Great video, it makes me laugh that the Canadians still love to give us grief about the most solid, most lasting country in the history of the world. Many an Empire came and went between 1783 and today but the USA remains, with her Constitution largely intact and her freedoms largely intact. (although it is under attack by the usual suspects)
@teckman3 Lol you're just pissed off because you won't face the fact that we (America) kicked your sorry asses in the Revolutionay War. Grow up man. And King George III was the one that got burnt cause he was ,well, a pussy. Think about it...
@TheOneWingedAngel12 Yes America really won the war didn't they despite having a French Naval blockade around the British, oh and keeping our main force busy in Europe to which King George even said to concentrate on Europe first then fight in America oh and Spain and the Dutch and French equipping and funding you, oh and you having a French army with you at Yorktown to help. It was not an American victory, you had allies and they did more to help you win.
The siege of Yorktown is also known in German historiography as "the German battle", because Germans played significant roles in all three armies, accounting for roughly one third of all forces involved. According to one estimate more than 2,500 German soldiers served at Yorktown with each of the British and French armies, and more than 3,000 German-Americans were in Washington's army.
The British lost at Yorktown because through some miracle of fate a French fleet under the Comte de Grasse was able to maintain control of the bay against a British force under the somewhat lackluster leadership of Admiral Thomas Graves.
Im British, the Revolutionary War is very interesting. I don't see the war as a British loss, it was almost like an American Civil War.
The Patriot side was filled with former British army soldiers, and people who were proud to be British Americans! They were very much proud of their British ascendency, but were against a King half way round the world telling them what to do.
Britain (if not ruled by a King) could have handled the situation better and America could have become like Canada.
@mrmemanme, The British had a stronger and better Navy then the French and the Redcoats also practiced with live ammunition which made them better than the other infantry in the world, but the British also had a smaller Army, the french on the other hand had a larger army but not as good (until Napoleonic era) the French didn't have as a good navy as the British. Long live HM!
@Joesolo13 Actually Ottawa didn't exist until about the mid 1820's. Even then it only began as a supply town for the timber trade. I do believe you're thinking of the burning of York in 1813 which resulted in approximately 300 US casualties compared to British regular and militia combined casualties of 150 killed and wounded. Compare that to the battle of Washington.
What's with all the hostility? Here let me sum up the war as simple as I can, The U.S wanted independence, the britain king was not having it, A shot was fired and the war started, The U.S won, there you have it.
@cscptdave yanks has not only an inferior complex towards the english, but also towards the southerners. Look at canada. Any southerner will understand why the french canadians want out, why they want to create their own country. That DESIRE has a meaning for all southernerners, at least for those who are a bit self aware, as well as aware of their own southern history.
Are there any Yanks on here whom can trace their ancestry back to these wars ? I very much doubt it... You probably can only do it for 100 years tops and you take their glory .. shame on you.. Your kin were probably 6000 miles away at the time..
@WTFBBQ5 If you were referring to Americans in general and making the common mistake of lumping us Southerners in with the "yanks" (a dirty word down South), then allow me to say that I am an American descendant of a British soldier in what we refer to as the French and Indian War of 1754-1763. I have traced my lineage back many centuries and have English, French and Scottish nobility, several knights, three Crusaders, a couple of Holy Roman Emperors, and even a Saint. We are not all ignorant.
As a Canadian I prefer American nationalist pride over stinking British arrogance. And as for the French, they are sore losers. That is why in Canada they had demanded to be recognized as a separate and distinct society.
@sicamousman No one is talking about British arrogance, the Scottish, the Welsh and the Northern Irish are not involved in the discussion. We are talking about the English. English people. They live in a country called England. It is the bigest country on the British Isles. You need to go back to school. And I will just have you know that Québec is the flower of Canada. (:
American revolutionary war was the most boring war in history, it was about as interesting as staring at dog shit. George Washington was a shit general and there were no good British generals either. It was nothing but an average French victory. The fact that it is made out to be an important war is outstandingly stupid. Who cares? Focus on the Napoleonic wars instead, for christ's sake.
@lukeisntgay You may laugh, little American boy, but I can assure you the only people on this planet who disagree with the fact that France won that war are the Americans themselves. The Americans are renouned world wide for being historically illiterate and nationalist. You should teach yourself some real history free from disgusting yank bias.
@lukeisntgay Because you are arrogant, you have not contributed anything good to the human race, you treat your allies like pets, you elect IDIOTS as your leader, you are a land full of Christian inbreds, you still believe in the bible in the 21st century, and your history is worthless and small!
@TheLiberalKnight A. saying we are arrogant is a stereotype that is far from true. B. WW1, WW2...lol. C. We are the boss ;o. D. True. E. We are diverse as hell.. F. Not all of us...just like every other country. G. This is the only place that in my school with 90 kids in the graduating class, i can find a kid with heritage from about 80% of the world
@lukeisntgay WW2, I think you'll find Russia was the boss, you idiot. I'll tell you a fact. In the battle of Stalingrad alone- just ONE BATTLE- Russia lost more men than America did in the ENTIRE WAR.
@TheLiberalKnight hahaha.......does that make them better or just idiotic..you cant even say we didnt do anything. plus i dont think wars were for your entertainment ....*cough* cunt * cough*
@TheLiberalKnight plus, people like you are funny, criticizing wars when you probaly dont even have the balls to defend your own. anyone who fights for their country would tell you to stfu.
@lukeisntgay I'm not denying American contribution to WW2. You actually played a part in WW2, unlike WW1, where your troops were weak, useless and pathetic. All I'm saying is that your contribution was not dominant. I would say WW2 was won by an equal contribution from the British Empire and USA, with Russia taking the largest share.
I can have any opinion I want on the military. My brother is in the air force. Being a soldier does not give you an intellectual advantage in a debate.
@lukeisntgay I never said war was boring. I'm saying that dumbasses like you going 'if you don't join the army, you can't talk about the military!' is pathetic. I can say what I want about the military. In the modern world, armies are not even needed that much any more. In the future, it is going to be about the air force and navy. Nuclear weapons states like Britain and America are invinsible to all non-nuclear state countries.
@lukeisntgay Yes, it was boring because it was in the middle of two far more important wars, the 7 years war and the Napoleonic wars. The American colonies were always meant to be independant anyway. They were too much of a financial burden on the government. The fact that some rebels fought with a tiny British garrison in the colonies and had to be rescued by the French meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not even Napoleon could see the great British plan when he sold you Louisania.
@TheLiberalKnight I agree that the Napoleonic Wars were of greater importance.
But if something, it was an average French AND Spanish victory. We helped the rebels since the beginning with money and supplies, and upon entering open war in 1779 we secured the southwest for the Americans. Needless to say this was of the utmost importance strategically.
Even the supplies and payroll for the Yorktown continentals were financed by a last minute collection from the citizens of Havana.
@HerrOttoKranz There is no denying that this war was a Spanish and French victory over Britain, not an American victory over Britain. The reason we lost is because our navy was under funded and we could not control the atlantic. Whatever the yanks may think, George Washington was a shit general and lost nearly every battle he got involved in.
I disagree that the war was a French or Spanish victory. Even after the American war, Britain still controlled the seas and was the major world power for up to 150/200 years after. France and Spain helped the Americans but none the less hadn't the power to match or stand against the British Navy and Army.
The American in time kicked both France and Spain from the Americas lol....that was the thanks they got!! haha
@51wins It was a French victory. Britain had just won the 7 years war and was badly in debt. We cut back the size of our military to pay back the money. When the civil war in the colonies began, the government forces won again and again. It was only when the French intervened that we started to lose the battles.
I totally understand that the French helped the Patriots in cretin ways so yes they helped in a way win the war....but what I mean is it didn't benefit France. Britain still was the major world power...infact Britain went on after the civil to create the largest empire in history!
@51wins At the time of the Colonist Civil War (that is what it actually is, not a revolution), Britain and France were pretty much even as far as power goes. Britain's wealth from her newly aquired empire was yet to come. The reason French intervention won this war is because they caught us with our armour off. We were cutting back on the military to pay back debts, thereby allowing the French to dominate the Atlantic sea, which is what lost us the war.
