This will be used in the future China-India War... Russia will be supplying India with the T50s, China supplying Pakistan with the J20s... it's a shame that Russia and China have split with their military alliance, the future is looking rather messy.
This is one sexy aircraft. Not to troll or anything but The US set the trend and everyone else is currently following. It's one of those things that go back and forth. Russia sends man to space, US sends man to moon.
@kutseena and dont forget the f-22 was cancelled so there producin f-35's now. the f-22 was to costly and the f35 underperforms in comparison to this T-50, or maybe even chinas J-20
@DJPierreNS You shouldn't have gotten shot! "Clever tactics and luck" yeah right, the F117 was shot clean-off and it wasn't the only one from the squadron at that time. At least one more F117 was hit that night, but it managed to turn around and emergency-land in Zagreb airport.
Many of you who are hyping up this new russian jet are forgetting that its still going to take russia awhile to even produce the number of T-50s that they want to actually have a full modern effective airforce. They expect 60 by the year 2016 and thats only IF tests continue to go according to plan which is almost never the case for any new stealth fighter of any kind. Also this isn't the frickin cold war Russia and USA have no reason to go to war with each other any time soon.
Well done India - I am so pleased that a country with 98% of its population living in abject poverty and squalor can spare £19 billion to spend on its Air Force...
Indeed it is, but at the time I wrote the post, Russia had signed a massive deal for the aircraft with India - I'm pretty sure that between their 200+ SU-30's, 70 MiG 29s and 50 Mirage 2000s they've got Pakistan covered...
@pspasaro I hope you realize that buying high-tech fighter jets puts a country in a good economic position. It will push Indian industry to conduct maintenance and it will create business contacts abroad. A country's wealth isn't created by the government giving away money to poor people, it's created by making industries that can make & export products.
@Scandi34 MR AH SORRY WHO EVER YOU ARE I AM VERY SORRY TO SAY THAT FACTS PREACHED BY U ARE ........RUBBISH.1. NOT 98% IS 40% THOUGH THE RATES ARE HIGH THE CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY OUR NEIGHBORS EX CHINA PAKISTAN ARE SUCH THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY HAVE TO BE INVESTED IN HOMELAND SECURITY.HOPE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND ........YOUR INDIAN COUNTERPART...........JAI HIND.
@Scandi34 Man its not about India US or UK .. India has to do that .. you know India has 3 Big enemies near by and they have always proved them they will be enemies till the earth is alive.. Pakistan, China, and Terrorism .. Do watch news man .. u will know . no matter you are poor or rich . when someone attack you please show your back and run away instead fighting for it.. Ok broda.. :)
I see a lot of big talk from some people who haven't checked their history... Fighter jets or race cars, when the machines are relatively a close match it comes down to who's operating them. In case your unaware the FACTS are that U.S. airpower hasn't lost any air combat battles against Russian made jets since the dawn of the jet age! So you can write all the nonsense you like, doesn't change the FACTS!
@NebMV Isn't true. The MiG 15 was very capable against the F86A's and with a good pilot in either seat they were greatly matched. The F86D's and E's however had an easier time against the MiG 15 compared to the A model.
Still the point is to take full advantage of your own jets strenght and force the opponent to fight on your terms - then the fights is yours. In reality it's not about the planes, but the pilots who fly them.
Another prototype are any in service yet the raptor has been since 2005 ..the F15 is still one of the best fighters 30 yrs old and still the second best
F-22 has the 360 on but hate say T-50 is better.... USA are never scared we'll make something better, Russia took what? 2 decades while USA took less we'll bring something out a better mulit-role plus it dosnt matter on the airplane it matter on the pilot and USA pilots train lot. Don't worry about us we started Airplane we'll bring something out
@deathkilloz stop being arrogant....F22 was too expensive and bullshit to maintain... it relied on painting th aircraft after few flights and the stealth was compromised in rain.. which will be the same for T50
As for US pilots being better? stop kiding ... in red flag excercise US Airforce lost extensively to Indian Pilots flying Su30MKI
Just google it...the f-22's have failed cuz they are fuckin expensive to maintain...and have design flaws...u dumb americans dont even know how to google properly
The only nations can afford to buy Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 for export is Brazil, Venezuela, Belarus, Libya, Angola, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia. Syria is never likely able to afford it and Iran is likely to fall from favor.
It's beautiful. It's like the Raptor and the Flanker had a baby. It's good to see that despite the obvious similarities to its American counterparts, it still looks distinctly Russian.
your right this is like the f-22 but much better and the f-35 is not a fifth generation aircraft its just the english harrier jump jet but a brand new american version that probably isnt as good!
That has raptor wannabee written all over it .. imho though you can't take nowt away from that company afterall I do like the su35 it can't be faulted
You would think they would be able to produce something like Firefox ...simply as a piss take .. then all the uber geeks will work up such a frenzy .. everytime .. .
"Oh, by the way, Fart 35 is Yak 141 COPY, piece to Piece!, F-15 is a copy of Mig 25. So much for your creativeness, what a tool!"
Actually, the Mig-25 was a copy of the US A-5 Vigilante which was originally developed to be a nuclear interceptor but used for attack mission with the advent to the SR-71 & B-70. As for the Yak, it was an obvious copy of an F-18, which the F-35 is based off of just like the F-22 is based of an F-15. So much for your "creativeness".
"I am fed up with tools like you come over here and talk about rivets. Here is the horror reality, that Fart -35 n F-22, when they come out of assembly they too have rivets..."
You're so stupid! Even the prototype yf-22 & yf-23 had not a single rivet; that's not stealth moron! Even the way the body sections on the T-50 fit together aren't at an angle; that's not stealth either! Want to talk about the engine exhaust being round too?
T-50 seems to be promised to a bright future cos' it doesn't have defaults F-22has ... In a word, it will be less stealthy but easier to maintain and buy! How will Usaf manage to keep its superiority with so few planes (187 f-22 planed instead of over 6 hundred needed) when f-15 will become rusty? Ok, the f-22 is state of the art concerning stealth technologies but, keep in mind that quantity matters to... T-50 definitely owe many things to Raptor & YF-23 but it still have sukhoi's touch...
Erm, that's assuming the Russian economy can handle it... the real threat to the T-50 is not the F-22... it is Russian politics and bad economic policies.
