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  • I would soley agree Davey but...

    I love meat WAY too much to give it away.

    But I love mah veggies too :)

  • 100 acres of land produces enough beef for 20 people. If that land was used for wheat instead, 240 people could be fed. If you can't care for the animals you mindlessly consume, how about considering the effects the meat market has on humans? People in this world are starving. Rise above your taste buds.

  • as much as I love AFI, I have to disagree with Davey on this one, animal products are an essential part of the human diet. Vitamin B12 is only found in animal products and deficiencies in this vitamin can result in conditions such as megaloblastic anaemia and nervous system damage

  • I respect your opinion Davey, I just don't share it 100%. I refuse to drink milk of any sort except soy and lactaid and I cut back on my meat consumption.

  • i nee my meat vitamin. :\ it's the cyrcle of life.but respect any ideas.and strongly respect no to animal cruelty.

  • I wonder if he ate meat when he was all buff back in the day.

  • OK, for you people who are saying we should be eating plants only, have it ever occured to your mind that we can't really farm enough to feed the world with just veggies?

  • @artistcjalos Do you even know how much of our precious veggies goes to waste to feed the animals that get slaughtered to become your next meal!?

    In MY country alone, 90% of the soy that is cultivated is basically WASTED by becoming food for farm animals.

    So get your facts straight before trying to defend MURDER.

  • Fuck the system

  • we have 4 canine teeth which are for meat. we are meant to eat meat. we actually should not be consuming dairy seeing how we're not cows. sorry davey......

  • @FrankieTattak he doesn't consume dairy. You should compare your canines to those of a lion and then try to still tell me that we're meant to eat meat...

    Your "canines" look nothing like a carnivore's. You can't run fast enough to catch your food. You don't have the nails or teeth to kill it and tear it apart. You can't eat it raw or you get sick. Your jaw does not only move vertically like a carnivore's....

  • @xdanierox why would i compare our teeth to a lion? a lion is a CARNIVORE! CARNIVORES only eat MEAT! HUMANS are OMNIVORES. Which means we can eat PLANTS and MEAT! We have canine teeth for meat. whats so god damned hard to understand about that? if we are not supposed to eat meat why have we been doing since the dawn of man? why do billions of people eat meat? and why is it okay that animals eat other animals, but humans can't?

  • i love AFI and i love meat

  • I agree with Davey to an extent. I agree that it is barbaric to keep animals locked up in cages just for breeding then slautering. But I also have to disagree. Although plants do not have a nerve system or a voice, they are still alive. In the end we are most likely taking away animal's food source by eating only plants. I also believe that it is part of the food chain for us to consume other animals. Thats just my belief; you can disagree or agree as you will.

  • yah unless you hunt down a chicken (or cow) and eat it raw then your not meant to consume it

    you can easily pick a fruit or something

    Unless you go and suck on a cows boobs ( utter ) then you shouldnt drink milk

  • I'm so sick of hearing this nonsense from people, "its nature", "plants have feeling too","Its not healthy". Stop being ignorant for 2 seconds and do some actual research. Meat has no fiber, So its impossible to digest faster than fruits and veggies, Which is rich in fiber, chlorophyll, and Vital nutrients most people don't get. Bean for complete protein, "for those who don't know, its protein that has 8 essential amino acids. I can go on but its limited. This is just the health part.

  • Even if plants do have feelings, they are not produced in mass quantities where they die in agony and pain. The people who kill these animals don't just chop their heads off. Don't even get me started on what these people do to the innocent animals who are bred in cages that they can't turn around in. I am a vegetarian that has been vegan for a while, I kind of switch off. I agree with Davey 100%, there is no reason to kill animals when we can get all the nutrients we need from plants.

  • God bless In-n-out Burger.

  • ugh peta annoys me. and I'm vegetarian.

  • ima eat all the meat i want :D as long as i dont gatta kill it

  • peta is trash.

  • @A2Z83 I do think Peta are bad too!

  • dang, i think i am going to go eat a hamburger now

  • i want one of those t-shirts. where can you get them...

  • Just think, if humans were a bit smaller, with less intellect and different hands, we'd be eaten by other animals. bet the animals eating us wouldn't be vegan. I have nothing against vegans or vegetarians, and afi is great, but something edible is something edible.