Cornwallis was a coward he could not even surrender in person. What a joke. Good thing we, Americans, keep this part of history alive. The war of American Independence is a very good example of how people did not want to put up with coloinalism B.S. of Great Britain. By the way Britian, along with France, is a big reason why we have alot of turmoial in Africa today. By the way Prussia75 get it right it was squirrel rifles that deffeated you!
@europachef Why should have to recognized such cultures in detail. Many of us, including myself, are mixed with so many different races. I'll call you "English" instead of "British" when you refer to me as German, Spanish, French, Aztec, Apache, Zapotec, and various others, instead of just American...
d'day was mainly the americans ,and the battle of britain was only won because german planes were focused on bombing london and besides when british planes attacked berlin the germans held out so it is also home ground. The british only were probably the weakest of the major powers in ww2
@CorsairJim Rorke's Drift? January 22, 1879...the same day as your entire 4th Regiment of foot was MASSACRED at Isandlwanah? That Rorker's Drift? Alamein...where AMERICAN Sherman tanks were first used right? And wasn't that AFTER the Russians effectively won the war in Europe before Moscow and the Stalingrad? Yes I know them all well. I never said you never won a battle, but you forgot your allies don't you. And sorry, you lost many a battle to the Americans BEFORE the French came.
@CorsairJim Well...you subjugated 25% of the world's population. And it clearly didn't last. Of course I know of the Armada - 1588 was it? Reaching WAY back - and Trafalgar - 1805. Your nation stemmed off invasion (with a LOT of help from the weather in the former.) As for the Third COalition War of which Trafalgar was a part, the French defeated your allies...Austerlitz ring a bell, eh what? The Boer War was nothing to be proud of, called your vietnam. The ZULU war? Really? [cont]
the british hardly did anything but hide and hope that the germans didn't sucsessfuly invade england and besides the british diserver little credit for the allied victory it was the russians at stalingrad and the americans
No wonder why so many ppl despise Americans finding them offensive. They can't even acknowledge the *English *nationality and so they keep calling the *English...British, yet they have no issue with recognizing the Welsh, Scottish or Irish nationalities, calling them Welsh, Scottish or Irish. I'm not even English, but find it highly OFFENSIVE as well as extremely ignorant. If Americans could start respecting other cultures and nationalties then perhaps people would respect the Americans.
@europachef You mean respect other cultures the way you ENGLISHMEN respected Scottish culture at Culloden? Or Irish culture with your man-made Potato Famine? Or Indian culture during the Sepoy Rebellion? Or Chinese culture during the Opium War? You mean show THAT kind of respect, guv'nah? Your entire history over the last 300 years was about how to serve the interests of your East India Tea Company. How proud you must be. We in America acknowledge our sins...we have many. Can you say same?
However that doesnt agitate me. what makes me angry is your doing this on our computers. please, if your trying to insult us, go get some ink, a feather, build a wooden ship with sails, and mail me a hate letter. not gunna let you fucking morons bitch about us on our inventented webpages hosted on our internet used on our computer being sent to our servers over our laid communication lines. thank you for you time, go ride a horse for another 3,000 years of existence.
@europachef that's because the americans has an inferior complex towards the english, it is deeply ingrained too. they will never admit to it of course. but any american reading this know it’s true. They can’t stand the english. also, a major cause for this is their shitty school system in which they are taught lies and half truths whilst the english are painted as criminals and the americans, of course, are painted as "we are the best the purest and the righteous". It starts in school, EARLY.
@knut761 you don't even know what you're talking about. None of you do. You Assume too much and stereotype as well. I'm seeing alot of hypocrisy here.
@knut761 How many Americans do you personally know and how much time have you actually spent in the U.S.A.? I don't agree with much in American politics, but I am Canadian by birth, Canadian/ American by heritage(my mother's family is American)and married to an American. I find most Americans to be no different than most Canadians.BUT I have worked with some recent British immigrants and have never known people with such an air of arrogance.
@knut761 We're studying the revolutionary, in our shitty school system of course, and as a thinking human being, I decided to become a "loyalist" in the curriculum, the average Briton paid 18 times more in taxes, only 10% of them owned land, mean while 4-5 shillings and 75% of the people owned land, they sold tea to us at less then it cost them to make it, and put a little tax on it, none of which are acknowledged in the California, Creating America History book.
@knut761 We in the South do not have an inferiority complex towards anyone, as that is a very un-Christian attitude. (We are not known as the Bible Belt for nothing, you know!) Yes, we are taught in school that the British - and every other nationality that has ever opposed the American government - was the "enemy" and were therefore inferior and inhuman, but that is due to the fact that our textbooks are written by northerners, who have been distorting history and twisting facts for centuries.
@cscptdave I am fully aware of the Yank cultural genocide towards the southerners (be they from Virginia, Georgia, the Carolinas or any other southern state) it's been ongoing since the war of northern aggression. We see it on television and in movies all of the time: how are the southerners always portrayed? precisely. You should have been your own country, well, you were for almost 5 years. Yanks have also managed to almost kill off all of your beautiful southern accents and dialects.
@knut761 Before the War, and truly ever since, northerners have always had an inferiority complex that manifests itself as just the opposite. They have to constantly and loudly proclaim their arrogance and supposed "superiority" in hopes that somebody somewhere will believe it. Northerners are generally a mongrel mixed-breed race and have always had it in for us Southerners. Too bad that so may of my fellow Confederates have become "reconstructed" over the years and bought in to the yankee lie.
@knut761 Well 1., you're generalizing and stereotyping. Unless you've been to the United States, you have no background proof for what you've just said. I'm American and I certainly can stand the English. I show no hate towards England as well as it's country, UK. Though, I greatly agree with you on your last statement of being taught lies at school. Luckily, I got out of that at an early age and moved to Europe, getting a real education. So no, not all of us are ignorant.
@europachef Well, for one, don't take the postings of a few ignorati/trolls on YouTube or other places on the net as indicative of an entire people/nation. ;) ;) ; )
@europachef it was a british defeat what else was it,there were regiments from all over that tiny island called great britain, what gets me is piss ant dots like scotland and ireland even get to say they are not english you could fit the whole tiny island in tasmania but you dont see tasmanians saying were not Australian.
@europachef Yet you're retarded enough not to know that it was the BRITISH Empire we were fighting. And not just english fought. Welsh, scottish, and irish all fight with the british crown. So please shut your ignorant fuck mouth.
@europachef I once heard two Spanish ladies in an elevator talking about Americans. I listened confusedly as they described us all as arrogant, rude and lacking in any form of manners, until I finally realized that what they were describing is the common everyday American from the north, that is, a yankee. We are as unlike they as the English are to the Irish, the Scots, or the Welsh. You are making the same error as they of whom you complain, in grouping everyone into the same broad category.
@europachef I'm Welsh, and honestly don't mind people just generally saying British. It's really the Public Schools fault though, they teach kids everyone from the UK is pretty much British.
@toonmag50 Washington fought the British and by any measure (held the field, inflicted more casualties, etc) and defeated them at Monmouth in a full European style line on line battle, with fife drums and bayonet charges which were supposedly the Redcoats' specialty. By 1778 the Continental Army had become, as one Brit write home, "a most formidable adversary." Washington didn't need to win. He just had to NOT LOSE while keeping his army together. That was his genius. His leadership and drive.
@Shafeone NB-pay the French for the use of the Navy and Army-they were indispensable at every battle the colonists claim victory,but you re all so full of the distortions of your education system,you ll be claiming victory in the vietnam war before long.Stalin and Hitler would be very impressed by your propaganda systems in the us
@toonmag50 Enlighten please then and tell me what indispensible Frenchman were present at the following battles in which the colonials WERE victorious (not 'claimed") or those in which they fought to the vaunted regulars a draw but inflicted heavier losses: Concord, Bunker Hill, Dorchester Heights, Trenton, Princeton, Saratoga, Monmouth, King's Mountain, Cowpens? I do not deny the French were invaluable. But the USA had to win a few on their own first in order to get their support.
