9/11 was an inside job. No question, there needs to be a REAL investigation.
However, as someone who was riding in a truck over the brooklyn bridge, who watched the second plane fly into the building.....I can tell you with finality...you're wrong. And this video is the kind of thing that keeps people from taking any REAL theories seriously.
This is great news. Now all you need to do is tell the families of all the innocent people thought to have died in that plane crash. There families are going to be very excited about this news.
@clubinsky33 don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. these conspiracy nutjobs have no problem loudly voicing their crazy delusions, but they're not so good at considering the consequences.
Have you heard from or seen any of the victim's family members from these planes in the last 10 yrs? Say, on TV, a talk show, news program or even on the net, etc? Personally, I haven't seen one..
@muzicmaker2001 probably an incorrect observation, considering the fact that you don't like to look very hard for information that contradicts your own goofed-up beliefs.
No luck needed. Just check out the likes vs dislikes and majority of comments left here and on every page dedicated to this subject. Aluminum can penetrate steel? It only takes a brain.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
that's not the nose of the plane. it's a compressed explosion being blown out of the opposite end. the smoke is in the shape of a "nose" or torpedo because of its velocity its travelling it. it then dissipates into a cloud.
@jamespshort thats right, no single civillian airplane can go thru miles in just seconds like the video feed. obviously, there is "something" going on...
There are not thusands (or even hundreds) of videos of the 2nd plane. And can you post just 15 witnesses recorded live on 911 of the 2nd plane? Just ordinary folks with no connection to the media or government.
Planes DID hit BOTH towers. I was there. I WATCHED the 2nd plane hit the South Tower. Not a single "Truther" (talk about your oxymorons) was there -- period. If you were there, you would not be a "Truther."
This is super interesting, thanks for posting this. Makes sense to make that the "hjackers" were not actually suicide bombers but got paid off quite nicely. I'd like to know more about this if any new evidence sheds light
my friend and his employee stood on his south west facing balcony on the corner of West 14th street and 8th avenue. he watched the second plane fly into the south tower. he put down his video camera as he was confused by what the second plane was doing, He watched it hit the building. i guess he was in on it too.
Oh my god. Even this video looks may like a manipulation - what about all the other 50 videos showing the impact? And if you compare to other videos, you will see that there is something extruded from the tower very fast (maybe jet gear) and directly go into fire and smoke. this is what makes this video seem to be an manipulation.
but that does not say that the goverment was not involved into..
I'm having trouble finding just 15-20 witnesses recorded live on 911 with no connection to the media or government. There are more live witnesses on explosions all throughout the building.
@muzicmaker2001 So what happened to the people inside the planes that were hijacked? What happened to the United and american airlines million dollar property that just was destroyed? You have no answer for that
Yes, you are correct. I have no idea what happened to the passengers or if they even existed. But, how would know what happened to them? I only deal with the known evidence..like cartoon-looking plane images melting thru steel like butter.
@muzicmaker2001 You don't know if the passengers existed? There were passenger lists and security surveillance of people boarding those flights terrorist or not. There are so many families who are out there who lost their family that day, people who boarded those flights disappeared and died and were not in new york when they boarded those planes. If you don't believe that then you've lost all legitimacy.
@muzicmaker2001 You don't know if the passengers existed? There were passenger lists and security surveillance of people boarding those flights terrorist or not. There are so many families who are out there who lost their family that day, people who boarded those flights disappeared and died and were not in new york when they boarded those planes. If you don't believe that then you've lost all legitimacy.
Again, where are are the witnesses of the planes. And NONE of the wreckage has been officially verified as belonging to the registered flights. And all requests for the wreckage serial numbers and the process of identification of the wreckage have been denied. if the planes actually existed, why the mystery? It doesn't make sense.
Haha, I gotta admit, I almost fell for this, until I remembered all of the other videos of the plane hitting the towers and how it definately looked like a plane that was hitting the tower.
Also, that aint the plane's nose you idiot, its the explosion :L
@santran Infact, unfortunately my cousin was one of the passengers on the first plane, her name was Christine Barbuto, you can google her name. The "no plane theory" is offensive and disrespectful to the families that lost their loved ones on those planes. For the ones that believe the no plane theory what they don't know is that the towers where not made of solid steel, but hollow steel bars and only the floors where concrete. the plane probably bent the bars in with the speed power.
@MrSuperdrunk123 The same people who said the towers fell due to structual failure right there and then? They were pretty informed hey? Thank fuck these experts were on the streets and the news knew who did it within an hour. Please!
how do you explain the missing plane which was flight 11 and 175?? oh wait they werent missing, they were just used to kill close to 3000 people for their own fucked up needs. If you honestly think it was a missile that was launched into the south tower even as well as the north tower, you are a complete idiot. The plane may have been made by aluminum, but the other components of the plane plus the fact it was going close too 600 mph, could explain that it did that. now please, get a life dick.
what a moron.. enough said. people like you who believe or make up these crazy theories just want to sound intelligent and attention whores. fuckn idiots
A plane can go through, the same way that peice of foam punched a hole through the colombian space shuttle in 2005- and that been PROVEN. materials behave differently at very high speeds. Take a physics class.
I like to use other aluminum plane vs. hard surface examples instead of home made physics. The B25 bomber that hit the Empire State building. The majority of Flight 77 supposedly disintegrated when hitting the Pentagon. Or this example
@muzicmaker2001, home made physics? this was proven by NASA..... but im sure your more informed on this than they are.
and of course the disintegrated, but not before causing alot of damage, much of the "nose" in the video was not the plane itself but the blow of particles blasted in the impression of the plane.
So, you think its just a wild and rare coincidence that this "blow of particles blasted" matches the nose of the plane perfectly down to the last pixel?
Don't mind "MyLibelSuit", it's just Daryl Carstensen (aka TheCrimsonSkull, SunWestMovies) being the usual asshole that he is when confronted with the reality that he is a harasser, stalker and woman abuser.
Don't mind "MyLibelSuit", it's just Daryl Carstensen (aka TheCrimsonSkull, SunWestMovies) being the usual asshole that he is when confronted with the reality that he is a harasser, stalker and woman abuser.
@Konnerdad People like you make me SICK! WHY? all you ever seem to do is throw insults, and debunking claims at such things ( without ever logically or structurally ) providing any real rational, logical, and constructive counter claims dispelling or refuting what evidence has been placed forward!!! Go get educated !!!
@normski262 and people like you make me even SICKER. Why? because like witless drones you latch on an absurd theory and piss on the memory on those who were lost on this tragic day. Seriously you "No-Planers" make Alex Jones, Michael Moore and Glenn Beck seem sane and reasonable. Me get educated? Son, I have for more education than you feeble mind could ever obtain. If you call this bunch of hooey evidence, then I have bridge to sell you because you are the text book example of gulible.
This is more ignorance. Evaluating the evidence has nothing to do with disrespecting anyone. Actually, its the opposite. If I lost my life due to a lie, I hope that there would someone out there fighting for the truth and not just blindly believing everything that is told to them.
@muzicmaker2001Agreed, seeking the truth is not disrespectful. But dear lord, no planes hit the towers???????? Good hell man, that is insulting!!! You no planer idiots are as vile and offensive as holocaust deniers. It takes a special breed of buffoon to call this stinking pile of steaming horse crap "evidence". You know the type of utter moron that believes the government caused the tsunami in Japan with HAARP. I will pray that one day a brain may grow in the cavernous space you call skull.
