All of you guys are like "A V6, WHAT?" Well did you know that Porsche 911's and Carreras are all straight 4 and 6's! The engine is not a big deal and you would know that if you were real motor enthusiasts. Its all about the engineering! It just shows that Audi and Porsche engineers are genius's.
Audi is the greatest and most revolutionary car company in the world they got there starts in rallying where they introduced 4WD and ever since 4WD was the main use in rally cars then they whent to pikes peak where they beat the record 3 times! then they went to Trans Am and IMSA GTO they were to fast they were not allowed to compete in Trans Am again they were to good :D then Touring cars they dominated of course then LeMans they dominated from 2000 to now just to show how Audi are KINGS :D!!!
Can someone please explain to me why these open cockpit LMP1 cars have these twin cowls, one behind the driver (which makes sense) and one behind no one, as though it's made for a passenger that never rides in the car? When I see these the first thing I think is aerodynamic drag. Why not put the driver center with one cowl, like F1.
@trialaxel If that IS a rule it must be tradition. Which is a silly reason for a rule. World class multimillion dollar race cars with a mandated flaw...
Why is it so often that the rule makers just get in the way of racing...
@ursavostock thats just the rules.. for prototypes have been like that for ages.. even back when group c was run, or even before that with the earlyer porsches.. its just been like that for ages..
@ursavostock your ass would be broken before you even got halfway through a journey ... it's a road-legalized race car - hard suspension .. your better off with a convertible
@enteng2366 Just to clarify I'm referring to the aesthetic look of the car. Of course for road driving you would need a different ECM with a more user friendly engine map, softer suspension and a transmission geared for road driving. Imagine an Enzo with the R15's bodywork. A super high performance car with enough electronic controls to make it road friendly so that even the average boob could drive it with only a 50% chance of killing himself.
Audi uses child labor and also audi car is made by polish homeless people. Peugeot made cars for over 450 years and has experience in that. The real winner on Le Mans is Diesel. His full name is probably Vin Diesel.
they band rotors engine in 24 hrs le mans because " its too fking reliable. even after 24hrs lemans its can still run another 36hrs w.o havin problem LOL" the light weight engine 4 rotors produce smoother power then a v12.
@ItalianoSceicco Um lets go higher and see if they made it to F1 ummm no theyr not in the big boys club yet :)) when ever they go to F! and take 1 championship then they could be among the greatest, a loser or a no one like you can say what ever but the fact is BMW will ass rape audi and VW in tech and reliability all day. besides look at bmw sales history and rep and look at your sick horse, look at d 1984 bmw and look at a AUDI or VW if you see any theyr so ugly and useless that no one cares!
@Istarilight17 not entirely true, it depends on the track and setup. on the back straight at lemans, it hits 223. if it was the old lemans circuit with the longer straights, there would be less downforce for the setup, and the car would top out around 230
Agreed - Audi dominated because Peugeot couldn't match Audi's reliability at full 100%, thus causing Peugeot to come up 1-2 hours short of the finish. Audi's new car next year will have to be handling as good as it did this year and match the Peugeot's top speed if it wants to contend without failure on the French lion.
I think the consumers are the true winners of these battles of the frugal and powerful diesel engines. Both Audi and Peugeot use the technology and experience in their diesel roadcars.
Wat about a flat 10 engine. but that nose is kinda bulky. y didnt they make it more aerodynamic??? any1 know these please let me know. either way nice car
A Flat-10 hinders the air flow near the difuser, its too wide. This is a reason, why Alfa and Ferrari didn't used this engines in the early 80s, as their wing car design needed improovment.
The design of the R15 is very good. The aerodynamic could be improoved but this will take time. If there is enough room to get further, they will in the next years. But it is the truth: The Peugeot is so fast, that both car will be head to head in the next years.
this last LM audi was not racing 100% as they were having problems with radiator cooling (tires shreds were blocking the air ducts that lead to the radiator .. there is cleaning system in there that cleans and removes this debris that system was not working properly.. as its said its brand new car.. in its peak r10 should on par or faster then the 908 HDI's on the straights HDI's were recording speeds of 211mph while the r15 was only reaching 205.the r10 last year was recording 209mhp!!!
If you look at the track though thers mostly high speed corners, and the straights probably is the best section to gain some distance between two cars.
