F1 1986 - Monaco Onboard Qualifying With Ayrton Senna (Lotus-Renault)

[luditanoslb]

Senna is the best!!!

[luditanoslb]

For me Senna, is the best ever, as a pilot and as a human.

[fagote41]

...ROYAL...

[f0XxXxXxX]

Did someone see Senna's right hand? Lost track of it.

[fikki99]

@f0XxXxXxX no he is shifting gears:D



[MrTann2010]

Forget every single car after and before 1986, I think that to handle the Turbo Cars in 1986, I think that you really had to be a MAN to even handle the cars.

[st4tor]

2 dislikes are Prost and Mansell

[berniesbuddy]

those turbos sound some different then the cars today.

[46ildotore]

2 Prost fans watch this!

[WatanukiF1]

it's 1985, not 1986

[hutuguru81]

@WatanukiF1 it aint qualifying either, no rubber on the road.

[niteowl2345]

When qualifying laps was really qualifying laps. Nowadays, it's impossible to know who is the best in a fast lap.

[TestECull]

You do not drive one of these cars. You conquer them.

[select899]

@TestECull agree

[GTAGIS]

This is 1985 I think because the "Chicane du port" was very fast, and it was changed in 1986. by the way, the way Monaco was during 1986 and 1996 was the best. After that, they screwed the swimming pool and finally they have completely homosexualized Monaco circuit..

[mrhnkey]

i would think that those engines would have needed an lot of the teams resources to develop and maintain i bet they just kept putting more and more wing on to get some grip instead of coming up with clever innovations with tyres and suspension and making up for the extra drag with more engine output

[thegreatbasher]

That is a beautiful machine driven by a true great amoungst men. I love the deep rich sound of the renault engine. Were they still mega turbos weith over 1000bhp? Monaco is the greatest spetical in F1.

[PayasYouListen]

That's not qualifying. He would never have carried the camera in qualifying back then. That's practice.

[orlandorecifebrasil]

yes, now I know that these cars were! realy monsters to be tamed! and real drivers for do it! :)

[Thecomputermechanic]

I am 14 so I missed the great era of F1 racing. It would have been great to watch these guys risk their lives every 2 weeks. F1 today in my opinion has too much computing.

[tambo3lite]

@Thecomputermechanic agreed man, yea i sadly missed it too, and theres not as much of a driver interface anymore

[bruffieislit]

rediculous amount of horse power, no assisted steering, no siquential (speeling questionable), manual H pattern gearbox, minimal downforce, as much as i understand how hard it is to drive a modern single seater...... these were outragous. and ayrton... maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate­, GOD

[ariell92]

1400 hp...holy fucking balls.

[GloopyCowMedia]

"Look at him go, very tight."

I would have to agree ;)

[kiwinrg]

ayrton senna = legend bloody legend rip .

[kiwinrg]

engine lotus renault ) gordini v6 1.5l turbo producing in excess of 1500 hp during qualifing, running the regulated 4 bar of boost ..and for all the coments of oh no way these are not 1500hp do you homework ,modern technology use"s far more advanced technical engineering along with the years of trial and error testing to produce the machines we have today alot less horsepower but faster, another perfect example the group b rally cars of the 80s some had over 800 hp (audi , todays 300hp faster??

[Apoic123]

sooo awesome, i love that color scheme , f1 was so awesome back in those days . i hate stupid new rules they dummy f1 cars more and more each and every year.

[orlandorecifebrasil]

I don't think these cars had also 1200-1500 HP and the rpm were smaller...

[blueblue101]

@orlandorecifebrasil ur right this car is his formula 2 car fom the colors i believe its the lotus car

[pazzoallaguida]

@orlandorecifebrasil they were turbocharged guy..no important what were the rpm (about 14000..)

[ZedarKiller]

@orlandorecifebrasil

From Wikipedia: "It is generally accepted that the Renault EF15 produced between 1,200 bhp (890 kW) and 1,300 bhp (970 kW) at 5.5bar boost."

[mgm41887]

@ZedarKiller doesn't that same wikipedia article say something about the Brabham producing something like 1400+HP with the same 5.5bar boost? Like no one really knows because no one had a dyno that could handle it? Absolutely nuts! Bring turbos back, I say. Separate the real drivers from the tourists.

[McLarenMercedes]

@mgm41887

BMW's engine guru Paul Rosche was interviewed for Motorsport magazine (which has been around since 1924 and is very respected) and told them that they used a special fuel additive which had been used to boost octane values for fighter aircraft during WW2, when Germany was getting short on fuel.

This way Brabham could safely rise boost to 5,6bars for the BMW engine, which showed over 1400hp on the dyno. BMW's only went up to that, so they don't know if it was 1420, 1450 or 1500hp.

[McLarenMercedes]

@ZedarKiller

Don't trust Wikipedia. Anybody can edit it.

