Besides acting like a baby who shoves everything in the mouth to test it...what exactly do they expect to gain with those theories?(besides further types of bombs,or fill some need for them to replace everything with machines,and ending up with mass-side affects and further need to shove their ass deeper in "exploration" in order to correct dumb).
I believe that "the quest for truth" ends in "Digging holes for resources",And eventually it's ignoring the fact that humans don't know what they do.
@sinachiniforoosh And the very fact that there are endless numbers of people in the world that the only way to communicate with them is Via-PC is simply sad.
From the Cave of prehistoric times to the Water-well of the ancient history,to the Forums of Rome/Greece to the Forums of the internet...the only thing that really changed is the Number of people within them,and the size of their expansion-the main idea is exactly the same,simply bigger and rather sadder.
@sinachiniforoosh Being in a cave does not make your life suddenly shorter,there are enough Yogs and Hermits that live a farting long live with nothing much,it's a matter of Wisdom to be able to live long with little resources.
There are many ways to live,simply keep an optimal level of everything,and remaining in a balanced way that will actually give progression instead of dealing with expansion in more sophisticated ways,which cause further expansion that needs MORE way to handle it...lame.
@Wharwulif try that without modern medicine, see how it goes.Will you make it to 80? I doubt.the average life span has increased as a RESULT of modern medicine.Man, so many ignorant people out there...
@sinachiniforoosh And why you think that 80 is an age to inspire for? have you looked at the masses of old people who can't do anything? or the rest who nobody wish to employ?
People live TOO long man,and you end up with a population of old guys,and the only ones who take joy are those with cash to afford it.
Also,I don't care about living long,I'll gladly die before I reach 80.
Also-check medical waste,it's a hazard by itself.
You are ignorant to results by ignorant feeling of Success+pride.
@Wharwulif Oh, so people must die young for preventing over population? that is immoral and stupid.To prevent overpopulation, we must stop making babies, not stop using medicine to die young! We must promote the quality of our lives.Medical waste is not hazard in principle, it is the stupidity of people that makes it hazardous.(part 1)
@Wharwulif 150,000 people die everyday, and that's about 2 thirds of them die of old age.you may want to die young, that's your preference, and no one objects it.But who are you and me to decide how much other people must live?!
@sinachiniforoosh The more people there are,the more people will die,it's obvious.
If people want so much to be a damm zombie,and cling onto life by doing ANYTHING they can to live 1 second longer,and that's the ugly part-They are willing to do WHATEVER it takes in to evade death a bit more.
Indeed it's not our decision what they do with their life,but it's kinda the fault of science to make this into an obsession for people,has they drive themselves to seek immortality by ANY means necessary.
@Wharwulif All I'm saying is that people MUST be given the chance to live longer.Many people have done a lot good to the world in their older ages, many contributions, and it is not necessarily being a zombie.
@sinachiniforoosh About that...People are given the chance,the question is-how they end up using it,and quiet frankly...humans are creatures with a vast diverse of options,yet they waste them away...And that actually makes me feel more sorry then angry for their entire way of using what they got.
If we go about "good" and "bad" you would reach a dead point of interpretation rather then complete truth.
Zombie=Being addicted/inslaved to being alive.yet the young carry the old within them in a way.
@Wharwulif I really don't understand it, all I say is that many of our achievements (maybe all of them?) are because of science, and, as somebody who studies science, I feel pissed off to hear "it's all waste of time" no it isn't. It makes us progress to live a better life.
@sinachiniforoosh I won't argue with that,but I'll argue that the waste of time considering what we see on the surface-it's an addiction to a fantastic tool.
The addiction comes in the way that people find themselves trying to make every usage possible from a specific discovery to a point where they become rather dependent upon it (--OIL--)and with each fix,they need something better/faster/stronger.
And like the Easter island-people end up remaining with Nothing at all due to abuse of resources
@Wharwulif whether we are going to abuse resources, whether we are going to be strongly dependent on resources, all these are our choice.And it has nothing to do with spending time to find out more and more about the world (which is not a waste of time in my opinion, if you think it is I don't know how to change that view!).
And I can't help emphasizing that science is not just a tool.It's an amazing worldview.
@sinachiniforoosh Yes,it is your choice...simply not an interesting one,and not very wise in the end...but hey,people love to write their achievements in a book to say "I done it Faster/better/harder/stronger",if you wish to reach a limit,say "yay",it's common.
Would be much more interesting to actually exist the primitive ways,and try to form something truly different,which will cause a change that echos,rather then bury in the sands.
Waste of time on the LONG run-Let's leave it there for best.
@Wharwulif no, that's not what scientist do science for, for writing 'their achievements in a book to say "I done it Faster/better/harder/stronger" ' no, they do it for the sake of science, for the joy. I don't know what makes you say that.Science has a LOT more than that.
@sinachiniforoosh Hey,has long has no one is making any progress on guarding discoveries and knowledge from those seeking to misuse it for whatever agenda,Then that would be the result-simply a passing golden age,and wasted information that future generations will plunder about "how they did that!",yet remain oblivious.
What I say is more of a friendly warning to moderate discovery/usage rate and functions,or ells we end up in what I said-reaching a limit and finishing there.
@sinachiniforoosh Also,in a matter of "amazing" is a view of the beholder.
I personally don't like mechanics-because the more complex they become,the more affect they do and more resources they need,and they become less fun to tinker with.
Science has Theorizing is actually harmless,and tend to end up in trying to fill the blanks of a very vast mechanical structure called "universe".
The harm is caused when someone is trying to USE it practically-which ends up rather badly in the end of it.
@sinachiniforoosh It's not a matter of knowing,it's a matter of opinion on the subject.
Also with my damm imagination I lack the capability to be amazed by anything...because it all seems like I seen it before,and that actually sucks in a way.
My imagination kinda picked that everything within existence is exactly the same thing in a different form/shape/capabilities,yet still the same.
I prefer to plunder on the meaning of it all rather then how it works,And I kinda got my answer already.
@sinachiniforoosh Ancient people were too busy trying to survive,fight other people,worship gods for the sake of Luck or to explain their suffering and overall...grow and expend(main occupation)In some situation,there was a stability that offered much Free-thinking.In those times,people focused on gaining either wisdom or insanity upon their mortal life.
I don't remember being an ancient "naturalist" philosopher,but what you mean by that?wisdom of native Americans?pagans?Zen masters?
@Wharwulif Ancient (Greek) naturalist philosophers were those who suggested the fire-water-earth-wind explanation for diversity in nature, and that is what held humanity back for ages.In order to know the world better, you can't just sit and think about it, you have to do experiments and "get your hands dirty.".
@sinachiniforoosh I don't find the philosophy within that,but if you think it deeper,it's kinda like stating the obvious forms of seen stuff-Liquid,solid,gass,and Life(If you think about it,fire is kinda like life-consume resources until it's unable to for some reason).
Stating/theorizing/imagining what the world is made out of does not state what it means,it simply gives a "background" if you might say.
Never knew that is a Naturalist philosopher...Yet I don't find why you brought it up,explain
@Wharwulif your statements just shows your lack of understanding of physics.It is not the same thing changing.Our understanding of the universe has changed radically as a result of physicists' work.Quantum physics, for example, gives us a whole different picture than does classical physics.All I'm saying is you can't find things out by imagination, you need to study the thing scientifically. and here's why I said it: "My imagination kinda picked that everything within existence is exactly the...
@sinachiniforoosh Your understanding ends up in "There is something smaller causing that something to work",and that's kinda everything you end up finding-think about that.
Tell me that "something makes something work" is not the common in every scientific discovery?because if there is a discovery that does not go in THAT direction,then Show.
Imagination simply keeps your mind open,it's when you start looking at the entire thing together in every perspective that makes you realize the Patterns.
@Wharwulif You are just misunderstanding this very badly.No, the fundamental proposition in science is not "There is something smaller causing that something to work", it is that "natural world tends to behave in similar ways at different times, now what is the way nature tends to behave?" of course putting it the way you did makes it seem ridiculous, but every scientific discovery is associated with new ways of thinking, new horizons, and a whole lot of questions being answered.
@sinachiniforoosh Yes,what I say DOES make it seem ridiculous and highly simplistic,but you got to admit that's where it goes...Science simplify things for people,that's the point,I simply simplified the eventual end of science,it's application is important for the main goals of humanity...yet,the goals themselves needs to evolve I believe.
New ways of thinking is "maybe the world is based on X rather then Y",yet the "based of" or "it's a result of" or "functions upon" are kinda the same thing.