@rexregum Never underestimate the russians who have demonstrated in the past they could equal or surpass their opponents machines... mig-15 was a bad surprise for the us in Korea... the outdated mig-17 was more than a match for the phantom... Russia just need a strong and wise leadership like the chinese have... something radically different with the lamentable yeltsine years....
@kaleenmar you got a point... F-35 seems to be an acceptable compromise between stealth capacity and affordable mantenance.... but is the JSF a B or C level Raptor? will it be vastly superior to the super-hornett? it seems that american have already spent many money in a supposedly "cheaper Raptor"...
@UncivilizedMan raptor and 35 have its different capabilities and uses, i read some article in the newspaper that some f-35 cpabilities will be put in f22 too. therefore upgrading it and much more cheaper. i will put a link to ur channel
@UncivilizedMan the f-15 is out of service, so it will be rusting. Although f-22 is the best plane out there, maintance and cost of each plane is a big concern and it's really not worth it. Huge quantities will always beat a few qualities. That's what the f-35 is for, a 5th generation plane with stealth capabilitiet that's much cheaper. Don't forget the cheap f-16 and not ot mention the beast f-18 in service already.
Guess whos following the west again? To all the pro Russian supporters, I thought "stealth" didn't work? Your mighty agile Su/Mig's look rather absolute now don't they? Funny thing about this vid is that the Russians did the same thing with the Su-27/Mig-29. Both of those aircrafts had elements of US fighters; the fuselage of an f-16, under belly of an F-14, & wings of an F-15. With the T-50, they used the body of an YF-23 and fuselage of an F-22. Look at all the rivets! You call that stealth?
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Am I the only one that thinks that Sukhoi took the forward fuselage of the YF-22 and mated it with the rear fuselage of the YF-23? Three Cheers to Russian Ingenuity! LOLROCKETS!!!
That dioesn't mean that the T-50 isn't an absolute copy of US design & technology. I'm sorry that you're taking this embarrasment against Russia so personally - I guess that drinking vodka like water *does* has it's effects on Russian brains, eh commrade?
The "F22 CRAPTOR" is why the T-50 exists in the first place genious. As for it being "canceled" how that possible when it's been in service for over 5 years now? They stopped production at 187 planes I think. They canceled the initial number or 300+!
Exactly!! Russia isn't a threat to the US and Obama understands this very well.
Cancelling over 90 F-22's and the decision Obama made not to go to the moon only proves that the US has to focus on their problems at home first.
To deal with all the problems Bush left behind.
Things like infrastructure problems, decading neighbourhoods, jobs and most important of all a huge debt! Obama is a wise person who respects others and that is important to get things done in the world.
His "change" is a bad direction for the country to put it mildly. More F-22s would have kept jobs and been a far more useful endeavor than these "stimulus" packages that have been extremely wasteful. We need far more than 150 machines in order to effectively replace aging F-15s.
Just because the current enemy doesn't have any aircraft to worry about doesn't mean we should scrap everything that is not designed to fight enemy infantry. Peace through strength is the best policy.
Don't worry, Russia only plans to build 250 of them for itself and 250 for India. Besides, as a stealth fighter the Sukhoi PAK FA barely qualifies with a radar cross section of .5m^2 compared to the F-35 which has a .0015m^2 cross section or the raptor .00012m^2. An F-35 is more than capable of destroying the Sukhoi PAK FA and an F-22 raptor is overkill. However, vs. 4th generation fighters like the F-15, F-16, etc. the Sukhoi PAK FA has an edge.
Nobody on the US and Russia side have to worry because they wont go to war against each other. Both Russia and the US have said that they want to work together more with their military. Joined military exercises are in the making and i think within a couple of years we will see them having military exercises together. Russia also bought Israeli UAV's wich is a first. These are all good things and more good things will come from this.
You sir are a complete idiot if you only count on Stealth. Stealthfighters can be picked up EASILY by infra-red radars. Do some research. Do you actually know that stealth was developed by a Russian scientist? He said that NOTHING can be 100% stealth. Just one example for you: Rain is the worst nightmare of the Raptor and he will be turned in to tiny little pieces when it comes down to close range combats.
Well I guess the S-400 Triumph is a piece of shit then. Worst nightmare of the United States Army is when the Russians sell these babies to the Iranians.
Confrontations in the air are not just about how small the RCS of an aircraft is.
There is more to it than just that.
EWF could change the balance and Russian fighters have longer range AAM's to target both fighters and more importantly AWACS planes from 400km away. And i certainly wouldn't say that the F-35 is more than capable of destroying PakFa. Studies have shown that it's even doubtful that the F-35 is capable of destroying 4th generation Russian aircraft.
If you are refusing to the Australian Defense Department's simulator in which F-35's were defeated by Su-27's that has been discredited. Believe me I read reports made by the DOD to Congress. It has been thoroughly proven in almost every way that an F-35 is superior to all existing 4th and 4.5 gen. fighters
Not only the Australian findings. More countries have concern about it's true abilities. I'm Dutch and the we get the F-35 also but i hope not because the F-35 is just too freaking ugly lol!! For me it's the most ugly modern fighter. And chances are that i'm gonna see it fly daily in the near future. Not something to look forward to!
Every time a fighter is sold to many countries great concern over its capabilities are to be expected. The F-16 is one example now over 4,000 have been built. However, there is a "golden mean" to the amount in which one should worry about this. Lockheed Martin produces very high quality aircraft and it would be odd for them to produce a bad fighter with so many sales at stake. The vast majority of credible sources indicate they F-35 is superior to 4th gen fighters. But I know what you mean.
If you have credible sources that indicate other wise I'd love to see them. I always try to see both perspectives before determining my stance. I am opposed to broad bias statements reflecting ones nationalism and or patriotism that are likely not based on fact. As you''ve probably seen Youtube is filled with them on these types of videos. I try and tell people what I know is true as I have read a lot about the history of warfare. I totally respect your view.
Because i didn't get a mail about your comment. My countries military analists have doubts about the F-35 for years already but Politicians have the last word in this and when looking at the past i think we will get the F-35.
Did anyone else happen to notice the all moving horizontal stabs?
I don't know how stealthy the thing will be (probably better than what they have but certainly not F-22 or JSF level) but when they put their thrust vectoring nozzles on that bird, I'm betting it should make for an interesting ride.
I'm not arguing that it makes for a sharp looking aircraft. I'd love to see it in person. But I sincerely doubt that T-50 has the same level of stealth that the F-22 or F-35 have. In fact I'd bet a weeks pay that the T-50 isn't even close.