    I don't agree with factory farming animals though. apart from that, meat's good.

  • fuck this shite, im off for a whopper, also his t-shirts are wank.

  • if your a vegan i will eat double as much meat for you

  • @theobject001 and you will die of a heart attack, good luck with that slow suicide. Karma is a bitch

  • My point in saying that is to tell you we have our own opinions and it is just annoying when you say our beliefs are stupid.

  • I usually respect people if they arent vegan or vegatarian... But trying to prove us worng is just stupid. We as vegans and vegatarians have made our choise- I believe killing hundreds of animals to keep yourself alive is just wrong, especially when there are other food choices to be made. Also, caging them in small confined places to torture them and steal their own products is horrible.

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  • "It is in fact murder"

    Definition: Murder -- "Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being."

    DEBATE FAIL!

  • @undeadgamer0 And where did you fish that definition up?

    Murder; verb; to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.

    That's the definiton of the word murder, not the HUMAN LAW of murder.

    Simply because one law states something doesn't constitute it as fact. Most countries have no laws against mary jane, but the US does. Different laws.

    Therefore, since a law is not the definition of the word, we must discount your argument as being ill informed and biased.

  • "It is in fact murder".

    Definition: "Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being"

    FAIL

  • I like AFI, but I don't agree at all with PETA's perspectives. People were designed to eat meat, we were made that way, and if you want proof, look at our teeth, and analyze our stomaches/acid.

    What it basically comes down to is PETA trying to push THEIR beliefs and views onto the rest of society. Which is fucked up. If you don't believe in something, don't try to make everyone else around you the same way. Mind your own damn business.

  • animals were to be eatin dude thats why there edible lol and taste goooooood!:D

  • 100% with u davey I'm a vegetarian thoung not vegan but hopefully soon, it's important for vegetarians to wear those kinds of shirts to PROMOTE vegetarianism, not yell at ppl and say do this but wearing a t shirt will put the idea in the back of the persons mind who saw u with the shirt and more vegetarians/vegans more healthier the world will be and more animals will survive

  • I'm a veggetarian. No one else in my family is. I have no problem with people who eat meat but i do agree with Davey about it. Animals are just as important as humans are they have familys.

  • im just saying that if god didnt want us to eat animals then why did he make them out of meat...

  • Obviously humans are meant to eat meat. Pretty much every other primate eats meat. There are parts of the human anatomy specifically used for eating and digesting meat.

    I don't mind what views people have. I couldn't care less if people choose to be vegetarian or vegan or any of the other types of diet that there are. What I object to is when people try to guilt others out of eating meat.

    Eating meat is not "murder". Animals kill and eat other animals, that's how nature works.

  • Dude our jaws are meant to eat meat, what do u think our canine teeth are for, tearing meat

  • hey davey is that a mirror in your pocket, cause i can see myself in your pants... :P

  • Shut up David.

  • I love animals and seeing what they did to them in this video is now going to make me sad for a while.

    I love you Davey, but I can't watch this video anymore =(

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  • yayaya !!! i am veggie to <3 i am working towards becoming vegan

  • plants don't have a nerve system, therefore they don't experience pain like living things that do have a nerve system. Animals feel love and pain just as much as we do. Just cause they don't have a voice to speak out for themselves, doesn't mean they have to die for our consumption. It is infact true what Davy said, that we aren't meant to eat meat, studies show that digesting meat takes alot of time for a human to digest and it gets turned into fat easily. And our jaws aren't build to eat meat.

  • @TeenageHeadcase Umm? What? If humans were'nt designed to eat meat, we wouldn't have teeth designed for tearing it. Kind of like saying a wolf isn't designed to eat meat, even though they have the teeth for it. Not only that, but compare the acidity content in a carnivore's/omnivore's stomache to that of a herbivore. There is a noticable difference. PETA simply doesn't agree with something, so they're trying to FORCE their believes down everyone else's throats who has a different opionion.

  • @TeenageHeadcase There have been studies done that show that plants do indeed respond to the same things that would cause us pain. Do you know that some can even communicate with others when there is danger present? If plants don't feel, Why then do they grow better when you talk to them(there are studies that show this also)? And who told you that our jaws aren't designed to eat meat? We're omnivores, designed to eat all kinds of stuff. It's why we're an apex predator.

