Student Sues After Punishment for His Religious Beliefs on Homosexuality

[lawilson200]

Boy Dick, you didn't even bother to read the actual article.

First I noticed the lawsuit was filed by the Thomas More Center, the same law firm that represented the Dover School Board in Kitzmiller. Not a very promising start. Second the civil rights complaint is aimed at a school's policy on bullying. Standing is tenious as is the claim of harm.

This case is not much different then a recently decided case from Georgia. Essentially, believe what you will, it does not give the r to bully.

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

Gotta love how the pro-gay camp regurgitate the same garbage found on all gay websites to justify putting their penis in an diseased infested anus which is used to expel waste products. The pathetic arguments against God, references to God's morality in the OT, homosexuality in nature, the invisible gay gene, blah blah blah. This same garbage is also on Facebook. Talk to one pro-gay is like talking to all of them. Nothing different - just the same crap on a stick!

[IloveYOUviruses]

the Bible predicts more and more violence against Christians, that means, the only way for the world to stop us is silencing us, and I think that's good, that's an expression of true commitment to Jesus like those Christians in the first century.

With this true conviction, massive communication media and transport, the Gospel will be everywhere bugging and saving the world, with the coming of the LORD ad portas.

[GawdSwill]

The Bible contains six admonishments for Homosexuals and 362 admonishments for Heterosexuals.. This doesn't mean God loves Homosexuals more than us he just knows we need more supervision..

[EKrassner90]

homosexuality is abnormal and perverse

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." —Leviticus 18:22

[NEGATIONofP]

@EKrassner90 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. -- Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Is this how you found your wife.

[NEGATIONofP]

@EKrassner90 Rape on the other hand is OK & ordained by god.

[Texasvet1]

@NEGATIONofP

I'm curious, do you see the mainstream Bible believing church condoning rape and incest? Do you really believe they do not read the Bible?

I have attended church for several years, seeked God's will in my life, and read the Bible extensively, but have never been commanded to commit incest or rape.

On the other hand, I have been commanded to love the LORD God with all my heart, soul and mind; and love my neighbor as myself.

[WONDAWOMAN]

@Texasvet1 By "Mainstream church" YOU WOULD MEAN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC church would you not? That is the MOST mainstream church on the planet....the church from which all other churches originate... if so, then I would say YES, YES, AND YES!! they absolutely condone and PRACTICE RAPE and have done so for more than a thousand years.. IN FACT, the sitting pontif who served in HITLER'S WHITE SUPREMACIST YOUTH GROUP, recently stated that the (homosexual) rape of children when he was young was NORMAL.

[Texasvet1]

@WONDAWOMAN

No I was not implying the Roman Catholic church; but rape and incest is not an established teaching or doctrine even in the Catholic church, though they do have a terrible history. The Bible does address your point though and tells us "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

Do you have an example of homosexual rape being condoned by a mainstream "Bible believing" church?

[NEGATIONofP]

@WONDAWOMAN Great point!! if you don't mind may I save this quote and use it in the future?

[NEGATIONofP]

@Texasvet1 I am just pointing out the things your god demands of his followers. It must be important if he thought it relevant enough to include it in the ONLY writings he gave you.

[BT3701]

were living in a time when criticism of homosexuality is not tolerated but criticism of Christianity is to be tolerated. Someone once said; "toleration is good for all, or it is good for none." Someone else once said: "if you are intolerant of those who are intolerant, then you yourself are not tolerant." Any intolerance towards this reply will serve to prove that you're intolerant.

[NEGATIONofP]

@BT3701 You could have been saying the same thing during the time the U.S. supported slavery. Intolerance is JUSTIFIED if the people you are being intolerant of are HARMING people or society. "Indifference to evil is more insidious than evil itself." Abraham Joshua Hassel

[BT3701]

@NEGATIONofP Should I be tolerant of individuals who are murdering babies for profit?

[NEGATIONofP]

@BT3701 "Happy shall be they who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!" Psalm 137 According to your book it looks like you should.

[BT3701]

@NEGATIONofP When ripped out of it's contextual and historical setting you can incorrectly support many things, the method of interpretation you used requires use of surgical eisegesis, and is not the correct method to do interpretation, because it only demonstrates a ones ignorance.