I do not believe the no planes theory. I honestly beileve there WERE planes involved. Now, this does not mean that I believe every aspect of 9/11 the media tells me. I DO think that the CIA was in league with Osama for a while, and that he had their support. It's even possible that the CIA may have gotten actual planes (Replicas of the hijacked planes, most likely) and crashed them, while the hijacked planes were simply flown to some empty field, like the one that crashed in Pennsylvania.
Not reading through this all, but if there were no planes, why would the thousands of people below who saw it with their own eyes say there was a plane?? I don't believe for a second there wasn't some sort of Goverment involvement, but no planes? Come on!
I've seen all the footage, read all the reports and all the independent studies.
The world trade centre complex was a biomechanical holographonic direct data projection from the moon and an orbiting syzygy of four solid titanium photonic hyper-actualization satellites . There were no buildings. This is fact people!
Bravo. The bottom line is that the Entire Coporate Media Outlets were in on it.
This is an even more important discovery than it was a planned event. It was not only meticulously planned, but finely orchestrated as a purposeful, deliberate ruse. There can be no doubt about the intention of 9-11.
This feels very much like being cheated / conned by some one you trust more than anything in the world.
I watched the September Clues series on YouTube, and I have to admit, I think there is enough evidence here to bring charges of treason and terror against all of the network media that were involved in this, as well as members of our own government who were involved. This is some serious stuff. I cannot believe the government hasn't tried to censor it yet, to save their face.
@muzicmaker2001 Yeah, because the nuts will thumbs-down anything that doesn't agree with what they think. Honestly, going by the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio? Come on.
You have no knowledge of aviation other than living near an airport.LOL Now why don't you read what the dozens if not hundreds of MILITARY PILOTS,Intelligence agents & High Ranking Majors & GENERALS said of 911 & how the government bullshit conspiracy theories were flawed beyond belief.And how they were basically LIES by the Bush Administration & the Penta-con.
And the thing is, going through your page, I agree with most of your stand-points, and was agreeing with you here. Why the hell you started attacking me, or why the hell you can't hold a civilized conversation is beyond me. You would make a good theorist, and if that's your pic, a good martial artist...It's just a shame your so damn stupid. I don't know about you, but one of the first things MMA taught me was to pull my head out my ass, apparently you didn't get the memo.
@CivilandSimple You have no knowledge of aviation other than living near an airport.LOL Now why don't you read what the dozens if not hundreds of MILITARY PILOTS,Intelligence agents & High Ranking Majors & GENERALS said of 911 & how the government bullshit conspiracy theories were flawed beyond belief.And how they were basically LIES by the Bush Administration & the Penta-con.
patriotsquestion911 . com/
These are the people who WORK INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT,they know more than any of us.LEARN
On top of the fact you can't type for shit and I'm basically talking (typing) circles around you isn't working well for you either. So, if I'm stupid, what exactly does that make you? Because, at this point, I'm thinking retard is a little too lenient, by definition alone at least. Insult wise, I think it's a little too good for ya'.
I live very close to an air force base and an air port. Take it from somebody who sees and hears them everyday. You WILL hear a 747, it doesn't matter if it's a foot over your head or a hundred, you will hear it. Fighter Jets are relatively quiet, they can be heard, but not easily, they usually need to be seen first. You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed.
@CivilandSimple You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed. BULLSHIT.
At a high altitude you will not even HEAR a 747 AT ALL.
And if a jet fighter is low & SCREAMS BY YOU-you sure as shit hear it as loud as hell.The only time that u can't hear it too well if it's coming towards you but HAS NOT PASSED YOU YET. When it does pass you it's louder than HELL.
@ed11561 Okay, let me rephrase that, I assumed we were all on topic, but, my bad. If a 747 is flying low enough to hit a building, your going to hear it, before you hear a fighter jet at a lower altitude. Now, if you choose to pick another point to argue, at least choose something not so trivial, and easily understandable.
@ed11561 Your failure to properly read and comprehend something has nothing to do with me. We're watching a video about airplanes being flown into a building. When I compare the sounds of a 747 and a Jet, I assume you understand the altitudes their being flown at, I didn't think I had to list specifics..especially seeing as you like to assume you know 100%. Which, from what I can see, is total BULLSHIT. Also, note I said high, I didn't say peak. With that said, assume away, jackass.
@CivilandSimple "Your failure to properly read " OH REALLY MORON? WHO WROTE THIS?
" You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed." OH REALLY ASSHOLE?
YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR A 747 AT A HIGH ALTITUDE YOU FUCKING MORON.
That's not my failure to read doucheboy...it's your failure to write a complete LIE & bogus statement that any 8 year old would know to be FALSE. LOL WRONG AGAIN LOSER.
HIGH ALTITUDE IS NOT AT 1500 FEET YOU FUCKING DOUCHE. lol fuckoff
@CivilandSimple Schools:Lorraine Alternitive High School, Eisenhower Jr. High School, Eisenhower High School, Elgin High School, Great Plains LOL ALTERNATIVE DUMMY-YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL IT SHITHEAD. LOL
BEEN IN ENOUGH SCHOOLS MORON? LMFAO. THEY THREW YOU OUT FOR STUPIDITY.
@ed11561 Actually, I scored a 78 on my Asvab, got a 12/12 on my Sage, and scored a 12.5/13 on my Adult Knowledge test. I was kicked from my school for Tardys, none of it intelligence related. Now, I assume, by your reaction and the way you type, I've either proved your stupid, or wrong. Plus, as I've stated before, which you probably didn't pick up on. I'm an army brat, we move a lot.
@CivilandSimple Lorraine Alternitive High School NEED I SAY MORE ASSHOLE? A L T E R N A T I V E
Sure you're an army brat...1 dumb fuck.
I was kicked from my school for Tardys, none of it intelligence related LOL AND THIS DUMB FUCK ADMITS IT. ROTFLMFAO HAHAHAHAHA TARDY MY ASS. YOU WERE THROWN OUT FOR BEING STUPID HENCE......THE ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL. HAHAHAHAHA
@ed11561 How do you get that from anything I said? The school someone goes to is not a testament to how smart they are. Especially when I went there in 8th grade. A misspelled word does not make someone dumb, especially when it was written 3 years ago. The fact you can't back up anything you've said pertaining to the topic, or dispute my statements logically proves your a little slow on the subject matter. The fact you've resulted to personal attacks proves you lack intellect.
@CivilandSimple especially when it was written 3 years ago SO YOU'RE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP BY SAYING IT WAS 3 YEAR AGO?? HAHAHAHA You were dumb 3 years ago but you're not now? LOL
Personal attacks prove exactly NOTHING about intelligence moron.
Inserting computer graphic planes over "whatever" hit the towers is the only thing that makes sense &is the only thing that accounts for the multiple differences that each flight has shown.Flight 175 has too many differing colors,sizes,shapes,trajectories,sounds of "roaring overhead,or lack of, differing sounds of the explosions also. Same goes for flight11,differing colors,sizes,shapes,overhead 'roaring',or lack of,& differing sounds of explosions. None sound close to how they should sound.
you truthers need to do real research before spreading bs all over the internet. How idiotic can you be to deny that planes were involved when it was seen by hundreds if not thousands of witnesses and numerous recordings. Typing 9/11 conspiracy is not research. You claim that majority fall for the media's lies; well most likely you fell from a 12 year kid's bs on the uncontrolled internet.
