@25thehit: In July 2011, the indian SU-30MKI lost dogfights against british Eurofighter Typhoons! I would say, the EF is the most advanced 4th Generation Fighter in the World.
y did iaf order almost 190 planes of this? really it has rcs of 10 m while eurofighter has only 1 m. this is risky during combats! they better have state of art avionics to compensate for that!
To all those people who claim Sukhoi is just a show pony,the description given by the pilot@1:40 clearly shows its a deadly beast that can sneak up on u smoothly,leaving no chance of escaping.Even f22 raptor doesnt have such quick agility.
@MrJoyride619 [Even f22 raptor doesnt have such quick agility] Bullshit. The videos you see of the F-22 are combat ready aircraft, not demo aircraft that you see the Su perform at airshows. + the F-22 is flying with a full tank of gas bud, 18000 lbs of fuel, which is something only an Su can dream of. Those Su's that you see at airshows have an optimal amount of fule, no external stores, limited avionics, in other words just a demo plane that's not combat ready.
Blehh... the F-22 could pwn them easily. Heck , the F-16 is a better multi-role air plane. This is perhaps the BEST Sukhoi made so far and it's superior to MOST Asian and European fighter jets , inferior to the American armada of F-22's , 15's and 16's.
@ZanSuabara96 they did, many times in exercise. Google is your friend. Thats for the F15. Clearly since you know nothing about aviation I will explain that F16 is not even in its class. Its a light one engine jet designed to fight something like MIg29. It cant be even slightly compared to a capabilities of something like Su27+++. Oh and as you say in "dog fight" the main advantage in this is the vector trust which is non existent on US planes. They mainly rely on BVR
@85LARGE LOL! NON-EXISTENT ON US PLANES? MAN , HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK? SAYING THINGS LIKE I KNOW "NOTHING ABOUT AVIATION" AND THEN CONTRADICTING YOURSELF BY SAYING THAT THRUST VECTOR IS "NON-EXISTENT" ON US PLANES!? Really now , just when I thought things couldn't get any dumber.. Well , FOR THE RECORD , F-22 has thrust vector capabilities as well as the F-35. ALL YOUR SUKHOIS HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR ONLY 1 THING - BEING A LARGE AIRPLANE , CARRYING HEAVY MISSILES.
@ZanSuabara96 F22 has only vertical trust vector. As for f35 its a STOVL with the rear nozzle turning 90 down as on Yak 141 (which has the original concept). It has nothing to do with trust vectoring.
And you really have to search for some good videos of MKI and compare it for example to a video if an f16, f22 or whatever.. Anyways im done arguing coz your arguments keep sounding like for a 13 year old. Its just trolling.
@85LARGE I guess they were right when they told me to not argue with retards. They said that the retard would bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.
@ZanSuabara96 this plane would have no problem taking on the f-16.....you do know the f-16 is a 3rd generation plane and the SU-30 mki is a 4th gen? it would not even be a competition the su-30 would annihilate it. now the f-22 on the other hand, well thats the best fighter in the world
@konischev You have got a point , The Su-30MKI can defeat an F-16 , thanks to the thrust vector ability because F-16 is THE MOST maneuverable airplane and is only second to F-22 in terms of maneuverability.
@ZanSuabara96 Oh u make me laugh. Only second to the F-22 is Su-30MKI. F-16s cant do half the things the MKI can. And given the fact that the 22 takes 30 hrs or maintenance for every hour of flight, I dont think it can ever be war ready. So that makes the MKI the best operational aircraft in the world.
@harshkalra90 The Su-30MKi is unfortunately for you not the best aircraft in operation.It used to be in 2000, but now we have aircraft such as the F-16 Block 60, and the F/A-18F.
