I'm definitely feeling this video. This is why I always use the "quote-unquote" finger gesture when I tell people that I can "master" their songs. I'm really happy I saw this video, because it just proves my speculation on recording engineers who say they professionally master their songs.
yo nigga, dont be too unkind with your word you are take off the merit of many guys that dont made high school but realy can do the same master results with their softwares, the same results than you and other engineers take out.
@gmarildo2002 I dont take what you're saying personal. I'm just speaking on those that dont know what their doing. Those who havent done their research. I have every mastering plugin in the world, but that doesnt mean that I'm gonna front like I'm a professoinal mastering engineer. Some people dont even know what a mastering facility looks like. I know real mastering engineers that have been in this business 20+ years and trust me. There is a difference.
Jaz, gimme an email and i'll send you a file mastered with a pair of headphones (good ones nonetheless) but a solitary pair of headphones. and i promise you, you can give the RAW FILE (source file from which the final came) to ANYONE, and they will not be able to do better than what i did with it. Much of this "never-master-your-own-shit" shit has been propagated by opportunists in the industry who know their business dwindles as ppl bcome more alert. the exceptions to this "rule" are growing.
This guy is right, a mastering engineer is a totally different art than a mixing/recording engineer. And the equipment is a far cry from each other too. Secondly mastering equipment can start at the $10k range and up!
You just said all the right words . Gotta say i doubt most producers / engineers nowadays , but i can see you know some things about mastering . Keep it up !
Honestly yall, you don't have to spend years upon years to learn mastering or anything. Some ppl learn fast some have to take their time. It's all about commitment and studies. If you only spend one hour everyday learning mastering, you can't compare urself to someone that spend ten hours everyday doing the same thing. And that person will def catch up quicker. And also music biz is division of labour, u can't do it all. u gat to specialize in one or two aspect and leave the rest to others.
Thanks man, way to keep it real, to the point. I respect that your not coming off as some guy who thinks he's an expert, but more as a musician, as an artist, looking to give out help to those of us making it happen.
So thank you a ton. It's getting clear for me know.
Nice looking rig! This guy is absolutely right about mastering. Never let the mixer do the mastering. ESPECIALLY if you like the mix. Now it needs to go to a new experienced set of ears with whole other skills. If the mixer can do anything to improve his mix, then he should do it in the mix. A good mastering facility has more money invested in the monitors than most of us have in our whole studios. Jaz has a great looking studio and has his head in the right place.
Seriously guys you all need to chill and be nice :) LOL
You have all made valid points about mastering, if you get your tracks sounding right in the first place I.e all your sounds sitting in the right frequency spectrum it makes life so much easier for you to mix down your tracks yourself.. not EQ'ing the hell out of each sound to the point of making the listers ears bleed with all those unecessary harmonics, phasing and other crap.. be mindful of your sounds..trust me it will pay off :)
most bamas posting these vids don't even reply to the "lamens" so good looks on a reply. Suffice to say, pay someone to this work for you; and I'm def with you on that Jaz...
@FiLdUbz He is mostly right,but its not all about thousands od bucks on equipment ..its a having a good mix to work with 1st .2nd a good mastering engineer..and if the engineer has protools hd/waves/ good monitors/ then you can get a pro MASTER..I have my own mastering company and ive been mixing and mastering since 2000..if your good at both your just good at both....and the comin man dont have 2,000 bucks to spend on 1track thats crazy...oh yeah and you suposed to let them here before & after
Glad someones made this clear lol. I mean its like with us in music technology in college we learn how to mix, and we get some lessons on mastering but like u say its a protools plug in not how real mastering is like, Basically people who can master are like magicians
why the fuck would you pay a mafucka that gave you the same shit back? That's called being a sucka.
Anyone can master. Ain't no gas in a track that goes from weak to bumpin' after a lot of tweaking. Ain't no pre-mastering, that right there IS mastering. If ya shit sounds good in ear plugs and 3ooo watt systems, that's called mastering.
Mastering, a form of audio post-production, is the process of preparing and transferring recorded audio from a source containing the final mix to another final data disc or tape... so my music is compressed just right, and will sound great in shitty speakers and huge systems. I think your the lost one... keep the mastering to the ones who know son.
