prework out is soooo dumb - 2010 hype bs.........bcaa helps not allowing your muscle to breakdown into bcaa which causes you to lose muscle mass. if you both think your stoping anti-canabolic then tell me how are you calculating the rate of breakdown after a workout with addition to your weight? =D
@twinmuscleworkout do you guys think BCAA products would help someone who is living a vegan lifestyle?? who is unable to eat dairy or meat. trying to give a friend some advice and most protein powders contain some sort of egg or dairy in it. thanks
i think that if you believe they work then youre gonna see improvement but not neccesarily because of the bcaa's but mostly because youre convinced that since you took them youre gonna be able to do more reps and have more power and that thought arleady enables you to do more reps and have more power
BCAAs are pre digested as u said so if u take it after a workout its absorbed right away. the ones in protein shakes are peptide bond so they need to be broken down. so u need BCAAs
I have started using xtend 2 months ago and amazing results while cutting alot of calories from my diet and loosing weight. I have been able to maintain most of my strength on my lifts. I think u don't need bcaa supplementation if you are bulking but while on a cut and ur low on calories I think bcaa are amazing.
well i have to kinda agree on that , u better spend ur money on a protein stuff or amino acids that have them all essencial and non essencial, super amoni 4800 dor example though i prefer protein supplements
Correction. Non essential are what your body can create without food. My mistake. But google it. Web MD it. I dont' need to explain it. Educate yourself. Thank you.
You can never get all of your Amino acids from your foods. There are essential and non essential amino acids. Non essential are the acids that your body can breakdown from food. But, you can never get enough aminos from food alone to "efficiently" build muscle. Essential are what your body needs from outside sources. "BCAA" are an easy way to supplement these. I will not listen to som gangster rhetoric and believe what these gentlmen say when they cannot even pronounce what the subject is.
I do not mean to put your intelligence down by any means lalem. But, I am a certified nutritionist as well as a certified personal trainer. Of course companies do not want the public to know about the inner working of the body. They want people like these gentlemen to confuse you and lead you in the wrong direction. As you were saying regarding "Complete", no, i'm afraid you are wrong. There is no food known to man that is complete.
BCAA's are not a waste of money. These guys are idiots and give completely inaccurate advice. Listen to them if you will. Educate yourself on how your body works during protein Synthesis. Otherwise it's like the blind leading the blind. Without BCAA's your body cannot build protein "Efficiently". BCAA's also help to maintain a consistent anabolic state. Will you feel the results per say like a supplement such as "Jack3d?" No. but, you are a fool to think that BCAA's are not a necessity.
@JaykeMEllis lol thats the point. these guys are right on the money. amino acids are what all proteins are made of. all meat, poultry, egg, soy, and dairy proteins are called "complete" because they have all the amino acids. you dont need to take bcaa's unless you are a vegan bodybuilder with a soy allergy. you will get bcaa's from your protein sources. and jack3d is a pre-workout stimulant! supplement companies want your money they're not trying to educate you on protein synthesis.
as you know, BCAAs are added into many protein supps. But did you know that all proteins contain single-chain amino acids, which the body can make into branch chain amino acids if need be?
You may hear the term "Essential" amino acids, which means that the body cannot produce them on it's own. You need to ingest proteins from your diet in order for you body to make them. DOESN'T HAVE TO COME FROM A BCAA SUPPLEMENT (that's just another little white lie the supplement companies tell you)
branch chained "AMINIEO" acids are useful for preventing muscle loss during dieting.
when you are dieting your body doesnt have enough carbs to burn during training so it will convert muscle tissue to glucose and burn it. when u have bcaas in ur blood muscle will be spared.
Well, actually, BCAAs aren't exactly for building muscle. They are to prevent muscle catabolism if you're doing fasted training, or people who practice fasting and don't get enough protein during long fasts.
first of all, they're not even fitness professionals. second, how can you trust guys who can't even say amino acids right. third, what level of education do they have regarding fitness- degree in nutrition, sports medicine, etc. but they can think whatever the fuck they wanna think. besides, most protein supplements contain BCAAs now so whatever.
EAA or BCAA supplements are not used to satisfy our daily needs. They will help to, before a workout (preferably) to significantly stimulate protein synthesis. Why these will stimulate the synthesis more strongly than, for example, whey protein are because they are in free form (not bound to protein) and is therefore no need for breakdown, so it goes directly into the blood. If you use it during a workout it works in an anti-catabolic way.
- The acute muscle building "state" after a workout is controlled by amino acids, thats why amino acids (free form) after a workout is, a big advantage. So around the workout is recommended (preferably before and after) are recommended bcaa and eaa. During the day there is a lot better and more satisfying, alternatives with slow breakdown.
Hmm, I disagree. L-Glutamine definitely works for me. Eliminates DOMS W A Y quicker. Cheap as chips too, so I see no reason not to get it. I spend 6 dollars and it lasts me about 3 months.
Correct, it's all in the food as stated. But, in a cutting phase, BCAA's can help to simply retain muscle while under calorie restriction. They have their place, if used properly. To mindlessly add them to a regimen without regard to their value as a supplement in terms overall diet and timing, is a waste of money.
