I'll tip if I want to, call me cheap whatever, I will not be pressured by society to do what they say it is my decision. I can go out if I feel like it. If you don't like being a waitress find another job but don't blame people because your employer is cheap and you are too stupid to find another job that pays better.
I wish my employers had my back like that. People are ignorant. I think everyone should have to work as a server for at least a year because I can't pay my rent on 1$ tips all night. Why shouldn't the gratuity be included. Do you know how much we make per hour? In some states it's as low as 2.13 an hour. And people come in and rattle glasses at us and think they can talk to us however they want. Fuck that. Learn to tip and we won't have to add it to the bill. Ignorant assholes.
@88silverflame88 While I totally agree that tipping 1or 2 dollars is a dumbass move, you can't expect a full 18% tip if you treat your costumers like crap.
You Are so stupid! They received a bill with a total that had included a gratuity in the total bill! So you can't just say I will pay this but not that... They knew they were getting charged 18% the moment they sat down. They were given discounts for the appetizers arriving late. Seems like they wanted everything for free. Sit at home if you're not going to tip. It's not always the servers fault.
In England servers get paid a decent wage. America invented the tipping system as we know it. Capitalism, baby! We pay our servers 3 bucks an hour and make the public think it is expected to tip. One of the best labor cost cutting ideas ever.
. . . but if there was good service you need to take care of your server, bartender, or delivery driver. (Especially the delivery drivers they can make alot less then minimum wage if stiffed)
@kd10230 Servers don't make minimum wage. If you've never served you don't know that. Plus most places have tip outs so the gratuity is not just for the servers it's also for other employees. Tipping is not an option. If you can afford to eat out at a nice place you can afford the tip. If you can't then go to McDonalds. They have a dollar menu for cheapskates.
We had a party of eight come in who refused the 18% gratuity.. Service was fine, they just said it was one party of four and two parties of two.... Server ended up getting 10% for each "party"..
"If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do NOT equal the federal minimum hourly wage ($7.25), the EMPLOYER must make up the difference."
An employee gets paid atleast $7.25 if they don't earn enough tips. If they don't like the job, get another one. It's not my problem they didn't develop skills to work in well-paying jobs. We all EARN our fate.
you guys are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid. look up my article on hub pages. "follow up to why you tip" @ hubpages.com . I'll teach you a thing or two about tipping. You guys are just embarrassed to admit you don't know anything about tipping or restaurants. It's alright. I understand. Neither of you has worked in a restaurant as a server so you wouldn't know. just look up the article
@BlakeAndGaile, thank you for being one of the very few people in this fucked up place we live in, who understand. For fucks sake. TIPS are how we GET PAID. Damn-it I wish at least HALF the people in this country would screw their head on straight and just understand the world of the serving industry. I honestly think it would be a WONDERFUL idea for people to be a server for ONCE in their lifetime. Gods sake, get a brain people!!!!
Sucks to be that guy/gal.......The word tip(s) means exactly this....TO INSURE PROMPT(NESS) SERVICE. PERIOD. Service sux?....so does your tip.!!! My Mother once left a gal 1 penny......, because service sucked....gal got the hint and picked up her game a couple notches... : )
There would be a note made of an automatic gratiuty on the menu. If there was not mention then they are not obligated. The 18% gratuity belongs to the restaurant if it is mentioned on the menu and added as the "service charge" on the check. This tip amount would not necessarily going to the server directlly. The service charge is owned by the restaurant. I think some added investigation into state at federal law regarding tipped employees in the state of PA should have been done.
They should get the standard minimum wage at least that is over $7!
I don't tip people that have a wage or can set their own price if self-employed - that's right. If your a barber and rent the station fine charge what you want for the haircut without a tip. And ministers if your performing a marriage for one of the faithful its yuour JOB you get a SALARY so do not ask for more money.
If someone only makes tips and does something for a tip or entertains me ,buskers, then its okay.
Unamerican to say you have to pay the tip?!? Too bad the government expects that you make %15 of the sales and if you claim less then the government takes more out from your paycheck and taxes. America is fucking me in the ass with no lube
If the policy is "18% gratuity is added for parties of 5 or more", that becomes just as much a part of the contract as the price of the steak on the menu.You dont pay, that is the same as saying you wont pay the posted price of your meal.
@justcallmeassinine Well, that'd be unfortunate. We should be supporting this restaurant, not wishing for its demise. After all, they did the right thing and stood by their employee - many bosses, including several in my long-gone serving days, would have just shrugged it off. At some point, we have to stop catering to entitled jackasses who want something for free. They knew the gratuity situation and chose to eat anyway. Contract constituted, book closed.
I think you should always tip. Everyone is worth something whether it's a penny or 10 dollars on a 3 $ check. Some servers bust their ass and others sit down and visit the table once at most, Some customers think a 3 dollar bills means a quarter tip. Now if the server worked hard skip the % rule. If the didn't leave what they're worth then shame. I am a server and I am disgusted by my coworkers who don't work hard. You own a business you EXPECT customers to come just like customers to tip.
nooooooo, the restaurant said they were busy. If the costumer is not willing to be patient on service in a busy ass restaurant THEY CHOSE, you are egotistical, and never worked in food industry long enough to know that servers work their asses off...At least the ones with the big bucks.
@GreenRhythms What the hell? All I said was the restaurant was empty and now I'm egotistical? Your the egotistical one! The waiter did a poor job and didn't deserve a tip. In this case the waiter DID NOT WORK HIS ASS OFF. Bad Service doesn't equal tip. Sorry but your incredibly wrong.
@GreenRhythms I waited and bartended for 30 years. If it was busy, and the kitchen was jammed up, It means that the kitchen couldn't handle the volume, pure and simple, the server should have communicated this to the customer. If it was indeed an empty restaurant, it means that the line was more focused on setting up for the night, or too busy smoking a blunt out back.Sometimes it's the kitchen at fault, sometimes it's a shitty server to blame. eventually the blame falls squarely on management.
I am a waiter, I know what you mean although I doubt anyone was knocking off being busy. You are right, the waiter should have told the guest about the situation of volume.
If you don't tip your waiter, then you are simply a huge dick. Even if they do a terrible job, you still need to tip, just very low, like 8-10%. If not, then they basically just worked for an hour and a half (usually how long people dine-in) for free. If you do a shitty job at work one day, you might get yelled at, at the most, but you still get paid. Why should servers be treated differently?
Good luck to anyone getting waited on if your server is making "minimum" wage.....And the tip is for more than just service, there's so much more to waiting on people than taking orders and dropping off the meal, and any of you assholes out there that think its easy have NEVER done it and should shut the fuck up.
When I go to buy a car, a car salesman waits on me, and I don't need to tip them for that, even if I buy a car from them. If I go to the dentist, I don't tip the dental hygienist who preps me for the dentist.
Why in the world would I tip a waiter or a waitress at a restaurant? It's up to their employer to pay them. I pay for is the meal, and that's it. Let the server and the business owner deal with any server's pay issues. I simply won't patronize any place that makes tipping mandatory.
@ranger1skysoldier That's the douchey-est thing I've ever heard. Servers essentially don't get paid by the employer. If they don't get tips, they have basically just worked for free. It makes you a complete asshole to knowingly go out to eat with no intention of paying your server. If you don't like the way the restaurant system works, then DON'T EAT OUT.
@sparkylovesmangos "Servers essentially don't get paid by the employer." --Do you see the problem here? Waiters can get a job at walmart if they have no skills. If the pay is not high enough then no one should take the job; eventually restaurants would have to pay a decent wage if they want any employees.
@ranger1skysoldier Don't worry I have a feeling none of those resteraunts would be terribly saddened by the loss of the likes of you:) If you don't "believe" in tipping a server then at least let them know b4 hand. Thats way you can let management know you can get up and grab your own fucking food and refill your own drinks. BTW. When you buy a car you pay something called commission moron. Which is a much higher premium that any "tip". And a dental hygienist does not LIVE ON TIPS> Servers do!!
