Adding to my prior comment... CFB would be economical if they REALLY did work for the hours advertised, but they do not. People are learning that they replace CFB almost as often as incandescent bulbs. So now we have a lot of nasty chemicals in the ground to save on polution generated with power plants? That's no forward progress in the cumulative sum of things. NO thanks... It's the replacement rate of CFB's that your skipping in your videos, seriously do some research on this.
No insult intented...seriously, you need to do a LOT OF HOMEWORK on CFB's they are terrible, your blindly following a green trend without doing your own homework. CFB's create a lot of manufacturing polution, contain all kinds of nasty stuff (mercury,argon,phosphorus) and a little circuit board in the base with stuff like a capacitor and recifier. Here comes the kicker, most CFB are made with such bad quality in China, they are thrown away way before 10,000 hours. Do research man :)
@stevenabb, did you watch the video? CFLs last longer than they used to. In the video I talk about mercury pollution from coal power plants versus from CFLs. I also talk about how much better and safer LEDs are to CFLs (although there may be more on that in episode V).
@ForestJay - In some locations/conditions a CFL are better. For example, an office where the lights stay on for a very long time and are put in purpose built Flourescent ceiling light fixtures, great. For home use, here are the areas where I would not want a CFL... 1) Bathroom, moisture severely lowers their life expectancy, 2) outside- it's hard to get them going when it's very cold outside. 3) Any fixture that requires them to hand upside down. 4) Kids bedroom... 5) Closet with on/off cycles.
CFL= BEST BULB EVER , very simple. For those who hoard the old dirty bulb, thankfully they burn out fast so you will tear through your silly collections very quickly in the course of five years.
I wonder how much energy it costs to make the energy saving bulbs, CFL. They look pretty fancy. I use them, okay. One broke in my son's room and I didn't know that mercury was in them. Don't vacuum and leave the room for 30 minutes, then dispose carefully. Sadly, there is no proper way to recycle mercury . Soon we will only be able to buy the CFLs. I need to buy LED. Maybe it costs more energy to make a CFL. I wonder.
About 90% of the lights in my house are CFL. My front porch lights run 24/7 because of the hours I work and they have been on and rarely off for 2 years. The only places I don't use them are the bathroom (moisture) bedroom (on a Dimmer) a motion light on the back porch and a light that is on a timer (don't last in it for some reason). CFL are much more affordable these days. I remember when they were $15 each.
Solar will take off if u can get big oil out of the governments pockets.
overall I have mixed views about CFLs, there not all what the Green parties make them out to be, and if you don't have a decent shade the quality of light is crap, but I would say about 60% of the lights in my house are CFLs, the 2 bedrooms in the old house use 60 Watt Pearls as there dimmers, and likewise the two bedrooms in the extended house which use 60 Watt R63 Spot Lights, the living room using 7 candels and the study using 4 candels
Global warming is not man made according to more than 31,000 scientists and counting. CFLs are still a good money saver though. Maybe the places that sell these (Wal-Mart) should have a free or very cheap recycling program.
My dad got some cheap "Sunbeam" CFL's from the dollar store, they suck. he also got some more expencive and better phillips ones, but we have some of the dollar store ones still in the house (the ones that didnt burn out in the first month). they have me worried though since i read that cheap CFL's can cause fires and leak hazardous amounts of mercury into your home, does anyone recognise the "Sunbeam" brand name? is it safe?
I haven't heard of them. I doubt they leak mercury unless they break. Make sure to contact your local government about proper disposal when you finish using them.
thanks for the reply. i heard the el-cheapo ones such as these can catch fire though since the electronic circuit board overheats. oh, well, its not like the cheap ones will last too much longer anyways, most died in a month or two (nowhere near the 6000 advertized hours)...
the phillips and sylvania ones both look better and last much much longer than the cheapo CFL's.
on the 4foot Fluorescent they have diffrent colors warm white @ cool white. does the warm whites go under a diffrent name cus i cant find any warm whites.
Can you consider how much more energy are used to make CFL? They use FOUR times more energy to MAKE CFL than incandescent...also consider mercury inside it & the extra plastics to throw away. Also there are reports of them flaming up. The older heavier magnetic CFL made in the 80s and 90s were MUCH better and lasted promised hours. I want USA products or at least made in some countries that don't make junk like where now CFL are made in! Also there are reports that other planets are warming up.