There is good amount of research about creatine, caffeine, and calorie surplus to increase weight, but inconclusive research about supplementing with BCAA's, thus BCAA's are for the time being a waste of money. Theses guys are doing a great job of increasing this awareness
PEOPLE THAT SAY THESE GUYS ARE WRONG LOVE TO GET ROBBED. U NEVER GET A BODYBUILDER USEING BCAA N SHIT! ITS FOR ADVATISEMENT! THINK BASTARDS LISTEN TO FREE ADVISE! THE ONES WHO ARE SAYING THEY WORK ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY
@hedbilll98 first of all, they're not even fitness professionals. second, how can you trust guys who can't even say amino acids right. third, what level of education do they have regarding fitness- degree in nutrition, sports medicine, etc.
the thing is alot of the amino acids you take will go from blood to urine .. remember when you pee you see alot of foam? - thats the amino acids from protein
but why ?
kidney will balance the ph level in your blood and minerals level
but when you take bcaa's especially after workout , you'll create high level of essential AA more than non essential AA
at that point no matter how much the kidney will waste you'll still manage high EAA level in the blood
i started on BCAA's just over 2 weeks ago.... and im progressing alot faster than i was prior, pb's every workout.. placebo or not, i can definitely notice a difference.
@xXJeReMiAhXx99 lol overlooked????? rnt they saying its BS?? all the info ive found (inc my changes) say good things. if they find it isnt worth it then fair enuf tho
@JCaSs1001 lol they said it's bs ur protien has it but there are lots of claims that specificly extra leucine might be able to keep ur body in a anabolic state 24/7
the point of bcaas is to alter the amino acid composition of your protein supplement, for example adding leucine to your protein shake after your workout will trigger a more anabolic response
This is completely ridiculous. BCAAs have been shown to prevent muscle catabolism, and promote anabolism, especially while exercising, or dieting. BCAAs can also be used as an energy source by the body. They are absorbed quickly, without drawing blood away from the periphery, allowing for easy digestion during exercise. Protein that you take immediately post-workout still takes time before it reaches your system. BCAA uptake is almost instantaneous providing exactly what your muscles need.
If anything..Preworkout stimulant supplements like the ones you have mentioned are a waste of money and are used by majority scronny teenage highschoolers who think creatinezzz is steroidzzz and will get them hyoogeee. That's not to say they aren't worthwhile for some just due to the stim effect, however BCAAs, particularly Leucine do exhibit an anabolic response when added to a post workout whey drink (even with BCAAs present in the whey) and they do exhibit an anti catabolic effect.
The physiological response to BCAAs is different than that of the amino acid chains in complete proteins. This is fact. I do agree that if someone has a good protein intake, then they are already getting a good amount of BCAAs, enough for good growth. However, for those who train fasted or are followers of IF like LeanGains or CheatMode...BCAAs become much more needed as a pre and during workout supplement. If you consume a preworkout meal...they aren't needed much though.
Dude at GNC tried to sell me a supp. stack including a whole bunch of amino acids and casein and what not. Im assuming since im skinny, he thought that i would jump at the bit to get bigger by any means necessary and BUY THIS PRODUCT. Nope. Not a fucking chance. I knew better. Thanks twinmuscle for giving me the advice to do whatever the fuck i want to with.
Dude, i cant agree with you on any of what you just said. If you want to develop Lean muscle mass. take your BCAA's or protein shakes. reguardless when it comes down to anything that you NEED TO BUY BECAUSE YOU DONT GET IT IN YOUR REGULAR DIET, then buy BCAAs. Pre workout does not make you buff it just gets you to find the cracked out energy to perform the task.
yeah.... neither of ya are over a buck fitty. cant even speak proper english. when ya got your degree in human nutrition & biology then post what ya know...all else is conjecture & assumption.
do you even need pre workout supplements? im using assault right now
but im leaving for the military navy seals, an I was told to get off of it, just wondering but are pre workout supps really a big deal to strength and muscle growth?
@Smokeydabear415 Yes & No...generally speaking, pre-workout supps. do work (in the beginning) & then your body builds up a resistance to it...Speaking from my own experience, I only benefited from them for about 5-6months...I'm off 'em now & my workouts are the same...Alot of people build resistance to them and wait a few months before jumping on them again...Most of them are all caffeine anyways...BottomLine: if you're serious & dedicated, you'll be OK without any pre-workout supps...Peace
YOu bunch dumbasses!! lol, Thats why its called a -Supplement- you should take it to supplement if you are not getting enough protein or meat!! lol, ignorant fools.. WOW!
@XdrummerX101 Dude, take Bcaa's Before and after you workout. and if you want really good results, Take them when you wake up instantly and right before bed. This will tell your body not to break down the lean mass and use fat and sugars as a source of fuel. Whey is good too but id recomend just eating your meat. Dont worry about creatine and preworkout drinks until your atleast 18. Beta Alanine is good for inhibiting lactic acid which delays muscle fatigue. i recomend that and bcaas. thats it
@SouthPaw6687 ok so i have to take bcaas when i wake upand before workout and after workout and before i sleep , so that 4 times a day or only when i wake up and before sleep not before and after workout,thanks alot
LOL THEY BASH BCAA YET THEY TAKE PRESURGE WHICH HAS A LOT OF CREATINE. I'D SAY 50% OF PPL WHO LIFT WEIGHTS REGULARLY OR FREQUENTLY ARE ON THAT FAKE SHIT IT'S TOTALLY FAKE AND IF THESE 2 STOPPED TAKING IT FOR LIKE A MONTH THEY'D LOOK DRASTICALLY DEFLATED
ANYWAY, I WAS STUNNED BC THERE'S THIS ONE SITE THAT DOES REVIEWS ON PRODUCTS; I THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING A GOOD JOB UNTIL I HEARD THE DUMBEST COMMENT IN A WHILE FROM THEM -- IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE: "The metabolism thing is a myth"
the thing with bcaa's are you wont notice results unless you use them correctly they are generally recommended for empty stomach consumption since taking with proteins form a competitive environment and you dont make the use of them, also they are useful for preventing the body going catabolic when in periods of very low cals such as pre contest, if you do use them as intended then you can go into a greater calorie defect than normal and still maintain muscle tissue, that said EAA's are better
this isnt exactly true... bcaa's are basically the same thing as protein thats true so you can just get those in protein true. but bcaa's are good because they come in a pill form and you can take it with you to work and take them when you cant eat. 1 gram of amino acids is equal to 5 grams of protein. if you can find really cheap amino acids its definately worth it. its a lot faster then a protein shake and doesnt taste nasty
Yea just look at all the physiques that the ancient Greek and Roman Gods were modelled after.. over 2000 years ago people were sculpting their bodies very similar to a modern day body builder and not a single supplement company existed!
