I hope the longsworder in this clip has learnt how to use the weapon by now, as that was absolute tripe! seemed he was using the longsword as a katana or what have you! and with zero footwork required in longsword..
well.. too many stabs.. not much real cuts.. plus those little jumps you BOTH do every SECOND realy is annoying. try to be relax, atleast from the outside.. either then that it looked pretty good for sparring
ummm, well, i'm just studying sword right now, and i haven't done all this research you guys have, but I do know that you CAN block with a katana. you simply use the flat side of the blade. But I also know that a little over 75%(or something like that) amount of sword bouts ends in mutual kill. I've been taught that the japanese warriors focussed more on striking the apponant that blocking though. IDK, just thought i'd add my two cents in:P
The longsword user should study some German combat manuals on the subject of fighting. Half-swording could be very effective against a katana/bokken user.
The guy with the longsword needs more practice. He's moving too much. The sword and his body. Also I see a lot of the times he's letting one hand go of the sword. The only time that should happen is if he is in close and grappling his opponent (aka ringen am schwert) reaching to grab the blade of his sword to use halfsword techniques. His pflug position could use some work too. Along with incorporating other guards into his personal fighting style.
the katana is the strongest sword in the world for its size, the european and german longswords were meant to be used with a shield, the katana was always meant for offensive and defensive fighting styles, cause the samurai never used shields, so the katana would have to be pretty strong, im not saying they wouldnt be damaged, but they would take damage better than any double edged sword
Along with the Quillons would offer alot of protection to a Katana's attack, as they seemed to start nearly always with an overhead slash. Its a good match up, but the Katana would likely lose in the end.
Also, yes Ronin, the blade would be ruined. The Katana was meant to make a nice clean slice through an opponet. European swords were hacking and cleaving, thus most were "dull", but were meant to cleave off limbs and break bones, ect, and things among that nature.
European sword fighting for sword and shield and likely with a 2 hander was to deliver a attack to the left shoulder, right shoulder, and then the left again. This gauranteed if it hit, would cause serious damage..
Also, a 2 handed sword such as the zweihander was realistically 6 lbs at the balance point. At the handle there WAS a counterweight you know :P.
I don't know where you are getting this idea from Ufaldaebohha, as the manuscripts I have worked from (I.33, bits of Ringeck) clearly show a far more sophisticated set of techniques than the simple and inefficient ones you suggest.
And I have an idea that you may be slightly over-estimating the weight of the 2hander. 1hands are 2-3lb, 1.5hnd 3-4lb, 2hand 4-5lb from memory, although Ican't provide a reference text for that offhand.
Indeed. The European sword arts are the equal of any sword art developed anywhere. A typical longsword or bastard sword weighs between 2.5 and 3.5 lbs. Zweihanders around 5-6, IIRC.
More importantly, he's not doing anything that resembles German longsword. The opponent stands there in an Ochs-type stance, and he bounces in Pflug without launching the appropriate Meisterhau to break the guard and force the opponent to defend. He moves straight in, not around to the side as he should. I suspect he is a beginner, in which case, kudos to him for sparring. Also, they might be having the head off-limits as a target (no masks), and that is the PRIME target.
I'm not really too seasoned of a kendoka, but on some of the attacks why not have the bokken hold down the back of the longsword, then "cut" up toward the chest/neck? It seems an effective counter, especially since the longsword's weight would put it at a disadvantage.
As a kendoka you should know there are very few blocks in kendo. Fights between samurai ended in half a second and weapons almost never made physical contact with on another. If anything the limited contact was in a tap to the side, or a shoulder guard allowing the enemy's weapon to slide along the flat of the blade before delivering a counterstrike.
I'm sorry but you cannot compare a longsword, a weapon meant to clash, against a katana that is a finely tuned cutting edge. On the initial blade vs.blade impact the katana would probably be destroyed. If indeed you practiced as true samurai did you would have avoided any clash of blades and waited for him to screw up before making your kill. All you guys are doing is sparring with a pair of sticks, not representing your style.
