Of all the shit going on in Scotland(Knife/Gun crime,Drugs,social deprivation etc)and these politicians make a massive deal about Rangers/Celtic?1 word,CHANCERS.
Why is Racial Segregation considered bad yet Religious Segregation considered ok?
I'm certain that 90% of the punters in bairds bar went to Roman Catholic schools, primary and secondary, brainwashed from a young age, only mixing with other catholics, where do kids make friends? School...
This Segregation is the cause of Sectarianism. Scotland will continue to live in the dark ages and always have issues with Sectarianism until they stop funding Roman Catholic Schools.
@st3vi Not quite true, RC schools are open to all and are funded in part by the RC diocese. I grew up in the east end of Glasgow with many protestant/ Rangers supporting mates, many I am happy to say are still mates today. "Segregation is the cause of sectarianism" Really?, any thoughts on RC`s being banned from the highest office in the land or from marrying into the royal family? "Dark ages?" indeed.
@haroldbhoy67 In theory they are opened to all, in practice its a different story, what percentage of non-catholics went to your school? I'm glad you still have non catholic friends despite your brainwashing, maybe you are brighter than average
Yes, "Segregation is the cause of sectarianism" you seriously believe segregation breaks down sectarianism? Segregation and sectarianism go hand in hand.
I have as much interest in the royal family as i have in the Roman catholic church, get rid of both
@st3vi I went to school 30 years ago, times have changed. Its not a theory, its a fact. There are many non catholics at my childrens school. Whether you have an interest in the royals is irrelevant, your tax funds them and they are part and parcel of British society but not open to RC`s. I suspect you have probably voted at some time? any thoughts on RC`s being banned from being Prime Minister? Dark ages indeed? You are clearly interested enough to comment on the RC church? Have a good weekend.
@haroldbhoy67 Times have not changed, i can give you real life examples of non catholic kids not being accepted by a RC secondary, even though the school was a stones throw from their house, how many is"many" what percentage of non catholics at your childrens schools are not muslim just out of curiosity? Yes, my tax funds royals and RC schools and i protest at both, i believe in secular government with no favoritism for ANY faith or privileged elite, be that from rome or buckingham palace.
@st3vi Times have certainly changed since I was at school, for the better, though admittedly I have not lived in Glasgow or Scotland for 20 years. There are children at my kids school from Asian families, they may be muslim, I dont know or care, its none of my business, a persons religion means nothing to me. I have always been of the opinion that religion is a personal and private thing. Anyway, been enjoyable debating with you without all the "orange this" or "fenian that" crap.
@Joe Blow,The current catholic population at present is around 12% of the population(of which i am part)and the problem exists simply and purely because of the demonization of the Catholic church centuaries gone which has unfortunately been carried on to this day.
It's not our fault and as a catholic it's not my problem
@iambeastLol HEY if its not any of your problems DONT open your mouth & if you do makes me THINK your part of the PROBLEM your all killing my country WITH YOUR BIGARTORY good message to send to your kids & what a role model you all are I am talking about both sides YOU make me ashamed
Rangers fans think there being great loyal british people by being anti catholic but i lived in e gland all my life and never had any grief for being catholic, so there trying a bit too hard.
so as an outisder, someone tell me, arent theyre any "scottish catholics" left in scotland? what happened to all the catholic highlanders?? the ones that werent shipped to nova scotia?? im not being ignorant on purpose,i really want to understand whats goin on here? i understand its alot about religion. can someone that wants to have an intelligent conversation email me please and enlighten me. also, how can one call themselves scottish and not want independence from england???? makes no sense
The gentleman your referring to is the owner of the the popular Rangers pub 'The Louden Tavern' . You could pop in and see him when your next up in our beloved city but may I recommend you don't refer to him as a 'slopey lipped fag' or you may indeed experience sectarianism up close and very personal. Regards.
its in their fucking heads. drove around glasgow by parkhead and ibrox all day today, not a hint of sectarianism. it's in their smackhead heads.move to largs, its nice there. ENGLAND FOR THE ENGLISH!
If you are looking for sectarianism can I recommend
A) Parkhead is where Celtic Park is but is not a Catholic area and indeed is right beside Bridgeton which is regarded as the heartland of traditional Glasgow Protestantism.
B) Come back up when the football is and there are supporters of some of the teams about.
C) Getting out of your car. It's difficult to 'experience' societies ills when moving around at 40 mph in a piece of steel with wheels and the radio on.
@Hypoguest - back to where i come from?? hmmmmm........ I am Scottish, was born in Irvine central hospital. I have been to Ireland a couple of times on holiday so what are u on about? You are all traitors to Scotland - yous would rather be english than scottish. NAE CUNT LIKES YOUS SO FUK OFF!! yous are nothing but animals who cause trouble wherever u go, you are all filled with so much anger and bitterness. Thats why i really cant stand your kind... horrible horrible people..
@amaffmaheid listen tae it... u have a cheek to say i am sectarian when u support the most bigotted, bitter anti catholic football team in the modern day.
@Quinnbhoy7 This refers to the sex scandal involving members of celtic boys club who are apart of celtic football club. Jock Stein knew about the child abuse going within the boys club, specifically youth coach Jim Torbett who raped players such as Alan Brazil. Jock Stein knew about this however he never went to the police, instead he covered the scandal up
@jamesy15 - Im laughing at how pathetic you people... in fact no.... ANIMALS are! Yous are the scum of this country, nobody likes you lot. You feel you have to make up these vile stories in order to score points. Truth is its you lot who are the ones who are sick with your horrible bigotry, bitterness, evil catholic hating selves. I will say it again and again - I am so glad I am not on the dark side but a good timaloy!
