Focus attacks are so much better. Although I believe 3rd strike is the best ever SF game, I found it ridiculous that one could parry an opponents entire Super Art.
The 3s characters didn't get parry. But I get what you mean. Unfortunately makoto players will have to adapt their gameplay to SF 4 style. Dudley and ibuki play great though .
question for everyone: what is your fav and why? SF4 or SF3: 3rd Strike?...personally i like 3rd strike cuz spamming projectiles wont fly in 3rd strike
he's zoning it just works better in sf4 then 3rd strike and in sf4 the speed most fireball come out is abysmal and it's almost never safe to use unless your on the other side of the screen or in a combo. the fireballs are alot safer to use in sf3 but easy to parry and with high-jumps screws it over. i prefer sf3 personally too. now the original sf2 was a spam fest no doubt. i love it when people span in sf4 as there are so many easy ways to counter. unless there using sagat.
LOL at people talking about ppl/top players "Zoning" not Spamming Tiger shots you fucking babies..grow a pair and man up or go back to button masher Doa4 lol
approach the opponent??? not easy since this game favors turtling
sagats super slow so its better to get the opponent to sagat rather than go to the opponent and keep them away with tiger shots and standing roundhouses or whatever anti air you prefer
its called playing to win there no "being a fag" or "cheap" every "cheap" tactic can just be countered
btw if the ken player was stypid enough to get hit with those tiger shots i dnt see any reason to stop doing them
What xenniex2 said is kind true. Although the Ken player sucked bad in this vid, tiger spamming Sagat is not fun to play with. I don't know whether you played lot of matches in local arcade or not. But if you just spam tiger storm all day in local arcade, you will get chair shot in your head someday. There are many Sagats spamming tiger storm in many tournaments. Believe it or not, other pro players don't like Sagats spamming tiger storm all day.
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LOOOL TIGER STORM.
And pros don't LIKE doing it, but if it nets them a win, every top player will do it, otherwise they're garbage. They like to win, and that heavily outweighs their disdain of being repetitive. List the names of pros who don't ever use Tiger Shot zoning. Please, I'll wait.
I didn't say pros don't LIKE doing it. I said that pros don't like opponent Sagats spamming tigers to their disadvantaged non Sagat characters.
Yes, Sagat pros LIKE doing it to win, but they're not fun to play with as I mentioned before.
In conclusion, Sagat is unbalanced and needs balance patch on him.
List the number of grand masters and masters of Sagat players in Japan and compare the number to number of other grand maters of characters. Please, I'll wait.
im a noob but not retarded lol.ken is cheaper btw.zangief too: /you must be one slow bastard to call me an idiot because of a game character.especially one in a game like this: l
if you can reach him, but those tigers are bad and his ability to alter their height makes them unpredictable, then again spamming tigers always has been a favorite strategy for Sagat
projectile spam in gneral seems to be norm for street fighter these days and it saddens a classic street fighter player like me even thought i've been out of the loop for a LONG time
street fighter 2 turbo, it's where i found street fighter and it's where i trained to be the best, far more balenced game
last street fighter i played (not counting 4) there was no super no hypers no parrying, just normal specials and good ole combos
understandably SF4 proved to be a whole new world for the week i could play it, i currently don't have the ability to play ANY steet fighter and i really want to right now
lol.strategy of spam is my most hated-_-.i jump alot because dashing sucks lol.jumping lets you get to somebody faster and it works good if you use the schoolgirl chick.
on SF4 her Shouryuken makes her lunge foreward so you can skip the last dash and still attack by using it, her chargeav;e hados make her a nice character to use strategy wise
perhaps that's why you like using her, i personnally prefer ken on SF4
my main was Honda back on SF2 but things were WAY different back then, like for started i didn't eve ruse ryu and ken for most of the time i played back then and 2 they made shouryuken nearly impossbile to do on there
your sf4 disc broke?anyways tekken is actually an easier game.but hard to remember all the moves though.sf4 is hard because i know all the supers and still cant combo into them -_-
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Thinking there is some sort of honor system in fighting games is being a fag.
Sagat was made for zoning and keeping the opponent away, since he has slow normals, almost no combos, but long reach, fast projectiles and the ability to punish jumps and focus dashes forward. And besides, look at the date this was posted, retard. It was simply showing that there was a parry-like system in the game, and fireballs are the easiest attacks to focus absorb, so he kept throwing them. Go back to Halo.
To make it CLEAR... This is almost like the parrying of 3rd Strike, only difference is this absorbs a single hit damage. In this video the person failed to back/forward dash while holding the focus(parry), hence he just got hit with the barrage. The focus can be used to absorb one attack, so its not a smart idea trying to 'parry' ryus medium shoryuken. Also after absorbing an attack, your predicted health goes down but regenerates assuming you dont get attacked again.
uhh... thats not a parry. thats a focus attack. i dont care if its your first day playing SF IV, get your facts straight. A focus attack is different from a parry in that it has different qualities, such as not needing the enemy to attack first.
Absorbing a constant fireball barrage with the focus only works if you cancel out of it in time. Remember that kids, these are important life lessons.
