you cant know the jets are travling 50 times the speed of light anything faster than light and you would not ever see it to measure its distance / time
Quite a few of the referances to "science" in the Qu'ran were already proposed by the ancient Greeks. For example, there was a Greek named Eratosthenes of Cyrene who calculated the Earth was rounded before the quran was revealed and another, Aristarchus of Samos, who said the Earth revolves around the sun.
The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
For obvious reasons the word "philosophy" is never mentioned in the koran !
The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority !
@eleventwentyone21 argument works both ways, except from your standpoint it seems silly. Believing in what you can see and interact with is using your brain. Believing in something you can't see, can't feel, taste, touch smell, hear or anything else, that's ludicrous.
"There is no truth beyond Me. Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread" - Lord Krishna , Bhagavad Gita........ and btw... Krishna says "I am" and "My" and "me".. throughout the Gita... He neevr says "our", "we" or "us"... xXx. Narayan, Naraayan, Narayan. That being you worship is none other than Krishna. He is all pervasive, he is fathomless he is manifest and he is unmanifest. He is ganesh, he is shiva, he is allah and He you and me, He is everywhere.
One who is not envious but is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor and is free from false ego, who is equal in both happiness and distress, who is tolerant, always satisfied, self-controlled, and engaged in devotional service with determination, his mind and intelligence fixed on Me — such a devotee of Mine is very dear to Me
I don't believe in any gods. There are no gods. Gods don't fit into the equation of the universe we now know a lot. Actually we don't know a lot, but enough to say there cannot be gods.
The god thesis fails. Your god, their god everyone's god. Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Thor (oh, sorry Thor is true, Thorsday you know and his papa, Wodensday).
We need to rid the world of Islam (the religion, not people). Your 'belief' is a fucking virus contaminating innocent people. How can you not realize that Muslim is evil? Open your fucking eyes!! You kill, rape and pillage your own people and everyone else. News flash!: Islam is a man-made contradictary 'religion'!! You can kill your wife legally in your country?! You can kill people for utilizing freedom of speech, what the fuck? Abolish Islam/Mohammed 2012, WHO'S WITH ME??!!?!
The failures of God. 1). God was lonely so he created man for companionship. Why didn't he just create a wife for himself? 2). Some of his angels rebelled, one became the Devil. 3). Almost all of the people went bad so God flooded the whole earth, with Noah to save two of everything (oh, why couldn't he just have left mosquitos behind?). 4). Even after the flood and the ten commandments, those created in his perfect image had to have a human sacrifice to pay their 'debt' to God.
@gulsbyjag Believe me there is to need to see God ... similarly there is no need to see Anti-Matter, Anti-Qurak, Anti-Electron etc ... But every mentioned thing does exist
@badinfluence1985 God doesn't need to mention each and everything you need want to hear about ... Instead you need to do ALL your acts according to his commands
@onlyparadise In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna "says One who is not envious but is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor and is free from false ego, who is equal in both happiness and distress, who is tolerant, always satisfied, self-controlled, and engaged in devotional service with determination, his mind and intelligence fixed on Me — such a devotee of Mine is very dear to Me"
I still cant believe that so many muslims read miracles into the Quran.. I agree there are beautiful things in the Quran... I AGREE. But I am not going to read in miracles.. like..."the positions of the stars....= There is a black hole in the universe acting as a vacuum... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU END UO THERE??? HOW????!!??!??!??!??! FUCKING COCK.
Great video, thanks for the effort! For those with an open & inquisitive mind...you'll see the virtue & truth within...but for those with a defiant & stubborn nature...you will deify & disbelieve the truth even if its right in front of your eyes ;)
this is no miracle... i cant believe u are reading miracles into the quran..... and the dramatic music doesnt do any wonders either... If the quran said.. thereis a black whole which sucks in everything ... ... i wud be impressed... seriously... wake up.
@badinfluence1985 if you dont believe just get out of here and do something useful other than acting devilish trying to make us doubt! we will never doubt!! allah akbar!!
@hamooddyy You know that Islam is a man-made religion, right? Apparently not. You also know that Mohammed is one of the false prophets that were foretold, right? Apparently not. It's not too late to accept truth, that is, that Jesus died for your sins. Jesus is God in the flesh. Islam is a justification of all of the innocent people that you guys slay daily. Don't believe me? Visit bestgore.com and watch your people in action.
@onsproductionz dude really i feel sorry for you. you are blind and will never understand that bible and torah are changed. the fact that they wanna prove Islam to be false is that Islam works against the crusader and jewish trade and business because it says lending someone money and count interrest is a sin and many other points.in quran the planets were mentioned too and much more. the black holes were mentioned too. plus we believe in jezus too but he is not god he is a prophet of god.
@hamooddyy I feel much worse for you. Jesus is God in the flesh, and you will find that out one day, hopefully not too late. Forget the bible, the bible is an instruction manual for how to live in today's world. Every day is writing a new verse, the Quran was founded by Satan to stray people from Jesus, and the world will one day know that. Not just the Quran, Buddhism, Llamaism, Scientology, Morman, and all the others are distractions meant to confuse people.
@hamooddyy sERIOUSLY MATE.... lORD kRISHNA SAYS IN THE GITA... "wITH A SINGLE FRAGMENT OF mYSELF i PERVADE AND SUPPORT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE"..... now that is a verse you have never heard of.... a miracle in our scripture would be the mention of planets... the horoscopes, the benefits of yoga, the prediction of things which occur now... murthees (u call them idols) drinking milk all around the world... ur miracle. is like..."look up at the stars..."... nice try.
@badinfluence1985 i am sorry to tell you this but everyone must become muslim if they dont wanna be burned. because there is no god but god and Mohammed peace be upon him is his last prophet. he brought the last message of god because all previous religions were modified for their own interrest. only Islam remained the same. in one verse said god in quran that he is capable of making people resurrect, even the very fingertips will be recreated.
@badinfluence1985 at the time nobody knew that every human being has his own unique fingertip. plus there are many other miracles you can watch them. it was also mentioned that a fetus grows up in three phases. many others if you keep barking till the end of time you won't change this tremendous great belief of ours. we are the righteous swords of allah that set things straight and make end to the injustice cause buy jews and crusaders.
The Quran in surah 18:86 I found the place where the sun sets ,and it sets in mud. The Quran in surah 88:20 says earth flat. In surah 22:65 allah holds up the sky or if would fall on your head. Surah 27 ants talked to Soloman. Surah says mans semon is made in his backbone and rib bones.Surah 67 When you see a shooting star thats when allah zaps a demon.This book is not the work of God but 7th century human supperstition. Show me 1 verse that supports modern science.
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Does anybody really buy this? After twisting the definitions of the words and drawing together disconnected passages the description achieved still doesn't come remotely near describing a black hole.
A wonderful exercise in self-deception it would seem.
Quran is a way of live, any book of embryology will write verses of quran in it is preface regarding the development of the foetus so accurate, quran has more answers to so many scientific questions, but the problem is that we (MUSLIMS) have not played our role by studying science and comparing it to quran verses, if we did, we would have extracted profound scientific meanings from the HOLY QURAN
If you base your allegiance to a religion which has preceded science in ancient times, then you should all be Buddhists.