@Quinnbhoy7 HOW CAN YOU MAKE THINGS UP THAT WENT TO TRIAL 2 CHARGED AND 1 JAILED, CHECK BBC NEWS, ITV AND ALL PRESS REPORTS,,,,CELTIC FC --ABUSING KIDS FROM 1888,,,CHILD MOLESTING SCUM,, AND YOU SAY NO ONE LIKES US,,,,TRUTH IS NO ONE LIKES YOU CHILD MOLESTING TRASH
@jamesy15 - That comment just goes to show how stupid you are! You believe everything you read in the paper and hear on the tele. I blame the protestant education system....
Don't see what the sectarian issue has to do with the child molestation cases that occurred 30 years ago ( molestation is very different to rape by the way and Alan Brazil has never said he was raped) or the unfounded and libelous claims that Jock Stein ( a Protestant by the way) in some way 'covered up' Jim Torbett's actions.
@wayofthecass couldnt give a fuck what religeon stein was,, is that your way of trying to justify child abuse , i am athiest so it doesnt matter to me,,celtic knew aBOUT THE ABUSE AND DONE NOTHING-SCOTLANDS TRUE SHAME AND NOTHING EVER COMPARES TO YOU CHILD MOLESTING SCUM
3 different football tops a season for £50 a pop which are made in the far-east for as little as £1.50 good deal.Players who you idolise are only interested in the dough not you.Over-inflated ticket prices waken up these clubs are using you£££££££££££££££££.WHY ARE YOU KILLING EACH OTHER FOR?CAN'T YOU SEE YOUR BEING USED?
let the people sing their story's and their songs! and the music of their native land! their lulabys and battle crys and songs of hope and joy so join us hand in hand!!!!
I have no doubt that Calvinism formed part of actual sectarian bigotry (Lord Gordon, a Scots Presbytarian in England ignited the Gordon Riots for instance). But to ignore the part which Fenianism, a totalitarian, bigoted ideology played would be intellectual dishonestly. Fenianism is not Catholicism, it is a subversive ideology derived from the French Revolution, similar to Bolshevism. It deserves to be condemed in whole.
So basically, as an example, Boys of the old brigade is banned at parkhead for 1 referance to the IRA (The old IRA, who were a completely legitmate army) and we can be arrested for singing that. Meanwhile, you can't even refer to someone's skin colour as "black" because thats apparently racist, yet the orange order are allowed to march through streets singing about being "up 2 their knees in fenian blood"
Work it out for yourselves! the british government is a bunch of dirty fascist orange cunts
i agree wit u there mate!! The IRA are freedom fighters, i mean why are britain in ireland in the 1st place?? they have no business with ireland at all!!!
went to bairds bar recently what a pub great people. at the end of the day celtic was formed on the irish migrants so we have our right to sing our songs. we were oppressed people at the time. and i dont care who you are or where you come from you dont forget your past.because you will never know were you are heading... ALBA GU BRAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
To chelsealuvsrangers...not all ulsterscots share the same views as ranger fans do, infact there is an ulster party in northern ireland that support northern irelands independence from Britain.
most "football" fans are thick as shit and just "follow da game" cause thats what there scummy family have done/their thick mates follow it. Mostly for stupid people.
wait how can u think rangers fans are scummy bastards when u support the red hand of ulster just like all rangers fans, ur either really thick mate or a fenain in disguise lol, get it sorted u fukin idiot!
at least they make it into the big euro league and have won a euro cup. give them some credit. Rangers hate man u, i googled it and its because of irish man u players down the years, ignorant pricks
i find it really funny that some twat would come on here and leave a comment when they have 1690 in their name, if you know history you'll know thats fucking evil.
I'm a follower of James because i'm scottish and in that i would have to say i sympathize to a degree with Ireland with their cause but i am a Scottish Catholic Celtic fan who tries to keep my political views out of Football and i dont think singing songs is bad at all.
Look at the negativity of rap lyrics and the effect is has.
what a midden that bairds bar is,,,i support hamilton and went in there with some mates for a drink, we had to walk over a guy lying at the door with a bottle of buckfast in his hand,,,tables hadnt been cleaned since god knows when,toilets no paper, no hand towels, mates are celtic fans, but even they walked out after 1 drink
What a load of shit the sooner people start caring about real issues like who's selling drugs to young people etc in the community the better, freemasonry divides people and makes the community fight amongst itself. If you love your kids keep them away from all of this shit. Also religous predjudice does exist and it's wrong but is bringing your kids up to follow Celtic or Rangers going to help or just carry this stupidness on? No matter what anyone claims it's only about bigotry!
Yur right a hink its tit for tat a hink bath of us should be aloud tae sing what we want. Cos theres mer kick up aboot is no than there is we can no wit a mean.
It's just daftness all rival football teams hate each other, but the difference with this is it carrys on after the match because of the religon thing, it's still hard having a Irish name(being christened a catholic) you don't get the same chances in life, thats true they here your name, or what school you went to, and it's like oh we've no work sorry son! Your better off being black than Irish/Catholic in Britain today! Not that there's anyhing wrong with being black, at least you have rights!
am a Rangers fan n agree wit the bar manager,i av stopped singning the banned songs at ibrox but it dnt stop me singin the songs outside am not saying am a bigot or even believe in half the things am sayin altoh i do sum but it mainly jst a bit of banter. i wud b happier if BOTH teams cud sign wot they want in the stadium as the atmosphere is alot better but i believe the media r the biggest shame in scotland
Mate fair dos hands =doon am a ninty minute bigot and maybe a wee bit mer. End a the 4-2 game a came hame went er tae ma pal whos a man a the rangers badge. Shook hes hon and said yees played well. Well done and that was it.
Am not protestant nor catholic, am agnostic. Though I found catholics are far more civilized. I this Britain should become a republic, thus a democracy instead of being queen's slaves.
If people want to live in a republic, they can immigrate to one. The Fenian worldview contradicts the Catholic worldview. Most European Catholics, including ones in Britain are monarchists. The effeminate ideology of Fenianism, which constructs a mythical bastardisation of the past to assault the cornerstones of Western Civilisation (behind the mask of false "patriotism") must be wiped from the face of th earth, along with their Marxist brethren. God Save the Queen.