[NEGATIONofP]

@BT3701 REALY!?!? Please show how this order from your god could be justifiable in ANY time &/or context?

[BT3701]

@NEGATIONofP In context, it's a prophecy concerning Babylon whom Israel was being held captive under. The prophecy concerns Babylon's future destruction which is later fulfilled when the Mede's & Persian's come and conquer Babylon. In Psalm 137:9 Jehovah is not condoning this action, but Psalm 137:9 is just stating what will soon happen during the time of Babylon's conquering. Context is all important.

[NEGATIONofP]

@BT3701 No. he not only allows it to happen but REWARDS those who took part. Also We can see god himself killing children MANY time throughout the bible. First born of Egypt (Exodus 11:5) Canaanite children (Judges 1:1)Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25) Feel free to show how ALL this is somehow not a result of your god supporting the MURDER of children.

[jonathanadamski]

Stand up for truth, the Bible, God and you will be rewarded in heaven. I'll be praying for you.

[NEGATIONofP]

@jonathanadamski Said the terrorist leader as he sent the suicide bomber to blow up a group of sinners for not believing in the Quran I mean Bible.

[Standonarock]

Gays dont have to be tollerant of others. Were homophobes, your Christianaphobes and religiousphobes.

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

"How many people... have been convicted of hate crimes against Christians?"?

Thats the problem. When people are nasty to Christians they just let them go. If people even give the impression that they are against Homosexuality they are persecuted. Nothing but bias against Christians.

""gay communities" violent crime rate? It is FAR LESS than ANY other demographic of society."?

So are you saying that we should encourage children to be gay so they won't be violent? Nonsense.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 It NOT a choice!!!! If YOU could "choose" to have sex with a person of the same sex YOU are gay. So are you saying you are gay? If so thats GREAT I am sure they could use the help.

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

"It NOT a choice!!!!"?

Having the urges is not a choice. Letting go and embracing those desires is, however. So if you embrace those urges, you are wrong. Similarly, its not wrong to be obese. But if you choose not to loose weight for a healthier lifestyle and rather continue in your unhealthy lifestyle, thats wrong.

BTW, you are more likely to be gay since you are so vigorously defending them.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 So what your are saying is your god creates people with the desire to love of the same sex then tortures them for acting in the way he knew they would when he created them? How can you see this as loving in any way? Also, being labeled "gay" is no insult to me, so call me that if you wish. You using that term in a derogatory manner speaks VOLUMES about your bigoted hate filled intellect!

[GawdSwill]

@NEGATIONofP Bingo NEGATION.. how telling that he begins with "Having the urges.." Heterosexuals don't have homosexual "urges".. self loathing Closet Cases do.

If that Sweet, Forbidden Ruby Starfruit wasn't banned in Scripture gneisenau would be making a beeline to the closest Turkish Bath.

[gneisenau321]

@GawdSwill

"Heterosexuals don't have homosexual "urges".. self loathing Closet Cases do."?

Everyone has experienced sexually immoral urges before. Whether you embrace it or not determines whether you are right or wrong.

BTW, looks like you anti-theists only know how to make ad hominem attacks with zero good arguments at all.

[GawdSwill]

@NEGATIONofP Did you confuse me with gneisinau or just misunderstand my comment? I was in fact concurring with you %100.. as in "Bingo"..

[NEGATIONofP]

@GawdSwill Yep I sure did . Thanks for the heads up & sorry for the error on my part.

[NEGATIONofP]

@Standonarock Have you look @ the "gay communities" violent crime rate? It is FAR LESS than ANY other demographic of society. Statically speaking you should choose to have a "gay"family move in next door to your family & children over ANY religious family. Homosexuals are far more likely than any other minority group in the United States to be victimized by violent hate crime. How many people do you know of that have been convicted of hate crimes against Christians?

[NEGATIONofP]

@Standonarock Also if caring how REAL people are being effected by people who believe & follow the directions given in a 2000+ year old fairy-tail makes me a "Christianaphobe and religiousphobe" then mark me down as one. I ask you what does you LACK of empathy make you?

[NEGATIONofP]

Not only are you an uneducated liar but a homophobic BIGOT as well. What will you support in you next posting mass genocide, rape, slavery. Great example of christian values!!

