Who is the arbiter of fair? One man's fairness could be another man's greed.
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This is the true evil of Obama's words. They are whatever you want them to be or mean, because he phrases his talking points to have that exact effect.
Yes, but when there was no income tax before 1913, what is their fair share? I think you start at zero, cut the government by 80% and let the people keep their money.. Fire a bunch of worthless government workers and go from there.
@SuperGuitarman69 ... Fair share? In 1901, J.P. Morgan became America's first billionaire at a time when the average salary in the U.S. was $546...PER YEAR.
@emantabrizi How did he become wealthy? Well Woodrow Wilson (a progressive) the same thing that Obama is, signed into law the Federal Reserve system.. That set JP Morgan up beautifully in a crony capitalist system.. He became extremely wealthy after that.. Nothing wrong with someone earning a lot of money by succeeding all for that.. I am also for a flat or fair tax.. Where everyone pays in the same %.. That is truly fair.. Rich people are not evil.. Those who try to steal are!
@emantabrizi Why? Because of banking crony capitalism that he was only able to obtain through government.. He didn't screw the free market.. He used government to get what he wanted.. Regulations that favored his own interests.. That is the progressive movement.. See, those like Obama are all for those within the Federal Reserve (the elitists) becoming uber rich.. He is against American entrepreneurship creating wealth by hard work.. You are too stupid to see the difference
@SuperGuitarman69 ... How is Obama against American entrepreneurship? Please, cite some specific examples. While you're at it, hold back on the name-calling. You're not going to accomplish anything with that nonsense.
@emantabrizi Are you kidding me? High taxation.. He set loose the EPA to do virtually anything that he wanted.. We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world.. That lying sack of shit tonight on his state of the Union Address started to speak on the subject.. And what was his ideas? To close tax loopholes for companies that exist here.. That is why the ones who left left in the first place.. He cut off the pipeline which would have saved businesses hugely.. He finally Part 1
@SuperGuitarman69 ... You weren't paying attention. He clearly stated that he wanted to give tax breaks to corporations that STOPPED shipping jobs overseas...something that's been happening for 30 years, BTW. He cut-off the pipeline? Are you referring to the Keystone XL project? He didn't shut the door on that project. It's still on the table.
@emantabrizi No he did not.. What he said was that he was going to tax them on their profits.. Which means that he is punishing them for being overseas.. And companies overseas benefits the USA.. Whether you are working for a company or not, if you buy a computer manufactured in China, you might pay 200.. But in the United States if the company was here with the highest tax rate in the world.. Unions that are pushing to get over the labor market equilibrium wages that same Part 1
@emantabrizi computer costs 1000 dollars.. So where is the benefit again for the company to come back to the states? And where is the benefit to the American citizen who is now paying 800 more for a computer.. For most people that is a lot.. And on Obamacare? Hey guess what? I DO own a business.. I can tell you flat out, if I had to put my employees on health insurance? 5 of them would be history.. Obamacare is NOT an opt out of having to pay for it.. Oh no no no no.. What it Part 2
@emantabrizi gave up on the Bush tax cuts, because of the fact he never would have been reelected if he did.. He plays the rich should pay more card right out of the radical Saul Alinski play book.. It goes deeper than that though.. He WANTS America to fail.. he knows this cannot be accomplished with his Presidency alone, but he has made great strides in it with Obamacare which is a mandate to business, which costs them piles of cash.. Hence why they make cut backs... Get it now?
@SuperGuitarman69 ... My God, you are uninformed. He wanted to keep the tax cuts for everyone making less than $1 million a year. The GOP wanted all-or-nothing. He compromised because everyone's taxes would have increased. He wants America to fail? Where do you get this nonsense? Glenn Beck? Businesses would actually save money with "Obamacare" because they would no longer have to provide health benefits. Get it now?