I still think that Peugoet got the downforce needed to get around the corners as fast the Audi team.
That would go against what defines F1-cars, which is insane cornering speeds, "out of this world"-brakes, and the difficulty to control traction ecspecially out of slower corners,
and the drivers skills to do all these things with a surgeons precision!!!
None of these will be present on a Indy-like oval!
Instead of ovals in F1 I would like to se more fast corners.
Those 5+ g "necktwisters", and rules that still allow for high conering speed!
correct me if im wrong but i reckon thats and aussie doing the voice over! the one who does voice overs for EVERYTHING like the arishows in aus, war memorials i think he even did the bejing olympics medal presentation for the swimmers!
go audi! and aston martin... if they are still in.
i dont follow 24 hour
123timmers 2 months ago
the following campanies are the ones i dont like anymore. bmw,peugot,porche,ferrari.......
3lcho 3 months ago
horrific looking car!!
DannyBoySmith1993 6 months ago
i ride audi LIKE A BOSS
H8sch00l 7 months ago
TDI's rock!
stanshihcomputers 7 months ago
BMW will own you!!
Lastkraftwagenfahrer 8 months ago
Its funny that a "shity" Diesel owns all :)
RikiJasmin 8 months ago
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IcyViking 8 months ago
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IcyViking 8 months ago
@kikiCar88 Porsche Cayenne diesel? :P
IcyViking 8 months ago
Audi will never reach as many wins as Porsche
jacobdadams96 8 months ago
seeing this car gives me the chills. It brings back the memories of the 1-2-3 last year. So much excitement brought by just one visual.
adulby 8 months ago
All of you guys are like "A V6, WHAT?" Well did you know that Porsche 911's and Carreras are all straight 4 and 6's! The engine is not a big deal and you would know that if you were real motor enthusiasts. Its all about the engineering! It just shows that Audi and Porsche engineers are genius's.
Killzone2freak1028 9 months ago
is age of cars
davidson390 9 months ago
R10 - v12
R15 - v10
R18 - v6
wats up with that? some kinda porsche fever :P
IcyViking 9 months ago
ewwwwwwww diesel fuel of the devil
sarzamineiran 9 months ago
Good car but the fact says:
Fastest lap (le mans) - Team Peugeot Total 2009
Highest average speed - Team peugeot Total 2009
The 908 is more impressive.
boise78600 10 months ago
10 people prefer the old beetle before this
hazer2011 10 months ago
Audi's are beatiful and get my vote before Benz and Beamer but i hear they are Junk plenty of friends have them. I Stick to JAPAN
Prirodnocarstvo 11 months ago
2:13 se kat of tu silinders :D
abuyinGER 11 months ago
Audi is the greatest and most revolutionary car company in the world they got there starts in rallying where they introduced 4WD and ever since 4WD was the main use in rally cars then they whent to pikes peak where they beat the record 3 times! then they went to Trans Am and IMSA GTO they were to fast they were not allowed to compete in Trans Am again they were to good :D then Touring cars they dominated of course then LeMans they dominated from 2000 to now just to show how Audi are KINGS :D!!!
fgtxpaco7458ss 1 year ago
@fgtxpaco7458ss Bentley won in 2003, peogeot won in 2009, and porsche has the most wins overall at le mans.
Sjamsucks 11 months ago
@Sjamsucks ?
fgtxpaco7458ss 11 months ago
@Sjamsucks and??
fgtxpaco7458ss 11 months ago
@Sjamsucks
the Bentley that won in 2003 was based on a Audi design (R8C) powered by 4.0l engine from Audi, in 2003 was no Audi factory team at LeMans.
The Bentley was raced by Team Joest, for marketing reason it was claimed to be a factory race team.