Parryin is not gay...they shud bring it back...parryin is part of martial arts..y doesnt a MMA game have dis feature...it takes skill, practice n dedication. When u master it, ull be proud wen u bust sumones ass..he he he
you're totally right man... I've been practicing parrying in 3rd strike... and still can't get it, I can so far parry no more than 8 hits or so in a row... it needs technique, speed, improvisation and thinking... it really kicks ass.... too bad is not in SF IV... it would make the characters more challenging.
i think they should bring back parry, although parry someone elses super is kinda gay but we do what we need to win hahaha but they should bring it back but make so you cant do it on supers
with enuff practice you pretty much parry any super. All it is is practice and dedication with lil natural talent to full parry supers. ive parried my frends chun li and ken super versioned kicks and both times he was relitivley beatn me down lol but he ended up mercin him because i ended up puttin more time into flashy shit rather that playin the game which prolly why they took it out
Again.. Holly fuck yo. I really fucking have pussies that all they wanna do is stay at a corner attacking you with fireballs and they hardly ever want to get a close contact combat.. Have you tried teleporting backwards with AKUMA before the fireball hits you.. That looks awesome..
it's almost like a parry..you eventually regain your health if you're not hit, or take chip damage i believe. it can be used LIKE a parry..i do like the dash cancel attribute the FA has..makes the parry seem like a distant memory..but i do miss her at times ;(
Wow... lot of people on here don't understand SF4 at ALL (especially ronaldmonster who thinks tech throws were taken out). Focus attacks are EXTREMELY useful. You can do devastating combos, get out of difficult situations by focus absorbing and dashing backward and put your opponent in a crumple giving you a free combo. IMO parrying made SF3 too much of a guessing game. I'm so glad they removed that feature for something far better.
not true the focus attack not only gains your ultra while slowly regains your health but can also cause a virtua fighter styled crumple on your opponet leaving them open for combos or hard hitters. parrying isn't better or worse
there both equal just require different uses. I love both of them and cant choose either
Umm that is true. The difference here is ANYONE can use the focus attack where as parry only looked easy but was hard to pull and use properly and when you mastered is made fights epic to see guys parry each other off waiting for the moment to strike. focus looks easy, is easy and anyone can fight anyone as long as they know how to do it.
But, Street Fighter 3 still exists, which is why people still talk about it. You listen to today's greatest hits in music, but don't forget the classic records of all time before them, do you?
I think another application is to confuse people. When people do it to me, I get confused and I'm all like :o. Even though I do it to people all the time, I still get confused when people do it to me. I think it's because you see your opponent getting hit, and that in turn makes you feel kind of safe - however, your opponent's still coming towards you! So yeah.
Also, with fireball spammers, I just absorb each hit, jump the EX ones, then jump towards them and catch em when they're fireballing.
it's great way to build up ultra guage without getting actually hit. and yes you do have to be careful not to get hit while your health is charging back up.
Anyways, Quite frankly the only objection I have with this game is the damage system. Other than that there are only minor issues.
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I love how all the SF3 fans are whining about no parrying. This game isn't "easier" than SF3, just less technical. Which is just the way i like it. Of course my opinion is very biased considering In my mind Old School SF2 was better than Technical SFA and SF3
Parrying was da best solution 2 a cheasy strategy...it took SKILL! How is it possible an MMA fighter cannot parry..come on now. Street Fighter 4 wudve been the perfect Street fighter if parryin was there.
Well parrying along with other tech turned away alot of fans....the hardcore frame data studying tournament players still were game but the majority of people didnt accept it. Capcom is a business and they were smart putting it back to SF2ish mechanics after 3 hurt them really bad sales wise
there is a way of parrying up 2 3 attacks my m8 told me nd he bums off sf lol u gotta focus attack then dash then focus then dash nd keep doin that apparently the dash cancels the focus i aint tried it yet but i'll av a go in a bit lol
Anyways, Quite frankly the only objection I have with this game is the damage system. Other than that there are only minor issues.
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I love how all the SF3 fans are whining about no parrying. This game isn't "easier" than SF3, just less technical. Which is just the way i like it. Of course my opinion is very biased considering In my mind Old School SF2 was better than Technical SFA and SF3
I respect people who can parry everything (though it's annoying when they are supposed to swallow everything~). Few can do that. Also in SF IV the controls are very stiff (there is even a necessary lag to pull of flash kick combos), and the chain Combo system is way inferior to SFZ1 (which is King), and the animation is worse than Zero and III series.
Other than that the "parry" is just balanced up and the whole game is simpler, and still, pretty fun to play regardless.
The parry system in Street Fighter 3 was a beautiful system. It gave players an alternative to just merely blocking and made fights more dynamic.
It is true that you didn't take any damage when you parried an attack (which in that sense made it supperior to blocking). But in order to parry you had to walk into an attack which made it harder and riskier to pull off. Therefore there was a risk/reward attached to it (its not cheap just because elite players like Daigo made it look easy)
"Parrying" In SFVI is twice as hard as it was in SF3. Mainly because you have to focus attack at the precise time THEN cancel out of the focus just to parry. Also, "Parrying" Shades the amount of damage in your life, so if you are hit afterwards you may as well have not "Parried". So in actual fact its harder than in SF3.
Okay, I'll concede to that logic, but you have to admit the is slows down the action and makes it nearly impossible to mix it in with an approach. You need to stop what your doing to parry.
I wouldn't call it harder. All you have to do is press two buttons at the same time and theres a larger gap in timing. parring in 3rd strike required perfect timing.
Are you serious? Holding MP+MK and dashing away is NOT easier than anticipating a 5 hit combo and parrying every single hit. Now matter how much practice you think you've had Parrying is VERY difficult.
I dont see why people dont like the focus attack its the parry with all the cheapness taken out. The way i see it is people are mad they they cant spam it to win a match anymore. When somebody has you dead to rights they have you dead to rights. I know it took skill but is still incredibly cheap that you can just sit there with no life left and block a combo with no damage thats just silly.