@ranger1skysoldier Why do you have to tip waiters??? Because your government is fucked up and puts you in this lose lose situation. If you don't tip (even with "terrible service") you are a bad person. Period. It is customary to tip. Period. Don't like it? Move to austrailia. Shitheads like you who play dumb and say you are patronizing the restaurant by tipping deserve to die. When you don't tip--you steal from the people who waited on you.
@SuperSam424 If the service is actually terrible and it's not just a douchebag complaining their waitress brought the ice cream with 16 sprinkles instead of the 17 you demanded, then no, it's perfectly fine not to tip. If you service was ordinary, 15%. If you had a great, friendly, attentive server, 20%, though I usually tip even more than that, my base being 20% for regular service. I like to give people working a thankless job a little extra, because I've been there.
@SuperSam424 Jerk servers...inattentive, rude, bringing cold food after chatting in the back for 20 minutes...those people get the dirtiest penny in my pocket, as a sign that, "I didn't forget to tip, you're just an asshole." I've only had to do that once.
@Bardlettt Obviously there are the unquestionable exceptions but nowadays people don't really apply not tipping to bad service--they JUST SAY "I got terrible service, I'm not tipping". That's all. People are not honest. Therefore, an 18% gratuity should be placed on every bill. MOST people do not even tip 18% for that matter--people keep trying to lower the percentage and it is unacceptable.
@deathfalk I take precious time out of my day to advise you how to utilise your own time more efficiently by downloading an add-on that blocks most browser ads and you choose to throw such accusations at me? No good deed goes unpunished, it seems. I term 'noob' is an accurate label for you because despite your suffering throught ads, you never once thought to google 'how to stop browser ads' and find the solution yourself.
You better start being more grateful or Santa wont come this year
@SupermarketsRevil That sounds great! Please don't waste anymore of your precious time responding to me. I blocked you just in case, say hi to Santa for me! XD
whats funny is there's still debate as to why ppl are getting fucked over? LOL. the justice system is owned by the superwealth. Imean look at the Supreme Court justices who are appointed by the president himself..LOL! isn't there supposed to be checks and balances? I don't think so. so. just pay the fucking fine. or pay the mob their 10% if u want to look at it like that. ppl used to get more justice from the Itialian Mob than the court system of today. seriously.
I laughed and cried. Actually, if the lady in the video ever went outside the U.S.,she would find than many COUNTRIES in the world automatically add a gratuity to the food bill. This is because many people assume that waitpeople make at least minimum wage. This is not the case. She said it was illegal to add a service charge, but if it is stated on the menu and bill, there is nothing illegal about it. Many establishments have NO TIPPING signs posted.
If the business explicitly stated the gratuity policy upfront (by for example printing on the menu itself or verbally telling the customers), and the customers accepted this policy by ordering, then they must comply no matter how stupid they think it is. If you accept, you must comply.
The BOTTOM LINE is, if you apply and accept being hired for a job where your income is based off of gratuity, that is YOUR problem and YOUR fault if you don't get tipped. You knew the good and shortcomings of that job before you started. If you are unhappy with how much you make, get another job. It is not society's responsibility to pay your paycheck. Don't complain about not getting tipped, you CHOSE to work there, it is not mandatory or expected automatically! Period!
@EMG81JSX Actually, it IS society's responsibility to pay servers. If you don't want to be a part of the system, you can choose to not dine out. Indisputable fact.
@nekkidandrew I say it is employees job to pay employees, as 'controversial' as that may seem to you. Your 'fact' has just been disputed. Protip, saying something is indisputable does not make it so. If you don't want waiters to 'work for free', raise the minimum wage or else demand higher rates of pay from employers.
@SupermarketsRevil And it's fine for you to think that it's the employees job to pay employees, although I'd argue that consumers are always going to be paying the employee, and tipping is just the more direct route. With that said, you don't have to like the system - but to choose to participate in one part of it (dining out) while completely ignoring the other part (ensuring that the server doesn't work for free) is just in bad taste. So yes, you CAN choose not to dine out.
@nekkidandrew Of course the consumer is 'paying' the employee in the sense that without the business of the consumer, there would be no employer to hire the employee. The point I made quite clear is that the employer should pay a decent wage to begin with. I don't have a problem with the concept of tipping so much as the notion that without tipping, an employee would not earn a decent income.
@SupermarketsRevil That's fine that you believe the employer should pay a decent wage to begin with. But the plain and simple fact is this: that's not how it works right now. Maybe one day, some sort of reform act will be passed; I'm sure that will remove a lot of the allure of the job for people with outsized personalities and people skills that can really work a table and have the potential to be paid excellently for providing excellent service, but that's neither here nor there.
@nekkidandrew If the consumer wants to throw more money at the waiter/waitress for doing a good job they can. I'm not suggesting they ban tipping. What I'm wondering is why the empoyer doesnt have a system of management that rewards good conduct by the employees? If they can't incentivise their employees to do their job well maybe they're in the wrong line of work.
@SupermarketsRevil Many places do offer this. One of my first serving jobs offered a battery of monthly-awarded collar pins in a number of categories (fun, guest service, teamwork, etc). A small trinket, sure, but it put you in the running to be employee of the month (which came with a nice bonus check) and, hey, there was some sort of prestige to be had being the shiniest server on the floor. I agree, more incentives would be ideal, but it's not like it NEVER happens.
@nekkidandrew I didnt say it never happens. I just think that when discussing the issue of hospitality employees making a living, the issue of good management and employer provided employee incestives should be a more important factor than whether or not and to what extent a customer decides to tip.
@EMG81JSX You also CHOSE to dine out at a restaurant, and you know that servers only make money from tips. So if you make teh decision to go out to eat, then you also take on teh responsibility to pay your freaking server and not be a cheap asshole. That's how the restaurant business works, and everyone is aware of it. If you don't like it, then don't go out.
@EMG81JSX If you CHOOSE to go out to a restaurant, it is MANDATORY that you adhere to that cultures CUSTOM. Bad service (assuming you actually KNOW what that is) is another story. But not tipping is just like spitting in someones face. When you don't tip, the waiter OWES the restaurant money from their own pockets. Gratuities are usually added in places where bad people usually dine. Don't give me that "you must earn" shit. Any old asswhipe can just SAY "I got bad service". Don't tip--don't eat.
Maybe it's cause I've lived in Asia where there is service tax and noone tips, but I just don't understand the concept of HAVING to tip someone. I thought a tip was a surprising, out of the blue act of generosity, not "If you don't tip me Ima spit in your coffee".
Gratuity does not mean fucking less service. An 18% tip isn't an ideal tip you tools. Any server will tell you that they want tips within the 20% - 25% range. When gratuity is put in place, it's so cheap asses like that couple don't fucking stiff their servers. I bet you anything that they made up half the crap they told the officers. I'm also pretty sure that the restaurant puts the fact they use gratuity inside their menus. If you don't want it, leave.
These Liberal idiots do not get it. A bill is a bill. Just because these Niggers overspent their crack Money...No one at the pub wants the Niggers back. No waiter wants to pay to wait on Niggers. It costs a waiter 5% of his sales to wait on a Nigger. Anything less than 5% of a tip = the waiter actually has to P A Y for the happiness of waiting on Niggers, or shitty Libtards like these idiot Newscasters.
@LS2Goat500 Excuse me, NAZI, are you aware there is a DOUCHEBAG law, of which you are violating, along with a RACIST PIECES OF SHIT ARE NOT WANTED sign posted? I'm afraid you need to appear in the DUMBASS circuit court & pay the fines plus court cost, along with a gratuity fee for us reading your IGNORANT statment. Please be more cautious in the future as upstanding OXYGEN THIEVES like yourself will have BULLSHIT called on them repeatedly. Thank you for your cooperation & please DROP DEAD.
The DA told the restaurant to drop the case against the couple because the restaurant would lose the argument in court. The restaurant never should have pursued it in the first place. They've gotten more bad publicity over this single incident than most other businesses would expect to see over a lifetime.
There isn't an obligation to pay even though x-number of dollars is granted to the total if the service was not provided. Gratuity is an award or gift that is given in exchange for the service, so since no service was given the customers really have no obligation to pay.
