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[johnnycash7001]

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[RNPortalLord]

Okay, would JRBeaman and nirvikalpajnana make their final statements please (in 500 words or less)! Sheesh! It's not as though this entire election process is legit anyway. Here's one little factor both of you may have overlooked as far as Iraq: Depleted Uranium. Google it. Learn it. Know it. In short, not only should our troops come home but all LIVING HUMANS AND OTHER LIFEFORMS NEED TO LEAVE THE AREA! Watch the documentary GULF WAR SYNDROME: KILLING OUR OWN by Gary Null. Cheers.

[JRBeaman]

RNPortalLord: Yes, I am aware of Depleted Uranium. Should we cause a political, security and financial disaster for our country on this one issue alone? I think not. Maybe lobbying to discontinue it's use would be more appropriate. Otherwise it would be the tail wagging the dog.

[RNPortalLord]

Did you see the movie? I recommend it. As far as causing a political, security and financial disaster over one issue.....not sure how to put this to you but that would be redundant at this point.

At this point in time, I think it's best we all try to figure out what each of us can do to make the world a saner place rather than argue over politics. The most important solutions that need to be implemented will take a long time and are going to occur under the radar. Enough said.

[JRBeaman]

RNPortalLord: Rp is a great patriot and his issues are indeed mine as they are for many americans. I am very happy to see that he was willing to talk about the stuff that the regular candidates avoid. Ron Paul has been doing this for years, trying to get everyone to get a grasp on what is important, and not just during this election cycle. These issues need to be shoved into all candidates faces and let them know that the people, their employers, are getting sick of being ignored.

RP4VP

[JRBeaman]

Yeah, it aint easy. It is far more complex than RP tries to tell us. Most of those that see the big picture agree with his ideas, but not his solutions. That makes him unelectable.

RP 4 VP

[JRBeaman]

Reword: "Bought oil from Saudies with gold..."

[JRBeaman]

"as to where the american people's treasury gold actually is!"

Many years ago, we bought Oil from the Saudies and they bought weapons for US dollars. That is where it all went. It has been a game of cat and mouse with what little we have left.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : Lets go thru this logically.

1. RP says get out of Iraq. OK, good idea.

2. RP says non-intervention is good. OK, good too.

3. RP says we need to get out of Iraq immediately. Really Bad Idea!

Bottom line, his ideas are great, his reasons are great, but his proposed method would ruin us economically, and severly cripple our security.

You can't just look at a small statement, you have to look at the big picture. If you don't get that, then you can't debate it intellegently.

[nirvikalpajnana]

how would it ruin the economy? if thats such a bullet proof argument, then why arent any of the cantidates using it?

[nirvikalpajnana]

i honestly think that you are making uneducated speculation. i personally trust Ron Paul's judgement over someone who thinks that being a non-interventionist means that the U.S. would not have been involved in WWII. by saving hundreds of billions of dollars by taking the troops home from Iraq AND all the 120 other countries that the U.S. military is occupying(!) the economy would do just fine.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : Wanting to be a non-interventionalist is fine, 'specially if it is not in our interest to bother, but leaving Iraq quickly is not in this realm at all, infact leaving quickly is NOT in our best interest. So using it as a basis for your argument of why to leave Iraq immediatly is nonsensical.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: Your proposal might save a few dollars in the way you define it, but the results would be diasterous for our country finacially in the long run. Without our presence, keeping peace, we would have to go to war to protect our interests, and that is more costly. We need to wean ourselves off oil. That will take time to develop alternatives. Unless we can get this time, our whole economy will be damaged severly, requiring us to borrow more from the FED. That would be disasterous.