BCAAs are 3 amino acids that bypass the liver and get absorbed directly my muscle tissue.
You can almost think of muscle tissue as BCAAs + water.
"l-leucine has been shown to be the specific trigger for protein synthesis" -Justin Harris. And he knows a hell of a lot more about supplements and bodybuilding than these guys
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I must disagree. Charles Poliquin has done multiple studies on the efficacy of BCAA's and results have been great. You said BCAA's are basically predigested protein, that is some what right if you are referring that they must not be digested first before entering the blood stream. In one study a group of athletes were put on a diet consisting of 200g protein and the other group was on a diet of 150g with 50g BCAA's. The BCAA group gained an avg. 7 pounds
although there is some truth to this, if anyone knows anything about nutrition they would know bcaa are not for getting bigger, the purpose of taking these is to keep from be catabolic, gives you a bigger window between meals and supplys your body extra protiens for a work out so no its not a complete waste of money.
there are numerous studies..not just opinion..that support the use of BCAAs..pre, intra, and post workout for its anti-catabolic qualities..sorry guys but this time u are wrong
If u want to save so more money, try the pre work out drink by I FORCE called Maximize. Has all the same primary ingredience as all the top dogs but half the price. And trust me when I say its just as good if not better. Give it a shot. I know how expensive it can be when your trying to get an edge in the "Supp" game.
hey guys i know your strongly agaisnt BCAA and amino, but i dont eat that much meat i hate the taste of it. so should i take BCAA since im not getting any of my aminos from meat?
Do these guys just make shit up based on their own opinions and disregard researched data? Who would listen to these two dudes? So when I take insulin I don't need to take BCAA/EAA's? Do you guys share one brain?
its like u wanna compare brown rice vs lettuce.....2 different things and two different products....the reason they promote jack3d is to get the xtra pump if you are working for a so n so long....if you can afford bcaa's on the top then why don't you go and buy it if it makes you happier.
The phrase branched-chain amino acids or BCAA is sometimes used to refer to the amino acids having aliphatic side-chains that are non-linear. These are leucine, isoleucine and valine. The combination of these three essential amino acids make up approximately 1/3 of skeletal muscle in the human body, and play an important role in protein synthesis. BCAA?s are currently used clinically to aid in the recovery of burn victims, as well as for supplementation for strength athletes.
Hey bro I luv your videos brothas but yall lost me with this one. I`m actually trying to cut for vacation in 16 weeks I been taking met Rx amino 3000 I take it right before my cardio in the am. Would that help me to spare my muscle? If not brothas what do yall recommend> got get this 4-6 pack. Doing low carb on the diet
Dymatize SUPER AMINO 4800 are great aminos,im taking them loonger now and im impressed ,my muscles are bigger+ i can pick more weigh*Dymatize Super Amino 4800 is a high quality, high-efficiency protein source made from the finest proprietary blend of Whey Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Concentrate, and Free Form Amino Acids. This custom blend is an excellent source of essential and non-essential amino acids including the valuable Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA).
The preworkout supps you mentioned are also a waste of money to me also. I take pure AAKG (which is only $11 per 30 servings) and a cup of organic black coffee no sugar added. I get the same amount of energy with no jitters. Also, studies show taking creatine and caffeine at the same time makes the creatine useless, which alot of the N.O. supplements have creatine in it.
I take no protein just aminos protein is the middle man and I out perform my friends on protein, protein is good no doubt but it dehydrates me. Aminos are faster for me.
these guys are fake for deleting my comment lol
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prework out is soooo dumb - 2010 hype bs.........bcaa helps not allowing your muscle to breakdown into bcaa which causes you to lose muscle mass. if you both think your stoping anti-canabolic then tell me how are you calculating the rate of breakdown after a workout with addition to your weight? =D
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dajamo39 1 week ago
@twinmuscleworkout do you guys think BCAA products would help someone who is living a vegan lifestyle?? who is unable to eat dairy or meat. trying to give a friend some advice and most protein powders contain some sort of egg or dairy in it. thanks
waterfordbum89 1 week ago
@waterfordbum89 if your a vegan u can just forget about building any muscle your basically a walking vagina
420Crackdealer 1 week ago 3
@420Crackdealer hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
stevethetree1991 4 days ago
@420Crackdealer LMAO omg i just thought id read the funniest comment of the day but yours wins hahaha
XenatR 3 days ago
I'm new to workout supplements and was wondering if I really need creatine?