  • @TeenageHeadcase Go Back and check out Human Anthropology. You'll find that when humans first came along, there was a line that developed as vegetarian. They died out pretty quickly as when there was no plants to consume, they then had nothing to eat. Now that being said, I totally respect that Davey has chosen to live this lifestyle. I just take issue with the reasoning. But considering the fact that the lifestyle that most of us live is killing us, it wouldn't hurt us to eat less meat.

  • @TeenageHeadcase Oh,and one more small point, and I'll get off my soapbox. Meat digests more quickly than fruits and vegetables, I;m pretty sure on occasion you yourself will have noticed that some will pass through without digesting at all.

  • @TeenageHeadcase Our bodies are also built to burn fat and use it as an energy source. We weren't made to sit around and let it turn into fat. Oh and k9 teeth, nice and sharp for cutting throught that tough... lettuce.

    and yes I love AFI

  • @TeenageHeadcase woah old post sorry lol

  • haha how many times have I heard that "plants are living too" well we do need to survive right?Plants don't scream when you kill them or feel pain or have a face it's a matter of compassion simply.

  • I love AFI, but i dont think i could ever give up meat. and last time i checked plants are living oganisms too...

  • lol ok being a vegan is all good but to be one because u think you are murdering animals and they are not meant to be eaten....hmmmmm crazy. Its called the food chain

  • @StealthyTyler0425 HAHA omg LOVEE this. I was just thinking the samething! apparently because I like steak I am a murderer. Darn someone come and lock me up.

  • I'm proud to be vegetarian. No blood on my hands,and i surely ain't paying someone else to kill food for me. <3

  • your a tax payer...so ummmm yes blood on your hands

  • @StealthyTyler0425 -.- he's not talking about it...<.<

  • davey is awesome either way

  • i am a vegetarian as well and i understand everyones opinion but it is also his choice and what he believes, but running around making shirts to turn people into vegetarians is not the way. it is hard for a carnivore to turn around and chose to be a herbivore. i do it for the animal rights and a healthy diet but i wont tell you to do the same.

  • how is he making shirts to try to turn pwoplw into vegetarians? im pretty sure there for vegetarians not like some stupid expensive protest or something

  • Davey, I love you and respect you as a fellow human being and as an artist. I do not, however, respect your decision to outwardly critisize the eating habbits of others. I oppose animal cruelty. But I am a very happy omnivore. I believe in free range animals as opposed to caged ones. I believe in learning where our food comes from to respect it further rather than banishing it completely. If we respect the animals, we are more likely to choose meat products that have not be subjected to cruelty.

  • MURDER IS WHAT YOU DID TO AFI !!!!!

  • yeah i know, right

    there new music should be illegal its so bad

  • Um, I adore AFI and I think Davey's a cool dude, but I've noticed that he says a lot of shit against propaganda but then he turns around and uses it himself.

    Humans were meant to eat meat, there are nutrients in meat you can't get from a veggy diet and that are essential to lead a healthy life. Nowadays you can take a pill and get those nutrients so being a vegetarian can be healthy now, but it wasn't always that way. Oh, and plants scream when they're unrooted or dehydrated. (Totally serious)

  • Actually , the biology states the opposite , we CAN live without meat and It's totally normal as opposed to living with meat only. We can't survive if the only product we enter is meaty .

    I mean , just think about it , what does the meat have that the other products don't ?

  • As I previously said, yes, we can live without meat, and live a relatively healthy life, but you could also live a healthy life without veggies or fruits. All depends on what supplements you're taking. Meat is rich in Vitamin A, B12, Protein, B6, Niacin, iron, zinc, and Gluthathione. All of which you can get over the counter in a pill. Prehistoric hunters, for whom protein was essential? Didn't have the luxury.

  • Oh, and, I am a vegetarian, I just don't think it's right to say such blatant bullshit. Being a vegetarian should be a personal choice, not made into a moral one.

  • B12?

    I think that's why vegans have to go in for shots once a month. I am aware there is B12 in soy products, but you cannot consume enough in one day that is found in higher foods such as Fish, Crab, Milk, Salmon.

  • THAT IS SOO TRUE!! we are ment to eat things that arent alive like friut and stuff

  • Fruits are plant fetuses.....