Actually that is just a part of it. There is more to it then just making your shit sound good on different systems. What about making each song so they sound like they fit together? Making each track on a album the proper volume from track to track? Having the proper harmonics from track to track the same? And that shit sounds like you copied and pasted it straight out of a book. You said "anyone can master" in your previous post. That shit is so far from the truth it's not even funny.
What I'm saying is a mastering is a LEARNED SKILL. It can be learned. These engineers aren't magician's, they were taught their skills. The flow electricity, the way the boards interact with each, even the individual noise the boards at to your final mix. Don't know what your talking about man, you replied to me in the same, but I was concise with my comment. This guy says some people get dicked, I said "fuck that, do it yourself". Whats the problem? An thanx, I didnt read any books on this.
"Having the proper harmonics from track to track the same?" Now that was ignorant. So my synth in track one is supposed to sonically sound the same as my organ in track 2? maybe I want distortion, yo ass would eq out prolly, LOL. Normalizing volumes, thats all you got? You basically talked about normalizing the volumes across tracks ya whole post. lol, again, mastering is a learned skill, you aren't born with it.
you guys are both right in what you say. I've been doing this 15 years and to this day I don't do mastering. It is definitely a learned artform that takes a score (20 years) and then some to perfect.
you guys are both right in what you say. I've been doing this 15 years and to this day I don't do mastering. It is definitely a learned artform that takes a score (20 years) and then some to perfect.
FiLdUbz..your right, but also as well as being compressed enough for radio/DJ's/club sound systems etc it has to be dynamic, its a tough job to get it right, i master tracks for various labels associated with dance music as well as my own music, its a real science that not everyone can get theyre head around..
Yeah, as far as that goes, every track has to match the others' harmonics & sound quality, versus how that album sounds, next to OTHER albums, as to ready a track for radio play.
I "master" my own tracks, which is jacked bc I do the most solid engineering, in my area!
Man we just got a quote from Brian Gardner and its way more then $2000 a track, he charges hourly. A little over $3000 an hour, but he is def up there with the top mastering engineers. Appreciate this videos because alot of ppl dont know what real mastering is, and even more ppl claim they "master". Im a mix engineer and i know how important it is to get your finished mix into the right hands. Good looks yo, stay up!
Let Me Ask A ? Did Michael Jordan go to school to learn how to play Basketball? Can't no school tech you how to play like MJ. They can teach you what you need to do and know. That's A God Gift. And Some people have a Gift of Understanding. Mastering is not about leveling off tracks, But it's good to do this when you more than one song being master at the same time. Mastering is making sure that your track will not fall down in Radio, FQ, EQ, Comp, Sweeting, Only because Radio Compress Audio
There are no guidelines in music (or skills in general). That's like me saying you can only perfect playing the piano around 10 years too. That doesn't explain kids a 5th my age playing better than others who have been at it for 20.
I know what mastering is but I am not a true mastering engineer. It's related to a mixing engineer but not the same. The equipment used is also similar but different.
well it's not a plug-in that magically sets the volume level. You have to tweak it yourself of course. Also in mastering making the record sound louder is most often a combination of compression and maximizing/limiting.
A maximizer/limiter (same thing) is in simple terms a compression with a very high ratio (10:1) and a very vast attack.
You'll have to learn how to use it or you'll squash your recording.
Thank You, It took me about 3yrs to understand mastering, Once I understood Mastering it was great, I Email A track over to Big Bass so he could give me a sample of mastering. Man did that track come back bump'in And man did he teach me something. I ask Man what did you do. He said to me You can just about master with anything if you know and understand mastering. That's just a long story short. Mastering Today is in a Box And Understanding. 25yrs In The Game
This is helpful. I currently go to school for a Bachelor of Fine Arts in audio and I record and mix in my home studio and a recent client keeps referring to when I'm done "mixing and mastering and all" and I must keep correcting him because mastering like you said is an entire different ball game. Luckily this is a "mix tape" CD and the "cheap master" compression trick will suffice, but anybody that I record must read the disclaimer *this is record and mix only* Good info PEACE!