At the end of the day Bentley is owned by VW like Audi...
nagmashot 10 months ago
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Markorepairs 1 year ago
Michelin ???? no BridgeStone ???
ahhanahiii 1 year ago
TDI hhaahhahaha
xapomax 1 year ago
Tom Kristensen You'r the MAN....
pozidon99 1 year ago
need group c back and Japanese car manufacturers. will give the series a lot of competition not just between peaugot and audi -_-
nitroxize 1 year ago
@nitroxize Japanese don't make any decent diesels...
dunti21 1 year ago
turbodiesel ? oO
kenshi187 1 year ago
AUDI FOREVER
dfdtydtydktydftyftgh 1 year ago
they should slap some indicators and brake lights on it and sell it for 10 thousand a piece.
mercedesbenzrules 1 year ago
If Audi ever dissapears from the market, I wouldn't drive any car.... ONLY AUDI
Audi FOREVER!!!
henkdecitroen13 1 year ago
damn, they should have this car in GT 5^^
TheHelicopterHomer 1 year ago
@TheHelicopterHomer Exactly... let's hope for DLC!
Redfnag258 1 year ago
cool
Response166 1 year ago
1:23 Batman's race car xD
cesaricardo1987 1 year ago
don't like diesel
kyberforce 1 year ago
Gotta love that guy's accent from 1:31 ;-) !
Anacinc 1 year ago
they lost le mans this year lol
wololo10 1 year ago
Sebring is pronounced see-bring. Narrator is a moron.
Jeffydomer 1 year ago
epic peugeot 908
msstodea1 1 year ago
why german are german
TheWorldGatekeeper 1 year ago
AUDI FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dfdtydtydktydftyftgh 1 year ago
Audi owns with diesel owning petrol
Weezing77 1 year ago
Interesting technique.
Vycatocom 1 year ago
AUDI: Translation from Latin = Listen
The AUDI V10 in the R15 = Music to my ears
You better believe I'm listening!!!!
JadeEyedWolf 1 year ago 2
what a beautiful machine
NMoulana 1 year ago
Can someone please explain to me why these open cockpit LMP1 cars have these twin cowls, one behind the driver (which makes sense) and one behind no one, as though it's made for a passenger that never rides in the car? When I see these the first thing I think is aerodynamic drag. Why not put the driver center with one cowl, like F1.
ursavostock 1 year ago
@ursavostock Because each car is required to have no fewer than two seats, I think.
trialaxel 1 year ago
@trialaxel If that IS a rule it must be tradition. Which is a silly reason for a rule. World class multimillion dollar race cars with a mandated flaw...
Why is it so often that the rule makers just get in the way of racing...
ursavostock 1 year ago
@ursavostock thats just the rules.. for prototypes have been like that for ages.. even back when group c was run, or even before that with the earlyer porsches.. its just been like that for ages..
fergus1494 1 year ago
I wish these were road cars. I love LMP1 body styling. 2 seater production version on a cruise to the beach or the mountains would be priceless
ursavostock 1 year ago
@ursavostock Even if they made it... you wouldnt be able tu buy it! XD... TOO EXPENSIVE!!!! :P
hiddenangel89 1 year ago
@hiddenangel89 lol I know but I can still dream...
ursavostock 1 year ago
@ursavostock your ass would be broken before you even got halfway through a journey ... it's a road-legalized race car - hard suspension .. your better off with a convertible
enteng2366 1 year ago
@enteng2366 Just to clarify I'm referring to the aesthetic look of the car. Of course for road driving you would need a different ECM with a more user friendly engine map, softer suspension and a transmission geared for road driving. Imagine an Enzo with the R15's bodywork. A super high performance car with enough electronic controls to make it road friendly so that even the average boob could drive it with only a 50% chance of killing himself.
ursavostock 1 year ago
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Another German Masterpiece..
comali2212 1 year ago
Another German Masterpiece..
comali2212 1 year ago
i love it soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much
MegaKickButtowski 1 year ago
my faves have to be pescarolo and audi
transformersprime 1 year ago
french shit can never compete with audi.
dtihkse 1 year ago
Audi uses child labor and also audi car is made by polish homeless people. Peugeot made cars for over 450 years and has experience in that. The real winner on Le Mans is Diesel. His full name is probably Vin Diesel.
sanddune1981 1 year ago
@sanddune1981 Peugeot made cars for over 450 years?!?! you need to re-think that statement.
vaxeh 1 year ago 2
@sanddune1981 idiot!