You speak of katanas as if made of rice paper. Although I agree that the katana would be damaged, the extent to which it is true hinges on a number of things, namely how much give the katana has as to the force of the longsword, and what materials either are made of. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by destroyed...?
I mean should it make blade on blade contact with a German longsword its cutting edge would be ruined. Katanas are brilliant weapons. But they aren't meant to clash with other weapons.
where did you get your information? the katana was always meant for blade on blade contact cause they're the strongest swords in the world for their size, thats why the samurai never used shields, they figured that your sword should be capable of both offense and defense, and the spine of a katana wasnt that soft, you cant use the flat side of a double edge sword to block without severe damage
katana never used for blade on blade contact. it might happen, but samurai always tried to hit\cut the enemy and not his sword. there's no a school in Japan teaching to do this stupid action - deffence, especially with katanas blade on blade. the whole technics of omote in katori shinto ryu has NO a block for enemy's sword. samurai didn't use shield for katana is a TWO hand sword. the samurai couldn't help himself with the THIRD hand to keep a shield.
I've watched enough koryu kenjutsu to know there is blade to blade contact. It uses many of the same priciples of German longsword (which I study). Now if you can hit your opponent outright, so much the better. However, usually you defend with an attack of your own which must intercept the incoming attack and hit the opponent at the same time. Look for clips of koryu sword arts here and you will see all kinds of techniques, some with blade contact and some without. :)
massive blocks sword on sword are totally bullshit no matter which weapon you use! you try to use the flat but you dont try to stay against a heavy cut, you let the weapon of the enemy slice down your flat or use your edge on the enemys flat to bring his weapon out of line.
the most useful and basic technic you always use, no matter what you also do, is to get away from the line of the cut or blow!
in almost every medieval and early modern fighting books you can see this and also in the russian martial art "systema", which still today knows and includes the fighting with european weapons, you can see this way of fighting.
and also every aikido fighter who uses katanas, uses the flat of the weapon.
I've read and heard that a katana gets it's amazing slicing ability from making the sharp edge very hard which is a katanas glory as well as it's bane (wrong word?). The harder steel gets, the more brittle it is, and that makes a danger for katanas. They do have a soft, flexible spine to keep the whole sword from breaking on contact, but if the edge did strike another piece of metal with sufficient force, it could easily get a nice ding in it. Maybe that's what they're talking about.
Actually on the first clash of the blades the katana would be severely damage. Secondly a katana relies on a cutting attack where as a long sword is a hacking weapon. If you pay attention their both hacking. Since the german longsword is way heavier then a katana the damage to the katana wielder would be more severe.
"A german longsword is way heavier then a katana..." really? Do you have any proof of this? Also the correct work is "than" not "then" in this context.
Yes..Actually I do. I've held both swords and both were authenticated...so yes. Now truth be told the both weapons have variable weight depending on the materials used and the style of sword-making at the time but over an unbiased scale of time the German longsword inevitably proves to be heavier then the katana. Mostly because of the design specs but also based simply on the amount of metal used. and than* sry.
In fact the complete opposite: They state that both feet are to be flat on the ground like a castle. More reading on fighting masters - I think - is needed. Ringdecker,Albrecht Dürer, Gladiatori and later Marazo and Cappa Ferro
yes one and the same and if you dont believe me just go to the arma page (the association of renaissance matial arts) look in historical manuals it should be on the right hand side.
I like the comparison of bokken against a hand and a half broad sword - two weapons that would never have met and two fighting styles that would never have met. The only real thing that is bugging me is the bouncing on the balls of the feet: This is purly eastern fighting and is never mentioned in western fighting manuals.
Yes, yes. One has to focus on technique and control when sparring without protection. Even with protection, one must be careful when sparring with wood.
Some comments - this Vid shows the first sparring, we did with Bokken vs. Longsword - we left the protections off, as no helmet or glove would stop the force of an oak bokken. To keep intention up whilst controling the weapon to not destroy the partner is more difficult, as it might look like.