@Shafeone amusingly ironic is the fact the amount of money and effort spent by France on your war,caused economic turmoil in France,which helped promote tensions which led to the overthrow of their monarchy in 1789-the same monarchy which the colonial anti-monachists allied themselves with- polite suggestion-try looking beyond the simple tit for tat battle recounts- tea her
@toonmag50 What's really amusing is that after claiming the French were indispensible at "every battle the colonists claim victory" and then I immediately respond with a laundry list of battles in which the USA was both victorious and alone on the battlefield, you switch the subject to telling me the obvious, and something I've never denied: That the French were immensely important in America achieving independence. I'll take you changing of the subject as ceding the point. Thanks for playing.
@cumbas No one denies that French support was essential. But to be fair there were no French troops at Lexington/Concord, Bunker Hill, Ft. Ticonderoga, Dorchester Hts., Trenton/Princeton, Monmouth, Cowpens, Kings Mountain, and, of course Saratoga. The war began in 1775. The French really didn't start to make a show of force until late 1779 even 1780. When they did, they decided the issue...certainly at sea and with their money to pay troops in hard coinage!
@jcolossale Is there a little hint of resentment there. I don't see why, look how successful your country is. Just rememeber, you and none of your country, nor Canada, would exist if we hadn't set sail to expand our CONTROLLING empire. You wouldn't have had anyone to declare independence from, as you wouldn't even exist.
"Is there a little hint of resentment there. I don't see why, look how successful your country is. Just rememeber, you and none of your country, nor Canada, would exist if we hadn't set sail to expand our CONTROLLING empire. You wouldn't have had anyone to declare independence from, as you wouldn't even exist."
If you hadn't set sail North America would be a french speaking continent...
@Robineux99 We discovered north america, and considering our power and growth at the time, it would of been stupid not to expand into vacant lands, the French spent more time being bankrupt than making any significant efforts to expand their culture at the time.
Not really. Spanish Christopher Columbus discovered America..and then Italian Amerigo Vespucci came 4 years. And so ...500 years earlier Scandinavians were there. And mmm then we could argue the natives really discovered the continent. Trying to trace a country's roots is a never ending task. And then the reason France went "brankrupt" is because they spent so much resources helping the americans kick the british out...not before.
@Robineux99 The Americas was first discovered by a Chinese man, but thats besides the point. You also left out the fact that it was also the Netherlands and Spain who were also trying to undermine Britains influence in North America. Everyone knows its not who was on the land first but who can keep it, that are the true owners of the land, ther natives couldn't keep it. France was also bankrupt, WITHOUT the quotes, more times than just during the American Revolution.
Also England fucked themselves up because of greed. If they just stopped abusing their colonists resources and just sent strong political representatives or at least let them vote for their own representatives to solidify their ties americans would never have rebelled. At that time, americans were scared that british corruption would cross the atlantic and felt like second class citizens.
@Robineux99 And yes, the empire and the people who ran it were greedy, it was after all, the biggest and most successful empire the world had and has ever seen, why not try and take advantage of it as much as possible. On the contrary, the end result for most of Britains former colonies was a positive one, look how successful America is, and also Canada and Australia. They probably felt like second class citizens because thats more of less how an empire works, one dominating country.
America's success: After the british were kicked out and the country's ressources back to its people. Australian success: Made by their own. Australia was used as a prison islands for convicts and deportees like acadiens...
Canada success: the british were scared the american revolution would come up there so they gave the franco population several rights they had denied before or they would have accepted the american offer to kick the rest of the brits out.
@Robineux99 Yes the history of both countries is colourful, im still immensely proud of my country and it's limitless achievements. America, nor Canada, nor Australia would even exist if it wasnt for the United Kingdom, they wouldn't speak french either as you said earlier, the resources we put into colonizing north america would of been pumped into our war with France and they would of been destroyed and bankrupt, not for the last time. Nor would india and pakistan be as they are.
@Robineux99 Also you say "The resources back to the people"?, the founding fathers of America were BRITISH, so the resources that resided within its boundaries were BRITISH, thats why we were able to claim taxes and call you our colony in the first place!. Believe me young man, the war of independence could of been won by either side. Arrogance can only get you so far, America did this and America did that, yes America has alot to be proud of, but dont forget who put you here.
Yes : Who likes to send taxes abroad? The ressources that resided within were for the people working the land not from some crowned dump oversea. This goes for the french too. And first of all the land and the ressources were not "BRITISH", this was all stolen from the natives with the difference that the british were less respectful of the natives than the french were. And also, you don't have a clue about my age...young man.
@Robineux99 Who likes to pay taxes at all?, the resources within a countries boundaries are under control of its government and worked by its people, not the other way around, you cant just go to a gold mine and take as much as you want. This "dump" dickhead, created the biggest empire this race has ever seen, and created the foundations of the land you stand on, among countless other. Fuck the french, they arnt worth shit. Iraq's oil is their peoples i suppose aswell?
Irak's oil should be theirs...the fact that you believe otherwise is just proof of your deep deep stupidity. Also if you don't care about my age why are you saying "young man"? And if history had taken a different turn? what turn? history is not made of "would". Also it's "if you weren't" not "if you "wasnt". Fuck the french? only the french? You should add the scotts, the Irish, american natives, acadians, americans.
Gawd Keep your shirt on. The matter of the fact is while the french were in for the profit just like the british empire, they never resorted to cheap tactics like deportation or ethnic cleansing with mmm..let's say smallpox blankets. Listen I don't have anything against the England..you know..I like the Beatles..and the Rolling Stones... but what the ancestors did and the way they did it...rascals. All the colonies weren't "maintained" but sucked dry...
@Robineux99 lol I it's funny how some americans start off by saying ".......but hey I like England, I like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones" like they're our only 2 achievements. I don't need you to correct my grammer, as long as you recognise my point, that will do. Ivan the Terrible would throw babies up in the air and catch them on his sword, Vlad the impaler would impale people through their anus while they were still alive, history is full of evil behavior.
@Robineux99 Me saying Iraq's oil belongs to the iraqi's in a sarcastic way, suggests that we all know the oil wont be under the control of normal iraqi's, people fight for things in life this shouldn't be news to you, and GAWD my shirt is on, its one thing to be proud of your country, as you should be, but not if it comes at the expense of my own. If the colonies were so "sucked dry" as you say, would those countries of reached the prosperity they have today?
"If the colonies were so "sucked dry" as you say, would those countries of reached the prosperity they have today?
Not if the brits hadn't been kicked out quickly like it happened.
"Me saying Iraq's oil belongs to the iraqi's in a sarcastic way
Funny in a previous post you were defending the right of colonial powers to take the ressources of conquered countries and now your comment is sarcasm
Oh and btw..I am not american I just see things how they were.
1- I saw this documentary last weekend : A chinese man discovering america based on a single piece of rock is theoretical and refuted by all anthropologists but one chinese colleague.
2- Scotland, Ireland, Quebec, Pakistan, india, Hong Kong...what do they all had/have as a common goal? I'll let you ponder.
3- I also like Led Zeppelin..please don't use your logic to conclude that I am a nazi.
@Robineux99 I dont care for your age, nor do I care for your attitude, its common knowledge that things were/are taken from weaker rivals, there are countless examples throughout history, if you wasnt so naive you would be able to grasp this simple fact. Anyway, enjoy your freedom and independence, because had history taken a slightly different turn, you would still be a colony of this land, built, owned and maintained by the crown and it's people
@gibraltarisenglish when the british surrendered at singapore they outnumbered the japs 4 to 1 , historians recon that when some of the british lower officers saw how small the japanese invading force was they wanted to shoot their SUPERIORS and not the JAPS ! he he he he he
There is no American insecurity, nor a desire to insult the British, whom we consider our closest ally. There IS a desire, however, to insult whiny, snooty, individuals, who we know won't be able to take it, and will throw a prissy little school girl fit.
Oh, by the way, thanks for the history lesson. It was very refreshing.
To put it more accurately, it was the British armed forces fighting against Germans, Irish, Scots, Dutch, French, Native Americans, Spanish, and host of other nations’ citizens, AND transplanted Englishman.
