@abumuslimkhorasani summarised it perfectly for anyone who takes the time to read the facts on this matter. This video just tries to cause antagonism. May Allah perfect all our faith and guide is to the straight path and away from those that want to cause mischief in the ranks of the Muslim. I am Sunni and call on the Shia to remember history and remember how they fought under numerous Sunni caliphs when they we were under attack by the kaffir like we are today.
There is no doubt, the killer Amir al-Muminin Omar ibn al-khatab was a disbeliever Majoos and even Shias have recorded this in their books (though some shia scholars praise him and send Salawat upon him).
It is well known the Khawarij were very strict and they used fast and pray but their extremism misguided and destroyed them and they deviated from the main stream Islam. Ibn Muljim who killed our master Amir al-Muminin Ali (ra), was from the Khawarij. I think this video is just childish.
@saad333960 هذه سولفها بباب بيتكم حتى يصدقها اخوك الصغير فهمت ابني؟؟
يعني انت ماعندك عقل لو المشاهد ماعنده عقل؟؟ شئ فريد كتاب ابن تيمية ولا احد يعثر عليه ولا احد يراجعه ؟؟ فأي تغيير تتكلم عنه يعني هذا الكلام غير موجود بكتاب ابن تيمية؟؟؟ لنرى من هو الكاذب يله اجب هل الكلام موجود ام لا؟؟
@ConspiracyKnowledge: Brother, the reply to your comment is within the video itself, when Allama Kamal Haydari challenges that where the khawarij say that Ibne muljim, killer of Imam Ali[as] had such an intention before killing Imam Ali[as]. Ibne taimiyyah has deduced such a fact out of conjecture and of course because of the hatred of Imam Ali[as] that all the Nasibees like ibne taimiyaa have in their hearts.
@wais910 ibn loo loo WAS a practising "muslim"! the problem is not what he practised or believed, the problem is that his "Islam" probably doesnt count with Allah unless he, and the killer of imam Ali, who both thought that they were doing good deeds, repent and return to Allah. then it is all in the hands of Allah to forgive or punish. we shouldnt take the role of saying who is what (Muslim or not) we should only report the deeds and intentions (if clearly seen, as in this case) of people.
Bro, Ibn Taymiyya says the killer of Umar was a disbelieving hypocrite. You're saying "ibn loo loo WAS a practising "muslim"! "
No Shia is allowed to curse the wives of the Prophet(sawa) [according to the MAJORITY of the scholars]. Why don't you EVER make this distinction?
Ayatullah Kamaal al-Haidary always ALWAYS makes the distinction between the Ummayad defenders (meaning the modern day wahabis and Ibn Taymiyya) and the Orthodox Sunnis (like Ash'aris, Sufis, etc.)
@wais910 maybe because omar's killer WAS a hypocrite who was known for his hypocracy and disbeleif whereas the killer of Imam Ali was known as a "good Muslim" in the eyes of the people whereas his heart was the furthers away from it? this is the point that ibn taymiyya (i think) is trying to make, but Allah knows best.
if you are not allowed to curse the wives then may Allah bless you for that and guide you to the true Islam of ahl'al Sunnah wa ijmah.
Bro the person you mentioned hasn't studied under ONE Shia scholar! He has NOTHING to do with mainstream Shia Islam. He is not even worth a comment. He has sworn at some of the greatest Shia scholars in history!
@wais910 then why is that CREEP getting so much possitive feedback and responses from shias on the internet. i guess its just little kids who will agree with pretty much anyone radical.
the thing that leads me to sunni Islam and far away from shiism is the pure hatred that comes out of the mouths of people like yassir al kathab. what is a religion if it is based completely on cursing (some of) the prophet's wives, followers and nearest friends. Subhan ALLAH.
@wais910 ps: look out for hypocracy because it is a blinding factor. you the shiites pray and make dua for the killer of omar and you curse the mothers of the muslim ummah, and you expect the muslims to feel sorry about reporting the truth about the killer of imam ali?
PS: Imam Ali will ALWAYS be one of us, and will never belong to you. his burden, pain and suffering is ours, not the shias. your imam is the jewish mahdi whom you await to return and kill omar, abu bakr and aisha. very cute
@hamody121212 i have watched this video and it shows that ibn taymiyyah shows the obvious hatred he has towards imam ali, however the video is called 'umar vs imam ali' as if they had a conflict between themselves, it should be called something like 'ibn taymiyyas view on the killer of ali and the killer of umar' thats why i said the title is misleading.
and i am a shia muslim, you should ask before making the accusation.
@abumuslimkhorasani summarised it perfectly for anyone who takes the time to read the facts on this matter. This video just tries to cause antagonism. May Allah perfect all our faith and guide is to the straight path and away from those that want to cause mischief in the ranks of the Muslim. I am Sunni and call on the Shia to remember history and remember how they fought under numerous Sunni caliphs when they we were under attack by the kaffir like we are today.
dappodan1 1 month ago
May Allah curse ibn Tamiya and make him like the ilk of ibn Muljim
lightof14 3 months ago 2
There is no doubt, the killer Amir al-Muminin Omar ibn al-khatab was a disbeliever Majoos and even Shias have recorded this in their books (though some shia scholars praise him and send Salawat upon him).