WeisseKrabbe 1 year ago
Ah yes! Champagnein the eyes... I know what that feels like.
vexviper 1 year ago
is this thing street legal? i want one.
galatasaray710 1 year ago
success success & succes, since appeared, great technology and a powerfull engine even peugeot, bm and mercedez can not eliminate him
SlayerProRR 1 year ago
they can;t handle being a Loser to a 2stroke engine they know theyll NEVER win that y they band its
azndragonx2 1 year ago
they band rotors engine in 24 hrs le mans because " its too fking reliable. even after 24hrs lemans its can still run another 36hrs w.o havin problem LOL" the light weight engine 4 rotors produce smoother power then a v12.
azndragonx2 1 year ago
sh;tty! bunch of loser to mazda 4rotor
azndragonx2 1 year ago
@azndragonx2 mazda sucks.. rotors would have to pit all the time
letmesnitch 1 year ago
Audi 1-2-3 at Le Mans
antkiller13 1 year ago 2
fuck bmw... AUDI & VW RULZ !
ItalianoSceicco 1 year ago 12
@ItalianoSceicco BMW is a piece of shit. TDI rules!
stanshihcomputers 7 months ago
@ItalianoSceicco Um lets go higher and see if they made it to F1 ummm no theyr not in the big boys club yet :)) when ever they go to F! and take 1 championship then they could be among the greatest, a loser or a no one like you can say what ever but the fact is BMW will ass rape audi and VW in tech and reliability all day. besides look at bmw sales history and rep and look at your sick horse, look at d 1984 bmw and look at a AUDI or VW if you see any theyr so ugly and useless that no one cares!
HRG86 7 months ago
@HRG86 Yeah your right Audi should try a hand at F1. Always good to stur the pot.
govenmentassassin 1 month ago
tdi for ever <3 :D
osk4r2909 1 year ago 12
TDi power!
pssste 1 year ago 4
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thespiker100 1 year ago
Audi R15... Yak some ugly... R10 IS THE BEST!!
MrJJB98 1 year ago
@MrJJB98 I think R15 is more beautiful. Undoubtedly, they have both awesome design
noname69690 1 year ago
@MrJJB98 i agree, this looks to bulky for some reason i dunno, but they lost the le mans with this car....
ruhroh999 1 year ago
nunwär echt cool wenn jemand mich vor meinen einsamen dasein retten würde
JamesLBrownc 1 year ago
looks like R8C model
pawel1818 1 year ago
i only new the audi R10 TDI
but never seen this one..
anyway hot stuff :D
willyford 2 years ago 2
Team Peugeot lodged an appeal to the ACO that the Audi's front suspension geometry is I think illegal.
18PacWest 2 years ago 2
@18PacWest they probably wouldn't have if they'd won...
gtiiiiiiii 1 year ago 4
whats the top speed of this brilliant car
marcman52 2 years ago
205-210 mph
Istarilight17 2 years ago
@Istarilight17 not entirely true, it depends on the track and setup. on the back straight at lemans, it hits 223. if it was the old lemans circuit with the longer straights, there would be less downforce for the setup, and the car would top out around 230
gregisnumerouno 2 years ago
wtF!
when did this beast come out?
i only knew about the r10
diehard430 2 years ago
November 2008
marco6981 2 years ago
ha. I know right. It's THE freaking sweetest audi EVER
DuckiE1221 2 years ago 2
The R8 went production. The R10 is legend! And now the R15 has finally arrived. Audi is purely amazing and never ceases to disappoint.
St00pidVide0z 2 years ago 12
@St00pidVide0z if they never cease to disappoint, that means they always disappoint, do you realise that?
jackobcooper 1 year ago 2
@jackobcooper Lol nice catch
thats what happens when people use cliches
Popz1992 1 year ago
@St00pidVide0z
audi is a great make of track and road cars
warriorxp111 11 months ago
AUDI Forever!!! :D
mirohaudini 2 years ago 78
yeah audi is the best will dominate in 2010!
AudiAlmsDontMess 2 years ago 5
You're right! :D
mirohaudini 2 years ago 2
go audi!! your the best! better then the french piece of crap!
AudiAlmsDontMess 2 years ago 2
the r15 looks nice, but why does it look slower (design) than the r10?
bubi8894 2 years ago
Aerodynamics are peculiar: just because something looks clean, doesn't mean it is. Often, inaerodynamic-looking shapes outperform their expectations.