@Wharwulif "I simply simplified the eventual end of science" well you did it in a horribly wrong way, science is all about progress, and getting better and better.each level is associated with more interesting questions, more interesting knowledge.Doing science is like excavating into the ground, it may never end, but it is always great to discover new passages in there.
@sinachiniforoosh You should listen to the very notion of "growth" within your words...That is exactly the thing I noticed about too much stuff within this universe,expansion.
You should stare deeply for your desire for more,it's not an addiction-it's the very core of many many things eventually...I hope that I'm not one of them.
@Wharwulif A good goal is one that you can never reach.You can be satisfied with a simple little thing, and you can want more and more, in cases like science, it is not like an unhealthy addiction, it is a great process with many amazing outcomes.It doesn't hurt people.
@sinachiniforoosh The harm/help of science is a matter of view-point.
Have you ever played a game that never ends?one that keeps offering you stronger monsters to fight,bigger quest to take part in...massive options that forever grows,story-lines that keeps getting deeper and deeper?
What happens when you compare each level to the next?You say"this one is bigger/better/faster/so on...",yet if you stare at the basic idea...it kinda remains the same,doesn't it?you redo the grown goal until you die
@Wharwulif the difference here is that in science, each level is radically different, and the basic idea is changing radically in every level.(see also, the other comment.)
@sinachiniforoosh How about you tell me the finest example of a radical change you have in mind,with some detail that show the radical side,we will see if what I say matched the concept.
@Wharwulif Okay, one good example is when the quantum physics came.Before that, physicist thought that every matter, from tiny atoms to big stars, are governed by the laws of physics, every movement is pre-determined by those laws, we have no choice, and the whole universe is like a clock, set on to work forever.Some said that if there was a very fast calculating machine, it could tell what are we going to do all the way to the infinity.Quantum physics in contrast, gave whole new ideas about...
@sinachiniforoosh It's funny,but I always see laws has illusion,for there is no order within chaos,only patterns,and the only order is only within The Nothing.
@Wharwulif well, that's what you see, it isn't necessarily true.Laws in science have a different meaning.They are propositions made by us to describe how nature works.But if we see that some phenomenon don't "obey" the laws, it doesn't mean that they are criminals of course, it means the "laws" were not correct.Yet it is not complete chaos there is order in the way the nature tends to behave, as well as chaos.
@sinachiniforoosh Laws are but patterns formed by reactions of endless things to each other.
Chaos itself Has a specific order-which comes to the point that everything interacts in a way with another thing,and for some reason-stuff seems to expand by energy or indirect affect and retract either by being depleted from energy or indirect affect of some sort rather much...or the smaller scale it might seem differently,yet that's the eventual effect.
@Wharwulif It's called self-assembly.But the thing is we don't fully understand the patterns yet, and the goal of science is to find out more about them.remember that your whole picture ("chaos") may not be right.
@sinachiniforoosh The very notion we exist(Existence by itself is something we get by our senses,therefor proving we even exist is another question by itself =P) is a rather random event,you can state it's rather...Chaotic-patterns,unless something has set something in certain specific rule motion(lets not assume god now,for it REALLY does NOT matter).
Again,if you wish to understand what is Order-simply think about the concept of Nothing,then you would realize to where and what I compare things
@Wharwulif I do have an understanding of what order is.but simply thinking about the order caused by random and chaotic behavior of the nature does not tell you anything whatsoever about the universe, as I said, n order to understand more, you must get your hands dirty and instead of pure thinking, you must get to "ask nature herself" about how she behaves, by doing science.
@sinachiniforoosh Looking at nature by myself,and also at my own life...Randomness is highly notable =P.I'll agree that the only order within existence is formed by small fabrics of Law that tend to reach locations where they collapse under the affects of something ells.
Overall,indeed it's an assumption that everything is Complete chaos,yet if you assume there is order-then you need to know that order is something that cannot be broken,like a Core.
@Wharwulif ... how nature works, it implied that subatomic particles and even atoms and some molecules behave very differently than what we're used to.they are everywhere (literally) at a given time, they don't have a defined position or velocity. It implied that our world may work in a probabilistic way, everything is not pre-determined, and we are not mere puppets.It said that there are fundamental limits for our understanding of the subatomic world.it introduced wave-particle duality, and...
@Wharwulif it revolutionized the way we look at the world in that way (you can learn a lot more about it, it's not just that, it introduced things that seemed insane to previous physicists, like negative kinetic energy, it is still insane isn't it?) meanwhile, theories like big bang and relativity also revolutionized our worldview but in different ways.Before that, we thought time is like an arrow that has always existed (what does always mean in this sentence by the way?!)but then we...
@sinachiniforoosh I find time to be a simple illusion of calculating the distance between events rather then something worth thinking about.
Seems like it fits the "X makes Y work",has you discover that it's not "rules" but "random particles/energies/thingies" that cause things to reach their situation...Overall,it follows the Bigger idea-for...more options rather then earlier limitations,yet...It doesn't change anything,the only law the world is confined to-is everything reactions to itself.
@Wharwulif Well what you say, that time is an illusion, is just your opinion, which i don't see what it's based upon.there is possibility that you're right, but i don't take views about things that simply.I'd rather look for the answers, not make them up with my imagination.
@sinachiniforoosh The reason I say it's an illusion is because it does not "pass",and look back to the time it was invented-it's simply a measuring tool of events.
In a object with no energy or affect,there won't be any time-for it won't move,therefor there won't be any action,if you take 2 object alone with affect to each other-they will react one way or another to each other,this "action" caused makes an event of movement,which is measured by Time.Stronger the reaction-Faster the "event" is.
@Wharwulif what you say implies that time doesn't pass for the things that don't change, yet it does.Time does pass.time is a real thing, it is the measure of what you call "distance" between events, well that "distance" is time.and there is no such strict thing as "event" since changes happen in a continuous way.Or at least there is not enough reason to think there is.
@sinachiniforoosh You should think about comparing time that passes inside an ice-cube to time passing upon the surface of the Sun.what gives you the illusion of time is that you stand outside both of them,looking at your watch where the time is determined by a specific measure you decide(second,minute,so on..)
If you place a MEGA-watch(survive everything) inside an ice cube,or on the surface of the sun,you might see the difference(or just use Speed extreme opposites of items for that matter).
@Wharwulif I don't think so, time passes everywhere, at a rate independent of how the "place" changes, but dependent on other factors like the amount of mass around it (that's what science says, and that's why i say that pure thinking is not enough)
@sinachiniforoosh It's not the "location",but the affect of stuff upon it,ice is location will less affect,sun is a location with Mass-affect,if we go further,place something within nothing,and it will either collapse to itself by self-affect,and then expand due to the pressure build up inside...Or it could just collapse in the emptiness and what happens depends on the parts reaction to each other.
Yet,place something in complete "0" energy and place something in "Endless" energy,you will see it
@sinachiniforoosh Time is a measuring tool exactly like Length and weight and Measure-energy-thingy,it depends upon numbers YOU set,the "action" is indeed constant,for there is always reaction between things,that is why you can measure time forever,exactly like length if you start measuring either longer,or looking deeper into the length you are measuring.same with weight-measure and energy-measurement.
@Wharwulif understood that time itself has a beginning, it can run "slow" or "fast" it can stop, and it is closely related to velocity.So this is how revolutionary it changes our worldview.
@sinachiniforoosh Slow and fast are determined by the affects upon the object/material being affected by energy/other material.
Time itself began most likely with whatever first reaction happened between materials that caused them to move,again...Time is just a measuring tool between events caused by the "action",people give TOO much credit for it.
@Wharwulif get it? your imagination. Following your imagination doesn't lead you to answers unless you have a proper understanding of how the universe works, which is given by science.I gave an example for why it doesn't work, namely ancient philosophers suggestions about the natural world.
@sinachiniforoosh Imagination is a vast tool,you can do everything you want with it,and mind has no restrictions what so ever.
Again,I don't care HOW it works,because HOW=X,the X does not matter unless you seek to use it for some purpose of your own.
I don't find any wisdom in the example you showed,yet it is logical on basic level of view,yes-it's made out of SMALLER parts,and SMALLER energies and SMALLER reactions and SO ON,don't blame them for not having the tools to see Deeper then that.
@Wharwulif Well that point of view they had, and which you are sharing with them solved absolutely nothing about the problems and questions we all have.There is not necessarily a "SO ON" you just make it seem ridiculous.whether there is a "SO ON" is still a question, and every time they discovered there might be another "SO ON" it was for a whole different reason than before.
@sinachiniforoosh So on is the endless quest for an answer...you will never get any that will satisfy you.
The questions become obsessions,the primal question of "why we are alive" is simply because of random chance that you got into a body that gave you the option to think about that.