The whole system of gratuity or tipping or whatever is just ridiculous in America, why they just pay the staff a decent salary... And service in America is just downright annoying sometimes, with those permanent fake smiles and staff being overly nice
bitch i told you i aint payin no damn tip and they didnt do there job right and if a policeman dare to put his hands on me ill go off saying you cant arrest me for a damn tip and cuss him out
i deal with fucked up people that treat me subhuman like when making there food like there fucken better than me. people in food service get shit all day, it puts us in a good mood
The law supports the traditional view, and is the reason why all restaurants/bars lose court cases over customers not paying tips. The only way to stop bad tipping is to pay waiters at least the federal minimum wage ($7.25 as of 2011). They do it in Europe and in Japan.
@akin242002 thats not going to stop bad tipping... if they start paying waitstaff minimum wage tipping will end period, or at the very least be even less... i've worked in food service for ten years from dish washer all the way to manager. bad service gets bad tip plain and simple.
Customers and Waiters have two different definitions of tipping. Customers have the traditional definition (A non-mandatory gift for good service). Waiters/Bartenders/Delivery drivers have a new definition of tipping (A flexible mandatory payment for bad or good service).
you are un american to tell people who make 4 dollars an hour and just waited on this large party who took up most of their night and probably all their tables in their station that they cant have the 18% percent included.. cheap fucks you may as well be black but sand niggers are close enough. I was a fan until I realized how cheap you fucks are
@jbudd If the server was neglecting their table then they don't deserve that tip. I was a server for 2 and a half years and I can not imagine taking a full hour to even get somebody's order.
@jbudd did you even watch the video? it was a six top thats one table, the restaurant was slow, and they waited an hour just to have their order taken, thats BAD service, and that waiter wasnt DOING their job, so there for they dont get paid, if i wear managing that place i wouldn't apologized, comped their food, then fired the waiter like a good manager would, work in food service for a little while then talk...
@munkeynuttzz that is very hard to believe that they waited an hour to have their order taken... I have been in the restaurant business for over 15 yrs so dont come telling me about working in a restaurant.
@shaynahertl No, a restaurant cannot force a gratuity on the customers even if it's printed in the menu that parties of __ or more will be charged X% gratuity. If you want proof, go research the court cases where the judges upheld that a gratuity as defined by the federal government is a "voluntary sum of money as payment or a gift for services rendered". However, the restaurant can force a service charge, which the customer must legally pay. If it's called a gratuity, it isn't mandatory.
i will never go to a restaurant if they have a built in gratuity. those restaurants should be the ones arrested for theft. a way to avoid that nonsense is split the group up so that you are below the limit.
I'm sorry but who the fvck waits thats long to get service? 15min. at the MOST and I'm gone. But yeah, you don't wanna tip to someone that depends on them simply due to your opinion that you don't believe in them, you don't have to, or it isn't your problem, you are certainly welcome to cook yourself some ramen noodles then. Your opinions or thoughts do NOT change the fact that waiting tables, pizza delivery, bartending, etc. are tips-earning professions. TIP! Service only determines the size.
Idiots. I would LOVE to see dumbasses refusing the gratuity and getting arrested. I would enjoy not getting tipped if i could see the hood rat/ redneck douchebags go to jail everytime they wanted to stiff me. Seriously, in other countries they just charge more for stuff to compensate pay. Not called a grat or anything. your shit, is just more expensive.
If I ever had to wait on either of you I would shoot myself. People who have never worked in the food service industry do not understand. I dont agree with the people being arrested but you two seem like real bad people to have to wait on. But If a place puts the tip on the bill for big parties it clearly labled in several places and big parties are just a pain in the ass anyways.
They didn't pay their complete bill = theft of service = pumping your own gas and not paying. If you don't wanna pay it, you work it out with the manager, otherwise, it is theft. The couple was dead wrong
Mandatory tipping should be illegal? Are you an idot? Tipping was only invented so cheapskate restaurants could make their menu's appear cheaper by not having to compensate for service. Gratuity guarantees payment on large ass bills, because most citizens are cheap asses who invent excuses to pinch a penny. You can't just walk out on a bill, & then act all confused when the cops are called because you stole. Which, it is stealing by the way. People are dumb.
"Theft"? You mean "theft" can be applied to services? I'll have to re-look up the word "theft" and "steal" since I'm pretty sure those terms involve physical objects that one can steal.... :)
either way, here's a good suggestion for police officers: do peace and justice a favor by also standing up for people's civil rights as you are enforcing laws. sound good? :D it's the right thing to do.
@robertgenito Wow, that's fantastic!!! So by your definition of "theft" it is perfectly acceptable for me to walk away without paying for a cab ride (because of whatever complaint I choose), or a haircut, or any "service" that doesn't involve trading a "physical object" for money. Those sound like some awesome civil rights. Well, not to business owners in any kind of "service" industry, but fuck them; it's all about individual freedom!! wooooohoooo!!!!
Unfortunately, if the charge was part of the bill, they had to pay it. I would have taken the joint to small claims court. Then go for pain and suffering. But why did they stay there for an hour? That said, the management should have comped it. I agree with Cenk. Let 'em go! Furthermore, I think including a tip in a bill should be illegal. Certain unethical and predatory business practices are not legal in this country. It doesn't make us commies or anything, certain things are just not okay.
Gratuity is included on big parties because of people like them and the two people hosting that show.....i bet they tip 10% no matter how good the service is. By the way servers arent going give you crappy service just because the tip is included. As being a server....i give the same service sometimes better just on the hope that the customers would tip me over!
Good God this guys a moron. If the restaurant has a "stated" policy that they add grat. on to the bill of a large party and you agree to eat there then you have entered into an aggreement to pay for the product and service that you recieve. It's pretty fuckin' simple, but I wouldn't expect this meat-head to be able to follow linear thinking like that.
@thewhulk I suppose, depending on your definition of "validity." I just don't like this guy. His opinion of his intellect and his *actual* intellect a very far apart. And I am happy to meet his arrogance with my own. I suppose my opinion is valid as well and I just gave it.
@kaminarigaston yes I am, thanks for asking. If you have been a server, you will know that customers exaggerate wait times with regularity. For instance, "I've been waiting for my food for an hour" can mean "i was told the wait was 45mins for a table, I waited 45min for a seat, and now it's been 15min since I've recieved my food." Of course, it makes their case sound better if the server was the devil incarnate. However, if the server really was giving them the stink-face and poisoning their...
@kaminarigaston ..children, the customers should've had a calm, adult talk with the manager saying that they were angered by the service and want either a discount or will not pay grat. Apparently, they just walked out without paying the total of the bill and then got confrontational with the manager when approached, and I think it's funny they got arrested; Sue me. Sorry if I hurt your vagina by "dissing" your man.
@kaminarigaston You don't have to "see" grounds for them being arrested; obviously, the officers did because they arrested them. Now, if the arrestee's file a false arrest claim and win that claim in court, and you send me a link to the story or article that backs that up, I will formaly eat crow and never comment on this douche-bags videos again... Promise.
"obviously, the officers did because they arrested them"
And no one was ever arrested on dubious grounds.
"if the arrestee's file a false arrest claim and win that claim in court,"
If they want to waste a lot of time in something that will make them enemies of the police in exchange of probably just a slap on the wrists to the cops and nothing to gain.
If the news would report on a "sensational" story like that in the case they were willing to do it.
@kaminarigaston Lol. Another reason I am "safe" is because it isn't going to happen. You can throw around cospiracies all you want but the main reason it wont happen is because they wont win.
Of course, if a judge dismisses this case and declares that they commited no crime, that means that there were no grounds for them being arrested. Would you formaly eat crow and never comment on this douche-bags videos again if that happened?
@kaminarigaston You do realize that "arrest" and "conviction" are two seperate entities, right? They are not mutually exclusive. Was OJ Simpson "falsely arrested" because he was found innocent by a jury of his peers? Forgive me for answering a question with a question but, hopefully, you can see the disconnect in your conclusion. Counter-culture idealism often trips up our nation's youth but it should diminish as you get older.