@bnther36 as far as i've heard nobody from Sukhoi claim its stealthiness to be the same as f22 . but hey, f22 is in no way as maneuverable as this. i'm sure pakfa can see raptor with the same success as raptor would see pakfa
Either way, the fact is this: if the russians decided for this shape, it's more than obvious that "stealth" WORKS...F-22 is not a piece of junk at all! Thinking of japanese ATDX or chinese J-XX, or the german concept from 20 years ago...
Except for he classic wings and horizontal tails, this russian kick ass "semi...stealth" prototype is tributary to YF-23...did you notest that parashutes are in front of a...back RADAR in the central back pillar?
Test pilot says basicly "Test went all normal, according to plan. Took off and landed with ease"
Mr. Pogosyan (I guess thats him - head of "Sykhoi" Engineering Beraeu) at the end of the video :" This is a new generation of aircraft, it is a huge breakthrough for Russian Aviation" his general idea
The Pak-Fa has similarities with YF-23, SU-27 series, Mig 1.44 and F-22. People calling it a copy is ridiculous because in order to obtain stealth all stealth planes need to have a certain shape. PakFa is a great mix of these aircraft and still has it's own character.
they ve not yet given up the tradition of tossing the test pilot in Post USSR - Russia.... Reminds me of the the wings of the red star Documentary....
The F-22 is not combat ready yet. It entered service 9 years after it was supposed to and that was rushed anyways. T-50 is expected to be combat-ready in 2013. The Russians had a financial depression during the 1990s that was 2-3 worse than the US Great Depression. Not fucking bad, I must say.
And no, the F-22 isn't that great. It's trash. It gets beat by F-16Cs in mock-up battles. That's pathetic.
Obviously by 2 F-16s at once. But still, the F-16 is no match for even Chinese fighter planes, nevermind the "great" F-22.
Also by the F-18. The excuse is that its "stealth wasn't working." I don't know what that means when the stealth relies on the airframe structure, but the Pentagon will try to save face when it comes to upholding their massive propaganda campaigns of weapons that can be easily defeated by Russian SAMs and airborne ECM and even now usage of EMP on fighters.
The most naive thing though is people think the shitty export monkey models Russia and the former USSR sell to other countries comes anywhere near the variants actually used by the Russian military. For example, the T-72B is probably better than any NATO tank to this day. However, T-72M (an export model) probably comes close to a T-55 in effectiveness. Russian planes are far more heavily invested with ECM and other forms of EWF than perhaps even dedicated EWF planes are. Now a stealth fighter ;)
(cont.) Hands down, a functional, combat-ready F-22, of which I hope there's at least a few, can defeat a MiG-29SMT or Su-27SM by BVR. But, what if the Raptor's stealth is not what it is claimed to be the Su-27 or MiG-29 can see the Raptor before the Raptor can fire? That means the MiG/Su has longer range missiles, better ECM, and far better maneuverability, and then the F-22 is screwed by these fighters that cost less than a 10th as much (F-22 now exceeds $350 million according to GAO).
This plane is universal, the radar олс50м gives приемещество before raptopr and f35 two 30мм guns, attacks some the air and land purposes simultaneously, all processes are as much as possible automated!
First they destroyed the USSR (incidentally destroying the entire infrastructure), and then another and wonder why we did 5-generation plane just now. Swear Americans live somewhere not on planet Earth)))
You mean ameria is 20 years behing talking about aircrafts and missiles and general issues of stability and control...trust me that's what my master is about...
Udevitelno, kak eto rusna obnalas s kavkazcem armaninom Pogosyanom?!?!?! Oni ih vseh churkami schitayut, etogo nemojet byt!!! Oni naverno repetirovali mnogo, chtob beshenniy ruskiy pilot nenabrosilsa na armanina s krikom UMRI GNIDA CHERNOJOPAYA!))))
What superiority? Russian aircraft are simpler to maintain, and in most cases more maneuverable. If that was enough to win, the F-15 may someday have a combat loss to another fighter.... but I doubt it.
Vertical stabilizers (vertical tails) are fully movable as at Tu-160, the big distance and inclination of vertical tails - MiG-1.44, wide arrangement of engines - Su-35... Beauty!!!
LOOOK UNDER THE PLANE why do you think all stealth planes are flat on the botom, because the round edges reflect radar and thats not all, this planes engines are exposed and egines get hot meaning there is no stealth in this plane
This is rubbish and has been discarded in every credible aviation forum out there. Would you really think the Russians are again fielding a supposed 5th gen. fighter with RCS comparable to old Mig-21's??? Face it, it's Stealth and possibly at least, as much as F-35
@lape2002 id say its stealth is as good as a giant flying mountain ITS NOT STEALTH WHATS WRONG WITH THEM there are rivets sticking out the underside is bulging with intakes and the engines are exposed
ive been wondering why all russian planes have parachutes to slow them down and not american planes. are the ruskies to lazy to put brakes on....or is that unneeded weight.
While you're all bickering at each other about US vs. Russia, both of your governments are quietly fucking you in the ass with Global Warming hysteria, Cap & Trade and the rest... but hey, why bother with that? :)
list of the countries who can afford PakFa, includes in the first place those, who already use Soviet/Russian fighters in AF and want generation upgrade. It could be Belorussia, Kazakhstan, Venezuela, Algeria, Malaysia, Libya and in some circumstances Iran
second line, if economically improved, the follow states could become T-50's customers too: Myanmar, Indonesia, Syria, Serbia and even Ukraine
China has zero chance to be allowed for T-50 import for obvious reasons
This will be used in the future China-India War... Russia will be supplying India with the T50s, China supplying Pakistan with the J20s... it's a shame that Russia and China have split with their military alliance, the future is looking rather messy.
LeClassics 6 months ago
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nishikesh007 6 months ago
it looks like cfa-44 from ace combat 6
generallee011 8 months ago
This is one sexy aircraft. Not to troll or anything but The US set the trend and everyone else is currently following. It's one of those things that go back and forth. Russia sends man to space, US sends man to moon.
kutseena 1 year ago
@kutseena and dont forget the f-22 was cancelled so there producin f-35's now. the f-22 was to costly and the f35 underperforms in comparison to this T-50, or maybe even chinas J-20
GladiusDidimus 10 months ago
how about thanking your brother nation Serbia for downing that F117 in 1999?