The reason you need to ask is because humans developed the capability to utilize their surrounding to the fullest,you ask out of need to adapt further,"Evolve"in a manner of way,yet remain with the same goal.
@Wharwulif "So on is the endless quest for an answer...you will never get any that will satisfy you" of course it doesn't! It was never meant to! as Einstein said "The grand aim of all science is to cover the greatest number of empirical facts by logical deduction from the smallest number of hypotheses or axioms." we want to understand more and more not everything, most scientists don't want it to end.Because lack of knowledge doesn't scare them, it makes them move on.
@sinachiniforoosh I kinda get why they aim towards this,a fun occupation that tends to be highly cherished by others if bearing any fruits used later by others.
The more you find,the more your craving for more grows...until comes the time you can't satisfy yourself any longer.
@Wharwulif If the nature of your goal is "get it and be satisfied", well I must say I don't like such a goal for example, if you aim to have, say, a million dollars, what would you do after that?nothing.goals must be growing in nature."until comes the time you can't satisfy yourself any longer." such a point only comes when everything is fully discovered.such point never comes.
@sinachiniforoosh To be truthful,I have no actual goal...thanks to my imagination,I simply reached semi-nihilism at a point,and the only thing I was unable to imagine is Nothing.
If I speak about my current goal...Well,the goal itself is impossible within the limit of my mortal life,and anyway even with immortal life the chances of managing to do so are so low that it's ain't worth thinking about it...the Goal is Calm Order.
True,you can't discover everything-yet the quest is endless similarly
@Wharwulif I'm not afraid of my infinite nature of my goal.A great physics professor of mine once said "Sometimes your so focused on your goal you forget the way, while the way may sometimes be more beautiful than the goal." my goal is this way.I may never reach it, but in the way, I achieve a lot, and I can enjoy every step of it.
@sinachiniforoosh I understand your own fascination of the subject,and I respect that.
It's easier to be in a situation where the world is a mystery that you seek to solve I guess.
That is why it's hard to debate upon it when it reaches a state where you follow what you love,you cannot speak in a side-view upon the subject,or see the result.you indeed follow the path,I guessed my own imagination follows new paths regularly,therefor a path is not existing for me,and the goal itself gains meaning
@sinachiniforoosh Let me tell you what my imagination saw regarding to "how the world works"-IT DOES NOT MATTER.
Once you imagine and create worlds for yourself,and you start to plunder on their sub-functions,you are starting to get to a location where you simply say that you can go on forever with that,or maybe stop at 1 location you "feel" it's better to keep has "start",or ells you spend your entire life saying "...X makes Y do the W which affect N...".
@Wharwulif this is not how science works! geez did you even read my comment?! at every level there are different reasons, different causes.And each level describes a whole new CLASS of phenomenon.you just look at in a very, ridiculously simple way.We wouldn't understand the chemistry as we do now if we assumed that atoms were "balls", so you see? discovery pf smaller particles in different levels have a huge impact on our understanding!
Yes,I'm being simplistic to the matter,if you find that offensive,then I'm sorry-that is not my goal,my goal is to make you realize where you are headed...Thinking about different perspectives upon the universe is something you do for Fun and "advancement" of humanity eventually...I won't argue it's fun for you and others to theorize,or explore options...yet,eventually you are heading nowhere specific but personal amusement of science.
@Wharwulif I'm not offended, so keep on saying what you want.you think you are simplifying it, yet it is not itself simple enough for you to simplify it that way.The matter itself is not at all simple.It is not that science is leading to nowhere.Did you watch the video I mentioned? I think not.The aim of science is not to "discover it all" it is to "discover more".
@sinachiniforoosh Yes,I watched those 3 videos about the one who got a noble prize...I also commented on them I think.
I believe you should deeply plunder your wish for More,once you finish,you would realize why I call it aimless.
The moment you discover everything,it becomes boring,for you got nothing ells to discover-Yet,isn't that also an aimless goal? to discover more forever actually rather leaves you in a Limbo of information...Never ending,growing till infinity?Think on This question.
@Wharwulif I have thought about that, and that's the very reason I love science: it doesn't end.I'm not scared of it, in fact I love it.The very notion of going on to infinity.Because each level is different, each level is whole new world, much wilder and more beautiful than any human has ever imagined.
@sinachiniforoosh It's like a Detective,never an end to the crime scenes,to a new mystery to solve...and it's their job,sometimes their Life.
What you say is the part my imagination passed,each world is level is different,yet kinda the same...The pattern of the level is viewed perfectly within my imagination,and even more obviously in our world.I guess it has something to do with me being a semi-artist,I simply do not gain joy from new worlds,for it's common to me.
@Wharwulif even our wildest imaginations can't think of what is going to be next.(Did you at least come to the conclusion that science can be very interesting to the people other than you? did you understand why?)
@Wharwulif "I personally don't like mechanics-because the more complex they become,the more affect they do and more resources they need,and they become less fun to tinker with."..like rather playing with a stick and a stone then surfin through the internet?Why are you then here still?
@gastarbeiter1 Actually,with sticks and stones you can pretty much have endless options if you put your mind and imagination to it.
Also,comparing using stuff to being online are unconnected-I'm online to debate/talk/share/read,in other words-it's for Communal reasons,while sticks and stones are not something to engage in conversation with.
Therefor your claim has no relevance to it,for the aim has no connection.
I'll be with Stones/sticks to carve&shape out of them stuff for RP'ing with others.
@Wharwulif "Actually,with sticks and stones you can pretty much have endless options if you put your mind and imagination to it."...that was not the point.The point was, why are you sufing here while there are so many sticks and stones outside?
Oh but for communication you could also use easier and simpler things that don't use all the energy which is needed to let this all rund.Use a letter or a phone call or just talk to that person you want to talk to.
@gastarbeiter1 Lack of any other options at the moment is the reason,also because it kinda turned into what was once "the water-well",and the internet is the only way to be there,if you wish to share ideas and debate subjects in open and within a free location that does not suppress your thoughts or others.
The concept itself is sad,yet it has no connection to my reasons of using it,and I'll get to an alternative has soon has my current situation will pass-People escape to cyber-space allot.
@Wharwulif "The concept itself is sad,yet it has no connection to my reasons of using it,and I'll get to an alternative has soon has my current situation will pass-People escape to cyber-space allot."...hmm that would involve new ideas..right?Aren't you also imposed to that?New ideas are ALL meant to only benefit the selfishness of people, right?So you just want to fead your selfish needs as well?Don't you hate yourself?
My only wish and dream in life is to fully understand and be a part of the quantum physics. But I can't even understand equations, probably never will either. Today, I learned what root means in mathematical terms. I don't know the times table fully. I fail at every math test. How could I possibly ever reach my dream? I'm terrible at math but love science and physics. I'm 14, this is my passion. But I'm never gonna be able to reach my dream. And that makes me sad. I'm just too irresponsible.
@timewasteland : I love science a physics as well, and am not comfortable with figures as well.
But you are still young, and never say that you cant; please! Say you can, you'll try and that you still have a lot of time before you have other responsibilities that might make it a bit harder for you to do other things next to the daily dilemma and busyness of life. TRUST ME, if you give math 1 hr/day, now give it an xtra 30 mins or even more until you feel comfortable with numbers God willing.
@timewasteland Don't give up! You're far to young to start feeding your mind such rubbish about what it can do and who you can be. Focus your minds will and your time into whatever it is you want to learn and YOU WILL LEARN IT! Let NOTHING AND NO ONE cripple your will. Not even YOU!
@timewasteland There is almost nothing you cannot accomplish if you work hard. You can make your dreams happen! Work hard, it won't be easy, but you can do it and it will be well worth your time!
@timewasteland The only way to get good at math is to practice, practice, practice. Its like learning a language. You don't learn to read and write without practice. Look up the yaymath and khanacademy videos on youtube and watch the videos until you can solve the problems without following along. And even some mathematicians hate arithmetic (+,-,x,/ ) but love algebra and calculus. You may find some parts easier and you'll just have to work on the other harder parts over and over.
@timewasteland I failed a lot of Math tests in school too, and like you, I LOVE science, especially Physics! You need to stop thinking that you hate it! I love Maths too now =) Its awesome, except that they suck the awesome out of it =S Go check out Vi Hart's videos on Youtube, I'm sure you'll fall in love with Maths too! =) All the best!! =)
Even though Einstein try to unify all the forces but he didn't realized things will change whole lot before they become visible mass. Because of it his equation correct only partially E = M the other part it doesn't make any sense!!
can anyone shed some light on this theory. I'm 15 going into my PHD and iv just learnt that I'm going to be looking into 'string theory'. can anyone that is studying this please simplify it as it is my first day of knowing.