AlmostMatty 1 week ago
Kevin pronounce Amino as Aminio acids.. Aminio, seriously? And u got fuckers who believe that shit comin outta ur big lips? No comment.
butagaris 2 weeks ago
Steroids
butagaris 2 weeks ago
hey you two fags stop using steriods
tankkfp 3 weeks ago
@tankkfp that's what she said
luisernestorm 2 weeks ago
i think that if you believe they work then youre gonna see improvement but not neccesarily because of the bcaa's but mostly because youre convinced that since you took them youre gonna be able to do more reps and have more power and that thought arleady enables you to do more reps and have more power
marquessimon 3 weeks ago
LOL
what a super scientific presentation ! thank "Dupond brothers"
70athens 3 weeks ago
BCAAs are pre digested as u said so if u take it after a workout its absorbed right away. the ones in protein shakes are peptide bond so they need to be broken down. so u need BCAAs
greeksoul 4 weeks ago 2
I have started using xtend 2 months ago and amazing results while cutting alot of calories from my diet and loosing weight. I have been able to maintain most of my strength on my lifts. I think u don't need bcaa supplementation if you are bulking but while on a cut and ur low on calories I think bcaa are amazing.
leeran8 1 month ago
well i have to kinda agree on that , u better spend ur money on a protein stuff or amino acids that have them all essencial and non essencial, super amoni 4800 dor example though i prefer protein supplements
darkogy 1 month ago
if this is true then why are BCAA's in so many preworkout products, SIZEON and others
AustinDuggal 1 month ago
@AustinDuggal there in everything you are probably getting enough bcaas in your diet so supplementing it your just gonna piss it out and waste it.
gogetatr12 1 month ago
58 people wasted their money on buying BCAAs
alessiojones1 1 month ago
Correction. Non essential are what your body can create without food. My mistake. But google it. Web MD it. I dont' need to explain it. Educate yourself. Thank you.
JaykeMEllis 1 month ago
You can never get all of your Amino acids from your foods. There are essential and non essential amino acids. Non essential are the acids that your body can breakdown from food. But, you can never get enough aminos from food alone to "efficiently" build muscle. Essential are what your body needs from outside sources. "BCAA" are an easy way to supplement these. I will not listen to som gangster rhetoric and believe what these gentlmen say when they cannot even pronounce what the subject is.
JaykeMEllis 1 month ago 3
@JaykeMEllis someone had to say it. thank you.
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I do not mean to put your intelligence down by any means lalem. But, I am a certified nutritionist as well as a certified personal trainer. Of course companies do not want the public to know about the inner working of the body. They want people like these gentlemen to confuse you and lead you in the wrong direction. As you were saying regarding "Complete", no, i'm afraid you are wrong. There is no food known to man that is complete.
JaykeMEllis 1 month ago
BCAA's are not a waste of money. These guys are idiots and give completely inaccurate advice. Listen to them if you will. Educate yourself on how your body works during protein Synthesis. Otherwise it's like the blind leading the blind. Without BCAA's your body cannot build protein "Efficiently". BCAA's also help to maintain a consistent anabolic state. Will you feel the results per say like a supplement such as "Jack3d?" No. but, you are a fool to think that BCAA's are not a necessity.
JaykeMEllis 1 month ago
@JaykeMEllis lol thats the point. these guys are right on the money. amino acids are what all proteins are made of. all meat, poultry, egg, soy, and dairy proteins are called "complete" because they have all the amino acids. you dont need to take bcaa's unless you are a vegan bodybuilder with a soy allergy. you will get bcaa's from your protein sources. and jack3d is a pre-workout stimulant! supplement companies want your money they're not trying to educate you on protein synthesis.
lalem91 1 month ago
I started to use BCAA and have less muscle fatigue ,than before on recovery. I think these are ok at the right price
hexlec2010 1 month ago
whats next? "don't use vitamins its bulllshit use steroids!!!!!!!"
fmcg552 1 month ago
Well Lui Marco says Bcaa is essential and hes a bodybuilder isnt he?
The Pros dont take it cause they dont need to on roids...Duh!
MrSteveFrehley 1 month ago 2
They sound like a bunch of black rednecks.
anwaryussuf 1 month ago 2
hmmm so you are saying creatine and glutamine are useless? maybe lift some more before talking shit barely got any muscle compared to me.
Stoksie01 1 month ago
Ameeneo Acids...Word to yo mutha
mauiportal24 1 month ago
why dont you just have a usp banner in the background.
justin8910 2 months ago
as you know, BCAAs are added into many protein supps. But did you know that all proteins contain single-chain amino acids, which the body can make into branch chain amino acids if need be?
You may hear the term "Essential" amino acids, which means that the body cannot produce them on it's own. You need to ingest proteins from your diet in order for you body to make them. DOESN'T HAVE TO COME FROM A BCAA SUPPLEMENT (that's just another little white lie the supplement companies tell you)
argentotenebre 2 months ago
I just look at Sandow in the years around 1900 and I know I dont need anything but good nutrition...