You wouldn't exist without the English to begin with, let alone the French...so calm down (:
The war of independence was actually English people fighting English people, that's right, even the Southerner himself (from the old dominion, Virginia) George Washington!!, said "fighting for the right of every Englishman", perhaps you should study your countries history a bit more? It was an English civil war in the colonies which only *later took the shape of what later became "American".
@ericvandenhaas Our ancesters were the colonies... We are of english decent, but we are not going to call ourselves english because we are not born in england, we are Americans. Lets say your father moved to america from Great Britain, then you were born, does that mean you are not your fathers son because you were born in a country other than that of your fathers. You don't just lose your history by merely moving countries.
@ericvandenhaas Actually your statement is wrong. The french came in after America had already won several key victories and forces the the surrender of entire british army by themselves. Sure the french helped but by that time it was clearly going against the british. Who simple did not have the troops to cover all the Territory or the supplies or the troops to protect them
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@71259mark - no we aren't sore losers just people who study the truth of things, we lost, we know that, we have lost before elsewhere and lost held territory too, there just seems to be an American insecurity that seems to need to back up everything by altering history and insult the UK on every video, even troop tribute videos, this makes us angry at such blatant ignorance....
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For example, the Smithsonian withdrew all support for the filme the Patrot since it was a crock of shit. Tarleton (Tavington) lived for 50 more years, US rebels hung and raped anyone who didnt join them, British looked after and released injured prisoners on parole to gain support and didnt shoot them, Rebels slaughtered any loyalist americans they came across, Black people werent free in the South, no quarter was given by the Patriots at any time.
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....The reasons for the tax was to pay off the French & Indian war debt and for a war chest for future protection of the colonies, Patriots weren't prisoners and the united states ended up immediately after the war in a mess. Denial of French, Spanish and Dutch involvement to a high degree, Britain's existence being at risk and therefore less attention being paid to the colonies and the 100K loyalist refugee march north. Add that with Charles Lynch (mob) and you see no wonder we are pissed.
@71259mark I forgot the reneging on treaty agreements in a time of honour and the fact that it was the Patriot hunger for land not the British aristocracy proven by the proclamation act of 1763 that was evident. At the end let me say that I am not an Anti-American if you can beleive it, just a proud Englishmen who acknowledges your victory and your current status as our allies along with the truth behind all matters.
There is no American insecurity, nor a desire to insult the British, whom we consider our closest ally. There IS a desire, however, to insult whiny, snooty, individuals, who we know won't be able to take it, and will throw a prissy little school girl fit.
Oh, by the way, thanks for the history lesson. It was very refreshing.
@ericvandenhaas To put it more accurately, it was the British armed forces fighting against Germans, Irish, Scots, Dutch, French, Native Americans, Spanish, and host of other nations’ citizens, AND transplanted Englishman.
@ericvandenhaas But an argument like that will always lead to "people originated from Africa, so every human endeavour in history has actually been undertaken by an African".
@ericvandenhaas actually thats far from true, im a native southern american, and my ancestors consist of armenian, cherokee indian, and german, no weak british blood in me, we came from all over the world to the colonies, not just from england, there were just as much irish imigrants, which were your mortal enemies back then, and lets see we fought england and beat yalls ass TWICE u can always make excuses but the stone cold facts are that we beat yall, we can fight, yall cannot, so calm down:)
@ericvandenhaas In The Early Part of the Revolutionary War, it was British fighting British. However, the rebels declared the US as an independent country in July 4th 1776 therefore making them officially American.
Great video, it makes me laugh that the Canadians still love to give us grief about the most solid, most lasting country in the history of the world. Many an Empire came and went between 1783 and today but the USA remains, with her Constitution largely intact and her freedoms largely intact. (although it is under attack by the usual suspects)
GershomMontana2006 5 days ago
@teckman3 With All due respect sir, in 1812 the first lady took the painting of washington. So before you insult us, get your facts straight.
MRAIRTIME112 1 week ago
@teckman3 Lol you're just pissed off because you won't face the fact that we (America) kicked your sorry asses in the Revolutionay War. Grow up man. And King George III was the one that got burnt cause he was ,well, a pussy. Think about it...
TheOneWingedAngel12 1 month ago
@TheOneWingedAngel12 Yes America really won the war didn't they despite having a French Naval blockade around the British, oh and keeping our main force busy in Europe to which King George even said to concentrate on Europe first then fight in America oh and Spain and the Dutch and French equipping and funding you, oh and you having a French army with you at Yorktown to help. It was not an American victory, you had allies and they did more to help you win.
Reverbful 1 month ago
@Reverbful and the british had the hessians and many indians fighting on there side and still lost so what's your point?
jcolossale 4 weeks ago
The siege of Yorktown is also known in German historiography as "the German battle", because Germans played significant roles in all three armies, accounting for roughly one third of all forces involved. According to one estimate more than 2,500 German soldiers served at Yorktown with each of the British and French armies, and more than 3,000 German-Americans were in Washington's army.
charly403 1 month ago 2
The British lost at Yorktown because through some miracle of fate a French fleet under the Comte de Grasse was able to maintain control of the bay against a British force under the somewhat lackluster leadership of Admiral Thomas Graves.
korgaard59 1 month ago
Im British, the Revolutionary War is very interesting. I don't see the war as a British loss, it was almost like an American Civil War.
The Patriot side was filled with former British army soldiers, and people who were proud to be British Americans! They were very much proud of their British ascendency, but were against a King half way round the world telling them what to do.
Britain (if not ruled by a King) could have handled the situation better and America could have become like Canada.
51wins 1 month ago
now we are all BFF's hahah
040119863842 2 months ago
@PCgamertechtalk yes you burned the city but you also got your asses handed to you in the war - don't forget to mention that. :)
Tebok73509 2 months ago
I think this was the battle were GB had the smallest army and France had the largest army...oh yeah, it was!
mrmemanme 2 months ago
@mrmemanme, The British had a stronger and better Navy then the French and the Redcoats also practiced with live ammunition which made them better than the other infantry in the world, but the British also had a smaller Army, the french on the other hand had a larger army but not as good (until Napoleonic era) the French didn't have as a good navy as the British. Long live HM!
redcoat119 1 month ago
@redcoat119
On the land you pratically always need allies to fight the French alone so don't say anything .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@PCgamertechtalk We burned ottawa too, and without help from the most power country in the wolrd. UMAD?
Joesolo13 2 months ago
@Joesolo13 Actually Ottawa didn't exist until about the mid 1820's. Even then it only began as a supply town for the timber trade. I do believe you're thinking of the burning of York in 1813 which resulted in approximately 300 US casualties compared to British regular and militia combined casualties of 150 killed and wounded. Compare that to the battle of Washington.
Ofthehouseofbeards 2 months ago
@Ofthehouseofbeards We still burned it down :)
Joesolo13 2 months ago
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What's with all the hostility? Here let me sum up the war as simple as I can, The U.S wanted independence, the britain king was not having it, A shot was fired and the war started, The U.S won, there you have it.
DarkosApprentice 2 months ago
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This was not english people fighting english people, They became AMERICAN after they were Casted out from britain.
DarkosApprentice 2 months ago
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@PCgamertechtalk
Lol which city? there's over a thousand cities in the U.S, Or are you talking about the london riots? when britain burned? Haha
VETERANOUTLAW 3 months ago
History is written by the victors, get over it
ledzeppelin4ever1975 3 months ago
@nateboyism and you?
Ianbrow3 3 months ago
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Man i'm tired of all these crying brits haha you lost get over it.
VETERANOUTLAW 3 months ago
5:56 a midget soldier xD
tomatoboyZZ 3 months ago
did anyone notice the royal navy sailors next to the hessians?
zyzor 3 months ago 2
cornwallis looks pissed.
zyzor 3 months ago
@cscptdave yanks has not only an inferior complex towards the english, but also towards the southerners. Look at canada. Any southerner will understand why the french canadians want out, why they want to create their own country. That DESIRE has a meaning for all southernerners, at least for those who are a bit self aware, as well as aware of their own southern history.
knut761 3 months ago
Are there any Yanks on here whom can trace their ancestry back to these wars ? I very much doubt it... You probably can only do it for 100 years tops and you take their glory .. shame on you.. Your kin were probably 6000 miles away at the time..