@gtamodman122 f 16 ? is a freaking old plane u cant upgrade it more . even the americans have stop producing it any more. f 16 was 1st produced in 1970 or 60 i guess dat is why the world is looking towards the eurofighter typhoon and rafaele . even in the race of indian mmrca programes it got out with its brother f 18
@123456787654321ize The F-16's production line isn't closing at least until 2015.Iran has a 3 billion dollar contract for 18 F-16Ms.And believe me, not everyone is looking towards these aircraft.Some nations in the European world do, in an attempt to show that they don't need Americans.However, it turns out that they offer nothing more than American aircraft, and their cost is higher.The UAE made a wise choice for getting the Block 60.
@gtamodman122 Seriously, F-16s. Block 60 has nothing but improved avionics and radar but it still cant maneuver close to what the MKI can. The improvement only matches that of the MKI does not surpasses it. Also both these FAs dint make it to the final round of the MMRCA, they just couldnt fly at Leh. That shows that they underperformed. And btw in 2000 MKI dint exist, it was SU-30MK that was operational, directly bought from Russia, the MKI came a bit latter in partnership with HAL.
@harshkalra90 Wasn't the deal signed around 2000?Anyway, if not, my bad.Now, back on topic, I believe that you should have a look at what there is today.Helmet mounted sights (the TVC antidote), new short-range AAMs,lots of stuff.TVC can't save you.The MKi is perhaps the most agile plane in the world, but not the best.As for MMRCA, to me it seems more like an Indian attempt to improve diplomatic relations with european nations.
@gtamodman122 MMRCA is no where near a mode to improve European relations.. It is just an aircraft which will bridge the gap between the Heavy Combat and the Light Combat - That is y it is called Medium Combat. Heavy Combat will be Su-30MKI, MiG-29 will perform a lighter tasks, MMRCA will be fully medium in all respects, LCA will be the lighter combat and Mirage Heavier.
@shreyasisro5 nowhere near that?It's obivous for me.The majority of Indian military equipment is Russian.In the contest for 22 (or more) attack helos, India chose the AH-64D.Of course the Mi-28N isn't a better option than a combat-proven killing machine, but:
India chose the T-90 as its MBT.Pretty werd option the moment that in the tank market there are M1A2s, Leo2A6s, Challenger 2s, Leclercs, etc.
India chose the Su-30 as its primary fighter, and its future fighter will be the FGFA.Not the F-35
@shreyasisro5 My overall point is that India has purchased lots of equipment from Russia, regardless of the quality and the advantages it offers.Now they rule out Russian offers (MiG-35, claiming frustration cause of the engines, although with the same logic all su-30s should be returned to Russia) and choose 1 American and 1 European.A government doesn't do that, because such actions have outrageously high costs.India is trying to enhance diplomatic bonds while enhancing its military.
@gtamodman122 Would like to correct you on that! Is there any other nation other than the US & UK which can produce jet engines like the Russians? I don't think so! As for bad quality engines we must not blame only Tumansky because a lot of problems were due to shoddy building from Indian manufacturers, MiGs also were bad before but now it has improved a lot! Sukhoi is a great company and they have one of the best quality products, even better than European Firms infact!
@shreyasisro5 I never spoke of bad engines.I just said that the Indian side rejected the MiG-35 claiming that the Klimov disappointed them.By mentioning the MKIs I meant to highlight the fact that India has to send the engines back to Russia for any repairs.That, however, doesn't seem to be a problem for India.
@gtamodman122 As for Avionics - we have a fast mission computer, Glass Cockpit, Extremely powerful radars, radar jammers etc. etc. it is still very good in this dept., can carry more payload when compared to other jets!
@harshkalra90 I support the Block 60 because it is essentially a Rafale, but with both AA and AG combat experience, and a proven low cost.Everyone uses F-16s.from the United States to former Warsaw Pact nations like Poland.In the days that we live in, I believe that the 2 best fighters witll be the F-16 Block 60 and the T-50/FGFA.Of course, we ca't say much about the T-50, but I believe it will turn out to be a good plane.
@konischev By the way , Generation doesn't matter , India still uses 2nd/3rd Gen MiG-21's along with Mirage 2000's even though they are fucking out dated.