:-) I'm pretty sure that we partitipated in creating this plane with those fallen parts :-)
DJPierreNS 1 year ago 3
@DJPierreNS You shouldn't have gotten shot! "Clever tactics and luck" yeah right, the F117 was shot clean-off and it wasn't the only one from the squadron at that time. At least one more F117 was hit that night, but it managed to turn around and emergency-land in Zagreb airport.
bttp011 1 year ago
As a Yankee American, I have to say that is one sexy aircraft!
slayerd81 1 year ago 2
Is not such a heavy oily steamship like the F-22
cyberOwwwOecho 1 year ago
That is a beautiful airplane
pulsejet1 1 year ago
Many of you who are hyping up this new russian jet are forgetting that its still going to take russia awhile to even produce the number of T-50s that they want to actually have a full modern effective airforce. They expect 60 by the year 2016 and thats only IF tests continue to go according to plan which is almost never the case for any new stealth fighter of any kind. Also this isn't the frickin cold war Russia and USA have no reason to go to war with each other any time soon.
acepilot121 1 year ago
Woot!
pktfan1289 1 year ago
Well done India - I am so pleased that a country with 98% of its population living in abject poverty and squalor can spare £19 billion to spend on its Air Force...
Scandi34 1 year ago 20
@Scandi34 actually we could have spared a lot more...
dushyantdar 1 year ago
@Scandi34 Um.... this was Russia.
FantasticBob7000 1 year ago
@FantasticBob7000
Indeed it is, but at the time I wrote the post, Russia had signed a massive deal for the aircraft with India - I'm pretty sure that between their 200+ SU-30's, 70 MiG 29s and 50 Mirage 2000s they've got Pakistan covered...
pspasaro 1 year ago
@pspasaro I hope you realize that buying high-tech fighter jets puts a country in a good economic position. It will push Indian industry to conduct maintenance and it will create business contacts abroad. A country's wealth isn't created by the government giving away money to poor people, it's created by making industries that can make & export products.
FantasticBob7000 1 year ago
@Scandi34 MR AH SORRY WHO EVER YOU ARE I AM VERY SORRY TO SAY THAT FACTS PREACHED BY U ARE ........RUBBISH.1. NOT 98% IS 40% THOUGH THE RATES ARE HIGH THE CIRCUMSTANCES CREATED BY OUR NEIGHBORS EX CHINA PAKISTAN ARE SUCH THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY HAVE TO BE INVESTED IN HOMELAND SECURITY.HOPE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND ........YOUR INDIAN COUNTERPART...........JAI HIND.
pro0047 7 months ago
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@Scandi34 Man its not about India US or UK .. India has to do that .. you know India has 3 Big enemies near by and they have always proved them they will be enemies till the earth is alive.. Pakistan, China, and Terrorism .. Do watch news man .. u will know . no matter you are poor or rich . when someone attack you please show your back and run away instead fighting for it.. Ok broda.. :)
nishikesh007 6 months ago
I see a lot of big talk from some people who haven't checked their history... Fighter jets or race cars, when the machines are relatively a close match it comes down to who's operating them. In case your unaware the FACTS are that U.S. airpower hasn't lost any air combat battles against Russian made jets since the dawn of the jet age! So you can write all the nonsense you like, doesn't change the FACTS!
Harder2Thrill 1 year ago
@Harder2Thrill Oh, dude just remember Korean war, when Russian pilots were in Mig-15. Your Sabres don't have any chance against them.
NebMV 1 year ago
@NebMV Isn't true. The MiG 15 was very capable against the F86A's and with a good pilot in either seat they were greatly matched. The F86D's and E's however had an easier time against the MiG 15 compared to the A model.
Still the point is to take full advantage of your own jets strenght and force the opponent to fight on your terms - then the fights is yours. In reality it's not about the planes, but the pilots who fly them.
Gripen90 1 year ago
Another prototype are any in service yet the raptor has been since 2005 ..the F15 is still one of the best fighters 30 yrs old and still the second best
bmwnasher 1 year ago
F-22 has the 360 on but hate say T-50 is better.... USA are never scared we'll make something better, Russia took what? 2 decades while USA took less we'll bring something out a better mulit-role plus it dosnt matter on the airplane it matter on the pilot and USA pilots train lot. Don't worry about us we started Airplane we'll bring something out
For now just watch North Korea
deathkilloz 1 year ago
@deathkilloz stop being arrogant....F22 was too expensive and bullshit to maintain... it relied on painting th aircraft after few flights and the stealth was compromised in rain.. which will be the same for T50
As for US pilots being better? stop kiding ... in red flag excercise US Airforce lost extensively to Indian Pilots flying Su30MKI
weaponofsex 1 year ago
Just google it...the f-22's have failed cuz they are fuckin expensive to maintain...and have design flaws...u dumb americans dont even know how to google properly
ammakichutt 1 year ago
The only nations can afford to buy Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 for export is Brazil, Venezuela, Belarus, Libya, Angola, Vietnam, and Saudi Arabia. Syria is never likely able to afford it and Iran is likely to fall from favor.
XXM1T90XX 1 year ago
oh yeah......americans are really pissed offfff
sireAndracottus 1 year ago
the f22 is done for......now the russia and india has both the best non stealth fighters---su 30 mki & su 35 bm as well as the best stealth fighter
i can smell american piss
sireAndracottus 1 year ago
It's beautiful. It's like the Raptor and the Flanker had a baby. It's good to see that despite the obvious similarities to its American counterparts, it still looks distinctly Russian.
rossmum 1 year ago
the f 22 is done for,and the f 35 is a piece of junk
sireAndracottus 1 year ago
@sireAndracottus
your right this is like the f-22 but much better and the f-35 is not a fifth generation aircraft its just the english harrier jump jet but a brand new american version that probably isnt as good!
thomasgellender 1 year ago
That looks a lot like the YF-23 lol.
venturi117 1 year ago
FINALLY AFTER SO MANY YEARS... gosh!
rexregum 1 year ago
@rexregum better later than never... anyway the t-50 prototype is a superb machine... with a promising future, no doubt about that...
UncivilizedMan 1 year ago
meehany guys want to chat i feel sooo lonely
CareeLamberte4 2 years ago
That has raptor wannabee written all over it .. imho though you can't take nowt away from that company afterall I do like the su35 it can't be faulted
You would think they would be able to produce something like Firefox ...simply as a piss take .. then all the uber geeks will work up such a frenzy .. everytime .. .
colintraveller 2 years ago
as expected from a british moron!
