if anyone is having a problem with an insurance claim involiving a burglary using a bump key find a locksmith with a good reputation and retain them as an expert witness in lock forensics. There is evidence left behind by bump keys and picks.
@ffryan The normal wear seen in key pins is a polising arround the circumfrence, as the pins rotate with each use , because they are not in perfect allignment with the key blade, but the wear shown on key pins from a bumping is a dent in the pin, caused by the key rappidly striking the soft brass pin.
Good protection against bump keys: buy "bump-proof" locks. They are available at Home Depot. Deadbolts start around $50. Not perfect, but you'll have more protection. Burglar alarms connected to a central station, with an audible alarm. Yappy dogs remain the best security measure you can take. Nothing is full proof. But if you are dilligent enough you can make your home a pain in the neck to break into, in which case most average burglars won't bother.
Unless your home has been targeted by a knowledgable burglar, the more obstacles you throw at a criminal the more likely they will move onto another person's home. Burglars want to be in and out quickly without getting caught. Are they going to want to go through your bump lock, bipass your alarm, and mess with your pet.... or go to the neighbours who doesn't have any of this? I know it's bad to think about it that way but sometimes you need to be extreme when protecting your family.
Well... while bump keys may not leave much evidence outside the lock (although there is some) I find it hard to think of a part of the lock that is NOT damaged, and I can think of at least two parts that would have evidence that is unlike any normal wear, Examples: Rounded dent on face of lock above keyway, and dents in the key pins, the above would NEVER happen in normal operation.
@KJ4IPS, unfortunately all the moving parts of a lock affected by a bump key are the same wear items that get moved around whenever you use the proper key. It's tough to tell what wear was done by the home owners key and what was done by a criminal's bump key. If the bump key was older or made from a poorly made key, there might be some parts break off. But again, how do you tell for sure?
State Farm Insurance take note! We lost all our jewlery & other personal items after I met a woman from work. She had a history of getting into peoples lockers at work then having folks intimidate the victims as they went through the legal process. Claim denied becasue bump key was used and no physical damage to lock found. Insurance co's need to be forced to pay out on a bump key claim even if it does make rates go UP!
"specially made keys which can break into just about any mechanical lock in the world" Wow really?...I mean except for car locks, GOOD locks, and the new bump resistant locks... Also, you have to have a freakin blank (and correct keyway) perfectly made (they get destroyed pretty fast) to match the lock. Theres hundreds of different keys at your local hardware store, and thousands more online.
@mastermarc22 Hey easy now, this reporter has been researching bump keys for YEARS. Clearly he knows what he's talking about and wouldn't sensationalize the story or engage in fear mongering just to keep people listening. How dare you make such an outrageous assertion!?
No real thief is going to waste his TIME bumping a lock. A real professional thief would be in and out in less then 10 minutes to reduce the chance of being caught. Lock bumping alone could waste half the time!
I wish they would use things 'bump keys' and or Master Keys on It Takes a Thief on the Discovery Channnel.
I suppose a real thief professional theif would not waste his time bumping a lock. He could just quick laminate a window with a window with duck tape(less noise?) or tint and break it. He could even use a glass cutter making an 'X' on the window before lamination as seen on It Takes a Thief.
whats the point in tellin uz what thay used and how thay made it when theres only few locks with antie bump key desines ya will have everybody tryin it peoples are sa daft these days!!!!
if anyone is having a problem with an insurance claim involiving a burglary using a bump key find a locksmith with a good reputation and retain them as an expert witness in lock forensics. There is evidence left behind by bump keys and picks.
mkultra2300 1 year ago
@mkultra2300 Bump keys defiantly, but picks? What does a pick leave behind for evidence?
zacthebold 5 months ago
bump key "ring" ha ha
mkultra2300 1 year ago
who cares
420mountian 1 year ago
@ffryan The normal wear seen in key pins is a polising arround the circumfrence, as the pins rotate with each use , because they are not in perfect allignment with the key blade, but the wear shown on key pins from a bumping is a dent in the pin, caused by the key rappidly striking the soft brass pin.