[nirvikalpajnana]

are you kidding? what army is going to invade the U.S. if they stop policing the world? why would you have to go to war to protect your interests? all it takes to get off oil is the right incentive. you dont realize that tech like the electric car is being suppressed purposefully. this addiction to oil is a fabrication by big business and until you stop their crimes of suppression then this addiction to oil will never be cured. at least a pull out would force the change thats needed

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: " what army is going to invade the U.S. if they stop policing the world? "

Uh, terrorists that hate whe western culture (not just the US) thru our porus borders. It

has nothing to do with our intervention. Another red herring, makes a good sounding excuse for their jihad to idiots.

Calculate all the costs of everything that would go up if the price of oil went up. Almost everything, raising prices on heating oil and everything we buy. Economics 101.

[nirvikalpajnana]

first off, i said army, not group of a couple hundred dirty cave dwellers who are reacting to the infringement upon their lifestyles by foreigners. if you are worried about the "terrorist threat" then you are worried about your neighour and you are going to willingly hand over all the liberties that your ancestors fought and died for, all in the name of protecting yourself against a god damn ghost. a fear-mongering fabrication created in order to control the population

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: a couple of dirty cave dwellers destroied the twin towers on 9/11. How many of those actions do you think our economy can take?

They don't need an army. Get it?

They don't want us as China does, they only want to ruin all western cultures as it deflowers their religion based governments.

[nirvikalpajnana]

you are incredibly wrong. they attacked the U.S. because of the intrusive and offensive foreign policy, not because they hate freedom. they want to be free to live their lives without dodging bombs, and since havn't been able to do that for at least 10 years, they retaliate. if china had bases in the U.S. and was patrolling our streets, you'd probably join the fight against them. thats whats going on in iraw now, 9/11 happened because U.S was bombing them for years

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : They attacked many countries of western culture before 9/11. Like the UK, Japan, and Spain. When billy was getting his dick sukd in our whitehouse, it signaled we were the most decadent and put a bullseye on the capitol. That is why it was the first target, fortunately unsucessful.

If we were attacking Iraq, why didn't they attack us? Oh, it was a jihad by radical muslums with no connection to Iraq.

RP said that in a debate with Juliani and got his ass handed to him.

[nirvikalpajnana]

well thats not what the 9/11 commission report says. and if you knew anything about religion and violence, which i do being an Anthropology/Religion double major in univerity, then you would know that in all cases it is tied to a sense of nationalism. individuals labelled in the realm of religious violence are politically motivated, religiously justified. they did 9/11 because the U.S. bombs them. they feel justified because of religious philosophy

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: You don't believe the same people that said Iraq had WMD and also wrote the 9/11 report. Uh, same people.

There is no nationalism in this movement against western cultures, only the mullahs getting cave dwellers to comply by giving them jobs as terrorists and justifying their attrocities by jihad.

The US was not bombing Afganastan when they hit us on 9/11.

[nirvikalpajnana]

afghanistan didn't attack the U.S. most of the hijackers were saudis. and regardless who whrote the commission report, it says inside it that they attacked due to U.S. foreign policy. and this isnt a war, it has not been declared. if it was a war, it would be declared. it is psychological war, and the enemy is you

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : "you are incredibly wrong. they attacked the U.S. because of the intrusive and offensive foreign policy, not because they hate freedom."

Not true. They don't love freedom. They don;t know what it is. The are ruled by the mullahs and their religion that is being spoiled by the decadence of western culture.

It isn't a country, it is like the crusades. You can't apply country type war with this problem. We weren't bombing them when they attacked on 9/11.

[nirvikalpajnana]

actually, you were bombing them before 9/11. look it up. the U.S. has been F.Cking with the governments of the middle east since the 50's, overthrowing someone here, financially backing someone there, and just messing with everyone. this has repercussions. keep a leash on the god damn CIA and maybe you wouldnt have 9/11 terrorists on your hands. anyways, i have class in the morning, i'm going to bed.

[JRBeaman]

It isn't the "nationalized people" of a country that is attacking us, it is the

religous radicals and their movement. They also brainwash the rest of the world into thinking what you keep parroting here.

How long?