@dj8work Its hard to say, the exersize was bk in 2007 with some tornados and harriers too... just says opperations took place with BWV and WVR combat.
@dj8work All i saw was the it was a 1-1 equal kill ration in the red flag exercises they had, and even the British RAF pilots said they were very impressed with the SU-30 MKI
@konischev i think ur getting mixed up with some thing else, the exercise never took place at red flag. and there were not scores given i.e. 1-1... just that the typhoon beat them.. And yes the RAF pilots did say they was impressed by the SU30 maneuverability. But this was a referrence to the TVC. Which isnt all that effective in WVR.
@konischev Then u didnt read the original link i posted and i quote you "'Well, they lost,' was Stephen Dalton's response when IANS asked how the Russia-developed India-manufactured Su-30MKI air superiority jets performed against the Royal Air Force's (RAF) Typhoons when they matched their wits during the joint exercises in recent years."
Also the two aircraft were pitted against each other during ‘Indradhanush’ exercises in 2007 at Waddington in Britain and in 2010 at Kalaikunda in India
@rohitkumarindia Thrust vectoring means weight of Aircraft to the power of aircraft...if Thrust per Vecotor Ration is 1 then it can take a steep climb,even jst aft take off
@saimohan007 No, Absolutely wrong, what you described is Thrust to weight ratio. Thrust vectoring means the ability to vector engine thrust other than that along the engine axis. Basically you have movable nozzles which direct the exhaust along a desired direction.
@rohitkumarindia thrust vectoring is a property of the engine. the overall maneuverability of the aircraft is a property of the following factors, thrust to weight ratio, whether TVC is available or not and overall aircraft design, which in turn comprises of factors like wing loading, drag, control surface available and so on.
@rohitkumarindia depends on the entire aircraft. take the cobra maneuver - u need the entire aircraft to bear multiple g which not every aircraft can sustain. all these aircraft are aerodynamically 'unstable'. theyre all stabilized by computers onboard. some even have gyros. initially when thrust vectoring was developed by nasa and a modified (canards added) f-15 was used- this used the same p&w f100s found on the original f15- this means, it didnt depend on the engines alone
2 IAF MKIs have crashed but the Su-27 family of aircraft has an excellent technical safety record for over 25 years now. Nearly all crashes so far have been due to human error.
@Husar101 Remove the MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-27, HPT-32, Tempest - the crash rate would be just 250 or so! The good ones we had - Mirage, Su-30MKI, even MiG-29 isn't that bad, Jaguars are okay as well! May be old MiGs crash rate were the reason for MiG-35 being rejected this time for MMRCA!
@jonhestananet no .. those are the older mig 21s ... that was because in the early 90s Indian economy was at its lowest and there wasn't enough money for upgradation and proper maintainence. Now things have improved the Mig21 bisons are much better maintained and have a better track record
@jonhestananet after kicking u sordid portugis catholics out of Goa the Indians have now got a better air force then u u potgeezers. sorry to inform only 2 lost in many years of operating SU30s'! both caused by human and tech errors and easily corrected! now how many potgeezer jets have crashed? I see u geezers don't fly!!!
how does this aircraft compared to the eurofighter pse?
julnap2000 3 days ago
mig-35 wasn't chosen because it doesn't make sense to buy all the military equipment from a single country.
rajurashmi2000 3 weeks ago
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i think introduction of dassault rafel or eurofighter typhoon is definitely gonna change the backbone of IAF
xtradose1 3 weeks ago
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xtradose1 3 weeks ago
su30MKI is the lord of the skies
25thehit 3 weeks ago
@25thehit: In July 2011, the indian SU-30MKI lost dogfights against british Eurofighter Typhoons! I would say, the EF is the most advanced 4th Generation Fighter in the World.
TankNutJohn89 1 week ago
2 poor porkis watched dis.
Mindfreak103 1 month ago
@Mindfreak103 ya Randians also watch pakis movies
rusher80 1 month ago
Yai Asmaan, hai Mera !!!!