@AkumaGen007 Do you even know what you're saying ?
Parrying is TOUGH. You maybe can parry just about everything in the game, but the timing window is 10x smaller than Focus Attack, so if you Parry a combo, you deserved it.
Also, Parry is the Counter cheapness, actually.
Let's pretend you're playing with your friend, all he does is Hadôkening. You're parrying/focusing every move ever UNTIL his Super meter is full and he throws you a Shinkuu Hadôken.
They should not make a game easier just to attract new players. I have been playing sf2 since it was first released on the arcades. Even i was a noob once, so if i can learn to become a skillful player so can anyone else. Noobs will always pick button mashing characters to win especially online and this requires no skill which is what gets on my nerves. Even my 3yr old cousin can win with honda online against some good ryus/kens etc by using cheap tactics.
uhhh you fail at focus attack, if you wanna do consecutive focus attack you have to dash out of each one and keep doing it to make it like a "parry" the way your doing it your just gonna take a shit load of damage
another reason why SF4 SUCKS!!!!! no parrying... wtf??? and lame super finishes... 3rd strike gives u more possibilities and requires more skill to play than this crap
as long as SF4 makes more sales than 3rd strike, the suits at Capcom could give a fuckless lol. That's what the gaming industry has come down too. As a FPS gamer at heart, you don't know how annoying it is to see games evolve from Tribes to Quake to Unreal to Counter strike to.... HALO..... I understand where you're coming from, but as a HC gamer in any genre, you'll always be shunned. Look at what Nintendo is doing with gaming.
i've see this happen on a normal strike as well- not just tech'ing a throw. Everyone says there are no parrys in this game- I've been going crazy trying to figure out what that is. If you watch some videos you will see one guy hit another, and the area that strikes has a little blue glow and the screen will say "technical" on it.
No, you tap the joystick forward for high and jumping attacks, and down for crouching attacks. What it did is made you take no damage a lot of moves, but your timing HAD TO BE PRECISE. It takes a bit of skill to do.
you have to be very cautious when using the focus attacks its like a gamble everytime and if you are careless you will be kissing dirt before you know it. This is no SF3 people parrying as we know it is dead get over it and enjoy the new game
why do ppl act like the parry system from 3rd strike was cheap...for instance when daigo beat justin at evo 04...you cant start parryin as soon as you notice chun li doin the special...you have to parry a frame before the special is even input...now that takes luck(hence the back n forth movement) plus skill...now ofcourse this parry system is no where near as good but we still dont know the full extent yet
well it can be used as a parry in certain situations...sometimes a counter and sometimes an unblockable so it is whatever u use it as....if u wanna use it for combos then its whatever u want it to be...im saying that when used as a parry it is no where near as good as the official parry from 3rd strike
Thats the focus move, focus or EX moves can absorb certain attacks and if you can regen the dmg that you absorbed before you get hit again you keep it. But if you keep absorbing your health goes down so you can do hardcore parrying like 3rd strike
It came out in Japan a few days before America, but the arcade version has been out for quite some time... Check wikipedia for more precise details.
I believe, you keep that life, until you get hit unblocked... But the Focus Attack can take up to 1 hit of damage, if you hit some one twice, they loose their focus and a ton of life.
Ken fireballs versus Sagat fireballs!? Man, you really have to go to Japan to see this level of play.
SFtheWolf 10 months ago
inst that called absorbing? o.O
thepwner7 1 year ago
lol dash out of it like your supposed to
rtahiggins 1 year ago 2
You must dash after your focus...
faojii 1 year ago
@faojii This was when the game first came out :S
You cant really exspect them to know that...
kazhwaqaz 1 year ago
Focus attacks are so much better. Although I believe 3rd strike is the best ever SF game, I found it ridiculous that one could parry an opponents entire Super Art.
dublos86 1 year ago
and that's why it is better, i don't want to sacrefice my deffence after one focus. that's just retarted.
hopefully super will give the third strike characters an option to parry... otherwise, it's going to be hard playing makoto with a focus.
RageOfLeoEX 1 year ago
The 3s characters didn't get parry. But I get what you mean. Unfortunately makoto players will have to adapt their gameplay to SF 4 style. Dudley and ibuki play great though .
dublos86 1 year ago
if this is parrying..... then the fighting game world is DOOMED.
third strike is SO much better.
RageOfLeoEX 1 year ago
yeah man they need to bring parry back, capcom's new streetfighter just became a big downgrade
YLoPlatano 1 year ago
Not Parrying. Focus attacks.
You block one, then get hit even harder.
DeathKIPZ 2 years ago
Sagats are no problem... Guiles and Hondas can suck it though!
Chuckwunoso 2 years ago
question for everyone: what is your fav and why? SF4 or SF3: 3rd Strike?...personally i like 3rd strike cuz spamming projectiles wont fly in 3rd strike
EDJIyamada 2 years ago
@EDJIyamada
he's zoning it just works better in sf4 then 3rd strike and in sf4 the speed most fireball come out is abysmal and it's almost never safe to use unless your on the other side of the screen or in a combo. the fireballs are alot safer to use in sf3 but easy to parry and with high-jumps screws it over. i prefer sf3 personally too. now the original sf2 was a spam fest no doubt. i love it when people span in sf4 as there are so many easy ways to counter. unless there using sagat.
spitfiremanlizerd 2 years ago 2
Nice parries, he only lost half his health bar for no reason.