YOU`RE ANCESTORS WERE NOT THERE !!!
I can trace mine back 800 years :)
WTFBBQ5 3 months ago
@WTFBBQ5
Yes I am a proud American of English descent that can trace my line back to the early 1600's in America
take care!!!
coldbrook2 3 months ago
@WTFBBQ5 If you were referring to Americans in general and making the common mistake of lumping us Southerners in with the "yanks" (a dirty word down South), then allow me to say that I am an American descendant of a British soldier in what we refer to as the French and Indian War of 1754-1763. I have traced my lineage back many centuries and have English, French and Scottish nobility, several knights, three Crusaders, a couple of Holy Roman Emperors, and even a Saint. We are not all ignorant.
cscptdave 3 months ago
@cscptdave
In general yes. Personally no.
Italian, Central European, African, Asian and others, whos familys migrated to the Americas over 100 years later take the glory of others.
BTW... Holy Roman Emperors ? We`ve all got that blood in us. lol !
Peace.
WTFBBQ5 3 months ago
whats the american theme music please
DarthVader9070 3 months ago
america............fuck ya!
shroomin1000 3 months ago
As a Canadian I prefer American nationalist pride over stinking British arrogance. And as for the French, they are sore losers. That is why in Canada they had demanded to be recognized as a separate and distinct society.
sicamousman 3 months ago
@sicamousman No one is talking about British arrogance, the Scottish, the Welsh and the Northern Irish are not involved in the discussion. We are talking about the English. English people. They live in a country called England. It is the bigest country on the British Isles. You need to go back to school. And I will just have you know that Québec is the flower of Canada. (:
knut761 3 months ago 4
fat guy at 0:40 is piching his nose XD
MitsosSasuke 3 months ago
The guys in the 7:05 are hesians ¿right?
APRINCESSTALE 3 months ago 3
American revolutionary war was the most boring war in history, it was about as interesting as staring at dog shit. George Washington was a shit general and there were no good British generals either. It was nothing but an average French victory. The fact that it is made out to be an important war is outstandingly stupid. Who cares? Focus on the Napoleonic wars instead, for christ's sake.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Freakin' troll
longof99 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Yeah, an average French victory that established a new powerful nation.
ethaninkl 3 months ago 8
@ethaninkl Asboloutely
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay You may laugh, little American boy, but I can assure you the only people on this planet who disagree with the fact that France won that war are the Americans themselves. The Americans are renouned world wide for being historically illiterate and nationalist. You should teach yourself some real history free from disgusting yank bias.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i live in the greatest country in the world hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay In your opinion. In everyone else's opinion, America is by far the worst western country.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight how.....
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay Because you are arrogant, you have not contributed anything good to the human race, you treat your allies like pets, you elect IDIOTS as your leader, you are a land full of Christian inbreds, you still believe in the bible in the 21st century, and your history is worthless and small!
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
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Wallonische 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight A. saying we are arrogant is a stereotype that is far from true. B. WW1, WW2...lol. C. We are the boss ;o. D. True. E. We are diverse as hell.. F. Not all of us...just like every other country. G. This is the only place that in my school with 90 kids in the graduating class, i can find a kid with heritage from about 80% of the world
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay WW2, I think you'll find Russia was the boss, you idiot. I'll tell you a fact. In the battle of Stalingrad alone- just ONE BATTLE- Russia lost more men than America did in the ENTIRE WAR.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight hahaha.......does that make them better or just idiotic..you cant even say we didnt do anything. plus i dont think wars were for your entertainment ....*cough* cunt * cough*
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight plus, people like you are funny, criticizing wars when you probaly dont even have the balls to defend your own. anyone who fights for their country would tell you to stfu.
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay I'm not denying American contribution to WW2. You actually played a part in WW2, unlike WW1, where your troops were weak, useless and pathetic. All I'm saying is that your contribution was not dominant. I would say WW2 was won by an equal contribution from the British Empire and USA, with Russia taking the largest share.
I can have any opinion I want on the military. My brother is in the air force. Being a soldier does not give you an intellectual advantage in a debate.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight no. but saying a war is boring? thats very ignorant. no war is "boring" unless its being fought on the computer...
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight plus were you there in ww1 to see how useless and pathetic we were..... smh armchair generals
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay I never said war was boring. I'm saying that dumbasses like you going 'if you don't join the army, you can't talk about the military!' is pathetic. I can say what I want about the military. In the modern world, armies are not even needed that much any more. In the future, it is going to be about the air force and navy. Nuclear weapons states like Britain and America are invinsible to all non-nuclear state countries.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight American revolutionary war was the most boring war in history,...............?
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@lukeisntgay Yes, it was boring because it was in the middle of two far more important wars, the 7 years war and the Napoleonic wars. The American colonies were always meant to be independant anyway. They were too much of a financial burden on the government. The fact that some rebels fought with a tiny British garrison in the colonies and had to be rescued by the French meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not even Napoleon could see the great British plan when he sold you Louisania.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight ok
lukeisntgay 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight I agree that the Napoleonic Wars were of greater importance.
But if something, it was an average French AND Spanish victory. We helped the rebels since the beginning with money and supplies, and upon entering open war in 1779 we secured the southwest for the Americans. Needless to say this was of the utmost importance strategically.
Even the supplies and payroll for the Yorktown continentals were financed by a last minute collection from the citizens of Havana.
HerrOttoKranz 2 months ago
@HerrOttoKranz There is no denying that this war was a Spanish and French victory over Britain, not an American victory over Britain. The reason we lost is because our navy was under funded and we could not control the atlantic. Whatever the yanks may think, George Washington was a shit general and lost nearly every battle he got involved in.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
I disagree that the war was a French or Spanish victory. Even after the American war, Britain still controlled the seas and was the major world power for up to 150/200 years after. France and Spain helped the Americans but none the less hadn't the power to match or stand against the British Navy and Army.
The American in time kicked both France and Spain from the Americas lol....that was the thanks they got!! haha
51wins 1 month ago
@51wins It was a French victory. Britain had just won the 7 years war and was badly in debt. We cut back the size of our military to pay back the money. When the civil war in the colonies began, the government forces won again and again. It was only when the French intervened that we started to lose the battles.
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
@TheLiberalKnight
I totally understand that the French helped the Patriots in cretin ways so yes they helped in a way win the war....but what I mean is it didn't benefit France. Britain still was the major world power...infact Britain went on after the civil to create the largest empire in history!
51wins 1 month ago
@51wins At the time of the Colonist Civil War (that is what it actually is, not a revolution), Britain and France were pretty much even as far as power goes. Britain's wealth from her newly aquired empire was yet to come. The reason French intervention won this war is because they caught us with our armour off. We were cutting back on the military to pay back debts, thereby allowing the French to dominate the Atlantic sea, which is what lost us the war.
TheLiberalKnight 1 month ago
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it was luck pure and simple that defeated the brittish now we're allies
Yorgar 3 months ago
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Cornwallis was a coward he could not even surrender in person. What a joke. Good thing we, Americans, keep this part of history alive. The war of American Independence is a very good example of how people did not want to put up with coloinalism B.S. of Great Britain. By the way Britian, along with France, is a big reason why we have alot of turmoial in Africa today. By the way Prussia75 get it right it was squirrel rifles that deffeated you!
thomastheteach 3 months ago
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@knut761 You are Generalizing, and highly incorrect.
HailTheBrull 3 months ago
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@europachef Why should have to recognized such cultures in detail. Many of us, including myself, are mixed with so many different races. I'll call you "English" instead of "British" when you refer to me as German, Spanish, French, Aztec, Apache, Zapotec, and various others, instead of just American...