Majority of you is brainwashed by the forums where the guys of the Supp-Industry post, and you have no own experience with what helps you...
m8dness987 2 months ago
Always take free advice it's the best up ever get!!!
hedbilll98 2 months ago
sorry but you guys really shouldn't be giving advice on subjects you clearly know nothing about.
plantera07 2 months ago
branch chained "AMINIEO" acids are useful for preventing muscle loss during dieting.
when you are dieting your body doesnt have enough carbs to burn during training so it will convert muscle tissue to glucose and burn it. when u have bcaas in ur blood muscle will be spared.
amostofi1999 2 months ago
@amostofi1999
ya muscle will be spared and bcaa will be burned if you take it. Diet is diet.... you can't diet without losing a little muscle mass
Fireluckers 2 months ago
I beg to differ, after meets and races this quickens my recovery.
corvettedog 2 months ago
you guys are very misinformed about this subject.
coolagent000 2 months ago
Well, actually, BCAAs aren't exactly for building muscle. They are to prevent muscle catabolism if you're doing fasted training, or people who practice fasting and don't get enough protein during long fasts.
coolcabincrew 2 months ago
first of all, they're not even fitness professionals. second, how can you trust guys who can't even say amino acids right. third, what level of education do they have regarding fitness- degree in nutrition, sports medicine, etc. but they can think whatever the fuck they wanna think. besides, most protein supplements contain BCAAs now so whatever.
mcortezzzzzzz 2 months ago
Amineo Acids
AnusOner 2 months ago
thanks for the advice
jordonism 2 months ago
can we still do what ever the fuck we wanna do?
tsrolph 2 months ago
Man, these 2 don't know shit about biochemistry or how amino acids are used and absorbed by the body.
Way to suggest taking a mass-load of stimulants instead. Brilliant. I hope none of the kids watching this video take that advice.
As far as professional bodybuilders taking BCAAs, I can think of 4 off the top of my head.
Evan Centopani
Erik Fanhouser
Branch Warren
Jay Cutler
palchod 2 months ago 4
@palchod that must be why these guys are so small
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EAA or BCAA supplements are not used to satisfy our daily needs. They will help to, before a workout (preferably) to significantly stimulate protein synthesis. Why these will stimulate the synthesis more strongly than, for example, whey protein are because they are in free form (not bound to protein) and is therefore no need for breakdown, so it goes directly into the blood. If you use it during a workout it works in an anti-catabolic way.
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- The acute muscle building "state" after a workout is controlled by amino acids, thats why amino acids (free form) after a workout is, a big advantage. So around the workout is recommended (preferably before and after) are recommended bcaa and eaa. During the day there is a lot better and more satisfying, alternatives with slow breakdown.
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obror 2 months ago
Thanks for the great advice guys!
Keep up the bad work ;)
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lol @ 1:14 i love how point blank he is
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nikolatesla08 2 months ago
Great video, don't listen to all the dumbass comments mayne
TrigzOrTreat 2 months ago
Hodgetwins rule
Aj007cool 3 months ago
Hmm, I disagree. L-Glutamine definitely works for me. Eliminates DOMS W A Y quicker. Cheap as chips too, so I see no reason not to get it. I spend 6 dollars and it lasts me about 3 months.
Toedoog 3 months ago
fags!
jasonlikesdeathmetal 3 months ago
why are there so many dislikes?
carreraGT92 3 months ago
thank you guys, i went out to buy a proteine suplement for the first time in my life
and the seller tried to force me to also buy aminoacid with some bullshit excuses.
vagvll 3 months ago
Correct, it's all in the food as stated. But, in a cutting phase, BCAA's can help to simply retain muscle while under calorie restriction. They have their place, if used properly. To mindlessly add them to a regimen without regard to their value as a supplement in terms overall diet and timing, is a waste of money.
badmaxx 3 months ago
Appreciate the videos guys, huge fan!
Russell192Talks 3 months ago
I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT THESE TWO but honestly it seems like their butt buddies... in other words they ram eachothers assholes!
pumphouse00 3 months ago
@pumphouse00 no, i think they're brothers and you sir sound like a jackass
KaraLindaLee 3 months ago
Do you guys sleep on bunk beds?
DrDisasta 3 months ago 64
You two are idiots! Learn to say things correctly before you try to sound like you know what your talking about!
mmbacon79 3 months ago
it is weird watching this.
JUCOLVARDallacess 3 months ago
There is good amount of research about creatine, caffeine, and calorie surplus to increase weight, but inconclusive research about supplementing with BCAA's, thus BCAA's are for the time being a waste of money. Theses guys are doing a great job of increasing this awareness
crusher1427 3 months ago
PEOPLE THAT SAY THESE GUYS ARE WRONG LOVE TO GET ROBBED. U NEVER GET A BODYBUILDER USEING BCAA N SHIT! ITS FOR ADVATISEMENT! THINK BASTARDS LISTEN TO FREE ADVISE! THE ONES WHO ARE SAYING THEY WORK ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY
hedbilll98 3 months ago 15
@hedbilll98 first of all, they're not even fitness professionals. second, how can you trust guys who can't even say amino acids right. third, what level of education do they have regarding fitness- degree in nutrition, sports medicine, etc.
mcortezzzzzzz 2 months ago
@hedbilll98 you're clearly very intelligent...