@Hoyacap88 This film has NOTHING to do with REAL TRUTHERS DEMANDING A NEW INVESTIGATION genius.
This kind of shit is from scum in the government who try to make all 911 Truth people look like they are raving maniacs & conspiracy nuts.There are hardly ANY 911 TRUTH PEOPLE who believe this dumb shit & i'm one of them.
This more likely came from some government disinfo asshole or the cia to make all 911 people look like total nut jobs.
It's called PROPAGANDA & Lies & has worked for them 4decades
I will not allow this disrespect towards women and blatant ignorance on my page. This comment will be removed and you are now banned. Good luck to you.
@kansasinnovember This bullshit film is so so bad that it looks like a copy of a copy of a copy on a horrendously old TV set.
911 was NOT a huge hoax moron. It happened. PLANES & ALL in the case of the towers.Granted noone could find a plane in Shankesville or the Pentagon But there were certainly fucking planes in NYC that crashed into the towers.
@ed11561 so you admit nobody could find a "plane" in shanksville or at the pentagon..could you now tell me about how the engine planted oops! sorry found on murray street landed where it did without knocking down any of the surrounding scaffolding and how long those specific engines have been used on 767's
@kansasinnovember so you admit nobody could find a "plane" in shanksville or at the pentagon..NO I DON'T ADMIT ANYTHING ASSHOLE...I JUST OUTRIGHT SAID IT MORON.
Surrounding scaffolding?? LOL On the street level? That's just "PLANE" stupid.
THOUSANDS of people saw those planes on 911. That's why i specifically said the planes that hit the towers.
@RLhockey203 have you ever seen a magician saw his assistant in half on "live tv",did you ring the police believing you had just witnessed a murder or did you have the intelligence to realise not everything on television is real. hollow aluminium planes can not slice through steel structured buildings without losing their fragile wing tips and tail-sections,it defies the laws of physics.
your television is a "weapon of mass distraction",turn it off.
@seeknthetruth the fuck are you talking about? i was actually into 9/11 conspiracy when i was younger now... really the only plausible evidence is the towers freefall
sooo, you believe the nose of a plane can go thru two steel walls? if you do, you're a moron. your TV and media sold you some BS on 911 and you bought it. the sad thing is its ten years later now and you still believe it. that's what i'm talking about.
@seeknthetruth yes i believe a 767-200ER type which weighs 181,160 pounds (empty weight), flying at an average cruising speed of 533 mph, with 10,000 gallons of rocket fuel could make quite a big boom, im sorry but with the velocity and weight, it could and did slice through like butter
"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass & it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook & the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
@ctcole77 oh well!...i guess we can all pack up and put an end to all this talk of a conspiracy,i mean if mr. fucking Campo says he saw a plane while cutting the fucking grass then that's good enough for me...
I found this intresting some time ago but this all has been debunked and there has been no response, i guess they work like RkOwen4 or who ever the fuck he was.
Nose in, nose out? But they do not match, i can make an apple and banana match when i fade one out while applying other on it... I strongly recommend to research, everything has been debunked but what has not been debunked is A&E for 9/11 truth... peace out and keep your focus, alot of disinfo out there.
@SpikeDawg45 ..2 of the "planes" AA 11 & 77 had no records or log data (i.e non existant) the other 2 UA 175 & 93 weren't even de-registered until 2005,oddly worded as "cancelled" instead of the legally required "destroyed" and contrary to FAA regulations.
the "fake" cgi planes only ever appeared on television.
real hollow aluminium planes will never be able to slice through steel structured buildings without losing their fragile aluminium wing tips & tail-section.
@kansasinnovember You are just repeating DEBUNKED ideas you've gotten from a handful of truther sites. Do some research outside of the truther sites and THINK FOR YOURSELF.
@plbhl This SHIT isn't from real 911 TRUTH SITES this is fucking horseshit spread probably by people who want real 911 truth activists to look stupid, Because this is some really dumb shit.
I am a 911 Truth Activist who wants a REAL 911 COMMISSION & this no plane "theory" is total fucking horseshit lies to make us look like nuts. Probably put out by some government agency like the CIA or NSA & some morons adhere to the idea-not real truthers but IDIOTS.
@kansasinnovember It could mean that these planes were not owned by the airlines, by CIA or whoever. Even if there weren't planes on 9/11, SO WHAT??!! The buildings fell, the war was started, PATRIOT Act enacted, QUIT WASTING YOUR ENERGY.
What about Stanley... Can't remember his last name.... He saw the plane coming towards his window, and dove under his desk... The plan going in was captured by too many people.... There's no hoax with this.... How dare you "theorists" dishonor the 3,000 dead.....
I see just three faults with the "fake" plane theory:
1: The giant PLANE shaped entryholes.
2: No missile in existance explodes in such a fireball. A missile is constructed to generate a massive pressurewave, not a huge fireball like the one we see.
3: If the flameable liquid WAS stored in the building prior to the "missile" hit, don't you think someone would notice the storagetanks with the thousands of gallons of liquid needed to create such a big and sustained fireball 70 stories up?
1:the giant "plane" entryhole is as fake as the "planes" themselves ( watch "911 amateur part 2) explain how original cnn & fox footage shows the "planes" nose cone exit out of the other side of the wtc,yet footage just prior to collapse shows NO exit hole?
2:no missiles were used,explosives inside the towers brought down the wtc.
3:and as far as witnesses inside the wtc,maybe you should check on the actual occupency figures made availible under the freedom of information act.
@kansasinnovember I have a question for you, what would be the purpose of using holograms as opposed to real planes? And even if there weren't planes on 9/11, SO WHAT??!! The buildings fell, the war was started, PATRIOT Act enacted, QUIT WASTING YOUR ENERGY.
@Stillwater900 who mentioned "holograms"?,not me!...try telling the diffrence between holograms and cgi.as far as "why not just use real planes"?,who on earth would offer their pilotting skills in a certain suicide mission?
@kansasinnovember But people saw the planes in New York........ And OBVIOUSLY they wouldn't be PILOTED, they Air Force has been able to control aircraft remotely for a long time, and its not very hard. Empty towers???? What about all those people who lost someone there? The people who got out of buildings??? Maybe they are all holograms too eh!! MAYBE NEW YORK WAS A HOLOGRAM!!!
@Stillwater900 the problem with your remote planes theory is the possibility of the airlines missing their targets and crashing into the streets of new york for the waiting world to see...how on earth could the government explain this or would they simply say al qaeda had access to remote planes? and try reading "divided we stand" written in 1999 by eric darton it descibes how the towers were progressivley emptied (relocated) of tenants from '93 onwards.
@kansasinnovember They are more accurate than a manned plane. Haven't you ever heard the Global Hawk drones? they've been using them since the 90's to bomb the Arabs. Haha what, are you thinking that if the RC planes crashed on the street, people would run over and look inside the burning wreckage? Of course not!