Till we can claim victory, and not need their oil. Wars are never won on a timetable. Not feasable. Promoting a finishing of this action will get it done sooner than bashing it.

It's a governing religion movement, not a country that are the terrorists. (crusades)

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: " actually, you were bombing them before 9/11"

Uh, we were bombing Afganastan?

I think not.

Red herring.

Quit drinking the media coolaid.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: "why arent any of the cantidates using it?" They are, you arn't listening to them, only RP and his lemmings.

Most educated people understand the bigger picture and don't propose these shortsighted solutions.

I commend RP for bringing up these issues that many other candidates are chicken to address, but RP solutions are disasterous, making him unelectable. Maybe RP for VP to keep the issues alive, but not to plan the method of resolution.

[thenoobpwner]

word...i wish i could put the interwebs in front of all the homeless ppl so they could read into ron paul and vote his ass in! the government/cia doesnt want him to win....and they wont let him...this is proof. our votes dont count for shit. he's got my vote nonetheless

[JRBeaman]

"Paul's specific remedies for what ails our nation amount to the political equivalent of patent-medicine quackery. He discredits the cause of liberty by associating it with his weird and dangerous brand of utopianism. His foreign policy of nonintervention is utopian silliness dressed up in the outdated language of Washington."

- Newsweek

Newsweek has this one right.

[nirvikalpajnana]

no way. how does his logic about the federal reserve and its crimes equate to patent-medicine quackery? this is a class act deflection on the part of big money-big brother. Ron Paul is the only one who cares about you. Ron Paul doesnt want you to be a slave. wake up.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: your statements are juvenile. It may seem to you that RP is the only one that cares, but to use that as the only foundation of your argument to sway people to vote your way is childish. This is a serious matter. RPs concerns are correct, even his proposed solutions are also good. The problem is, that anyone that understands geopolitical and economical issues see his methods to enact his solutions are not reasonable, and in some cases dangerous. That makes him unelectable.

[nirvikalpajnana]

the fact that ron paul is the only one who cares isnt the only foundation to my argument. that just happens to be the only part you focused on. i was defending ron paul's policies against undue criticism. how is instituting competing currency not a reasonable solution to the federal reserve problem? how is a non-interventionalist foreign policy a weird and dangerous brand of utopianism?if the danger you speak of is pulling out of iraq, blowback is inevitable, the only other option is assimilatio

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : You stated many things, like RP, but you never say how. The HOW is RPs problem.

Competing currency is a solution to the FED problem? How?

Nonintervention is a great idea, what would have happened had we not intervend in the war against Hitler? Uh, Go back to school.

See, your ideas sound great on the surface, but to educated people they come off as childish remarks. They ignore the big picture.

Pull out of Iraq? OK. Quickly as RP wants? It would kill us economically.

[nirvikalpajnana]

if you dont understand why competing currency would solve the feredal reserve problem then maybe its YOU who needs to go back to school. and on the subject of hitler, non intervention means not intervening unless its a threat to your national security. ever heard of pearl harbour? "uh, go back to school." dumbass. U.S. didnt get involved until they were attacked, so read a history book, and stop using pathetically researched examples as your intellectual ammunition.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: I know all the resaons, and you obviously don't. That is why I called your remarks childish. If you need to make a dumb statement as a joke, use emoticons, that is what they are for.

"non intervention means not intervening unless its a threat to your national security."

Well, stability in the middle east is a threat to national security and more important, our economy. It is in out interest to finish the job there and not quit immediately as Ron Paul suggests.

