Good video! I'm still swimming through the sea of confusion here but I can see that this video sheds some light on it. I just need to watch it a few more times to get my head wrapped around it.
I think you are doing a great job. I am Thai but still Learning too . Well ,it is good to be able to learn from you .Only some times you couldnt pronouce some of the letters.
The explanation of why the consonants are grouped the way they are ("what part of the mouth is used") is a very helpful piece of information on the alphabet background. Thank you! The class of the consonant as I understand is needed to make it possible to write down tones along with sounds, however why are there multiple consonants that make the same sound (or do they?) and are of the same class, for example 5th 6th and 7th consonant in the alphabet? Thanks!
"..if two or more consonant sounds can be written with consonant letters belonging to the same class, a conflict arises. In such a case the choice of consonant letter is determined solely by the dictates of the rules of correct spelling" (C) THE THAI SYSTEM OF WRITING by Mary R. Haas
To answer your question we have to touch on the history of the writting system. When the Thais (or Siamnese if you will) borrowed words from other languages (Khmer, Pali, Sanskrit, etc), we borrowed/invented new letters to represent these new sounds as well.
For example ธ used to be pronounced [θ], ฑ was [ð], therefore it didn't clash with ท [t] but after a while these sounds (or phonemes) merged with each other, but the spelling hasnt changed (much). so we ended up with lots of homophones.
I think "ห" is very tricky. When I first started writing I tried to spell every word with "ห" not knowing it was more like a vowel. Meet my good friend "ฮ"้haha
one hour a day untill your fluent, or 30 min a day...you can do it! pick one area of the lanuage 1st then the other. Alphabet consanants 1st....then vowels...then togather.... step by step you can over come the INNER fear, and the OBVIOUS over whelm. speaking try tourist informations first...master that info, then try your next level info, master that info DAILY, short spurts, music occasionaly and one Thia movie weekly, plus dont worry when training or its not effective or fun. Blessings!
Good video! I'm still swimming through the sea of confusion here but I can see that this video sheds some light on it. I just need to watch it a few more times to get my head wrapped around it.
vitus7 8 months ago
I think you are doing a great job. I am Thai but still Learning too . Well ,it is good to be able to learn from you .Only some times you couldnt pronouce some of the letters.
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MrJohn3636 8 months ago
Didn't get it... T_T
Krittayot95 8 months ago
Thank you so much for this (and the others) video! You're the best!
yamatomizuochi 8 months ago in playlist Thai Lessons
Thanks so much for this video! Really helps to clarify the rules a lot.
raitaiboo1 9 months ago
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ThaiTreasures 9 months ago
this is super confusing language.
sh3n3ng 11 months ago
Waaaa help me So hard
smithyeoadam 1 year ago
ใครขายไข่ไก่=who's seling chicken eggs. :D
waritgreen 1 year ago
This was such a good explanation of Thai consonant types and groupings!
imallthaidup 1 year ago
You know , this is hard for me too. Even I'm Thai.
NitroZTH 1 year ago
คนไทยคิดว่าภาษาอื่นออกเสียงยาก... ผมว่าภาษาไทยเนี่ยแหละออกเสียงยากที่สุดแล้วครับสำหรับคนชาติอื่น 555+
pongapolarman 1 year ago 8
Such a clear and well explained video thanks
johnbugden1999 1 year ago
The Thai's have one hell of an alphabet huh? LoL.
devildriver4687 2 years ago
The explanation of why the consonants are grouped the way they are ("what part of the mouth is used") is a very helpful piece of information on the alphabet background. Thank you! The class of the consonant as I understand is needed to make it possible to write down tones along with sounds, however why are there multiple consonants that make the same sound (or do they?) and are of the same class, for example 5th 6th and 7th consonant in the alphabet? Thanks!
glutio 2 years ago
Answering to myself:
"..if two or more consonant sounds can be written with consonant letters belonging to the same class, a conflict arises. In such a case the choice of consonant letter is determined solely by the dictates of the rules of correct spelling" (C) THE THAI SYSTEM OF WRITING by Mary R. Haas
glutio 2 years ago
However it doesn't answer why this is the way it is, why there are multiple consonants of the same class producing the same sound....
glutio 2 years ago
To answer your question we have to touch on the history of the writting system. When the Thais (or Siamnese if you will) borrowed words from other languages (Khmer, Pali, Sanskrit, etc), we borrowed/invented new letters to represent these new sounds as well.