Grape24ape 1 month ago
You guys are so smart! OMG ya can't even say the word amino ? Prove this theory
egokillerR32 3 months ago
u guys are bull shit
WONDERDRUGG 3 months ago
Would be good to know what you base your "BCAAs are BS" theory on, you can't just say they're shit because they're shit, please do explain why
4c00h 3 months ago
"Aminio" Acids? lol, nigger can't speak properly
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clarice2433 3 months ago
lol unleashed by presurge its actually called presurge unleashed by Athletic Edge Nutrition
dmezquit 3 months ago
BRANCH CHAINED "AMINIEEO" ACIDS
07Redstang 3 months ago
fucking idiots
YTlopezt16 3 months ago
Remember bodybuilders do not use steroids, better try prohormones, they are safe and legal, more info: stacklabs.info
funkeuc 4 months ago
And you are a WASTE of TIME ! Fcking Homos !!!
grufiog 4 months ago
i totally disagree with you folks
the thing is alot of the amino acids you take will go from blood to urine .. remember when you pee you see alot of foam? - thats the amino acids from protein
but why ?
kidney will balance the ph level in your blood and minerals level
but when you take bcaa's especially after workout , you'll create high level of essential AA more than non essential AA
at that point no matter how much the kidney will waste you'll still manage high EAA level in the blood
alaanees 4 months ago
@alaanees
and that means more eaa's to muscle > faster recovery
thats why you notice less pain the next day if you take the eaa's like
leucine, isoleucine , valine
try it guys there is a cheap product on bodybuilding and other from optimum called 2:1:1 recovery
all the best
alaanees 4 months ago
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alaanees 4 months ago
@alaanees same thing as meat but you pay way more money, right?
Hiphopisntdead1 3 months ago
@Hiphopisntdead1
meat amino acid profile almost like whey
infact whey is the best protein believe it or not , fast absorb , high biological value
whey is cheap > less fat > fast absorb
meat is expensive > more fat > high cholesterol > slow absorb
if you mix both would be great
alaanees 3 months ago
@alaanees i dont like it
Hiphopisntdead1 3 months ago
i started on BCAA's just over 2 weeks ago.... and im progressing alot faster than i was prior, pb's every workout.. placebo or not, i can definitely notice a difference.
JCaSs1001 4 months ago
@JCaSs1001 they overlooked the possible anabolic effect of excessive bcaa intake
xXJeReMiAhXx99 3 months ago
@xXJeReMiAhXx99 lol overlooked????? rnt they saying its BS?? all the info ive found (inc my changes) say good things. if they find it isnt worth it then fair enuf tho
JCaSs1001 3 months ago
@JCaSs1001 lol they said it's bs ur protien has it but there are lots of claims that specificly extra leucine might be able to keep ur body in a anabolic state 24/7
xXJeReMiAhXx99 3 months ago
the point of bcaas is to alter the amino acid composition of your protein supplement, for example adding leucine to your protein shake after your workout will trigger a more anabolic response
gerrrfreak61 4 months ago
This is completely ridiculous. BCAAs have been shown to prevent muscle catabolism, and promote anabolism, especially while exercising, or dieting. BCAAs can also be used as an energy source by the body. They are absorbed quickly, without drawing blood away from the periphery, allowing for easy digestion during exercise. Protein that you take immediately post-workout still takes time before it reaches your system. BCAA uptake is almost instantaneous providing exactly what your muscles need.
palchod 4 months ago
@palchod noone is saying its bad. BCAA's are very important but you get them from your diet (meat eggs milk etc) and your protein shakes..
killerbiller35 4 months ago
i am trying for few months with BCAAs and found a big change in the recovery time and geting my fat percentage lower. i found, it is a must.
ThePaffen 4 months ago
why do you guys dress in matching wife beaters? it's gay as fuck
anujbahl 4 months ago
If anything..Preworkout stimulant supplements like the ones you have mentioned are a waste of money and are used by majority scronny teenage highschoolers who think creatinezzz is steroidzzz and will get them hyoogeee. That's not to say they aren't worthwhile for some just due to the stim effect, however BCAAs, particularly Leucine do exhibit an anabolic response when added to a post workout whey drink (even with BCAAs present in the whey) and they do exhibit an anti catabolic effect.
DJQuips 4 months ago
The physiological response to BCAAs is different than that of the amino acid chains in complete proteins. This is fact. I do agree that if someone has a good protein intake, then they are already getting a good amount of BCAAs, enough for good growth. However, for those who train fasted or are followers of IF like LeanGains or CheatMode...BCAAs become much more needed as a pre and during workout supplement. If you consume a preworkout meal...they aren't needed much though.
DJQuips 4 months ago
are u guys related?
scotland1989able 4 months ago
@scotland1989able wow haha. do u not understand the meaning of twinmuscleworkout
CoDVaRiaTionZz 4 months ago
@CoDVaRiaTionZz -_- that was a joke because they look completely identical
scotland1989able 3 months ago
Dude at GNC tried to sell me a supp. stack including a whole bunch of amino acids and casein and what not. Im assuming since im skinny, he thought that i would jump at the bit to get bigger by any means necessary and BUY THIS PRODUCT. Nope. Not a fucking chance. I knew better. Thanks twinmuscle for giving me the advice to do whatever the fuck i want to with.
RunfromtheHeathen 4 months ago
Dude, i cant agree with you on any of what you just said. If you want to develop Lean muscle mass. take your BCAA's or protein shakes. reguardless when it comes down to anything that you NEED TO BUY BECAUSE YOU DONT GET IT IN YOUR REGULAR DIET, then buy BCAAs. Pre workout does not make you buff it just gets you to find the cracked out energy to perform the task.
SouthPaw6687 4 months ago
yeah.... neither of ya are over a buck fitty. cant even speak proper english. when ya got your degree in human nutrition & biology then post what ya know...all else is conjecture & assumption.
fishfearme6606 4 months ago
do you even need pre workout supplements? im using assault right now
but im leaving for the military navy seals, an I was told to get off of it, just wondering but are pre workout supps really a big deal to strength and muscle growth?