If people need 'mastering' in the sense that they want it to (as you said) sounds equal in volume in relation to the other songs and it's not for commercial work then it should be fine. If you what you seek is a commercial release GO the a dedicated mastering studio. One thing you didn't address was the difference between mastering and mixing. A lot of people don't know and often use the wrong terminology. Also note that a crap mix can't be fixed by a mastering engineer.
I'm definitely feeling this video. This is why I always use the "quote-unquote" finger gesture when I tell people that I can "master" their songs. I'm really happy I saw this video, because it just proves my speculation on recording engineers who say they professionally master their songs.
zinzeta 6 months ago
yo nigga, dont be too unkind with your word you are take off the merit of many guys that dont made high school but realy can do the same master results with their softwares, the same results than you and other engineers take out.
with all do respect.
gmarildo2002 9 months ago
@gmarildo2002 I dont take what you're saying personal. I'm just speaking on those that dont know what their doing. Those who havent done their research. I have every mastering plugin in the world, but that doesnt mean that I'm gonna front like I'm a professoinal mastering engineer. Some people dont even know what a mastering facility looks like. I know real mastering engineers that have been in this business 20+ years and trust me. There is a difference.
dversjaz 9 months ago
very informative......thanks
jamesplasencia 1 year ago
Jaz, gimme an email and i'll send you a file mastered with a pair of headphones (good ones nonetheless) but a solitary pair of headphones. and i promise you, you can give the RAW FILE (source file from which the final came) to ANYONE, and they will not be able to do better than what i did with it. Much of this "never-master-your-own-shit" shit has been propagated by opportunists in the industry who know their business dwindles as ppl bcome more alert. the exceptions to this "rule" are growing.
LiarsNightmare 1 year ago
This guy is right, a mastering engineer is a totally different art than a mixing/recording engineer. And the equipment is a far cry from each other too. Secondly mastering equipment can start at the $10k range and up!
pbee73 1 year ago
the mastering engineers have something that most don't and i'm not talking about equipment, its there ears- 20 years of listening-
kingtoadius 1 year ago
You just said all the right words . Gotta say i doubt most producers / engineers nowadays , but i can see you know some things about mastering . Keep it up !
94incurabil 1 year ago
Honestly yall, you don't have to spend years upon years to learn mastering or anything. Some ppl learn fast some have to take their time. It's all about commitment and studies. If you only spend one hour everyday learning mastering, you can't compare urself to someone that spend ten hours everyday doing the same thing. And that person will def catch up quicker. And also music biz is division of labour, u can't do it all. u gat to specialize in one or two aspect and leave the rest to others.
afrojoeyall 1 year ago
With all that equipment you'd think you would have some heat in that studio.
Aetern142 1 year ago
Thanks man, way to keep it real, to the point. I respect that your not coming off as some guy who thinks he's an expert, but more as a musician, as an artist, looking to give out help to those of us making it happen.
So thank you a ton. It's getting clear for me know.
-from FLA
JaMaph 1 year ago
Amen
RainKingRec 2 years ago
Nice looking rig! This guy is absolutely right about mastering. Never let the mixer do the mastering. ESPECIALLY if you like the mix. Now it needs to go to a new experienced set of ears with whole other skills. If the mixer can do anything to improve his mix, then he should do it in the mix. A good mastering facility has more money invested in the monitors than most of us have in our whole studios. Jaz has a great looking studio and has his head in the right place.
TheProgmagog 2 years ago
Seriously guys you all need to chill and be nice :) LOL
You have all made valid points about mastering, if you get your tracks sounding right in the first place I.e all your sounds sitting in the right frequency spectrum it makes life so much easier for you to mix down your tracks yourself.. not EQ'ing the hell out of each sound to the point of making the listers ears bleed with all those unecessary harmonics, phasing and other crap.. be mindful of your sounds..trust me it will pay off :)
beatsanctuary 2 years ago
0:12 LOL LOL
davidny360 2 years ago
You are totally correct !!!!
majormixer 2 years ago
hey you're right. someone understands out there. it's easy to fool someone, but true mastering comes from real fine euipment and years of experience.