The bokken wielder has to keep pulling the sword back to get into a position to strike (mostly weak strikes), leaving him vulnerable to nachreisen counter-strikes (i.e. at the moment he "winds up). This is due to using the plow almost exclusively. Fight way more from the roof, tail, etc.
Footwork needs serious remediation. The bounce has been mentioned, but beyond that it's not co-ordinated with his strikes at all. The stance is narrow and too high. It's easy to overrun somebody with a narrow stance, put them off balance, displace their weapon, and execute a killing technique. (Yeah, I've have problems with a narrow stance before.)
Need more intent and control.
Give these guys points for having the guts to put themselves on the world stage.
Fun and exciting to watch but I agree that the Longsword player needs to go back and train his foot work. I don't care about the bouncing as much as the fact that he leads with his right foot the entire fight. I see no pasing steps or 'Ideal' stepping at all.
The advantage to the longsword is in its superior reach and the fact it has a superior thrusting component. You can only thrust effectively if you push with your rear foot and steady yourself with your leading foot. The only thing you're accomplishing by bouncing around is wasted energy.
Lahron: I would like to point out the fact that if a guy with a longer weapon is being beaten by a guy with a shorter weapon, then I would not consider that guy's style functional. Traditionally, the longer weapon should have an extreme advantage over the shorter (hence why polearms are the primary weapon of the battlefield). Also, the guy with the longsword seems to not change his guard at all, or use any sort of advanced footwork.
An accurate steel blunt is not heavy. However, one must have good control to prevent injury. (And wear face protection.) If you have control, sparring at half speed (like you do here) is safe.
1.why dont hop or bounce? if you would practise sword 3 times a week, you would know that everybody has his own style and it works!
2.foam swords? *smile* not really realistically. Not in feel and not in actions. naturally we use punt swords in a hard sparring. so whats ur problem??
3. Train hardner? mhh... i think we train more and more intensive than you, guy. would you please show us urself as a 'real' swordsman??
Maybe that is his own style, maybe it works, (doesn't seem so,) but it is not the true longsword style. Maybe you didn't know that there are whole books written on techniques from the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.
Foams swords are more realistic, because one does not have hold back or soften any blows.
I'm not talking about action flex (they suck) You can make foam swords balance and weigh exactly as their steel counterparts. Furthermore, when two wooden swords hit together they bounce off eachother whereas steel will stick for a second then slide off (thus a parry) The covers you put on the foam swords dictates how realistically they react. Don't use steel because you have to pull your blows and can't use full power ( not saying baseball bat swings are the only way to go)
Extremely poor example of longsword. For a start whats all the bouncing about? Longsword is about control and footwork. Remember the aim of fighting is not just to kill your opponent but also to stay alive while doing it. Bit more work required chaps!
It's hard to make a good padded sparring tool, but it will allow for full-speed sparring with head protection. Wasters (wooden practice swords) are good general training and slow-speed sparring like we see here.
The longsword wielder doesn't show any signs of having trained at all. His plow... isn't. He's just holding the waster in front of his body and waving it around, not keeping the point aimed at the face.
These are meant to be useful comments, not ripping on the guy. Keep training!
Whoever was using the long sword your stance is crap and your guard is even worse, whoever was using the bokken, you need to utilize the speed not your ego and seize the long swings of the long sword to disarm him..
xhatakeXkakashix, tx for your valid inputs, we´ll work on it. Pls be aware, that this was the first experiment in mixed sword fight, we did. More to come ...
I hope the longsworder in this clip has learnt how to use the weapon by now, as that was absolute tripe! seemed he was using the longsword as a katana or what have you! and with zero footwork required in longsword..