MrBoon008 2 months ago in playlist Indian Air Force Combat Aircrafts, AWACS, Wargames
y did iaf order almost 190 planes of this? really it has rcs of 10 m while eurofighter has only 1 m. this is risky during combats! they better have state of art avionics to compensate for that!
sbanbsnbsnmams 2 months ago
To all those people who claim Sukhoi is just a show pony,the description given by the pilot@1:40 clearly shows its a deadly beast that can sneak up on u smoothly,leaving no chance of escaping.Even f22 raptor doesnt have such quick agility.
MrJoyride619 2 months ago
@MrJoyride619 [Even f22 raptor doesnt have such quick agility] Bullshit. The videos you see of the F-22 are combat ready aircraft, not demo aircraft that you see the Su perform at airshows. + the F-22 is flying with a full tank of gas bud, 18000 lbs of fuel, which is something only an Su can dream of. Those Su's that you see at airshows have an optimal amount of fule, no external stores, limited avionics, in other words just a demo plane that's not combat ready.
TheTequilaShooter 2 months ago
makes me feel proud!
pragvansh 3 months ago
Blehh... the F-22 could pwn them easily. Heck , the F-16 is a better multi-role air plane. This is perhaps the BEST Sukhoi made so far and it's superior to MOST Asian and European fighter jets , inferior to the American armada of F-22's , 15's and 16's.
ZanSuabara96 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96 f15 and f16? man you are a moron
85LARGE 3 months ago
@85LARGE We'll see who's the moron when they engage in a dogfight.
ZanSuabara96 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96 they did, many times in exercise. Google is your friend. Thats for the F15. Clearly since you know nothing about aviation I will explain that F16 is not even in its class. Its a light one engine jet designed to fight something like MIg29. It cant be even slightly compared to a capabilities of something like Su27+++. Oh and as you say in "dog fight" the main advantage in this is the vector trust which is non existent on US planes. They mainly rely on BVR
85LARGE 3 months ago
@85LARGE LOL! NON-EXISTENT ON US PLANES? MAN , HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK? SAYING THINGS LIKE I KNOW "NOTHING ABOUT AVIATION" AND THEN CONTRADICTING YOURSELF BY SAYING THAT THRUST VECTOR IS "NON-EXISTENT" ON US PLANES!? Really now , just when I thought things couldn't get any dumber.. Well , FOR THE RECORD , F-22 has thrust vector capabilities as well as the F-35. ALL YOUR SUKHOIS HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR ONLY 1 THING - BEING A LARGE AIRPLANE , CARRYING HEAVY MISSILES.
ZanSuabara96 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96 F22 has only vertical trust vector. As for f35 its a STOVL with the rear nozzle turning 90 down as on Yak 141 (which has the original concept). It has nothing to do with trust vectoring.
And you really have to search for some good videos of MKI and compare it for example to a video if an f16, f22 or whatever.. Anyways im done arguing coz your arguments keep sounding like for a 13 year old. Its just trolling.
85LARGE 3 months ago
@85LARGE I guess they were right when they told me to not argue with retards. They said that the retard would bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.
ZanSuabara96 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96
typical U.S. guy thinks d world (apart from U.S. n europe) lives in a stone age
MORON
MikiBharat 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96 this plane would have no problem taking on the f-16.....you do know the f-16 is a 3rd generation plane and the SU-30 mki is a 4th gen? it would not even be a competition the su-30 would annihilate it. now the f-22 on the other hand, well thats the best fighter in the world
konischev 3 months ago
@konischev You have got a point , The Su-30MKI can defeat an F-16 , thanks to the thrust vector ability because F-16 is THE MOST maneuverable airplane and is only second to F-22 in terms of maneuverability.