HailTheBrull 3 months ago
SAD PITFUL FARMERS WITH PTCHFORKS DEFFEATED US
mistergutsy19 3 months ago
d'day was mainly the americans ,and the battle of britain was only won because german planes were focused on bombing london and besides when british planes attacked berlin the germans held out so it is also home ground. The british only were probably the weakest of the major powers in ww2
Prussia75 4 months ago
@Prussia75 What a load of nonsense.
mushroomdilloway 3 months ago
It's not an accurate reenactment. No one who was there would have had a camera.
mysteryperson1976 4 months ago
@CorsairJim Rorke's Drift? January 22, 1879...the same day as your entire 4th Regiment of foot was MASSACRED at Isandlwanah? That Rorker's Drift? Alamein...where AMERICAN Sherman tanks were first used right? And wasn't that AFTER the Russians effectively won the war in Europe before Moscow and the Stalingrad? Yes I know them all well. I never said you never won a battle, but you forgot your allies don't you. And sorry, you lost many a battle to the Americans BEFORE the French came.
Shafeone 4 months ago
@CorsairJim Well...you subjugated 25% of the world's population. And it clearly didn't last. Of course I know of the Armada - 1588 was it? Reaching WAY back - and Trafalgar - 1805. Your nation stemmed off invasion (with a LOT of help from the weather in the former.) As for the Third COalition War of which Trafalgar was a part, the French defeated your allies...Austerlitz ring a bell, eh what? The Boer War was nothing to be proud of, called your vietnam. The ZULU war? Really? [cont]
Shafeone 4 months ago
the british hardly did anything but hide and hope that the germans didn't sucsessfuly invade england and besides the british diserver little credit for the allied victory it was the russians at stalingrad and the americans
Prussia75 4 months ago
No wonder why so many ppl despise Americans finding them offensive. They can't even acknowledge the *English *nationality and so they keep calling the *English...British, yet they have no issue with recognizing the Welsh, Scottish or Irish nationalities, calling them Welsh, Scottish or Irish. I'm not even English, but find it highly OFFENSIVE as well as extremely ignorant. If Americans could start respecting other cultures and nationalties then perhaps people would respect the Americans.
europachef 4 months ago 48
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@europachef You mean respect other cultures the way you ENGLISHMEN respected Scottish culture at Culloden? Or Irish culture with your man-made Potato Famine? Or Indian culture during the Sepoy Rebellion? Or Chinese culture during the Opium War? You mean show THAT kind of respect, guv'nah? Your entire history over the last 300 years was about how to serve the interests of your East India Tea Company. How proud you must be. We in America acknowledge our sins...we have many. Can you say same?
Shafeone 4 months ago
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@europachef
off one guy who commented years ago?
what about "speak softly and carry a big stick"
for ever 9 Americans who knew your fighting styles to a tee,
theres 1 who doesnt and screams to make up for it like a big dog.
ABOM420 4 months ago
ABOM420 4 months ago
@europachef that's because the americans has an inferior complex towards the english, it is deeply ingrained too. they will never admit to it of course. but any american reading this know it’s true. They can’t stand the english. also, a major cause for this is their shitty school system in which they are taught lies and half truths whilst the english are painted as criminals and the americans, of course, are painted as "we are the best the purest and the righteous". It starts in school, EARLY.
knut761 4 months ago 26
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@knut761 you don't even know what you're talking about. None of you do. You Assume too much and stereotype as well. I'm seeing alot of hypocrisy here.
PurpleHusky95 4 months ago
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@knut761 jealous Brit once the most powerful nation in the world now not even close you know that is true
jcolossale 4 months ago
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@knut761
inferior complex?
We're the only fcking super power remaining, how do you expect us to feel?
shitty about 230yrs of success?
youre our fucking lapdog that needs to be whipped into submission more often
Sturmmann 3 months ago
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@knut761 Neither of you know or understand. What fools.
StephanusTacitus 3 months ago
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@knut761 Neither of you know or understand. What fools.
And yes, we will allow you to surrender.
StephanusTacitus 3 months ago
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@knut761 How many Americans do you personally know and how much time have you actually spent in the U.S.A.? I don't agree with much in American politics, but I am Canadian by birth, Canadian/ American by heritage(my mother's family is American)and married to an American. I find most Americans to be no different than most Canadians.BUT I have worked with some recent British immigrants and have never known people with such an air of arrogance.
sicamousman 3 months ago
@sicamousman You do realize that you just proved what the guy whose post I responded too, pointed out, yes?. Fucking hilarious.
knut761 3 months ago
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@knut761 We're studying the revolutionary, in our shitty school system of course, and as a thinking human being, I decided to become a "loyalist" in the curriculum, the average Briton paid 18 times more in taxes, only 10% of them owned land, mean while 4-5 shillings and 75% of the people owned land, they sold tea to us at less then it cost them to make it, and put a little tax on it, none of which are acknowledged in the California, Creating America History book.
xxxeMoforAday22xxx 3 months ago
@knut761 We in the South do not have an inferiority complex towards anyone, as that is a very un-Christian attitude. (We are not known as the Bible Belt for nothing, you know!) Yes, we are taught in school that the British - and every other nationality that has ever opposed the American government - was the "enemy" and were therefore inferior and inhuman, but that is due to the fact that our textbooks are written by northerners, who have been distorting history and twisting facts for centuries.
cscptdave 3 months ago
@cscptdave I am fully aware of the Yank cultural genocide towards the southerners (be they from Virginia, Georgia, the Carolinas or any other southern state) it's been ongoing since the war of northern aggression. We see it on television and in movies all of the time: how are the southerners always portrayed? precisely. You should have been your own country, well, you were for almost 5 years. Yanks have also managed to almost kill off all of your beautiful southern accents and dialects.
knut761 3 months ago
@knut761 Before the War, and truly ever since, northerners have always had an inferiority complex that manifests itself as just the opposite. They have to constantly and loudly proclaim their arrogance and supposed "superiority" in hopes that somebody somewhere will believe it. Northerners are generally a mongrel mixed-breed race and have always had it in for us Southerners. Too bad that so may of my fellow Confederates have become "reconstructed" over the years and bought in to the yankee lie.
cscptdave 3 months ago
@knut761 Well 1., you're generalizing and stereotyping. Unless you've been to the United States, you have no background proof for what you've just said. I'm American and I certainly can stand the English. I show no hate towards England as well as it's country, UK. Though, I greatly agree with you on your last statement of being taught lies at school. Luckily, I got out of that at an early age and moved to Europe, getting a real education. So no, not all of us are ignorant.
cookiemonster9052 3 months ago 6
@europachef Well, for one, don't take the postings of a few ignorati/trolls on YouTube or other places on the net as indicative of an entire people/nation. ;) ;) ; )
dixieflyer500 4 months ago
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@europachef it was a british defeat what else was it,there were regiments from all over that tiny island called great britain, what gets me is piss ant dots like scotland and ireland even get to say they are not english you could fit the whole tiny island in tasmania but you dont see tasmanians saying were not Australian.
MrFattyfatfatboy 3 months ago
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@europachef Yet you're retarded enough not to know that it was the BRITISH Empire we were fighting. And not just english fought. Welsh, scottish, and irish all fight with the british crown. So please shut your ignorant fuck mouth.
ContinentalPatriot 3 months ago
@europachef I once heard two Spanish ladies in an elevator talking about Americans. I listened confusedly as they described us all as arrogant, rude and lacking in any form of manners, until I finally realized that what they were describing is the common everyday American from the north, that is, a yankee. We are as unlike they as the English are to the Irish, the Scots, or the Welsh. You are making the same error as they of whom you complain, in grouping everyone into the same broad category.
cscptdave 3 months ago
@europachef I'm Welsh, and honestly don't mind people just generally saying British. It's really the Public Schools fault though, they teach kids everyone from the UK is pretty much British.
Kinesis17 3 months ago
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@europachef shutup
machinegunners3000 3 months ago
SURRENDER....SURRENDER..SURRENDER
wexfordboyful 4 months ago
you guys really have the most childish arguments on here,
goggloski 4 months ago
@toonmag50 Washington fought the British and by any measure (held the field, inflicted more casualties, etc) and defeated them at Monmouth in a full European style line on line battle, with fife drums and bayonet charges which were supposedly the Redcoats' specialty. By 1778 the Continental Army had become, as one Brit write home, "a most formidable adversary." Washington didn't need to win. He just had to NOT LOSE while keeping his army together. That was his genius. His leadership and drive.
