By the way, speaking of Obama! Look up the video of Obama saying "Yes We Can" backwards! It's absolutely true! I have an Iphone App that allows you to speak and then listen backwards! Try it!
I grow weary of people saying that if you don't believe the erroneous doctrine of Premilleniallism regarding Israel than you are Anti Semitic! This is nonsense! There are people who believe what the bible teaches no matter where it leads or if it says what we wish it did! God is the one who cursed Israel. David is the one who said "May there eyes be darkened and their backs be bent FOREVER!" Is God Anti Semitic? Of course not! Neither am I or Amillenialists!
Hey John, looks like the Catholic Church and her offspring the reformed churches (Calvinist) have found you. All of the popes and jesuits as well as Luther, Calvin, Zwingli etc hate the Jews. It's a family trait along with their mutual histories of burning Anabaptist and others who reject their teaching at the stake. They are as wrong on prophecy as they are on salvation the source common to both movements is their dependence on Augustine the pagan influenced church father. Preach on brother.
You need to throw that Scofield Bible with it's dispensational teaching in the trash. Scofield was no scholar. He forsook his wife and children to go work for antichrist Zionist Jews in New York City to write the pro-zionist Scofield Bible Commentary. It's a crock of massive proportions. The Antichrist Zionist so called Jews and so called Israel are not the Israel of the Old Testament but came from Esau (Edomites) and Magog (Khazars) of Russia. It's a fraud to trick Christians.
The trick about this topic is that Israel became the church, so in that sense the Church was just the transition of Israel from the Old Covenant into the New. The problem in many who teach about this is that they think today's Israel is the same as the Israel of the Old Testament which it is not. Read Jeremiah 24 and John 15:1-6 until you get this.
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! The focal issue is the nation of Israel? the last book of the bible is about the Revelation of Jesus Christ. The Bible is Christo-centric not ethno centric.
"...for to make in himself of twain one new man...that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross...through HIM we both have access BY ONE SPIRIT unto the Father...an HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord.." (Eph.2:15-21). The apostle is speaking about the "middle wall of separation" between Jews and Gentiles being broken down. Dispensational futurists seem to want to build the wall back up again. Obviously this is not what Jesus, Paul, John or any other NT writer was suggesting.
You are now trying to confuse two categories of study: Eschatological, and Soteriological. I am disputing against the dispensational futurists Eschatological interpretation. If have made no assertions about their various Soteriological positions. Pleas don't confuse the two categories just because you can't support your eschatological interpretation.
That is correct. Futurists believe in an individual "Mr. Sinister" that will arise on the world scene only in the last 7 years of earth's history. Yet nowhere in the Bible is this idea ever suggested. Rather, the antichrist is the "little horn" (Dan.7), the "man of sin, son of perdition" (2Thes.2), the "sea beast" (Rev.13:1-10), and the "scarlet harlot" (Rev.17). There is no such thing as a future "Mr. Diabolical", like Scofield thought.
"The focal issue is the nation of Israel"... This kind of blindness to the prophetic Word of God is exactly why dispensational futurists won't talk about the true identity of antichrist. They feel that the nation of Israel has a part to play in eschatology, specifically the last 7 years of earth's history. Their whole eschatological system is based on a misinterpretation of ONE passage: Dan.9:27.
I suppose you think it is Jesus who will break the Covenant? It is the prince that shall come that will do that! Another person otherwise known as the Antichrist!
It isnt Dispensationalists who are blinded but those who follow RC inspired Covenant theology that are blinded!
I suppose you think that the State of Israel has no prophetic significance?
Why do dispensationalists insist that there exists a "gap" between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel's prophecy (Dan.9:24-27)? What in the text even begins to substantiate this assertion?
Pleas tell me the date and decree you believe the 69 weeks began.
There are two main erroneous teachings infecting Protestantism today with regards to eschatology: Preterism and Futurism. Neither of which are the historic Protestant perspectives. I am NOT RC; I am a "5 solas" Protestant.
I agree Preterism is an error. Historicism is merely incomplete.
There is a gap because Christ was cut off AFTER the 69th week (Dan 9:26) and Revelation describes the 70th week in which events happen that have no correlation with any past historical events.
