hey nice vid.. would you mind just to record another session with line? so we can apreciate how deep and fat or thin and shallow the sound is... i am looking at the dsi tetra, doepfer dark energy perhaps as well... but i am not sure.. and now i see this - but its not really the best audio quality... do you mind showing if its capable to do deep fat bass sounds?
@vstbull I'm not going to because by this point, there are plenty of other videos out there that are better recorded than this one and show off what you're looking for. Just in the recommended videos on the sidebar, there's the 'my MFB Kraftzwerg Nu Trance' and 'Kraftzwerg as an IDM-Groovemachine' videos. Besides that, this is YouTube: When has anything uploaded to this site ever been truly hifi?
@Woefiej It can be controlled with anything that transmits MIDI, but since the scaling is off slightly, it's best to use some sort of MIDI-CV converter instead if you're going to go the MIDI route.
i happen to find a patchbook for the minimoog. do you think the mini is complicated enough to justify the existence of this book?
kraftzwerg comes with blank patches too...anyway it depends of what you use it for.
of course the best is to stick the cables into and tweak the buttons. we all do that but it's nice to exchange ideas bcause there is always something that didn't cross your mind.
I think in the case of the MiniMoog, it was justified though because when that came out, the whole concept of slapping a keyboard onto a synthesizer was such a new thing, that nobody had any idea what they were doing in the first place. If synthesizers were being used back then in the same manner that they are today, a patch book would have been completely unnecessary. Case in point: The Moog Voyager doesn't come with patch sheets but instead has a tutorial on synthesis.
hey, great demo.i also own a kraftzwerg and love it very much.
i am happy to see more demos of this marvel. i was wandering if there exist some community of krafzwerg users to exchange patches but found nothing yet.
Personally, I don't see what function a patch exchange site would serve. The Kraftzwerg is simple enough to use that the basic utilitarian sounds can be drawn up within seconds. If you're looking for a how-to guide for more esoteric sounds, I'd turn to the Secrets of Synthesis series posted on Sound on Sound's website or even the Arp 2600 manual. Though really, I think the way to get the best use out of this beastie is to just grab patch cables and shape the sound to your heart's content.
That's great, thanks for the reply, and thanks for the demo! Good job. I was really wanting to hear about the character of the oscillators, so thanks for that! Thinking I'll pick up a kraftzwerg...
They are too very different machines. The Kraftzwerg is three-osc with a LP filter while the XS is a two-osc with a multimode filter. I find that the Kraftzwerg has much more room to maneuver when it comes to patch creation because it has far more patch points than the XS. With the XS, you're kinda stuck with a pseudo-fixed architecture. In fact, there's nothing the patchpoints can provide that the onboard modulation section can't.
The Kraftzwerg is also a lot more 'Moogish' than the XS. The XS is just more about straight-up aggression than anything else. As far as comparing them to the Voyager... I think the Kraftzwerg beats the Voyager in that it has the capability of sounding more like a Model D while at the same time offering much larger patch versatility. XS vs. Voyager... there really is no comparison. The XS much closer to an MS-20 in its character than a Moog.
what is the magical keyboard with teh thousand of buttons and pots??? it's just like a dream
Goldigin 9 months ago
@Goldigin That's an Alesis Andromeda A6. I have one, and yes it's like a dream
ribfeast 6 months ago
@ribfeast If your dream involves being raped by a squirrel then yes, it's a dream. :-D
FatSynthDude 6 months ago 2
hey nice vid.. would you mind just to record another session with line? so we can apreciate how deep and fat or thin and shallow the sound is... i am looking at the dsi tetra, doepfer dark energy perhaps as well... but i am not sure.. and now i see this - but its not really the best audio quality... do you mind showing if its capable to do deep fat bass sounds?
thank you
vstbull 1 year ago
@vstbull I'm not going to because by this point, there are plenty of other videos out there that are better recorded than this one and show off what you're looking for. Just in the recommended videos on the sidebar, there's the 'my MFB Kraftzwerg Nu Trance' and 'Kraftzwerg as an IDM-Groovemachine' videos. Besides that, this is YouTube: When has anything uploaded to this site ever been truly hifi?