I will look at Amazon and CyberGuys, but it looks like LEDs will just project light like a spotlight. If I put one in the middle of the room will light go in all directions? ... I love your videos
yes thank you. This is a stupid idea. Thank you for shedding light on this stupendous idea.
We do not need to use MORE fluorescents given the rise in mercury. We need to diminish the demand for mercury in products,,not increase it. Back to the drawing board,,,,,
Have you noticed that no one recycles regular light bulbs? I find it hard to believe that they will recycle CFLs. I think they will simply be shipped to a 3rd world country and buried.
during the winter, when my the CFL's close to the door where it's cold light up, it glows purple and then gradually turn to its normal yellow color. Will that slow warmup kill my bulb overtime??
Also it would be cool if they made colored CFL's!! Colored by changing the shit inside, not by coating it with paint! MMmmm purple CFL would be niccce. YEAH.
I'm not sure if they could color it. I'm not even sure how neon is colored (it's probably paint though). The color change is because of the warm-up time. I don't really notice it, but people have told me about it.
Neon lights with colors are actually argon with phosphor that excites with UV just like fluorescent lights, you may have seen fluorescent lights with different colors. So it is not paint, if you notice blue, purple, pink, & some neon light colors are white when off, but lit in color when on. It's really argon with phosphor coating. But orange neon is the true real neon. Yellow has yellow tubes.
& yes SeikoPsycho, I agree, did you know that they did make colored fluorescent tubes without paint
White leds are actually fluorescent and rely on phosphors. The phosphors only last a small fraction of the life of the led. If you compare the light output in mcd, you will see that compact fluorescent is much more efficient. Someone will have to buy at least ten incandescent bulbs for every cfl, which means a lot more busywork and wasted time shopping.
The truth about CFLs is that, while they may save energy, they will not save you money, they pollute the environment with deadly toxins if improperly disposed and they could lead to you or your children being severely hurt if they break in your home.
I do agree with the Green Pirate that LEDs are the way to go.
I have a 5-gallon bucket half full of CFLs that have gone out in less then one year (there is no local recycling program for CFLs).
While many may argue that CFLs go out early because of improper installation, these arguments only go to prove that CFLs are very sensitive, not durable, and they are not a proper replacement for the incandescent bulb in most situations. Continued
CFL bulbs are now required by law to last at least two years. I too have had some dissapointments with CFLs but found that the problem was a bad ground wire rather than the bulb. Also, I hate to say it, well, not really but most of the bulbs that died before their time were generic brands made in China. Also, CFLs are supposed to be used in an upright or horizontal orientation.
While the information in this video is mostly correct, there is one glaring lie. That is that CFLs last 30,000 hours and there by saves you money. This myth has been perpetuated be all the greenies to encourage people to buy CFLs to save money. I have gathered an abundance of information that proves that CFLs do not last even close to 30,000 hours. In fact they may not last but just slightly longer then a standard incandescent bulb in a lot of cases. Continued below
Fuck CFL's!
newalm 4 months ago
Adding to my prior comment... CFB would be economical if they REALLY did work for the hours advertised, but they do not. People are learning that they replace CFB almost as often as incandescent bulbs. So now we have a lot of nasty chemicals in the ground to save on polution generated with power plants? That's no forward progress in the cumulative sum of things. NO thanks... It's the replacement rate of CFB's that your skipping in your videos, seriously do some research on this.
stevenabb 1 year ago
No insult intented...seriously, you need to do a LOT OF HOMEWORK on CFB's they are terrible, your blindly following a green trend without doing your own homework. CFB's create a lot of manufacturing polution, contain all kinds of nasty stuff (mercury,argon,phosphorus) and a little circuit board in the base with stuff like a capacitor and recifier. Here comes the kicker, most CFB are made with such bad quality in China, they are thrown away way before 10,000 hours. Do research man :)
stevenabb 1 year ago
@stevenabb, did you watch the video? CFLs last longer than they used to. In the video I talk about mercury pollution from coal power plants versus from CFLs. I also talk about how much better and safer LEDs are to CFLs (although there may be more on that in episode V).
