Student of Adolfo Barabino masterclass demos B Major unequal temperament

[quadibloc]

Given that the stiffness of the strings in a piano means that the partials of piano notes are not harmonic, while I agree that this is beautiful music, it cannot really be employed as an effective demonstration that, in general, the Kellner temperament is useful in the key of B major. The piano follows different rules from many other musical instruments... and the Hammond organ even more so.

[latribe]

@quadibloc If you follow many of my other unequal temperament videos you'll find numerous instances of B major in this temperament, including the Chopin 24 preludes including each key . . .

[thebpl]

Interesting, but what do Liszt and pianos have to do with Bach? In judging the requirements of temperaments derived from Bach evidence, to hear if they "fit", the point is to play Bach's own music (the way HE used B major, A-flat, and other exotic keys) on the instruments he knew and used: harpsichords, clavichords, and organs. These bits from the Liszt sonata are mostly chromatic scales and arpeggiated chords, not counterpoint; and pianos have an entirely different timbre from harpsichords.

[thebpl]

If the point is to listen to Liszt on a piano in an unequal temperament, especially check out Daniel Grimwood's new set of all 3 years of pilgrimage: on an Erard piano of the 1850s, tuned in my temperament (because he liked the colours and contrasts, not because Liszt's compositions have anything to do with Bach). Listen to the whole set on a good system to hear its range. Also, there are some promotional videos on YouTube: search for "grimwood liszt annees".

[latribe]

Well - thank you for this - but actually in now some years of promoting concerts with the 19th century repertoire the Kellner Kirnberger family of temperaments is proving to make significant musical sense. All these temperaments, including "Broadwood's best" have a well gradated purity to impurity spectrum in accordance with the home to remote key spectrum, the numbers of black notes.

I have tried the Bradley Lehman Bach temperament. It peaks with mid number accidentals, making little sense.