Art in the Cropper Lyceum Curriculum

[libertariananarchist]

on a serious note in private school i had a great art teacher. we did all sorts of things.ive also won awards on projects she entered at the county fair. she never told us should enter them and i think that helped my creativity. now in public school i had a crapy teacher and i had no intrest in his class

[libertariananarchist]

Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.

Adolf Hitler

[TheDogRibs]

Hey Cropper, it's been a while since I've minced you into a salad. God your videos are boring. I'd rather have my eyes toothpicked open to reruns of Rosie O'Donnel shows than watch this misguided tripe. Go read some Foucault.

[NathanZimmerman]

Fine. You have a necessary and sufficient condition (though clearly it is a BIT strict!). Now, I want to know HOW music is a conceptual medium. People have argued that what makes music interesting is precisely that it is NOT conceptual.

[eventide925]

I like it, But is it art?

It seems subjective to me.

[courtabeth]

Reminds me of that first year grad student who has read four books and thinks he knows everything when in fact making statements like Kant is a nazi reveal his utter ignorance and lack of talent as a thinker.

[gabrielevery]

also, I love how Rand comments on things that she isn't at all a part of... rand decides, she decides? this tendency is why she is rejected as a philosopher... she falls into the ditch right next to L. Ron Hubbard.... Its also funny that her ideas of 'art' are the exact same ideas that Hitler had of "art"...and don't even fucking attempt to rebut that claim

[cropperb]

Rand has not been rejected as a philosopher. It's only a few ignoramouses that haven't ever taken the effort to think who haven't realized she is among the most important thinkers in history.

Rand and Hitler had the same view of art? That's rediculus on its face.

[gabrielevery]

I don't get it. You group Picasso & Kandinsky together, and they are night and day apart. Matisse and Picasso were probably the 'safest' artists of that time period. Picasso painted a ton of 'objective art'. His cubist period was very very short lived. America gave us the mundane John Singer Sargent... our realization came at the hands of the Pollock era, and culminated with Basquiat...Once again, you are speaking about something that you have a spectators view of.

[beyond87]

unless they switched the definitions recenty..

when i say objective, i mean: not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased

i don't understand why making it a capital O would change *that much* of the meaning.

[beyond87]

aristole lived 2300 years ago, how do you not understand that 'change' is an inevitable part of human exsistence-without it, there would have been no Aristole in the first place! Your interpretation of art & art history is so off mark...its as if you are TRYING to get it wrong... You are like one of those people that say Nietzsche was the first Nazi. Why do you people call yourselves 'objectivists' when you are doing EVERYTHING BUT BEING OBJECTIVE!

[cropperb]

Kant was the first Nazi.... Well, unless you let me go outside of the German national Zonerstarssa, in which case Plato was the first Nazi.

[NathanZimmerman]

I always thought national socialism was hiding behind the noumena. Thanks for revealing this OBVIOUS truth to us. How did I not see it in my read of the first critique?!?

[Aynology]

Aynother affirmation of Reality * Reason * Romanticism.  O: The Three 'R's of Objectivism :O

[kompiled]

Those chess bookends are sweet.

[parispeter2]

By putting the cold sore in there, the artist is saying: "I prefer reality to a sanitised, idealised version of it" or "we don't live in a world of fantasy, reality is imperfect and we have to love it as it is". Great visual art is non-conceptual, since if it could be put into words why not write a book instead?

[cropperb]

All visual art is non-conceptual. As to "preffering reality to an idealised version..." you have hit the nail on the head. Aristotle said art should depict reality, not as it is, but as it could be and should be. If you want "reality" as it is, you don't have much imagination.

[parispeter2]

Of course art doesn't just have one function. One of these is indeed escapism. But another is teaching us to notice and look at things we don't normally see because we are too busy or living in a fantasy world.

[snuffydoug]

So youll teach them about people like Sol LeWitt.

[cropperb]

Who's that?

[snuffydoug]

I just learn't about him today. Apparently, he was an American artist linked to conceptual art and minimalism. That is according to Wikipedia.

[cropperb]

I doubt they are talking about conceptual art. In all likelyhood, they are talking about anti-conceptual art, especially if he is a minimalist....

...Uh, yeah, I just googled him. I'm not talking about crap like that.

[snuffydoug]

Yeah, I didn't think you were talking about that "kind" of art. Quite frankly I was a bit confused as he was listed as a conceptual artist.