It is well known the Khawarij were very strict and they used fast and pray but their extremism misguided and destroyed them and they deviated from the main stream Islam. Ibn Muljim who killed our master Amir al-Muminin Ali (ra), was from the Khawarij. I think this video is just childish.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 4 months ago
التحريف وقع في الدقيقة 1:43
ارجو الانتباه لهذا الكذاب
إلى متى الكذب
saad333960 4 months ago
@saad333960 هذه سولفها بباب بيتكم حتى يصدقها اخوك الصغير فهمت ابني؟؟
يعني انت ماعندك عقل لو المشاهد ماعنده عقل؟؟ شئ فريد كتاب ابن تيمية ولا احد يعثر عليه ولا احد يراجعه ؟؟ فأي تغيير تتكلم عنه يعني هذا الكلام غير موجود بكتاب ابن تيمية؟؟؟ لنرى من هو الكاذب يله اجب هل الكلام موجود ام لا؟؟
MrMuslim1only 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
who watches this?
chadolien 4 months ago
شيعي
shia
TheMrco0ol 4 months ago
@ConspiracyKnowledge: Brother, the reply to your comment is within the video itself, when Allama Kamal Haydari challenges that where the khawarij say that Ibne muljim, killer of Imam Ali[as] had such an intention before killing Imam Ali[as]. Ibne taimiyyah has deduced such a fact out of conjecture and of course because of the hatred of Imam Ali[as] that all the Nasibees like ibne taimiyaa have in their hearts.
hamidhusain 4 months ago
ibn taymiyyah was ONLY reporting what that misguided fool who killed ali did. what does this stupid argument prove???
Conspiracyknowledge 4 months ago
@Conspiracyknowledge
He is saying the KILLER of Imam Ali(as) was a practising MUSLIM.
How would you feel if people say the KILLER of Umar was a practising MUSLIM?
wais910 4 months ago 3
@wais910 ibn loo loo WAS a practising "muslim"! the problem is not what he practised or believed, the problem is that his "Islam" probably doesnt count with Allah unless he, and the killer of imam Ali, who both thought that they were doing good deeds, repent and return to Allah. then it is all in the hands of Allah to forgive or punish. we shouldnt take the role of saying who is what (Muslim or not) we should only report the deeds and intentions (if clearly seen, as in this case) of people.
Conspiracyknowledge 4 months ago
@Conspiracyknowledge
Bro, Ibn Taymiyya says the killer of Umar was a disbelieving hypocrite. You're saying "ibn loo loo WAS a practising "muslim"! "
No Shia is allowed to curse the wives of the Prophet(sawa) [according to the MAJORITY of the scholars]. Why don't you EVER make this distinction?
Ayatullah Kamaal al-Haidary always ALWAYS makes the distinction between the Ummayad defenders (meaning the modern day wahabis and Ibn Taymiyya) and the Orthodox Sunnis (like Ash'aris, Sufis, etc.)
wais910 4 months ago 2
@wais910 maybe because omar's killer WAS a hypocrite who was known for his hypocracy and disbeleif whereas the killer of Imam Ali was known as a "good Muslim" in the eyes of the people whereas his heart was the furthers away from it? this is the point that ibn taymiyya (i think) is trying to make, but Allah knows best.
if you are not allowed to curse the wives then may Allah bless you for that and guide you to the true Islam of ahl'al Sunnah wa ijmah.
Conspiracyknowledge 4 months ago
@wais910 ps: what do you think about that kalb yassir al khanziir? and please, no taqiyah, just answer truthfully cause i really wanna know
Conspiracyknowledge 4 months ago
@Conspiracyknowledge
Bro the person you mentioned hasn't studied under ONE Shia scholar! He has NOTHING to do with mainstream Shia Islam. He is not even worth a comment. He has sworn at some of the greatest Shia scholars in history!
wais910 4 months ago
@wais910 then why is that CREEP getting so much possitive feedback and responses from shias on the internet. i guess its just little kids who will agree with pretty much anyone radical.
the thing that leads me to sunni Islam and far away from shiism is the pure hatred that comes out of the mouths of people like yassir al kathab. what is a religion if it is based completely on cursing (some of) the prophet's wives, followers and nearest friends. Subhan ALLAH.
but you seem like a good bro.JZK
Conspiracyknowledge 4 months ago
@wais910 ps: look out for hypocracy because it is a blinding factor. you the shiites pray and make dua for the killer of omar and you curse the mothers of the muslim ummah, and you expect the muslims to feel sorry about reporting the truth about the killer of imam ali?
PS: Imam Ali will ALWAYS be one of us, and will never belong to you. his burden, pain and suffering is ours, not the shias. your imam is the jewish mahdi whom you await to return and kill omar, abu bakr and aisha. very cute
Conspiracyknowledge 4 months ago
علي مع الحق والحق مع علي
Megahs2010 4 months ago
Why is the video called umar vs imam ali, i dont think this represents what the video is about and could be misleading
SeekingTheTruth5 4 months ago
@SeekingTheTruth5 are you watching the svideo or not??watch 0:42 and Listen to What your Ibn Taymiyyah Says
hamody121212 4 months ago in playlist More videos from wais910
@hamody121212 i have watched this video and it shows that ibn taymiyyah shows the obvious hatred he has towards imam ali, however the video is called 'umar vs imam ali' as if they had a conflict between themselves, it should be called something like 'ibn taymiyyas view on the killer of ali and the killer of umar' thats why i said the title is misleading.
and i am a shia muslim, you should ask before making the accusation.
SeekingTheTruth5 4 months ago
السلام عليك يا أمير المؤمنين وسيد الوصين لعن الله من قتلك وأنزلة في أسفل درك من الجحيم
kazemhussein 4 months ago
لعن الله من قتلك يا امير المؤمنين
salah86bh 4 months ago
Allah's curse be upon Ibne Taimiyaa and his ilks.
hamidhusain 4 months ago
Very Knowledgeable Man....Jazak ALLAH Khairan
sayedaskari01 4 months ago
Ya Imam Ali (as)
TheShingami 4 months ago
I love this guy lol
kpacf 4 months ago