[nirvikalpajnana]

you know all the reasons? that honestly made me laugh out loud! notice the lack of rebuttle on the hitler aspect. the middle east is only unstable because of the LACK of a non-interventionalist foreign policy, you uneducated redneck. and if you didnt realize it, there is no such thing as "finishing the job" over there until your precious cantidates achieve their new world order.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: You avoided all the points I was making, and choose instead for a personal attack. That is childish. Your assumption of why the middleeast is unstable also shows your ignorance, as well as does your assumption of what "finish" means. I agree with RP, we need to get out of Iraq, but not instantly as he proposes, as that would ruin our economy. If you can't see why that would happen, then you are missing the knowledge of too many vital issues to even discuss it. (ignorant)

[nirvikalpajnana]

ok, if you are so knowledgeable, as i see that you are in the subject of non-interventionalism, then how is it that pulling out of iraq would ruin the economy? and thats to say ruin it more than it already is

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: "then how is it that pulling out of iraq would ruin the economy?"

1. Price of oil will go up drastically due to increased middleeast instability.

2. It would give the terrorists a great win over the US, encouraging and promoting more terrorism on our country.

Everything we buy/use has it's cost dependant on the price of oil. We need to buy time while we get off our addiction to oil. Leaving Iraq quickly would undermine this possibility, making matters worse than they are now.

[nirvikalpajnana]

if there was a real free market, not controlled by the interests of oil tycoons, there would be aternative sources of energy on the market aka electric cars, such as the incredibly popular GM EV, which was taken off the market..... why? the point is that in order to break the strangle hold of the oligarchy of western power structures there are bound to be some turmoils. why do you think that the iraqui gov' would jack up the oil that much more 1 year from now (when RP could be elected)or 5?

[nirvikalpajnana]

if the next year isnt enough time, and its not like they would be home the day he became president, then how long is it going to take? how many more years? are you arguing a matter of 6 months here?

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnan: Until we can claim credible victory or not give a shit any more because we don't need the oil. That cannot be done in RPs time frame. It isn't any of the points you bring up, it is in the RP timing. Why do you think Saddam wanted to convince the world (and fooled us all) that he had more WMD than he actually had? Because he wanted to keep Iran from taking over his country. That is not happening while we are there, and we can't leave 'till we don't care anymore.

[nirvikalpajnana]

the only one who tried to fool the world about weapons of mass destruction is Bush. your arguments reek of media indocrtination.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: "the only one who tried to fool the world about weapons of mass destruction is Bush. your arguments reek of media indocrtination."

Uh, how about all the other countries, thru independant studies on their own came to the same conclusion, and all the democrats that hate bush agreed that there was WMD by their own sources? Which was a very minor point on why we went.

You are chasing a white rabbit on that one.

Speaking of media, why didn't they report on the WMD that WAS found?

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : We are not there for the oil companies, nice try. We are there to keep our economy from being ruined. That is protecting our interests and needs to be done. Iraq's oil supply is tiny, not the issue at all.

1. Higher oil prices and we are ruined.

2. Middleast instability means higher prices.

As president, this is more important than any of the other points because without economic stabilty here, it renders the other reasons irrelevant. You and RP can't seem to see this.

[nirvikalpajnana]

you dont seem to understand how much money your country invests in the military overseas. cut that spending, and you have close to a trillion dollars a year. that is one hell of a yearly cusion to soften the blow of higher oil prices in the middle east. they already have secured in alaska enough oil to satisfy the US's ravenous consumption for a year. the fact is that noone will change until they have to. and its a reality that the electric car is being suppressed. hydrogen is a joke, 1000%more$

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: yeah, tell your "representitives" in Washington to let us drilol, and do Necular, and renewables.

Alaska only buys us a year, and we cant get it here in a year. Takes longer thatn that.

Biofueles cost more to produce than they save at current oil prices. hydrogen takes more energy to make it work than we get out of it.

We need more time to get this crap in order. Get it? We cannot just quit immediately as RP says. $1 trillion is pie in the sky, irrelevant if we are ruined.