How can you promote the Satanic creed of republicanism, while living in Jordan? It is because of Jordan's monarchy, rejecting the communist worldview, that it is the most stable country in the entire Middle East.
You losers do more damage to Scotland than any English army ever did - and I mean both of you - the green and the blue - you're maggots in the face of that beautiful country.
im a rangers fans and not once have i ever sang a sectarian song and im a season ticket holder. why the fuck would i care what happened in ireland years ago even though im a catholic?
ive been past bairds bar when ive been up the barra's and its one of the most sectarian bars you'll ever see. i think the pub should be shut down and that goes for sectarian rangers pubs aswell
back tae ireland? ok... i think you will find the majority are Scottish. Fukin stupit fanny!! hahah typical fukin fat tattoo riden hun faced wee cunts!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! i fukin hate yeeeezzzz!! yous are evil bastarts!!
your the stupid fanny aye they wee rodents in bairds bar might be scottish but my point is youz all want to be irish ya fuckin inbred fenian you all wear irish tops and sing irish songs so do us all a favour and fuck off over there ya stupid ugly wee peado prick
affmaheid - i could say the same about you cunts!! you's ugly bastards hold up red hand of ulster flags! why dont you fuck off to northern ireland then!!!!!????? so shut yer fukin mouth ya orange bastart! oh aye and yous wear fukin england tops anaw!! wits that all about!? - i can honestly say that i wid rather wear an ireland tops than a fukin english one!!
there was sectarianism in liverpool my family were forced out of ireland into the slums of liverpool at least eventually most of the irish catholics to the council estates like croxteth and kirkby
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would all you child molesting celtic fans cover up child abuse like big jock. i fucking hope not but by the look of some of those cretins in bairds bar i am not so sure. who shagged aw the boys you soap dodgin cunts
This BJK thing was just something trumped up by some knuckle dragging clandestine sad men,because their songs of hatred were attracting too much attention from the UEFA etc,therefore a substitute had to be found to appease the masses. Jakeshaws, chill the f*ck out , and kiss my papish a*se!!!
jim mullen of bairds bar looks like another paedophile like torbett.large jock knew you fuckin child molesting bastards. covering up paedophilia use should be ashamed of yourselves tattie munchin scum. no place for paedos
The Louden tavern owner is thick the sash isn't sectarian but the people who go in there and sing no ope of rome are sectarian therfore its a sectarian pub
Spare me your melodrama. At no point is the problem denied. This is a patent fabrication on your part.
The accounts given in the 4 parts come from a broad spectrum of the cultural divide in Central Scotland. Nil By Mouth, Celtic and Rangers FC as well as the Scottish Executive were invited to take part and all refused. I'm not going to apologise for questioning Jack McConnell's true motives or the authenticity of his claims even if it does threaten your safe little world.
The problem is clearly unstated in your "documentary", and surely you are the one living in the "safe little world" if you're not calling for these songs to be outlawed. I'm living in the real world mate speaking out against sectarianism.
It's no surprise you got the sources you did and the one's above ignored you because the film is useless and amateurish. You peddle the status quo, which stinks.
Of course it amateurish. It was done on a zero budget. This is acknowledged in 'About this video'. Though people are watching it and discussing it. Your on the sidelines whining and giving nothing.
The documentary is not about sectarianism. It is about its existence in reality and attitudes towards it. As for your slanderous remark about picking my sources it goes to show how low your argument has fallen. no opinion of your own just a personal attack based on cheap insults and baseless claims.
I think this film is dangerous and if you think I'm not offering any opinions reread what I've wrote properly.
"The documentary...attitudes towards it." You're confused as is this film!
Look, I applaud you for making a film, but when in you're film do you denounce lines such as, "up to our knees in fenian blood" and "dirty orange bastards"? do you condemn such remarks? That is where I am confused.
So if one offers the opinion which is indeed a statistical fact that sectarianism is not the horrendous social blight in central Scotland which it is made out to be then they are being "dangerous"?
As for being confused how is that? Like I said this documentary was not about sectarianism in the sense I study and offer evidence of it. It is an analysis of how the people who are meant to be affected by it feel and not how the MSPs do.
I think most people interviewed denounced the lines you stated. Can I ask do you denounce hip-hop music and stand up comedians such as Bill Hicks etc or just Celtic and Rangers fans? Infinitely more offensive things have been spouted in the name of entertainment and in the celebration of freedom of speech by those parties in comparison to ancient cultural chants.
guy with the beard was talking a bit of sense but he blew it on the celtic guy with a scarf on getting attacked ..does it not happen the other way to ?????????? of course it does end of story
this might be a shocker for any staunt rangers fans but we ALL came from ireland! the first scots were dalriadans and they were irish! and this guy on this video moaning about his freedom of expression is a fuckin disgrace, freedom of expression comes at a price! its not a licence for rage and hate!
think if you look up m8 scots didnt all come from the irish cant remember the exact name but like the name ritchie actually came off the french so sort of blows that out the water
aw fur fucks sake! so i suppose you think were all french then eh! im no stupid i do realise that scotland was formed by a combination of different cultures, what iam saying is that the first people that the romans called the scots WERE IRISH!
Of all the shit going on in Scotland(Knife/Gun crime,Drugs,social deprivation etc)and these politicians make a massive deal about Rangers/Celtic?1 word,CHANCERS.
urbankhat65 2 weeks ago
Why is Racial Segregation considered bad yet Religious Segregation considered ok?
I'm certain that 90% of the punters in bairds bar went to Roman Catholic schools, primary and secondary, brainwashed from a young age, only mixing with other catholics, where do kids make friends? School...