Coward scientists who only follow theories once they are not a threat to their prestige. If more people were as daring as those 2, I am certain we would know much more things.
How exactly were there anomalies? Did no one calculate it before the two dudes in the storm, or did they do something different? I don't think the video explained that...
few years ago two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to see if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said "Get the kids and get out of the house, we'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue". The "clown statue" was actually a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this on 10 videos tonight the clown will be in your bed at 3:00am with a chainsaw in his hand
we could have been flying spaceships(StarWars stuff) these days, if people had stopped watching porn all day,wanking in their pants...and started watching and putting their bird-brains into such amazing topics...!
@Uchchash You're so right man. Imagine if everyone in the world would stop caring about such useless and superficial things like money and fame and actually try to understand the amazing harmony that coexists between nature and math. A world full of scientists.... We could be a type I Civilization already.
And no, I'm not a nerd. But I think this is fucking fascinating.
@zenoparodie I may not have invented some extraordinary thing (YET!) that will revolutionize the whole world but have YOU done sth to ask this brother?At least I'm raising an awareness by telling ppl to invest their time on such amazing fields when they're free...^_^
@Uchchash that was, infact, my point, i said that to you, because you pointed that out, but i never said that people should stop jerking off so we can build spaceships faster, because, i , like sex and other "non intellectually deep" things, but you, like me, are of no use to the human race, but you said that we should concentrate on space enginnering, when you have done nothing about it, get my point?
I never complained about the fact that we are not capable of interstellar travel yet.
@zenoparodie u tell me brother...is masturbating good stuff?I know it feels really good when u jerk off,but it has a big negative impact on one's body...do u even know that there is a direct link between Men's hairfall an masturbation...wait,where on earth are we heading on to??From star wars to hairfall?? lolzzz! Ain't that funny? ;)
@zenoparodie i reckon u dont know much about biology,i'm afraid...when ur scrotum is at full capacity,natural masturbation occurs(forgot the scientific name) where u happen to see a dream,quite seducing,in the night,and the excess semen gets out NATURALLY...no need to manually do it bro,,,there's nothing called "old sperm",they can lay dormant for months!!
@Uchchash well, im afraid you dont have the fucking slightest idea what your talking about, masturbation is necessary, google it if you dont believe me
@zenoparodi ur words are sick like ur character...i tried to behave modestly with u,calling u even as a brother,yet u showed what kind of a dick head u really are...itz bcoz of candy ass bitches like u that the world is not at peace...get ur "fucking" ass out here and play with ur willey of urs u scumbag! :@
@Uchchash string theory describes nature and is as usable as all poetry is.
those guys should´ve gone to where they belong: "social" "sciences". not even
those guys who work on quantum loop gravity are that desperateyl highborwed
to hide that there´s nothing behind it. basically anybody can look up a function at wolfram or elsewhere and then pretend that it´s connected with a "theory" and then pretend that this ...
@Uchchash ...theory as well as the function are connected with all kinds of phenomena of nature - and that without ever proving (by trying to disprove oneself) anything. then one adds that it´s all so complicated that it cannot be formulated in laymens´ terms and that nature is "so complex". in the end they come up with "i have a "ph.d."" - with which they clearly show that they´re no scientists but mysticists.
@Uchchash ...and in the end it gets completely ridiculous where they confues the most general language with physics - not understanding that physics is to try to observe processes/objects (both the same - but don´t tell that - people get hysteric about it) from different angles and distances and places in relative as well as absolute space (in the end it´s not possible to ...
@Uchchash Yeah,it's more logical people would destroy their home planet so badly it will become a Vast Wasteland,and the only ones who survive are either mutation or those who locked themselves in Vaults(Fallout).
People are too busy trying to grow and to compete with each other,that whatever discoveries they find end up to be used in Conflicts.
If we would have has spaceships,assume that we would also have to search for a new home planet,for this one would be beyond-dead.
likely related , at least in a realm we are all familiar with, but just cant remember . : the string theory: would it a dress the interactions b/w sentient beings in dreaming? (PLS refer to the "inorganic beings" as descrived in carlos castaneda's books) the author was told by his mentor that the "energy " required to dream is borrowed from the inorganic being's realm. more interest should be expressd in at least exploring this exchange of energy. for what ever contributions it will offer.
Wait, I don't follow anymore. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.... Organism -> Organ -> Cell -> Molecule ->Atom -> Subatomic particle -> Quark -> String... So, are strings what quarks are made of?
it fucks me up how a scientist can say "10 D is dumb because...obviously...there aren't that many". It's like saying i don't beleive in germs because i can't see them with a naked eye. Fuck up.
@Rico8458 Why do Unicorns fly west on Sundays? Not all "why" question makes sense. Gravity exists because it split as a separate force during the big bang.
Ok, am I the only one who thinks that black guy's hair is f-ing awesome??? Holy sh*t. It's like someone ejaculated string theory s*men all over his scalp.
Besides acting like a baby who shoves everything in the mouth to test it...what exactly do they expect to gain with those theories?(besides further types of bombs,or fill some need for them to replace everything with machines,and ending up with mass-side affects and further need to shove their ass deeper in "exploration" in order to correct dumb).
I believe that "the quest for truth" ends in "Digging holes for resources",And eventually it's ignoring the fact that humans don't know what they do.
Wharwulif 1 week ago
@Wharwulif Oh, you are amazingly stupid.The very computer you're using now is the result of the works of people that made similar theories.
sinachiniforoosh 1 week ago
@sinachiniforoosh And the very fact that there are endless numbers of people in the world that the only way to communicate with them is Via-PC is simply sad.
From the Cave of prehistoric times to the Water-well of the ancient history,to the Forums of Rome/Greece to the Forums of the internet...the only thing that really changed is the Number of people within them,and the size of their expansion-the main idea is exactly the same,simply bigger and rather sadder.
It ends up in aimless expansion...
Wharwulif 1 week ago
@Wharwulif So go back to your caves, when the average life span was 20 years.
sinachiniforoosh 1 week ago
@sinachiniforoosh Being in a cave does not make your life suddenly shorter,there are enough Yogs and Hermits that live a farting long live with nothing much,it's a matter of Wisdom to be able to live long with little resources.
There are many ways to live,simply keep an optimal level of everything,and remaining in a balanced way that will actually give progression instead of dealing with expansion in more sophisticated ways,which cause further expansion that needs MORE way to handle it...lame.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif try that without modern medicine, see how it goes.Will you make it to 80? I doubt.the average life span has increased as a RESULT of modern medicine.Man, so many ignorant people out there...
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh And why you think that 80 is an age to inspire for? have you looked at the masses of old people who can't do anything? or the rest who nobody wish to employ?
People live TOO long man,and you end up with a population of old guys,and the only ones who take joy are those with cash to afford it.
Also,I don't care about living long,I'll gladly die before I reach 80.
Also-check medical waste,it's a hazard by itself.
You are ignorant to results by ignorant feeling of Success+pride.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif Oh, so people must die young for preventing over population? that is immoral and stupid.To prevent overpopulation, we must stop making babies, not stop using medicine to die young! We must promote the quality of our lives.Medical waste is not hazard in principle, it is the stupidity of people that makes it hazardous.(part 1)
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@Wharwulif 150,000 people die everyday, and that's about 2 thirds of them die of old age.you may want to die young, that's your preference, and no one objects it.But who are you and me to decide how much other people must live?!
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh The more people there are,the more people will die,it's obvious.
If people want so much to be a damm zombie,and cling onto life by doing ANYTHING they can to live 1 second longer,and that's the ugly part-They are willing to do WHATEVER it takes in to evade death a bit more.
Indeed it's not our decision what they do with their life,but it's kinda the fault of science to make this into an obsession for people,has they drive themselves to seek immortality by ANY means necessary.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif All I'm saying is that people MUST be given the chance to live longer.Many people have done a lot good to the world in their older ages, many contributions, and it is not necessarily being a zombie.
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh About that...People are given the chance,the question is-how they end up using it,and quiet frankly...humans are creatures with a vast diverse of options,yet they waste them away...And that actually makes me feel more sorry then angry for their entire way of using what they got.
If we go about "good" and "bad" you would reach a dead point of interpretation rather then complete truth.
Zombie=Being addicted/inslaved to being alive.yet the young carry the old within them in a way.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif I really don't understand it, all I say is that many of our achievements (maybe all of them?) are because of science, and, as somebody who studies science, I feel pissed off to hear "it's all waste of time" no it isn't. It makes us progress to live a better life.