Smokeydabear415 4 months ago
@Smokeydabear415 Yes & No...generally speaking, pre-workout supps. do work (in the beginning) & then your body builds up a resistance to it...Speaking from my own experience, I only benefited from them for about 5-6months...I'm off 'em now & my workouts are the same...Alot of people build resistance to them and wait a few months before jumping on them again...Most of them are all caffeine anyways...BottomLine: if you're serious & dedicated, you'll be OK without any pre-workout supps...Peace
rocksvids08 4 months ago
@rocksvids08 thanks bro appreciate the helpful advice
Smokeydabear415 4 months ago
No disrespect, but you brothers look gay as shit.
dkapone 4 months ago
YOu bunch dumbasses!! lol, Thats why its called a -Supplement- you should take it to supplement if you are not getting enough protein or meat!! lol, ignorant fools.. WOW!
jcrsix1 5 months ago
i am turning 16y/o do u thing that whey , amino acids , or even iso 100 is good for me and my age
XdrummerX101 5 months ago
@XdrummerX101 Dude, take Bcaa's Before and after you workout. and if you want really good results, Take them when you wake up instantly and right before bed. This will tell your body not to break down the lean mass and use fat and sugars as a source of fuel. Whey is good too but id recomend just eating your meat. Dont worry about creatine and preworkout drinks until your atleast 18. Beta Alanine is good for inhibiting lactic acid which delays muscle fatigue. i recomend that and bcaas. thats it
SouthPaw6687 4 months ago
@SouthPaw6687 ok so i have to take bcaas when i wake upand before workout and after workout and before i sleep , so that 4 times a day or only when i wake up and before sleep not before and after workout,thanks alot
XdrummerX101 4 months ago
Twin friends, what do you think of magnesium supplementation?
Jitpring 5 months ago
the only video where y'alls haircut is clean :)
VvRushvV 5 months ago
I'M GUNNA GO BACK THERE FOR PRODUCT ASSESSMENTS LOL
Eleetnessful 5 months ago
LOL THEY BASH BCAA YET THEY TAKE PRESURGE WHICH HAS A LOT OF CREATINE. I'D SAY 50% OF PPL WHO LIFT WEIGHTS REGULARLY OR FREQUENTLY ARE ON THAT FAKE SHIT IT'S TOTALLY FAKE AND IF THESE 2 STOPPED TAKING IT FOR LIKE A MONTH THEY'D LOOK DRASTICALLY DEFLATED
ANYWAY, I WAS STUNNED BC THERE'S THIS ONE SITE THAT DOES REVIEWS ON PRODUCTS; I THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING A GOOD JOB UNTIL I HEARD THE DUMBEST COMMENT IN A WHILE FROM THEM -- IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE: "The metabolism thing is a myth"
I DON'T THINK
Eleetnessful 5 months ago
sounds like some bcaa manufacturer refused to sponsor you.
dstdvl 5 months ago
the thing with bcaa's are you wont notice results unless you use them correctly they are generally recommended for empty stomach consumption since taking with proteins form a competitive environment and you dont make the use of them, also they are useful for preventing the body going catabolic when in periods of very low cals such as pre contest, if you do use them as intended then you can go into a greater calorie defect than normal and still maintain muscle tissue, that said EAA's are better
nojhead 5 months ago
How about take both. An abundance of protein may not be the best for you liver. BCAA are already broken down.
pacfanct 5 months ago
youre an idiot!!
cackboyy 5 months ago
this isnt exactly true... bcaa's are basically the same thing as protein thats true so you can just get those in protein true. but bcaa's are good because they come in a pill form and you can take it with you to work and take them when you cant eat. 1 gram of amino acids is equal to 5 grams of protein. if you can find really cheap amino acids its definately worth it. its a lot faster then a protein shake and doesnt taste nasty
healthyandyoung 6 months ago
@healthyandyoung sort your grammar out before you start talking crap!
rainxxxx 5 months ago
you just take steroids!
TheAbe1212 6 months ago
Why am I seeing double
dlsbucur 6 months ago
i dunno, i took amino acids and i can certainly feel alot of difference and see difference, so i dunno but this video sounds silly to me :/
whiteraider 6 months ago
your guys accent sounds like john c. reiley...
scolton4life15 6 months ago
Fuuu- SION! youre lookin at 450 pounds of muscle right now
hoagiesupreme 6 months ago
take em during your workout, they work
conraddavies 6 months ago
They Work For Me.
SpaceeJamms11 6 months ago
BCAAs are bullshit but pre-workout supplements aren't...rather spend £15 on a months supply of BCAA than £35+ on a tub of Caffeine! Geez..
Epionea 6 months ago
you guys are idiots. BCAA's are fucking useful a lot of pro bodybuilders take it.
THEsystemdownload 6 months ago
@THEsystemdownload i agree, these are fools
FUTtipsandtrickz 6 months ago
Yea just look at all the physiques that the ancient Greek and Roman Gods were modelled after.. over 2000 years ago people were sculpting their bodies very similar to a modern day body builder and not a single supplement company existed!
FletcherHabit 6 months ago
@FletcherHabit but they werent as big as modern day natural bodybuilders.
THEsystemdownload 6 months ago
If you haven't taken it how are u so sure is bull shit?