    YOU'RE EATING CHILDREN!!!

  • lol daveyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy­yyyyyyyyyy, yes we are meant to consume animals there's too many of them and one day they will take over the world and by then everyone will be a vegetarian so they're all gonna kill us, that's why stay a meat eater that way when they try to take over we can just fry em up and have bacon!!!! but i still think you're fucking awesome davey you're i don't care if you don't liek meat that has nothing to do with how great of a singer you are

  • What a legend of a guy but ain't nobody gonna take my salami away...

  • I love Davey, but he's full of shit. Humans are omnivores by nature. And every time you drive a car, you're killing everybody. Maybe you should stop riding in tour buses and shit, Davey.

    Vegan diets are fine if they work for you, but you're an asshole if you make up lies in the hopes of getting people to join a basic cult.

  • i am a vegetarian and im sooo freakin proud of it.. not because i used to eat tons of meat but because sometimes it is hard to find vegetarian products, or food in general.. but it's all worth it cuz i feel healthier than ever, and it feels good knowing im contributing to our world as well.

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  • Your getting into something completely different, there are different debates on it but whether or not we are "meant" to eat animals can be based on religion, example you believe animals were put here for us to eat, or whether we are in fact in charge of the earth and capable of having an advanced sense of right and wrong in our own society. And in that sense I think we are not meant to eat animals, I think thats maybe what he was trying to say.

  • I am 24 years old and have been vegan for 16 years. I do not have nor have I ever had an iron deficiency. Educate yourself before you take a shot at something you know nothing about. This is simply another example of a person who lacks the will power for a vegan diet. You are addicted (yes addicted) to meat and dairy products. There is NO justification for animal consumption. There is no coincidence that many of the most intelligent people have a vegan/vegetarian diet.

  • @mandyrad18 Is that why vegetarians are so smug? Where do you live? I'm gonna come BBQ a steak on your front lawn. lol

  • they don't take shots you dumb fart, they take pills they have about a billion of em, besides there's like an endless ammount of plants that we can eat and only a limited ammount of animals we can eat, even though plants are alive they don't feel pain but animals do (no im not a vegetarian i pretty much hate all vegetables and i love meat, but im not a fatty)

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  • P.E.T.A= people eatting tasty anamals

  • meat does not rot in your intestines, it gets digested like any other food you eat

  • has anyone seen a healthy looking vegitarian....huh nether have I

  • I like davey and love afi, but i have to disagree. If humans weren't meant to consume meat, then why is it we have appendixes? Humans haven't always had lab made foods to supplement meat.

  • id rather eat meat than be in the occult

  • yep, humans were designed to eat animals. and what else were they meant for if not for eating.

  • lol are you that stupid, go listen to 50 cent? I really hope you are joking.

    What were you made for? Maybe to live your life, just like them.

    If you WANT flesh, then catch a free animals or a dog, eat flesh raw, rip it appart eat its ass insides and all. It can rot in your long intestines too, good luck with the colon cancer. BTW you are made of meat too.

    Educate yourself, Factory Farms MeetYourMeat (dot) com

  • stfu and go eat leaves.

  • Thanks for proving yourself wrong with another pointless comment in support of animal abuse.

    Thousands of foods are in stores, so you dont need to hurt animals.

  • people are stupid. eat what you want, since im so happy God placed these chickens and cows to be my awesome pets....

  • Many of us should be vegans as am I because like he said it's a healthy diet and we save more animals for that so yea I am glad that AFI is a VEGAN band :) and may I add davey looks very sexy here :)

  • fuck yea!!! :)

  • I love Davey, but I have to disagree. Humans are designed to be omnivores, just like bears, raccoons, some primates, etc. Animals eat other animals, and we're supposedly related to primates, so it's perfectly natural. I love animals, but I don't think I could be a vegan.

  • Maybe not vegan, but like in some ways, like things like cow's milk...we're not supposed to be drinking that. We're not cows. bears don't drink cow milk. And bears don't eat a TON of meat actually. In some ways eating at least some animal products is natural, but the process is wrong as is what we put into the animals and thus into ourselves when we eat them. [Yeah, I'm a vegetarian. Not vegan though] It is true though about animals vs. other animals. Just we go overboard in my opinion.