[warneveryonedotcom]

@NEGATIONofP Thank you. What you listed is coming very soon, not through Bible believing Christians, but by way of the anti-christ who will lead the world into the Great Tribulation. We tell ALL about the living free gift of God by faith in Jesus Christ alone and are hated as Jesus said would happen. Soon Christians will be removed from this earth to meet our Lord in the air and then those that are left will say, "peace and safety", then sudden destruction as the Bible says.

[NEGATIONofP]

@warneveryonedotcom So you support the BIGOTS. Do you support the people in Africa that are KILLING CHILDREN for witchcraft as well? Theists are such "good" people?!?!

[349mikval]

@warneveryonedotcom How can they not see its just unnatural they can not have off spring and they can not keep their species going. If everyone decided to become gay the whole human race would die off, And these are the same people that believe in evolution? if you do believe in evolution then you are going against it as well. Something is not right. I do not hate anyone but i do pray they will wake up soon because the Lord Jesus is on his way, God bless.

[NEGATIONofP]

@349mikval

1) It is NOT "unnatural" homosexual behavior is demonstrated throughout nature over many different species.

2) It is NOT a choice if you think so could YOU "choose" to be "gay" if so you ARE gay.

3) this type of speech is HATE & you & you religion will be viewed as a BIGOTED for supporting it.

[349mikval]

@NEGATIONofP it is not HATE speech it is a observation of the world around me. And i have every right to believe in God as much as you do in gay interaction. I have no problem with the person only the action. If a scientist was to say after careful observation i have concluded that the species can not survive if it continues on the coarse it is presently on. would you say to him thats hate speech? well thats all i was saying. It is a outside observation. God bless.

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

@NEGATIONofP "It is NOT "unnatural" homosexual behavior is demonstrated throughout nature over many different species." Don't stop there. What about the other not-so-nice behaviors in these species? Do they eat their young, fling feces, kill off the pack leader for dominance? Why not brag about these behaviors as well since you want to compare yourself to animals. Gays look pathetic going down into the animal kingdom to justify their behavior.

[NEGATIONofP]

@YhwhKhaiMostHigh You called it "unnatural" all I am doing is showing how you lied to support your bigotry.

[xCrucifyTheFleshx]

@YhwhKhaiMostHigh Animals, if randy enough, will have sex with anything around. Take for instance the classic dog humping a persons leg. There are no strictly gay animals like some people try to claim.

[preparadox]

@xCrucifyTheFleshx so you have seen a dog having sex with a goat/pig/sheep/rabbit? lol...that is so ridiculous. humping is a stress/dominance behavior, not a sexual one LOL..how funny

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

@NEGATIONofP "It is NOT a choice if you think so could YOU "choose" to be "gay" if so you ARE gay."

Sorry, being gay is a choice. Next...

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

@NEGATIONofP " this type of speech is HATE & you & you religion will be viewed as a BIGOTED for supporting it."

If you think being against homosexual behavior is "BIGOTED" so be it. Who freakin' cares. I will be against this filthy lifestyle until my dying day and you and the rest of those who dabble in feces can chew on that a while.

[NEGATIONofP]

@YhwhKhaiMostHigh <<<<<<<SELF CONFESSED BIGOT!!!!!!!!

[NEGATIONofP]

@349mikval You can try to justify &/or twist this anyway you like. At the end of the day however you are spreading hate-filled bigotry. If that is who you are & how you & your god want to be seen then so be it. Find truth not "Truth"

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

"What will you support in you next posting mass genocide, rape, slavery. Great example of christian values!!"?

Here we go again. Can't defend yourself now that the secular system has proven to be biased, so now you resort to false accusations again. There is no mass genocide, rape, slavery here. Go to your Atheist USSR if you want to find that.

I think this video shows very clearly what kind of people Anti-theists are.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 EVERYTIME I Prove you to be an uneducated liar. You do not reply to my questions and/or proofs. This just goes to expose you to be a COWARD as well. LMAO

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

I keep on replying to you. You can't think of a good argument so you accuse me of crap I did not do. You are the coward.

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

"You do not reply to my questions and/or proofs."?

I am the one replying here. You just act like a whining diva and never read or understand my points. All you do is just make ad hominem attacks and troll.

[NEGATIONofP]

Come ON you know how many discussions with me you have run away form in the past.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 READ your bible you IDIOT. ALL these example were supported &/or commanded to be carried out by your god!!! Buy the way I forgot to include INCEST in the list. LOOK IT UP.