@emantabrizi It is a federal mandate that requires US to pick up that tab.. By LAW!!! Now, I am small so my employees can take care of their own insurance.. The only reason companies pick up the tab is to compete for better workers.. Benefits are a good tool to do that.. But on small business, such as mine, we cannot afford that.. We are trying to become the bigger guys.. And if WE decide to pick up the health insurance tab, it is OUR choice.. Government is FORCING it down Part 3
@emantabrizi our throats.. I nor can any business afford this.. When Microsoft, GE, Shell, Apple, or Henry Ford had this when they were starting off? You wouldn't be typing on a computer right now.. They would be so outrageously expensive very few would have them.. Hope you are following along and learning.. Now, a bit more on Obamacare so that you understand this even further and will educate yourself.. Not only are we FORCED to provide health insurance to our employees.. We Part 4
@emantabrizi will see shortly there after an increase in taxation to us businesses to pay for the Obamacare service... See, to you the leftist money can be printed out of thin air.. Money grows on trees.. But in the real world of economics it doesn't.. It has to be TAKEN from those who are successful and businesses to pay for it.. So you will see taxes go up.. In direct terms and indirect terms in hidden taxes that other businesses do business with and in turn we buy from part 5
@emantabrizi with them passing the extra cost onto US the buyer of their product.. Get it now???? Now in regards to Bush.. I have my on it's with the Bush administration.. But mainly with congress not with him.. They spent and spent.. The wars only account for 20% of the federal mandated spending.. So regardless of your thoughts on the war, no it didn't even make a dent in what is being spent daily.. Entitlements SS, medicaid, medicare and welfare takes up nearly 65% of the part 6
@emantabrizi budget.. That is where the problem lies.. Now in regards to spending? Bush spent 4 trillion dollars in 8 years.. Unheard of and pissed us conservatives off.. Obama? 5 trillion in 3 years.. Bush 1.8 billion a day.. Obama 4.6 trillion a day.. He printed money for the stimulus (and I have a degree in economics from Washington U in St.Louis don't EVEN get me started on that) and devalued the currency on top of doing nothing which any economist will tell you the same Part 7
@emantabrizi thing.. SURPLUS? Let me explain how surpluses happen.. A balanced budget.. The President doesn't do that congress does.. Who was in control of congress during the years that created the surplus and balanced the budget for the first time since the 1920's? THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.. Who led the charge on that balanced budget? Oh my my my none other than Newt Gingrich.. That is why there is a surplus.. And Clinton fought it, then took credit for it.. What a schmuck.. Part 8
@emantabrizi Bush spent 4 trillion dollars (well congress did) on his watch over the course of 8 years, which pissed off conservatives and libertarians alike.. Then along comes Obama and spends 5 trillion in 3 years.. Stimulus that went straight to teachers and government workers when it should have went to tax breaks and regulation relief to corporations to get government off their backs.. The ONLY thing government can do is get out of the way.. GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE JOBS
@SuperGuitarman69 ... Bush entered office with a budget SURPLUS which he quickly turned into a DEFICIT. Bush then increased the national debt by $6 trillion, not $4 trillion, and that doesn't even include the final cost of his invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. The "stimulus" went to more than just government workers (teachers are government workers, too). Corporations don't need "regulation relief." They've had record profits over the last two years.
@emantabrizi And this is the last thing.. Profits? ARE NOT EVIL!! This country is the wealthiest country on the planet due to profits.. Everything you have came from a company who were pursuing profits.So end that bullshit right now!!! In regards to why I think Obama is collapsing America on purpose?Everything economically I have taught you Obama knows.. So why does he continue to do the wrong things?Risking reelection and all? He is either incredibly stupid? Or he wants us to fall!
@SuperGuitarman69 ... Jesus fucking Christ. How many posts does it take for you to get a point across? Seven fucking parts? You have WAY too much time on your hands for being a "business owner." LOL
@emantabrizi I appreciate the fact you took the time to read them.. I can type blistering fast.. College taught me that in a big way.. Have a good one.
@emantabrizi Oh and none of it matters.. If there is a Republican house and senate along with whomever is our new President in 2012, Obamacare will be repealed and we can remember the Obama Presidency as the first black President and leave it as that for history.. However, if he remains in office? He will officially bring down the Democratic party for 30 years or better.
@SuperGuitarman69 ... You clearly haven't been watching the Republican debates. The Democratic party is far from being in danger. The GOP, on the other hand, embarrasses themselves with every passing debate. Gingrich? Romney? Santorum? Paul? Republicans everywhere want option E: none of the above.
@emantabrizi See, in free markets free of government, people have to compete.. Which drives down prices and the market picks the winners and losers.. So if you have a great product and succeed? That is GREAT!! Good for you and as a country we should be proud of that.. But no, not you the thieving leftist.. You are weak dumb and stupid and jealous.. So you want to take their money.. But see, the leftist capitalist? Creates legislation to make them curry favor.. Regulation is bad mkay
LOL, Reagan using a teleprompter...and Obama not using one. This video will make GOP heads explode.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
Who is the arbiter of fair? One man's fairness could be another man's greed.