  • I agree, mostly. But this one PETA representative was on TV recently and she claimed that chickens are killed by putting them in scalding water, which is a straight lie. There are shitsticks out there that mistreat their livestock, but the majority don't. Those animals are their livelihood, and it only makes sense that they would take the best care possible of them. I also agree that most people go overboard. Like eating veal and lamb. I would never eat a baby animal, EVER.

  • @VictorsChick4ever Davey is right, we have a choice and dont have to be savages. If it was necessary to catch, rip appart any animal including dogs and eat it all raw I would. We have 1000's of food options that does not involve selfishly torturing of other mammals. Regardless factory farms are horrible animal abuses, unsanitary, bad for our environment, health and work hunger. Look up factory farming videos plz.

  • @VictorsChick4ever If we were meant to consume meat, then why do we have to cook it? Shouldn't we be able to eat it in its natural form without the worry of getting sick?

    Carnivorous animals also eat the eggs of other animals while they are still raw. We, on the other hand, have to cook them in order to safely consume them.

    As far as dairy - humans are the only animals that consume milk post-childhood AND the only animals that consume the milk of another animal.

    How is any of that natural?

  • @OMGURTEEF

    We can eat raw meat, Steak Tartare is a dish consisting of raw beef and egg.

  • Go Davey :) You're amazing.

  • I think it depend on what time period it is, like the Adam & Eve time vs. now.

  • OMG....sorry, Davey, but I have to disagree....humans are omnivores and eat both plants AND animal meat....but, we do have a choice however, and can choose against eating meat cause it IS murder...I LOVE animals, but I don't like vegtables so, I'm not going to become a vegan anytime soon, and I LOVE chicken....I'm compassonate for animals, but.....

  • he's right meat isn't healthy but meat is soooo yummy. mmmmmmm meat

  • theres a lot of murder going on in the world... but i like meat so im eating it..

  • just because its in the bible doesn't mean it is even CLOSE to being right....

  • Oh Davey, I love you, but chicken is GOOOOOD!!!

  • daveyy havokkk, sean brennan i love youuu...

  • Let evolution happen on its own.

  • if you eat meat you are selfish no one needs meat your only eating it because you like it and for that you are selfiish, show a little respect for living creature!

    A plant is does not feel pain or suffer for u idiots out there.

  • how do you know, it out of coherency to said that we are not suppossed to eat alive beings but it is allowed to eat plants while they are also considered to be alive, im not trying to be agressive or start a a fight but really, how do we know im not against veganism at all but sometimes i wonder if we are a bit wrong i mean just because you cant understand what a lion says doesn#

  • sorry didnt finish hehehe i was trying to express that maybe just because we dont understand the sound of plants does not mean that they cant actually communicate or something, dont know just a thought as i told ya, not trying to start a fight

    peace

  • I genuinely love and respect Davey, but he's wrong. Meat is good.

    & I'm digging the five o'clock shadow look.

  • *Davey I love you!!!!!*

    xxx

  • I love how you're trying to be all clever & high & mighty, and prove vegetarians wrong, when in fact you're talking absolute shit. Plants don't have feelings, animals do. Don't try and push your beliefs on other people please.

  • I'm not telling anybody to be a vegetarian. I wasn't even encouraging it, and I haven't stated whether or not I am one. I'm just pointing out that the comments you made were retarded.

  • so, because you see ads promoting meat, your point is instantly valid?

    nice argument bro

  • tongue my shitter BROSEPH

  • skyline the dif is that animals hav souls and plants don't

  • (Nothing against Davey) that statement is retarded and wrong "As humans, we are not meant to consume animal ." I hate peta because they like to push their own personal beliefs on to people. Peta Fck off!

  • You push your personal beliefs on animals. You pay hitmen that force animals into cages, enslave, rape and then kill em.

    Every fast food commercial must be forceful to you too. Nope, only because you argee. You are a sick person with sorry excuses.

  • AFI is awesome but...... meat ftw!!!

  • love afi, and i love meat

  • when u think bout eating animals its kinda creepy. think 4 a sec. wat if cows or chichens or sumthin like that was eating us? i still eat meat but i try not to think of it that way, r else i lose my appetite.