SwordOwar 2 years ago
I do not see any pflug & vom tag fighting stance on the long sword guy... (Old German names) Thats all he needs to block attacks very easily
255Knights 3 years ago
no one seems to know how to fight with a longsword anymore, they all copy what they see in movies or just make it up as they go along.
loahnuh 2 years ago
says the guy behind the Keyboard!
rehwr 2 years ago
well.. too many stabs.. not much real cuts.. plus those little jumps you BOTH do every SECOND realy is annoying. try to be relax, atleast from the outside.. either then that it looked pretty good for sparring
bigkemp 3 years ago
hehhe pekná dřevárnička :D
rozssy 3 years ago
ummm, well, i'm just studying sword right now, and i haven't done all this research you guys have, but I do know that you CAN block with a katana. you simply use the flat side of the blade. But I also know that a little over 75%(or something like that) amount of sword bouts ends in mutual kill. I've been taught that the japanese warriors focussed more on striking the apponant that blocking though. IDK, just thought i'd add my two cents in:P
Elk2085 3 years ago
jak může někdo dát takovou ostudu na video!!!
uldriksson 3 years ago
The longsword user should study some German combat manuals on the subject of fighting. Half-swording could be very effective against a katana/bokken user.
somedude221 4 years ago
nah half swording pretty much never works vs a bokken.
braytex 4 years ago
The guy with the longsword needs more practice. He's moving too much. The sword and his body. Also I see a lot of the times he's letting one hand go of the sword. The only time that should happen is if he is in close and grappling his opponent (aka ringen am schwert) reaching to grab the blade of his sword to use halfsword techniques. His pflug position could use some work too. Along with incorporating other guards into his personal fighting style.
VandenRipoffStrat 4 years ago
the katana is the strongest sword in the world for its size, the european and german longswords were meant to be used with a shield, the katana was always meant for offensive and defensive fighting styles, cause the samurai never used shields, so the katana would have to be pretty strong, im not saying they wouldnt be damaged, but they would take damage better than any double edged sword
logalogrenn 4 years ago
i always thought that samurai generally fought with spear and bow...
Elearis 2 years ago
yes and no it depends on the erra they also had muskets
Sin1fist 2 years ago
<_<
lol
Elearis 2 years ago
Along with the Quillons would offer alot of protection to a Katana's attack, as they seemed to start nearly always with an overhead slash. Its a good match up, but the Katana would likely lose in the end.
Also, yes Ronin, the blade would be ruined. The Katana was meant to make a nice clean slice through an opponet. European swords were hacking and cleaving, thus most were "dull", but were meant to cleave off limbs and break bones, ect, and things among that nature.
UfalDaeBohha 4 years ago
European sword fighting for sword and shield and likely with a 2 hander was to deliver a attack to the left shoulder, right shoulder, and then the left again. This gauranteed if it hit, would cause serious damage..
Also, a 2 handed sword such as the zweihander was realistically 6 lbs at the balance point. At the handle there WAS a counterweight you know :P.
UfalDaeBohha 4 years ago
I don't know where you are getting this idea from Ufaldaebohha, as the manuscripts I have worked from (I.33, bits of Ringeck) clearly show a far more sophisticated set of techniques than the simple and inefficient ones you suggest.
And I have an idea that you may be slightly over-estimating the weight of the 2hander. 1hands are 2-3lb, 1.5hnd 3-4lb, 2hand 4-5lb from memory, although Ican't provide a reference text for that offhand.
Fivernz 4 years ago
Indeed. The European sword arts are the equal of any sword art developed anywhere. A typical longsword or bastard sword weighs between 2.5 and 3.5 lbs. Zweihanders around 5-6, IIRC.
Kunstdesfechtens 3 years ago
Man what the hell is that guy with longsworddoing??Did he ever fought with a longsword? or any other sword? whyhe is jumping?man he sucks
HelelbenShahar86 4 years ago
More importantly, he's not doing anything that resembles German longsword. The opponent stands there in an Ochs-type stance, and he bounces in Pflug without launching the appropriate Meisterhau to break the guard and force the opponent to defend. He moves straight in, not around to the side as he should. I suspect he is a beginner, in which case, kudos to him for sparring. Also, they might be having the head off-limits as a target (no masks), and that is the PRIME target.