[nirvikalpajnana]

how much time do you need? do you have any idea how long the experts have been talking about this? the oil companies made record profits last year. they will not release the strangle hold until they have to. why do you think that what you say you need "time" to accomplish hasn't been squashed and controlled since the start. go rent the documentary "who killed the electric car?" you might learn something about the nature of the big business and its relationship to government decision

[nirvikalpajnana]

you dont seem to understand that unless the federal reserve is abolished, the economic crash is, in time, inevitable. when a currency is backed by absolutely nothing but the paper it is printed on, you have a BIG PROBLEM! there is a big question as to where the american people's treasury gold actually is! the congress entrusted it to the federal reserve, and no audit has been performed! your government is full of criminals (mines not much better) but Ron Paul is an honest man, the best cantidate

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : abolish the FED? Uh yeah. They own us. We gave our country away to them, as have other countries with similar loaned fake money organizations. You can't just wave your hand and stop them. It is a problem that needed to be stopped in 1913 or atleast in 1975. Remember Lincoln, and John kennedy? They had real money in the works when they died.

It sounds good, but it is not feasable as RP proposes. The pres cannot just pull the plug on the FED. Not feasable. Childish remark.

[nirvikalpajnana]

the way to do it is to introduce competing currency that is backed by gold and silver (inflation proof) this is completely legal under the constitution, but the government shuts all the operations down as "fraud"! look up "liberty dollar" on youtube. it is discraceful! the Federal reserve does have a strangle hold, and the government is in on it all! why else violate the constitution and raid the good people at the liberty dollar?

[nirvikalpajnana]

if you could exchange all your money for money that is actually backed by physically redeemable gold, wouldnt you? why cant competing currencies work on this principle? why does the government shut them down in an unconstitutional way? to control people.

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: "completely legal under the constitution," Yes, but we signed that away in 1913. Yes it is a fraud and a discrace. They can take this country instantly by calling in all the loans and debt. Why else do you think the financial institutions hold the titles to all our cars and property? As collateral to the FED for the money they print. We are hosed, and keeping our financial stability for a while longer is paramount. Another reason we can't abandon Iraq. It's all tied together.

[nirvikalpajnana]

why doesn't someone reverse that law? Ron Paul is going to! if you could exchange your money for gold-backed currency, then when the fed calls in the debt, you'll still have your stuff, because your gold-backed currency will be inflation proof, and worth way more than everyone else's federal reserve dollars. you are suggesting that you dig the hole a bit deeper in fear of it collapsing. if you think acceptable oil prices in the middle east are going to save the economy....

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: " why doesn't someone reverse that law?" It isn't a law it is a contract. You can't just reverse a contract.

You won't have your gold based money when they call in the debt as it will be done before that, and our contract says we can't.

No, acceptable oil prices are not going to save us. Unacceptable oil prices, on the other hand would kill us.

We need to buy time to do all these things you suggest. Leaving Iraq immediately would ruin all that. That is why RP is unelectable.

[nirvikalpajnana]

well i think its legal to negate illegal contracts, wouldn't you agree? congress never had he authority. and again, you still havn't answered the question: how long is it going to take? if the country hasnt gotten it together yet, how much longer, and how many more lives have to be lost?

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana : It isn't an illegal contract. Our congressmen in our behalf, as our representivies, gave it all away, legally and constitutionally in 1913. We wen off the gold and silver base for good (President Johnson) in 1975. That was what John kennedy was trying to avoid. Good idea, but not feasable.

[GlobalDissident]

He wants to protect the Constitution, but I don't need a constitution to tell me what my rights are!

[JRBeaman]

GlobalDissident: No, but your government does.

[GlobalDissident]

Governments, what are governments?

Like insects they annoy me...

Fuck 'em

[JRBeaman]

GlobalDissident "Governments, what are governments? Like insects they annoy me...

Fuck 'em "

You need to go back to school if you don't know.

Maybe that is also why your comments are so childish.