ZanSuabara96 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96 Oh u make me laugh. Only second to the F-22 is Su-30MKI. F-16s cant do half the things the MKI can. And given the fact that the 22 takes 30 hrs or maintenance for every hour of flight, I dont think it can ever be war ready. So that makes the MKI the best operational aircraft in the world.
harshkalra90 3 months ago
@harshkalra90 The Su-30MKi is unfortunately for you not the best aircraft in operation.It used to be in 2000, but now we have aircraft such as the F-16 Block 60, and the F/A-18F.
gtamodman122 2 months ago
@gtamodman122 f 16 ? is a freaking old plane u cant upgrade it more . even the americans have stop producing it any more. f 16 was 1st produced in 1970 or 60 i guess dat is why the world is looking towards the eurofighter typhoon and rafaele . even in the race of indian mmrca programes it got out with its brother f 18
123456787654321ize 2 months ago in playlist Indian Air Force Combat Aircrafts, AWACS, Wargames
@123456787654321ize The F-16's production line isn't closing at least until 2015.Iran has a 3 billion dollar contract for 18 F-16Ms.And believe me, not everyone is looking towards these aircraft.Some nations in the European world do, in an attempt to show that they don't need Americans.However, it turns out that they offer nothing more than American aircraft, and their cost is higher.The UAE made a wise choice for getting the Block 60.
gtamodman122 2 months ago
@123456787654321ize By the way, the F-16's production started in the late '70s.
gtamodman122 2 months ago
@gtamodman122 Seriously, F-16s. Block 60 has nothing but improved avionics and radar but it still cant maneuver close to what the MKI can. The improvement only matches that of the MKI does not surpasses it. Also both these FAs dint make it to the final round of the MMRCA, they just couldnt fly at Leh. That shows that they underperformed. And btw in 2000 MKI dint exist, it was SU-30MK that was operational, directly bought from Russia, the MKI came a bit latter in partnership with HAL.
harshkalra90 2 months ago
@harshkalra90 Wasn't the deal signed around 2000?Anyway, if not, my bad.Now, back on topic, I believe that you should have a look at what there is today.Helmet mounted sights (the TVC antidote), new short-range AAMs,lots of stuff.TVC can't save you.The MKi is perhaps the most agile plane in the world, but not the best.As for MMRCA, to me it seems more like an Indian attempt to improve diplomatic relations with european nations.
gtamodman122 2 months ago
@gtamodman122 MMRCA is no where near a mode to improve European relations.. It is just an aircraft which will bridge the gap between the Heavy Combat and the Light Combat - That is y it is called Medium Combat. Heavy Combat will be Su-30MKI, MiG-29 will perform a lighter tasks, MMRCA will be fully medium in all respects, LCA will be the lighter combat and Mirage Heavier.
shreyasisro5 1 month ago
@shreyasisro5 nowhere near that?It's obivous for me.The majority of Indian military equipment is Russian.In the contest for 22 (or more) attack helos, India chose the AH-64D.Of course the Mi-28N isn't a better option than a combat-proven killing machine, but:
India chose the T-90 as its MBT.Pretty werd option the moment that in the tank market there are M1A2s, Leo2A6s, Challenger 2s, Leclercs, etc.
India chose the Su-30 as its primary fighter, and its future fighter will be the FGFA.Not the F-35
gtamodman122 1 month ago
@shreyasisro5 My overall point is that India has purchased lots of equipment from Russia, regardless of the quality and the advantages it offers.Now they rule out Russian offers (MiG-35, claiming frustration cause of the engines, although with the same logic all su-30s should be returned to Russia) and choose 1 American and 1 European.A government doesn't do that, because such actions have outrageously high costs.India is trying to enhance diplomatic bonds while enhancing its military.
gtamodman122 1 month ago
@gtamodman122 Would like to correct you on that! Is there any other nation other than the US & UK which can produce jet engines like the Russians? I don't think so! As for bad quality engines we must not blame only Tumansky because a lot of problems were due to shoddy building from Indian manufacturers, MiGs also were bad before but now it has improved a lot! Sukhoi is a great company and they have one of the best quality products, even better than European Firms infact!