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

"ALL these example were supported &/or commanded to be carried out by your god!!!"?

Prove it. Don't just come here and make empty claims.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 It will take multiple replies for me to provide your proof. So buckle up little buckaroo. INCEST.

At least 6 descriptions of INCEST that your god approved of in the bible. For brevity (LOL) I will focus on 2 of the 3 in genesis.

1) Howbeit, otherwise also she is truly my sister, the daughter of my father, and not the daughter of my mother, and I took her to wife. Genesis 20:12-13

2) So the two daughters of Lot were with child by their father. [Genesis 19:31-36]

Cont.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 RAPE:

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. -- Deuteronomy 22:28-29

Also multiple occurrences of you god directing the victors of war to take the women of the concurred tribes for themselves.

Cont.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 SLAVERY

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21) Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5)

And MANY MANY more. If you need more all you need do is ask.

LMAO

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

Way to go young man. Now we see who are the real bullies. Those who are against homosexual behavior no doubt will face bullying, ridicule, name-calling and mocking.

[NEGATIONofP]

@YhwhKhaiMostHigh So did the BIGOTS that supported slavery. You support them as well? You should you bible CLEARLY does!!

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

@NEGATIONofP What a moronic argument! What the heck does homosexual behavior have to do with skin color? Typical pro-gay pathetic argument. I guess you putting something in all caps is supposed to mean something?

[NEGATIONofP]

@YhwhKhaiMostHigh 1) I said nothing about skin color I highlighted the correlation of your book being used to justify & prolong atrocities.

2) however ALL evidence points to homosexuality being something you are BORN with NOT a choice so you would be correct in drawing parallels to raciest bigots( you are aware bigots come in many different forms)

3) if you don't understand what is indicated by all caps. Try GOOGLING it LOL

[xCrucifyTheFleshx]

@NEGATIONofP There is absolutely no evidence that people are born gay.

[NEGATIONofP]

@xCrucifyTheFleshx How cute (& dangerous) the ignorant are. Did your preacher tell you that? WOW!!! PLEASE do a little research before commenting. I'll give you a quote to remember before you push the "post" button, "You can keep your mouth closed & people may consider you to be an ignorant fool, or you can open it & remove ALL doubt".

[xCrucifyTheFleshx]

@NEGATIONofP No preacher told me that, I've just studied this extensively and found that even most sexologists agree that orientation is formed during the early years, rather than at birth. If homosexuality was genetic like you presuppose, than every pair of identical twins would have the same sexuality. But we don't see that. now do we...

[NEGATIONofP]

@xCrucifyTheFleshx WOW!! You really have NO understanding of genetics do you. Are ALL identical twins the same when it comes to, athletic ability, IQ, educational aptitudes, Etc. I could go ON & ON. Pleas refer to the quote I submitted earlier!

[preparadox]

@xCrucifyTheFleshx there are significant differences in the hypothalamus of gays vs heteros...they are BORN THAT WAY...and referred to in Bible as one of three types of eunuchs

[NEGATIONofP]

@xCrucifyTheFleshx Also, this is the first article that you get from a basic google search.

US researchers find evidence that homosexuality is linked to genetics

I also can provide you with MULTIPLE peer reviewed studies sowing the links to genetics & homosexuality. If you feel up to reading REAL scientific research. WARNING: They will contain BIG words & even MATH!! LOL

[preparadox]

@xCrucifyTheFleshx false statement...there certainly IS evidence of people being born gay. Brains are different. Gay males hypothalamus is smaller, about the size of a woman's. reverse for gay females.

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

@NEGATIONofP "Google" really? Funny, ALL evidence points to there being NO gay gene. You see I can play with all caps too :)

Yup, you're a bigot. You refuse to allow those to have opinions differing from yours.  Who haven't you replied to on this page with your pro-gay crap? Sorry you're not changing anyone's views here.

Show me one thing in the New Testament that "justify & prolong atrocities"? Clutching at straws much?

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

Way to go young man. Now we see who are the real bullies. Those who are against homosexual behavior no doubt will face bullying, ridicule, name-calling and mocking.