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh I won't argue with that,but I'll argue that the waste of time considering what we see on the surface-it's an addiction to a fantastic tool.
The addiction comes in the way that people find themselves trying to make every usage possible from a specific discovery to a point where they become rather dependent upon it (--OIL--)and with each fix,they need something better/faster/stronger.
And like the Easter island-people end up remaining with Nothing at all due to abuse of resources
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif whether we are going to abuse resources, whether we are going to be strongly dependent on resources, all these are our choice.And it has nothing to do with spending time to find out more and more about the world (which is not a waste of time in my opinion, if you think it is I don't know how to change that view!).
And I can't help emphasizing that science is not just a tool.It's an amazing worldview.
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Yes,it is your choice...simply not an interesting one,and not very wise in the end...but hey,people love to write their achievements in a book to say "I done it Faster/better/harder/stronger",if you wish to reach a limit,say "yay",it's common.
Would be much more interesting to actually exist the primitive ways,and try to form something truly different,which will cause a change that echos,rather then bury in the sands.
Waste of time on the LONG run-Let's leave it there for best.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif no, that's not what scientist do science for, for writing 'their achievements in a book to say "I done it Faster/better/harder/stronger" ' no, they do it for the sake of science, for the joy. I don't know what makes you say that.Science has a LOT more than that.
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Hey,has long has no one is making any progress on guarding discoveries and knowledge from those seeking to misuse it for whatever agenda,Then that would be the result-simply a passing golden age,and wasted information that future generations will plunder about "how they did that!",yet remain oblivious.
What I say is more of a friendly warning to moderate discovery/usage rate and functions,or ells we end up in what I said-reaching a limit and finishing there.
I prethink results
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Also,in a matter of "amazing" is a view of the beholder.
I personally don't like mechanics-because the more complex they become,the more affect they do and more resources they need,and they become less fun to tinker with.
Science has Theorizing is actually harmless,and tend to end up in trying to fill the blanks of a very vast mechanical structure called "universe".
The harm is caused when someone is trying to USE it practically-which ends up rather badly in the end of it.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
@Wharwulif If you are not amazed by it, you don't know it enough.
sinachiniforoosh 6 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh It's not a matter of knowing,it's a matter of opinion on the subject.
Also with my damm imagination I lack the capability to be amazed by anything...because it all seems like I seen it before,and that actually sucks in a way.
My imagination kinda picked that everything within existence is exactly the same thing in a different form/shape/capabilities,yet still the same.
I prefer to plunder on the meaning of it all rather then how it works,And I kinda got my answer already.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif Well, that's what ancient "naturalist" philosophers did and they "came to their own conclusions" which were quite often wrong.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Ancient people were too busy trying to survive,fight other people,worship gods for the sake of Luck or to explain their suffering and overall...grow and expend(main occupation)In some situation,there was a stability that offered much Free-thinking.In those times,people focused on gaining either wisdom or insanity upon their mortal life.
I don't remember being an ancient "naturalist" philosopher,but what you mean by that?wisdom of native Americans?pagans?Zen masters?
Explain...
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif Ancient (Greek) naturalist philosophers were those who suggested the fire-water-earth-wind explanation for diversity in nature, and that is what held humanity back for ages.In order to know the world better, you can't just sit and think about it, you have to do experiments and "get your hands dirty.".
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh I don't find the philosophy within that,but if you think it deeper,it's kinda like stating the obvious forms of seen stuff-Liquid,solid,gass,and Life(If you think about it,fire is kinda like life-consume resources until it's unable to for some reason).
Stating/theorizing/imagining what the world is made out of does not state what it means,it simply gives a "background" if you might say.
Never knew that is a Naturalist philosopher...Yet I don't find why you brought it up,explain
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif your statements just shows your lack of understanding of physics.It is not the same thing changing.Our understanding of the universe has changed radically as a result of physicists' work.Quantum physics, for example, gives us a whole different picture than does classical physics.All I'm saying is you can't find things out by imagination, you need to study the thing scientifically. and here's why I said it: "My imagination kinda picked that everything within existence is exactly the...
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Your understanding ends up in "There is something smaller causing that something to work",and that's kinda everything you end up finding-think about that.
Tell me that "something makes something work" is not the common in every scientific discovery?because if there is a discovery that does not go in THAT direction,then Show.
Imagination simply keeps your mind open,it's when you start looking at the entire thing together in every perspective that makes you realize the Patterns.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif You are just misunderstanding this very badly.No, the fundamental proposition in science is not "There is something smaller causing that something to work", it is that "natural world tends to behave in similar ways at different times, now what is the way nature tends to behave?" of course putting it the way you did makes it seem ridiculous, but every scientific discovery is associated with new ways of thinking, new horizons, and a whole lot of questions being answered.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Yes,what I say DOES make it seem ridiculous and highly simplistic,but you got to admit that's where it goes...Science simplify things for people,that's the point,I simply simplified the eventual end of science,it's application is important for the main goals of humanity...yet,the goals themselves needs to evolve I believe.
New ways of thinking is "maybe the world is based on X rather then Y",yet the "based of" or "it's a result of" or "functions upon" are kinda the same thing.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif "I simply simplified the eventual end of science" well you did it in a horribly wrong way, science is all about progress, and getting better and better.each level is associated with more interesting questions, more interesting knowledge.Doing science is like excavating into the ground, it may never end, but it is always great to discover new passages in there.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh You should listen to the very notion of "growth" within your words...That is exactly the thing I noticed about too much stuff within this universe,expansion.
You should stare deeply for your desire for more,it's not an addiction-it's the very core of many many things eventually...I hope that I'm not one of them.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif A good goal is one that you can never reach.You can be satisfied with a simple little thing, and you can want more and more, in cases like science, it is not like an unhealthy addiction, it is a great process with many amazing outcomes.It doesn't hurt people.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh The harm/help of science is a matter of view-point.
Have you ever played a game that never ends?one that keeps offering you stronger monsters to fight,bigger quest to take part in...massive options that forever grows,story-lines that keeps getting deeper and deeper?
What happens when you compare each level to the next?You say"this one is bigger/better/faster/so on...",yet if you stare at the basic idea...it kinda remains the same,doesn't it?you redo the grown goal until you die
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif the difference here is that in science, each level is radically different, and the basic idea is changing radically in every level.(see also, the other comment.)
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh How about you tell me the finest example of a radical change you have in mind,with some detail that show the radical side,we will see if what I say matched the concept.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif Okay, one good example is when the quantum physics came.Before that, physicist thought that every matter, from tiny atoms to big stars, are governed by the laws of physics, every movement is pre-determined by those laws, we have no choice, and the whole universe is like a clock, set on to work forever.Some said that if there was a very fast calculating machine, it could tell what are we going to do all the way to the infinity.Quantum physics in contrast, gave whole new ideas about...
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh It's funny,but I always see laws has illusion,for there is no order within chaos,only patterns,and the only order is only within The Nothing.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif well, that's what you see, it isn't necessarily true.Laws in science have a different meaning.They are propositions made by us to describe how nature works.But if we see that some phenomenon don't "obey" the laws, it doesn't mean that they are criminals of course, it means the "laws" were not correct.Yet it is not complete chaos there is order in the way the nature tends to behave, as well as chaos.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Laws are but patterns formed by reactions of endless things to each other.
Chaos itself Has a specific order-which comes to the point that everything interacts in a way with another thing,and for some reason-stuff seems to expand by energy or indirect affect and retract either by being depleted from energy or indirect affect of some sort rather much...or the smaller scale it might seem differently,yet that's the eventual effect.
Order cannot be true in a world of constantAction
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif It's called self-assembly.But the thing is we don't fully understand the patterns yet, and the goal of science is to find out more about them.remember that your whole picture ("chaos") may not be right.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh The very notion we exist(Existence by itself is something we get by our senses,therefor proving we even exist is another question by itself =P) is a rather random event,you can state it's rather...Chaotic-patterns,unless something has set something in certain specific rule motion(lets not assume god now,for it REALLY does NOT matter).
Again,if you wish to understand what is Order-simply think about the concept of Nothing,then you would realize to where and what I compare things
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif I do have an understanding of what order is.but simply thinking about the order caused by random and chaotic behavior of the nature does not tell you anything whatsoever about the universe, as I said, n order to understand more, you must get your hands dirty and instead of pure thinking, you must get to "ask nature herself" about how she behaves, by doing science.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Looking at nature by myself,and also at my own life...Randomness is highly notable =P.I'll agree that the only order within existence is formed by small fabrics of Law that tend to reach locations where they collapse under the affects of something ells.