Although the Renault turbo engine was very powerful, it is widely believed that the BMW turbo was the most powerful one. It was used by Brabham and later Benetton. I doubt Renault could charge 5,5 bars of boost, when BMW only managed that thanks to a special fuel additive (which Renault claimed was illegal back in 1983) which had been developed during WW2 for fighter aircraft.

BMW had 5,6 bars of boost and 1400+hp (Motorsport magazine)

[derkommissar1917]

@orlandorecifebrasil In qualifying, they did run well over 1,000 HP. The rules were different then, and teams would rig up engines just for qualifying, with as much boost and RPMs as they could take without blowing up before completing a lap. The engines used for the actual race were not nearly as powerful.

Still, F1 has never seen engines like those in 1986 before or since. In '87, F1 limited turbos to 4 bar boost, and in '88, to 2.5. In '89, everyone had to use naturally aspirated engines.

[MormelP8]

@orlandorecifebrasil I'm probably not the first saying this: RPMs were indeed smaller, but in that time they had turbo, to gain 1400HP. Thanks for the upload, much appreciated!

[kallo182]

i can not belive that these cars got 1200-1500hp...

because there are so slow...in between to the newer cars.

so where are the 1200-1500hp????

[trezoitao38]

@kallo182 1200-1500 hp only in qualify, in race 900hp.

[McLarenMercedes]

@trezoitao38

900hp was still a lot more than the 500hp the typical 3,0 litre Cosworth V8 they had back then. When the 3,5 litre engine formula was introduced from 1989 onwards, the Honda V10 had around 680hp.

900hp wasn't seen again until 2004 (almost 20 years later), and that with cars that were totally superior in handling, safety and technology. Makes one realize these turbo-beasts in the mid 80's were quite a thing to drive. And to behold. Senna was one of those as if made for the era.

[PulletSurprise]

@kallo182

Rubber on the road, aero deficiencies and grip limitations kept all of that power bottled up for only the straightest of straights.

[Ilovetypography]

@kallo182 "so slow' lol xD

How old are you?)

[MOODYSCOOBY]

@kallo182 kid you aint got a clue, these cars nowa days are run by computers and had nowhere near the same power to the old f1 cars.

[kallo182]

@MOODYSCOOBY

Jeeeees, im the KID...

Im 5 jears older than you...

I look Motorsport since 91...

and i drove Proffesionel Go-Kart races for German Championship over 4 jears...

And you say Kid to me???

Looooool xDDD

[MOODYSCOOBY]

@kallo182 you need to learn how to spell retard!

[kallo182]

@MOODYSCOOBY

You watch 2 or 3 Senna Videos on YouTube and now you think you Mr.F1...

Than please tell me "Mr.F1" why was the 1989 F1 Cars with 650Hp faster than the 1987 Cars with 1500Hp, in Monza and Hockenheim?????

only 2jears later and 900Hp less, but much Faster in Monza and Hockenheim....

Pleaaase "Mr. F1"

Pleaaase tell me!?!?

This 1500Hp is only a Fantasy of the People, this Cars had Maximumm about 900Hp...

[MOODYSCOOBY]

@kallo182 where did i say that these cars was 1500hp you cum guzzler, i said these cars are more pwerfull and harder to drive than the f1 cars of today, you need skill to drive in that era now computers do the driving retard fuck face go get your dads dick out your ass coming on youtube all angry because your anal is in pain.

[kallo182]

@MOODYSCOOBY

Maaaan ouuu Man...

Your a 23 Jear old Kid, who try to Talk about a thing you got no Idea About...

First you make a "Im know about" Man

And second when you see that you know nothing, than you try to make the other Bad with Words... : (

Like i say:

You a 23 Jear old Kid!

[MOODYSCOOBY]

@kallo182 yea im 23 and your a sad old perfectic 28 Year old virgin who still lives at home with his mum who comes on youtube to argue, do1 you sad fucking looossssseeeerrrr

[kallo182]

@MOODYSCOOBY

Ehmmmmm....

Yeeeees

xDDD

[MOODYSCOOBY]

@kallo182 i love your mum too

[Myrvold]

@kallo182 Well, do some study about the old BMW M engines in F1 ;)

[kallo182]

@Myrvold

The Cars from 1987 reach Top Speeds about 310Kmh in Monza, only a few years later reach the Cars Top Speeds of 340Kmh in Monza, with 670HP...

And the Cars of 1989 was faster in Monza and Hockenheim than the Cars from 1987, and the Cars of 1989 had about 650HP...

I dont know the BMW Study, but where are the 1500HP?

[Myrvold]

@kallo182 I have no answer on why the speeds are so much different, but I guess til have something to do with tyres and aerodynamics that makes the cars faster in the corners as well.

The 1500HP is not true, but if you hang on, I'll try to go through it briefly over 2 comments :)

For a start, the dyno which was used to test the engines was only rated for 1400bhp, so any values measured above that value are effectively nonsense.