LingNaiMueng 2 years ago
For example ธ used to be pronounced [θ], ฑ was [ð], therefore it didn't clash with ท [t] but after a while these sounds (or phonemes) merged with each other, but the spelling hasnt changed (much). so we ended up with lots of homophones.
LingNaiMueng 2 years ago
@LingNaiMueng Thanks for the explanation!
glutio 2 years ago
very close to native thai. I thought you try very hard. very nice indeed I really admire you.
PS. ญวน อ่านว่า ยวน ไม่ใช่ ย้วน ครับ
bloody3nglish 2 years ago 2
Thank You!
I thought I was reading Thai fluently, but I still have some stuff to work on!
It is a great language.
OM3N1R 2 years ago
I think "ห" is very tricky. When I first started writing I tried to spell every word with "ห" not knowing it was more like a vowel. Meet my good friend "ฮ"้haha
RebelOnetimeRIH 2 years ago
Thai language has too many characters, but Laotian is alot easier because Lao language has less characters than Thai.
PookieIsYourBoo 2 years ago
@PookieIsYourBoo
I agree that Thai has too many characters. It could be simplified
like Laos!!!!
tumsabai1 1 year ago
LOL I remember going through all the alphabet and vowel untill 4th grade? It was dam hard
Don't worry if you just learning, I'm 20 I still can't remember the tone and I used it everyday lol
ไก่ จิก เด็ก ตาย บน ปาก โอ่ง จำได้อันเดียว xD
pakhavit 2 years ago
Excellent presentation! Best I've ever watched!
Anyuta1982 2 years ago
Thanks so much for your videos. You're so clear and easy to understand.
farang82 3 years ago
one hour a day untill your fluent, or 30 min a day...you can do it! pick one area of the lanuage 1st then the other. Alphabet consanants 1st....then vowels...then togather.... step by step you can over come the INNER fear, and the OBVIOUS over whelm. speaking try tourist informations first...master that info, then try your next level info, master that info DAILY, short spurts, music occasionaly and one Thia movie weekly, plus dont worry when training or its not effective or fun. Blessings!
Kharami888 3 years ago
The tone representation at 7:30 (the word on the right) is wrong. It should show a falling tone, not rising.
Thanks for the videos, btw... I love them!
kagejs999 3 years ago
Naa is falling, both pronounced and spelled. Transliteration is never to be taken seriously.
ashoka10 2 years ago
Thai alphabet, Thai vowels and Thai numerals are all Khmer's. I hate when Thais never mention the word Khmer in Thai culture.
DangersMines 3 years ago
@DangersMines
How did you know that !!!???
I'm Thai and I'm know that it develop from Khmer.
The Teacher teach me in my Thai first class and every Thai People know this.
Hate Racism
plenoinarak 1 year ago
excellent explanation
plus7bkk 3 years ago
omg, I don't understand......too differcult
SWMTD 3 years ago
Excellently presented.
byb31 3 years ago
สงสารคนเรียนภาษาไทย = =;
พยายามามากเลย
kingyo 3 years ago
wow u hav great knowledge
im thai and many things here are new to me xD
good for a linguistic student
lov2us 3 years ago
Thai is so hard to learn!!
harrypotter271828 3 years ago
อย่าอยู่อย่างอยาก = don't live a greedy life.
Anakolov 3 years ago
Great! I'll have to remember this as a mnemonic device for remembering the four อย words :)
ashoka10 3 years ago
@ashoka10 There's god damn S***loads of those man I tell you. You want some? I'll name them.
waritgreen 1 year ago
It is a very nice vdo for learning thai.
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persanit 3 years ago 2
amazing! as a student of sanskrit and thai these videos are great
Nirodho 4 years ago 2