E.g. Rev 11:2-3 = 1260 days = 42 Jewish Lunar months = first half of the 7 years.
See Rev 12:6 for the second half of the Great Tribulation! The woman = Israel made to flee from the Land. Zech 14.
Historicism states that the 490 years of Daniel's prophecy (Dan.9:24-27) was continuous, ie., NO GAPS. The Messianic nature of Dan.9:24-27 has NO connection with the 1260 day=year prophecies of Dan.7,12, Rev.11,12, and 13. It is the consistent biblical (and Protestant) interpretation that the 1260 days should be interpreted as LITERAL YEARS. Futurists are attempting to blend the 70th week with the 1260 day=year prophecies. This is the error of dispensational futurism-- it is inconsistent.
The problem is that Protestant exegetes (long before the SDA's or JW's) saw the 1260 day time prophecies as LITERAL YEARS. See, for example, John Gill's commentary on Rev.11. Dispensationalism is inconsistent in that it chooses when to apply the day=year principle, and when not to. Either ALL time prophecies are day=year, or NONE of them are.
2nd decree of Artaxerxes=444 B.C. 444 B.C.+483 years= 39 A.D.-- way too late for the crucifixion of Christ.
Im not aware that ANY Dispensationalist applies the day = year interpretation!
As I said before Dan 8:14 day = Evening and morning meaning a literal day!
On one video I possess someone worked out that the 483 literal years (Luna calendar) had been fulfilled from Nehemiah to the triumphal entry to Jerusalem!
2 Peter 3:8 is taken merely that God is outside time as we are inside it. Isa 57:15
Dispensationalists apply the day=year principle in Dan.9:24-27, don't they? And while some might not agree with each other, many apply the day=year principle to Rev.2:10, and say that the "ten days tribulation" refers to the persecution of the Church under Diocletian from 303-313 A.D. I concur with dispensationalists in this. They are inconsistent, however, in that they choose when and when not to apply the day=year principle. I believe the Word of God to be consistent with itself.
Im sorry but I have both Darbys commentary and Scofields study Bible and neither of them mention day = year interpretations for Rev 2:10 or Daniel either.
I dont know where you have got your information from.
Hi, I am a christian. I believe that I am one of God's chosen people because I make Jesus my lord. I believe that we are part of the new covenant. I am a gentile. I believe that anyone who follows Jesus becomes one of God's chosen people, that should be our first personal priority.
Exactly. There is absolutely no reason to build up a wall of separation between Jews and Gentiles when it comes to who God's people are. The apostle makes this perfectly clear in Eph.2:13-22. Dispensationalists are attempting to rebuild walls that Christ came to tear down.
Simply because the Nation of Israel are still Gods ORIGINAL chosen people this does not invalidate Christian theology! Far from it in fact.
Rom 11:28-29 NKJV Concerning the gospel they [the Nation of Israel] are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. FOR THE GIFTS AND THE CALLING OF GOD ARE IRREVOCABLE.
By the way, speaking of Obama! Look up the video of Obama saying "Yes We Can" backwards! It's absolutely true! I have an Iphone App that allows you to speak and then listen backwards! Try it!
rolysantos 4 months ago
I grow weary of people saying that if you don't believe the erroneous doctrine of Premilleniallism regarding Israel than you are Anti Semitic! This is nonsense! There are people who believe what the bible teaches no matter where it leads or if it says what we wish it did! God is the one who cursed Israel. David is the one who said "May there eyes be darkened and their backs be bent FOREVER!" Is God Anti Semitic? Of course not! Neither am I or Amillenialists!
rolysantos 4 months ago
Hey John, looks like the Catholic Church and her offspring the reformed churches (Calvinist) have found you. All of the popes and jesuits as well as Luther, Calvin, Zwingli etc hate the Jews. It's a family trait along with their mutual histories of burning Anabaptist and others who reject their teaching at the stake. They are as wrong on prophecy as they are on salvation the source common to both movements is their dependence on Augustine the pagan influenced church father. Preach on brother.
mwilson70201 5 months ago
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youneekk 8 months ago
You need to throw that Scofield Bible with it's dispensational teaching in the trash. Scofield was no scholar. He forsook his wife and children to go work for antichrist Zionist Jews in New York City to write the pro-zionist Scofield Bible Commentary. It's a crock of massive proportions. The Antichrist Zionist so called Jews and so called Israel are not the Israel of the Old Testament but came from Esau (Edomites) and Magog (Khazars) of Russia. It's a fraud to trick Christians.