1. The Buddha said that there are many world systems, each with it's own particular laws, lifespans, perceptions. ie: time is relative and dependent upon the world system.
2. All things are empty. ie: atoms are almost completely empty space, furthermore, there is no single essence to anything. "things" depend on other things to exist conceptually as well as in reality.
time is relative to the perceiver and the context in which the perceiver is perceiving time. ie: where the person is, and how fast he/she is moving determines that person's time realm.
"things" depend on other things to exist. A spoon can't exist independently of other things. A spoon was made by a person, who manipulated metal, found by others in the ground from the creation of Earth which was created in the Solar system etc...all the way to the big bang. Then people gave it a name "spoon".
in no ambiguous terms the sutras explain many aspects of existence which scientists today are starting to see. The Quran, however, uses interpretative and ambiguous language which requires vast effort to conform its meaning to current science. Much like people who find numbers in the Bible to predict things...u can look & find any meaning u want in old books which are ambiguous. The sutras tell u to ur face how things are with no hidden language. What is so confusing about "emptiness"? Nothing.
Wow, you Muslims are really trying hard to justify your religion. Let's see what the Quran says about the Multiverse and Evolution and parallel universes...oh yeah - nothing.
One thing I don't understand with religious books are they are so mysterious. On one hand the books explain how you should live your life in the most simpleton language. Then when it comes to real scientific information they suddenly become so cryptic that we have to figure it out after science explains with real data and facts. Then we look at the religious book and try to decipher the cryptic language to show it too is scientific. I want something these books explain that is not yet discovered
@Jyrki1964 if there were more than one god than everything would have worked according to different rules and they would've disagreed on things as often happens if there are more than one creaters of anything.
Not necessarly! One can still conceive a group of gods being enough wise to realize conflict would be counter-productive.
Mind you, along with order and harmony in our Universe, disorder and disasters are also present, so i don't think polytheism hypothesis should be ruled out that hastily.
@silveren777 There is only one God Allah, the merciful. I would argue that it is human nature to worship one God. We all have a sense of the creator and a need to worship him. Islam makes sense to me because it does not make an image of God (Allah), as I believe in my heart we cannot comprehend his form. Pagan religions are clearly manmade (eg:Hinduisim with monkey headed gods and elephant headed gods.) There is only one God Allah swt.
Luckily i was born in a country that never forced anyone of us to believe just one religion. We had a choice. I decided that no religion is worth of paying attention.
@Jyrki1964 What are you refering to? No one is cut bescause of minor incidence; although under Islamic rules banks wouldn't have been able to defruad economy of so may counteries and there wouldn't be usuary like interest payements etc; thats the reason Islam is being targeted and shown as a bad influence.
@Jyrki1964 yeah.. You are stupid ( BAD words ) --- Only Stupid GUY say Stupid to other guy--- Please lol.. Be polite.. We are humans- we dont know averythings.. so when some one says to other one stupid, it means you are the god .. so please to all muslims- dont have to tell about god to GOD..
which is even with today's technologies is almost impossible to calculate. And finally there is very interesting stone picture on these pyramids where flying objects, helicopters, and other satellites had been sculptured. It is something hidden from wide society.
yes I just watched the video about aliens yesterday. They said that in Quran they said they the gods and they came from Sirius stars. In addition in Bible and pictures with jesus there is a lot of pictures with flying sauces and etc. And finally the pyramids was definitely wasn't built by humans, because its not only tells how many days per year, that it is in the center of the Earth, but it reveals many more earth measurements such as curvature. So I think there is something.
@ davidminas1: there is no point trying to reason with someone that is clearly immature. You are speaking of things that you know nothing about. you are just an ignorant coward and would never say these things in public.
Deangelofaser: what do you really know about the Quran? its easy to say there is nothing in it, when you havent read it. If you were really muslim, then you would know the opening verse and what it says? how can you say that you can debunk what makes a human, or stars or the earth? how did you come to the conclusion that you are an expert? is this how ignorant you are? Can you use google to perform heart surgery? the same goes with saying a hold book is fake they both need years to understand...
@ Matt55481: Islam is about faith as well as proof. It is the only holy book that has not been changed by people, it is the true word of God and it is memorised across the world in its original form and language. The proof is in verses such as the ones mentioned above. It is not 'cryptic' If you took some time to read the holy Quran you would understand it. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that Islam is false, when you clearly have not understood the religion...
MASHA ALLAH, Nice work brother.... I wish we have astronomers like we had in past ... and we do all research based on QURAN... it would have kept us ahead of other.. MAY ALLAH HELP US understand and gain ground in science & other areas.
Its always amusing to see allah talks in codes instead of saying directly what he means,and whats more amusing how the muslims try so hard to prove that the quran is the word of allah,quran got nothing in it,nothing miraculous,and to add even more nothing moral,note here before you embark me with attacks i was muslim until i reached the age of reason,atheist YES I AM,reply if you want and i will debunk any so called miracles with evidence unlike your religion you have to take it on faith,cheers
@Cednaj9 What am i blind to,can you please be more elaborate,and tell me what you mean,plus as mentioned bring me anything and i will debunk to you with ease and evidence,cheers love and respect
haha acting denial ! some of wt u said is absoultely not true in our translations and the rest is unaccurate translations 4 people before these descoviries existed in science but what u have right now is absolutley accurate so y denying ?
@yildirimjo As it is with the same for science in the Bible, modified translations with modern synonyms for ancient words, wishful interpretations of poetic phrases and wild associations with modern knowledge. For example, when God sent down the scriptures, nobody connects it to spaceships (I hope..), but when He sent down iron (57:25), it came from outer space. Obviously "sent down" means "made available", nothing "scientific" at all!
The book of Enoch spoke of black holes time travel 1000's years before all and no I do not believe in the bible Jesus is Serapis bey the term bey come from the Turks meaning lord
what has the bible got thats WORTH stealing . if you google stories similar to jesus like dionysis youll see who did the stealing dionysis was born dec25 from god and virgin ,crucified , rose 3rd day ect ect see other stories all are there from bible like the fig tree story . greks started xtianty to get greeks to join new religion they had to put in this stuff and trinity cos they were too used to it and wunt giv it up in 325ad nicea bible was put together and jesus WAS VOTED to be god
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Amazing. Loved the video. Thanks very much brother. I am fascinated by your video. Jazaka allahu khairan, and may Allah bless u enshaa allah.. Thanks again
@GTCism You are one of a kind if you think it's demonic. But I did find that one song, near the ending, it started pretty abruptly and loudly so maybe you are actually referring to that. And not all the audio was songs, there were intervals where the brother put passages of the noble Quran (the Holy Scripture of Muslims) recited by Sheikh Qari Abdul Basit 'Abd us-Samad and Saad Al-Ghamdi. For your argument of "stolen scripture", /watch?v=mmD8xCvWNFA /watch?v=p-BUQNEeEB0
black holes are invisible quran is so accurate while bible talks out of its arse... written by jews who hated palestinians read stories you can tell only a RETARD thinks god wrote it. xtians say praying fasting ect is showing ingratitude to jesus sacrifice so dont pray ect just what devil tells you to do plus if jesus knew hell come alive iin 2 days then how is there self sacrifice what did he sacrifice if he came baCK TO LIFE...