Are you thick? OJ Simpson was acquitted because, apparently, they couldn't prove he was the murderer. Not because there was no crime. Do you get the difference? These guys ARE the guys. There's absolutely no fucking question about:
a)What happened
b)Who did it.
Since there's no question about a) and b) and the judge says there was no crime, then they were falsely arrested.
It's not like when they arrest someone for something and it turns out it didn'g happen or it weren't him.
@kaminarigaston Oh, I get it. OK yes, if the judge raps his gavel and audibly syas, "there was no crime commeted here!" I will eat crow. does that make you happier?
@kaminarigaston Lol. Wow, I didn't expect that. I was all prepaired for your next retort. You stole my thunder you sombitch! I had fun though, thanks.
@actonbath you do realize that your server has no control over the quality of the food right? Because otherwise it would sound really stupid to take over half of somebody's income because of something they had no control over.
As a sever, I bust my ass to make sure that my customers are happy. I dont understand how someone whose pay depends on their tips would not take their job seriously and do they best that they can do. Like the guy said, tips are rewards for a good job. If you are half assing it you dont deserve any tip you get.
@AgrivatedKillah That's kinda sad. A tip is simply a kind gesture to let the server know they are doing a good job. Most servers get paid 2-4$ an hour and their tip is a way to keep them in line in a way to make sure that they a do a good job and the customer is satisfied. The fact that you tell the server up front that you stiff is just rude. Its kinda sad that some people just can't let go of five extra bucks to someone else. Cheap pathetic human beings.
I don't pay people at mcdonalds tips for doing a good job. What?
I'm pathetic because I don't want to tip waiters? Tell that to all the japanese people then since none of them tip either..and I know a ton of guys who think tipping is just dumb.
@AgrivatedKillah here from where i come my sister is a waitress and their tips making them living.. they getting paid under the minimum salary cuz of the tips..
if the waiter doing is job you should do it
oh and i forgot to say that if the person is not giving 15% of the cost like if they paid 5% THEN the waiter need to pay 10%
@AgrivatedKillah Lol and I know that whatever response you will give will be around the lines of mimicking your first response. And we all know you're trolololololing.
I'll tip if I want to, call me cheap whatever, I will not be pressured by society to do what they say it is my decision. I can go out if I feel like it. If you don't like being a waitress find another job but don't blame people because your employer is cheap and you are too stupid to find another job that pays better.
mattsmoski3737 2 days ago
I wish my employers had my back like that. People are ignorant. I think everyone should have to work as a server for at least a year because I can't pay my rent on 1$ tips all night. Why shouldn't the gratuity be included. Do you know how much we make per hour? In some states it's as low as 2.13 an hour. And people come in and rattle glasses at us and think they can talk to us however they want. Fuck that. Learn to tip and we won't have to add it to the bill. Ignorant assholes.
88silverflame88 1 week ago
@88silverflame88 While I totally agree that tipping 1or 2 dollars is a dumbass move, you can't expect a full 18% tip if you treat your costumers like crap.
MPDKatina 1 week ago
You Are so stupid! They received a bill with a total that had included a gratuity in the total bill! So you can't just say I will pay this but not that... They knew they were getting charged 18% the moment they sat down. They were given discounts for the appetizers arriving late. Seems like they wanted everything for free. Sit at home if you're not going to tip. It's not always the servers fault.
doreen0985 1 month ago
In England servers get paid a decent wage. America invented the tipping system as we know it. Capitalism, baby! We pay our servers 3 bucks an hour and make the public think it is expected to tip. One of the best labor cost cutting ideas ever.
MusicContinues 1 month ago 2
@MusicContinues Servers in UK do not get a decnt wage....they rely on tips to help make their wage up.
Michaellxxx 1 month ago
"It's un-American to have to pay the tip."
Not disagreeing with you on principle but tipping is pretty much an American invention, at least as we know it today. It spawned from capitalism.
MusicContinues 1 month ago
Bad service = No tip! . . . simple as that.
. . . but if there was good service you need to take care of your server, bartender, or delivery driver. (Especially the delivery drivers they can make alot less then minimum wage if stiffed)
kd10230 4 months ago
@kd10230 Servers don't make minimum wage. If you've never served you don't know that. Plus most places have tip outs so the gratuity is not just for the servers it's also for other employees. Tipping is not an option. If you can afford to eat out at a nice place you can afford the tip. If you can't then go to McDonalds. They have a dollar menu for cheapskates.
88silverflame88 1 week ago
@88silverflame88 Tipping is an option, and you make a lot in tips.
mattsmoski3737 2 days ago
We had a party of eight come in who refused the 18% gratuity.. Service was fine, they just said it was one party of four and two parties of two.... Server ended up getting 10% for each "party"..
TheProfessor134 4 months ago
You don't NOT give a tip. Leave a penny. That's a sign for BAD SERVICE!
nannetta 5 months ago
@nannetta no a sign for bad service is not to tip duh!! thats the british way only tip for a good service
GrandMasterKai 1 month ago
Department of Labor Website
dol(dot)gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm
"If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do NOT equal the federal minimum hourly wage ($7.25), the EMPLOYER must make up the difference."
An employee gets paid atleast $7.25 if they don't earn enough tips. If they don't like the job, get another one. It's not my problem they didn't develop skills to work in well-paying jobs. We all EARN our fate.
vjm3 5 months ago 4
you guys are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid. look up my article on hub pages. "follow up to why you tip" @ hubpages.com . I'll teach you a thing or two about tipping. You guys are just embarrassed to admit you don't know anything about tipping or restaurants. It's alright. I understand. Neither of you has worked in a restaurant as a server so you wouldn't know. just look up the article
Conor6979 6 months ago
she waited 45 minutes for her water? Damn she is patient! I would have gotten pissed off after 15 minutes
ThiaLam 6 months ago
@BlakeAndGaile, thank you for being one of the very few people in this fucked up place we live in, who understand. For fucks sake. TIPS are how we GET PAID. Damn-it I wish at least HALF the people in this country would screw their head on straight and just understand the world of the serving industry. I honestly think it would be a WONDERFUL idea for people to be a server for ONCE in their lifetime. Gods sake, get a brain people!!!!
kaymoXO9 6 months ago
Sucks to be that guy/gal.......The word tip(s) means exactly this....TO INSURE PROMPT(NESS) SERVICE. PERIOD. Service sux?....so does your tip.!!! My Mother once left a gal 1 penny......, because service sucked....gal got the hint and picked up her game a couple notches... : )
59dominic 6 months ago
I'm from Ireland and we only tip if we want to, like if we feel we get really good service.
supduck 6 months ago
@supduck Yup, I used to work with tourists and 90% of the time Europeans equal zero or shitty tip.
earthwormjah 5 months ago
Service = Tip of 18% or 17%
Good service = Tip of 20% to 25%
Bad (ie rude or neglectful, (btw slow is usually not waiter fault but kitchen and expo)) = Tip of 7% to 15%
horrible (like really horrible) service = no tip
If you receive any kind of service that wasn't bare rock bottom horrible... you tip. period.
BlakeAndGaile 6 months ago
There would be a note made of an automatic gratiuty on the menu. If there was not mention then they are not obligated. The 18% gratuity belongs to the restaurant if it is mentioned on the menu and added as the "service charge" on the check. This tip amount would not necessarily going to the server directlly. The service charge is owned by the restaurant. I think some added investigation into state at federal law regarding tipped employees in the state of PA should have been done.
dakia 6 months ago
They should get the standard minimum wage at least that is over $7!
I don't tip people that have a wage or can set their own price if self-employed - that's right. If your a barber and rent the station fine charge what you want for the haircut without a tip. And ministers if your performing a marriage for one of the faithful its yuour JOB you get a SALARY so do not ask for more money.