[Myrvold]

@kallo182 Looking at the story closer, it seems that the estimate of the peak power was for a Monza spec engine, without a wastegate, and based on a flash pressure reading of the cylinder pressure. It is also worth noting that engine was the one which Gerhard Berger used, and the one which exploded in spectacular fashion as he came out of the Ascari chicane.

[serchmarc]

true

[mariusbrabus]

Who needs roller-coasters?! IMO, the best there ever was or ever will be! Senna is truly missed in F1.

[rrhynes]

Real cars. Not pussy wagons like we have today!!

[f1sanganchao]

@rrhynes Real drivers also

[palamala112]

@rrhynes

funny cuz u cudnt even drive the pussy wagons

[rrhynes]

@palamala112 I take it you like the pussy wagons? Perhaps you've driven one yourself? I never laid claim to being able to drive anything well.

[palamala112]

@rrhynes

Whatever, keep acting hard on yt see where it gets you.

[rrhynes]

@palamala112 So far, it's gotten me the attention of a pussy wagon fan.

[palamala112]

@rrhynes

I hope you drive one of these cars one day pal, pussy wagon f1 or 1400hp turbo qualifying f1 you'll still kill yourself in the first few seconds you hit the accelerator. have a nice day

[rrhynes]

@palamala112 I'll never get that opportunity,but I ill get some satisfaction out of pissing you off.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes todays cars a faster dude

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 A little. They are also a lot easier to drive.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes how do you know?) did u drive both of them?? + they are not a little faster, they are a lot faster, simply because they are smarter, power isn't everything mate. and remember that THE MOST technically advanced car was 1991-92 something like that. when Williams introduced active suspension and prost went on beating senna. so drivers are more active in racing then they were in that period, do ur research mate.

[LogainUlver]

@trifio5242 It's the advancement in aero that makes todays cars faster, and also easier to drive, a lot of downforce makes the car easier to drive. That's why it looks like the cars run on rails nowadays.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes sorry not prost, nigel mansel 1992. that was the most technically advanced car ever, and that car was by definition the easiest car to drive, had so much aids inside that it could drive itself, no shit. thats why this technology was banned, and since then FIA were banning driver aids more and more

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 The video is from 1986, not 1992. Nobody said anything about that.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes again "how do you know?) did u drive both of them??"

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 No fuckstick. Neither did you. 

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes oooh we are getting personal)) showing our 16 year old brains are we sir?)))

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 My brain isn't 16 years old, but I used language that 16year old reasoning ability would understand. Get it?

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes ok ok, 17 years old, ok)) for fuckstick i won't give more than 17))

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 Meaning you have the reasoning power of a 17year old. I misjudged by a year.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes no no no, I misjudged by a year, relax kid "who thinks he has huge balls")) maybe even bigger than your belly))

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 LOL> Kid huh? Ask your mom about my balls, There were probbly bouncing off her ass while you were still in the womb.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes yes kid huh. when somebody starts talking about somebody else in the argument, means they are so weak and stupid that they can't defend themselves just with words, which in turn shows HOW DUMB ARE YOU, and that you are a TRUE coward. congrats mate, you've scored all the basement points=) you little fat child that can only be courageous at the keyboard of a computer))

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 Go ask your mom , if you don't believe me.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes when i'll need a mate for my house to clean my floor, i'll call u mate, don worry

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 Figures you would be into dudes on their knees. I heard that about you guys.

[trifio5242]

@rrhynes just some comments from your page to prove my point:

charactercall (1 month ago)

What an extremely unpleasant piece of work you are. Good luck in prison.

MrParasitemeat (1 month ago)

so you are a black republican? You are truly a self-hating fucking moron. Back in the days we called you house nigger./

kernalrom (1 month ago)

Hope you die

oh sorry mate you are black..yes, then of course you are older i wouldn't be surprised if you were 35 and still have a brains of a 10 year old

[rrhynes]

@trifio5242 You still haven't disproven my theory that you're full of shit, as far as Formula 1 cars are concerned.

[kurakensama]

@trifio5242 so? Today drivers are pussy!

[trifio5242]

@kurakensama you are surely more courageous, I have no doubt about that you are going through R31 at 300km/h every single day.... IN A VIDEO GAME

[kurakensama]

@trifio5242 I never said I could drive an F1 car, I'm very quick in karts but I'm sure I'd die in any formula car. Can you drive an F1? Anyway, today F1 drivers are all pussy excepts Hamilton, who is crazy (good, I like it when is not crashing), Vettel, who is genius, and Kobayashi, who doesn't cares if he leaves the track alive. And by the way... why you, kids, do always attack the messenger and not the message?

[trifio5242]

@kurakensama I am not a kid and if you look at the first message I DID ATTACK THE MESSAGE, and not a messanger. and of course i can drive an f1 car... into the wall, very fast though))

[MarksRamos]

amazing..... video, that great driver