MrTheaterjunkee 1 year ago
hermoso avion de los rusos
ya quiero un model kit escala 1 32 para armarlo y tenerlo a lado del f 22 jajajaj
davidlucasfer 2 years ago
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@bhartha2007
"Oh, by the way, Fart 35 is Yak 141 COPY, piece to Piece!, F-15 is a copy of Mig 25. So much for your creativeness, what a tool!"
Actually, the Mig-25 was a copy of the US A-5 Vigilante which was originally developed to be a nuclear interceptor but used for attack mission with the advent to the SR-71 & B-70. As for the Yak, it was an obvious copy of an F-18, which the F-35 is based off of just like the F-22 is based of an F-15. So much for your "creativeness".
Greed4Speed 2 years ago
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@bhartha2007
"I am fed up with tools like you come over here and talk about rivets. Here is the horror reality, that Fart -35 n F-22, when they come out of assembly they too have rivets..."
You're so stupid! Even the prototype yf-22 & yf-23 had not a single rivet; that's not stealth moron! Even the way the body sections on the T-50 fit together aren't at an angle; that's not stealth either! Want to talk about the engine exhaust being round too?
Greed4Speed 2 years ago
T-50 seems to be promised to a bright future cos' it doesn't have defaults F-22has ... In a word, it will be less stealthy but easier to maintain and buy! How will Usaf manage to keep its superiority with so few planes (187 f-22 planed instead of over 6 hundred needed) when f-15 will become rusty? Ok, the f-22 is state of the art concerning stealth technologies but, keep in mind that quantity matters to... T-50 definitely owe many things to Raptor & YF-23 but it still have sukhoi's touch...
UncivilizedMan 2 years ago 9
Erm, that's assuming the Russian economy can handle it... the real threat to the T-50 is not the F-22... it is Russian politics and bad economic policies.
rexregum 1 year ago
@rexregum Never underestimate the russians who have demonstrated in the past they could equal or surpass their opponents machines... mig-15 was a bad surprise for the us in Korea... the outdated mig-17 was more than a match for the phantom... Russia just need a strong and wise leadership like the chinese have... something radically different with the lamentable yeltsine years....
UncivilizedMan 1 year ago
@rexregum Russians and Indians are making it together
so dont worry about Russian economy or their polotics.... it going the right way and is a kick ass plane
weaponofsex 1 year ago
@UncivilizedMan dont forget about the f-35
kaleenmar 1 year ago
@kaleenmar you got a point... F-35 seems to be an acceptable compromise between stealth capacity and affordable mantenance.... but is the JSF a B or C level Raptor? will it be vastly superior to the super-hornett? it seems that american have already spent many money in a supposedly "cheaper Raptor"...
UncivilizedMan 1 year ago
@UncivilizedMan raptor and 35 have its different capabilities and uses, i read some article in the newspaper that some f-35 cpabilities will be put in f22 too. therefore upgrading it and much more cheaper. i will put a link to ur channel
kaleenmar 1 year ago
@UncivilizedMan the f-15 is out of service, so it will be rusting. Although f-22 is the best plane out there, maintance and cost of each plane is a big concern and it's really not worth it. Huge quantities will always beat a few qualities. That's what the f-35 is for, a 5th generation plane with stealth capabilitiet that's much cheaper. Don't forget the cheap f-16 and not ot mention the beast f-18 in service already.
keenkennyny 6 months ago
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UncivilizedMan 2 years ago
how many of these can you afford....1
blackout1148 2 years ago
Guess whos following the west again? To all the pro Russian supporters, I thought "stealth" didn't work? Your mighty agile Su/Mig's look rather absolute now don't they? Funny thing about this vid is that the Russians did the same thing with the Su-27/Mig-29. Both of those aircrafts had elements of US fighters; the fuselage of an f-16, under belly of an F-14, & wings of an F-15. With the T-50, they used the body of an YF-23 and fuselage of an F-22. Look at all the rivets! You call that stealth?
Greed4Speed 2 years ago
another copied pice of crap!!!!!!
Inklebonker1 2 years ago
I got both picture of F-22 Raptor & Su-50 PAK FA design in my background.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
whats your purpose here on youtube? and are you really an American? Originally I mean..
What is that Russia did to you personally?
Abanamat85 2 years ago
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Am I the only one that thinks that Sukhoi took the forward fuselage of the YF-22 and mated it with the rear fuselage of the YF-23? Three Cheers to Russian Ingenuity! LOLROCKETS!!!
ScottKin 2 years ago
Please don't post bullshit jealousy you fuckhead. THE F22 CRAPTOR IS CANCELED!
Ironoff 2 years ago
That dioesn't mean that the T-50 isn't an absolute copy of US design & technology. I'm sorry that you're taking this embarrasment against Russia so personally - I guess that drinking vodka like water *does* has it's effects on Russian brains, eh commrade?
ScottKin 2 years ago
@Ironoff
The "F22 CRAPTOR" is why the T-50 exists in the first place genious. As for it being "canceled" how that possible when it's been in service for over 5 years now? They stopped production at 187 planes I think. They canceled the initial number or 300+!
Greed4Speed 2 years ago
why is it called T50 and not SU50?
what does the T stand for?
skydreamerXIII 2 years ago
@skydreamerXIII
cause it's not completed project and it open for any changes.
for example su27 had building index T10.
NebMV 2 years ago 2
Sometimes "prototype", as the USAF's YF- (for example) designation. Flanker prototype was known as T10.
trodat07 2 years ago 2
@tulgok
Exactly!! Russia isn't a threat to the US and Obama understands this very well.
Cancelling over 90 F-22's and the decision Obama made not to go to the moon only proves that the US has to focus on their problems at home first.
To deal with all the problems Bush left behind.
Things like infrastructure problems, decading neighbourhoods, jobs and most important of all a huge debt! Obama is a wise person who respects others and that is important to get things done in the world.
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
Funny how that plane looks similar to the YF-23.
wbball15 2 years ago
@wbball15 Where is the YF-23? Open your eyes!
AleKaban 2 years ago
more russian junk
eee545 2 years ago
The flight of Sukhoi PAK-FA represents the victory of F-22.
Is that simple.
RomaniaTricolor 2 years ago
His "change" is a bad direction for the country to put it mildly. More F-22s would have kept jobs and been a far more useful endeavor than these "stimulus" packages that have been extremely wasteful. We need far more than 150 machines in order to effectively replace aging F-15s.