shreyasisro5 1 month ago
@shreyasisro5 I never spoke of bad engines.I just said that the Indian side rejected the MiG-35 claiming that the Klimov disappointed them.By mentioning the MKIs I meant to highlight the fact that India has to send the engines back to Russia for any repairs.That, however, doesn't seem to be a problem for India.
gtamodman122 1 month ago
@gtamodman122 As for Avionics - we have a fast mission computer, Glass Cockpit, Extremely powerful radars, radar jammers etc. etc. it is still very good in this dept., can carry more payload when compared to other jets!
shreyasisro5 1 month ago
@harshkalra90 I support the Block 60 because it is essentially a Rafale, but with both AA and AG combat experience, and a proven low cost.Everyone uses F-16s.from the United States to former Warsaw Pact nations like Poland.In the days that we live in, I believe that the 2 best fighters witll be the F-16 Block 60 and the T-50/FGFA.Of course, we ca't say much about the T-50, but I believe it will turn out to be a good plane.
gtamodman122 2 months ago
@konischev By the way , Generation doesn't matter , India still uses 2nd/3rd Gen MiG-21's along with Mirage 2000's even though they are fucking out dated.
ZanSuabara96 3 months ago
@ZanSuabara96 yes but su-30's are n0ot 2nd/3rd generation....
konischev 3 months ago
Anyone having the series of this nat geo special on Air force ?? Please
ankur209 4 months ago
One word 'AWESOME!'
crAzyfists23 4 months ago
The Eurofighter has beaten this
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dj8work 6 months ago
@dj8work gunfight, close missile fight or BVR? The article gives no information about that.
midgetman2142 5 months ago
@dj8work Its hard to say, the exersize was bk in 2007 with some tornados and harriers too... just says opperations took place with BWV and WVR combat.
dj8work 5 months ago
@dj8work they never went head to head
konischev 4 months ago
@konischev they did in WVR and BVR. google and u will see
dj8work 4 months ago
@dj8work All i saw was the it was a 1-1 equal kill ration in the red flag exercises they had, and even the British RAF pilots said they were very impressed with the SU-30 MKI
konischev 4 months ago
@konischev i think ur getting mixed up with some thing else, the exercise never took place at red flag. and there were not scores given i.e. 1-1... just that the typhoon beat them.. And yes the RAF pilots did say they was impressed by the SU30 maneuverability. But this was a referrence to the TVC. Which isnt all that effective in WVR.
dj8work 4 months ago
@dj8work it was in the 2007 exercises they had, i did not see the part where the EF beat them.....
konischev 4 months ago
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dj8work 4 months ago
@konischev Then u didnt read the original link i posted and i quote you "'Well, they lost,' was Stephen Dalton's response when IANS asked how the Russia-developed India-manufactured Su-30MKI air superiority jets performed against the Royal Air Force's (RAF) Typhoons when they matched their wits during the joint exercises in recent years."
Also the two aircraft were pitted against each other during ‘Indradhanush’ exercises in 2007 at Waddington in Britain and in 2010 at Kalaikunda in India
dj8work 4 months ago
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@dj8work check your own link it does not work.
konischev 4 months ago
I am impressed. Nice. It reminds me of the old F-14 lookswise. They should make a Top Gun-like movie in India.
kwmkc13 6 months ago
veryy niceeee vedio :)
csruinedmylyf 1 year ago
LOVE THE FAKE ACCENT, why does that bloke talk like that, he sounds like a pole stuck up his arse
neethan30 1 year ago
i loved the personal;ity of our extremely capable fighter pilots. video is certainly a five starer
VIPUL46 1 year ago
THRUST VECTORING OF FIGHTERS DEPENDS ON THE ENGINE OR THE AIRCRAFT DESIGN ????????????
rohitkumarindia 1 year ago
@rohitkumarindia
it's principally got to do with the engine design.