  • if you eat meat you are selfish no one needs meat your only eating it because you like it and for that you are selfiish, show a little respect for living creatures!

  • he was wearing that shirt when he did the cover of straight edge revenge with ceremony.

    i dont like afi, i dont like blacq audio. and i didnt even like davey, but it looks like hes putting his whole im a manchick stage behind him, and now im gaining fuck loads of respect for him!

    PROPS FOR LIKING CEREMONY DAVEY!

  • "I am a vegan out of my love and respect for animals, as well as my hatred for plants"

    How it should have gone.

  • Sorry for my spelling mistakes, i'm pretty drunk. All things in moderation i say, self rightious peta people, like the bloody straightedge mugs, alawya moaning about something. Calm down and shut up.

  • Go Davey :) I too am a vegan, I am in PETA and Davey Havok kicks-ass :)

  • Oh my god! I was actually kind-of nice to you. But you are in PETA. so fuck off! You are a brainwashed cultist that advocates harassment, and uniformity. You are stubborn and unreasonable and try to mask it as left-wingedness. You treat people like shit for doing what they've done for 200,000 years. Congratulations, You are sooo fucking ethical.

  • jmosthimself1 and Cyanidedeath - You're both fucking homophobic pricks. Go live in the South and bang your own sister or something. I'm a straight guy myself but you're both huge losers if you feel like you have to call guys who are a little feminine "faggots" in order to feel manly. Grow the fuck up man, everyone can see right through your pussy-ass "I'm so manly, watch me call guys faggots" personality. And even if you watch old AFI interviews, he's always talked the same way.

  • Ok, as much as I agree,

    We don't bang our siblings in the south...well most of us don't.

    But i do agree with you, jmosthimself1 and Cyanidedeath...get a life.

  • He's so beautiful!I can't wait for the new afi album!

  • hm. davey's lookin fine! ;) hahaha. i would agree with most of that. One problem i have is that if we didn't eat animals, they would overpopulate the planet and use up the earth's resources (just like America!) ;) and we r kinda at the top of the food chain. I mean, animals prey on each other, and we r in the animal kingdom. think about it. anyway. he is amazing enough to be a little wrong and get away with it. XDDD

  • The human digestive system is built to digest both plant and animal matter. In fact, a healthy and balanced diet relies a lot on the proteins found in meat. Sorry Davey.

  • just thought I would say, it is more so based on a plant diet due to the length of our intestines and the texture of our colons. As for protein; nuts,beans,vegetables and quinoa FTW :)

  • Thanks for the information. But really, vegetarian or not, you are killing something to eat it. Nuts and beans are the semen of plants. Beets, carrots, and onions (the roots) are a living organisms body. And eating florets (lettuce, broccoli, cauliflower) is like eating skin. :)

  • One difference, It doesn't have a brain or central nervous system. It does not feel pain or fear. But It's my choice not yours, you can eat what you want and I will eat what I choose :)

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  • HE'S SO HOT!

  • OMG!! he`s soo sexyy!!!

  • go davey go davey!!

  • Davey is cool... but I almost feel bad because PETA is associated with a lot of eco-terrorism :[

  • You pay hitmen to terrorise, rape and murder animals. You are the terrorist to animals. eco-your another money hungry selfish piece of shit

  • srry Davey i just love meat!!

  • aww davey!

  • DAVEY!!

  • davey needs to shave

  • BY that... it seems to me that you have serious problems... :/ DAMN!

  • YAY!!!!............. im vegan

  • I LOVE DAVEY SOO MUCH!!!... but I would mnever survive as a vegan!! XP.....well I can try being a vegiterian...ive been eating a lot of junk food lately and that can't be good at all LOL You know what...im going to give this a try!! I just decided this right this second!!

  • I LOVE DAVEY HAVOK..^!*^!*^<3

  • I love daveyy buutt im not sute i like his beardd and hairr. I dont like changes it's just like jefffree star's orange hair its okay but ill always love the oldd

    wooo petaa!

  • nice bed hed hair and beard...

    No srsly, I LOVE IT <3

  • GO vegitarians!

    heehee =]

  • me encantan los ojos de davey en este video jajajaja!!! todoooooooooo besostes amiguito! que estes bien pasame tu mail luego ok?