Al989898 2 years ago 4
So this means audi will now be good and faster at the road courses in alms? :D .
jraybay 2 years ago
they trick acura so u acura fans suck!!!
chaseaker12 2 years ago
I think the Audi R15 is ugly, the R10 is much more beautiful, but the R15 is with no doubt a very good car.
TheNeverEndingGame 2 years ago 3
Really? I rather like the R15...
Maxables 2 years ago 2
Dios que bicharracoo!
GJotah 2 years ago
Lol Peugeot won this year... GG R15, the R10 is still better!
Zerolagg 2 years ago
audi r15 is the best car ever man my mum has audi a4 2009 1.9 tdi an its so strong. believe me audi is the best car in the world
londonas2 2 years ago
i love the r15 and i know that this car will win at le mans 2010!!!!
AudiMovies 2 years ago 3
i think r10 is the best, add some modifications. im sure they'll make it next year!
grinaljay 2 years ago
volkswagen owns audi
guitargodd1992 2 years ago 4
No, Audi owns Volkswagen
taviousrex 2 years ago
No, Volkswagen "Group" owns Audi, Bugatti, Bentley, Lamborghini, SEAT, Skoda, and Scania. haha
Caleb5617 2 years ago
I meant it in a "Audi is better than Volkswagen" way...
taviousrex 2 years ago
Audi PWNS Volkswagen!
Caleb5617 2 years ago
you are wrong the name is VAG Volkswagen Audi Group
turbisios 2 years ago
is it really?
Caleb5617 2 years ago
yes
turbisios 2 years ago
@taviousrex No, VW group owns Audi.
Streetracingpunk72 1 year ago 2
i wouldnt say that, id say that audi is a branch of Vw, like Toyota is to Lexus, or Honda is to Acura
ApSykesThewolf 2 years ago 3
Audi owns Peugot
dcgood66 2 years ago 64
no it doesnt?
i think citroen does...
enigmamonkey92 2 years ago
audi beat peugot in 2008, and peugot had a faster car. just goes to show that its not just the car. Audi for the win.
7h3PR0DUC3R 2 years ago
must be why peugot won le mans
aranhac 1 year ago
@dcgood66 not this year sir :(
Smatchimo 1 year ago
@Smatchimo
Agreed - Audi dominated because Peugeot couldn't match Audi's reliability at full 100%, thus causing Peugeot to come up 1-2 hours short of the finish. Audi's new car next year will have to be handling as good as it did this year and match the Peugeot's top speed if it wants to contend without failure on the French lion.
ratzinator1 1 year ago
@ratzinator1
I think the consumers are the true winners of these battles of the frugal and powerful diesel engines. Both Audi and Peugeot use the technology and experience in their diesel roadcars.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@dcgood66 WOOOOOOOOOOOO good job its so true!!
jackbonjour 1 year ago
@dcgood66
but now Creation Automotiff
y512516 1 year ago
Wat about a flat 10 engine. but that nose is kinda bulky. y didnt they make it more aerodynamic??? any1 know these please let me know. either way nice car
DrJCCC20 2 years ago
A Flat-10 hinders the air flow near the difuser, its too wide. This is a reason, why Alfa and Ferrari didn't used this engines in the early 80s, as their wing car design needed improovment.
The design of the R15 is very good. The aerodynamic could be improoved but this will take time. If there is enough room to get further, they will in the next years. But it is the truth: The Peugeot is so fast, that both car will be head to head in the next years.
PapstB 2 years ago
i wonder its top speed. the peugout seemed 2 have better top end at the 24 hour. no doubt audi still best tho
DrJCCC20 2 years ago
Peugeot is more about top speed, Audi is relying more on agility
welowrider32 2 years ago
this last LM audi was not racing 100% as they were having problems with radiator cooling (tires shreds were blocking the air ducts that lead to the radiator .. there is cleaning system in there that cleans and removes this debris that system was not working properly.. as its said its brand new car.. in its peak r10 should on par or faster then the 908 HDI's on the straights HDI's were recording speeds of 211mph while the r15 was only reaching 205.the r10 last year was recording 209mhp!!!
AdemJashari56 2 years ago
agility is everything. 15 seconds of having 20mph more is not worth the other minute of being destroyed in the corners
sunsetsniper 2 years ago
If you look at the track though thers mostly high speed corners, and the straights probably is the best section to gain some distance between two cars.