Shafeone 4 months ago
@Shafeone NB-pay the French for the use of the Navy and Army-they were indispensable at every battle the colonists claim victory,but you re all so full of the distortions of your education system,you ll be claiming victory in the vietnam war before long.Stalin and Hitler would be very impressed by your propaganda systems in the us
toonmag50 3 months ago
@toonmag50 Enlighten please then and tell me what indispensible Frenchman were present at the following battles in which the colonials WERE victorious (not 'claimed") or those in which they fought to the vaunted regulars a draw but inflicted heavier losses: Concord, Bunker Hill, Dorchester Heights, Trenton, Princeton, Saratoga, Monmouth, King's Mountain, Cowpens? I do not deny the French were invaluable. But the USA had to win a few on their own first in order to get their support.
Shafeone 3 months ago
@Shafeone amusingly ironic is the fact the amount of money and effort spent by France on your war,caused economic turmoil in France,which helped promote tensions which led to the overthrow of their monarchy in 1789-the same monarchy which the colonial anti-monachists allied themselves with- polite suggestion-try looking beyond the simple tit for tat battle recounts- tea her
toonmag50 3 months ago
@toonmag50 What's really amusing is that after claiming the French were indispensible at "every battle the colonists claim victory" and then I immediately respond with a laundry list of battles in which the USA was both victorious and alone on the battlefield, you switch the subject to telling me the obvious, and something I've never denied: That the French were immensely important in America achieving independence. I'll take you changing of the subject as ceding the point. Thanks for playing.
Shafeone 3 months ago
@Shafeone tee bloody hee-even by your measure-the Crown won more battles than the colonists -I am pointing out the cost paid by your erstwhile allies
toonmag50 3 months ago
@cumbas No one denies that French support was essential. But to be fair there were no French troops at Lexington/Concord, Bunker Hill, Ft. Ticonderoga, Dorchester Hts., Trenton/Princeton, Monmouth, Cowpens, Kings Mountain, and, of course Saratoga. The war began in 1775. The French really didn't start to make a show of force until late 1779 even 1780. When they did, they decided the issue...certainly at sea and with their money to pay troops in hard coinage!
Shafeone 4 months ago
@wilsonnortheast I was in Europe recently. Man does tear gas do a number on the eyes!
Shafeone 4 months ago
does anyone noties a boy in the rack
haloreachlover99 4 months ago
An empire that controlled 20% of the world population.
BigWilki123321 4 months ago
@BigWilki123321 the key word being CONTROLLED past tense
jcolossale 4 months ago
@jcolossale Is there a little hint of resentment there. I don't see why, look how successful your country is. Just rememeber, you and none of your country, nor Canada, would exist if we hadn't set sail to expand our CONTROLLING empire. You wouldn't have had anyone to declare independence from, as you wouldn't even exist.
BigWilki123321 4 months ago
@BigWilki123321
"Is there a little hint of resentment there. I don't see why, look how successful your country is. Just rememeber, you and none of your country, nor Canada, would exist if we hadn't set sail to expand our CONTROLLING empire. You wouldn't have had anyone to declare independence from, as you wouldn't even exist."
If you hadn't set sail North America would be a french speaking continent...
Robineux99 1 month ago
@Robineux99 We discovered north america, and considering our power and growth at the time, it would of been stupid not to expand into vacant lands, the French spent more time being bankrupt than making any significant efforts to expand their culture at the time.
BigWilki123321 1 month ago
@BigWilki123321
Not really. Spanish Christopher Columbus discovered America..and then Italian Amerigo Vespucci came 4 years. And so ...500 years earlier Scandinavians were there. And mmm then we could argue the natives really discovered the continent. Trying to trace a country's roots is a never ending task. And then the reason France went "brankrupt" is because they spent so much resources helping the americans kick the british out...not before.
Robineux99 1 month ago
@Robineux99 The Americas was first discovered by a Chinese man, but thats besides the point. You also left out the fact that it was also the Netherlands and Spain who were also trying to undermine Britains influence in North America. Everyone knows its not who was on the land first but who can keep it, that are the true owners of the land, ther natives couldn't keep it. France was also bankrupt, WITHOUT the quotes, more times than just during the American Revolution.
BigWilki123321 1 month ago
@BigWilki123321
Also England fucked themselves up because of greed. If they just stopped abusing their colonists resources and just sent strong political representatives or at least let them vote for their own representatives to solidify their ties americans would never have rebelled. At that time, americans were scared that british corruption would cross the atlantic and felt like second class citizens.
Robineux99 1 month ago
@Robineux99 And yes, the empire and the people who ran it were greedy, it was after all, the biggest and most successful empire the world had and has ever seen, why not try and take advantage of it as much as possible. On the contrary, the end result for most of Britains former colonies was a positive one, look how successful America is, and also Canada and Australia. They probably felt like second class citizens because thats more of less how an empire works, one dominating country.
BigWilki123321 1 month ago
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America's success: After the british were kicked out and the country's ressources back to its people. Australian success: Made by their own. Australia was used as a prison islands for convicts and deportees like acadiens...
Canada success: the british were scared the american revolution would come up there so they gave the franco population several rights they had denied before or they would have accepted the american offer to kick the rest of the brits out.
Robineux99 3 weeks ago
@Robineux99 Yes the history of both countries is colourful, im still immensely proud of my country and it's limitless achievements. America, nor Canada, nor Australia would even exist if it wasnt for the United Kingdom, they wouldn't speak french either as you said earlier, the resources we put into colonizing north america would of been pumped into our war with France and they would of been destroyed and bankrupt, not for the last time. Nor would india and pakistan be as they are.
BigWilki123321 3 weeks ago
@Robineux99 Also you say "The resources back to the people"?, the founding fathers of America were BRITISH, so the resources that resided within its boundaries were BRITISH, thats why we were able to claim taxes and call you our colony in the first place!. Believe me young man, the war of independence could of been won by either side. Arrogance can only get you so far, America did this and America did that, yes America has alot to be proud of, but dont forget who put you here.
BigWilki123321 3 weeks ago
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Yes : Who likes to send taxes abroad? The ressources that resided within were for the people working the land not from some crowned dump oversea. This goes for the french too. And first of all the land and the ressources were not "BRITISH", this was all stolen from the natives with the difference that the british were less respectful of the natives than the french were. And also, you don't have a clue about my age...young man.
Robineux99 2 weeks ago
@Robineux99 Who likes to pay taxes at all?, the resources within a countries boundaries are under control of its government and worked by its people, not the other way around, you cant just go to a gold mine and take as much as you want. This "dump" dickhead, created the biggest empire this race has ever seen, and created the foundations of the land you stand on, among countless other. Fuck the french, they arnt worth shit. Iraq's oil is their peoples i suppose aswell?
BigWilki123321 2 weeks ago
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Irak's oil should be theirs...the fact that you believe otherwise is just proof of your deep deep stupidity. Also if you don't care about my age why are you saying "young man"? And if history had taken a different turn? what turn? history is not made of "would". Also it's "if you weren't" not "if you "wasnt". Fuck the french? only the french? You should add the scotts, the Irish, american natives, acadians, americans.
Robineux99 2 weeks ago
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Gawd Keep your shirt on. The matter of the fact is while the french were in for the profit just like the british empire, they never resorted to cheap tactics like deportation or ethnic cleansing with mmm..let's say smallpox blankets. Listen I don't have anything against the England..you know..I like the Beatles..and the Rolling Stones... but what the ancestors did and the way they did it...rascals. All the colonies weren't "maintained" but sucked dry...
Robineux99 2 weeks ago
@Robineux99 lol I it's funny how some americans start off by saying ".......but hey I like England, I like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones" like they're our only 2 achievements. I don't need you to correct my grammer, as long as you recognise my point, that will do. Ivan the Terrible would throw babies up in the air and catch them on his sword, Vlad the impaler would impale people through their anus while they were still alive, history is full of evil behavior.