@Stillwater900 the powers that be (when they finally face trial) would rather be found guilty of mass fraud and deception etc etc etc than the mass murder of their own people. over the past few months i have encountered many people who claim to have lost family members to the fraud of 9/11 yet every single one has failed in providing absolute proof,most simply throw insults and run.
@kansasinnovember Well how dare those people not provide absolute proof their family members were killed! How dare they!!..... There have got to be at least 10,000 people who lost someone dear, all those people are actors? So you're thinking that these people will go to trial huh.... You've got a long way to go pal... They don't follow the laws they set for the countries they rape. Thats real cute, "face trial." !!
More like 3000 people. This is due to having nthing but blind faith with actually doing any research. After the avoidance and sarcasm is over, the question still remains. Where is the proof of these victims?
@muzicmaker2001 No no no, 10,000 people at LEAST who LOST someone on 9/11, how do you pay all those actors and make sure every one of them doesn't blab? The proof of the victims? I think we saw a bunch of them waving from the smoke and jumping. The firefighters said they found lots of bones and and burned bodies. Don't be gullible.
To assume that 10,000 people lost someone, it has to proven that 3000 people died, right? Specifically, the passengers in the planes. That's what this video is about, not firefighters and the people in the WTC. Remember?
@muzicmaker2001 Oh come ON, you saw people waving from the smoke and jumping, there are gory photos of them smashed up on the ground, close up photos too. ALLLLL those people I've seen over the past 10 years talking about who they lost, they are ALLLL actors???!!! Its just more trouble than its worth! Why do with more what could be done with less?? WHY
@muzicmaker2001 Oh, I thought you were saying the employees were faked too. Yeah, I don't know about those people, only a handful are listed on the Social Security Death Registrar, and very little of the money was claimed by the families. The theory that I found most likely, the one proposed in a sumposium I cant remember the name of, was that there were less people than stated, the oxygen was cut off, they passed out, and the RC took over.
9/11 was an inside job. No question, there needs to be a REAL investigation.
However, as someone who was riding in a truck over the brooklyn bridge, who watched the second plane fly into the building.....I can tell you with finality...you're wrong. And this video is the kind of thing that keeps people from taking any REAL theories seriously.
ViteksLR 2 days ago
This is great news. Now all you need to do is tell the families of all the innocent people thought to have died in that plane crash. There families are going to be very excited about this news.
clubinsky33 1 week ago
@clubinsky33 don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. these conspiracy nutjobs have no problem loudly voicing their crazy delusions, but they're not so good at considering the consequences.
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
Have you heard from or seen any of the victim's family members from these planes in the last 10 yrs? Say, on TV, a talk show, news program or even on the net, etc? Personally, I haven't seen one..
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 why, are you trying to get in touch with them?
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
no, just an observation..
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 probably an incorrect observation, considering the fact that you don't like to look very hard for information that contradicts your own goofed-up beliefs.
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
Ok, good luck on your "defend 911 at all costs" tour on all related YT pages. I'll watch for ya..
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 thanks. good luck trying to convince a sane human being that there were no planes on 911. let me know if you have any success.
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
No luck needed. Just check out the likes vs dislikes and majority of comments left here and on every page dedicated to this subject. Aluminum can penetrate steel? It only takes a brain.
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 what's it like being the craziest of the crazies? are you proud of it?
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
But, with an agenda to defend 911, anyone who disagrees with you is crazy in your mind, right? So....
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 no, some conspiracy believers are just confused or naive. people like you, however, are certifiably insane.
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
Then, it seems "certifiably insane" still has more pull here than agenda to defend 911. Kinda makes ya think, huh?
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 more pull? where? on the youtube comments section?
shoofirbin 1 week ago
@shoofirbin
Gotta run. Enjoy your Sat night. Protect n' serve no matter what and say hi to to all of the other "defenders of the truth".
muzicmaker2001 1 week ago
@muzicmaker2001 i understand. you have to get back to the group home. say hello to the other mid-level functioning lunatics.
shoofirbin 1 week ago
okeej , if the plane's werent crashed into the bulding , what was it that crashed ????
samy9990turnboy 1 week ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
that's not the nose of the plane. it's a compressed explosion being blown out of the opposite end. the smoke is in the shape of a "nose" or torpedo because of its velocity its travelling it. it then dissipates into a cloud.
latesguy66 2 weeks ago
@latesguy66 That sir, is so wrong on so many basic levels that it's shameful.
orange70383 2 weeks ago 8
SO I guess 230something people vanished? Got on flights & never heard from again...
Think about it
TinkerTailorSoldier1 1 month ago
@TinkerTailorSoldier1 Operation Northwoods. See how it works?
BatmansArse 1 month ago
The most convincing part for me is the end! Zoom out no plane. Zoom in and one travels a mile in 2 second? No.
jamespshort 2 months ago
@jamespshort thats right, no single civillian airplane can go thru miles in just seconds like the video feed. obviously, there is "something" going on...
VladiSSius 3 weeks ago
additionally the "aircraft" goes from flying in air, to penetrating a wall, and does not slow down at all. Whats up with that?
Gaz00ks 2 months ago
You can see the same exact tube being ejected from any other angle, so it is debris.
jawsflounderace 3 months ago in playlist More videos from muzicmaker2001
Um what about the thousands of other videos and witness accounts of the 2nd plane
EddieVedder13 3 months ago
@EddieVedder13
There are not thusands (or even hundreds) of videos of the 2nd plane. And can you post just 15 witnesses recorded live on 911 of the 2nd plane? Just ordinary folks with no connection to the media or government.
muzicmaker2001 3 months ago 3
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Planes DID hit BOTH towers. I was there. I WATCHED the 2nd plane hit the South Tower. Not a single "Truther" (talk about your oxymorons) was there -- period. If you were there, you would not be a "Truther."
This video proves you wrong:
/watch?v=StnwrFGkhGY
TheHorta 4 months ago
why the doomsday plane took off
watch this
9/11 the third truth
voodoowichdoctor 4 months ago
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megamogx 5 months ago
how the towers where built check on youtube 9/11 WTC. PLANES THRU STEEL
arrivagabry 5 months ago
This is super interesting, thanks for posting this. Makes sense to make that the "hjackers" were not actually suicide bombers but got paid off quite nicely. I'd like to know more about this if any new evidence sheds light
sleepyfish 5 months ago
my friend and his employee stood on his south west facing balcony on the corner of West 14th street and 8th avenue. he watched the second plane fly into the south tower. he put down his video camera as he was confused by what the second plane was doing, He watched it hit the building. i guess he was in on it too.
cj1301 5 months ago
Oh my god. Even this video looks may like a manipulation - what about all the other 50 videos showing the impact? And if you compare to other videos, you will see that there is something extruded from the tower very fast (maybe jet gear) and directly go into fire and smoke. this is what makes this video seem to be an manipulation.
but that does not say that the goverment was not involved into..
berliner424 5 months ago
what about the people who were there at ground zero. they all said they saw a plane hit the tower...
MrSuperdrunk123 5 months ago
@MrSuperdrunk123
I'm having trouble finding just 15-20 witnesses recorded live on 911 with no connection to the media or government. There are more live witnesses on explosions all throughout the building.
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 So what happened to the people inside the planes that were hijacked? What happened to the United and american airlines million dollar property that just was destroyed? You have no answer for that
santran 5 months ago
@santran
Yes, you are correct. I have no idea what happened to the passengers or if they even existed. But, how would know what happened to them? I only deal with the known evidence..like cartoon-looking plane images melting thru steel like butter.