The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by arrogantly invoking itself as its own written authority!
Islam prohibits it's people to use their capacities to the full for the mankind.
One exception is John Ilhan, a turkish immigrant, who establishled Crazy John's mobile phone retail chain in Australia. He was a devoted family man. In islam belief.
Yes. We did in our history find other ways to avoid those arabic camel fuckers, that were in the middle of prosperous spice trade. That's one reason Europeans started to build ships, that can travel to India without never dealing with arabs.
Bad luck indeed. They had oil. We could have been more civilized, but it was in the hands of John D. Rockefeller and Anglo-Persian Oil Company, which later became British Petroleum.
They didn't care about natives. They were sand monkeys.
Fantastic, I suggest that the Quran be translated by a panel of super specialist with almost every stream of knowldge, as the Allah has expanded the knowldge beyond the capacity of a single person, so if every verse is evaluated by different fields , then discussed , a much more comprehensive understanding could be raeched.
Nobody following Muhammad's instructions have ever gained a Nobel prize.
However jewish people have gained about over 100 Nobels. Not because of jewish belief, but because of progress. Jewish people believe in progress, just like christians and me.
Those verses are so vague you could retrofit them to dozens of phenomena. It would have been sooooo easy to make them more clear. Nostradamus is more specific than the Quran.
I saw another video claiming 86:1-3 was a pulsar. What a slovenly mess of a book. Muslims can't even agree on it.
Thus, as i said, you select the interpretation you want among many different ones, then you wonder how the Quran author could know about black holes.
That's why such "scientific miracles" aren't credible. It's really easy to reinterpret something after the fact, but harder before it.
If Quran did intend to deal with black holes, it'd be clearer about them even before scientists discover them; in that case, that'd be more convincing!
@silveren777: Quran started with the first revelation with the word READ. Throughout the whole Quran God is asking mankind many questions to wake up human thinking process. Quran is not a book of SCIENCE. It is book of SIGNS. God wants us to explore the creation with the thinking brain He has given us and find out truth about God. God said these are the signs for those who inquire. If every thing had to be spoon fed then it would not be a place of test, hence there was NO need of thinking mind.
Nice justification but it leads to pressupose that the Quran is a book of sign to reinterpret the Quran to make it talk about modern, scientific concepts to prove it contains signs.
Thus, circular reasoning. Is there anything miraculous in this fallacy?
The only way to know if the Quran intends to mention some "scientific truths" is that those verses must be clear before the fact, science book or not. (if it isn't, why does it contains "scientific miracles" in the 1st place?)
(continued) would this prevent people from thinking? i don't think so, since rational people would want to test Quran's scientific predictions anyway. And the success of the latters would have been a sign, even if the verses weren't as meticulously detailled as a science book.
I'm sorry but there are no signs in vaticinium ex eventu arguments, hence the whole concept of scientific miracles in the Quran is BS.
Regarding Khunnas, many have understood the term sweeping as a metaphoric for stars movement in the sky, just like in English when we say "it sweeps across the sky" and hidden because the stars doesn't show up the day.
As for tariq, little reading on quran exegesis would teach a great subtilities of arabic language stars are called tariq because they come at night, by analogy of a person coming at night who must knock at the door to get the permission to enter.
@silveren777 If you re-read the verse At-Tariq again, you will notice that the verse itself tells you what a t-Tariq is, it says : At-Tariq is a piercing Star. Both descriptions "Knocker" and "Piercing" are known for the Black Hole, which is a fallen Star.
And the verses are there since 1420 years, but humans can't really tell the exact meanings, not because the words are difficult to understand, but because they didn't have the ability and devices to discover the true meanings behind them.
The word 'thaqib' in the verse, that's translated as 'piercing', lexically refer to both literal and figurate meanings of percing, as in English when you say "a percing light" = a light 'percing' darkness by its high luminosity.
Arab people also used the adjective 'thabiq' when talking about light emitting object.
You're begging the question: how do you know a priori that the intended meaning of verses is scientific, and not unscientific or somthing else? They were well understood in the context of the 7th century...
Such justification could even be used to defend any "sucessful" pophecies: "his texts looked obscure before the event X bcz ppl didn't experience it to understand the real meaning of them".
The 'miracle' here is a well-known trick called shoehorning.
@silveren777 Again, the meaning is clear enough, but the people can't prove anything because of the lack of the devices. All what they understand is that there is a star that knock and pierce in heaven, and they accept that and believe that, but they didn't prove anything to know its deep DETAILS. This is what makes the Quran a miracle even after 1420 years, where even today scientists get surprised of such signs. Remember, the Quran doesn't teach science, but a book of signs.
What quran exegetes used to understand from this verse is rather a star coming at night and that pierces darkness by its light (BTW, i explained all this but somehow you didn't considered my arguments). You need to read classical exegeses, and to know the potential translations/meanings of relevant arabic words, before jumping to the conclusion of a scientific miracle.
@silveren777 And what if I told you that I studied arabic at Vienna University and have a Magistrate ? So I don't need a translation at all, the meanings is as easy as A B C , If the translation is as you think : a Star that shine at night and pierce the darkness with its light, it will be a very laughable meaning, because Allah wanted Muhammed (a.s.) to pay attention to this special star, by asking him : And do you know what at-Tariq means, after swearing by this star.
It could refer to an unique star while being understandable in the 7th century, for instance according to exegetes al Tariq could refer to Venus or any bright star. Or it could even refer to all stars. That's the words of quran scholars, not mine.
Everyone know they come at night and hide during the day, yes; so what? That doesn't prove the majority of classical exegetes' interpretation of this verse is ridiculous.
@silveren777 I will agree with you if this two words haven't been mentioned in the same chapter for this one star that God wanted to show as a sign, two simple words describe this star "Knocker" and "piercing", while the word star or stars have been mentioned in other several chapters with no such descriptions. What leads us to believe that the black whole is meant in this verse ? Because the similarity of both adjectives. CONTINUE...
They is no miraculous coincidence by the use of those words:
Although taken literally, they would make the verse sound like a scientific anticipation, Arabs ALSO used (and still use) them to talk about a star.
Also, the fact the Quran, in other occurence of the word 'star', doesn't call them both thaqib and tariq (although it describe meteors as piercing brightness thaqib) isn't really significant to lead to your interpretations.
@silveren777 Wrong, from where did you know that arabs use the words Thaqib and Tariq for a star ? You can clearly understand from the verse that a star with the name Tariq is something that has never been used for a star before after you notice that God asks Muhammed " What do you know about the Tariq? ". And for your information, it is wrong by the SUNNA and GAMA'a to interpret a word in Quran different than its literal meaning, except when the prophet himself does that.
For staters, al Tariq, in a figurative sense, means something/someone that comes at night. As you can see, this is not specific, so the Quran tell you what it is. Again, this is consistent with my view
Oh, Arabs never used those 2 words when talking about stars? Just open Lane's Lexicon.
@silveren777 At-Tariq can be used to anyone/anything who/which knocks, no matter in which time. So if I knock a door at 1:00 PM , the people inside that house will ask : Who is the Tariq (the knocker), because I knocked. Tariq imeans simply KNOCKER.