Kunstdesfechtens 4 years ago
I'm not really too seasoned of a kendoka, but on some of the attacks why not have the bokken hold down the back of the longsword, then "cut" up toward the chest/neck? It seems an effective counter, especially since the longsword's weight would put it at a disadvantage.
ronin9520 4 years ago
As a kendoka you should know there are very few blocks in kendo. Fights between samurai ended in half a second and weapons almost never made physical contact with on another. If anything the limited contact was in a tap to the side, or a shoulder guard allowing the enemy's weapon to slide along the flat of the blade before delivering a counterstrike.
iamscoutstfu 4 years ago
WTH is the longsowrd guy doing...he doesn't even has a descent footwork. What? Did he interpret "Fiore" literally???
Chawo 4 years ago
I'm sorry but you cannot compare a longsword, a weapon meant to clash, against a katana that is a finely tuned cutting edge. On the initial blade vs.blade impact the katana would probably be destroyed. If indeed you practiced as true samurai did you would have avoided any clash of blades and waited for him to screw up before making your kill. All you guys are doing is sparring with a pair of sticks, not representing your style.
iamscoutstfu 4 years ago
You speak of katanas as if made of rice paper. Although I agree that the katana would be damaged, the extent to which it is true hinges on a number of things, namely how much give the katana has as to the force of the longsword, and what materials either are made of. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by destroyed...?
ronin9520 4 years ago
srry my comp messed up that was a reply to one of iamscout's previous comments
ronin9520 4 years ago
I mean should it make blade on blade contact with a German longsword its cutting edge would be ruined. Katanas are brilliant weapons. But they aren't meant to clash with other weapons.
iamscoutstfu 4 years ago
where did you get your information? the katana was always meant for blade on blade contact cause they're the strongest swords in the world for their size, thats why the samurai never used shields, they figured that your sword should be capable of both offense and defense, and the spine of a katana wasnt that soft, you cant use the flat side of a double edge sword to block without severe damage
logalogrenn 4 years ago
katana never used for blade on blade contact. it might happen, but samurai always tried to hit\cut the enemy and not his sword. there's no a school in Japan teaching to do this stupid action - deffence, especially with katanas blade on blade. the whole technics of omote in katori shinto ryu has NO a block for enemy's sword. samurai didn't use shield for katana is a TWO hand sword. the samurai couldn't help himself with the THIRD hand to keep a shield.
uruqq 4 years ago
Samurai did use blocks never heard of the word kaishi in Kiri Kaishi.
samuraiofhonor 4 years ago
I've watched enough koryu kenjutsu to know there is blade to blade contact. It uses many of the same priciples of German longsword (which I study). Now if you can hit your opponent outright, so much the better. However, usually you defend with an attack of your own which must intercept the incoming attack and hit the opponent at the same time. Look for clips of koryu sword arts here and you will see all kinds of techniques, some with blade contact and some without. :)
Kunstdesfechtens 3 years ago
massive blocks sword on sword are totally bullshit no matter which weapon you use! you try to use the flat but you dont try to stay against a heavy cut, you let the weapon of the enemy slice down your flat or use your edge on the enemys flat to bring his weapon out of line.
DerKaptain 4 years ago
the most useful and basic technic you always use, no matter what you also do, is to get away from the line of the cut or blow!
in almost every medieval and early modern fighting books you can see this and also in the russian martial art "systema", which still today knows and includes the fighting with european weapons, you can see this way of fighting.
and also every aikido fighter who uses katanas, uses the flat of the weapon.
DerKaptain 4 years ago
I've read and heard that a katana gets it's amazing slicing ability from making the sharp edge very hard which is a katanas glory as well as it's bane (wrong word?). The harder steel gets, the more brittle it is, and that makes a danger for katanas. They do have a soft, flexible spine to keep the whole sword from breaking on contact, but if the edge did strike another piece of metal with sufficient force, it could easily get a nice ding in it. Maybe that's what they're talking about.
Ieyusa 4 years ago
The guy with the german sword is getting his ass kicked.