FatSynthDude 1 year ago
what is wrong with it's sequenser?
JVGmidi 1 year ago
@JVGmidi The worst problem in the universe: It doesn't have a sequencer.
FatSynthDude 1 year ago
fukkin' bad Quality! ... when you make a Demo of a Synthesizer record the Line output, not with your Cam Mic ...
Tastendruekka 1 year ago
@Tastendruekka If it'll make you feel better about it, we could always take our shirts off and kiss!
FatSynthDude 1 year ago 3
@FatSynthDude Just do what he says man! We need line capturing, not iPhone kaka capturing....
hedegaard8 1 year ago
Wow sick and dirty on the end... Fine demo.
Knr911 1 year ago
Any chance of you doing a demo of that A6 Andomeda underneath?
dudewhosaysarrh 1 year ago
@dudewhosaysarrh No chance at all. I just sold it a couple of weeks ago and quite frankly, I'm really glad to be out from underneath that thing.
FatSynthDude 1 year ago
@Woefiej It can be controlled with anything that transmits MIDI, but since the scaling is off slightly, it's best to use some sort of MIDI-CV converter instead if you're going to go the MIDI route.
FatSynthDude 1 year ago
Beautiful ... you just convinced me to order mine ;)
timcheckley 1 year ago
@timcheckley Groovy!
FatSynthDude 1 year ago
i happen to find a patchbook for the minimoog. do you think the mini is complicated enough to justify the existence of this book?
kraftzwerg comes with blank patches too...anyway it depends of what you use it for.
of course the best is to stick the cables into and tweak the buttons. we all do that but it's nice to exchange ideas bcause there is always something that didn't cross your mind.
pneumachina 2 years ago
I think in the case of the MiniMoog, it was justified though because when that came out, the whole concept of slapping a keyboard onto a synthesizer was such a new thing, that nobody had any idea what they were doing in the first place. If synthesizers were being used back then in the same manner that they are today, a patch book would have been completely unnecessary. Case in point: The Moog Voyager doesn't come with patch sheets but instead has a tutorial on synthesis.
FatSynthDude 2 years ago
hey, great demo.i also own a kraftzwerg and love it very much.
i am happy to see more demos of this marvel. i was wandering if there exist some community of krafzwerg users to exchange patches but found nothing yet.
pneumachina 2 years ago
Personally, I don't see what function a patch exchange site would serve. The Kraftzwerg is simple enough to use that the basic utilitarian sounds can be drawn up within seconds. If you're looking for a how-to guide for more esoteric sounds, I'd turn to the Secrets of Synthesis series posted on Sound on Sound's website or even the Arp 2600 manual. Though really, I think the way to get the best use out of this beastie is to just grab patch cables and shape the sound to your heart's content.
FatSynthDude 2 years ago
That's great, thanks for the reply, and thanks for the demo! Good job. I was really wanting to hear about the character of the oscillators, so thanks for that! Thinking I'll pick up a kraftzwerg...
brandonrsmith 2 years ago
Glad to have been of service.
FatSynthDude 2 years ago
I see a future retro xs next to it - comparison? Thinking of picking up one or the other.
What comparison would you make to either to moog voyager stuff?
brandonrsmith 2 years ago
They are too very different machines. The Kraftzwerg is three-osc with a LP filter while the XS is a two-osc with a multimode filter. I find that the Kraftzwerg has much more room to maneuver when it comes to patch creation because it has far more patch points than the XS. With the XS, you're kinda stuck with a pseudo-fixed architecture. In fact, there's nothing the patchpoints can provide that the onboard modulation section can't.
FatSynthDude 2 years ago
The Kraftzwerg is also a lot more 'Moogish' than the XS. The XS is just more about straight-up aggression than anything else. As far as comparing them to the Voyager... I think the Kraftzwerg beats the Voyager in that it has the capability of sounding more like a Model D while at the same time offering much larger patch versatility. XS vs. Voyager... there really is no comparison. The XS much closer to an MS-20 in its character than a Moog.
FatSynthDude 2 years ago