Rocky13Ray 6 months ago
BCAAs are 3 amino acids that bypass the liver and get absorbed directly my muscle tissue.
You can almost think of muscle tissue as BCAAs + water.
"l-leucine has been shown to be the specific trigger for protein synthesis" -Justin Harris. And he knows a hell of a lot more about supplements and bodybuilding than these guys
McMarkyMark 7 months ago
Aahhh they are so pretty!
celondelon 7 months ago
guy cant even say amino acids
TheSQTV 7 months ago
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I must disagree. Charles Poliquin has done multiple studies on the efficacy of BCAA's and results have been great. You said BCAA's are basically predigested protein, that is some what right if you are referring that they must not be digested first before entering the blood stream. In one study a group of athletes were put on a diet consisting of 200g protein and the other group was on a diet of 150g with 50g BCAA's. The BCAA group gained an avg. 7 pounds
RyanFrick1 7 months ago
@RyanFrick1 I believe the 250g protein group gained 2lbs.
RyanFrick1 7 months ago
BCAA supplements are mostly useful when cutting weight, since you're not eating as much. It's not a waste of money and it has it's purpose.
BigGee614 7 months ago
although there is some truth to this, if anyone knows anything about nutrition they would know bcaa are not for getting bigger, the purpose of taking these is to keep from be catabolic, gives you a bigger window between meals and supplys your body extra protiens for a work out so no its not a complete waste of money.
Bwilsonfitness 7 months ago
TWO VERY SEXY GUYS WOW;-)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
patanya 7 months ago
there are numerous studies..not just opinion..that support the use of BCAAs..pre, intra, and post workout for its anti-catabolic qualities..sorry guys but this time u are wrong
tangoray187 7 months ago
If u want to save so more money, try the pre work out drink by I FORCE called Maximize. Has all the same primary ingredience as all the top dogs but half the price. And trust me when I say its just as good if not better. Give it a shot. I know how expensive it can be when your trying to get an edge in the "Supp" game.
porkchop6021 7 months ago
how do you guys feel about a higher amount of glutamine?...
Jsebas289 7 months ago
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i would take that money and invest in a good dentist for both of you. Your teeth are jacked up... big time.
foxriders34 7 months ago
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foxriders34 7 months ago
hey guys i know your strongly agaisnt BCAA and amino, but i dont eat that much meat i hate the taste of it. so should i take BCAA since im not getting any of my aminos from meat?
jessieg3 7 months ago
haha luimarco made a video response to yall claim on BCAAs. Hes hating and he wants you all to show your bodies .lol
avatarcollides2day 7 months ago
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aleks9248 7 months ago
hahaha lui marco just responded to you guys!! check his vid out! its ONNNN
aleks9248 7 months ago
GHETTO WORKOUT!
Hahahanoseriously 8 months ago
Do these guys just make shit up based on their own opinions and disregard researched data? Who would listen to these two dudes? So when I take insulin I don't need to take BCAA/EAA's? Do you guys share one brain?
TheMusclesmagee 8 months ago 2
bcaas are a waste of money but 1rm and jack3d aren't? you guys are crazy
plantera07 8 months ago
@plantera07
its like u wanna compare brown rice vs lettuce.....2 different things and two different products....the reason they promote jack3d is to get the xtra pump if you are working for a so n so long....if you can afford bcaa's on the top then why don't you go and buy it if it makes you happier.
cibulka2005 7 months ago
hey guys, could you please make a video review of NO.XPLODE, would be great, and btw ur vidieos are so damn good
camtrax 8 months ago
You guys are great .No bullsh*t and great info ,just what i like!
mmmeijer01 8 months ago
@mmmeijer01
The phrase branched-chain amino acids or BCAA is sometimes used to refer to the amino acids having aliphatic side-chains that are non-linear. These are leucine, isoleucine and valine. The combination of these three essential amino acids make up approximately 1/3 of skeletal muscle in the human body, and play an important role in protein synthesis. BCAA?s are currently used clinically to aid in the recovery of burn victims, as well as for supplementation for strength athletes.
YouTobePudi 7 months ago
Hey bro I luv your videos brothas but yall lost me with this one. I`m actually trying to cut for vacation in 16 weeks I been taking met Rx amino 3000 I take it right before my cardio in the am. Would that help me to spare my muscle? If not brothas what do yall recommend> got get this 4-6 pack. Doing low carb on the diet
moses155 8 months ago
Dymatize SUPER AMINO 4800 are great aminos,im taking them loonger now and im impressed ,my muscles are bigger+ i can pick more weigh*Dymatize Super Amino 4800 is a high quality, high-efficiency protein source made from the finest proprietary blend of Whey Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Concentrate, and Free Form Amino Acids. This custom blend is an excellent source of essential and non-essential amino acids including the valuable Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA).
piprik 8 months ago
Finally some people who don't spew bullshit about all the different supplements
Moulty86 8 months ago
The preworkout supps you mentioned are also a waste of money to me also. I take pure AAKG (which is only $11 per 30 servings) and a cup of organic black coffee no sugar added. I get the same amount of energy with no jitters. Also, studies show taking creatine and caffeine at the same time makes the creatine useless, which alot of the N.O. supplements have creatine in it.
psalas0378 8 months ago
holy shit i was going to buy BCAA caps....
iinfektiv 8 months ago
I take no protein just aminos protein is the middle man and I out perform my friends on protein, protein is good no doubt but it dehydrates me. Aminos are faster for me.
delancey100 8 months ago