ILOVESPEED25 4 years ago
Actually on the first clash of the blades the katana would be severely damage. Secondly a katana relies on a cutting attack where as a long sword is a hacking weapon. If you pay attention their both hacking. Since the german longsword is way heavier then a katana the damage to the katana wielder would be more severe.
iamscoutstfu 4 years ago
"A german longsword is way heavier then a katana..." really? Do you have any proof of this? Also the correct work is "than" not "then" in this context.
GrandMasterZ0b 4 years ago 2
Yes..Actually I do. I've held both swords and both were authenticated...so yes. Now truth be told the both weapons have variable weight depending on the materials used and the style of sword-making at the time but over an unbiased scale of time the German longsword inevitably proves to be heavier then the katana. Mostly because of the design specs but also based simply on the amount of metal used. and than* sry.
iamscoutstfu 4 years ago
You are right !If you want to see real masters of
the Longsword search for the Medieval combat
tournament called "Dijon 2007" on this site !
vergil2203 4 years ago
In fact the complete opposite: They state that both feet are to be flat on the ground like a castle. More reading on fighting masters - I think - is needed. Ringdecker,Albrecht Dürer, Gladiatori and later Marazo and Cappa Ferro
wellachia1431 4 years ago
Wait...like...Albrecht Duerer the painter?
fenrirsget 4 years ago
yes one and the same and if you dont believe me just go to the arma page (the association of renaissance matial arts) look in historical manuals it should be on the right hand side.
wellachia1431 4 years ago
@fenrirsget yes him. :) even thouhg this was posted 2 years ago i feel the need to answer your
xtimtimx1198 2 years ago
@fenrirsget question
xtimtimx1198 2 years ago
I like the comparison of bokken against a hand and a half broad sword - two weapons that would never have met and two fighting styles that would never have met. The only real thing that is bugging me is the bouncing on the balls of the feet: This is purly eastern fighting and is never mentioned in western fighting manuals.
wellachia1431 4 years ago
I hope we´ll cross our Bokkens at 26.5. ;)
I think I can learn a lot from you
DerSpartaner 4 years ago
Spartaner - I´m looking foreward to it !
Invitation is out !
zukuru 4 years ago
Yes, yes. One has to focus on technique and control when sparring without protection. Even with protection, one must be careful when sparring with wood.
Best wishes to you all.
rithban 4 years ago
Linear fighting. Side step to create opening in your opponent.
Range is pretty static. No "wrestling at the sword." (You can search for that term; I saw a few good vids here.)
Not trying to spam you guys, just trying to give useful feedback.
rithban 4 years ago
rithban - tx for your feedbacks.
Some comments - this Vid shows the first sparring, we did with Bokken vs. Longsword - we left the protections off, as no helmet or glove would stop the force of an oak bokken. To keep intention up whilst controling the weapon to not destroy the partner is more difficult, as it might look like.
zukuru 4 years ago
We will stay unprotected, but will work on the foodwork and techiques - I wonder about all the
real value adding tips coming accross - who is fighting with a bokken out there - show me your vids!?
There might be a difference between theory and practice - I´m not shure ...
zukuru 4 years ago
The bokken wielder has to keep pulling the sword back to get into a position to strike (mostly weak strikes), leaving him vulnerable to nachreisen counter-strikes (i.e. at the moment he "winds up). This is due to using the plow almost exclusively. Fight way more from the roof, tail, etc.
rithban 4 years ago
Footwork needs serious remediation. The bounce has been mentioned, but beyond that it's not co-ordinated with his strikes at all. The stance is narrow and too high. It's easy to overrun somebody with a narrow stance, put them off balance, displace their weapon, and execute a killing technique. (Yeah, I've have problems with a narrow stance before.)
Need more intent and control.
Give these guys points for having the guts to put themselves on the world stage.
Keep training!
rithban 4 years ago
Fun and exciting to watch but I agree that the Longsword player needs to go back and train his foot work. I don't care about the bouncing as much as the fact that he leads with his right foot the entire fight. I see no pasing steps or 'Ideal' stepping at all.