OscarMaris 2 years ago 31
@OscarMaris lmao best comment ever
antzenpro3 2 years ago
LOL at people talking about ppl/top players "Zoning" not Spamming Tiger shots you fucking babies..grow a pair and man up or go back to button masher Doa4 lol
AnGrYM4N 2 years ago
this vid waste of time
Kforkuzgun 2 years ago
focus attacks arent parries
watch a SFIII 3rd strike vid
those are parries
chimasterjones 2 years ago 2
the other guy would of been sooo cut
DsLeEpY 2 years ago
that guy should learn to dash.
ChangFromUS 2 years ago
YOU LIE!!! THAT IS NOT PARRY!!
Furiouss06 2 years ago
tell me about it lol
YLoPlatano 1 year ago
Well that was crap.
EdofEngland 2 years ago 5
i don't see any parry there, only focus
richatalife 2 years ago 5
Dash cancel?
SmokeyAmp 2 years ago
that sagat player is such a fag, nothing but spamming
xenniex2 2 years ago 2
well what did you expect him to do from fullscreen away?? tiger uppercut??
Lali94 2 years ago 4
how about this ... approach the opponent, attack using combos and special moves
instead of, purposely keeping distance so you can keep spamming.
It's called, not being a fag.
xenniex2 2 years ago
approach the opponent??? not easy since this game favors turtling
sagats super slow so its better to get the opponent to sagat rather than go to the opponent and keep them away with tiger shots and standing roundhouses or whatever anti air you prefer
its called playing to win there no "being a fag" or "cheap" every "cheap" tactic can just be countered
btw if the ken player was stypid enough to get hit with those tiger shots i dnt see any reason to stop doing them
Lali94 2 years ago
What xenniex2 said is kind true. Although the Ken player sucked bad in this vid, tiger spamming Sagat is not fun to play with. I don't know whether you played lot of matches in local arcade or not. But if you just spam tiger storm all day in local arcade, you will get chair shot in your head someday. There are many Sagats spamming tiger storm in many tournaments. Believe it or not, other pro players don't like Sagats spamming tiger storm all day.
hopang12 2 years ago 7
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LOOOL TIGER STORM.
And pros don't LIKE doing it, but if it nets them a win, every top player will do it, otherwise they're garbage. They like to win, and that heavily outweighs their disdain of being repetitive. List the names of pros who don't ever use Tiger Shot zoning. Please, I'll wait.
katsuranomaly 2 years ago
I didn't say pros don't LIKE doing it. I said that pros don't like opponent Sagats spamming tigers to their disadvantaged non Sagat characters.
Yes, Sagat pros LIKE doing it to win, but they're not fun to play with as I mentioned before.
In conclusion, Sagat is unbalanced and needs balance patch on him.
List the number of grand masters and masters of Sagat players in Japan and compare the number to number of other grand maters of characters. Please, I'll wait.
hopang12 2 years ago 6
lol he doesnt need a patch.he's slow as shit.wtf you can counter everything he has.
Kashground 2 years ago
Thx for proving that you're a total noob retard.
hopang12 2 years ago
im a noob but not retarded lol.ken is cheaper btw.zangief too: /you must be one slow bastard to call me an idiot because of a game character.especially one in a game like this: l
Kashground 2 years ago
typycal sagat player, use a player that is not sagat and youll see that you will start losing faster.
sagat is overpowered damn face it fag.
best damage
best health
best ultra (can combo from anything).
thats it, and yes thats all this game is about.
24oscar24 2 years ago
not really a sagat player.i use everybody: /unless that comment was for somebody else
Kashground 2 years ago
Nice try on insulting with poor wording. Pathetic.
hopang12 2 years ago
o well: li try to use guile and balrog more so maybe i dont know much bout the dude.
Kashground 2 years ago
if you can reach him, but those tigers are bad and his ability to alter their height makes them unpredictable, then again spamming tigers always has been a favorite strategy for Sagat
projectile spam in gneral seems to be norm for street fighter these days and it saddens a classic street fighter player like me even thought i've been out of the loop for a LONG time
street fighter 2 turbo, it's where i found street fighter and it's where i trained to be the best, far more balenced game
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
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Kashground 1 year ago
blanka and honda are too hard for me to beat -_- cammy combos are hard to do and the damage scaler makes it alittle pointless
Kashground 1 year ago
like i said
last street fighter i played (not counting 4) there was no super no hypers no parrying, just normal specials and good ole combos
understandably SF4 proved to be a whole new world for the week i could play it, i currently don't have the ability to play ANY steet fighter and i really want to right now
and that makes me a sad panda i guess....
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
im not good at sf4 much.i havent played sf in a long time either lol.almost everybody here probably havent.anyways nvm it doesnt matta : /
Kashground 1 year ago
my first online match on any SF match, really my first match again an actual layer
biznitch truied to pick Ryu and Hado spam me
2 perfects in a row, he got the fagat named sagat
1st round i barely won
2nd round i perfected him again
this was before i knew how to do ultra or supers and was still getting a grasp over the EX and focus attack concepts
if i ever get another copy and get caught up on what's new i think i'll be a deadly force indeed
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
you know this game is screwed up when someone gets suprised that you didnt use a single fireball for a whole match.......
Kashground 1 year ago
lol
my most hated stradegy on SF4 is one some hits you like once and then starts jumping back and forh over your head all day to run down time
annoying as hell
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
lol.strategy of spam is my most hated-_-.i jump alot because dashing sucks lol.jumping lets you get to somebody faster and it works good if you use the schoolgirl chick.