ForestJay 1 year ago
@ForestJay - In some locations/conditions a CFL are better. For example, an office where the lights stay on for a very long time and are put in purpose built Flourescent ceiling light fixtures, great. For home use, here are the areas where I would not want a CFL... 1) Bathroom, moisture severely lowers their life expectancy, 2) outside- it's hard to get them going when it's very cold outside. 3) Any fixture that requires them to hand upside down. 4) Kids bedroom... 5) Closet with on/off cycles.
stevenabb 1 year ago
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ASLforever100 1 year ago
CFL= BEST BULB EVER , very simple. For those who hoard the old dirty bulb, thankfully they burn out fast so you will tear through your silly collections very quickly in the course of five years.
stickedU 2 years ago
I wonder how much energy it costs to make the energy saving bulbs, CFL. They look pretty fancy. I use them, okay. One broke in my son's room and I didn't know that mercury was in them. Don't vacuum and leave the room for 30 minutes, then dispose carefully. Sadly, there is no proper way to recycle mercury . Soon we will only be able to buy the CFLs. I need to buy LED. Maybe it costs more energy to make a CFL. I wonder.
nrobnas43 2 years ago
so easy a caveman can do it
big0tone 2 years ago
Explain Global Cooling in the 1970's Mr Wizard.
BlueIcesevensix 2 years ago
About 90% of the lights in my house are CFL. My front porch lights run 24/7 because of the hours I work and they have been on and rarely off for 2 years. The only places I don't use them are the bathroom (moisture) bedroom (on a Dimmer) a motion light on the back porch and a light that is on a timer (don't last in it for some reason). CFL are much more affordable these days. I remember when they were $15 each.
Solar will take off if u can get big oil out of the governments pockets.
whatihave2do 3 years ago
overall I have mixed views about CFLs, there not all what the Green parties make them out to be, and if you don't have a decent shade the quality of light is crap, but I would say about 60% of the lights in my house are CFLs, the 2 bedrooms in the old house use 60 Watt Pearls as there dimmers, and likewise the two bedrooms in the extended house which use 60 Watt R63 Spot Lights, the living room using 7 candels and the study using 4 candels
LightningT5 2 years ago
Global warming is not man made according to more than 31,000 scientists and counting. CFLs are still a good money saver though. Maybe the places that sell these (Wal-Mart) should have a free or very cheap recycling program.
nategreenbay 3 years ago
some landfills tell you to "toss it in and run",
thats gotta stop - but Where are they putting them..
so why make them at all, LED is much better
factsnow 3 years ago 2
YES they are.. much less shit in the nature.. and above all NO MERCURY on the nature...
mammacalo 3 years ago
sorry can't sit through this
THEREIZNOGOD 3 years ago
My dad got some cheap "Sunbeam" CFL's from the dollar store, they suck. he also got some more expencive and better phillips ones, but we have some of the dollar store ones still in the house (the ones that didnt burn out in the first month). they have me worried though since i read that cheap CFL's can cause fires and leak hazardous amounts of mercury into your home, does anyone recognise the "Sunbeam" brand name? is it safe?
tipoomaster 3 years ago 3
I haven't heard of them. I doubt they leak mercury unless they break. Make sure to contact your local government about proper disposal when you finish using them.
ForestJay 3 years ago
thanks for the reply. i heard the el-cheapo ones such as these can catch fire though since the electronic circuit board overheats. oh, well, its not like the cheap ones will last too much longer anyways, most died in a month or two (nowhere near the 6000 advertized hours)...
the phillips and sylvania ones both look better and last much much longer than the cheapo CFL's.
tipoomaster 3 years ago
I dont think they leak.. but when crusched they certainly do.. and many of the used ones is thrown in the nature.
They pollute the room theyre used in with a lot of emf tho.. thats not good to any biological beings.
mammacalo 3 years ago
on the 4foot Fluorescent they have diffrent colors warm white @ cool white. does the warm whites go under a diffrent name cus i cant find any warm whites.
dbzdanny 3 years ago
Yes, all flourescent lights require ballasts.
ForestJay 3 years ago
Uuuuhhh....do really large compact fluorescent bulbs require ballasts?
shortee4204real 3 years ago
Can you consider how much more energy are used to make CFL? They use FOUR times more energy to MAKE CFL than incandescent...also consider mercury inside it & the extra plastics to throw away. Also there are reports of them flaming up. The older heavier magnetic CFL made in the 80s and 90s were MUCH better and lasted promised hours. I want USA products or at least made in some countries that don't make junk like where now CFL are made in! Also there are reports that other planets are warming up.
jecwhiz 3 years ago
Watch the solid state lighting video (episode V) it talks about mercury and LED lights.