Overall,indeed it's an assumption that everything is Complete chaos,yet if you assume there is order-then you need to know that order is something that cannot be broken,like a Core.
The core has I see it,is Chaos-we CAN dig it.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif ... how nature works, it implied that subatomic particles and even atoms and some molecules behave very differently than what we're used to.they are everywhere (literally) at a given time, they don't have a defined position or velocity. It implied that our world may work in a probabilistic way, everything is not pre-determined, and we are not mere puppets.It said that there are fundamental limits for our understanding of the subatomic world.it introduced wave-particle duality, and...
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh I kinda assumed the only thing that lacks within everything-is complete nothing...my imagination covered that subject ENOUGH.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif your statement seems meaningless to me, by the way I gotta go eat something, bye!
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@Wharwulif it revolutionized the way we look at the world in that way (you can learn a lot more about it, it's not just that, it introduced things that seemed insane to previous physicists, like negative kinetic energy, it is still insane isn't it?) meanwhile, theories like big bang and relativity also revolutionized our worldview but in different ways.Before that, we thought time is like an arrow that has always existed (what does always mean in this sentence by the way?!)but then we...
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh I find time to be a simple illusion of calculating the distance between events rather then something worth thinking about.
Seems like it fits the "X makes Y work",has you discover that it's not "rules" but "random particles/energies/thingies" that cause things to reach their situation...Overall,it follows the Bigger idea-for...more options rather then earlier limitations,yet...It doesn't change anything,the only law the world is confined to-is everything reactions to itself.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif Well what you say, that time is an illusion, is just your opinion, which i don't see what it's based upon.there is possibility that you're right, but i don't take views about things that simply.I'd rather look for the answers, not make them up with my imagination.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh The reason I say it's an illusion is because it does not "pass",and look back to the time it was invented-it's simply a measuring tool of events.
In a object with no energy or affect,there won't be any time-for it won't move,therefor there won't be any action,if you take 2 object alone with affect to each other-they will react one way or another to each other,this "action" caused makes an event of movement,which is measured by Time.Stronger the reaction-Faster the "event" is.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif what you say implies that time doesn't pass for the things that don't change, yet it does.Time does pass.time is a real thing, it is the measure of what you call "distance" between events, well that "distance" is time.and there is no such strict thing as "event" since changes happen in a continuous way.Or at least there is not enough reason to think there is.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh You should think about comparing time that passes inside an ice-cube to time passing upon the surface of the Sun.what gives you the illusion of time is that you stand outside both of them,looking at your watch where the time is determined by a specific measure you decide(second,minute,so on..)
If you place a MEGA-watch(survive everything) inside an ice cube,or on the surface of the sun,you might see the difference(or just use Speed extreme opposites of items for that matter).
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif I don't think so, time passes everywhere, at a rate independent of how the "place" changes, but dependent on other factors like the amount of mass around it (that's what science says, and that's why i say that pure thinking is not enough)
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh It's not the "location",but the affect of stuff upon it,ice is location will less affect,sun is a location with Mass-affect,if we go further,place something within nothing,and it will either collapse to itself by self-affect,and then expand due to the pressure build up inside...Or it could just collapse in the emptiness and what happens depends on the parts reaction to each other.
Yet,place something in complete "0" energy and place something in "Endless" energy,you will see it
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Time is a measuring tool exactly like Length and weight and Measure-energy-thingy,it depends upon numbers YOU set,the "action" is indeed constant,for there is always reaction between things,that is why you can measure time forever,exactly like length if you start measuring either longer,or looking deeper into the length you are measuring.same with weight-measure and energy-measurement.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif understood that time itself has a beginning, it can run "slow" or "fast" it can stop, and it is closely related to velocity.So this is how revolutionary it changes our worldview.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Slow and fast are determined by the affects upon the object/material being affected by energy/other material.
Time itself began most likely with whatever first reaction happened between materials that caused them to move,again...Time is just a measuring tool between events caused by the "action",people give TOO much credit for it.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif get it? your imagination. Following your imagination doesn't lead you to answers unless you have a proper understanding of how the universe works, which is given by science.I gave an example for why it doesn't work, namely ancient philosophers suggestions about the natural world.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Imagination is a vast tool,you can do everything you want with it,and mind has no restrictions what so ever.
Again,I don't care HOW it works,because HOW=X,the X does not matter unless you seek to use it for some purpose of your own.
I don't find any wisdom in the example you showed,yet it is logical on basic level of view,yes-it's made out of SMALLER parts,and SMALLER energies and SMALLER reactions and SO ON,don't blame them for not having the tools to see Deeper then that.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif Well that point of view they had, and which you are sharing with them solved absolutely nothing about the problems and questions we all have.There is not necessarily a "SO ON" you just make it seem ridiculous.whether there is a "SO ON" is still a question, and every time they discovered there might be another "SO ON" it was for a whole different reason than before.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh So on is the endless quest for an answer...you will never get any that will satisfy you.
The questions become obsessions,the primal question of "why we are alive" is simply because of random chance that you got into a body that gave you the option to think about that.
The reason you need to ask is because humans developed the capability to utilize their surrounding to the fullest,you ask out of need to adapt further,"Evolve"in a manner of way,yet remain with the same goal.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif "So on is the endless quest for an answer...you will never get any that will satisfy you" of course it doesn't! It was never meant to! as Einstein said "The grand aim of all science is to cover the greatest number of empirical facts by logical deduction from the smallest number of hypotheses or axioms." we want to understand more and more not everything, most scientists don't want it to end.Because lack of knowledge doesn't scare them, it makes them move on.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh I kinda get why they aim towards this,a fun occupation that tends to be highly cherished by others if bearing any fruits used later by others.
The more you find,the more your craving for more grows...until comes the time you can't satisfy yourself any longer.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif If the nature of your goal is "get it and be satisfied", well I must say I don't like such a goal for example, if you aim to have, say, a million dollars, what would you do after that?nothing.goals must be growing in nature."until comes the time you can't satisfy yourself any longer." such a point only comes when everything is fully discovered.such point never comes.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh To be truthful,I have no actual goal...thanks to my imagination,I simply reached semi-nihilism at a point,and the only thing I was unable to imagine is Nothing.
If I speak about my current goal...Well,the goal itself is impossible within the limit of my mortal life,and anyway even with immortal life the chances of managing to do so are so low that it's ain't worth thinking about it...the Goal is Calm Order.
True,you can't discover everything-yet the quest is endless similarly
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif I'm not afraid of my infinite nature of my goal.A great physics professor of mine once said "Sometimes your so focused on your goal you forget the way, while the way may sometimes be more beautiful than the goal." my goal is this way.I may never reach it, but in the way, I achieve a lot, and I can enjoy every step of it.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh I understand your own fascination of the subject,and I respect that.
It's easier to be in a situation where the world is a mystery that you seek to solve I guess.
That is why it's hard to debate upon it when it reaches a state where you follow what you love,you cannot speak in a side-view upon the subject,or see the result.you indeed follow the path,I guessed my own imagination follows new paths regularly,therefor a path is not existing for me,and the goal itself gains meaning
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Let me tell you what my imagination saw regarding to "how the world works"-IT DOES NOT MATTER.
Once you imagine and create worlds for yourself,and you start to plunder on their sub-functions,you are starting to get to a location where you simply say that you can go on forever with that,or maybe stop at 1 location you "feel" it's better to keep has "start",or ells you spend your entire life saying "...X makes Y do the W which affect N...".
So,stop-and look upon the result of all
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif this is not how science works! geez did you even read my comment?! at every level there are different reasons, different causes.And each level describes a whole new CLASS of phenomenon.you just look at in a very, ridiculously simple way.We wouldn't understand the chemistry as we do now if we assumed that atoms were "balls", so you see? discovery pf smaller particles in different levels have a huge impact on our understanding!
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Are you trying to evade what I said?
Yes,I'm being simplistic to the matter,if you find that offensive,then I'm sorry-that is not my goal,my goal is to make you realize where you are headed...Thinking about different perspectives upon the universe is something you do for Fun and "advancement" of humanity eventually...I won't argue it's fun for you and others to theorize,or explore options...yet,eventually you are heading nowhere specific but personal amusement of science.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif I'm not offended, so keep on saying what you want.you think you are simplifying it, yet it is not itself simple enough for you to simplify it that way.The matter itself is not at all simple.It is not that science is leading to nowhere.Did you watch the video I mentioned? I think not.The aim of science is not to "discover it all" it is to "discover more".
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh Yes,I watched those 3 videos about the one who got a noble prize...I also commented on them I think.
I believe you should deeply plunder your wish for More,once you finish,you would realize why I call it aimless.