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 You don't know if the passengers existed? There were passenger lists and security surveillance of people boarding those flights terrorist or not. There are so many families who are out there who lost their family that day, people who boarded those flights disappeared and died and were not in new york when they boarded those planes. If you don't believe that then you've lost all legitimacy.
santran 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 You don't know if the passengers existed? There were passenger lists and security surveillance of people boarding those flights terrorist or not. There are so many families who are out there who lost their family that day, people who boarded those flights disappeared and died and were not in new york when they boarded those planes. If you don't believe that then you've lost all legitimacy.
santran 5 months ago
@santran
Again, where are are the witnesses of the planes. And NONE of the wreckage has been officially verified as belonging to the registered flights. And all requests for the wreckage serial numbers and the process of identification of the wreckage have been denied. if the planes actually existed, why the mystery? It doesn't make sense.
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001
Haha, I gotta admit, I almost fell for this, until I remembered all of the other videos of the plane hitting the towers and how it definately looked like a plane that was hitting the tower.
Also, that aint the plane's nose you idiot, its the explosion :L
xaxie1 5 months ago
@xaxie1
Yes, an explosion that matches the shape of the nose right down to the last pixel? What are the odds? I can see why you believe it...
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@santran Infact, unfortunately my cousin was one of the passengers on the first plane, her name was Christine Barbuto, you can google her name. The "no plane theory" is offensive and disrespectful to the families that lost their loved ones on those planes. For the ones that believe the no plane theory what they don't know is that the towers where not made of solid steel, but hollow steel bars and only the floors where concrete. the plane probably bent the bars in with the speed power.
arrivagabry 5 months ago
@arrivagabry building 7?
benopolly 1 month ago
@santran Operation Northwoods, look it up
BatmansArse 1 month ago
@MrSuperdrunk123 The same people who said the towers fell due to structual failure right there and then? They were pretty informed hey? Thank fuck these experts were on the streets and the news knew who did it within an hour. Please!
BatmansArse 1 month ago
how do you explain the missing plane which was flight 11 and 175?? oh wait they werent missing, they were just used to kill close to 3000 people for their own fucked up needs. If you honestly think it was a missile that was launched into the south tower even as well as the north tower, you are a complete idiot. The plane may have been made by aluminum, but the other components of the plane plus the fact it was going close too 600 mph, could explain that it did that. now please, get a life dick.
cabamya23 5 months ago
@cabamya23 600 MPH? That's nowhere near possible at that altitude. Hilarious!
BatmansArse 1 month ago
there were so few pixels in that nose that anything would of been a "micro match"
amazingfertilla123 5 months ago
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planes hit the towers end story
911wikileaks 5 months ago
Love the lady who said "It's seems to be on purpose"
judedAdudE77 5 months ago
what a moron.. enough said. people like you who believe or make up these crazy theories just want to sound intelligent and attention whores. fuckn idiots
eekman87 5 months ago
you guys are dumb
inyaneck1 5 months ago
A plane can go through, the same way that peice of foam punched a hole through the colombian space shuttle in 2005- and that been PROVEN. materials behave differently at very high speeds. Take a physics class.
TheJermanRamirez 5 months ago
@TheJermanRamirez
I like to use other aluminum plane vs. hard surface examples instead of home made physics. The B25 bomber that hit the Empire State building. The majority of Flight 77 supposedly disintegrated when hitting the Pentagon. Or this example
watch?v=9ZKf0s4aqkU
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001, home made physics? this was proven by NASA..... but im sure your more informed on this than they are.
and of course the disintegrated, but not before causing alot of damage, much of the "nose" in the video was not the plane itself but the blow of particles blasted in the impression of the plane.
getrealplp 5 months ago
@getrealplp
So, you think its just a wild and rare coincidence that this "blow of particles blasted" matches the nose of the plane perfectly down to the last pixel?
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 but it doesn't
THENINTENDOLUMINARY 5 months ago
@THENINTENDOLUMINARY
Let me guess. Pixels numbers 123-133 out of total 500 pixels are slightly out of place? I've already seen the clip.
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
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Don't mind "MyLibelSuit", it's just Daryl Carstensen (aka TheCrimsonSkull, SunWestMovies) being the usual asshole that he is when confronted with the reality that he is a harasser, stalker and woman abuser.
If anyone confronts him, just report him.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You're libel is noted and I will use every word of it in a court of Law.
I'm suing you for lying about me and libeling me on a public forum.
You are a criminal.
MyLibelSuit 5 months ago
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Don't mind "MyLibelSuit", it's just Daryl Carstensen (aka TheCrimsonSkull, SunWestMovies) being the usual asshole that he is when confronted with the reality that he is a harasser, stalker and woman abuser.
If anyone confronts him, just report him.
WhyAskQuestions 5 months ago
Do people ACTUALLY believe this drivel????????????
Konnerdad 5 months ago
@Konnerdad People like you make me SICK! WHY? all you ever seem to do is throw insults, and debunking claims at such things ( without ever logically or structurally ) providing any real rational, logical, and constructive counter claims dispelling or refuting what evidence has been placed forward!!! Go get educated !!!
normski262 5 months ago 15
@normski262 and people like you make me even SICKER. Why? because like witless drones you latch on an absurd theory and piss on the memory on those who were lost on this tragic day. Seriously you "No-Planers" make Alex Jones, Michael Moore and Glenn Beck seem sane and reasonable. Me get educated? Son, I have for more education than you feeble mind could ever obtain. If you call this bunch of hooey evidence, then I have bridge to sell you because you are the text book example of gulible.
Konnerdad 5 months ago
@Konnerdad
This is more ignorance. Evaluating the evidence has nothing to do with disrespecting anyone. Actually, its the opposite. If I lost my life due to a lie, I hope that there would someone out there fighting for the truth and not just blindly believing everything that is told to them.
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001Agreed, seeking the truth is not disrespectful. But dear lord, no planes hit the towers???????? Good hell man, that is insulting!!! You no planer idiots are as vile and offensive as holocaust deniers. It takes a special breed of buffoon to call this stinking pile of steaming horse crap "evidence". You know the type of utter moron that believes the government caused the tsunami in Japan with HAARP. I will pray that one day a brain may grow in the cavernous space you call skull.
Konnerdad 5 months ago
@Konnerdad
It only takes a brain..
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You're a criminal and I'm suing you. See you in a court of Law very soon.
MyLibelSuit 5 months ago
@WhyAskQuestions You're a criminal and you're being sued for libelous actions that you posted online. See you in court.
MyLibelSuit 5 months ago
I do not believe the no planes theory. I honestly beileve there WERE planes involved. Now, this does not mean that I believe every aspect of 9/11 the media tells me. I DO think that the CIA was in league with Osama for a while, and that he had their support. It's even possible that the CIA may have gotten actual planes (Replicas of the hijacked planes, most likely) and crashed them, while the hijacked planes were simply flown to some empty field, like the one that crashed in Pennsylvania.
MrPS3player10 5 months ago
What the fuck? This is one of the most retarded videos on 9/11 conspiracy that I've seen so far. And I've seen quite a few. LOL!
infestuation 5 months ago
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@WhyAskQuestions I see you're hiding behind the person that runs the "Sharky2055" acct. That's not going to help you.