Kashground 1 year ago
lol
Sakura huh?
on SF4 her Shouryuken makes her lunge foreward so you can skip the last dash and still attack by using it, her chargeav;e hados make her a nice character to use strategy wise
perhaps that's why you like using her, i personnally prefer ken on SF4
my main was Honda back on SF2 but things were WAY different back then, like for started i didn't eve ruse ryu and ken for most of the time i played back then and 2 they made shouryuken nearly impossbile to do on there
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
i like using alot of people lol.damn i hate fighting the same peeps alot.shoryuken wasnt impossible.its the same as it was on sf2 lol
Kashground 1 year ago
yeah i prefer varying alot but anyway
i dunno though maybe it's just i never could figure it out because of the bad direction in the book
i mean heck my dad used to spin the D-oad (for lack of a better term) for a Hado
strangely it worked everytime but gave him the random red fireballs, i only recently found out that doesn't have to be random
too late, i need a working Steet fighter
i wonder if anyone else had a hidden move then?
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
your sf4 disc broke?anyways tekken is actually an easier game.but hard to remember all the moves though.sf4 is hard because i know all the supers and still cant combo into them -_-
Kashground 1 year ago
i like street fighter better
i played Tekken and it was allright but i prefer street fighter
darkangelcoty 1 year ago
i like tekken better lol.sf4 for me is alittle hard
Kashground 1 year ago
@Kashground That about sums it up. They're both great though, and if you practice each of them enough you'll rape all newcomers without mercy.
cloudstrife1256 1 year ago
No, it's called.. you're a faggot. go kill yourself, kid.
emoislikecool 2 years ago 17
@emoislikecool way to tell someone to go kill themself due to a video game dumbass
LAHrebirth 1 month ago
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Thinking there is some sort of honor system in fighting games is being a fag.
Sagat was made for zoning and keeping the opponent away, since he has slow normals, almost no combos, but long reach, fast projectiles and the ability to punish jumps and focus dashes forward. And besides, look at the date this was posted, retard. It was simply showing that there was a parry-like system in the game, and fireballs are the easiest attacks to focus absorb, so he kept throwing them. Go back to Halo.
katsuranomaly 2 years ago
Pwned!
opinionLad 2 years ago
u cant call urself a player if u cant dodge spam attacks so ken is the 1 who sucks...
trucomment 2 years ago
Its called learning how to play. which you obviously didnt do yet.
nickhoksbergen 2 years ago
That was badly done. He shoulda cancelled the focus attack straight afterwards and avoided the next projectile or possibly "parry" that one too.
Simonio8 2 years ago
To make it CLEAR... This is almost like the parrying of 3rd Strike, only difference is this absorbs a single hit damage. In this video the person failed to back/forward dash while holding the focus(parry), hence he just got hit with the barrage. The focus can be used to absorb one attack, so its not a smart idea trying to 'parry' ryus medium shoryuken. Also after absorbing an attack, your predicted health goes down but regenerates assuming you dont get attacked again.
abeladi 2 years ago 2
uhh... thats not a parry. thats a focus attack. i dont care if its your first day playing SF IV, get your facts straight. A focus attack is different from a parry in that it has different qualities, such as not needing the enemy to attack first.
Sinja00001 2 years ago
huh wheres the parry 0_o
Nipunfernando 2 years ago
Absorbing a constant fireball barrage with the focus only works if you cancel out of it in time. Remember that kids, these are important life lessons.
depthcharge123 2 years ago
parry my ass.. more like... take on damage
oceanbluboi 2 years ago 2
Parryin is not gay...they shud bring it back...parryin is part of martial arts..y doesnt a MMA game have dis feature...it takes skill, practice n dedication. When u master it, ull be proud wen u bust sumones ass..he he he
KnightwinG07 2 years ago
you're totally right man... I've been practicing parrying in 3rd strike... and still can't get it, I can so far parry no more than 8 hits or so in a row... it needs technique, speed, improvisation and thinking... it really kicks ass.... too bad is not in SF IV... it would make the characters more challenging.
mztguitar 2 years ago
what an idiot
snuffsan 2 years ago
i think they should bring back parry, although parry someone elses super is kinda gay but we do what we need to win hahaha but they should bring it back but make so you cant do it on supers
TheVeteran919 2 years ago
It isn't easy to do it on supers, so i don't see why you shouldn't be able to do that
RaZor921 2 years ago
with enuff practice you pretty much parry any super. All it is is practice and dedication with lil natural talent to full parry supers. ive parried my frends chun li and ken super versioned kicks and both times he was relitivley beatn me down lol but he ended up mercin him because i ended up puttin more time into flashy shit rather that playin the game which prolly why they took it out
TheVeteran919 2 years ago
You people do realize when this video was posted...and that no one knew how to play the game like we do now...
zeroxsyn 2 years ago 4
This guy fails at FADC.
leonardobb 2 years ago
lol that Ken just doesn't understand after you absorb the blow you double tap back/forward...
Spikemsxxxgoowo 2 years ago 5
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Thanatos69 2 years ago
its an old video
KnightwinG07 2 years ago
that was crap!!!
Bronty321 2 years ago 5
Im betta....