This Segregation is the cause of Sectarianism. Scotland will continue to live in the dark ages and always have issues with Sectarianism until they stop funding Roman Catholic Schools.
st3vi 3 months ago
@st3vi Not quite true, RC schools are open to all and are funded in part by the RC diocese. I grew up in the east end of Glasgow with many protestant/ Rangers supporting mates, many I am happy to say are still mates today. "Segregation is the cause of sectarianism" Really?, any thoughts on RC`s being banned from the highest office in the land or from marrying into the royal family? "Dark ages?" indeed.
haroldbhoy67 3 months ago
@haroldbhoy67 In theory they are opened to all, in practice its a different story, what percentage of non-catholics went to your school? I'm glad you still have non catholic friends despite your brainwashing, maybe you are brighter than average
Yes, "Segregation is the cause of sectarianism" you seriously believe segregation breaks down sectarianism? Segregation and sectarianism go hand in hand.
I have as much interest in the royal family as i have in the Roman catholic church, get rid of both
st3vi 3 months ago
@st3vi I went to school 30 years ago, times have changed. Its not a theory, its a fact. There are many non catholics at my childrens school. Whether you have an interest in the royals is irrelevant, your tax funds them and they are part and parcel of British society but not open to RC`s. I suspect you have probably voted at some time? any thoughts on RC`s being banned from being Prime Minister? Dark ages indeed? You are clearly interested enough to comment on the RC church? Have a good weekend.
haroldbhoy67 3 months ago
@haroldbhoy67 Times have not changed, i can give you real life examples of non catholic kids not being accepted by a RC secondary, even though the school was a stones throw from their house, how many is"many" what percentage of non catholics at your childrens schools are not muslim just out of curiosity? Yes, my tax funds royals and RC schools and i protest at both, i believe in secular government with no favoritism for ANY faith or privileged elite, be that from rome or buckingham palace.
st3vi 3 months ago
@st3vi Times have certainly changed since I was at school, for the better, though admittedly I have not lived in Glasgow or Scotland for 20 years. There are children at my kids school from Asian families, they may be muslim, I dont know or care, its none of my business, a persons religion means nothing to me. I have always been of the opinion that religion is a personal and private thing. Anyway, been enjoyable debating with you without all the "orange this" or "fenian that" crap.
haroldbhoy67 3 months ago
catholics and prods will never see eye to eye up the contos fukkkkk the hun bastards
TheGleeson1987 6 months ago
@Joe Blow,The current catholic population at present is around 12% of the population(of which i am part)and the problem exists simply and purely because of the demonization of the Catholic church centuaries gone which has unfortunately been carried on to this day.
It's not our fault and as a catholic it's not my problem
iambeastLol 7 months ago
@iambeastLol HEY if its not any of your problems DONT open your mouth & if you do makes me THINK your part of the PROBLEM your all killing my country WITH YOUR BIGARTORY good message to send to your kids & what a role model you all are I am talking about both sides YOU make me ashamed
LVEMEDO 6 months ago
Rangers fans think there being great loyal british people by being anti catholic but i lived in e gland all my life and never had any grief for being catholic, so there trying a bit too hard.
Liam2621 9 months ago
so as an outisder, someone tell me, arent theyre any "scottish catholics" left in scotland? what happened to all the catholic highlanders?? the ones that werent shipped to nova scotia?? im not being ignorant on purpose,i really want to understand whats goin on here? i understand its alot about religion. can someone that wants to have an intelligent conversation email me please and enlighten me. also, how can one call themselves scottish and not want independence from england???? makes no sense
joeblow238 9 months ago
nice use of Apocalypse Now music at beginning :)
jimbob1969 11 months ago
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GlasgowRestaurants 1 year ago
sectarianism is about religion, singing Irish songs is about identity and politics. There is a big difference.
MrHarrylime79 1 year ago
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MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
MON THE HOOPS!!!!!!!
alen1122 1 year ago
15 secinds in... slopey lipped fag
Caveej 1 year ago
@Caveej
The gentleman your referring to is the owner of the the popular Rangers pub 'The Louden Tavern' . You could pop in and see him when your next up in our beloved city but may I recommend you don't refer to him as a 'slopey lipped fag' or you may indeed experience sectarianism up close and very personal. Regards.
wayofthecass 1 year ago 6
its in their fucking heads. drove around glasgow by parkhead and ibrox all day today, not a hint of sectarianism. it's in their smackhead heads.move to largs, its nice there. ENGLAND FOR THE ENGLISH!
Caveej 1 year ago
@Caveej
If you are looking for sectarianism can I recommend
A) Parkhead is where Celtic Park is but is not a Catholic area and indeed is right beside Bridgeton which is regarded as the heartland of traditional Glasgow Protestantism.
B) Come back up when the football is and there are supporters of some of the teams about.
C) Getting out of your car. It's difficult to 'experience' societies ills when moving around at 40 mph in a piece of steel with wheels and the radio on.
wayofthecass 1 year ago 2
@Caveej that is the least intelligent statement I have ever read
Poddymagee 1 year ago
bairds is great not so other irish pubs like the one across the road and oneills some act like hot head nazis puts them down little ratbags
bobodd5 1 year ago
SCOTLANDS SHAME......bigoted united.....
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
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Hypoguest 1 year ago
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Hypoguest 1 year ago
good documentary, well made.
love rabs accent :D
GlasgowCelticPat1888 1 year ago
why dont ya go home . oh , i know , cos the republics full of tatty munching kiddie fiddlers. wrtp
andyhun444 1 year ago
celtic was formed in glasgow so why should we go home a irish monk formed rangers as well u low iq horrible ugly ned !
bradleyira 1 year ago
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Hypoguest 1 year ago
I hate huns!!
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
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Hypoguest 1 year ago
@Hypoguest - back to where i come from?? hmmmmm........ I am Scottish, was born in Irvine central hospital. I have been to Ireland a couple of times on holiday so what are u on about? You are all traitors to Scotland - yous would rather be english than scottish. NAE CUNT LIKES YOUS SO FUK OFF!! yous are nothing but animals who cause trouble wherever u go, you are all filled with so much anger and bitterness. Thats why i really cant stand your kind... horrible horrible people..