GjonetoOfficialPage 2 years ago
most bamas posting these vids don't even reply to the "lamens" so good looks on a reply. Suffice to say, pay someone to this work for you; and I'm def with you on that Jaz...
FiLdUbz 2 years ago
@FiLdUbz He is mostly right,but its not all about thousands od bucks on equipment ..its a having a good mix to work with 1st .2nd a good mastering engineer..and if the engineer has protools hd/waves/ good monitors/ then you can get a pro MASTER..I have my own mastering company and ive been mixing and mastering since 2000..if your good at both your just good at both....and the comin man dont have 2,000 bucks to spend on 1track thats crazy...oh yeah and you suposed to let them here before & after
TheMello45 1 year ago
Glad someones made this clear lol. I mean its like with us in music technology in college we learn how to mix, and we get some lessons on mastering but like u say its a protools plug in not how real mastering is like, Basically people who can master are like magicians
jonathanburr89 2 years ago
why the fuck would you pay a mafucka that gave you the same shit back? That's called being a sucka.
Anyone can master. Ain't no gas in a track that goes from weak to bumpin' after a lot of tweaking. Ain't no pre-mastering, that right there IS mastering. If ya shit sounds good in ear plugs and 3ooo watt systems, that's called mastering.
FiLdUbz 2 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? After reading this comment, there is no doubt in my mind that you have no idea what mastering is.
absurdny 2 years ago
Mastering, a form of audio post-production, is the process of preparing and transferring recorded audio from a source containing the final mix to another final data disc or tape... so my music is compressed just right, and will sound great in shitty speakers and huge systems. I think your the lost one... keep the mastering to the ones who know son.
FiLdUbz 2 years ago
Actually that is just a part of it. There is more to it then just making your shit sound good on different systems. What about making each song so they sound like they fit together? Making each track on a album the proper volume from track to track? Having the proper harmonics from track to track the same? And that shit sounds like you copied and pasted it straight out of a book. You said "anyone can master" in your previous post. That shit is so far from the truth it's not even funny.
absurdny 2 years ago
What I'm saying is a mastering is a LEARNED SKILL. It can be learned. These engineers aren't magician's, they were taught their skills. The flow electricity, the way the boards interact with each, even the individual noise the boards at to your final mix. Don't know what your talking about man, you replied to me in the same, but I was concise with my comment. This guy says some people get dicked, I said "fuck that, do it yourself". Whats the problem? An thanx, I didnt read any books on this.
FiLdUbz 2 years ago
"Having the proper harmonics from track to track the same?" Now that was ignorant. So my synth in track one is supposed to sonically sound the same as my organ in track 2? maybe I want distortion, yo ass would eq out prolly, LOL. Normalizing volumes, thats all you got? You basically talked about normalizing the volumes across tracks ya whole post. lol, again, mastering is a learned skill, you aren't born with it.
FiLdUbz 2 years ago
you guys are both right in what you say. I've been doing this 15 years and to this day I don't do mastering. It is definitely a learned artform that takes a score (20 years) and then some to perfect.
dversjaz 2 years ago
you guys are both right in what you say. I've been doing this 15 years and to this day I don't do mastering. It is definitely a learned artform that takes a score (20 years) and then some to perfect.
dversjaz 2 years ago
FiLdUbz..your right, but also as well as being compressed enough for radio/DJ's/club sound systems etc it has to be dynamic, its a tough job to get it right, i master tracks for various labels associated with dance music as well as my own music, its a real science that not everyone can get theyre head around..
beatsanctuary 2 years ago
Yeah, as far as that goes, every track has to match the others' harmonics & sound quality, versus how that album sounds, next to OTHER albums, as to ready a track for radio play.
I "master" my own tracks, which is jacked bc I do the most solid engineering, in my area!
Great info!