You libeled me and you're being sued for doing it.
MyLibelSuit 5 months ago
Not reading through this all, but if there were no planes, why would the thousands of people below who saw it with their own eyes say there was a plane?? I don't believe for a second there wasn't some sort of Goverment involvement, but no planes? Come on!
england1213 5 months ago
Very interesting footage and certainly looks dodgy for me.
Just what happened to the airplanes then??
yogbert 6 months ago
NO BUILDINGS THEORY....
I've seen all the footage, read all the reports and all the independent studies.
The world trade centre complex was a biomechanical holographonic direct data projection from the moon and an orbiting syzygy of four solid titanium photonic hyper-actualization satellites . There were no buildings. This is fact people!
rockyonemambo 6 months ago
@rockyonemambo Agreed !!!!!!!!11
Alyssachu 6 months ago
Bravo. The bottom line is that the Entire Coporate Media Outlets were in on it.
This is an even more important discovery than it was a planned event. It was not only meticulously planned, but finely orchestrated as a purposeful, deliberate ruse. There can be no doubt about the intention of 9-11.
This feels very much like being cheated / conned by some one you trust more than anything in the world.
dobbsjhf 6 months ago
I watched the September Clues series on YouTube, and I have to admit, I think there is enough evidence here to bring charges of treason and terror against all of the network media that were involved in this, as well as members of our own government who were involved. This is some serious stuff. I cannot believe the government hasn't tried to censor it yet, to save their face.
retiredaxmurderer 7 months ago 12
look i do beleive that its was a boeng jet that crashed into the WTC but your very satisfiing evidence has made me rethink.
randomday1234 7 months ago
watch?v=5bNomV_8034
911mythsDOTcom/indexDOTphp/Nose_out
truthdonthurt 8 months ago
@truthdonthurt
There's a good reason why there's more thumbs down votes than thumbs up...
muzicmaker2001 7 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Yeah, because the nuts will thumbs-down anything that doesn't agree with what they think. Honestly, going by the thumbs up/thumbs down ratio? Come on.
truthdonthurt 7 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 um there is not 177 up 75 down biatch
jacknivedoesdemo 7 months ago
@jacknivedoesdemo
what?
muzicmaker2001 7 months ago
You should be able to see the plane before the close-up... But you don't...
BennyT95 8 months ago
this shit is hillarious.
OddFellow111 8 months ago
ok 9/11 was not a fukn conspiracy ppl who lost thier lives had a final talk before they died via plane hitting wtc...
MrGeassR2 8 months ago
You have no knowledge of aviation other than living near an airport.LOL Now why don't you read what the dozens if not hundreds of MILITARY PILOTS,Intelligence agents & High Ranking Majors & GENERALS said of 911 & how the government bullshit conspiracy theories were flawed beyond belief.And how they were basically LIES by the Bush Administration & the Penta-con.
patriotsquestion911 . com/
ed11561 8 months ago
And the thing is, going through your page, I agree with most of your stand-points, and was agreeing with you here. Why the hell you started attacking me, or why the hell you can't hold a civilized conversation is beyond me. You would make a good theorist, and if that's your pic, a good martial artist...It's just a shame your so damn stupid. I don't know about you, but one of the first things MMA taught me was to pull my head out my ass, apparently you didn't get the memo.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple You have no knowledge of aviation other than living near an airport.LOL Now why don't you read what the dozens if not hundreds of MILITARY PILOTS,Intelligence agents & High Ranking Majors & GENERALS said of 911 & how the government bullshit conspiracy theories were flawed beyond belief.And how they were basically LIES by the Bush Administration & the Penta-con.
patriotsquestion911 . com/
These are the people who WORK INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT,they know more than any of us.LEARN
ed11561 8 months ago
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CivilandSimple 8 months ago
On top of the fact you can't type for shit and I'm basically talking (typing) circles around you isn't working well for you either. So, if I'm stupid, what exactly does that make you? Because, at this point, I'm thinking retard is a little too lenient, by definition alone at least. Insult wise, I think it's a little too good for ya'.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple I'm basically talking (typing) circles around you YOU REALLY MUST BE TOTALLY FUCKING IGNORANT IF YOU BELIEVE THAT ASSHOLE. lol
ed11561 8 months ago
Excellent work!!
Let's hope these traitors get what they deserve one day
Galv140577 8 months ago 6
I live very close to an air force base and an air port. Take it from somebody who sees and hears them everyday. You WILL hear a 747, it doesn't matter if it's a foot over your head or a hundred, you will hear it. Fighter Jets are relatively quiet, they can be heard, but not easily, they usually need to be seen first. You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed. BULLSHIT.
At a high altitude you will not even HEAR a 747 AT ALL.
And if a jet fighter is low & SCREAMS BY YOU-you sure as shit hear it as loud as hell.The only time that u can't hear it too well if it's coming towards you but HAS NOT PASSED YOU YET. When it does pass you it's louder than HELL.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561 Okay, let me rephrase that, I assumed we were all on topic, but, my bad. If a 747 is flying low enough to hit a building, your going to hear it, before you hear a fighter jet at a lower altitude. Now, if you choose to pick another point to argue, at least choose something not so trivial, and easily understandable.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple All on topic? bullshit.You just stated the dumbest thing i ever hear about 747's at high altitude,etc...
that ever heard.And you want to make like it was because someone wasn't on "topic"....fucking assinine.
Your completely FALSE & WRONG statement was'nt trivial it was 100% wrong & total bullshit.
You try to clean it up but u can't.It's done. YOU ARE WRONG. period.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561 Your failure to properly read and comprehend something has nothing to do with me. We're watching a video about airplanes being flown into a building. When I compare the sounds of a 747 and a Jet, I assume you understand the altitudes their being flown at, I didn't think I had to list specifics..especially seeing as you like to assume you know 100%. Which, from what I can see, is total BULLSHIT. Also, note I said high, I didn't say peak. With that said, assume away, jackass.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple "Your failure to properly read " OH REALLY MORON? WHO WROTE THIS?
" You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed." OH REALLY ASSHOLE?
YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR A 747 AT A HIGH ALTITUDE YOU FUCKING MORON.
That's not my failure to read doucheboy...it's your failure to write a complete LIE & bogus statement that any 8 year old would know to be FALSE. LOL WRONG AGAIN LOSER.
HIGH ALTITUDE IS NOT AT 1500 FEET YOU FUCKING DOUCHE. lol fuckoff
ed11561 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple Schools:Lorraine Alternitive High School, Eisenhower Jr. High School, Eisenhower High School, Elgin High School, Great Plains LOL ALTERNATIVE DUMMY-YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL IT SHITHEAD. LOL
BEEN IN ENOUGH SCHOOLS MORON? LMFAO. THEY THREW YOU OUT FOR STUPIDITY.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561 Actually, I scored a 78 on my Asvab, got a 12/12 on my Sage, and scored a 12.5/13 on my Adult Knowledge test. I was kicked from my school for Tardys, none of it intelligence related. Now, I assume, by your reaction and the way you type, I've either proved your stupid, or wrong. Plus, as I've stated before, which you probably didn't pick up on. I'm an army brat, we move a lot.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple Lorraine Alternitive High School NEED I SAY MORE ASSHOLE? A L T E R N A T I V E
Sure you're an army brat...1 dumb fuck.