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7
My dog had her pups in a stable.....guess what, they weren't horses.
Hypoguest 1 year ago
@Hypoguest - Your ignorance offends me... must be the protestant education.
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 nice bigoted comment, must have been your catholic education
amaffmaheid 1 year ago
@amaffmaheid - aye right ye are then fanny.
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 rather be a fanny than an ARSEHOLE
amaffmaheid 1 year ago
@amaffmaheid - rather be an arsehole than an ORANGE BASTARD.
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 keep showing yourself up with your SECTARIAN comments, the TRUE SHAME of Scotland.
amaffmaheid 1 year ago
@amaffmaheid listen tae it... u have a cheek to say i am sectarian when u support the most bigotted, bitter anti catholic football team in the modern day.
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 but your still a BIGOT, end of !!!!
amaffmaheid 1 year ago
@amaffmaheid at least I am a bigot for the good side and not the dark side.
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 another paedophile protector
amaffmaheid 1 year ago
@amaffmaheid - that comment just goes to show what you lot need to lower yourselves to. Got to laugh at you...
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 This refers to the sex scandal involving members of celtic boys club who are apart of celtic football club. Jock Stein knew about the child abuse going within the boys club, specifically youth coach Jim Torbett who raped players such as Alan Brazil. Jock Stein knew about this however he never went to the police, instead he covered the scandal up
jamesy15 1 year ago
@jamesy15 - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 and another catholic laughs at child aBUSE,,,nothing ever changes with these child molesting scum
jamesy15 1 year ago
@jamesy15 - Im laughing at how pathetic you people... in fact no.... ANIMALS are! Yous are the scum of this country, nobody likes you lot. You feel you have to make up these vile stories in order to score points. Truth is its you lot who are the ones who are sick with your horrible bigotry, bitterness, evil catholic hating selves. I will say it again and again - I am so glad I am not on the dark side but a good timaloy!
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 HOW CAN YOU MAKE THINGS UP THAT WENT TO TRIAL 2 CHARGED AND 1 JAILED, CHECK BBC NEWS, ITV AND ALL PRESS REPORTS,,,,CELTIC FC --ABUSING KIDS FROM 1888,,,CHILD MOLESTING SCUM,, AND YOU SAY NO ONE LIKES US,,,,TRUTH IS NO ONE LIKES YOU CHILD MOLESTING TRASH
jamesy15 1 year ago
@jamesy15 - That comment just goes to show how stupid you are! You believe everything you read in the paper and hear on the tele. I blame the protestant education system....
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 TAKE THOSE GREEN GLASSES OFF,,,,TRIAL OF 1997,, ASK YER DA IF YOU KNOW WHO HE IS
jamesy15 1 year ago
@jamesy15
Don't see what the sectarian issue has to do with the child molestation cases that occurred 30 years ago ( molestation is very different to rape by the way and Alan Brazil has never said he was raped) or the unfounded and libelous claims that Jock Stein ( a Protestant by the way) in some way 'covered up' Jim Torbett's actions.
wayofthecass 1 year ago
@wayofthecass couldnt give a fuck what religeon stein was,, is that your way of trying to justify child abuse , i am athiest so it doesnt matter to me,,celtic knew aBOUT THE ABUSE AND DONE NOTHING-SCOTLANDS TRUE SHAME AND NOTHING EVER COMPARES TO YOU CHILD MOLESTING SCUM
jamesy15 1 year ago
@jamesy15
Mmmm...then why did you bring religion in to it?
Again your unfounded allegations against Stein are relevant to the sectarian issue in what way?
wayofthecass 1 year ago
@Quinnbhoy7 the pope is a german hun, one of hitlers youth,,, so i am glad we both hate someone together
jamesy15 1 year ago
@jamesy15 You're so full a shit wee saks! away pump yer sister ya wee hun faggot!
Quinnbhoy7 1 year ago 4
@Quinnbhoy7 truth hurt smelly...what a comeback
jamesy15 1 year ago
Good documentary, man. Very informative, and provided a pretty fair perspective on the situation with these two teams.
bedwettinglib 1 year ago
fuck the ra !!
cairnsy06 1 year ago
go home the famine is over
hullohulloRFC 1 year ago
or bigoted united?
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
you don't class yourself as a bigot? well let me educate you? you are..........read the words you are singing?
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
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MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
te two teams should get together and call themselves rancel utd lolololololol
andy2u69 1 year ago
rangers and celtic fans are mugs, if it wasnt for football none of them would even care about irish politics, they want to sort themselves out
Liam2621 1 year ago
@Liam2621 Utter shite mate.
DazaMac1888 1 year ago
im not sure it is, theres just as many irish people in places like manchester or london but theres no such thing as secterianism there
Liam2621 1 year ago
3 different football tops a season for £50 a pop which are made in the far-east for as little as £1.50 good deal.Players who you idolise are only interested in the dough not you.Over-inflated ticket prices waken up these clubs are using you£££££££££££££££££.WHY ARE YOU KILLING EACH OTHER FOR?CAN'T YOU SEE YOUR BEING USED?
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
brainwashed lemmings.
MegaTrainspotter 1 year ago
robbie keane..!!!! legend.. kyle lafferty joke..
pires091 2 years ago 2
the plantations over why dont all the huns go home out of the north and south of ireland
mufc1970ok 2 years ago
let the people sing their story's and their songs! and the music of their native land! their lulabys and battle crys and songs of hope and joy so join us hand in hand!!!!
Hunh8tr 2 years ago
SINGIN IM NO A BILLY HES A TIM the sell out play is back on tour...Have A look at Im No A Billy hes A Tim Clip
joywil1 2 years ago
the famines over, why don't you go home?