Husar101 1 year ago
@rohitkumarindia Thrust vectoring means weight of Aircraft to the power of aircraft...if Thrust per Vecotor Ration is 1 then it can take a steep climb,even jst aft take off
saimohan007 1 year ago
@saimohan007 No, Absolutely wrong, what you described is Thrust to weight ratio. Thrust vectoring means the ability to vector engine thrust other than that along the engine axis. Basically you have movable nozzles which direct the exhaust along a desired direction.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
@Apollo13143 oh thanks for enlightening me bro
saimohan007 1 year ago
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Apollo13143 1 year ago
@rohitkumarindia thrust vectoring is a property of the engine. the overall maneuverability of the aircraft is a property of the following factors, thrust to weight ratio, whether TVC is available or not and overall aircraft design, which in turn comprises of factors like wing loading, drag, control surface available and so on.
MauryaSenapati 1 year ago
Only in the engine
pkpallai 1 year ago
@rohitkumarindia Sukhoi Su-30 MKI has 2×AL-31FP(Saturn AL-31 variant) which iscapable of Thrust Vectoring
29BILLYJ 2 weeks ago 2
@rohitkumarindia depends on the entire aircraft. take the cobra maneuver - u need the entire aircraft to bear multiple g which not every aircraft can sustain. all these aircraft are aerodynamically 'unstable'. theyre all stabilized by computers onboard. some even have gyros. initially when thrust vectoring was developed by nasa and a modified (canards added) f-15 was used- this used the same p&w f100s found on the original f15- this means, it didnt depend on the engines alone
monasri92 3 days ago
Indian Airforce will have one of the best gamut of fighter aircraft in the world
1. ca. 280 Su-30MKI
2. upgraded MiG-29SMT
3. MRCA competition (hopefully MiG-35 wins)
4. indigenous HAL Tejas
5. Pak-Fa variant HAL FGFA
6. o.k. not forgetting their Mirage 2000
brocalfur 1 year ago
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kedharf1 1 year ago
@kedharf1
unfortunately I don't have the full doco just a portion of it. I don't know the name.
Husar101 1 year ago
@kedharf1 yup mission udaan
csruinedmylyf 1 year ago
wow ! awesme helmet design black wid yellow :)) n nicee song too
csruinedmylyf 1 year ago
havent they lost loads of these aircraft in failures and acidents ?
jonhestananet 1 year ago
@jonhestananet
No. The older Mig-21s and 27s are the ones starting to show their age.
Husar101 1 year ago
@Husar101
1 of the su 30s did crash leading to grounding of the entire fleet for checks
123sdinesh 1 year ago
@123sdinesh
I know.
2 IAF MKIs have crashed but the Su-27 family of aircraft has an excellent technical safety record for over 25 years now. Nearly all crashes so far have been due to human error.
Husar101 1 year ago
@Husar101 Remove the MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-27, HPT-32, Tempest - the crash rate would be just 250 or so! The good ones we had - Mirage, Su-30MKI, even MiG-29 isn't that bad, Jaguars are okay as well! May be old MiGs crash rate were the reason for MiG-35 being rejected this time for MMRCA!
shreyasisro5 1 month ago
@shreyasisro5
personally I don't think so (re: the MiG-35)....could be technical reasons but I believe political considerations also played a role.
Husar101 1 month ago
@jonhestananet no .. those are the older mig 21s ... that was because in the early 90s Indian economy was at its lowest and there wasn't enough money for upgradation and proper maintainence. Now things have improved the Mig21 bisons are much better maintained and have a better track record
kedharf1 1 year ago
@jonhestananet after kicking u sordid portugis catholics out of Goa the Indians have now got a better air force then u u potgeezers. sorry to inform only 2 lost in many years of operating SU30s'! both caused by human and tech errors and easily corrected! now how many potgeezer jets have crashed? I see u geezers don't fly!!!
thar777 1 year ago
@thar777 pleae learn how to write
jonhestananet 1 year ago
@jonhestananet potgeezer alia catholic portugis retard! Hi sorry to learn u no speak da English!
what is a geezer retard like u doing messing around with the SU 30mki?
thar777 1 year ago
@jonhestananet answer is NO,
you are talking about the MIGs
yokkaiyokkai 1 month ago