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This is the true evil of Obama's words. They are whatever you want them to be or mean, because he phrases his talking points to have that exact effect.
Blastbarnacle 1 month ago
Yes, but when there was no income tax before 1913, what is their fair share? I think you start at zero, cut the government by 80% and let the people keep their money.. Fire a bunch of worthless government workers and go from there.
SuperGuitarman69 3 months ago 3
@SuperGuitarman69 ... Fair share? In 1901, J.P. Morgan became America's first billionaire at a time when the average salary in the U.S. was $546...PER YEAR.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi How did he become wealthy? Well Woodrow Wilson (a progressive) the same thing that Obama is, signed into law the Federal Reserve system.. That set JP Morgan up beautifully in a crony capitalist system.. He became extremely wealthy after that.. Nothing wrong with someone earning a lot of money by succeeding all for that.. I am also for a flat or fair tax.. Where everyone pays in the same %.. That is truly fair.. Rich people are not evil.. Those who try to steal are!
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... The Federal Reserve system was created 12 years AFTER Morgan became a billionaire.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi Why? Because of banking crony capitalism that he was only able to obtain through government.. He didn't screw the free market.. He used government to get what he wanted.. Regulations that favored his own interests.. That is the progressive movement.. See, those like Obama are all for those within the Federal Reserve (the elitists) becoming uber rich.. He is against American entrepreneurship creating wealth by hard work.. You are too stupid to see the difference
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... How is Obama against American entrepreneurship? Please, cite some specific examples. While you're at it, hold back on the name-calling. You're not going to accomplish anything with that nonsense.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi Are you kidding me? High taxation.. He set loose the EPA to do virtually anything that he wanted.. We have the highest corporate tax rate in the world.. That lying sack of shit tonight on his state of the Union Address started to speak on the subject.. And what was his ideas? To close tax loopholes for companies that exist here.. That is why the ones who left left in the first place.. He cut off the pipeline which would have saved businesses hugely.. He finally Part 1
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... You weren't paying attention. He clearly stated that he wanted to give tax breaks to corporations that STOPPED shipping jobs overseas...something that's been happening for 30 years, BTW. He cut-off the pipeline? Are you referring to the Keystone XL project? He didn't shut the door on that project. It's still on the table.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi No he did not.. What he said was that he was going to tax them on their profits.. Which means that he is punishing them for being overseas.. And companies overseas benefits the USA.. Whether you are working for a company or not, if you buy a computer manufactured in China, you might pay 200.. But in the United States if the company was here with the highest tax rate in the world.. Unions that are pushing to get over the labor market equilibrium wages that same Part 1
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi computer costs 1000 dollars.. So where is the benefit again for the company to come back to the states? And where is the benefit to the American citizen who is now paying 800 more for a computer.. For most people that is a lot.. And on Obamacare? Hey guess what? I DO own a business.. I can tell you flat out, if I had to put my employees on health insurance? 5 of them would be history.. Obamacare is NOT an opt out of having to pay for it.. Oh no no no no.. What it Part 2
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi gave up on the Bush tax cuts, because of the fact he never would have been reelected if he did.. He plays the rich should pay more card right out of the radical Saul Alinski play book.. It goes deeper than that though.. He WANTS America to fail.. he knows this cannot be accomplished with his Presidency alone, but he has made great strides in it with Obamacare which is a mandate to business, which costs them piles of cash.. Hence why they make cut backs... Get it now?
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... My God, you are uninformed. He wanted to keep the tax cuts for everyone making less than $1 million a year. The GOP wanted all-or-nothing. He compromised because everyone's taxes would have increased. He wants America to fail? Where do you get this nonsense? Glenn Beck? Businesses would actually save money with "Obamacare" because they would no longer have to provide health benefits. Get it now?