[nirvikalpajnana]

you are the only child here. all you use to back up YOUR argument is " you are childish. you need to go back to school".it was sarcasm when he said "governments, what are governments?" if you didnt pick up on that, its glaringly obvious who is the naive and uneducated one here.stop spreading your own personal failures & apparent discontent of your own life to others who don't deserve it. just because you are unsatisfied with yourself somehow, doesnt mean you have to spread your discontent around

[JRBeaman]

nirvikalpajnana: "its glaringly obvious who is the naive and uneducated one here.stop spreading your own personal failures & apparent discontent of your own life to"

That is incredibly childish for you to say without knowing me in any way.

You need to calm down and look at the big picture, something your hero Ron Paul can't do either. That is why your vote and postings are a waste of your hatred as you ignorantly don't realize he is unelectable for that very reason.

[nirvikalpajnana]

first off, i am not doing this out of hatred- it is the exact opposite. i am trying to help the world to be a safer place by promoting freedom and peace through the Ron Paul campaign. second, its pretty clear to me that anyone who immediately criticizes something as childish, and makes the incinuation of stupidity by telling the person to go back to school feels somehow lacking in themselves and uses intellectual confrontation to try to fill the insecurity fuelled void within

[nirvikalpajnana]

and you're right, my vote doesn't count, because i dont have one. i am Canadian. the only reason i care is because your government wont keep their greasy hands out of our government and hence our lives. i wish you would get the picture, and end the damn wars. the longer the U.S. stays in there, the more supporters Al-Queda will have to commit terrorist attacks when they finally do leave.if you think the U.S. should be there until Osama is eating a god damn happy meal for lunch then you are wrong

[GlobalDissident]

Actually that was in reference to Henry David Thoreau's "Nations! What are nations?... Like insects they swarm"

Didn't you do Thoreau in an American Lit. course or something?

[RNPortalLord]

Not sure who you're talking to. If it's I, the answer is no but thanks!

[GlobalDissident]

Actually it was for JR, but thanks for replying anyway.

[PeacefulParadox]

Is that Raymond Romano?

[RNPortalLord]

You're the 2nd person to suggest that. I guess I'll have to admit to some degree that I do indeed sound like Ray Romano. In the case of this video, a pissed off Ray Romano! If you ever talk to Ray, tell him to support Ron Paul in 2008!!!

[RNPortalLord]

Many Thanks ricrisci. I've been passing that info on as well. I definitely agree that that's where our efforts should be channeled. Cheers!

[lathzz]

Well, you wont see a Paul Kucinich ticket cause D.K. is more of a socialist. that said, I think the people do want Ron Paul. But they have to get out and vote for him. Even if they dont think their vote matters. Hell, I live in KANSAS and I'm registering Repub. just to vote for him. Talk about throwing your vote away!(kansas is a black hole of sheeple if you dont know) But i'm gonna do it anyway. You should too.

[lafther210]

well said.

good video

[realnewsdm]

WFF

In a fair fight we would not be having this discusion!!

The media is so used to telling us what to do, how to dress, how to eat, HOW TO VOTE!!

they must have forgot thier place in things??

They better remember and I mean soon, their place, for we are tired of the BS, the LIES,

and we want:

Ron Paul

lead, follow, git out of the way!!

[ryanmcg2006]

The Media cannot control the country! REVOLUTION! RON PAUL 2008!!

[Gilliatt83]

ron is the last hope for free USA

[ircjunk2004]

You know. Really thankful for internet. Who knows how long TV stations has be twisting these results before.

[AbsoluteVoice]

Vote Ron Paul....the masses are lazy and will not invest time to "research" on their own. Television is nothing more than "fluff", forced opinions, blatant lies and slanted reporting. You want the truth?...look on the internet. There, you'll find the truth.

It's a sad state of affairs, as every American needs to have a camcorder running while in public now. Protect yourself people. Our government sure isn't protecting you.

[ObsidianGT]

VOTE RON PAUL 2008 FOR PRESIDENT!

