 3 years ago
pally retry comes again! :D
Yreky 3 years ago
No class has comparable burst like that on live or in beta. ret pallies damage is just INSANE added with their survivability makes them extremely overpowered.
crackshot173 3 years ago 5
Ret. in Beta are retarded, hope blizzard nerf this bs soon.
vaju79 3 years ago
beta is always OP, they nerf everything before release, trust me, alot of shit on DK will be nerfed cause its OP, and alot of pallies shit will be to, and shammies.
Aeonation 3 years ago
shamans...? how are they OP at all lmao?
murfrules107 3 years ago
true...
extaziii 3 years ago
Resto druids aren't unstoppable either. Double dps teams in 2's can pretty much take out any druid team if done right. Go Rogue/Rogue, and that druid will die in bear form.
lolstfu1 3 years ago
Ret pally's don't need a nerf, their opponents need to lrn2pvp. All but one of Ret's abilities are 10yds or less. Get in that range and of course you're going to be toast. Just like when you get face to face with a Rogue, feral druid, and fury warrior.
If you kite a ret you can beat him.
Ashtari 3 years ago
Oh good, there's stupid here too. Freedom, 20 second HoJ and repentance make it very easy to stay on a target trying to kite. In fact I've found it easier to not get kited on my paladin then my rogue. Your argument is invalid.
Zongra 3 years ago
Lrn2trinket And Repentence is on a one minute cooldown. Trinket out of repentence and stay on the move. Hunters have frost traps, Warriors can hamstring, Rogues have crippling poison, Frost mages have...EVERYTHING, Warlocks and Priests can chain fear, Druids have roots, Shamans have their version of frost trap. In fact none of that can be cleansed. And I believe only fear can be bubbled out of. So what was that about Rets being unkiteable?
Ashtari 3 years ago
Okay. I'll lrn2trinket a 20 second cooldown. Do you even play beta? It's next to impossible to get freedom off with all the stacking buffs and dispel resist. I haven't lost to any of those classes. Except a few amazing frost mages.
Zongra 3 years ago
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If you stay out of 10 yds all you have to worry about is repentance. Which is on a ONE MINUTE COOLDOWN! Think of ret pallies as rogues without stealth. I've never heard this much crying over a rogue's ability to stun lock and then disembowel every other class. And they have more stuns on shorter cooldowns.
Ashtari 3 years ago
Except Rogues have leather, and cannot heal. They also have to build combo points. Rogues depend on stuns to stay alive and keep them from getting ripped due to low armor. You want to bring repentance into this? Here's a hint, it's the same effect as blind altogether. Except half it's cooldown. Go figure.
Zongra 3 years ago
And other classes don't have interrupts for spells? I was sure mages had an ability to stop spells mid cast, priests could silence, and warriors and rogues have that kick move, oh hunters have those two stings...oh wait Blizz must have removed those, right?
Ashtari 3 years ago
What fucking point are you even trying to make? Other classes can interrupt? Right? Okay? What's your point? Your arguments are just getting stupid and you're clutching at straws.
Zongra 3 years ago
My point is, Rets are now no different from Warriors, Rogues, and feral druids. Learn to beat rets just like people learned how to beat the other melees. No class is unstoppable. Well except for resto druids in arena...
Ashtari 3 years ago
You obviously haven't played beta. If you did you wouldn't be comparing warriors and rogues to ret paladins. They are probably in the bottom 4 bad PvP classes on beta right now, the only thing worse then them is a warlock.
Zongra 3 years ago
"My point is, Rets are now no different from Warriors, Rogues, and feral druids."
They are completely different. None of those classes you stated can put out that burst damage. Maybe a Rogue in Assassination, but they can be easily kited due to the lack of ShS. It's now near impossible to get rid of freedom, and even if you do get to that point where they are low, they can bubble, heal and then gain all that mana back with divine storm. Let's not forget about that instant Hammer of GG now too.
lolstfu1 3 years ago
This is all from a Mage perspective btw. I've been able to beat a few Ret pallies, due to incredibly lucky proc's imo. It wasn't a cake walk, and even still, some have literally run me over. "Just stay 10 yards away?" Good luck doing that with Pursuit of Justice and no downranking lvl 1 FB's.
lolstfu1 3 years ago
Mages are good too, ret pallies are balanced out now ++ this guy is level 80 , Anyone else with the same cat gear as him could be just as good maybe beter .
las4200 3 years ago
It's still overpowered. You should not have the ability to attack but just heal when you're bubbled.
salazarmark 3 years ago
Retardins are op, deal with it. They will get nerfed. Deal with that too. Go and roll something else since you clearly don't have the skills to play your paladin in top notch arena.
nastynor 3 years ago
/facepalm
Are you retarded? I don't play a ret paladin outside of the test server, and if you took two seconds to read the rest of the comments you'd know I made the videos to get this ridiculous class fixed.
Zongra 3 years ago
LoL. My investment in lvling a pally alt is paying off tenfold. I dont think ret is gona be nerfed badly, it's just rets turn to be pvp king, taking over the crown from shadowstep rogues in BC LoL. Theres always a class of the month/patch, and ret has been selected
shawoshawn 3 years ago
Good to know FOTM rerollers are already on the move.
Tergeron 3 years ago
wow we r gonan own in pvp if they dont nerf us WHICH THEY WILL but ye this will be nice
Cudeater313 3 years ago