Ojay937 2 years ago
Again.. Holly fuck yo. I really fucking have pussies that all they wanna do is stay at a corner attacking you with fireballs and they hardly ever want to get a close contact combat.. Have you tried teleporting backwards with AKUMA before the fireball hits you.. That looks awesome..
djlocaso 2 years ago 5
Horrible
MacOut 2 years ago 2
i thought you can't actually parry in SF4
WaterJay 2 years ago
it's almost like a parry..you eventually regain your health if you're not hit, or take chip damage i believe. it can be used LIKE a parry..i do like the dash cancel attribute the FA has..makes the parry seem like a distant memory..but i do miss her at times ;(
raahmoan 2 years ago
I'm sure Hazuki-San was there when this came out in Arcades.
rumbazz 2 years ago
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thats not parrying as everyone saw....sf4 is shiet ill never play it..3rd strike for life
SilvrSeven 2 years ago
Wow... lot of people on here don't understand SF4 at ALL (especially ronaldmonster who thinks tech throws were taken out). Focus attacks are EXTREMELY useful. You can do devastating combos, get out of difficult situations by focus absorbing and dashing backward and put your opponent in a crumple giving you a free combo. IMO parrying made SF3 too much of a guessing game. I'm so glad they removed that feature for something far better.
xtstonex 2 years ago
yeah they replaced it for a double edged sword.....
third strike wins in "not fuckin you over department. focus? LOL!
RageOfLeoEX 1 year ago
Focus does suk a lot compared to focus.
If your too close and you dash out of a focus
your open, so not only do you take all the
damage you focused you gave your opponent
a free attack for being a turtle.
NoName7467 2 years ago
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focus attack sux!!!!!
matador26reep 2 years ago
Not if you know how to use it
this guy doesn't know that youre supposed to dash cancel out of it
StreetTrooper 2 years ago
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No it does suck. They took put parry and tech throws and replaced it with flashy bullshit that serves no purpose other than to make you look cool.
ronaldmonster 2 years ago
not true the focus attack not only gains your ultra while slowly regains your health but can also cause a virtua fighter styled crumple on your opponet leaving them open for combos or hard hitters. parrying isn't better or worse
there both equal just require different uses. I love both of them and cant choose either
StreetTrooper 2 years ago
Umm that is true. The difference here is ANYONE can use the focus attack where as parry only looked easy but was hard to pull and use properly and when you mastered is made fights epic to see guys parry each other off waiting for the moment to strike. focus looks easy, is easy and anyone can fight anyone as long as they know how to do it.
ronaldmonster 2 years ago
True and not true
Yes it takes barely any skill to focus attack someone
But it takes major skill to use that focus attack to create focus combos
I think focus combos are pretty damn epic
I made a combo video if you don't understand what I mean it's in my profile
StreetTrooper 2 years ago
try ex focus combos thats for pros
mikolyyyy 2 years ago
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move on bitch it street fighter 4 2009 mofo, this isn't street fighter 3. move on with time don't be a lag bitch....
1o2o3e 2 years ago
But, Street Fighter 3 still exists, which is why people still talk about it. You listen to today's greatest hits in music, but don't forget the classic records of all time before them, do you?
TheGuyNamedHenryG 2 years ago 5
3rd strike better
makoto rulez!!!!
Fitaxo 2 years ago
ehhh 3rd strike is better
Halo2isgay87 2 years ago 2
agreed
bluekazuma 2 years ago 2
its not a parry its a part of the focus attack
kingshep 2 years ago
I don't even know why people try to parry in this game, other than getting closer to your opponent, you take some major damage.
nastynas9000 2 years ago
In case you didn't know, you're not supposed to spam it . THis video is just for demonstration's sake.
You take full damage from the attack you absorb using focus, the difference being IF you don't get hit for 2s, this damage will heal back.
ocping 2 years ago
I think another application is to confuse people. When people do it to me, I get confused and I'm all like :o. Even though I do it to people all the time, I still get confused when people do it to me. I think it's because you see your opponent getting hit, and that in turn makes you feel kind of safe - however, your opponent's still coming towards you! So yeah.
Also, with fireball spammers, I just absorb each hit, jump the EX ones, then jump towards them and catch em when they're fireballing.
shiryu22 2 years ago
it's great way to build up ultra guage without getting actually hit. and yes you do have to be careful not to get hit while your health is charging back up.
kharion 2 years ago
how do you perform multi-parries?
ReXxMaN 2 years ago
Best Comment so far.....from XiaoYeet:
Anyways, Quite frankly the only objection I have with this game is the damage system. Other than that there are only minor issues.
(Post Script)
I love how all the SF3 fans are whining about no parrying. This game isn't "easier" than SF3, just less technical. Which is just the way i like it. Of course my opinion is very biased considering In my mind Old School SF2 was better than Technical SFA and SF3
WisdoMan777 2 years ago
well i love the alpha series and thridstrike
but they took so much away and i cant help but not enjoy it :{
bluekazuma 2 years ago
You can still parry with Gouken (though its different), and Kara throw with certain characters
jdigitalseven 2 years ago
Parrying was da best solution 2 a cheasy strategy...it took SKILL! How is it possible an MMA fighter cannot parry..come on now. Street Fighter 4 wudve been the perfect Street fighter if parryin was there.
KnightwinG07 2 years ago 2
Well parrying along with other tech turned away alot of fans....the hardcore frame data studying tournament players still were game but the majority of people didnt accept it. Capcom is a business and they were smart putting it back to SF2ish mechanics after 3 hurt them really bad sales wise
jdigitalseven 2 years ago
there is a way of parrying up 2 3 attacks my m8 told me nd he bums off sf lol u gotta focus attack then dash then focus then dash nd keep doin that apparently the dash cancels the focus i aint tried it yet but i'll av a go in a bit lol
jaytul 2 years ago
THERE IS NO PARRY MECHANIC IN SF4
cap ftw because noob never learn.
Naleb514 2 years ago 5
Anyways, Quite frankly the only objection I have with this game is the damage system. Other than that there are only minor issues.