Djemps 4 years ago
lol that video made my day. Never saw someone bounce so much in a fight. Ha! I think that vid should be renamed as "stick vs bouncing stick".
Come on you're going to make us believe that you actually have some training with those?
sanpilou 4 years ago
The advantage to the longsword is in its superior reach and the fact it has a superior thrusting component. You can only thrust effectively if you push with your rear foot and steady yourself with your leading foot. The only thing you're accomplishing by bouncing around is wasted energy.
Caliburnis 4 years ago
Lahron: I would like to point out the fact that if a guy with a longer weapon is being beaten by a guy with a shorter weapon, then I would not consider that guy's style functional. Traditionally, the longer weapon should have an extreme advantage over the shorter (hence why polearms are the primary weapon of the battlefield). Also, the guy with the longsword seems to not change his guard at all, or use any sort of advanced footwork.
Asaelion 4 years ago
Steel has two heavy disservices: its heavy weight and its
high fees... so i think our version to use punt swords is an acceptable alternative. We don't wanna strike each other as hard as we can
Lahron 4 years ago
An accurate steel blunt is not heavy. However, one must have good control to prevent injury. (And wear face protection.) If you have control, sparring at half speed (like you do here) is safe.
rithban 4 years ago
1.why dont hop or bounce? if you would practise sword 3 times a week, you would know that everybody has his own style and it works!
2.foam swords? *smile* not really realistically. Not in feel and not in actions. naturally we use punt swords in a hard sparring. so whats ur problem??
3. Train hardner? mhh... i think we train more and more intensive than you, guy. would you please show us urself as a 'real' swordsman??
Lahron 4 years ago
Maybe that is his own style, maybe it works, (doesn't seem so,) but it is not the true longsword style. Maybe you didn't know that there are whole books written on techniques from the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.
Foams swords are more realistic, because one does not have hold back or soften any blows.
aeros12 4 years ago
I'm not talking about action flex (they suck) You can make foam swords balance and weigh exactly as their steel counterparts. Furthermore, when two wooden swords hit together they bounce off eachother whereas steel will stick for a second then slide off (thus a parry) The covers you put on the foam swords dictates how realistically they react. Don't use steel because you have to pull your blows and can't use full power ( not saying baseball bat swings are the only way to go)
PvtVoulge 4 years ago
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. STOP HOPPING YOU NOBS! If this is longsword, then I'm Hans Talhoffer. Bad bad bad.
merriebegot 5 years ago 2
Extremely poor example of longsword. For a start whats all the bouncing about? Longsword is about control and footwork. Remember the aim of fighting is not just to kill your opponent but also to stay alive while doing it. Bit more work required chaps!
Snake3yes 5 years ago 2
I suggest using foam swords, they allow better feel and react more realistically.
PvtVoulge 5 years ago
Or for realism why not try steel? Plenty of groups do it.
WMAAHF 4 years ago
It's hard to make a good padded sparring tool, but it will allow for full-speed sparring with head protection. Wasters (wooden practice swords) are good general training and slow-speed sparring like we see here.
rithban 4 years ago
Well, whar shall I say.
Train harder !!
THIS should not be shown as "Swordsmanship".
It´s bad.
DerSpartaner 5 years ago
longsword, what kind of guard was that suposed to be?
kelgbarbarian 5 years ago
that was plow and fool maybe a long too
entmage 5 years ago
The longsword wielder doesn't show any signs of having trained at all. His plow... isn't. He's just holding the waster in front of his body and waving it around, not keeping the point aimed at the face.
These are meant to be useful comments, not ripping on the guy. Keep training!
rithban 4 years ago
Whoever was using the long sword your stance is crap and your guard is even worse, whoever was using the bokken, you need to utilize the speed not your ego and seize the long swings of the long sword to disarm him..
xhatakeXkakashix 5 years ago
xhatakeXkakashix, tx for your valid inputs, we´ll work on it. Pls be aware, that this was the first experiment in mixed sword fight, we did. More to come ...
zukuru 5 years ago