If someone only makes tips and does something for a tip or entertains me ,buskers, then its okay.
clerickolter 6 months ago
Unamerican to say you have to pay the tip?!? Too bad the government expects that you make %15 of the sales and if you claim less then the government takes more out from your paycheck and taxes. America is fucking me in the ass with no lube
CbadOside 6 months ago
If the policy is "18% gratuity is added for parties of 5 or more", that becomes just as much a part of the contract as the price of the steak on the menu.You dont pay, that is the same as saying you wont pay the posted price of your meal.
nsofast 7 months ago
Well I hope this restaurant enjoys the publicity from this stunt they pulled.Hope they go out of business soon.
justcallmeassinine 7 months ago
@justcallmeassinine Well, that'd be unfortunate. We should be supporting this restaurant, not wishing for its demise. After all, they did the right thing and stood by their employee - many bosses, including several in my long-gone serving days, would have just shrugged it off. At some point, we have to stop catering to entitled jackasses who want something for free. They knew the gratuity situation and chose to eat anyway. Contract constituted, book closed.
nekkidandrew 7 months ago
I think you should always tip. Everyone is worth something whether it's a penny or 10 dollars on a 3 $ check. Some servers bust their ass and others sit down and visit the table once at most, Some customers think a 3 dollar bills means a quarter tip. Now if the server worked hard skip the % rule. If the didn't leave what they're worth then shame. I am a server and I am disgusted by my coworkers who don't work hard. You own a business you EXPECT customers to come just like customers to tip.
TheDarkAnimators 7 months ago
SOME PPL REALLY DESERVES TO GET SUED
highgradechub 7 months ago
that's awesome! :)
hunterg651 7 months ago
that's fuckin awesome :)
hunterg651 7 months ago
that's fuckin' awesome :)
hunterg651 7 months ago
but look at the waiter's side, the restaurant was busy, busy means service is slower, especially when short handled
GreenRhythms 7 months ago
@GreenRhythms the person said it was empty
ElectricChapelDemos 7 months ago
@ElectricChapelDemos
nooooooo, the restaurant said they were busy. If the costumer is not willing to be patient on service in a busy ass restaurant THEY CHOSE, you are egotistical, and never worked in food industry long enough to know that servers work their asses off...At least the ones with the big bucks.
GreenRhythms 7 months ago
@GreenRhythms What the hell? All I said was the restaurant was empty and now I'm egotistical? Your the egotistical one! The waiter did a poor job and didn't deserve a tip. In this case the waiter DID NOT WORK HIS ASS OFF. Bad Service doesn't equal tip. Sorry but your incredibly wrong.
ElectricChapelDemos 7 months ago
@GreenRhythms You're egotistical, dude.
ComicallySanePolitic 7 months ago
@GreenRhythms Restaurant workers don't know what hard work is.
Ironbumm 7 months ago
@Ironbumm
yeah, they do. And they get paid for it.
GreenRhythms 6 months ago
@Ironbumm
fuck you, tip your waiter BITCH! Hope they shit in your food asshole. Hope they cum in it too!
GreenRhythms 6 months ago
@GreenRhythms I waited and bartended for 30 years. If it was busy, and the kitchen was jammed up, It means that the kitchen couldn't handle the volume, pure and simple, the server should have communicated this to the customer. If it was indeed an empty restaurant, it means that the line was more focused on setting up for the night, or too busy smoking a blunt out back.Sometimes it's the kitchen at fault, sometimes it's a shitty server to blame. eventually the blame falls squarely on management.
ACocktailShaker 7 months ago
@ACocktailShaker
I am a waiter, I know what you mean although I doubt anyone was knocking off being busy. You are right, the waiter should have told the guest about the situation of volume.
GreenRhythms 7 months ago
If you don't tip your waiter, then you are simply a huge dick. Even if they do a terrible job, you still need to tip, just very low, like 8-10%. If not, then they basically just worked for an hour and a half (usually how long people dine-in) for free. If you do a shitty job at work one day, you might get yelled at, at the most, but you still get paid. Why should servers be treated differently?
sparkylovesmangos 8 months ago
Good luck to anyone getting waited on if your server is making "minimum" wage.....And the tip is for more than just service, there's so much more to waiting on people than taking orders and dropping off the meal, and any of you assholes out there that think its easy have NEVER done it and should shut the fuck up.
strawberry3940 8 months ago
When I go to buy a car, a car salesman waits on me, and I don't need to tip them for that, even if I buy a car from them. If I go to the dentist, I don't tip the dental hygienist who preps me for the dentist.
Why in the world would I tip a waiter or a waitress at a restaurant? It's up to their employer to pay them. I pay for is the meal, and that's it. Let the server and the business owner deal with any server's pay issues. I simply won't patronize any place that makes tipping mandatory.
ranger1skysoldier 8 months ago
@ranger1skysoldier That's the douchey-est thing I've ever heard. Servers essentially don't get paid by the employer. If they don't get tips, they have basically just worked for free. It makes you a complete asshole to knowingly go out to eat with no intention of paying your server. If you don't like the way the restaurant system works, then DON'T EAT OUT.
sparkylovesmangos 8 months ago
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@sparkylovesmangos "Servers essentially don't get paid by the employer." --Do you see the problem here? Waiters can get a job at walmart if they have no skills. If the pay is not high enough then no one should take the job; eventually restaurants would have to pay a decent wage if they want any employees.
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@sparkylovesmangos Exactly
jhechevarria 8 months ago
@ranger1skysoldier Don't worry I have a feeling none of those resteraunts would be terribly saddened by the loss of the likes of you:) If you don't "believe" in tipping a server then at least let them know b4 hand. Thats way you can let management know you can get up and grab your own fucking food and refill your own drinks. BTW. When you buy a car you pay something called commission moron. Which is a much higher premium that any "tip". And a dental hygienist does not LIVE ON TIPS> Servers do!!
lamiac2411 8 months ago
@ranger1skysoldier Why do you have to tip waiters??? Because your government is fucked up and puts you in this lose lose situation. If you don't tip (even with "terrible service") you are a bad person. Period. It is customary to tip. Period. Don't like it? Move to austrailia. Shitheads like you who play dumb and say you are patronizing the restaurant by tipping deserve to die. When you don't tip--you steal from the people who waited on you.
SuperSam424 8 months ago
@SuperSam424 If the service is actually terrible and it's not just a douchebag complaining their waitress brought the ice cream with 16 sprinkles instead of the 17 you demanded, then no, it's perfectly fine not to tip. If you service was ordinary, 15%. If you had a great, friendly, attentive server, 20%, though I usually tip even more than that, my base being 20% for regular service. I like to give people working a thankless job a little extra, because I've been there.
Bardlettt 8 months ago
@SuperSam424 Jerk servers...inattentive, rude, bringing cold food after chatting in the back for 20 minutes...those people get the dirtiest penny in my pocket, as a sign that, "I didn't forget to tip, you're just an asshole." I've only had to do that once.
Bardlettt 8 months ago
@Bardlettt Obviously there are the unquestionable exceptions but nowadays people don't really apply not tipping to bad service--they JUST SAY "I got terrible service, I'm not tipping". That's all. People are not honest. Therefore, an 18% gratuity should be placed on every bill. MOST people do not even tip 18% for that matter--people keep trying to lower the percentage and it is unacceptable.
SuperSam424 8 months ago
Okay, I just sat through the 45 second ad, and then clicked through the video to find it's just them talking. I hate TYTs!!!
deathfalk 8 months ago
@deathfalk google adblockplus you god damn n00b. Learn2internet.
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@SupermarketsRevil Does it make you feel better about yourself to insult others?
deathfalk 8 months ago
@deathfalk I take precious time out of my day to advise you how to utilise your own time more efficiently by downloading an add-on that blocks most browser ads and you choose to throw such accusations at me? No good deed goes unpunished, it seems. I term 'noob' is an accurate label for you because despite your suffering throught ads, you never once thought to google 'how to stop browser ads' and find the solution yourself.