And if arabs used Tariq and Thaqib for the star, it is just because the Quran mentioned this two words to a star. I am close to arabs and have been between arabs, no single arab calls a star a Tariq, it is called Najm (star).
Look at an Arabic-English dictionary or lexicon (lane Lexicon) and you'll see 'knocker' isn't the only meaning conveyed by the active participle Al Tariq,
....Unless you think dictionnary writers and classical exegetes were written by people who don't know what they are talking about.
@silveren777 Even if the word Knocker has more than one meaning, all this meanings are correct if we explain it to the stars. If it means "The star that is visible for us at night only" or if it means the literal meaning "Knocker" both are correct. But the verses in this chapter are clearly talking about a special and specific star that other stars can't match, by understanding the ideology of the Quran.. Continue..
Yes, these meanings don't create any contradictions between the Quran and Science, but this fact is not proof they were choosed to match science.
''clearly talking about a special and specific star that other stars can't match'
Not neccesarly. And even if we suppose this is the case, the verse could refer to a particularly bright star in the visible sky; it's thus useless to invoke modern scientific concepts here.
you cant know the jets are travling 50 times the speed of light anything faster than light and you would not ever see it to measure its distance / time
iloveconcord 2 days ago
@matrix007007007 what religion are you?
RiZaRaKizTa 3 days ago
@GoodBadUglyest!
Your Christ was also a crook and phony! They did all of this for the political reasons, because they wanted to keep the power.
I dont believe any of them! I just believe in my God!
matrix007007007 6 days ago
Quite a few of the referances to "science" in the Qu'ran were already proposed by the ancient Greeks. For example, there was a Greek named Eratosthenes of Cyrene who calculated the Earth was rounded before the quran was revealed and another, Aristarchus of Samos, who said the Earth revolves around the sun.
quzofrommycoke 1 week ago
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iloveconcord 2 weeks ago
Mohammed was greatly attracted to Blackholes. Was it due to gravity?
0kz23bk011alv 3 weeks ago
Lies. Anyone can make false assumtions and corellate it to whatever you want . This video is nothing more than propaganda. Christ is Lord!
GoodBadUglyest 3 weeks ago
@ badinfluence1985 you're right. keep it up :-)
the only true god is the all pervasive one!
the one beyond name, form, and being! the one that is Just, the Law without effort
megamorphg 3 weeks ago
سبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظيم. رب السماوات و رب العرش العظيم.
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The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
For obvious reasons the word "philosophy" is never mentioned in the koran !
sardanapolis 3 weeks ago
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The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority !
becharev 4 weeks ago
@Jyrki1964 what do we know that says that god can't exist? We know nothing which proves that and we never will, because god DOES exist.
eleventwentyone21 1 month ago
@eleventwentyone21 argument works both ways, except from your standpoint it seems silly. Believing in what you can see and interact with is using your brain. Believing in something you can't see, can't feel, taste, touch smell, hear or anything else, that's ludicrous.
TheBrownies0wn 2 weeks ago
BORING BUT INTERESTING
kiddinglikeulovingme 1 month ago
Wow this was a ridiculous stretch if I ever saw one.
junaidnx 1 month ago
"There is no truth beyond Me. Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread" - Lord Krishna , Bhagavad Gita........ and btw... Krishna says "I am" and "My" and "me".. throughout the Gita... He neevr says "our", "we" or "us"... xXx. Narayan, Naraayan, Narayan. That being you worship is none other than Krishna. He is all pervasive, he is fathomless he is manifest and he is unmanifest. He is ganesh, he is shiva, he is allah and He you and me, He is everywhere.
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
One who is not envious but is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor and is free from false ego, who is equal in both happiness and distress, who is tolerant, always satisfied, self-controlled, and engaged in devotional service with determination, his mind and intelligence fixed on Me — such a devotee of Mine is very dear to Me
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
I don't believe in any gods. There are no gods. Gods don't fit into the equation of the universe we now know a lot. Actually we don't know a lot, but enough to say there cannot be gods.
Jyrki1964 1 month ago
The god thesis fails. Your god, their god everyone's god. Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Thor (oh, sorry Thor is true, Thorsday you know and his papa, Wodensday).
gulsbyjag 1 month ago
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We need to rid the world of Islam (the religion, not people). Your 'belief' is a fucking virus contaminating innocent people. How can you not realize that Muslim is evil? Open your fucking eyes!! You kill, rape and pillage your own people and everyone else. News flash!: Islam is a man-made contradictary 'religion'!! You can kill your wife legally in your country?! You can kill people for utilizing freedom of speech, what the fuck? Abolish Islam/Mohammed 2012, WHO'S WITH ME??!!?!
onsproductionz 1 month ago
i enjoied reading it, but i couldn't do it with the "music" ..
Slipknlov 1 month ago
The failures of God. 1). God was lonely so he created man for companionship. Why didn't he just create a wife for himself? 2). Some of his angels rebelled, one became the Devil. 3). Almost all of the people went bad so God flooded the whole earth, with Noah to save two of everything (oh, why couldn't he just have left mosquitos behind?). 4). Even after the flood and the ten commandments, those created in his perfect image had to have a human sacrifice to pay their 'debt' to God.
gulsbyjag 1 month ago
@gulsbyjag All your questions are conjecture depicting your own life maybe but not God.
onlyparadise 1 month ago
@onlyparadise Show me god.
gulsbyjag 1 month ago
@gulsbyjag Believe me there is to need to see God ... similarly there is no need to see Anti-Matter, Anti-Qurak, Anti-Electron etc ... But every mentioned thing does exist
onlyparadise 1 month ago
@onlyparadise And I'll bet that he is the god that you worship and not any of the gods that others worship?
gulsbyjag 1 month ago
@gulsbyjag Don't bet, u already lost ...
onlyparadise 1 month ago
@gulsbyjag what a ridicule question....it's called faith...some people wont' accept the righteous path even if the right way has shown to them...
swimma369 1 month ago
Why wouldnt God Himself state "there are black holes which act as a vacuum"?... if it is indeed talking about black holes.....
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
@badinfluence1985 God doesn't need to mention each and everything you need want to hear about ... Instead you need to do ALL your acts according to his commands
onlyparadise 1 month ago
@onlyparadise In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna "says One who is not envious but is a kind friend to all living entities, who does not think himself a proprietor and is free from false ego, who is equal in both happiness and distress, who is tolerant, always satisfied, self-controlled, and engaged in devotional service with determination, his mind and intelligence fixed on Me — such a devotee of Mine is very dear to Me"
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
@badinfluence1985 /watch?v=G4eI6-etsLw
onlyparadise 1 month ago
I still cant believe that so many muslims read miracles into the Quran.. I agree there are beautiful things in the Quran... I AGREE. But I am not going to read in miracles.. like..."the positions of the stars....= There is a black hole in the universe acting as a vacuum... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU END UO THERE??? HOW????!!??!??!??!??! FUCKING COCK.
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
Great video, thanks for the effort! For those with an open & inquisitive mind...you'll see the virtue & truth within...but for those with a defiant & stubborn nature...you will deify & disbelieve the truth even if its right in front of your eyes ;)
shinko111 1 month ago
this is no miracle... i cant believe u are reading miracles into the quran..... and the dramatic music doesnt do any wonders either... If the quran said.. thereis a black whole which sucks in everything ... ... i wud be impressed... seriously... wake up.
