@PatrickLMT Just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it right. All governments are thieves. And I don't want a government. Government is coercion, nothing more.
@PatrickLMT We don't want a government at all if you're not an inconsistent libertarian philosopher. If government was so damn great that people would voluntarily donate to it why institute the IRS? Why not let people know on national TV; "Hey by the way, you don't HAVE to pay your taxes. We won't threaten you if you do not pay!"
@PatrickLMT Patrick, did you ever try not paying your taxes? Because i have a couple of friends whom could show you just how full of shit you are and they're CANADIAN. A friendly country, threatening it's own citizens for money. I agree with you the US couldn't possibly audit all the tax evaders but ask anyone what would happen to them if they didn't pay their taxes? Would the IRS hold back? Really? Are you THAT dense? Just because there is no law doesn't mean the IRS will just chill.
It is forced by the IRS. The IRS shows up with armed agents and they sift through your stuff and throw you out of your house. You must not have seen such a thing before, but it happens.
@PatrickLMT That's not dishonesty, when there is a clear dichotomy, and you cannot explain why it's a false dichotomy, then YOU'RE the one who's being dishonest. Just people because subcounciously realize there is violence backing legality and decide to comply not to be violated doesn't mean there is no violence. It just means they value paying a tax more than their ass in a cage. Not that i value the services from my taxes. You're rationalising.
@PatrickLMT Rationalising evils and inconsistencies are self-destructive. You're not fooling anyone but yourself. There is no way this system can survive longer than 2 decades, i hope you'll live to see the creature you people have created going out of control.
Changing the words and definitions do not change reality.
But if it's "mandatory" doesn't that mean the person not paying taxes will go to jail? Isn't that the use of force? Then wouldn't mandatory be the same thing as forced? Please explain.
he's not perfect but at least he is not a media pussy cat that listens to politicians feed him BS and not challenge them. we need more interviewers like him at major media outlets. nice to hear words like "logic, principle, and justice" be spoken in front of powerful politicians.
The Libertarian Party seems to favor Jan's interview of Senator Reid where Jan argues that taxation is theft and yet the LP will not explicitly take this position. In fact, they suggest that we replace the income tax with the oxymoronic "fair" tax. It is such lack of principle on this and other issues that caused me to resign my life membership in the Libertarian Party. Their increasingly wishy-washy, pro-government positions do more harm than good. And they STILL don't get elected. It's sad.
@peterscottfrost You have to think like a progressive as it will be impossible to suddenly eliminate taxes but with small changes at a time to get the desire result.
Awesome. I live in Maryland, but on the Eastern Shore. I am going to Towson University next year and it would be awesome to see him in a lecture or something. I hope to become part of a libertarian club once I get there.
Jan is THE MAN. Great interview!
possenti 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT Just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it right. All governments are thieves. And I don't want a government. Government is coercion, nothing more.
peterscottfrost 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT We don't want a government at all if you're not an inconsistent libertarian philosopher. If government was so damn great that people would voluntarily donate to it why institute the IRS? Why not let people know on national TV; "Hey by the way, you don't HAVE to pay your taxes. We won't threaten you if you do not pay!"
ExquisiteDoom 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT Patrick, did you ever try not paying your taxes? Because i have a couple of friends whom could show you just how full of shit you are and they're CANADIAN. A friendly country, threatening it's own citizens for money. I agree with you the US couldn't possibly audit all the tax evaders but ask anyone what would happen to them if they didn't pay their taxes? Would the IRS hold back? Really? Are you THAT dense? Just because there is no law doesn't mean the IRS will just chill.
ExquisiteDoom 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT
It is forced by the IRS. The IRS shows up with armed agents and they sift through your stuff and throw you out of your house. You must not have seen such a thing before, but it happens.
D0g63rt 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT That's not dishonesty, when there is a clear dichotomy, and you cannot explain why it's a false dichotomy, then YOU'RE the one who's being dishonest. Just people because subcounciously realize there is violence backing legality and decide to comply not to be violated doesn't mean there is no violence. It just means they value paying a tax more than their ass in a cage. Not that i value the services from my taxes. You're rationalising.
ExquisiteDoom 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT Rationalising evils and inconsistencies are self-destructive. You're not fooling anyone but yourself. There is no way this system can survive longer than 2 decades, i hope you'll live to see the creature you people have created going out of control.
Changing the words and definitions do not change reality.
ExquisiteDoom 1 year ago
But if it's "mandatory" doesn't that mean the person not paying taxes will go to jail? Isn't that the use of force? Then wouldn't mandatory be the same thing as forced? Please explain.
eerik123455 1 year ago
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@PatrickLMT
If a thug points a gun to your head and says "GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY"
and you do, I guess your actions were completely voluntary
because you CHOOSE not to temp him to kill or mame you.
Reids argument is simply RIDICULOUS!!
jolow2 1 year ago
@PatrickLMT - you're a bigger idiot than reid and obviously a political hack.
pezmiztix 1 year ago
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Poor Jan. The under-achieving embarrassment to a successful family, who does nothing of substance, but continually craves attention.
PennEmes 2 years ago
he's not perfect but at least he is not a media pussy cat that listens to politicians feed him BS and not challenge them. we need more interviewers like him at major media outlets. nice to hear words like "logic, principle, and justice" be spoken in front of powerful politicians.
soundmoneyfan 2 years ago 3
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this man supports the killing of the speaker of the house DEPORT THRE SPIC!!!!!!!!!
wkruk1979 2 years ago
You are a true patriot. Keep up the good work exposing these clowns for who they are!
bigdogphoto 2 years ago 4
Great video quality!
atrickpay11 2 years ago
The Libertarian Party seems to favor Jan's interview of Senator Reid where Jan argues that taxation is theft and yet the LP will not explicitly take this position. In fact, they suggest that we replace the income tax with the oxymoronic "fair" tax. It is such lack of principle on this and other issues that caused me to resign my life membership in the Libertarian Party. Their increasingly wishy-washy, pro-government positions do more harm than good. And they STILL don't get elected. It's sad.
peterscottfrost 2 years ago 11
@peterscottfrost You have to think like a progressive as it will be impossible to suddenly eliminate taxes but with small changes at a time to get the desire result.
JibaroTruth 1 year ago
Wow! Jan is the best!
medliberty 2 years ago
When he asked "Well where do you live?" I would of said "Your Mom's house." Hehe, I'm bad like that. :p
SonictheBedHog 2 years ago 2
Thanks for introducing me to this interviewer, he seems like he is really good.
HarryNRubin 2 years ago 3
He is in the DC area and willing to help teach Libertarians how to conduct strong interviews.
LibertarianParty 2 years ago
Awesome. I live in Maryland, but on the Eastern Shore. I am going to Towson University next year and it would be awesome to see him in a lecture or something. I hope to become part of a libertarian club once I get there.
HarryNRubin 2 years ago
Its a sad state of affairs when someone must justifiably be afraid of angering a government official in America.
Good job Mr. Helfeld and thanks to LP for the post.
harryogre 2 years ago 9