You better start being more grateful or Santa wont come this year
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@SupermarketsRevil That sounds great! Please don't waste anymore of your precious time responding to me. I blocked you just in case, say hi to Santa for me! XD
deathfalk 8 months ago
whats funny is there's still debate as to why ppl are getting fucked over? LOL. the justice system is owned by the superwealth. Imean look at the Supreme Court justices who are appointed by the president himself..LOL! isn't there supposed to be checks and balances? I don't think so. so. just pay the fucking fine. or pay the mob their 10% if u want to look at it like that. ppl used to get more justice from the Itialian Mob than the court system of today. seriously.
snowfallzz 8 months ago
I laughed and cried. Actually, if the lady in the video ever went outside the U.S.,she would find than many COUNTRIES in the world automatically add a gratuity to the food bill. This is because many people assume that waitpeople make at least minimum wage. This is not the case. She said it was illegal to add a service charge, but if it is stated on the menu and bill, there is nothing illegal about it. Many establishments have NO TIPPING signs posted.
Sadly, many people do not tip.
TipperWhore 8 months ago
Too many people are just cheap, and no matter the service they will still just go on to say how the service was bad no matter how it really was.
bharpy8 8 months ago
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I hope people boycott that shithole. Bad service AND arresting people over a tip to boot? That place needs to be closed down. Freaking ridiculous!
xxdirectorxx 9 months ago
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SuperhumanChichi 9 months ago
lol @ the end where Cenk flipped the switch and Commodus from Gladiator speaks
SuperhumanChichi 9 months ago
Isn't it quite simple?
If the business explicitly stated the gratuity policy upfront (by for example printing on the menu itself or verbally telling the customers), and the customers accepted this policy by ordering, then they must comply no matter how stupid they think it is. If you accept, you must comply.
ageisold 9 months ago
The BOTTOM LINE is, if you apply and accept being hired for a job where your income is based off of gratuity, that is YOUR problem and YOUR fault if you don't get tipped. You knew the good and shortcomings of that job before you started. If you are unhappy with how much you make, get another job. It is not society's responsibility to pay your paycheck. Don't complain about not getting tipped, you CHOSE to work there, it is not mandatory or expected automatically! Period!
EMG81JSX 9 months ago 21
@EMG81JSX Actually, it IS society's responsibility to pay servers. If you don't want to be a part of the system, you can choose to not dine out. Indisputable fact.
nekkidandrew 8 months ago
@nekkidandrew I say it is employees job to pay employees, as 'controversial' as that may seem to you. Your 'fact' has just been disputed. Protip, saying something is indisputable does not make it so. If you don't want waiters to 'work for free', raise the minimum wage or else demand higher rates of pay from employers.
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@SupermarketsRevil And it's fine for you to think that it's the employees job to pay employees, although I'd argue that consumers are always going to be paying the employee, and tipping is just the more direct route. With that said, you don't have to like the system - but to choose to participate in one part of it (dining out) while completely ignoring the other part (ensuring that the server doesn't work for free) is just in bad taste. So yes, you CAN choose not to dine out.
nekkidandrew 8 months ago
@nekkidandrew Of course the consumer is 'paying' the employee in the sense that without the business of the consumer, there would be no employer to hire the employee. The point I made quite clear is that the employer should pay a decent wage to begin with. I don't have a problem with the concept of tipping so much as the notion that without tipping, an employee would not earn a decent income.
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@SupermarketsRevil That's fine that you believe the employer should pay a decent wage to begin with. But the plain and simple fact is this: that's not how it works right now. Maybe one day, some sort of reform act will be passed; I'm sure that will remove a lot of the allure of the job for people with outsized personalities and people skills that can really work a table and have the potential to be paid excellently for providing excellent service, but that's neither here nor there.
nekkidandrew 8 months ago
@nekkidandrew If the consumer wants to throw more money at the waiter/waitress for doing a good job they can. I'm not suggesting they ban tipping. What I'm wondering is why the empoyer doesnt have a system of management that rewards good conduct by the employees? If they can't incentivise their employees to do their job well maybe they're in the wrong line of work.
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@SupermarketsRevil Many places do offer this. One of my first serving jobs offered a battery of monthly-awarded collar pins in a number of categories (fun, guest service, teamwork, etc). A small trinket, sure, but it put you in the running to be employee of the month (which came with a nice bonus check) and, hey, there was some sort of prestige to be had being the shiniest server on the floor. I agree, more incentives would be ideal, but it's not like it NEVER happens.
nekkidandrew 8 months ago
@nekkidandrew I didnt say it never happens. I just think that when discussing the issue of hospitality employees making a living, the issue of good management and employer provided employee incestives should be a more important factor than whether or not and to what extent a customer decides to tip.
SupermarketsRevil 8 months ago
@EMG81JSX You also CHOSE to dine out at a restaurant, and you know that servers only make money from tips. So if you make teh decision to go out to eat, then you also take on teh responsibility to pay your freaking server and not be a cheap asshole. That's how the restaurant business works, and everyone is aware of it. If you don't like it, then don't go out.
sparkylovesmangos 8 months ago
@EMG81JSX If you CHOOSE to go out to a restaurant, it is MANDATORY that you adhere to that cultures CUSTOM. Bad service (assuming you actually KNOW what that is) is another story. But not tipping is just like spitting in someones face. When you don't tip, the waiter OWES the restaurant money from their own pockets. Gratuities are usually added in places where bad people usually dine. Don't give me that "you must earn" shit. Any old asswhipe can just SAY "I got bad service". Don't tip--don't eat.
SuperSam424 8 months ago
@EMG81JSX ...yeah so all the waiters and waitresses should quit and you can serve yourself ...dush
usmarine03411 6 months ago
@EMG81JSX ...yeah so all the waiters and waitresses should quit and you can serve yourself ...dush...
usmarine03411 6 months ago
@EMG81JSX Face it, you are cheap. And if you've been to a restaurant more than twice, you've probably eaten spit and/or floor gunk.
earthwormjah 5 months ago
Maybe it's cause I've lived in Asia where there is service tax and noone tips, but I just don't understand the concept of HAVING to tip someone. I thought a tip was a surprising, out of the blue act of generosity, not "If you don't tip me Ima spit in your coffee".
JermzzzyFTW 9 months ago
@JermzzzyFTW Precisely, service charges are added to preclude non-tippers from stiffing the wait staff.
TipperWhore 8 months ago
@JermzzzyFTW Precisely, service charges are added to preclude non-tippers from stiffing the wait staff. Sadly, this often makes the staff lazy.
TipperWhore 8 months ago
God I love
TheAlazmy 10 months ago
Gratuity does not mean fucking less service. An 18% tip isn't an ideal tip you tools. Any server will tell you that they want tips within the 20% - 25% range. When gratuity is put in place, it's so cheap asses like that couple don't fucking stiff their servers. I bet you anything that they made up half the crap they told the officers. I'm also pretty sure that the restaurant puts the fact they use gratuity inside their menus. If you don't want it, leave.
DirkMcgee 10 months ago
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These Liberal idiots do not get it. A bill is a bill. Just because these Niggers overspent their crack Money...No one at the pub wants the Niggers back. No waiter wants to pay to wait on Niggers. It costs a waiter 5% of his sales to wait on a Nigger. Anything less than 5% of a tip = the waiter actually has to P A Y for the happiness of waiting on Niggers, or shitty Libtards like these idiot Newscasters.
LS2Goat500 10 months ago
@LS2Goat500 u racist bastard burn in hell
duhbelltake 10 months ago
@LS2Goat500 dude you need to grow up or shoot your self in the head
mukz007 10 months ago
@LS2Goat500 Excuse me, NAZI, are you aware there is a DOUCHEBAG law, of which you are violating, along with a RACIST PIECES OF SHIT ARE NOT WANTED sign posted? I'm afraid you need to appear in the DUMBASS circuit court & pay the fines plus court cost, along with a gratuity fee for us reading your IGNORANT statment. Please be more cautious in the future as upstanding OXYGEN THIEVES like yourself will have BULLSHIT called on them repeatedly. Thank you for your cooperation & please DROP DEAD.
krazyknva78 9 months ago
Rude waiters or waitresses shouldn't get tips.