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
@badinfluence1985 if you dont believe just get out of here and do something useful other than acting devilish trying to make us doubt! we will never doubt!! allah akbar!!
hamooddyy 1 month ago
@hamooddyy You know that Islam is a man-made religion, right? Apparently not. You also know that Mohammed is one of the false prophets that were foretold, right? Apparently not. It's not too late to accept truth, that is, that Jesus died for your sins. Jesus is God in the flesh. Islam is a justification of all of the innocent people that you guys slay daily. Don't believe me? Visit bestgore.com and watch your people in action.
onsproductionz 1 month ago
@onsproductionz dude really i feel sorry for you. you are blind and will never understand that bible and torah are changed. the fact that they wanna prove Islam to be false is that Islam works against the crusader and jewish trade and business because it says lending someone money and count interrest is a sin and many other points.in quran the planets were mentioned too and much more. the black holes were mentioned too. plus we believe in jezus too but he is not god he is a prophet of god.
hamooddyy 1 month ago
@hamooddyy I feel much worse for you. Jesus is God in the flesh, and you will find that out one day, hopefully not too late. Forget the bible, the bible is an instruction manual for how to live in today's world. Every day is writing a new verse, the Quran was founded by Satan to stray people from Jesus, and the world will one day know that. Not just the Quran, Buddhism, Llamaism, Scientology, Morman, and all the others are distractions meant to confuse people.
onsproductionz 1 month ago
@onsproductionz Pity upon your destructed brain .... God isn't matter (flesh), Matter (flesh) isn't God ... Period
onlyparadise 1 month ago
@onsproductionz well Islam cant be written by the devil any book telling people to behead you crusaders is a good and godly religion.
hamooddyy 1 month ago
@hamooddyy sERIOUSLY MATE.... lORD kRISHNA SAYS IN THE GITA... "wITH A SINGLE FRAGMENT OF mYSELF i PERVADE AND SUPPORT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE"..... now that is a verse you have never heard of.... a miracle in our scripture would be the mention of planets... the horoscopes, the benefits of yoga, the prediction of things which occur now... murthees (u call them idols) drinking milk all around the world... ur miracle. is like..."look up at the stars..."... nice try.
badinfluence1985 1 month ago
@badinfluence1985 i am sorry to tell you this but everyone must become muslim if they dont wanna be burned. because there is no god but god and Mohammed peace be upon him is his last prophet. he brought the last message of god because all previous religions were modified for their own interrest. only Islam remained the same. in one verse said god in quran that he is capable of making people resurrect, even the very fingertips will be recreated.
hamooddyy 1 month ago
@badinfluence1985 at the time nobody knew that every human being has his own unique fingertip. plus there are many other miracles you can watch them. it was also mentioned that a fetus grows up in three phases. many others if you keep barking till the end of time you won't change this tremendous great belief of ours. we are the righteous swords of allah that set things straight and make end to the injustice cause buy jews and crusaders.
hamooddyy 1 month ago
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The Quran in surah 18:86 I found the place where the sun sets ,and it sets in mud. The Quran in surah 88:20 says earth flat. In surah 22:65 allah holds up the sky or if would fall on your head. Surah 27 ants talked to Soloman. Surah says mans semon is made in his backbone and rib bones.Surah 67 When you see a shooting star thats when allah zaps a demon.This book is not the work of God but 7th century human supperstition. Show me 1 verse that supports modern science.
85Damix 1 month ago
السلام عليكم
DrSAMIRABBAS 1 month ago
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tigersforchrist 1 month ago
@tigersforchrist YOUR NAME SAYS IT ALL YOU DUMB LOSER
MsZarahussain 1 month ago
@MsZarahussain Sounds like you're the loser, you believe in a man-made religion and a false prophet.
onsproductionz 1 month ago
@tigersforchrist Amen
onsproductionz 1 month ago
Jesus, these Muslims are grasping at straws. Hell, most of the supposed 1.5 Billion of them have no freaking idea that blacks holes exist.
Balstrome1 1 month ago
come on be serious.
chilled99 1 month ago
Does anybody really buy this? After twisting the definitions of the words and drawing together disconnected passages the description achieved still doesn't come remotely near describing a black hole.
A wonderful exercise in self-deception it would seem.
walkytalky1000 1 month ago
Quran is a way of live, any book of embryology will write verses of quran in it is preface regarding the development of the foetus so accurate, quran has more answers to so many scientific questions, but the problem is that we (MUSLIMS) have not played our role by studying science and comparing it to quran verses, if we did, we would have extracted profound scientific meanings from the HOLY QURAN
lesonen1 2 months ago
@lesonen1
Putting those verses in embryology textbook would be an exercice of futility since they are too general.
silveren777 1 month ago
wow
KASHLAMDA 2 months ago
If you base your allegiance to a religion which has preceded science in ancient times, then you should all be Buddhists.
1. The Buddha said that there are many world systems, each with it's own particular laws, lifespans, perceptions. ie: time is relative and dependent upon the world system.
2. All things are empty. ie: atoms are almost completely empty space, furthermore, there is no single essence to anything. "things" depend on other things to exist conceptually as well as in reality.
matreyia 2 months ago
time is relative to the perceiver and the context in which the perceiver is perceiving time. ie: where the person is, and how fast he/she is moving determines that person's time realm.
"things" depend on other things to exist. A spoon can't exist independently of other things. A spoon was made by a person, who manipulated metal, found by others in the ground from the creation of Earth which was created in the Solar system etc...all the way to the big bang. Then people gave it a name "spoon".
matreyia 2 months ago
in no ambiguous terms the sutras explain many aspects of existence which scientists today are starting to see. The Quran, however, uses interpretative and ambiguous language which requires vast effort to conform its meaning to current science. Much like people who find numbers in the Bible to predict things...u can look & find any meaning u want in old books which are ambiguous. The sutras tell u to ur face how things are with no hidden language. What is so confusing about "emptiness"? Nothing.
matreyia 2 months ago
Wow, you Muslims are really trying hard to justify your religion. Let's see what the Quran says about the Multiverse and Evolution and parallel universes...oh yeah - nothing.
matreyia 2 months ago
@adocflicts......who is the reciter who does so in a manner that is sort of singing? its more tarteel but i would like to hear more.
ArmEdR0bbErY 2 months ago
One thing I don't understand with religious books are they are so mysterious. On one hand the books explain how you should live your life in the most simpleton language. Then when it comes to real scientific information they suddenly become so cryptic that we have to figure it out after science explains with real data and facts. Then we look at the religious book and try to decipher the cryptic language to show it too is scientific. I want something these books explain that is not yet discovered
TonyBroncos 2 months ago
@kessass83 the people long time ago had better and more knowledge than present day it doesn't translate to aliens; only one Allah created everything.
missnoorulain1 2 months ago
@missnoorulain1
What. Only one?
Explain me how.
Jyrki1964 2 months ago
@Jyrki1964 if there were more than one god than everything would have worked according to different rules and they would've disagreed on things as often happens if there are more than one creaters of anything.
missnoorulain1 2 months ago
@missnoorulain1
Not necessarly! One can still conceive a group of gods being enough wise to realize conflict would be counter-productive.