1000hoursmore 2 years ago
Wow, that's original.You must have an IQ of like ten milion to have thought that up, you motherfucking genius...
jeffdolan 2 years ago
Why dont you fuck off back into your cave?
martyc7 2 years ago
Ironic comment, consider the word Scottish originally meant Irish.
NorthLimitation 2 years ago
Well played man wi puttin the Scarface theme on this vid'. Top tune.
JesusCommando 2 years ago
what a shit pub bairds is
OhYesHeKnew 2 years ago 2
@OhYesHeKnew What a shit whole yer maw's baird is.
TheBhoyJoe 1 year ago
the cunt in bairds bar @ 1;30 looks like he needs a good wash . ive seen him selling big issue in argyle street watp
gorbalschosenfew 2 years ago 2
l love Sectarianism haha
chugger2hotty 2 years ago 2
scottish people are about 100 years behind english, no sane person in england cares about shit like this
h60562 2 years ago
thats because you don't live here or experience it you ignorant fuck!
TCB910 2 years ago
you only do it cause the other side do it, rangers and celtic need each other more than they care to admit, one would be uselss without the other
h60562 2 years ago
I have no doubt that Calvinism formed part of actual sectarian bigotry (Lord Gordon, a Scots Presbytarian in England ignited the Gordon Riots for instance). But to ignore the part which Fenianism, a totalitarian, bigoted ideology played would be intellectual dishonestly. Fenianism is not Catholicism, it is a subversive ideology derived from the French Revolution, similar to Bolshevism. It deserves to be condemed in whole.
Counterrevolutionite 2 years ago
gptp2 how the fuck can you sing a tune ? were you abused as a kid at your sectarain apartheid schools
sirjimtorbett 2 years ago 2
So basically, as an example, Boys of the old brigade is banned at parkhead for 1 referance to the IRA (The old IRA, who were a completely legitmate army) and we can be arrested for singing that. Meanwhile, you can't even refer to someone's skin colour as "black" because thats apparently racist, yet the orange order are allowed to march through streets singing about being "up 2 their knees in fenian blood"
Work it out for yourselves! the british government is a bunch of dirty fascist orange cunts
GODBLESSTHEPROVOS 2 years ago
i agree wit u there mate!! The IRA are freedom fighters, i mean why are britain in ireland in the 1st place?? they have no business with ireland at all!!!
shahrid1987 2 years ago
Fuck The Ira
No Surrender
YGX1JIH 2 years ago
Is this a home crafted doc? It's quite good.
Raffzeee 2 years ago
Yes indeed it is. Please check the info section on the top right of the page. Your kind words are much appreciated.
wayofthecass 2 years ago
history ma arse you fenian bastard
gaffpaulscot 2 years ago
fuk the huns!!!!!
Ayrshirebhoy 3 years ago
went to bairds bar recently what a pub great people. at the end of the day celtic was formed on the irish migrants so we have our right to sing our songs. we were oppressed people at the time. and i dont care who you are or where you come from you dont forget your past.because you will never know were you are heading... ALBA GU BRAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
broncs08 3 years ago
hail hail! mon the hoops !
irishredrose81 3 years ago
but sorry the dude from galway was talking pure garbage
riskyjab 3 years ago
jim mullen
couldnt agree more
why can rangers be allowed to sing about the british army yet celtic cant sing about the irish republican army
wierd
riskyjab 3 years ago 2
Because The Brittish Army Is A Legal Organisation with Protestants And Catholics In it.
The Ira Are Child Killing Scum... And Its Rangers That Arnt Allowed Tae Sing Anythin
YGX1JIH 2 years ago
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inveravondrive 3 years ago
To chelsealuvsrangers...not all ulsterscots share the same views as ranger fans do, infact there is an ulster party in northern ireland that support northern irelands independence from Britain.
neilsf4m 3 years ago
fenian bastards, die WATP
gillrfcfyc 3 years ago
is this for real?
bhoyracer67 3 years ago
and what makes you the people you tit?!
liamwightman2008 2 years ago
most "football" fans are thick as shit and just "follow da game" cause thats what there scummy family have done/their thick mates follow it. Mostly for stupid people.
tartansam 3 years ago
Im from Northern Ireland and rangers fans are scummy bastards.
UlsterJohn1690 3 years ago
wait how can u think rangers fans are scummy bastards when u support the red hand of ulster just like all rangers fans, ur either really thick mate or a fenain in disguise lol, get it sorted u fukin idiot!
chelsealuvsrangers 3 years ago
celtic and rangers are both bigoted bastards. The red hand has nothing to do with rangers fc.
UlsterJohn1690 3 years ago
maybe u shud state that in ur comment then instead of sayin its rangers fans that are scummy bastards ok! casue after all were simply the best:D
chelsealuvsrangers 3 years ago
your shite, i support man u. rangers and celtic are both crap. United! united!
UlsterJohn1690 3 years ago
aye man utd are actually quite good especially when they beat that fenian scum last month:D ha ha u twat
chelsealuvsrangers 3 years ago
at least they make it into the big euro league and have won a euro cup. give them some credit. Rangers hate man u, i googled it and its because of irish man u players down the years, ignorant pricks
UlsterJohn1690 3 years ago
give them some credit they won the european cup before utd and liverpool. i googled why rangers fans hate man u and you are ignorant cunts
UlsterJohn1690 3 years ago
simply the best at not being able to spell!!!!!
bhoyracer67 3 years ago
i find it really funny that some twat would come on here and leave a comment when they have 1690 in their name, if you know history you'll know thats fucking evil.
I'm a follower of James because i'm scottish and in that i would have to say i sympathize to a degree with Ireland with their cause but i am a Scottish Catholic Celtic fan who tries to keep my political views out of Football and i dont think singing songs is bad at all.
Look at the negativity of rap lyrics and the effect is has.