[thetruth073]

So why would Ron Paul make the Best President for America? - He will Stop The War Immediately - He Will Change Foreign Policy - He will Eliminate the IRS - He Will Eliminate Corporate & Political Corruption - Retore Rights to the People! What has Dr. Ron Paul done? find out ronpaul2008 . com / about (remove spaces) Paste these up above to watch them after youtube . com / watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8 watch?v=ehhj-0JsKmA

[COMALiteJ]

We're seeing history here, folks. In 1960, TV overthrew the newspaper as a major influence on a Presidential election, in the debate of Nixon vs. JFK. (Nixon lost the debate, and almost certainly the election, because he looked ill on-screen. Ironically, this also cost JFK his life a few years later.)

47 years later, the Internet is about to do to TV what TV did to the newspaper.

[RNPortalLord]

I hope and I think you are right. The other factor we have to consider is the voting machines themselves. It's clear that they are easily rigged as well. Many computer scientists/programmers pretty much agree that it's a very easily executed possibility.

[cheekizms]

The online fallowing on RP is just a sliver to a majority America. There are hundreds of video's on youtube and the collage kiddies love him as well and yes some inbreed white trashed americans as well. Do you guys really think you are a majority or even worth more than 3%. think about this for a second.

[realnewsdm]

rightly so please copy paste

CLINT CURTIS in the box above!!

all the proof u ever need!!

[RNPortalLord]

Thanks for the tip. I checked it out and have to agree with you. It pretty much sums it all up in a nutshell. I also watched the entire 'Eternal Vigilance' film which is now on Youtube in 8 parts. Time to get to work.

[COMALiteJ]

Ron Paul only polls around 3% in the AGGREGATE of polls. How many of those, though, don’t even LIST HIM AS AN OPTION? Include enough zeroes in a list of numbers, and the AVERAGE is going to be pretty darn low, no matter HOW high the few non-zeroes are.

[alansready]

the major meida does not ron Paul.. but the people want him. fuck ther major media. lets get ron Paul elected presdident.

[lisadseeker]

They are trying to do the same thing to Ron Paul. Their message is so powerful and different it has the higher ups running scared. We can't let them be silienced.

[RNPortalLord]

Thanks for the update. I totally agree with your comment. I can't help but think that we would've witnessed a similar outpouting of support for either Michael Badnarik, Ralph Nader and perhaps David Cobb had those guys been allowed in the national debates in 2004.

[midwestcharm]

If the polls don't turn out the way they anticipated or how they wanted them too, then they'll ignore it. Then they wander why there are so many conspiracy theories.

[Liberty4Ever]

It would be great if Americans rejected the pre-purchased corporate shills and selected a couple of representatives of We The People. Can you imagine if Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich won their respective primaries and we had an election of substance instead of style, and we selected someone who represented us instead of the Bib Money that buys elections? Go Ron Paul!

[Hawk5151]

Yeah, It's ray from Every Body loves Ray.

[RNPortalLord]

Yes, it's true. I'm actually Ray Romano. Continue to watch my show BUT DISCONTINUE WATCHING THE NEWS ON TV! Cheers!!

[selfTrust1]

huh? Are you serious? Ray Romano? Come on! Prove it!

[RNPortalLord]

Unlike ABC or the Neocons, I will come clean and tell the truth. I am not Ray Romano and I apologize for the misinformation. However, I will continue to tell folks not to get their news from TV!!

[FlexMasterFlex]

Ron has close to 40,000 votes as of right now. Mitt Romney in 2nd with under 5,000.

[JAZZFREEDOM]

Help take our country back!!! Vote Ron Paul 2008!!!

[RNPortalLord]

Yeah, I filmed the online results right at the end of the debate. Usually they show their results at the end of the show and this time they did not. Even PBS barely mentioned him.

[lidixmang]

actually, Ron Paul won with over 30,000 votes... it was pretty devastating to the other candidates, but of course, they wont mention it on nightly news...

[kickzman]

Fuck them indeed.

[itsnobody]

FUCK the media