Mind you, along with order and harmony in our Universe, disorder and disasters are also present, so i don't think polytheism hypothesis should be ruled out that hastily.
silveren777 2 months ago
@silveren777 There is only one God Allah, the merciful. I would argue that it is human nature to worship one God. We all have a sense of the creator and a need to worship him. Islam makes sense to me because it does not make an image of God (Allah), as I believe in my heart we cannot comprehend his form. Pagan religions are clearly manmade (eg:Hinduisim with monkey headed gods and elephant headed gods.) There is only one God Allah swt.
KnightCrawler2 2 months ago
@KnightCrawler2
You're only making a statement of faith with baseless assertions.
silveren777 2 months ago
@silveren777 Each to their own.
missnoorulain1 2 months ago
@missnoorulain1
What's wrong with different rules?
Luckily i was born in a country that never forced anyone of us to believe just one religion. We had a choice. I decided that no religion is worth of paying attention.
Science has proved that the are no gods.
FUCK all gods. JESUS, ALLAH... whatever.
Jyrki1964 2 months ago
@Jyrki1964 how did science prove that god doesn't exist, you own no reason?
as i remember science explain how and not why.
science can explain how a spermatozoone go to the ovum, but it never explain why he go to the ovum.
you are a troll don't you?
also jesus is not a god.
randomguyalwayshere 2 months ago
@Jyrki1964 How has science proved that? Science has proved that evolution is a myth therefore there has got to be a creator.
missnoorulain1 2 months ago
@missnoorulain1
What creator? Who? Where?
What is the origin of that creator?
Jyrki1964 1 month ago
@missnoorulain1
You have a problem. We do not want to be ruled by islamic orders. We do not want people be cutted because of some minor incidence.
There is no allah.. just one life... Wasted for so many....
Jyrki1964 2 months ago
@Jyrki1964 What are you refering to? No one is cut bescause of minor incidence; although under Islamic rules banks wouldn't have been able to defruad economy of so may counteries and there wouldn't be usuary like interest payements etc; thats the reason Islam is being targeted and shown as a bad influence.
missnoorulain1 2 months ago
@missnoorulain1
Yeah ... You are stupid.. You think Allah has its fingers everywhere... Many times in completedly stupid places.
What Alla? Who where?... Modern science has enlighted us with Supernovas, Blue Giants, Quasars, Pulsars, Neutron Stars. Sun flares. etc
What does muslim people know that?
Nothing
Jyrki1964 2 months ago
@Jyrki1964 yeah.. You are stupid ( BAD words ) --- Only Stupid GUY say Stupid to other guy--- Please lol.. Be polite.. We are humans- we dont know averythings.. so when some one says to other one stupid, it means you are the god .. so please to all muslims- dont have to tell about god to GOD..
u2bkarat 2 months ago
@u2bkarat
Oh fuck you.
How many inventions muslim world have achieved let's say in 1000 years.
Answer is : 0
They have a fucked up religion.
Jyrki1964 2 months ago
@Jyrki1964 you will burn in hell
hamooddyy 1 month ago
@hamooddyy
No. There is no hell.
I don't believe in gods.
Do you?
Why?
Jyrki1964 1 month ago
@missnoorulain1
So you are not happy with different rules?
Do you think that rules cannot be ever changed?
Jyrki1964 1 month ago
which is even with today's technologies is almost impossible to calculate. And finally there is very interesting stone picture on these pyramids where flying objects, helicopters, and other satellites had been sculptured. It is something hidden from wide society.
kessass83 2 months ago
yes I just watched the video about aliens yesterday. They said that in Quran they said they the gods and they came from Sirius stars. In addition in Bible and pictures with jesus there is a lot of pictures with flying sauces and etc. And finally the pyramids was definitely wasn't built by humans, because its not only tells how many days per year, that it is in the center of the Earth, but it reveals many more earth measurements such as curvature. So I think there is something.
kessass83 2 months ago
@ davidminas1: there is no point trying to reason with someone that is clearly immature. You are speaking of things that you know nothing about. you are just an ignorant coward and would never say these things in public.
hanad276 2 months ago
Deangelofaser: what do you really know about the Quran? its easy to say there is nothing in it, when you havent read it. If you were really muslim, then you would know the opening verse and what it says? how can you say that you can debunk what makes a human, or stars or the earth? how did you come to the conclusion that you are an expert? is this how ignorant you are? Can you use google to perform heart surgery? the same goes with saying a hold book is fake they both need years to understand...
hanad276 2 months ago
@ Matt55481: Islam is about faith as well as proof. It is the only holy book that has not been changed by people, it is the true word of God and it is memorised across the world in its original form and language. The proof is in verses such as the ones mentioned above. It is not 'cryptic' If you took some time to read the holy Quran you would understand it. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that Islam is false, when you clearly have not understood the religion...
hanad276 2 months ago
Gotta love how you guys hate science, then when you find something scientific which could parallel your beliefs, you're suddenly accepting of it.
kossxf 2 months ago
I am Arab muslim from madina my native language is arabic mashallah great video
it is true what is said in this video it just prove out of many prove that islam is the only right religion Al hamdullah I am muslim Allahu Akbar
x2maconaers 2 months ago
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83leaf 2 months ago
MASHA ALLAH, Nice work brother.... I wish we have astronomers like we had in past ... and we do all research based on QURAN... it would have kept us ahead of other.. MAY ALLAH HELP US understand and gain ground in science & other areas.
inamulbashir 2 months ago
Its always amusing to see allah talks in codes instead of saying directly what he means,and whats more amusing how the muslims try so hard to prove that the quran is the word of allah,quran got nothing in it,nothing miraculous,and to add even more nothing moral,note here before you embark me with attacks i was muslim until i reached the age of reason,atheist YES I AM,reply if you want and i will debunk any so called miracles with evidence unlike your religion you have to take it on faith,cheers
deangelofaser 3 months ago
@deangelofaser You are just so blind aren't you?
Cednaj9 2 months ago
@Cednaj9 What am i blind to,can you please be more elaborate,and tell me what you mean,plus as mentioned bring me anything and i will debunk to you with ease and evidence,cheers love and respect
deangelofaser 2 months ago
UFO describe Qur'an
ironbiceps 3 months ago
alkhonnas aljawaree alkonnas is the only verse talking about black holes ...
yildirimjo 3 months ago
@yildirimjo What Surrah/verse number is "alkhonnas aljawaree alkonnas"? Please let me know and I will check it.
Thermospecialist 3 months ago
quran 81:15
81:16
it's surat altakweer my friend
the explanation in ur inbox
yildirimjo 2 months ago
53:1 A "falling star" is a meteorite burning up in the atmosphere!
56:74(75) And I swear by the falling stars.
56:75 (76) Chapter 56's name is "Event" and the event is Armageddon, that's the oath!
The rest is more BS.
Chapter 81's name is "wrapping up" (al takwir) and is about Armageddon - nix black holes!
Chapter 86 says nothing of the kind; it's name, "Morning Star" and 86:3 says the Glittering Star (Venus)!
"Can you fly? NO, can a stone fly? NO, "the Quran" sais you are a stone!