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi It is a federal mandate that requires US to pick up that tab.. By LAW!!! Now, I am small so my employees can take care of their own insurance.. The only reason companies pick up the tab is to compete for better workers.. Benefits are a good tool to do that.. But on small business, such as mine, we cannot afford that.. We are trying to become the bigger guys.. And if WE decide to pick up the health insurance tab, it is OUR choice.. Government is FORCING it down Part 3
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi our throats.. I nor can any business afford this.. When Microsoft, GE, Shell, Apple, or Henry Ford had this when they were starting off? You wouldn't be typing on a computer right now.. They would be so outrageously expensive very few would have them.. Hope you are following along and learning.. Now, a bit more on Obamacare so that you understand this even further and will educate yourself.. Not only are we FORCED to provide health insurance to our employees.. We Part 4
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi will see shortly there after an increase in taxation to us businesses to pay for the Obamacare service... See, to you the leftist money can be printed out of thin air.. Money grows on trees.. But in the real world of economics it doesn't.. It has to be TAKEN from those who are successful and businesses to pay for it.. So you will see taxes go up.. In direct terms and indirect terms in hidden taxes that other businesses do business with and in turn we buy from part 5
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi with them passing the extra cost onto US the buyer of their product.. Get it now???? Now in regards to Bush.. I have my on it's with the Bush administration.. But mainly with congress not with him.. They spent and spent.. The wars only account for 20% of the federal mandated spending.. So regardless of your thoughts on the war, no it didn't even make a dent in what is being spent daily.. Entitlements SS, medicaid, medicare and welfare takes up nearly 65% of the part 6
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi budget.. That is where the problem lies.. Now in regards to spending? Bush spent 4 trillion dollars in 8 years.. Unheard of and pissed us conservatives off.. Obama? 5 trillion in 3 years.. Bush 1.8 billion a day.. Obama 4.6 trillion a day.. He printed money for the stimulus (and I have a degree in economics from Washington U in St.Louis don't EVEN get me started on that) and devalued the currency on top of doing nothing which any economist will tell you the same Part 7
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi thing.. SURPLUS? Let me explain how surpluses happen.. A balanced budget.. The President doesn't do that congress does.. Who was in control of congress during the years that created the surplus and balanced the budget for the first time since the 1920's? THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.. Who led the charge on that balanced budget? Oh my my my none other than Newt Gingrich.. That is why there is a surplus.. And Clinton fought it, then took credit for it.. What a schmuck.. Part 8
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi Bush spent 4 trillion dollars (well congress did) on his watch over the course of 8 years, which pissed off conservatives and libertarians alike.. Then along comes Obama and spends 5 trillion in 3 years.. Stimulus that went straight to teachers and government workers when it should have went to tax breaks and regulation relief to corporations to get government off their backs.. The ONLY thing government can do is get out of the way.. GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE JOBS
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... Bush entered office with a budget SURPLUS which he quickly turned into a DEFICIT. Bush then increased the national debt by $6 trillion, not $4 trillion, and that doesn't even include the final cost of his invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. The "stimulus" went to more than just government workers (teachers are government workers, too). Corporations don't need "regulation relief." They've had record profits over the last two years.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi And this is the last thing.. Profits? ARE NOT EVIL!! This country is the wealthiest country on the planet due to profits.. Everything you have came from a company who were pursuing profits.So end that bullshit right now!!! In regards to why I think Obama is collapsing America on purpose?Everything economically I have taught you Obama knows.. So why does he continue to do the wrong things?Risking reelection and all? He is either incredibly stupid? Or he wants us to fall!
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... Jesus fucking Christ. How many posts does it take for you to get a point across? Seven fucking parts? You have WAY too much time on your hands for being a "business owner." LOL
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi I appreciate the fact you took the time to read them.. I can type blistering fast.. College taught me that in a big way.. Have a good one.
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@emantabrizi Oh and none of it matters.. If there is a Republican house and senate along with whomever is our new President in 2012, Obamacare will be repealed and we can remember the Obama Presidency as the first black President and leave it as that for history.. However, if he remains in office? He will officially bring down the Democratic party for 30 years or better.
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69 ... You clearly haven't been watching the Republican debates. The Democratic party is far from being in danger. The GOP, on the other hand, embarrasses themselves with every passing debate. Gingrich? Romney? Santorum? Paul? Republicans everywhere want option E: none of the above.
emantabrizi 1 month ago
@emantabrizi See, in free markets free of government, people have to compete.. Which drives down prices and the market picks the winners and losers.. So if you have a great product and succeed? That is GREAT!! Good for you and as a country we should be proud of that.. But no, not you the thieving leftist.. You are weak dumb and stupid and jealous.. So you want to take their money.. But see, the leftist capitalist? Creates legislation to make them curry favor.. Regulation is bad mkay
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
Reagan wouldn't have been the GOP nominee today.
greatercc 3 months ago 6