BigWilki123321 2 weeks ago
@Robineux99 Me saying Iraq's oil belongs to the iraqi's in a sarcastic way, suggests that we all know the oil wont be under the control of normal iraqi's, people fight for things in life this shouldn't be news to you, and GAWD my shirt is on, its one thing to be proud of your country, as you should be, but not if it comes at the expense of my own. If the colonies were so "sucked dry" as you say, would those countries of reached the prosperity they have today?
BigWilki123321 2 weeks ago
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"If the colonies were so "sucked dry" as you say, would those countries of reached the prosperity they have today?
Not if the brits hadn't been kicked out quickly like it happened.
"Me saying Iraq's oil belongs to the iraqi's in a sarcastic way
Funny in a previous post you were defending the right of colonial powers to take the ressources of conquered countries and now your comment is sarcasm
Oh and btw..I am not american I just see things how they were.
Robineux99 2 weeks ago
@Robineux99 Ok, I take your point onboard, have a nice day.
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@BigWilki123321
1- I saw this documentary last weekend : A chinese man discovering america based on a single piece of rock is theoretical and refuted by all anthropologists but one chinese colleague.
2- Scotland, Ireland, Quebec, Pakistan, india, Hong Kong...what do they all had/have as a common goal? I'll let you ponder.
3- I also like Led Zeppelin..please don't use your logic to conclude that I am a nazi.
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@Robineux99 I dont care for your age, nor do I care for your attitude, its common knowledge that things were/are taken from weaker rivals, there are countless examples throughout history, if you wasnt so naive you would be able to grasp this simple fact. Anyway, enjoy your freedom and independence, because had history taken a slightly different turn, you would still be a colony of this land, built, owned and maintained by the crown and it's people
BigWilki123321 2 weeks ago
At 6:47 what is the music playing? It sounds like coming of the old 1812
BeechBaron2012 5 months ago
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3 GREAT BRITISH SURRENDERS 1= YORKTOWN 2 = SINGAPORE 3= IRA
wexfordboyful 5 months ago
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@wexfordboyful and the Yanks were totally destroyed by a lot of Vietnam farmers HAHA
Any way Ulster is still very much part of the UK - so how can the IRA have won?
gibraltarisenglish 5 months ago
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@gibraltarisenglish when the british surrendered at singapore they outnumbered the japs 4 to 1 , historians recon that when some of the british lower officers saw how small the japanese invading force was they wanted to shoot their SUPERIORS and not the JAPS ! he he he he he
wexfordboyful 5 months ago
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@MyKingdom13 Blah, blah, blah,..
There is no American insecurity, nor a desire to insult the British, whom we consider our closest ally. There IS a desire, however, to insult whiny, snooty, individuals, who we know won't be able to take it, and will throw a prissy little school girl fit.
Oh, by the way, thanks for the history lesson. It was very refreshing.
71259mark 5 months ago
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To put it more accurately, it was the British armed forces fighting against Germans, Irish, Scots, Dutch, French, Native Americans, Spanish, and host of other nations’ citizens, AND transplanted Englishman.
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hundredand 6 months ago
LOL at the Midget at 5:59.
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MrFrenchie36 6 months ago
You wouldn't exist without the English to begin with, let alone the French...so calm down (:
The war of independence was actually English people fighting English people, that's right, even the Southerner himself (from the old dominion, Virginia) George Washington!!, said "fighting for the right of every Englishman", perhaps you should study your countries history a bit more? It was an English civil war in the colonies which only *later took the shape of what later became "American".
ericvandenhaas 6 months ago 76
@ericvandenhaas Our ancesters were the colonies... We are of english decent, but we are not going to call ourselves english because we are not born in england, we are Americans. Lets say your father moved to america from Great Britain, then you were born, does that mean you are not your fathers son because you were born in a country other than that of your fathers. You don't just lose your history by merely moving countries.
manacaster 6 months ago 7
@ericvandenhaas They became American the moment they declared independence ;)
hundredand 6 months ago
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@ericvandenhaas wat would the british have done during ww2 if america didnt become a nation
888000777666 6 months ago
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@ericvandenhaas Actually your statement is wrong. The french came in after America had already won several key victories and forces the the surrender of entire british army by themselves. Sure the french helped but by that time it was clearly going against the british. Who simple did not have the troops to cover all the Territory or the supplies or the troops to protect them
AntagonisticEnemy 5 months ago
@ericvandenhaas Me thinks thou art a sore loser.
71259mark 5 months ago
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@71259mark - no we aren't sore losers just people who study the truth of things, we lost, we know that, we have lost before elsewhere and lost held territory too, there just seems to be an American insecurity that seems to need to back up everything by altering history and insult the UK on every video, even troop tribute videos, this makes us angry at such blatant ignorance....
MyKingdom13 5 months ago
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For example, the Smithsonian withdrew all support for the filme the Patrot since it was a crock of shit. Tarleton (Tavington) lived for 50 more years, US rebels hung and raped anyone who didnt join them, British looked after and released injured prisoners on parole to gain support and didnt shoot them, Rebels slaughtered any loyalist americans they came across, Black people werent free in the South, no quarter was given by the Patriots at any time.
MyKingdom13 5 months ago
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....The reasons for the tax was to pay off the French & Indian war debt and for a war chest for future protection of the colonies, Patriots weren't prisoners and the united states ended up immediately after the war in a mess. Denial of French, Spanish and Dutch involvement to a high degree, Britain's existence being at risk and therefore less attention being paid to the colonies and the 100K loyalist refugee march north. Add that with Charles Lynch (mob) and you see no wonder we are pissed.
MyKingdom13 5 months ago
@MyKingdom13 You mad, Bro?
71259mark 5 months ago
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@71259mark I forgot the reneging on treaty agreements in a time of honour and the fact that it was the Patriot hunger for land not the British aristocracy proven by the proclamation act of 1763 that was evident. At the end let me say that I am not an Anti-American if you can beleive it, just a proud Englishmen who acknowledges your victory and your current status as our allies along with the truth behind all matters.
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@MyKingdom13 • Blah, blah, blah,..
There is no American insecurity, nor a desire to insult the British, whom we consider our closest ally. There IS a desire, however, to insult whiny, snooty, individuals, who we know won't be able to take it, and will throw a prissy little school girl fit.
Oh, by the way, thanks for the history lesson. It was very refreshing.
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@ericvandenhaas To put it more accurately, it was the British armed forces fighting against Germans, Irish, Scots, Dutch, French, Native Americans, Spanish, and host of other nations’ citizens, AND transplanted Englishman.
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@ericvandenhaas lol. actually it was quite clearly no longer a "civil war" after the declaration of independence was signed. DUH
DiVeronica 5 months ago in playlist Prussia
@ericvandenhaas we defeated england in two wars and ww2wouldnt of had been won by the allies without america
888000777666 4 months ago
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@ericvandenhaas But an argument like that will always lead to "people originated from Africa, so every human endeavour in history has actually been undertaken by an African".
AntonioCarloDiCanio 4 months ago
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@ericvandenhaas Also, French, Spanish, Dutch, Germans and Native Americans fought in the war.
AntonioCarloDiCanio 4 months ago
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@ericvandenhaas actually thats far from true, im a native southern american, and my ancestors consist of armenian, cherokee indian, and german, no weak british blood in me, we came from all over the world to the colonies, not just from england, there were just as much irish imigrants, which were your mortal enemies back then, and lets see we fought england and beat yalls ass TWICE u can always make excuses but the stone cold facts are that we beat yall, we can fight, yall cannot, so calm down:)
willbolian91 4 months ago
@ericvandenhaas
the only reason you lost : )
you fools shudve let us settle in more, be less English,
and maybe we woudltn have known exactly what youd do and when.
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@ericvandenhaas In The Early Part of the Revolutionary War, it was British fighting British. However, the rebels declared the US as an independent country in July 4th 1776 therefore making them officially American.
ethaninkl 3 months ago
@ericvandenhaas Yes it was English people fighting English people BUT America won.
neanderpaul14 3 months ago 30
@neanderpaul14 It was the French that won.
1Dougy85 1 month ago