Thermospecialist 3 months ago
@Thermospecialist
haha acting denial ! some of wt u said is absoultely not true in our translations and the rest is unaccurate translations 4 people before these descoviries existed in science but what u have right now is absolutley accurate so y denying ?
yildirimjo 3 months ago
@yildirimjo As it is with the same for science in the Bible, modified translations with modern synonyms for ancient words, wishful interpretations of poetic phrases and wild associations with modern knowledge. For example, when God sent down the scriptures, nobody connects it to spaceships (I hope..), but when He sent down iron (57:25), it came from outer space. Obviously "sent down" means "made available", nothing "scientific" at all!
Thermospecialist 3 months ago
The book of Enoch spoke of black holes time travel 1000's years before all and no I do not believe in the bible Jesus is Serapis bey the term bey come from the Turks meaning lord
MrCarbonbase 3 months ago
I put the same message on my videos. Fits with red/blue katchina. Black hole looks blue then red as it passes. I quote Qur'an same thing. Friend me!
consternation1962 3 months ago
what has the bible got thats WORTH stealing . if you google stories similar to jesus like dionysis youll see who did the stealing dionysis was born dec25 from god and virgin ,crucified , rose 3rd day ect ect see other stories all are there from bible like the fig tree story . greks started xtianty to get greeks to join new religion they had to put in this stuff and trinity cos they were too used to it and wunt giv it up in 325ad nicea bible was put together and jesus WAS VOTED to be god
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bortelliM 3 months ago
This is evidence that religion makes people delusional.
mentalphysicalism 4 months ago
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Fuck you and Fuck your fake nonexistent god. Your just as bad as the Christians.
teamhex 4 months ago
Amazing. Loved the video. Thanks very much brother. I am fascinated by your video. Jazaka allahu khairan, and may Allah bless u enshaa allah.. Thanks again
ali5la9 4 months ago
Is the starting a part of a song? Please tell me what it it if so
TheAfg123786 4 months ago
Astonishing indeed. Subhan Allah
EMC2Documentaries 4 months ago
Anything you get out of the quarn is either an outright lie or a stolen scripture. Even the music that supports it sounds demonic.
GTCism 4 months ago
@GTCism You are one of a kind if you think it's demonic. But I did find that one song, near the ending, it started pretty abruptly and loudly so maybe you are actually referring to that. And not all the audio was songs, there were intervals where the brother put passages of the noble Quran (the Holy Scripture of Muslims) recited by Sheikh Qari Abdul Basit 'Abd us-Samad and Saad Al-Ghamdi. For your argument of "stolen scripture", /watch?v=mmD8xCvWNFA /watch?v=p-BUQNEeEB0
speaker is ZakirNaik
loiofnature 3 months ago
black holes are invisible quran is so accurate while bible talks out of its arse... written by jews who hated palestinians read stories you can tell only a RETARD thinks god wrote it. xtians say praying fasting ect is showing ingratitude to jesus sacrifice so dont pray ect just what devil tells you to do plus if jesus knew hell come alive iin 2 days then how is there self sacrifice what did he sacrifice if he came baCK TO LIFE...
sajakram1 4 months ago
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The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by arrogantly invoking itself as its own written authority!
hierostratus 4 months ago
Add something to it.
like 120 million years ago.
Jyrki1964 5 months ago
@Jyrki1964 maybe even more than 120 million years ago.who knows when God created all of this.non the less an awesome video
LilBlitz116 5 months ago
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Jyrki1964 5 months ago
shut up aeslam good
koko111531 5 months ago
what u need more the reality is crystal clear.. well there is no compulsion believe what u like try to be open minded :)
XhizorsmAs 5 months ago
All you do is to modify the words to the science of today. You add nothing to it.
I believe you, when you add something that explains something before we know about it.
Jyrki1964 5 months ago
There is no verse in Quran that say there is an invisible star. it's your interpretation.
Everything is just words that can be interpreted so many ways. There is no proof.
Just multiple meaning words.
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Jyrki1964 5 months ago
Islam prohibits it's people to use their capacities to the full for the mankind.
One exception is John Ilhan, a turkish immigrant, who establishled Crazy John's mobile phone retail chain in Australia. He was a devoted family man. In islam belief.
That man i really admire a lot.
Jyrki1964 5 months ago
So the muslim heaven is in the Gamma-stars?
Jyrki1964 6 months ago
It is all fake. Arabic language can be interpreted in so many ways. However nothing in these verses point to a black hole. Not even falling star.
As the matter of fact ancient arabs considered Halley's comet as a falling star.
Jyrki1964 6 months ago
@Jyrki1964 i wish they had no oil , Talk about bad luck .... Otherwise it would have been great seeing muslim nations living in stone age
djay00009 5 months ago
@djay00009
Yes. We did in our history find other ways to avoid those arabic camel fuckers, that were in the middle of prosperous spice trade. That's one reason Europeans started to build ships, that can travel to India without never dealing with arabs.
Bad luck indeed. They had oil. We could have been more civilized, but it was in the hands of John D. Rockefeller and Anglo-Persian Oil Company, which later became British Petroleum.
They didn't care about natives. They were sand monkeys.
Jyrki1964 5 months ago
@Jyrki1964
They were 1000 years back in evolution of a man. They stoned women for fun. They knew nothing about outside world.
Jyrki1964 5 months ago
It is all fake. Arabic language can be interpreted in so many ways. However nothing in these verses point to a black hole. Not even falling star.
Jyrki1964 6 months ago
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fortuna869 6 months ago
Fantastic, I suggest that the Quran be translated by a panel of super specialist with almost every stream of knowldge, as the Allah has expanded the knowldge beyond the capacity of a single person, so if every verse is evaluated by different fields , then discussed , a much more comprehensive understanding could be raeched.
medusaachla 6 months ago
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Jyrki1964 5 months ago
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@medusaachla
No need for that.
Question: What do we do with gods?
Aren't we gods in itself?
Nobody following Muhammad's instructions have ever gained a Nobel prize.
However jewish people have gained about over 100 Nobels. Not because of jewish belief, but because of progress. Jewish people believe in progress, just like christians and me.
Jyrki1964 5 months ago
@Jyrki1964 ahmad zuwail?
StrifeZack343 2 months ago
@StrifeZack343
Yes.
Ahmed Zewail is a professor in Caltech and ...
zewail.caltech.edu/
Jyrki1964 2 months ago
beautifull
911kratos 6 months ago
this video is great but if you are trying to attract non-Muslims try makin it simple.
Angelx2901 7 months ago
beautiful lines at starting of video ...
what are they called ???
can i get more of these ?
Umar52742 7 months ago
Gr8 work....God Only Knows.....May Almighty bestow upon those behind this video....
1234567890india 7 months ago
What a joke.
nexusxmoon 7 months ago
What the west think of Muhammad (saw) /watch?v=ma3PFNHuNjw
atheist2islam 7 months ago
Those verses are so vague you could retrofit them to dozens of phenomena. It would have been sooooo easy to make them more clear. Nostradamus is more specific than the Quran.
I saw another video claiming 86:1-3 was a pulsar. What a slovenly mess of a book. Muslims can't even agree on it.
OptimisticCynic715 8 months ago
Allahu Akbar !
Such powerful science !
becharev 9 months ago
Thus, as i said, you select the interpretation you want among many different ones, then you wonder how the Quran author could know about black holes.