Celticboi69 10 months ago
The DA told the restaurant to drop the case against the couple because the restaurant would lose the argument in court. The restaurant never should have pursued it in the first place. They've gotten more bad publicity over this single incident than most other businesses would expect to see over a lifetime.
cunard61 10 months ago
don't take a party of 8 or more if you don't want to pay a mandatory tip. It's that simple.
futtrain 10 months ago
When gratuity is mandatory then so is service. No mandatory service = no mandatory gratuity.
TheExpatexpert 10 months ago
There isn't an obligation to pay even though x-number of dollars is granted to the total if the service was not provided. Gratuity is an award or gift that is given in exchange for the service, so since no service was given the customers really have no obligation to pay.
evilgrin07 10 months ago
The whole system of gratuity or tipping or whatever is just ridiculous in America, why they just pay the staff a decent salary... And service in America is just downright annoying sometimes, with those permanent fake smiles and staff being overly nice
yvesofzo 10 months ago
@jbudd try being a mexican dining at an all white people joint in 2011 trust me you'll be a firm believer
kingarthur2009 11 months ago
Omg you can't include that on a tip
Exspecially if they did a horribl job I'd be like
bitch i told you i aint payin no damn tip and they didnt do there job right and if a policeman dare to put his hands on me ill go off saying you cant arrest me for a damn tip and cuss him out
you aint gonna arrest for no damn tip
XXSCENEZZXX 11 months ago
its food service, don't be a jew tip. its karma
i deal with fucked up people that treat me subhuman like when making there food like there fucken better than me. people in food service get shit all day, it puts us in a good mood
mateohellabay78 11 months ago
I hate going out to eat with people who don't tip!
LazyFilmMaker 11 months ago
I usually tip between 10 to 20 % depending on whether or not the waiter/waitress was good or not.
littleboner10101 1 year ago
It is unAmerican that you have to pay the tip…but the arrangement was made before the service was given. It was part of the meal…so it was theft.
Imagine if you went to a really horrible movie and you decided not to pay for the film?
DragonflyDM 1 year ago
unamerican... sigh.
PCGamerPortal 1 year ago
The law supports the traditional view, and is the reason why all restaurants/bars lose court cases over customers not paying tips. The only way to stop bad tipping is to pay waiters at least the federal minimum wage ($7.25 as of 2011). They do it in Europe and in Japan.
akin242002 1 year ago
@akin242002 thats not going to stop bad tipping... if they start paying waitstaff minimum wage tipping will end period, or at the very least be even less... i've worked in food service for ten years from dish washer all the way to manager. bad service gets bad tip plain and simple.
munkeynuttzz 1 year ago
Customers and Waiters have two different definitions of tipping. Customers have the traditional definition (A non-mandatory gift for good service). Waiters/Bartenders/Delivery drivers have a new definition of tipping (A flexible mandatory payment for bad or good service).
akin242002 1 year ago
you are un american to tell people who make 4 dollars an hour and just waited on this large party who took up most of their night and probably all their tables in their station that they cant have the 18% percent included.. cheap fucks you may as well be black but sand niggers are close enough. I was a fan until I realized how cheap you fucks are
jbudd 1 year ago
@jbudd If the server was neglecting their table then they don't deserve that tip. I was a server for 2 and a half years and I can not imagine taking a full hour to even get somebody's order.
TheViolentJanes 1 year ago
@jbudd did you even watch the video? it was a six top thats one table, the restaurant was slow, and they waited an hour just to have their order taken, thats BAD service, and that waiter wasnt DOING their job, so there for they dont get paid, if i wear managing that place i wouldn't apologized, comped their food, then fired the waiter like a good manager would, work in food service for a little while then talk...
munkeynuttzz 1 year ago
@munkeynuttzz that is very hard to believe that they waited an hour to have their order taken... I have been in the restaurant business for over 15 yrs so dont come telling me about working in a restaurant.
jbudd 1 year ago
@jbudd watch the video 0:45 believe what you want im going the facts given to me by the video
munkeynuttzz 1 year ago
thats the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard!!!!!!
P4brains 1 year ago
Your tip is my way to say "good job."
If you do a crappy job there will be no tip.
Questions? -.-
Serostern 1 year ago 49
@Serostern here endeth the lesson!!!!! +1,000,000!!
torontothegood 8 months ago
@Serostern Then how do black people say "good job" since they don't tip regardless of the service?
CbadOside 6 months ago
@CbadOside I doubt this is a racially motivated behaviour.
Serostern 6 months ago
@CbadOside Funny
mindfuqq 6 months ago
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RantinAndRavin 1 year ago
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RantinAndRavin 1 year ago
@shaynahertl No, a restaurant cannot force a gratuity on the customers even if it's printed in the menu that parties of __ or more will be charged X% gratuity. If you want proof, go research the court cases where the judges upheld that a gratuity as defined by the federal government is a "voluntary sum of money as payment or a gift for services rendered". However, the restaurant can force a service charge, which the customer must legally pay. If it's called a gratuity, it isn't mandatory.
MelkorHimself 1 year ago
i will never go to a restaurant if they have a built in gratuity. those restaurants should be the ones arrested for theft. a way to avoid that nonsense is split the group up so that you are below the limit.
mtkw08 1 year ago
A TIP is a GIFT! No good service, no TIP.
Jcsharitz 1 year ago
I'm sorry but who the fvck waits thats long to get service? 15min. at the MOST and I'm gone. But yeah, you don't wanna tip to someone that depends on them simply due to your opinion that you don't believe in them, you don't have to, or it isn't your problem, you are certainly welcome to cook yourself some ramen noodles then. Your opinions or thoughts do NOT change the fact that waiting tables, pizza delivery, bartending, etc. are tips-earning professions. TIP! Service only determines the size.
scapelli21 1 year ago
Leslie Pope in better times at
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MitchMb14 1 year ago
Idiots. I would LOVE to see dumbasses refusing the gratuity and getting arrested. I would enjoy not getting tipped if i could see the hood rat/ redneck douchebags go to jail everytime they wanted to stiff me. Seriously, in other countries they just charge more for stuff to compensate pay. Not called a grat or anything. your shit, is just more expensive.
quicklikeabunny666 1 year ago
If I ever had to wait on either of you I would shoot myself. People who have never worked in the food service industry do not understand. I dont agree with the people being arrested but you two seem like real bad people to have to wait on. But If a place puts the tip on the bill for big parties it clearly labled in several places and big parties are just a pain in the ass anyways.
impulse0341 1 year ago
i love eu legisation its all calculated in the end price (13%)
slim5782 1 year ago
hahaha a gratuity/tip is a GIFT, it's not mandatory in any way
SanguineBullet667 1 year ago
i think the cops get free food from the lousy cheapskate restaurant looool
aulyatan 1 year ago
They waited an hour for their food, not to get their order taken. Thats a huge fucking difference...
PrettyLilBow 1 year ago
Meh this can go both ways, I used to work as a server and some customers are just terrible cheapass people.
But once a guy gave me a 20 buck tip, so I guess it evens out.
12cacho12 1 year ago
They didn't pay their complete bill = theft of service = pumping your own gas and not paying. If you don't wanna pay it, you work it out with the manager, otherwise, it is theft. The couple was dead wrong
yourztruIy 1 year ago
Just outlaw tipping. Or get takeout.
john17972 1 year ago
This guys such a shit presenter man :S :S :S
cormacmccoy 1 year ago
Mandatory tipping should be illegal? Are you an idot? Tipping was only invented so cheapskate restaurants could make their menu's appear cheaper by not having to compensate for service. Gratuity guarantees payment on large ass bills, because most citizens are cheap asses who invent excuses to pinch a penny. You can't just walk out on a bill, & then act all confused when the cops are called because you stole. Which, it is stealing by the way. People are dumb.