(Post Script)
I love how all the SF3 fans are whining about no parrying. This game isn't "easier" than SF3, just less technical. Which is just the way i like it. Of course my opinion is very biased considering In my mind Old School SF2 was better than Technical SFA and SF3
XiaoYeet 2 years ago 2
I respect people who can parry everything (though it's annoying when they are supposed to swallow everything~). Few can do that. Also in SF IV the controls are very stiff (there is even a necessary lag to pull of flash kick combos), and the chain Combo system is way inferior to SFZ1 (which is King), and the animation is worse than Zero and III series.
Other than that the "parry" is just balanced up and the whole game is simpler, and still, pretty fun to play regardless.
SeventhSun 2 years ago
Orrr... come on! Street fighter 2 was full of flaws and bugs. Street fighter 2 and Street fighter alpha 3 had the highest amount.
nastynas9000 2 years ago
The parry system in Street Fighter 3 was a beautiful system. It gave players an alternative to just merely blocking and made fights more dynamic.
It is true that you didn't take any damage when you parried an attack (which in that sense made it supperior to blocking). But in order to parry you had to walk into an attack which made it harder and riskier to pull off. Therefore there was a risk/reward attached to it (its not cheap just because elite players like Daigo made it look easy)
dimi887 2 years ago 4
to parry you have to tap forward right when ur about to get hit and tap down for low hits... do it too early and u get hit.
most multiple hits moves you have to tap forward one by one and at the right time
hotkenguy 2 years ago
@dimi887 In fact, the Parry system was so revolutionnary at the time, it was used by Namco many times (Tekken, Soul Calibur, etc.)
kefkasakura 1 year ago
They made parrying way to easy and took out the risk factor of moving into hits.
patmathis 2 years ago
Hmm have you played the game? It really isn't much like the parrying system in SF3. Not nearly as good.
dogman542 2 years ago
Yes, that is why I said "They made parrying way to easy and took out the risk factor of moving into hits."
patmathis 2 years ago
"Parrying" In SFVI is twice as hard as it was in SF3. Mainly because you have to focus attack at the precise time THEN cancel out of the focus just to parry. Also, "Parrying" Shades the amount of damage in your life, so if you are hit afterwards you may as well have not "Parried". So in actual fact its harder than in SF3.
XiaoYeet 2 years ago
Okay, I'll concede to that logic, but you have to admit the is slows down the action and makes it nearly impossible to mix it in with an approach. You need to stop what your doing to parry.
patmathis 2 years ago
you have street fighter 6 already? where can i buy it?
zeekin 2 years ago
I wouldn't call it harder. All you have to do is press two buttons at the same time and theres a larger gap in timing. parring in 3rd strike required perfect timing.
nbdy 2 years ago
Are you serious? Holding MP+MK and dashing away is NOT easier than anticipating a 5 hit combo and parrying every single hit. Now matter how much practice you think you've had Parrying is VERY difficult.
Afekz 2 years ago
you sir are an idiot, did you see his health bar at all????
it went down
pikachu1070 2 years ago
Ryu is an A tier character. You can say the same thing when someone picks Sagat who is by far chillin' alone in God tier.
kevsarus 2 years ago
I dont see why people dont like the focus attack its the parry with all the cheapness taken out. The way i see it is people are mad they they cant spam it to win a match anymore. When somebody has you dead to rights they have you dead to rights. I know it took skill but is still incredibly cheap that you can just sit there with no life left and block a combo with no damage thats just silly.
AkumaGen007 2 years ago
@AkumaGen007 Do you even know what you're saying ?
Parrying is TOUGH. You maybe can parry just about everything in the game, but the timing window is 10x smaller than Focus Attack, so if you Parry a combo, you deserved it.
Also, Parry is the Counter cheapness, actually.
Let's pretend you're playing with your friend, all he does is Hadôkening. You're parrying/focusing every move ever UNTIL his Super meter is full and he throws you a Shinkuu Hadôken.
kefkasakura 1 year ago
@kefkasakura In SF4 : You can escape this, you just can Focus the first hit of the shit and let you get hit by the 4 other ones.
But in SF3, if you're skilled enough, you can parry ALL of the hits. All 5 of them. So here, this isn't over until it's over.
kefkasakura 1 year ago
They should not make a game easier just to attract new players. I have been playing sf2 since it was first released on the arcades. Even i was a noob once, so if i can learn to become a skillful player so can anyone else. Noobs will always pick button mashing characters to win especially online and this requires no skill which is what gets on my nerves. Even my 3yr old cousin can win with honda online against some good ryus/kens etc by using cheap tactics.
IT SUCKS!!!!
badash786 2 years ago
Yeah it is annoying. What's even more is when they actually think they're skilled when all they pick is ryu/ken.
TheManNamedDragon 2 years ago
whats wrong with ryu and ken?
nbdy 2 years ago
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badash786 2 years ago
That isn't a parry.
JazzSheep 2 years ago
Parrying was not newbie-friendly. Focus Attack is, and it has its own tactical uses as well. Unblockables are mad good, after all.
mistervader 2 years ago
I noticed street fighter 4 attracted alot of noobs have you.
I see people all the time talking about how hard the ultra combo is to pull off.
Its funny as hell.LOL
Wildawg100 2 years ago
That may not be what hardcore gamers what, but that's definitely what Capcom wants. I'm sure you get what I mean.
mistervader 2 years ago
Yeah thats exactly what capcom wants.
They wanted to attract all the old street fighter veterens.
And attract abunch of noobs as well.