That's why such "scientific miracles" aren't credible. It's really easy to reinterpret something after the fact, but harder before it.
If Quran did intend to deal with black holes, it'd be clearer about them even before scientists discover them; in that case, that'd be more convincing!
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777: Quran started with the first revelation with the word READ. Throughout the whole Quran God is asking mankind many questions to wake up human thinking process. Quran is not a book of SCIENCE. It is book of SIGNS. God wants us to explore the creation with the thinking brain He has given us and find out truth about God. God said these are the signs for those who inquire. If every thing had to be spoon fed then it would not be a place of test, hence there was NO need of thinking mind.
khooshkismat 9 months ago
@khooshkismat
Nice justification but it leads to pressupose that the Quran is a book of sign to reinterpret the Quran to make it talk about modern, scientific concepts to prove it contains signs.
Thus, circular reasoning. Is there anything miraculous in this fallacy?
The only way to know if the Quran intends to mention some "scientific truths" is that those verses must be clear before the fact, science book or not. (if it isn't, why does it contains "scientific miracles" in the 1st place?)
silveren777 9 months ago
@khooshkismat
(continued) would this prevent people from thinking? i don't think so, since rational people would want to test Quran's scientific predictions anyway. And the success of the latters would have been a sign, even if the verses weren't as meticulously detailled as a science book.
I'm sorry but there are no signs in vaticinium ex eventu arguments, hence the whole concept of scientific miracles in the Quran is BS.
silveren777 9 months ago
Regarding Khunnas, many have understood the term sweeping as a metaphoric for stars movement in the sky, just like in English when we say "it sweeps across the sky" and hidden because the stars doesn't show up the day.
As for tariq, little reading on quran exegesis would teach a great subtilities of arabic language stars are called tariq because they come at night, by analogy of a person coming at night who must knock at the door to get the permission to enter.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 If you re-read the verse At-Tariq again, you will notice that the verse itself tells you what a t-Tariq is, it says : At-Tariq is a piercing Star. Both descriptions "Knocker" and "Piercing" are known for the Black Hole, which is a fallen Star.
And the verses are there since 1420 years, but humans can't really tell the exact meanings, not because the words are difficult to understand, but because they didn't have the ability and devices to discover the true meanings behind them.
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
The word 'thaqib' in the verse, that's translated as 'piercing', lexically refer to both literal and figurate meanings of percing, as in English when you say "a percing light" = a light 'percing' darkness by its high luminosity.
Arab people also used the adjective 'thabiq' when talking about light emitting object.
So, you're just choosing the meaning YOU want.
silveren777 7 months ago
Regarding your justification,
You're begging the question: how do you know a priori that the intended meaning of verses is scientific, and not unscientific or somthing else? They were well understood in the context of the 7th century...
Such justification could even be used to defend any "sucessful" pophecies: "his texts looked obscure before the event X bcz ppl didn't experience it to understand the real meaning of them".
The 'miracle' here is a well-known trick called shoehorning.
silveren777 7 months ago
@silveren777 Again, the meaning is clear enough, but the people can't prove anything because of the lack of the devices. All what they understand is that there is a star that knock and pierce in heaven, and they accept that and believe that, but they didn't prove anything to know its deep DETAILS. This is what makes the Quran a miracle even after 1420 years, where even today scientists get surprised of such signs. Remember, the Quran doesn't teach science, but a book of signs.
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
Not at all.
What quran exegetes used to understand from this verse is rather a star coming at night and that pierces darkness by its light (BTW, i explained all this but somehow you didn't considered my arguments). You need to read classical exegeses, and to know the potential translations/meanings of relevant arabic words, before jumping to the conclusion of a scientific miracle.
silveren777 7 months ago
@silveren777 And what if I told you that I studied arabic at Vienna University and have a Magistrate ? So I don't need a translation at all, the meanings is as easy as A B C , If the translation is as you think : a Star that shine at night and pierce the darkness with its light, it will be a very laughable meaning, because Allah wanted Muhammed (a.s.) to pay attention to this special star, by asking him : And do you know what at-Tariq means, after swearing by this star.
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
It could refer to an unique star while being understandable in the 7th century, for instance according to exegetes al Tariq could refer to Venus or any bright star. Or it could even refer to all stars. That's the words of quran scholars, not mine.
Everyone know they come at night and hide during the day, yes; so what? That doesn't prove the majority of classical exegetes' interpretation of this verse is ridiculous.
silveren777 7 months ago
@silveren777 I will agree with you if this two words haven't been mentioned in the same chapter for this one star that God wanted to show as a sign, two simple words describe this star "Knocker" and "piercing", while the word star or stars have been mentioned in other several chapters with no such descriptions. What leads us to believe that the black whole is meant in this verse ? Because the similarity of both adjectives. CONTINUE...
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
They is no miraculous coincidence by the use of those words:
Although taken literally, they would make the verse sound like a scientific anticipation, Arabs ALSO used (and still use) them to talk about a star.
Also, the fact the Quran, in other occurence of the word 'star', doesn't call them both thaqib and tariq (although it describe meteors as piercing brightness thaqib) isn't really significant to lead to your interpretations.
silveren777 7 months ago
@silveren777 Wrong, from where did you know that arabs use the words Thaqib and Tariq for a star ? You can clearly understand from the verse that a star with the name Tariq is something that has never been used for a star before after you notice that God asks Muhammed " What do you know about the Tariq? ". And for your information, it is wrong by the SUNNA and GAMA'a to interpret a word in Quran different than its literal meaning, except when the prophet himself does that.
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
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silveren777 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
For staters, al Tariq, in a figurative sense, means something/someone that comes at night. As you can see, this is not specific, so the Quran tell you what it is. Again, this is consistent with my view
Oh, Arabs never used those 2 words when talking about stars? Just open Lane's Lexicon.
silveren777 7 months ago
@silveren777 At-Tariq can be used to anyone/anything who/which knocks, no matter in which time. So if I knock a door at 1:00 PM , the people inside that house will ask : Who is the Tariq (the knocker), because I knocked. Tariq imeans simply KNOCKER.
And if arabs used Tariq and Thaqib for the star, it is just because the Quran mentioned this two words to a star. I am close to arabs and have been between arabs, no single arab calls a star a Tariq, it is called Najm (star).
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
Look at an Arabic-English dictionary or lexicon (lane Lexicon) and you'll see 'knocker' isn't the only meaning conveyed by the active participle Al Tariq,
....Unless you think dictionnary writers and classical exegetes were written by people who don't know what they are talking about.
silveren777 7 months ago
@silveren777 Even if the word Knocker has more than one meaning, all this meanings are correct if we explain it to the stars. If it means "The star that is visible for us at night only" or if it means the literal meaning "Knocker" both are correct. But the verses in this chapter are clearly talking about a special and specific star that other stars can't match, by understanding the ideology of the Quran.. Continue..
TomiTom1234 7 months ago
@TomiTom1234
Yes, these meanings don't create any contradictions between the Quran and Science, but this fact is not proof they were choosed to match science.
''clearly talking about a special and specific star that other stars can't match'
Not neccesarly. And even if we suppose this is the case, the verse could refer to a particularly bright star in the visible sky; it's thus useless to invoke modern scientific concepts here.
silveren777 7 months ago