EmRebJac 1 year ago
"Theft"? You mean "theft" can be applied to services? I'll have to re-look up the word "theft" and "steal" since I'm pretty sure those terms involve physical objects that one can steal.... :)
either way, here's a good suggestion for police officers: do peace and justice a favor by also standing up for people's civil rights as you are enforcing laws. sound good? :D it's the right thing to do.
robertgenito 1 year ago
@robertgenito Wow, that's fantastic!!! So by your definition of "theft" it is perfectly acceptable for me to walk away without paying for a cab ride (because of whatever complaint I choose), or a haircut, or any "service" that doesn't involve trading a "physical object" for money. Those sound like some awesome civil rights. Well, not to business owners in any kind of "service" industry, but fuck them; it's all about individual freedom!! wooooohoooo!!!!
matthound 1 year ago
Unfortunately, if the charge was part of the bill, they had to pay it. I would have taken the joint to small claims court. Then go for pain and suffering. But why did they stay there for an hour? That said, the management should have comped it. I agree with Cenk. Let 'em go! Furthermore, I think including a tip in a bill should be illegal. Certain unethical and predatory business practices are not legal in this country. It doesn't make us commies or anything, certain things are just not okay.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 1 year ago
see you in hell pub
expecily the waiter
>:D
residentevil5pwner 1 year ago
wow be patient, my family waited 2 and a half hours before we got our food and we ended up getting it for free and free dessert :P
Feshman117 1 year ago
Gratuity is included on big parties because of people like them and the two people hosting that show.....i bet they tip 10% no matter how good the service is. By the way servers arent going give you crappy service just because the tip is included. As being a server....i give the same service sometimes better just on the hope that the customers would tip me over!
koreach9 1 year ago
can someone tell me where they got the sound clip he used on this video. the one that says "again and again and again"
mmolaibonno 1 year ago
Good God this guys a moron. If the restaurant has a "stated" policy that they add grat. on to the bill of a large party and you agree to eat there then you have entered into an aggreement to pay for the product and service that you recieve. It's pretty fuckin' simple, but I wouldn't expect this meat-head to be able to follow linear thinking like that.
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound dude his opinion is still valid.
thewhulk 1 year ago
@thewhulk I suppose, depending on your definition of "validity." I just don't like this guy. His opinion of his intellect and his *actual* intellect a very far apart. And I am happy to meet his arrogance with my own. I suppose my opinion is valid as well and I just gave it.
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound
"you have entered into an aggreement to pay for the product and service that you recieve"
Except they weren't getting the fucking product and service... Are you even paying attention?
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston yes I am, thanks for asking. If you have been a server, you will know that customers exaggerate wait times with regularity. For instance, "I've been waiting for my food for an hour" can mean "i was told the wait was 45mins for a table, I waited 45min for a seat, and now it's been 15min since I've recieved my food." Of course, it makes their case sound better if the server was the devil incarnate. However, if the server really was giving them the stink-face and poisoning their...
matthound 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston ..children, the customers should've had a calm, adult talk with the manager saying that they were angered by the service and want either a discount or will not pay grat. Apparently, they just walked out without paying the total of the bill and then got confrontational with the manager when approached, and I think it's funny they got arrested; Sue me. Sorry if I hurt your vagina by "dissing" your man.
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound
"Apparently, they just walked out without paying the total of the bill"
Apparently, the bill included tips for a good service that they didn't have. If they didn't pay THAT, I don't see grounds for being arrested.
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston You don't have to "see" grounds for them being arrested; obviously, the officers did because they arrested them. Now, if the arrestee's file a false arrest claim and win that claim in court, and you send me a link to the story or article that backs that up, I will formaly eat crow and never comment on this douche-bags videos again... Promise.
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound
"obviously, the officers did because they arrested them"
And no one was ever arrested on dubious grounds.
"if the arrestee's file a false arrest claim and win that claim in court,"
If they want to waste a lot of time in something that will make them enemies of the police in exchange of probably just a slap on the wrists to the cops and nothing to gain.
If the news would report on a "sensational" story like that in the case they were willing to do it.
Don't worry, you are safe.
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston Lol. Another reason I am "safe" is because it isn't going to happen. You can throw around cospiracies all you want but the main reason it wont happen is because they wont win.
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound
Of course, if a judge dismisses this case and declares that they commited no crime, that means that there were no grounds for them being arrested. Would you formaly eat crow and never comment on this douche-bags videos again if that happened?
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston You do realize that "arrest" and "conviction" are two seperate entities, right? They are not mutually exclusive. Was OJ Simpson "falsely arrested" because he was found innocent by a jury of his peers? Forgive me for answering a question with a question but, hopefully, you can see the disconnect in your conclusion. Counter-culture idealism often trips up our nation's youth but it should diminish as you get older.
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound
Are you thick? OJ Simpson was acquitted because, apparently, they couldn't prove he was the murderer. Not because there was no crime. Do you get the difference? These guys ARE the guys. There's absolutely no fucking question about:
a)What happened
b)Who did it.
Since there's no question about a) and b) and the judge says there was no crime, then they were falsely arrested.
It's not like when they arrest someone for something and it turns out it didn'g happen or it weren't him.
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston Oh, I get it. OK yes, if the judge raps his gavel and audibly syas, "there was no crime commeted here!" I will eat crow. does that make you happier?
matthound 1 year ago
@matthound
fair enough.
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston Lol. Wow, I didn't expect that. I was all prepaired for your next retort. You stole my thunder you sombitch! I had fun though, thanks.
matthound 1 year ago
I always tip-
Excellent Service and food=20%
Excellent Service and bad food-7%
Bad Service and Excellent food-I hand the cook 10%
Bad Service and Bad food- 1 cent.
actonbath 1 year ago
@actonbath Not the server's fault the food might suck.
TriaMaxwell 1 year ago
@actonbath you do realize that your server has no control over the quality of the food right? Because otherwise it would sound really stupid to take over half of somebody's income because of something they had no control over.
DoguOgu 1 year ago
As a sever, I bust my ass to make sure that my customers are happy. I dont understand how someone whose pay depends on their tips would not take their job seriously and do they best that they can do. Like the guy said, tips are rewards for a good job. If you are half assing it you dont deserve any tip you get.
HyperTheProfessor 1 year ago 48
@HyperTheProfessor as a what? sever? what's a sever?
bbphnix 11 months ago
@bbphnix A sever is my attempt at spelling server. But it should kinda be obvious that I was trying to say server...
HyperTheProfessor 11 months ago
@HyperTheProfessor Even if you do your job to the fullest you don't deserve a tip at all.
Why someone HAVE to pay you money when I've already covered my bill when I ordered my food.
I tell waiters when I go out upfront I don't tip, because it's disrespectful.
It's not my job to give you money, it's your bosses.
AgrivatedKillah 9 months ago
@AgrivatedKillah That's kinda sad. A tip is simply a kind gesture to let the server know they are doing a good job. Most servers get paid 2-4$ an hour and their tip is a way to keep them in line in a way to make sure that they a do a good job and the customer is satisfied. The fact that you tell the server up front that you stiff is just rude. Its kinda sad that some people just can't let go of five extra bucks to someone else. Cheap pathetic human beings.
HyperTheProfessor 9 months ago
@HyperTheProfessor What?
I don't pay people at mcdonalds tips for doing a good job. What?
I'm pathetic because I don't want to tip waiters? Tell that to all the japanese people then since none of them tip either..and I know a ton of guys who think tipping is just dumb.
AgrivatedKillah 9 months ago
@AgrivatedKillah here from where i come my sister is a waitress and their tips making them living.. they getting paid under the minimum salary cuz of the tips..
if the waiter doing is job you should do it
oh and i forgot to say that if the person is not giving 15% of the cost like if they paid 5% THEN the waiter need to pay 10%
twiggykat1 9 months ago
@AgrivatedKillah Lol and I know that whatever response you will give will be around the lines of mimicking your first response. And we all know you're trolololololing.
HyperTheProfessor 9 months ago
i'm so glad i'm not american how pathetic.
stuartpatto1976 1 year ago
We add grat at our restaurtant for parties 8 or more but we dont slack off because of it....well at least I don't. I work hard for my tips
AmerbZoka 1 year ago
omg..how is she so beautiful!
navyseal100 1 year ago
A tip needs to be EARNED not just handed out to lazy people!!!
hummerh244 1 year ago