The moment you discover everything,it becomes boring,for you got nothing ells to discover-Yet,isn't that also an aimless goal? to discover more forever actually rather leaves you in a Limbo of information...Never ending,growing till infinity?Think on This question.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif I have thought about that, and that's the very reason I love science: it doesn't end.I'm not scared of it, in fact I love it.The very notion of going on to infinity.Because each level is different, each level is whole new world, much wilder and more beautiful than any human has ever imagined.
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@sinachiniforoosh It's like a Detective,never an end to the crime scenes,to a new mystery to solve...and it's their job,sometimes their Life.
What you say is the part my imagination passed,each world is level is different,yet kinda the same...The pattern of the level is viewed perfectly within my imagination,and even more obviously in our world.I guess it has something to do with me being a semi-artist,I simply do not gain joy from new worlds,for it's common to me.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
@Wharwulif even our wildest imaginations can't think of what is going to be next.(Did you at least come to the conclusion that science can be very interesting to the people other than you? did you understand why?)
sinachiniforoosh 5 days ago
@Wharwulif "I personally don't like mechanics-because the more complex they become,the more affect they do and more resources they need,and they become less fun to tinker with."..like rather playing with a stick and a stone then surfin through the internet?Why are you then here still?
gastarbeiter1 6 days ago
@gastarbeiter1 Actually,with sticks and stones you can pretty much have endless options if you put your mind and imagination to it.
Also,comparing using stuff to being online are unconnected-I'm online to debate/talk/share/read,in other words-it's for Communal reasons,while sticks and stones are not something to engage in conversation with.
Therefor your claim has no relevance to it,for the aim has no connection.
I'll be with Stones/sticks to carve&shape out of them stuff for RP'ing with others.
Wharwulif 5 days ago
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@Wharwulif "Actually,with sticks and stones you can pretty much have endless options if you put your mind and imagination to it."...that was not the point.The point was, why are you sufing here while there are so many sticks and stones outside?
Oh but for communication you could also use easier and simpler things that don't use all the energy which is needed to let this all rund.Use a letter or a phone call or just talk to that person you want to talk to.
gastarbeiter1 5 days ago
@Wharwulif "in the world that the only way to communicate with them is Via-PC is simply sad."..if so sad..why do you do it?
gastarbeiter1 6 days ago
@gastarbeiter1 Lack of any other options at the moment is the reason,also because it kinda turned into what was once "the water-well",and the internet is the only way to be there,if you wish to share ideas and debate subjects in open and within a free location that does not suppress your thoughts or others.
The concept itself is sad,yet it has no connection to my reasons of using it,and I'll get to an alternative has soon has my current situation will pass-People escape to cyber-space allot.
Wharwulif 6 days ago
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@Wharwulif "The concept itself is sad,yet it has no connection to my reasons of using it,and I'll get to an alternative has soon has my current situation will pass-People escape to cyber-space allot."...hmm that would involve new ideas..right?Aren't you also imposed to that?New ideas are ALL meant to only benefit the selfishness of people, right?So you just want to fead your selfish needs as well?Don't you hate yourself?
gastarbeiter1 6 days ago
Can anyone tell me the actual name of this documentary?
GeetarAdam 1 week ago
which forces are the "S" and "W" ?
DallasGreen123 3 months ago
@DallasGreen123 Strong and weak force, the force that keeps atoms together and the force that allows decay
redrum41987 2 months ago
@DallasGreen123 Strong and weak nuclear forces.
sinachiniforoosh 1 week ago
My only wish and dream in life is to fully understand and be a part of the quantum physics. But I can't even understand equations, probably never will either. Today, I learned what root means in mathematical terms. I don't know the times table fully. I fail at every math test. How could I possibly ever reach my dream? I'm terrible at math but love science and physics. I'm 14, this is my passion. But I'm never gonna be able to reach my dream. And that makes me sad. I'm just too irresponsible.
timewasteland 3 months ago
@timewasteland : I love science a physics as well, and am not comfortable with figures as well.
But you are still young, and never say that you cant; please! Say you can, you'll try and that you still have a lot of time before you have other responsibilities that might make it a bit harder for you to do other things next to the daily dilemma and busyness of life. TRUST ME, if you give math 1 hr/day, now give it an xtra 30 mins or even more until you feel comfortable with numbers God willing.
hmabboud 3 months ago
@timewasteland Don't give up! You're far to young to start feeding your mind such rubbish about what it can do and who you can be. Focus your minds will and your time into whatever it is you want to learn and YOU WILL LEARN IT! Let NOTHING AND NO ONE cripple your will. Not even YOU!
bglr100 3 months ago 3
@timewasteland There is almost nothing you cannot accomplish if you work hard. You can make your dreams happen! Work hard, it won't be easy, but you can do it and it will be well worth your time!
theunitire 2 months ago
@timewasteland The only way to get good at math is to practice, practice, practice. Its like learning a language. You don't learn to read and write without practice. Look up the yaymath and khanacademy videos on youtube and watch the videos until you can solve the problems without following along. And even some mathematicians hate arithmetic (+,-,x,/ ) but love algebra and calculus. You may find some parts easier and you'll just have to work on the other harder parts over and over.
redrum41987 2 months ago
@timewasteland I failed a lot of Math tests in school too, and like you, I LOVE science, especially Physics! You need to stop thinking that you hate it! I love Maths too now =) Its awesome, except that they suck the awesome out of it =S Go check out Vi Hart's videos on Youtube, I'm sure you'll fall in love with Maths too! =) All the best!! =)
bazzingalore 1 month ago 5
Even though Einstein try to unify all the forces but he didn't realized things will change whole lot before they become visible mass. Because of it his equation correct only partially E = M the other part it doesn't make any sense!!
Levon9404 3 months ago
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can anyone shed some light on this theory. I'm 15 going into my PHD and iv just learnt that I'm going to be looking into 'string theory'. can anyone that is studying this please simplify it as it is my first day of knowing.
truevengeance2801 3 months ago
holy shit. just realized that the narrator is Brian Greene.
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Coward scientists who only follow theories once they are not a threat to their prestige. If more people were as daring as those 2, I am certain we would know much more things.
chinguidinsky 3 months ago
How exactly were there anomalies? Did no one calculate it before the two dudes in the storm, or did they do something different? I don't think the video explained that...
Nervousification 4 months ago
Nothing has ever interested me in my life more.
QuantumCraziness 4 months ago
im only eleven and im intrested in this. i guess imma a nerd
DaAzn916 4 months ago
Chuck Norris solved the Unified Theory. The answer was simple. All matter abides by the laws of Chuck Norris.
p7byrd 5 months ago
(496) 4 + 9 + 6 = 19. The entire Quran is multiplication of 19.
micheal74rich 5 months ago
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few years ago two parents went out for dinner. A few hours later, the babysitter was calling to see if she could cover up the clown statue in the kids' room, the father said "Get the kids and get out of the house, we'll call the police, we don't have a clown statue". The "clown statue" was actually a killer that escaped from jail. If you don't post this on 10 videos tonight the clown will be in your bed at 3:00am with a chainsaw in his hand
XxxLingglinggxxx 5 months ago
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arsenalfooty4 5 months ago
Black dude looks like Morgan Freemans son :)
myamotomusashi66 6 months ago 2
How many people are still working on this?
omnileader 7 months ago
we could have been flying spaceships(StarWars stuff) these days, if people had stopped watching porn all day,wanking in their pants...and started watching and putting their bird-brains into such amazing topics...!
Uchchash 7 months ago 33
@Uchchash You're so right man. Imagine if everyone in the world would stop caring about such useless and superficial things like money and fame and actually try to understand the amazing harmony that coexists between nature and math. A world full of scientists.... We could be a type I Civilization already.
And no, I'm not a nerd. But I think this is fucking fascinating.
Scheissemann 5 months ago
@Uchchash That sounds strangely familiar to an episode of "The Big Bang Theory."
Sheldon: "If Einstein hadn't been such a horndog, we would have time machines by now."
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@Uchchash Star Wars is pure fantasy.
FuckinLittleDreamer 3 months ago
@Uchchash well then, what amazingly important contribution have YOU made to mankind to say this?
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@zenoparodie I may not have invented some extraordinary thing (YET!) that will revolutionize the whole world but have YOU done sth to ask this brother?At least I'm raising an awareness by telling ppl to invest their time on such amazing fields when they're free...^_^
Uchchash 3 months ago
@Uchchash that was, infact, my point, i said that to you, because you pointed that out, but i never said that people should stop jerking off so we can build spaceships faster, because, i , like sex and other "non intellectually deep" things, but you, like me, are of no use to the human race, but you said that we should concentrate on space enginnering, when you have done nothing about it, get my point?