DeanCo7777 1 year ago
The trick about this topic is that Israel became the church, so in that sense the Church was just the transition of Israel from the Old Covenant into the New. The problem in many who teach about this is that they think today's Israel is the same as the Israel of the Old Testament which it is not. Read Jeremiah 24 and John 15:1-6 until you get this.
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paologeminiani 1 year ago
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! The focal issue is the nation of Israel? the last book of the bible is about the Revelation of Jesus Christ. The Bible is Christo-centric not ethno centric.
matrxmax 1 year ago
"...for to make in himself of twain one new man...that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross...through HIM we both have access BY ONE SPIRIT unto the Father...an HOLY TEMPLE in the Lord.." (Eph.2:15-21). The apostle is speaking about the "middle wall of separation" between Jews and Gentiles being broken down. Dispensational futurists seem to want to build the wall back up again. Obviously this is not what Jesus, Paul, John or any other NT writer was suggesting.
rkg62976 2 years ago
Im sorry but all that shows is that you do not really understand Dispensationalism!
Salvation is Christ alone! Israel has a PROPHETIC part in the worlds affairs as well as being the original wellspring of salvation. (John 4:22)
How can you refute something you do not understand?
IDH77 2 years ago
You are now trying to confuse two categories of study: Eschatological, and Soteriological. I am disputing against the dispensational futurists Eschatological interpretation. If have made no assertions about their various Soteriological positions. Pleas don't confuse the two categories just because you can't support your eschatological interpretation.
rkg62976 2 years ago
True identity of Antichrist? I take it you mean the RCC?
Scofield said about Rev 18:2:
Two "Babylons" are to be distinguished in the Revelation: ecclesiastical babylon, which is apostate Christendom, headed up under the Papacy
So no Dispensationalists do regard the papacy as being an Antichrist system but not the Pope as the actual final Antichrist.
Rev 13 mentions 2 beasts. One political one religious!
IDH77 2 years ago
That is correct. Futurists believe in an individual "Mr. Sinister" that will arise on the world scene only in the last 7 years of earth's history. Yet nowhere in the Bible is this idea ever suggested. Rather, the antichrist is the "little horn" (Dan.7), the "man of sin, son of perdition" (2Thes.2), the "sea beast" (Rev.13:1-10), and the "scarlet harlot" (Rev.17). There is no such thing as a future "Mr. Diabolical", like Scofield thought.
rkg62976 2 years ago
"The focal issue is the nation of Israel"... This kind of blindness to the prophetic Word of God is exactly why dispensational futurists won't talk about the true identity of antichrist. They feel that the nation of Israel has a part to play in eschatology, specifically the last 7 years of earth's history. Their whole eschatological system is based on a misinterpretation of ONE passage: Dan.9:27.
rkg62976 2 years ago
I suppose you think it is Jesus who will break the Covenant? It is the prince that shall come that will do that! Another person otherwise known as the Antichrist!
It isnt Dispensationalists who are blinded but those who follow RC inspired Covenant theology that are blinded!
I suppose you think that the State of Israel has no prophetic significance?
IDH77 2 years ago
Why do dispensationalists insist that there exists a "gap" between the 69th and 70th weeks of Daniel's prophecy (Dan.9:24-27)? What in the text even begins to substantiate this assertion?
Pleas tell me the date and decree you believe the 69 weeks began.
There are two main erroneous teachings infecting Protestantism today with regards to eschatology: Preterism and Futurism. Neither of which are the historic Protestant perspectives. I am NOT RC; I am a "5 solas" Protestant.
rkg62976 2 years ago
I agree Preterism is an error. Historicism is merely incomplete.
There is a gap because Christ was cut off AFTER the 69th week (Dan 9:26) and Revelation describes the 70th week in which events happen that have no correlation with any past historical events.