MarcusDarling4026 2 years ago
Peace very informative
houseofjrk 2 years ago
So true man.. nice video
Gtrplyr1 2 years ago
Man we just got a quote from Brian Gardner and its way more then $2000 a track, he charges hourly. A little over $3000 an hour, but he is def up there with the top mastering engineers. Appreciate this videos because alot of ppl dont know what real mastering is, and even more ppl claim they "master". Im a mix engineer and i know how important it is to get your finished mix into the right hands. Good looks yo, stay up!
RecruitsThc 3 years ago 2
man i can master it sound like big studio stuf
takafinir 3 years ago
i can master any sogn way cheaper than that "
get at me people "
band1daje 3 years ago
mix AND mastering is a no go anyway. period
cemski 3 years ago
He is speaking truth!! When incredible mix guys like Jon Gass take their mixes to a mastering guy, you know there is something going on.
ausmac 3 years ago
Let Me Ask A ? Did Michael Jordan go to school to learn how to play Basketball? Can't no school tech you how to play like MJ. They can teach you what you need to do and know. That's A God Gift. And Some people have a Gift of Understanding. Mastering is not about leveling off tracks, But it's good to do this when you more than one song being master at the same time. Mastering is making sure that your track will not fall down in Radio, FQ, EQ, Comp, Sweeting, Only because Radio Compress Audio
gatlinproduction 3 years ago
There are no guidelines in music (or skills in general). That's like me saying you can only perfect playing the piano around 10 years too. That doesn't explain kids a 5th my age playing better than others who have been at it for 20.
I know what mastering is but I am not a true mastering engineer. It's related to a mixing engineer but not the same. The equipment used is also similar but different.
dazzelya 3 years ago
BUT there is also something called a cheap master. (Making sure that at least the levels match and the treble/bass levels are similar)
Yes I have tried proper mastering, my teacher was both a professional mixing and mastering engineer.
There is nothing you can tell me which I won't already know. Not to be arrogant. I spend most of my day studying and educating myself.
dazzelya 3 years ago
What it the name of that plug-in? the 1 that makes all the finished songs havethe samr volume level?...
wesomesouljiaz 3 years ago
what is the plug in that makes all the finished songs have the same volume level?
wesomesouljiaz 3 years ago
well it's not a plug-in that magically sets the volume level. You have to tweak it yourself of course. Also in mastering making the record sound louder is most often a combination of compression and maximizing/limiting.
A maximizer/limiter (same thing) is in simple terms a compression with a very high ratio (10:1) and a very vast attack.
You'll have to learn how to use it or you'll squash your recording.
dazzelya 3 years ago
Thank You, It took me about 3yrs to understand mastering, Once I understood Mastering it was great, I Email A track over to Big Bass so he could give me a sample of mastering. Man did that track come back bump'in And man did he teach me something. I ask Man what did you do. He said to me You can just about master with anything if you know and understand mastering. That's just a long story short. Mastering Today is in a Box And Understanding. 25yrs In The Game
gatlinproduction 3 years ago
True :)
darbodj 3 years ago
True words, man.
Peace!
LaatRasha 3 years ago
This is helpful. I currently go to school for a Bachelor of Fine Arts in audio and I record and mix in my home studio and a recent client keeps referring to when I'm done "mixing and mastering and all" and I must keep correcting him because mastering like you said is an entire different ball game. Luckily this is a "mix tape" CD and the "cheap master" compression trick will suffice, but anybody that I record must read the disclaimer *this is record and mix only* Good info PEACE!
xavier917 3 years ago
i went to school for mastering.
6thCreated 3 years ago
Bernie grundman or doug sax or any mastering place doesn't charge 2,000 per song bro they do an album for 2500 total.. jus a small correction there
rhoybee1 3 years ago
If people need 'mastering' in the sense that they want it to (as you said) sounds equal in volume in relation to the other songs and it's not for commercial work then it should be fine. If you what you seek is a commercial release GO the a dedicated mastering studio. One thing you didn't address was the difference between mastering and mixing. A lot of people don't know and often use the wrong terminology. Also note that a crap mix can't be fixed by a mastering engineer.
dazzelya 3 years ago
Good to get the word out there on "Mastering sharks", like you say, seek out dedicated mastering studios. Nice work!
mikedevelta 3 years ago
Good infoe!
slimmivy 3 years ago