I never complained about the fact that we are not capable of interstellar travel yet.
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@zenoparodie u tell me brother...is masturbating good stuff?I know it feels really good when u jerk off,but it has a big negative impact on one's body...do u even know that there is a direct link between Men's hairfall an masturbation...wait,where on earth are we heading on to??From star wars to hairfall?? lolzzz! Ain't that funny? ;)
Uchchash 3 months ago
@Uchchash uhm... did you know you are wrong?
masturbating expells old sperm to replace it with new, it is actually essential
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@zenoparodie i reckon u dont know much about biology,i'm afraid...when ur scrotum is at full capacity,natural masturbation occurs(forgot the scientific name) where u happen to see a dream,quite seducing,in the night,and the excess semen gets out NATURALLY...no need to manually do it bro,,,there's nothing called "old sperm",they can lay dormant for months!!
Uchchash 3 months ago
@Uchchash well, im afraid you dont have the fucking slightest idea what your talking about, masturbation is necessary, google it if you dont believe me
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@zenoparodi ur words are sick like ur character...i tried to behave modestly with u,calling u even as a brother,yet u showed what kind of a dick head u really are...itz bcoz of candy ass bitches like u that the world is not at peace...get ur "fucking" ass out here and play with ur willey of urs u scumbag! :@
Uchchash 3 months ago
@Uchchash wow u are so pissed becuase ur arguement is invalid?
go suck some cock ;) SUCKER!!! LOLOLOLOO
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@zenoparodie i aint a gay like u moron!
Uchchash 3 months ago
@Uchchash yes you are gay, UNlike me though
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@zenoparodie I thought u were gay...now I see ur also a copy cat...get ur stanky ass out' here bitch!
Uchchash 3 months ago
@Uchchash lol on a string theory video what has this commenting got to xD
zenoparodie 3 months ago
@Uchchash Ha Ha, lol
hmabboud 3 months ago
@Uchchash or if all christians stopped blaming god for everything and actually used a scientific approach to the world
ButsersBarrie 3 months ago in playlist Teorija struna i M teorija
@Uchchash if it werent for sex you'd be well, a rock.
Fixxitube 1 month ago
@Fixxitube i wasnt telling about sex u dick,it was about masturbation...
Uchchash 1 month ago
@Uchchash string theory describes nature and is as usable as all poetry is.
those guys should´ve gone to where they belong: "social" "sciences". not even
those guys who work on quantum loop gravity are that desperateyl highborwed
to hide that there´s nothing behind it. basically anybody can look up a function at wolfram or elsewhere and then pretend that it´s connected with a "theory" and then pretend that this ...
partonace 1 week ago
@Uchchash ...theory as well as the function are connected with all kinds of phenomena of nature - and that without ever proving (by trying to disprove oneself) anything. then one adds that it´s all so complicated that it cannot be formulated in laymens´ terms and that nature is "so complex". in the end they come up with "i have a "ph.d."" - with which they clearly show that they´re no scientists but mysticists.
partonace 1 week ago
@Uchchash ...and in the end it gets completely ridiculous where they confues the most general language with physics - not understanding that physics is to try to observe processes/objects (both the same - but don´t tell that - people get hysteric about it) from different angles and distances and places in relative as well as absolute space (in the end it´s not possible to ...
partonace 1 week ago
@Uchchash ...completely cancel out absoluteness of relative space as well as the other way around) - as well as absolute and relative time.
partonace 1 week ago
@Uchchash Yeah,it's more logical people would destroy their home planet so badly it will become a Vast Wasteland,and the only ones who survive are either mutation or those who locked themselves in Vaults(Fallout).
People are too busy trying to grow and to compete with each other,that whatever discoveries they find end up to be used in Conflicts.
If we would have has spaceships,assume that we would also have to search for a new home planet,for this one would be beyond-dead.
Wharwulif 1 week ago
@Uchchash that´s not the whole truth lol
smackmabitchup 1 week ago
m=m(subzero) 1/sqrt(1-v sqd/c sqd). If accelerated beyond c, then sqrt(-1)=i, Parity exists in real and imagined universe
Nnfefe 8 months ago
496
wiikriss 8 months ago
likely related , at least in a realm we are all familiar with, but just cant remember . : the string theory: would it a dress the interactions b/w sentient beings in dreaming? (PLS refer to the "inorganic beings" as descrived in carlos castaneda's books) the author was told by his mentor that the "energy " required to dream is borrowed from the inorganic being's realm. more interest should be expressd in at least exploring this exchange of energy. for what ever contributions it will offer.
justtrolin 9 months ago
tachyon can travel faster than light, ain't this going to collapse the theory of relativity
youssef0eddoumali 9 months ago
@youssef0eddoumali No since:
a) The theory of relativity states that no body with finite mass can be accelerated beyond light speed. Nothing is known about super-lightspeeds.
and
b) Taychons exist - so far - only in people's heads.
TomFynn 9 months ago
@youssef0eddoumali It's not that simple, I'm not a physicist, but I know that sometimes...It's simply not that simple.
sinachiniforoosh 1 week ago
:25 "It's not taken seriously by much of the scientific community." Perhaps if your hair didn't form ear muffs, people would listen to you?
opinionatedcyborg 9 months ago
I feel like crying own. I love scientist!
KEEETARO 9 months ago
5:26 Those are some pretty complex equations...
Pierce188 10 months ago
@Pierce188 maaaaan
youssef0eddoumali 9 months ago
@boazandjiacinth What do you get when you multiply seven and nine
Maldar345 10 months ago
did anyone complete go blank when you seen the guys afro at 29 seconds?
alaphonse 11 months ago
I think there is something smaller than a quarqe but bigger, much bigger then a string.
TheNaz01 11 months ago
Wait, I don't follow anymore. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.... Organism -> Organ -> Cell -> Molecule ->Atom -> Subatomic particle -> Quark -> String... So, are strings what quarks are made of?
xCofa92x 11 months ago
@xCofa92x You are asking a question with no answer yet, it's like asking when did time began, and how (probably before the big bang imo..)
iPlayWithPhysics 11 months ago
@xCofa92x
Actually, according to the Standard Model of physics, quarks, electrons, muons, tau particles and neutrinos are all fundamental particles.
Diemedes 11 months ago
very nice series, I like it - so clearly presented, full of important faces, thanks Brian
leopodstanicky 11 months ago
green shorts XDD
DANTE908780 11 months ago
is it just me or are the animations corny?
dunlrock 1 year ago
@dunlrock I don't think getting extra realistic CGI is part of any documentary's priority.
Taihofai 11 months ago
String Size analogy. Atom:Universe; String: human
awesomelightning 1 year ago
it fucks me up how a scientist can say "10 D is dumb because...obviously...there aren't that many". It's like saying i don't beleive in germs because i can't see them with a naked eye. Fuck up.
thehornypuppy 1 year ago
@thehornypuppy its not quite the same..
it's like someone telling you that humans can fly.
because everything you know and have experienced says you can't fly, you obviously are not going to believe.
TurKdiRty 11 months ago
the black guy looks like morgan freeman.
spwner 1 year ago
good explanation. thanks mate.
Rico8458 1 year ago
how and why is Gravity created?
Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 Why do Unicorns fly west on Sundays? Not all "why" question makes sense. Gravity exists because it split as a separate force during the big bang.
Boxrag 1 year ago
@Boxrag I like our answer,u answered a question with a question,instead of a answer lol.just like a scientist good job!
wisdomlifeknowledge 1 year ago
I think every thing is built of electro-magnetic fibration (waves)
JanMelet 1 year ago
man if only einstein was alive today! with all of todays technology einstein woulda answered all these dilemmas :O
poyanator 1 year ago
Ok, am I the only one who thinks that black guy's hair is f-ing awesome??? Holy sh*t. It's like someone ejaculated string theory s*men all over his scalp.
deepinmyass 1 year ago
watching this video drives me crazy.lols..
1bugriz1 1 year ago
@1bugriz1
What are you? Gay?
deepinmyass 1 year ago
@deepinmyass i'll punch you in your face
1bugriz1 1 year ago
I didn't know brian greene narrated this
awesome
hkpopfan4lif3 1 year ago
@hkpopfan4lif3
Wow. You are so smart and sophisticated.
deepinmyass 1 year ago
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@deepinmyass
and by your username, I assume you are, too
hkpopfan4lif3 1 year ago
Any anomaly is abolished when 0 is applied to all figures.
try it for yourself, there is a common number and it's 0
HunnyXCakeforever 1 year ago