E.g. Rev 11:2-3 = 1260 days = 42 Jewish Lunar months = first half of the 7 years.
See Rev 12:6 for the second half of the Great Tribulation! The woman = Israel made to flee from the Land. Zech 14.
IDH77 2 years ago
Historicism states that the 490 years of Daniel's prophecy (Dan.9:24-27) was continuous, ie., NO GAPS. The Messianic nature of Dan.9:24-27 has NO connection with the 1260 day=year prophecies of Dan.7,12, Rev.11,12, and 13. It is the consistent biblical (and Protestant) interpretation that the 1260 days should be interpreted as LITERAL YEARS. Futurists are attempting to blend the 70th week with the 1260 day=year prophecies. This is the error of dispensational futurism-- it is inconsistent.
rkg62976 2 years ago
The trouble is that the word day in Hebrew actually says evening and morning meaning literal days. (8:14)
It this this kind of gross ERROR that led to Millerism and the JW's and the SDA's!
So in fact it is Dispensationalism that is consistant not Historicism.
From Nehemiah to the triumphal entry is 483 years EXACTLY!
IDH77 2 years ago
The problem is that Protestant exegetes (long before the SDA's or JW's) saw the 1260 day time prophecies as LITERAL YEARS. See, for example, John Gill's commentary on Rev.11. Dispensationalism is inconsistent in that it chooses when to apply the day=year principle, and when not to. Either ALL time prophecies are day=year, or NONE of them are.
2nd decree of Artaxerxes=444 B.C. 444 B.C.+483 years= 39 A.D.-- way too late for the crucifixion of Christ.
rkg62976 2 years ago
Im not aware that ANY Dispensationalist applies the day = year interpretation!
As I said before Dan 8:14 day = Evening and morning meaning a literal day!
On one video I possess someone worked out that the 483 literal years (Luna calendar) had been fulfilled from Nehemiah to the triumphal entry to Jerusalem!
2 Peter 3:8 is taken merely that God is outside time as we are inside it. Isa 57:15
IDH77 2 years ago
Dispensationalists apply the day=year principle in Dan.9:24-27, don't they? And while some might not agree with each other, many apply the day=year principle to Rev.2:10, and say that the "ten days tribulation" refers to the persecution of the Church under Diocletian from 303-313 A.D. I concur with dispensationalists in this. They are inconsistent, however, in that they choose when and when not to apply the day=year principle. I believe the Word of God to be consistent with itself.
rkg62976 2 years ago
Im sorry but I have both Darbys commentary and Scofields study Bible and neither of them mention day = year interpretations for Rev 2:10 or Daniel either.
I dont know where you have got your information from.
IDH77 2 years ago
Please check some modern dispensational futurist's writings.
rkg62976 2 years ago
I haI have I am not sure you have!
I have Scofields 1917 Bible and Darbys commentary plus many books on the subject.
I have never come across what you say!
IDH77 2 years ago
I have a question though. If the Jews are Gods chosen people, what does that make the Christians?
October31st1517 2 years ago
Exactly.
ranchnman 2 years ago
Hi, I am a christian. I believe that I am one of God's chosen people because I make Jesus my lord. I believe that we are part of the new covenant. I am a gentile. I believe that anyone who follows Jesus becomes one of God's chosen people, that should be our first personal priority.
jcborja 2 years ago
Exactly. There is absolutely no reason to build up a wall of separation between Jews and Gentiles when it comes to who God's people are. The apostle makes this perfectly clear in Eph.2:13-22. Dispensationalists are attempting to rebuild walls that Christ came to tear down.
rkg62976 2 years ago
Simply because the Nation of Israel are still Gods ORIGINAL chosen people this does not invalidate Christian theology! Far from it in fact.
Rom 11:28-29 NKJV Concerning the gospel they [the Nation of Israel] are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. FOR THE GIFTS AND THE CALLING OF GOD ARE IRREVOCABLE.
IDH77 2 years ago
Matreiya is the antichrist
AnimalIvBeCome88 2 years ago
wow! I really thought it was obama! the Lord is blessing you with amazing insights!
khonamanje 2 years ago