Just because the current enemy doesn't have any aircraft to worry about doesn't mean we should scrap everything that is not designed to fight enemy infantry. Peace through strength is the best policy.
ReconTeam111 2 years ago 4
I know, what if the day comes...
Some random country gets the PAKFA (probably steals it from Russia)...
And uses it on the USA...
What will you use? F-14s? F-15s? F-18s? F-35s?
F-35 won't even make a scratch on the PAKFA, the F-15/F-14 (if the F-14 returns) might, but their technology is outdated.
The Raptor is the only thing strong enough to fight this...
(I didn't say which aircraft wins or lose, so you propaganda idiots take a hike)
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
Don't worry, Russia only plans to build 250 of them for itself and 250 for India. Besides, as a stealth fighter the Sukhoi PAK FA barely qualifies with a radar cross section of .5m^2 compared to the F-35 which has a .0015m^2 cross section or the raptor .00012m^2. An F-35 is more than capable of destroying the Sukhoi PAK FA and an F-22 raptor is overkill. However, vs. 4th generation fighters like the F-15, F-16, etc. the Sukhoi PAK FA has an edge.
mangler117 2 years ago
Okaaay...................
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
@mangler117
Nobody on the US and Russia side have to worry because they wont go to war against each other. Both Russia and the US have said that they want to work together more with their military. Joined military exercises are in the making and i think within a couple of years we will see them having military exercises together. Russia also bought Israeli UAV's wich is a first. These are all good things and more good things will come from this.
The only war between the two is here on YT lol!
frankyspeaker 2 years ago 2
Wow....
So Ace Combat 5 is coming true.....
In AC5, Osea and Yuktobania joined forces near the end of the war...
And Osea, happens to be the USA in the Ace Combat world... with Yuktobania being Russia/Yugoslavia...
And it's also set on 2010 (this year)...
so.... HOLY.... IT'S COMING TRUE!!! WOOT!
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
@triplepogi2009
On Playstation??
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
PS2, yep
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
@triplepogi2009
That's awesome it's on PS 2!! I don't have a PS 3 yet but only a PS2! I love to play ace combat!
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
Well, I have no PS2-yet... I heard they still sell it in the Philippines (and indeed, I saw about 50 PS2s and over 300 games in different stores).
As for AC5... I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE!!!!
But, I know the story.
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
@triplepogi2009
I only see the Ace Combat 5's i already know.
The Unsung War
Squadron Leader
The Belkan War
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
BTW, it's called "Ace Combat", AC5 is "The Unsung War" in the USA while it is "Squadron Leader" on Europe.
As for Belkan War... It's Ace Combat Zero, although, it was mentioned in AC5 as "the war 15 years ago"...
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
@triplepogi2009
I know it's called Ace Combat.
I wrote that lol!
Different international titles!
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
@triplepogi2009
I just read that Ace Combat 6 Fires of Liberation
is only for Xbox 360.
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
Thanks for helping me with this man.
Even though I am a HUGE fan of 4.5-5th gen Fighter Jets, mangler117 is a complete retard.
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
@triplepogi2009
You're welcome. It was my pleasure
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
@mangler117
You sir are a complete idiot if you only count on Stealth. Stealthfighters can be picked up EASILY by infra-red radars. Do some research. Do you actually know that stealth was developed by a Russian scientist? He said that NOTHING can be 100% stealth. Just one example for you: Rain is the worst nightmare of the Raptor and he will be turned in to tiny little pieces when it comes down to close range combats.
AdrIneX 2 years ago
lol, I'm afraid sir you have not done YOUR research.
The F-22A has been specifically designed to produce a low heat signature. Low enough that no missile can lock on to. F-35 does not.
mangler117 2 years ago
@mangler117
Well I guess the S-400 Triumph is a piece of shit then. Worst nightmare of the United States Army is when the Russians sell these babies to the Iranians.
AdrIneX 2 years ago
@mangler117
Confrontations in the air are not just about how small the RCS of an aircraft is.
There is more to it than just that.
EWF could change the balance and Russian fighters have longer range AAM's to target both fighters and more importantly AWACS planes from 400km away. And i certainly wouldn't say that the F-35 is more than capable of destroying PakFa. Studies have shown that it's even doubtful that the F-35 is capable of destroying 4th generation Russian aircraft.
It's not easy.
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
If you are refusing to the Australian Defense Department's simulator in which F-35's were defeated by Su-27's that has been discredited. Believe me I read reports made by the DOD to Congress. It has been thoroughly proven in almost every way that an F-35 is superior to all existing 4th and 4.5 gen. fighters
mangler117 2 years ago
@mangler117
Not only the Australian findings. More countries have concern about it's true abilities. I'm Dutch and the we get the F-35 also but i hope not because the F-35 is just too freaking ugly lol!! For me it's the most ugly modern fighter. And chances are that i'm gonna see it fly daily in the near future. Not something to look forward to!
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
Every time a fighter is sold to many countries great concern over its capabilities are to be expected. The F-16 is one example now over 4,000 have been built. However, there is a "golden mean" to the amount in which one should worry about this. Lockheed Martin produces very high quality aircraft and it would be odd for them to produce a bad fighter with so many sales at stake. The vast majority of credible sources indicate they F-35 is superior to 4th gen fighters. But I know what you mean.
mangler117 2 years ago
@frankyspeaker
If you have credible sources that indicate other wise I'd love to see them. I always try to see both perspectives before determining my stance. I am opposed to broad bias statements reflecting ones nationalism and or patriotism that are likely not based on fact. As you''ve probably seen Youtube is filled with them on these types of videos. I try and tell people what I know is true as I have read a lot about the history of warfare. I totally respect your view.
mangler117 2 years ago
mangler117,
Did you react directly to my comment?
Because i didn't get a mail about your comment. My countries military analists have doubts about the F-35 for years already but Politicians have the last word in this and when looking at the past i think we will get the F-35.
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
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@mangler117
It would be odd indeed but we have seen it before with the F-104 star fighter in the past.
"But I know what you mean."
You think the F-35 is ugly too?? LOL!!
frankyspeaker 2 years ago
давно такого не видано, лётчика с радости подбрасывают... ещё со времён союза...Наконецто чтото новое!
Pravilnost 2 years ago
1:00 Сравните - очень много сходства. Значит ПАК-ФА унаследовал сверхменёвренность от своих предшественников!