I still think that Peugoet got the downforce needed to get around the corners as fast the Audi team.
welowrider32 2 years ago
And 15 seconds times 24 hours is?
welowrider32 2 years ago
look at the sparks at 1:54 underneath the car as it hits the apex.
canonsucks 2 years ago
The car has like a ground clearance of about 30 mm HOLY COW!
welowrider32 2 years ago
More race experience before ye do the biggest race of the year. Next year the R15 will prove itself.
jgally88 2 years ago
agreed
DillonV666 2 years ago
I don't understand, the R15 is a roadster while LMP1 rules for 2010 force a closed cockpit design. are they using it only for 2009?
Speedoholic7 2 years ago
yes audi weren;t here to race in my opinion they have to much experience remember etsting they took it out to save cost so they are testing it here
unlawf 2 years ago
i want this to win this weekend
zhpz 2 years ago
Dieselpower!!!
icwav 2 years ago 3
The nose of R15 is to Fat.... its ugly R8 and R10 have a better design
LarryB1313 2 years ago
Right, because they give a damn if it looks good.
TEFLONTHADON 2 years ago
Hey Audi, can I put one of these engines in a motorcycle? I could wave bye bye as I pass Leno's Jet bike, SeeeeeYaaaaa!
Now maybe lets work on a Boxer engine? I think it would make even more power.
Good Job.
DieselBikeBuilder 2 years ago
Come on Aston - Setting off tomorrow for La Sarthe!!!!!
clegg8066 2 years ago
Wow, it looks like a Lamborghini Reventon!!!
Ceasar1030 2 years ago
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unlawf 2 years ago
I take it you like Alonso?
FrameByFrameStudios 2 years ago
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unlawf 2 years ago
I think Alonso would be bored as hell racing on ovals!
I really cant see how that should be his style...and he cant use his skills there just turning left!
Michaelingolfhansen 2 years ago 3
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unlawf 2 years ago
I dont think any oval race would suit F1.
That would go against what defines F1-cars, which is insane cornering speeds, "out of this world"-brakes, and the difficulty to control traction ecspecially out of slower corners,
and the drivers skills to do all these things with a surgeons precision!!!
None of these will be present on a Indy-like oval!
Instead of ovals in F1 I would like to se more fast corners.
Those 5+ g "necktwisters", and rules that still allow for high conering speed!
Michaelingolfhansen 2 years ago 2
What skills?
LokoZerg 2 years ago
The skills every F1 driver has:
The ability to steer, brake, and control traction with unbelievable precision, lap after lap, all while being subjected to insane G-forces!
These skills are not used on ovals!
For an F1 driver to exceed there has to be a challenge, where he can use his highly developed skills!
Michaelingolfhansen 2 years ago
correct me if im wrong but i reckon thats and aussie doing the voice over! the one who does voice overs for EVERYTHING like the arishows in aus, war memorials i think he even did the bejing olympics medal presentation for the swimmers!
chenzo717 2 years ago
Smettetela con ste stufe a pellets!!!!!
VERGOGNATEVI!!!
Buby1960 2 years ago
Go to i tunes and download "Truth In 24". Its free and shows how much Audis diesels dominate, and they sound gorgeous so gtfo.
cenzor 2 years ago
i got that. its so awsome!
straight2da50 2 years ago
Thanks for the upload! GOOO AUDI! Love TDIs!
kegyota 2 years ago
I dont like diesel in racing,what is with a good sound?
toniiii9 2 years ago
Well deal with it Diesel have owned Le Mans for 8 years.
welowrider32 2 years ago
Yes they have!
However: they still sound lame!!!
Michaelingolfhansen 2 years ago
Latest news of Le Mans: Audi lost finishing 3rd, Peugeot got the 2nd and
1st spot.
welowrider32 2 years ago
I know...I kinda saw it myself!
Have I said they are not FAST and reliable?! No, right?!
But they do not send chills down my spine either!
They are indeed effective machines, but nothing more than exactly just machines: effective, but sterile and charmless!
If I was offered some laps in a Lemans car, I would chose the R8...where I can feel a screaming machine, making my eyes wet!
However if I were to buy a medium range roadcar, I would consider a diesel!
Torque over BHP!
Michaelingolfhansen 2 years ago