TamOwaR 3 years ago
nice wallpaper.fucking shithole
hilly1690 3 years ago
up the celts
SouthDownIPLO 3 years ago
what a midden that bairds bar is,,,i support hamilton and went in there with some mates for a drink, we had to walk over a guy lying at the door with a bottle of buckfast in his hand,,,tables hadnt been cleaned since god knows when,toilets no paper, no hand towels, mates are celtic fans, but even they walked out after 1 drink
jamesy15 3 years ago
What a load of shit the sooner people start caring about real issues like who's selling drugs to young people etc in the community the better, freemasonry divides people and makes the community fight amongst itself. If you love your kids keep them away from all of this shit. Also religous predjudice does exist and it's wrong but is bringing your kids up to follow Celtic or Rangers going to help or just carry this stupidness on? No matter what anyone claims it's only about bigotry!
strawberryfields1982 3 years ago 5
Yur right a hink its tit for tat a hink bath of us should be aloud tae sing what we want. Cos theres mer kick up aboot is no than there is we can no wit a mean.
Dirtybeest 3 years ago
It's just daftness all rival football teams hate each other, but the difference with this is it carrys on after the match because of the religon thing, it's still hard having a Irish name(being christened a catholic) you don't get the same chances in life, thats true they here your name, or what school you went to, and it's like oh we've no work sorry son! Your better off being black than Irish/Catholic in Britain today! Not that there's anyhing wrong with being black, at least you have rights!
strawberryfields1982 3 years ago
am a Rangers fan n agree wit the bar manager,i av stopped singning the banned songs at ibrox but it dnt stop me singin the songs outside am not saying am a bigot or even believe in half the things am sayin altoh i do sum but it mainly jst a bit of banter. i wud b happier if BOTH teams cud sign wot they want in the stadium as the atmosphere is alot better but i believe the media r the biggest shame in scotland
bluenose1402 3 years ago
Mate fair dos hands =doon am a ninty minute bigot and maybe a wee bit mer. End a the 4-2 game a came hame went er tae ma pal whos a man a the rangers badge. Shook hes hon and said yees played well. Well done and that was it.
Dirtybeest 3 years ago
Am not protestant nor catholic, am agnostic. Though I found catholics are far more civilized. I this Britain should become a republic, thus a democracy instead of being queen's slaves.
SALFUL1974 3 years ago
If people want to live in a republic, they can immigrate to one. The Fenian worldview contradicts the Catholic worldview. Most European Catholics, including ones in Britain are monarchists. The effeminate ideology of Fenianism, which constructs a mythical bastardisation of the past to assault the cornerstones of Western Civilisation (behind the mask of false "patriotism") must be wiped from the face of th earth, along with their Marxist brethren. God Save the Queen.
Counterrevolutionite 2 years ago
How can you promote the Satanic creed of republicanism, while living in Jordan? It is because of Jordan's monarchy, rejecting the communist worldview, that it is the most stable country in the entire Middle East.
Counterrevolutionite 2 years ago
what a dump. mind you probably better than most their houses.
ab1272 3 years ago
fuck you seen the louden, the bristol and the calvy club haha fuck theyre fightin wae 1 another everyweek, loyalist junkie bastards.
realmann7 3 years ago
You losers do more damage to Scotland than any English army ever did - and I mean both of you - the green and the blue - you're maggots in the face of that beautiful country.
Gozzillacia 3 years ago
o rly
ScottishStu4rt 3 years ago
The baldy guy taked the most sense...
daviefayglasgow 3 years ago
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big jock knew, oh big jock knew, oh big jock knew
beatboaby 3 years ago
you are a weirdo mate.
paolojf 3 years ago 3
wot a bunch of uneducated goons!!!
delboy301084 3 years ago
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the famines over its time to go home
na14beer 3 years ago
aye very good - another of englands whores are ye? this kinda comment is typical or the knuckle dragging shitpit dwellers.
"We guarded the vestments of faith long ago, We stand now on Guard, above and below"
TheRebelJoker 3 years ago
y don't prods get out of ireland then
bjk308 3 years ago 2
bunch of ignorant clowns
crazyboaby 3 years ago
fuck you crazyboaby ha ha jakey wanker
affmaheid 3 years ago
im a rangers fans and not once have i ever sang a sectarian song and im a season ticket holder. why the fuck would i care what happened in ireland years ago even though im a catholic?
ive been past bairds bar when ive been up the barra's and its one of the most sectarian bars you'll ever see. i think the pub should be shut down and that goes for sectarian rangers pubs aswell
j86mcb 3 years ago
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celtic are not sectearin
1967YAbass 3 years ago
get all those cunts fae bairds bar back tae fuckin ireland in fact id deport all tims
affmaheid 3 years ago
back tae ireland? ok... i think you will find the majority are Scottish. Fukin stupit fanny!! hahah typical fukin fat tattoo riden hun faced wee cunts!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! i fukin hate yeeeezzzz!! yous are evil bastarts!!
ryanbhoy7 3 years ago 3
your the stupid fanny aye they wee rodents in bairds bar might be scottish but my point is youz all want to be irish ya fuckin inbred fenian you all wear irish tops and sing irish songs so do us all a favour and fuck off over there ya stupid ugly wee peado prick
affmaheid 3 years ago
affmaheid - i could say the same about you cunts!! you's ugly bastards hold up red hand of ulster flags! why dont you fuck off to northern ireland then!!!!!????? so shut yer fukin mouth ya orange bastart! oh aye and yous wear fukin england tops anaw!! wits that all about!? - i can honestly say that i wid rather wear an ireland tops than a fukin english one!!
ryanbhoy7 3 years ago
ya beauty
jamierourketen 3 years ago
little boys and there troubles , will they ever grow up ? who cares.
bastardtubeuser 3 years ago 3
thanks for showing it for what it is.
johnbhouy1 4 years ago
there was sectarianism in liverpool my family were forced out of ireland into the slums of liverpool at least eventually most of the irish catholics to the council estates like croxteth and kirkby
bjk308 4 years ago
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would all you child molesting celtic fans cover up child abuse like big jock. i fucking hope not but by the look of some of those cretins in bairds bar i am not so sure. who shagged aw the boys you soap dodgin cunts
jakeshaws 4 years ago
why dont you take your evidence down to bairds bar and show the locals , im sure they will give you what you deserve , you ignoramis
cockadoodeldo 4 years ago
This BJK thing was just something trumped up by some knuckle dragging clandestine sad men,because their songs of hatred were attracting too much attention from the UEFA etc,therefore a substitute had to be found to appease the masses. Jakeshaws, chill the f*ck out , and kiss my papish a*se!!!
funk67 4 years ago
Big Jock was some man and a fine protestant.