[sparkshot]

Yeah, your not allowed an opinion these days. I had a few dabates on a forum about Creation vs evolution and the moderators were unfairly bias and ended up removing posts and then closing the thread down. Naturally I'm the 'troublemaker' becasue I expresed beliefs and proofs contrary to evolution.

[NEGATIONofP]

@sparkshot If you beliefs ARE ridiculous and HARM people you should be ridiculed!!

[sparkshot]

Yeah, your not allowed an opinion these days. I had a few dabates on a forum about Creation vs evolution and the moderators were unfairly bias and ended up removing posts and then closing the thread down. Naturally I'm the 'troublemaker' becasue I expresed beliefs and proofs contrary to evolution.

[sparkshot]

Yeah, your not allowed an opinion these days. I had a few dabates on a forum about Creation vs evolution and the moderators were unfairly bias and ended up removing posts and then closing the thread down. Naturally I'm the 'troublemaker' becasue I expresed beliefs and proofs contrary to evolution.

[Msunbird02]

well done, young man .... stand up!

[NEGATIONofP]

@Msunbird02 Yes "well done" maybe you can find a girl to RAPE, then pay her dad a few silver pieces to get a wife. This will demonstrate you to be a "good" bible believing Christian & not gay at the same time. WIN WIN

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

"maybe you can find a girl to RAPE, then pay her dad a few silver pieces to get a wife."?

You are the one with the sick mind if you are giving out this kind of advice.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 Tha "advice" comes DIRECTLY from the Bible!! If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. -- Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Have you even read the book your life is dedicated to?

[gneisenau321]

@NEGATIONofP

About Deuteronomy 22:28-29:

This verse is talking about the consequences of premarital sex.

The seducer of an unbetrothed virgin was obliged to take her as wife, paying the customary bride price and forfeiting the right of divorce.

[NEGATIONofP]

@gneisenau321 NO! You are clearly incorrect in that interpretation. But even if you could prove otherwise how would you justify all the verse where god direct his warriors to keep the virgins of concurred tribes for them selves?

[YhwhKhaiMostHigh]

@NEGATIONofP " This will demonstrate you to be a "good" bible believing Christian & not gay at the same time. WIN WIN." Wow, I never read that in the New Testament for Christians. How does bashing the Bible justify engaging in filthy gay sex and increased STDs and HIV rates in the gay community according to the CDC? This is a disgusting and deadly lifestyle. Nothing positive comes from homosexuality. Homosexuality has contribute nothing to society except higher disease rates. So LOSE LOSE!

[WONDAWOMAN]

@YhwhKhaiMostHigh I suppose you weren't informed that among hetero sexual people STD & supposed HIV INFECTIONS ARE EVEN GREATER in number than among those who engage in anti-sexual behavior. While the behavior is incorrect, it is not the teacher's business to be "punishing" the child for his sexual attraction.

[Msunbird02]

@NEGATIONofP

My comment was intended to refer to the lad's personal courage; not his religious beliefs. Rape is NOT condoned by Judaeo-Christianity by virtue of the 10th Commandment. My religion, if any, is irrelevant ... and I look forward to receiving your apology.

[NEGATIONofP]

@Msunbird02 You correct about the 10th commandment. However BOTH directives are given to man in the old testament so how do you choose? It also demonstrates just one of the 400+ contradictions in the bible. As for you statement if you choose to praise a homophobic bigot then be prepared to be treated as a contemptible piece of human garbage. No apology will be forthcoming.

[preparadox]

@NEGATIONofP you choose by going to Christ's teachings in the new testament, where he states several poignant truths, judge not, lest you be judged, love thy neighbor, there are no caveats there, and to his examples of living and teaching/healing among the most despised of peoples. LOVE is the answer, and non judgment....love and charity cover a multitude of sins...that includes for homosexuals. the LAST thing that should happen is that they are shunned and barred from fellowship in Christ.

[preparadox]

@preparadox there are no contradictions in the Bible, there are differences between before Christ, and after him...and the old testament states that God is unhappy at having been misrepresented as anything other than pure unadulterated LOVE>Christ came to set things right....and since he was the Word incarnate, clearly, bias by writers caused them to err

[warneveryonedotcom]

@preparadox The living free gift of God is for ALL by faith in Jesus Christ alone. When the gift is taken there is a transformation that occurs immediately.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2Corinthians 5:17