Wildawg100 2 years ago
uhhh you fail at focus attack, if you wanna do consecutive focus attack you have to dash out of each one and keep doing it to make it like a "parry" the way your doing it your just gonna take a shit load of damage
steveeeeboi 2 years ago 5
haha good one
DiscPriestHeals 2 years ago
another reason why SF4 SUCKS!!!!! no parrying... wtf??? and lame super finishes... 3rd strike gives u more possibilities and requires more skill to play than this crap
badash786 2 years ago
as long as SF4 makes more sales than 3rd strike, the suits at Capcom could give a fuckless lol. That's what the gaming industry has come down too. As a FPS gamer at heart, you don't know how annoying it is to see games evolve from Tribes to Quake to Unreal to Counter strike to.... HALO..... I understand where you're coming from, but as a HC gamer in any genre, you'll always be shunned. Look at what Nintendo is doing with gaming.
magicalpoop 2 years ago 3
"Tribes to Quake to Unreal to Counter strike to.... HALO....."
SHAZBOT!
I feel your pain.
patmathis 2 years ago
im really hoping that they make the next street fighter like 3rd strike. hopefully the community speaks up , so capcom can do it.
IVFADE2BLACKVI 2 years ago 2
u retards its called a focus atack
it blocks 1 hit unless the hits a armer breaking move.......god
th3rb 2 years ago
you should have ex focused then blocked then repeated.
ThaRiddler 2 years ago
ive seen actually parrying in this game and it even says technical when u do it. i dont kno how it happened though
Pheenak 2 years ago
that is when two people do a grab almost at the same time. Not a parry.
MizukiTHPS 2 years ago
i've see this happen on a normal strike as well- not just tech'ing a throw. Everyone says there are no parrys in this game- I've been going crazy trying to figure out what that is. If you watch some videos you will see one guy hit another, and the area that strikes has a little blue glow and the screen will say "technical" on it.
ryoaska1 2 years ago
thats when two people go for a grab at the same time
vertoxz123 2 years ago
yeah, you guys were right, I guess I just wasn't paying close enough attention. I didn't realize the throw looks like a strike when it gets tech'd.
ryoaska1 2 years ago
There are certain characters like gouken (maybe only him) where he has a move that looks like a normal parry.
MizukiTHPS 2 years ago
you had to either move the joystick forward or downward.
Zealouz1 2 years ago
that seems so useless compared to the parrying system in third strike :[
Lucastic 2 years ago 3
How'd the third strike parry system work? Were you able to block all attacks by holding back or something?
MabusPwns 2 years ago
No, you tap the joystick forward for high and jumping attacks, and down for crouching attacks. What it did is made you take no damage a lot of moves, but your timing HAD TO BE PRECISE. It takes a bit of skill to do.
egg64 2 years ago
you have to be very cautious when using the focus attacks its like a gamble everytime and if you are careless you will be kissing dirt before you know it. This is no SF3 people parrying as we know it is dead get over it and enjoy the new game
D3ENT 2 years ago
I miss parrying ...
hihipuffyyamiyumisho 2 years ago 5
why do ppl act like the parry system from 3rd strike was cheap...for instance when daigo beat justin at evo 04...you cant start parryin as soon as you notice chun li doin the special...you have to parry a frame before the special is even input...now that takes luck(hence the back n forth movement) plus skill...now ofcourse this parry system is no where near as good but we still dont know the full extent yet
RyuzakiKaiten 2 years ago 5
it's not a parry system........god, why does everyone think it is?
wtfabulous 2 years ago
well it can be used as a parry in certain situations...sometimes a counter and sometimes an unblockable so it is whatever u use it as....if u wanna use it for combos then its whatever u want it to be...im saying that when used as a parry it is no where near as good as the official parry from 3rd strike
RyuzakiKaiten 2 years ago 3
Thats the focus move, focus or EX moves can absorb certain attacks and if you can regen the dmg that you absorbed before you get hit again you keep it. But if you keep absorbing your health goes down so you can do hardcore parrying like 3rd strike
ataris525 2 years ago
Can you parry like the same way we do in Street Fighter 3rd Strike!? Let me know
GalaxYSmokaH4Trilli0 2 years ago
Reminds me of O. Sagat, fireball spamming the fuck out of you.
Airmaster167 2 years ago
parry may be not in it now, but who knows the capcom might release Street Fighter 4 Second Impact with parry included ROFL
fatman01923 2 years ago
SO its not really a parry is it?
Also one more thing, how long ago did this game come out in Japan?
XShadowPrince 2 years ago
No, not a parry; it's a "Save" your hp changes color, and if you take any unblocked damage you'll lose all that life, plus what you got hit.
I think it came out on the 17th in japan. (console)
DRCsyntax 2 years ago
It came out in Japan a few days before America, but the arcade version has been out for quite some time... Check wikipedia for more precise details.
I believe, you keep that life, until you get hit unblocked... But the Focus Attack can take up to 1 hit of damage, if you hit some one twice, they loose their focus and a ton of life.
Ninja808Mike 2 years ago
not a real parry because ur life goes down and recharges but if ur hit it takes the full dmg. Parry u never lose that dmg in the first place.
as to the bar it wont use a bar if u dash cancel out of it.
anbujustin 2 years ago
no parrying in sf4. it autoattacks. but dash cancel the autoattack. still not real parry.
rJeee 2 years ago
ok so
im super confused
when i played sf4 my friend told me about the parry where theres a counter attack which stuns the opponent
but i see in various videos that they parry without the counter attack after, sooo im wondering if theres 2 types of parrys...
bboynubi 2 years ago
you can manually dash out of the couter when you flash to cancel it.
PolaroidLogic 2 years ago