Compare and will see a lot of similarity. Means PAK-FA has inherited improbable-manoeuvrability from the predecessors!
DogSmog92 2 years ago
lets see,theres pak fa and fgfa,china is building the j xx and india is building its own MCA,
thats four nails on USA's ass,
boy are they gonna get raped
sireAndracottus 2 years ago
FGFA, hasn't flown, still in design stages.
J-XX, hasn't flown, still in design stages.
MCA, hasn't flown, still in EARLY design stages
PAK-FA, one flight, and still three-five years away from flight duties.
People really need to think before they post.
EvilxMerlin 2 years ago
DANGER!!!
I forsee a...
USA vs Russia Comment War ahead!!!
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
Did anyone else happen to notice the all moving horizontal stabs?
I don't know how stealthy the thing will be (probably better than what they have but certainly not F-22 or JSF level) but when they put their thrust vectoring nozzles on that bird, I'm betting it should make for an interesting ride.
bnther36 2 years ago
u sure? Russia is the country that invented stealth, we should be able to make it nice, dontcha think.
Donetsk777 2 years ago
I'm not arguing that it makes for a sharp looking aircraft. I'd love to see it in person. But I sincerely doubt that T-50 has the same level of stealth that the F-22 or F-35 have. In fact I'd bet a weeks pay that the T-50 isn't even close.
But I'm still loving the aircraft : )
bnther36 2 years ago
@bnther36 as far as i've heard nobody from Sukhoi claim its stealthiness to be the same as f22 . but hey, f22 is in no way as maneuverable as this. i'm sure pakfa can see raptor with the same success as raptor would see pakfa
nazirdjon 2 years ago
man aviation these days is pure science fiction, United States should also develop something new - instead of bombing Kabul (jk dont get mad at me).
Slava Rossii!!
Donetsk777 2 years ago
I don't know about you, guys, but to me, T50 has so many features of YF-23 Black Widow...
The front, the intakes, the vertical tails...and it's cool, probably they took many photos at the YF-23 when it was on display...
:)
RomaniaTricolor 2 years ago
Either way, the fact is this: if the russians decided for this shape, it's more than obvious that "stealth" WORKS...F-22 is not a piece of junk at all! Thinking of japanese ATDX or chinese J-XX, or the german concept from 20 years ago...
Except for he classic wings and horizontal tails, this russian kick ass "semi...stealth" prototype is tributary to YF-23...did you notest that parashutes are in front of a...back RADAR in the central back pillar?
:)
RomaniaTricolor 2 years ago 2
Exactly.
Notice the F-22, PAKFA and ATD/X look the same...
almost
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
wanted to translate some of the voice:
Test pilot says basicly "Test went all normal, according to plan. Took off and landed with ease"
Mr. Pogosyan (I guess thats him - head of "Sykhoi" Engineering Beraeu) at the end of the video :" This is a new generation of aircraft, it is a huge breakthrough for Russian Aviation" his general idea
sorry, too lazy to do word by word )))))
Donetsk777 2 years ago
250 ordered already each by Russia and India ))))))\
Best fighter in the world baby ))))
Donetsk777 2 years ago
The Russians use the F-22 design right?
And the japanese are using it for the ATD/X as well.
Just goes to show, the F-22/YF-23/F-35 design standards do work...
But, they still need originality... hence the back part.
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
triplepogi2009,
The Pak-Fa has similarities with YF-23, SU-27 series, Mig 1.44 and F-22. People calling it a copy is ridiculous because in order to obtain stealth all stealth planes need to have a certain shape. PakFa is a great mix of these aircraft and still has it's own character.
I think PakFa is stunningly beautiful.
frankyspeaker 2 years ago 2
Fail
RoboTekno 2 years ago
it have the same look at the F-22
adictoalvicio 2 years ago
Nice bird...
peanutbutterblah 2 years ago 2
they ve not yet given up the tradition of tossing the test pilot in Post USSR - Russia.... Reminds me of the the wings of the red star Documentary....
tanmoy2006 2 years ago
it's a show of emotions , those guys worked their asses off for what.. 8 years??? ))). if I'm not mistaken those must the engineers in the crowd.
Donetsk777 2 years ago
i think a 5th gen aircraft is a waste of resources in the present military scenario when there are aircrafts like flanker and its derivatives....
tanmoy2006 2 years ago
Fan boys WTF are w8 for make a coment Ahaha fkg kids talk shit there
factorxitox 2 years ago
lmfao sad thing is f-22 will still be better then this when it hits production The f-22 is 30 years old to. Russia is way behind the US
richyawn3333 2 years ago
The F-22 is not combat ready yet. It entered service 9 years after it was supposed to and that was rushed anyways. T-50 is expected to be combat-ready in 2013. The Russians had a financial depression during the 1990s that was 2-3 worse than the US Great Depression. Not fucking bad, I must say.
And no, the F-22 isn't that great. It's trash. It gets beat by F-16Cs in mock-up battles. That's pathetic.
GoldenZealot21 2 years ago
@GoldenZealot21
F22 beaten by F16C? You believe this?Don't be naive...
RomaniaTricolor 2 years ago
Obviously by 2 F-16s at once. But still, the F-16 is no match for even Chinese fighter planes, nevermind the "great" F-22.
Also by the F-18. The excuse is that its "stealth wasn't working." I don't know what that means when the stealth relies on the airframe structure, but the Pentagon will try to save face when it comes to upholding their massive propaganda campaigns of weapons that can be easily defeated by Russian SAMs and airborne ECM and even now usage of EMP on fighters.
GoldenZealot21 2 years ago
The most naive thing though is people think the shitty export monkey models Russia and the former USSR sell to other countries comes anywhere near the variants actually used by the Russian military. For example, the T-72B is probably better than any NATO tank to this day. However, T-72M (an export model) probably comes close to a T-55 in effectiveness. Russian planes are far more heavily invested with ECM and other forms of EWF than perhaps even dedicated EWF planes are. Now a stealth fighter ;)
GoldenZealot21 2 years ago
(cont.) Hands down, a functional, combat-ready F-22, of which I hope there's at least a few, can defeat a MiG-29SMT or Su-27SM by BVR. But, what if the Raptor's stealth is not what it is claimed to be the Su-27 or MiG-29 can see the Raptor before the Raptor can fire? That means the MiG/Su has longer range missiles, better ECM, and far better maneuverability, and then the F-22 is screwed by these fighters that cost less than a 10th as much (F-22 now exceeds $350 million according to GAO).