I was kicked from my school for Tardys, none of it intelligence related LOL AND THIS DUMB FUCK ADMITS IT. ROTFLMFAO HAHAHAHAHA TARDY MY ASS. YOU WERE THROWN OUT FOR BEING STUPID HENCE......THE ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL. HAHAHAHAHA
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561 How do you get that from anything I said? The school someone goes to is not a testament to how smart they are. Especially when I went there in 8th grade. A misspelled word does not make someone dumb, especially when it was written 3 years ago. The fact you can't back up anything you've said pertaining to the topic, or dispute my statements logically proves your a little slow on the subject matter. The fact you've resulted to personal attacks proves you lack intellect.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple especially when it was written 3 years ago SO YOU'RE TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP BY SAYING IT WAS 3 YEAR AGO?? HAHAHAHA You were dumb 3 years ago but you're not now? LOL
Personal attacks prove exactly NOTHING about intelligence moron.
ed11561 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple Eight U.S. State Department Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11
by Alan Miller
Official Account of 9/11: “Flawed”, “Absurd”, “Totally Inadequate”, “a Cover-up”
ed11561 8 months ago
Oh yea, and way to prove me right jackass.
CivilandSimple 8 months ago
@CivilandSimple You will hear a 747 at a high altitude before you hear a fighter jet at a low, guaranteed. LOL
U DUMB FUCK IT'S STILL A LIE & NOT TRUE ASSHOLE
ed11561 8 months ago
Inserting computer graphic planes over "whatever" hit the towers is the only thing that makes sense &is the only thing that accounts for the multiple differences that each flight has shown.Flight 175 has too many differing colors,sizes,shapes,trajectories,sounds of "roaring overhead,or lack of, differing sounds of the explosions also. Same goes for flight11,differing colors,sizes,shapes,overhead 'roaring',or lack of,& differing sounds of explosions. None sound close to how they should sound.
molitor2005 8 months ago
you truthers need to do real research before spreading bs all over the internet. How idiotic can you be to deny that planes were involved when it was seen by hundreds if not thousands of witnesses and numerous recordings. Typing 9/11 conspiracy is not research. You claim that majority fall for the media's lies; well most likely you fell from a 12 year kid's bs on the uncontrolled internet.
Hoyacap88 8 months ago
@Hoyacap88
"hundreds if not thousands of witnesses"
See my comment to mynameiswiz about the witnesses.
muzicmaker2001 8 months ago
@Hoyacap88 This film has NOTHING to do with REAL TRUTHERS DEMANDING A NEW INVESTIGATION genius.
This kind of shit is from scum in the government who try to make all 911 Truth people look like they are raving maniacs & conspiracy nuts.There are hardly ANY 911 TRUTH PEOPLE who believe this dumb shit & i'm one of them.
This more likely came from some government disinfo asshole or the cia to make all 911 people look like total nut jobs.
It's called PROPAGANDA & Lies & has worked for them 4decades
ed11561 8 months ago
@mynameiswiz
I will not allow this disrespect towards women and blatant ignorance on my page. This comment will be removed and you are now banned. Good luck to you.
muzicmaker2001 8 months ago
9/11 (fake) videos that show:
weather...sunny / dull.
cgi planes...nose out / no nose out.
wtc smoke...grey / thick black.
2nd flight trajectory..."divebomber" / straight approach.
2nd flight...wings & tail that disappear / wings & tail that don't.
9/11..a huge hoax all delivered via the greatest propaganda tool ever invented....your television
kansasinnovember 8 months ago 30
@kansasinnovember are you retarded?
killingwithasmile182 8 months ago
@kansasinnovember This bullshit film is so so bad that it looks like a copy of a copy of a copy on a horrendously old TV set.
911 was NOT a huge hoax moron. It happened. PLANES & ALL in the case of the towers.Granted noone could find a plane in Shankesville or the Pentagon But there were certainly fucking planes in NYC that crashed into the towers.
Stop passing this horsehit off as REAL.
ed11561 8 months ago
@ed11561 so you admit nobody could find a "plane" in shanksville or at the pentagon..could you now tell me about how the engine planted oops! sorry found on murray street landed where it did without knocking down any of the surrounding scaffolding and how long those specific engines have been used on 767's
kansasinnovember 8 months ago 2
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@kansasinnovember so you admit nobody could find a "plane" in shanksville or at the pentagon..NO I DON'T ADMIT ANYTHING ASSHOLE...I JUST OUTRIGHT SAID IT MORON.
Surrounding scaffolding?? LOL On the street level? That's just "PLANE" stupid.
THOUSANDS of people saw those planes on 911. That's why i specifically said the planes that hit the towers.
Go smoke some more dope.
ed11561 8 months ago
@kansasinnovember your fucking retarded, i remember when i was 11 and i actually believed shit like this
RLhockey203 5 months ago
@RLhockey203 have you ever seen a magician saw his assistant in half on "live tv",did you ring the police believing you had just witnessed a murder or did you have the intelligence to realise not everything on television is real. hollow aluminium planes can not slice through steel structured buildings without losing their fragile wing tips and tail-sections,it defies the laws of physics.
your television is a "weapon of mass distraction",turn it off.
kansasinnovember 5 months ago
@RLhockey203
i remember back when i was 5 when i believe everything that was told and what i saw on TV...like santa claus. merry christmas moron!!!
seeknthetruth 5 months ago 23
@seeknthetruth the fuck are you talking about? i was actually into 9/11 conspiracy when i was younger now... really the only plausible evidence is the towers freefall
RLhockey203 5 months ago
@RLhockey203
sooo, you believe the nose of a plane can go thru two steel walls? if you do, you're a moron. your TV and media sold you some BS on 911 and you bought it. the sad thing is its ten years later now and you still believe it. that's what i'm talking about.
seeknthetruth 5 months ago
@seeknthetruth yes i believe a 767-200ER type which weighs 181,160 pounds (empty weight), flying at an average cruising speed of 533 mph, with 10,000 gallons of rocket fuel could make quite a big boom, im sorry but with the velocity and weight, it could and did slice through like butter
RLhockey203 5 months ago
@RLhockey203
basically, a hollow aluminum tube can slice thru a steel wall like butter and you call other people retarded? classic.. please read a book.
seeknthetruth 5 months ago
@seeknthetruth im sorry your right, in real life it would have only left some scratches and broken windows
RLhockey203 5 months ago
@seeknthetruth oh and by the way, if you didnt know, building are also hollow, they are solid steel
RLhockey203 5 months ago
@seeknthetruth
"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass & it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook & the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
911 WAS AN OUTSIDE JOB!
ctcole77 4 months ago
@ctcole77 oh well!...i guess we can all pack up and put an end to all this talk of a conspiracy,i mean if mr. fucking Campo says he saw a plane while cutting the fucking grass then that's good enough for me...
kansasinnovember 4 months ago
disinformation
danny470 9 months ago
0.16-why does it say fade to black?
lsteer100 9 months ago
no planes? my friking ASS!!!!!!
lsteer100 9 months ago
The no plane theorey is ridiculous. Truthers, just get over yourselves.