Ballbagcrusher2007 3 years ago
jim mullen of bairds bar looks like another paedophile like torbett.large jock knew you fuckin child molesting bastards. covering up paedophilia use should be ashamed of yourselves tattie munchin scum. no place for paedos
jakeshaws 4 years ago
end of the day Celtic will always be the better team and the better looking team!! so lets just leave it at that.
Tiocfaidh Ar La!!
ryanbhoy7 4 years ago 4
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your day will never come ya soap dodjin dirty bead rattlin. pope lovin.tatty munchin.wee peado
affmaheid 3 years ago
MON THE CELTS
SCelticOTLAND 4 years ago
The Louden tavern owner is thick the sash isn't sectarian but the people who go in there and sing no ope of rome are sectarian therfore its a sectarian pub
bjk308 4 years ago
this film is shameful, denying a problem that patently exists will not help Catholics move towards equal status in Scotland
u03njw7 4 years ago
u03njw7
Spare me your melodrama. At no point is the problem denied. This is a patent fabrication on your part.
The accounts given in the 4 parts come from a broad spectrum of the cultural divide in Central Scotland. Nil By Mouth, Celtic and Rangers FC as well as the Scottish Executive were invited to take part and all refused. I'm not going to apologise for questioning Jack McConnell's true motives or the authenticity of his claims even if it does threaten your safe little world.
wayofthecass 4 years ago
The problem is clearly unstated in your "documentary", and surely you are the one living in the "safe little world" if you're not calling for these songs to be outlawed. I'm living in the real world mate speaking out against sectarianism.
It's no surprise you got the sources you did and the one's above ignored you because the film is useless and amateurish. You peddle the status quo, which stinks.
u03njw7 4 years ago
Of course it amateurish. It was done on a zero budget. This is acknowledged in 'About this video'. Though people are watching it and discussing it. Your on the sidelines whining and giving nothing.
The documentary is not about sectarianism. It is about its existence in reality and attitudes towards it. As for your slanderous remark about picking my sources it goes to show how low your argument has fallen. no opinion of your own just a personal attack based on cheap insults and baseless claims.
wayofthecass 4 years ago
I think this film is dangerous and if you think I'm not offering any opinions reread what I've wrote properly.
"The documentary...attitudes towards it." You're confused as is this film!
Look, I applaud you for making a film, but when in you're film do you denounce lines such as, "up to our knees in fenian blood" and "dirty orange bastards"? do you condemn such remarks? That is where I am confused.
I'm away back to the real world for now.
u03njw7 4 years ago
So if one offers the opinion which is indeed a statistical fact that sectarianism is not the horrendous social blight in central Scotland which it is made out to be then they are being "dangerous"?
As for being confused how is that? Like I said this documentary was not about sectarianism in the sense I study and offer evidence of it. It is an analysis of how the people who are meant to be affected by it feel and not how the MSPs do.
wayofthecass 4 years ago
I think most people interviewed denounced the lines you stated. Can I ask do you denounce hip-hop music and stand up comedians such as Bill Hicks etc or just Celtic and Rangers fans? Infinitely more offensive things have been spouted in the name of entertainment and in the celebration of freedom of speech by those parties in comparison to ancient cultural chants.
wayofthecass 4 years ago
guy with the beard was talking a bit of sense but he blew it on the celtic guy with a scarf on getting attacked ..does it not happen the other way to ?????????? of course it does end of story
eatmyshortsAAAAA 4 years ago
how do u empty bairds bar quickly....... throw a bar of soap in
eatmyshortsAAAAA 4 years ago
i wonder if you can catch something of just watching this bar on the screen. i feel like scratching
ascscotlandsbest 4 years ago
Good stuff man. I'm using this to show to a bunch of young people for educational purposes. I'll let you konw what they think...
kyletitterton 4 years ago
this might be a shocker for any staunt rangers fans but we ALL came from ireland! the first scots were dalriadans and they were irish! and this guy on this video moaning about his freedom of expression is a fuckin disgrace, freedom of expression comes at a price! its not a licence for rage and hate!
themadscotsman28 4 years ago
think if you look up m8 scots didnt all come from the irish cant remember the exact name but like the name ritchie actually came off the french so sort of blows that out the water
eatmyshortsAAAAA 4 years ago
aw fur fucks sake! so i suppose you think were all french then eh! im no stupid i do realise that scotland was formed by a combination of different cultures, what iam saying is that the first people that the romans called the scots WERE IRISH!
themadscotsman28 4 years ago
think if u look up the ritchies name they actually came off the french so we the scots are not all off the irish
eatmyshortsAAAAA 4 years ago
how can the soldiers song be secterian when the republic sing it before internationals. most rangers fans rhun scum anyway. up the ra
joethetim1916 4 years ago
yaaaaaaaaaaas tiocfaidh ar la
continuity ira-real ira
foward to freedom
celtic soccer crew 1
vtwrfb 4 years ago
these people have limited vocabulary if you listen closely
tich123 4 years ago
Amen to that MainStMafia
uniquemarine 4 years ago