GoldenZealot21 2 years ago 2
This plane is universal, the radar олс50м gives приемещество before raptopr and f35 two 30мм guns, attacks some the air and land purposes simultaneously, all processes are as much as possible automated!
aflads 2 years ago
i have to say this is the most beautiful plan
allyasia1983 2 years ago 2
First they destroyed the USSR (incidentally destroying the entire infrastructure), and then another and wonder why we did 5-generation plane just now. Swear Americans live somewhere not on planet Earth)))
ValdByst 2 years ago
Комменты только на американском! Сцыкотно?
MrAlexBlast 2 years ago
:)))))А ТЫ НЕ СЦЫ:))))
aflads 2 years ago
учи. язык врага нужно знать.
vladbis 2 years ago
You mean ameria is 20 years behing talking about aircrafts and missiles and general issues of stability and control...trust me that's what my master is about...
gynaikas 2 years ago
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Udevitelno, kak eto rusna obnalas s kavkazcem armaninom Pogosyanom?!?!?! Oni ih vseh churkami schitayut, etogo nemojet byt!!! Oni naverno repetirovali mnogo, chtob beshenniy ruskiy pilot nenabrosilsa na armanina s krikom UMRI GNIDA CHERNOJOPAYA!))))
tatarinbulka 2 years ago
martogala! well check the horten 229 out and than tell us about who had the first stealth technic!
Spoxwox 2 years ago 3
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The YF22 and YF23 had their first flights in 1990...
Wow... Russia is 20 years behind the US.
Tell me something I didn't know.
Heathh49008 2 years ago
this actually is 5 gen mod 2, because there were mig 1.44 and su-47 in 1990s testing, no matter that they didn't went into production
DanLapko 2 years ago 3
What about the fact, that India badly beat the US air force in a mock battle thanks to it's superior Russian planes ?
Yassum 2 years ago 3
Mock battles?
What superiority? Russian aircraft are simpler to maintain, and in most cases more maneuverable. If that was enough to win, the F-15 may someday have a combat loss to another fighter.... but I doubt it.
Heathh49008 2 years ago
@Heathh49008 Tell me something I didn't know.
You idiot. Buy brains.
AleKaban 2 years ago
I wanna have sex with that plane! ))))
rusbp 2 years ago
5 th generation look licke sexy jet
lepricoun 2 years ago 6
I think so too. This aircraft much better than f-22 in my opinion ;)
SteveMoore241 2 years ago 5
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raymondwong01 2 years ago
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Vertical stabilizers (vertical tails) are fully movable as at Tu-160, the big distance and inclination of vertical tails - MiG-1.44, wide arrangement of engines - Su-35... Beauty!!!
shadowname1 2 years ago
the vertical tiny stabilizers are movable as a whole
nazirdjon 2 years ago
I like how Americans come here to say something negative about T-50, which costs less and gives more abilities.
You can talk whatever you want about copying, this shape is BEST for stealth and nobody have new ideas here.
And it-s just a prototype, we'll wait for new engines.
DremDC 2 years ago 4
LOOOK UNDER THE PLANE why do you think all stealth planes are flat on the botom, because the round edges reflect radar and thats not all, this planes engines are exposed and egines get hot meaning there is no stealth in this plane
Inklebonker1 2 years ago
This is rubbish and has been discarded in every credible aviation forum out there. Would you really think the Russians are again fielding a supposed 5th gen. fighter with RCS comparable to old Mig-21's??? Face it, it's Stealth and possibly at least, as much as F-35
lape2002 2 years ago
@lape2002 id say its stealth is as good as a giant flying mountain ITS NOT STEALTH WHATS WRONG WITH THEM there are rivets sticking out the underside is bulging with intakes and the engines are exposed
FAIL
Inklebonker1 2 years ago
Look at the 5th picture from the top of this link :
w w w .militaryphotos . net/ forums/ showthread. php?101216-F-35-In-Detail
Besides, this is the nude PAK-FA for flying tests, those rivet will have to be smoothed out for RAM and paint coatings.
lape2002 2 years ago
that still leaves the fact that the engines and intakes are exposed and the underbelly is not smooth
Inklebonker1 2 years ago
Эх, Красавец!
Reactor7907 2 years ago
ive been wondering why all russian planes have parachutes to slow them down and not american planes. are the ruskies to lazy to put brakes on....or is that unneeded weight.
BRIANROX1 2 years ago
РОССИЯ ВПЕРЁД!
muskadimakof 2 years ago 2
качай Богдана
:ВВВ
OberGefreiterZ 2 years ago
I love the Eurofighter
but the Sukhoi T-50 is so incredible beautiful
i want see the maneuverability of the Su T-50
and a formation fly
hm... the americans stoped the production of F-22
if they saw this video, they will start the parduction again hehe
5*
i was long waiting to see this plane
Frontkeks 2 years ago
Americans will produce F35.
And they already have 140+ F-22's
Jam1C 2 years ago
Makes you wonder if this is to make Americans spend money on something they do not feel they need.
Beshkardash 2 years ago
While you're all bickering at each other about US vs. Russia, both of your governments are quietly fucking you in the ass with Global Warming hysteria, Cap & Trade and the rest... but hey, why bother with that? :)
prikhod 2 years ago
nice
Nosferatuonline 2 years ago 2
AMAZING !!!
wwwarturasia 2 years ago 2
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list of the countries who can afford PakFa, includes in the first place those, who already use Soviet/Russian fighters in AF and want generation upgrade. It could be Belorussia, Kazakhstan, Venezuela, Algeria, Malaysia, Libya and in some circumstances Iran
second line, if economically improved, the follow states could become T-50's customers too: Myanmar, Indonesia, Syria, Serbia and even Ukraine
China has zero chance to be allowed for T-50 import for obvious reasons
TeslaGenius 2 years ago
Wow. I hope the Russians get that rear end designed properly!
bujoun76 2 years ago
lol even the suchoi-47 could destroy that shitty american f-22 so the f-22 is no enemy for the new T-50...
Beograd0boy 2 years ago
And you're basing this on what?
johnkilo 2 years ago
Your statement is based on the size of your manhood, right?
alex9044 2 years ago
cry F-22 lover cry.lol
SAMTOMAS 2 years ago 3
revived russia
good plane
1981TormentoR 2 years ago 4
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Another Russian ripoff of a western technology.
viol999 2 years ago