PHILLYPHAN5118109 9 months ago 4
I found this intresting some time ago but this all has been debunked and there has been no response, i guess they work like RkOwen4 or who ever the fuck he was.
Nose in, nose out? But they do not match, i can make an apple and banana match when i fade one out while applying other on it... I strongly recommend to research, everything has been debunked but what has not been debunked is A&E for 9/11 truth... peace out and keep your focus, alot of disinfo out there.
Matu1 9 months ago
I just have one question, what about the hundreds the people who lost their lives while on these highjacked planes? What about them?
SpikeDawg45 9 months ago
@SpikeDawg45 ..2 of the "planes" AA 11 & 77 had no records or log data (i.e non existant) the other 2 UA 175 & 93 weren't even de-registered until 2005,oddly worded as "cancelled" instead of the legally required "destroyed" and contrary to FAA regulations.
the "fake" cgi planes only ever appeared on television.
real hollow aluminium planes will never be able to slice through steel structured buildings without losing their fragile aluminium wing tips & tail-section.
kansasinnovember 9 months ago 13
@kansasinnovember You are just repeating DEBUNKED ideas you've gotten from a handful of truther sites. Do some research outside of the truther sites and THINK FOR YOURSELF.
plbhl 9 months ago
@plbhl This SHIT isn't from real 911 TRUTH SITES this is fucking horseshit spread probably by people who want real 911 truth activists to look stupid, Because this is some really dumb shit.
I am a 911 Truth Activist who wants a REAL 911 COMMISSION & this no plane "theory" is total fucking horseshit lies to make us look like nuts. Probably put out by some government agency like the CIA or NSA & some morons adhere to the idea-not real truthers but IDIOTS.
ed11561 8 months ago
@kansasinnovember not at the depicted speeds.
CZEKxBUTCHER 7 months ago
@kansasinnovember It could mean that these planes were not owned by the airlines, by CIA or whoever. Even if there weren't planes on 9/11, SO WHAT??!! The buildings fell, the war was started, PATRIOT Act enacted, QUIT WASTING YOUR ENERGY.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
What about Stanley... Can't remember his last name.... He saw the plane coming towards his window, and dove under his desk... The plan going in was captured by too many people.... There's no hoax with this.... How dare you "theorists" dishonor the 3,000 dead.....
himynameisatticus 9 months ago
@himynameisatticus
i realize now the america is the land of the free and the morons.
seeknthetruth 9 months ago
@seeknthetruth then get out of it if you dislike it
himynameisatticus 6 months ago
@himynameisatticus
there's equal opportunity for all..even the blind
seeknthetruth 6 months ago
@seeknthetruth Thanks Ghandi, go preach somewhere else
himynameisatticus 6 months ago
I see just three faults with the "fake" plane theory:
1: The giant PLANE shaped entryholes.
2: No missile in existance explodes in such a fireball. A missile is constructed to generate a massive pressurewave, not a huge fireball like the one we see.
3: If the flameable liquid WAS stored in the building prior to the "missile" hit, don't you think someone would notice the storagetanks with the thousands of gallons of liquid needed to create such a big and sustained fireball 70 stories up?
skynet091287 9 months ago
@skynet091287
1:the giant "plane" entryhole is as fake as the "planes" themselves ( watch "911 amateur part 2) explain how original cnn & fox footage shows the "planes" nose cone exit out of the other side of the wtc,yet footage just prior to collapse shows NO exit hole?
2:no missiles were used,explosives inside the towers brought down the wtc.
3:and as far as witnesses inside the wtc,maybe you should check on the actual occupency figures made availible under the freedom of information act.
kansasinnovember 9 months ago 3
@kansasinnovember I have a question for you, what would be the purpose of using holograms as opposed to real planes? And even if there weren't planes on 9/11, SO WHAT??!! The buildings fell, the war was started, PATRIOT Act enacted, QUIT WASTING YOUR ENERGY.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 who mentioned "holograms"?,not me!...try telling the diffrence between holograms and cgi.as far as "why not just use real planes"?,who on earth would offer their pilotting skills in a certain suicide mission?
cgi planes..empty towers..fake jumpers.
kansasinnovember 6 months ago
@kansasinnovember But people saw the planes in New York........ And OBVIOUSLY they wouldn't be PILOTED, they Air Force has been able to control aircraft remotely for a long time, and its not very hard. Empty towers???? What about all those people who lost someone there? The people who got out of buildings??? Maybe they are all holograms too eh!! MAYBE NEW YORK WAS A HOLOGRAM!!!
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 the problem with your remote planes theory is the possibility of the airlines missing their targets and crashing into the streets of new york for the waiting world to see...how on earth could the government explain this or would they simply say al qaeda had access to remote planes? and try reading "divided we stand" written in 1999 by eric darton it descibes how the towers were progressivley emptied (relocated) of tenants from '93 onwards.
kansasinnovember 6 months ago
@kansasinnovember They are more accurate than a manned plane. Haven't you ever heard the Global Hawk drones? they've been using them since the 90's to bomb the Arabs. Haha what, are you thinking that if the RC planes crashed on the street, people would run over and look inside the burning wreckage? Of course not!
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@kansasinnovember And what interest would the powers that be have in not having anyone really killed?
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 the powers that be (when they finally face trial) would rather be found guilty of mass fraud and deception etc etc etc than the mass murder of their own people. over the past few months i have encountered many people who claim to have lost family members to the fraud of 9/11 yet every single one has failed in providing absolute proof,most simply throw insults and run.
kansasinnovember 6 months ago
@kansasinnovember Well how dare those people not provide absolute proof their family members were killed! How dare they!!..... There have got to be at least 10,000 people who lost someone dear, all those people are actors? So you're thinking that these people will go to trial huh.... You've got a long way to go pal... They don't follow the laws they set for the countries they rape. Thats real cute, "face trial." !!
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900
"There have got to be at least 10,000 people"
More like 3000 people. This is due to having nthing but blind faith with actually doing any research. After the avoidance and sarcasm is over, the question still remains. Where is the proof of these victims?
muzicmaker2001 6 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 No no no, 10,000 people at LEAST who LOST someone on 9/11, how do you pay all those actors and make sure every one of them doesn't blab? The proof of the victims? I think we saw a bunch of them waving from the smoke and jumping. The firefighters said they found lots of bones and and burned bodies. Don't be gullible.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900
To assume that 10,000 people lost someone, it has to proven that 3000 people died, right? Specifically, the passengers in the planes. That's what this video is about, not firefighters and the people in the WTC. Remember?
muzicmaker2001 6 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Oh come ON, you saw people waving from the smoke and jumping, there are gory photos of them smashed up on the ground, close up photos too. ALLLLL those people I've seen over the past 10 years talking about who they lost, they are ALLLL actors???!!! Its just more trouble than its worth! Why do with more what could be done with less?? WHY
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900
Again, I am talking about proof of the passengers from the planes. Not the employees of the WTC.
muzicmaker2001 6 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Oh, I thought you were saying the employees were faked too. Yeah, I don't know about those people, only a handful are listed on the Social Security Death Registrar, and very little of the money was claimed by the families. The theory that I found most likely, the one proposed in a sumposium I cant remember the name of, was that there were less people than stated, the oxygen was cut off, they passed out, and the RC took over.
Stillwater900 6 months ago