ForestJay 3 years ago
I invite everyone to read this article on CFL:
(Youtube usually blocks URLs, so copy the "URL below and replace the + signs with dots)
sound+westhost+com/articles/incandescent+htm#in2
raursf 4 years ago
LEDs are great, but does anyone know of any LED lights that would work for general lighting in the sockets that I already have?
hoobajooboob 4 years ago
You can buy LED bulbs for standard light sockets. Try Amazon or CyberGuys.
ForestJay 4 years ago
I will look at Amazon and CyberGuys, but it looks like LEDs will just project light like a spotlight. If I put one in the middle of the room will light go in all directions? ... I love your videos
hoobajooboob 4 years ago 2
Yes, take a look at episode V as an example.
ForestJay 3 years ago
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holy shit .......... i fucked your dad
Gordunski 4 years ago
fluorescent bulbs have mercury in them.
yes thank you. This is a stupid idea. Thank you for shedding light on this stupendous idea.
We do not need to use MORE fluorescents given the rise in mercury. We need to diminish the demand for mercury in products,,not increase it. Back to the drawing board,,,,,
nmste 4 years ago 3
Yes and also they haven't proposed any ways to recycle them. Back to the drawing board Mr light bulb engineers.
vmelkon 4 years ago
Have you noticed that no one recycles regular light bulbs? I find it hard to believe that they will recycle CFLs. I think they will simply be shipped to a 3rd world country and buried.
fcharrua 3 years ago
during the winter, when my the CFL's close to the door where it's cold light up, it glows purple and then gradually turn to its normal yellow color. Will that slow warmup kill my bulb overtime??
Also it would be cool if they made colored CFL's!! Colored by changing the shit inside, not by coating it with paint! MMmmm purple CFL would be niccce. YEAH.
SeikoPsycho 4 years ago
I'm not sure if they could color it. I'm not even sure how neon is colored (it's probably paint though). The color change is because of the warm-up time. I don't really notice it, but people have told me about it.
ForestJay 4 years ago
Neon lights with colors are actually argon with phosphor that excites with UV just like fluorescent lights, you may have seen fluorescent lights with different colors. So it is not paint, if you notice blue, purple, pink, & some neon light colors are white when off, but lit in color when on. It's really argon with phosphor coating. But orange neon is the true real neon. Yellow has yellow tubes.
& yes SeikoPsycho, I agree, did you know that they did make colored fluorescent tubes without paint
jecwhiz 3 years ago
The green pirate talks more like a member of the British Parliment than a pirate.
cslc777 4 years ago
That be a splendid compliment for the British Parliament.
ForestJay 4 years ago
White leds are actually fluorescent and rely on phosphors. The phosphors only last a small fraction of the life of the led. If you compare the light output in mcd, you will see that compact fluorescent is much more efficient. Someone will have to buy at least ten incandescent bulbs for every cfl, which means a lot more busywork and wasted time shopping.
awackocrank 4 years ago
The truth about CFLs is that, while they may save energy, they will not save you money, they pollute the environment with deadly toxins if improperly disposed and they could lead to you or your children being severely hurt if they break in your home.
I do agree with the Green Pirate that LEDs are the way to go.
jungleexplorer 4 years ago 2
I have a 5-gallon bucket half full of CFLs that have gone out in less then one year (there is no local recycling program for CFLs).
While many may argue that CFLs go out early because of improper installation, these arguments only go to prove that CFLs are very sensitive, not durable, and they are not a proper replacement for the incandescent bulb in most situations. Continued
jungleexplorer 4 years ago
CFL bulbs are now required by law to last at least two years. I too have had some dissapointments with CFLs but found that the problem was a bad ground wire rather than the bulb. Also, I hate to say it, well, not really but most of the bulbs that died before their time were generic brands made in China. Also, CFLs are supposed to be used in an upright or horizontal orientation.
scorpiooooooh 4 years ago
While the information in this video is mostly correct, there is one glaring lie. That is that CFLs last 30,000 hours and there by saves you money. This myth has been perpetuated be all the greenies to encourage people to buy CFLs to save money. I have gathered an abundance of information that proves that CFLs do not last even close to 30,000 hours. In fact they may not last but just slightly longer then a standard incandescent bulb in a lot of cases. Continued below
jungleexplorer 4 years ago
That number was taken from Wikipedia. Although, it looks like they recently revised the figure to 15,000 hours based on a report from IEC60969.
ForestJay 4 years ago
so o, like last episode but good
jangear 4 years ago
Thank you. This will be the last one about lighting for awhile.
ForestJay 4 years ago