KJ4IPS 1 year ago
Good protection against bump keys: buy "bump-proof" locks. They are available at Home Depot. Deadbolts start around $50. Not perfect, but you'll have more protection. Burglar alarms connected to a central station, with an audible alarm. Yappy dogs remain the best security measure you can take. Nothing is full proof. But if you are dilligent enough you can make your home a pain in the neck to break into, in which case most average burglars won't bother.
ffryan 1 year ago
Unless your home has been targeted by a knowledgable burglar, the more obstacles you throw at a criminal the more likely they will move onto another person's home. Burglars want to be in and out quickly without getting caught. Are they going to want to go through your bump lock, bipass your alarm, and mess with your pet.... or go to the neighbours who doesn't have any of this? I know it's bad to think about it that way but sometimes you need to be extreme when protecting your family.
ffryan 1 year ago
Well... while bump keys may not leave much evidence outside the lock (although there is some) I find it hard to think of a part of the lock that is NOT damaged, and I can think of at least two parts that would have evidence that is unlike any normal wear, Examples: Rounded dent on face of lock above keyway, and dents in the key pins, the above would NEVER happen in normal operation.
KJ4IPS 2 years ago
@KJ4IPS, unfortunately all the moving parts of a lock affected by a bump key are the same wear items that get moved around whenever you use the proper key. It's tough to tell what wear was done by the home owners key and what was done by a criminal's bump key. If the bump key was older or made from a poorly made key, there might be some parts break off. But again, how do you tell for sure?
ffryan 1 year ago
Guess if you get hit by a bump key thief, you will have to break a window before you call police or YOUR CLAIM IS DENIED!!
flintstone9812 2 years ago
State Farm Insurance take note! We lost all our jewlery & other personal items after I met a woman from work. She had a history of getting into peoples lockers at work then having folks intimidate the victims as they went through the legal process. Claim denied becasue bump key was used and no physical damage to lock found. Insurance co's need to be forced to pay out on a bump key claim even if it does make rates go UP!
wcu19460 2 years ago
LOL what a dumbass..The cops are tracking him for YEARS and he just keeps all the shit in his house? LOL
DetoxFmL 2 years ago 2
Gets your today at uklockpickers, oh dont break the fookin law
lockpicks08 2 years ago
half the price @ dealextreme
MRWHITE3535 2 years ago
A bump key is a key to jail..lol. Interesting though.
rbolo29 3 years ago
straght to jail...married to the man with the most smokes...and with a sore bum to boot...lmao
daleferdinand 3 years ago
these theifs are sorta dum in a way. they could have sold that stuff lol...
samzoboyo 3 years ago
thats why u dont only get just get one lock you get like 5 lol
speedstakerguy 3 years ago
"specially made keys which can break into just about any mechanical lock in the world" Wow really?...I mean except for car locks, GOOD locks, and the new bump resistant locks... Also, you have to have a freakin blank (and correct keyway) perfectly made (they get destroyed pretty fast) to match the lock. Theres hundreds of different keys at your local hardware store, and thousands more online.
mastermarc22 3 years ago
@mastermarc22 Hey easy now, this reporter has been researching bump keys for YEARS. Clearly he knows what he's talking about and wouldn't sensationalize the story or engage in fear mongering just to keep people listening. How dare you make such an outrageous assertion!?
silvermediastudio 1 year ago
No real thief is going to waste his TIME bumping a lock. A real professional thief would be in and out in less then 10 minutes to reduce the chance of being caught. Lock bumping alone could waste half the time!
rbolo29 4 years ago
I'm glad you're so on top of things. It's almost like being smart.
synthead 3 years ago 2
um...maybe not picking a lock, but bumping a lock is basically instant. Stick the key in, pull it out one notch, and WHACK! lock's open.
BlueNightWeasel 3 years ago
I wish they would use things 'bump keys' and or Master Keys on It Takes a Thief on the Discovery Channnel.
I suppose a real thief professional theif would not waste his time bumping a lock. He could just quick laminate a window with a window with duck tape(less noise?) or tint and break it. He could even use a glass cutter making an 'X' on the window before lamination as seen on It Takes a Thief.
rbolo29 4 years ago
There was one episode of "It Takes a Thief" that Jon used a bump key. That's how I found out about them.
PhatH0tG33k 3 years ago
am gona try it later haha watch yar house :P kiddin on hahaha
deejaystyle1 4 years ago
whats the point in tellin uz what thay used and how thay made it when theres only few locks with antie bump key desines ya will have everybody tryin it peoples are sa daft these days!!!!
deejaystyle1 4 years ago
I just made me a key and I cant wait to get my plasma!!!
:P
RIIIIIIIIGHT. A key to jail, thats what that is.
electrickrypt 4 years ago
let this be an example.
Slimpickingsooooo 4 years ago
Uaaaa! Busted^^
Why did they stack the stuff at home? Man!
derast 4 years ago 2
Busted!
dodge6969 4 years ago