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  • That feministing channel pissed me off, especially when she said "fuck you, US Army", which is the same "male dominated" organization that keeps her free from foreign endangerment.

    I've seen so many women like her who're always criticizing and condemning us men rather than appreciating and supporting us.

    When we step down from our roles as proctectors and providers in ALL fields, I wonder what they'll do on their own.

  • Woman are not men, and they should not try to copy our dominance which is going against the way nature made men and women different. We should respect each other on the terms set by history, when our countries are endangered by others who do you turn to? We are the stronger and always will be, that is not to say that we may oppress women or abuse them. Great video and well said. Thank you for uploading and standing up for all men on this planet.

  • @martineric1966 Indeed, the problem is that feminists teach that these differences are not used by men to be complimentary to women as you can see by PatAnnW's comment. - "Men got into their position of power over women" She does not believe that women have a role of equally different and complimentary power in the behavior of men.

    She is taught that men do what we do for ourselves and not for the benefit of women...Feminist dogma is shameful hateful and insulting.

  • Everything that you say is based upon a partriarchal standard that was imposed upon women and men. Patriarchy is an attempt to be women. Read books such as when God was a woman. Men got into their position of power over women through wars with women. Patriarchy turned everything upside down.

  • @PatAnnW Wow, so you're saying that men are really woman impersonators who made god in the image of a man though god is really a woman.. fascinating. Men did this through war with women.

    You are really screwed up lady...

  • @PatAnnW@PatAnnW Furthermore patriarchy means patrilineal and male enfranchisement as part of the family.

    Matriarchy means that men are not a part of the family and are entirely expendable from the family with ZERO obligation, risk, responsibility or liabilities placed upon women. Matriarchy survives off forced male labor to provide to women that are not his wife and children that he is estranged from by law. It is also enabled by government husbandry to support male disposability.

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  • *GOD*

  • I swear to Good, I will never PAY child Support to anyone rather than directly to my daughter. The day you take my child away and you only give me 4 days a Month and make me pay, is the day I will quit my JOB, lose everything, Run, hide, and go to prison. BUT I will never ,ever PAY 1 cent to state, Mother, or anyone.

    call me whatever you want. to me there is I am a parent or I am not, no between.

  • Then you'd prefer not to be a parent? How would your daughter beable to spend equal time with you and her mother? Doesn't your daughter go to school or have something of a life established with the mother?

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  • "Wildice" NO CHILD SUPPORT to me means: Parent/s who does not spend time with the children, does not take vacation with them, provide health care, educate them, show love to them, feed them, BUT PAYS MONEY.

    An absent Parent that PAYS is NOT a good PARENT.

    Just think, LAW forces Parents, make them ABSENT PARENTS that PAYS by default by NOT allowig FATHERS to have EQUAL acces to their children. They allow the FATHER to only see their children 4 days a MONTH and PAY MONEY.

  • WildNice" Child Support to me means: Both Parents support their children by: Spending equal amount of time with the children, buy clothes, provide housing, food, take vacations, educate, provide necessary support, pay for they needs directly, health care, and show love to them etc etc.

  • In certain situations though a parent can't spend equal amount of time with the kids. Not in a relationship and especially not in a divorce. Kids have to go to school,

    so they go to school with mom and stay with dad on the weekends or something like that.

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  • "wildNice" To me you support Fathers rights based on the comments below. Why don't you put ur words in to action!? Why don't you go and sign the Petition at ACFC-American coalition for Fathers and Children. All we want is FAMILY law reform that allows both Parents have equal rights to children.

  • I support a fathers right to be their to support his child. I support families of all kinds. I don't support all this other stuff I'm hearing. I don't support not paying child support, whatever the situation. I don't support abandoning children because "women have the choice to abort and we don't". I don't support this completely mind boggling "we have no control over our bodies" philosophy that doesn't make any sense.

  • Besides, lets be honest. A lot of those in the fathers rights camp are interested in actually restricting my rights as a homosexual. A lot of men feel I am a threat being a lesbian and would rather not offer me the same rights as a heterosexual couple anyway.

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  • I missed one :). What do u think about Draft law's?

    Thanx.

  • As far as I know no one can be drafted into a war. I don't know why they make males sign up for selective service. There is no draft and their shouldn't be. If there is ever a war where they find they have to force people to fight in then that's a war we shouldn't fight and we may as well just give up on all this democracy crap.

  • "WildNice" ever MEN can be drafted into a war. However they don't draft because there is no need now.

    Believe me under any circumstances NO solider wants to go to WAR. But, it's their duty to Provide and Protect.

  • Another thing, if men are "enslaved" by having to pay 17 percent of their income to the children they produce, why are not women "ENSLAVED" by having to carry the child for 9 months and then clothes, feed, nurture,educate, discipline, finance, entertain ext, ext. That's 100x more work and energy then the man puts in, so what have you? Were all your mothers morons for their self inflicted slavery? And didn't your fathers "enslave them" by getting them pregnant?

  • Mind you this is not my way of thinking at all. A mother is not a slave, she is responsible for her child...SO IS THE FATHER. Men constantly calling financial support of their child "slavery" is absolutely disgusting. And part of the reason I am very glad I have separated myself from the notion of romantic ties with man. To put themselves over the well being of their own children...ugh! But just to ask the previous question, i'll speak your language and entertain the ridiculous notion.

  • Why do you feed the man hating lesbian stereotype?

    I say stereotype for lack of a better word, It's not a stereotype anymore when it's just about every single lesbian you meet.

  • Because i really don't care about any sterotype. If you don't want to hear the question DON'T. If you cant answer the question, DONT. If you want to think I'm a "man hating lesbian" so what? I don't understand how that effects my life at all.

  • LOL You say: "Men constantly calling financial support of their child "slavery" is absolutely disgusting."

    If you did not watch the first video on my channel wildnice I suggest you do so..

    Men would rather be a father and have the opportunity to be involved in the life of their child.. Men think women should be independent and self supporting and if she leaves him, he should not have to support her financially. Do you believe that women can support themselves? Do you believe in fatherhood?

  • If the woman is self sufficient I DON'T believe the man should have to support her after marriage. His children, YES Absolutely. His ex wife? certainsituations yes, certain situations no. I responded to the question more further down below.

  • "WildNice" What do u think about Family laws, Should they change or remain the way they are?

    Do u support a LAW that give Both Parents equal access to children by default? Should there be shelters for male Victims of domestic Violence?

    Should we have classes in universities for MEN, like they have for WOMEN?

    In case of Gays adopting a child, and they split who should pay child support?

  • Some things in family law probably should change. Fathers should have more access to their children, if their access is being restricted. Unless the father/mother is unsuitable for some reason. Both parents should have access to the kids, unless one or both are somehow crazy.

    I think there already are classes for men. I personally don't see a problem with it.

    If two gays adopt and they split up, under normal circumstances, the partner who is no longer in the home should still pay child support.

  • same thing goes for children born through sperm donation. Under normal circumstances (2 female partners go to a bank and decide to have a child together with a strangers sperm) if they should break up the partner that leaves should have to pay child support for the child. At the very least child support, you would hope for more though.

    Gay people should be held just as responsible for straight people...wherever applicable of course.

  • "WildNice" on gays. You say: if they should break up the Partner that leaves should have to pay child support for the child!

    When straight ppl brake up, the PARTNER that leaves does not pay child support, and take ur children, house, cars, and sometimes is awarded Alimony.

    In straight relationship, there is no law on leave, a Woman can just leave her Family and will not be held responsible.

  • Sorry, when I said "the partner that leaves" i was thinking about the one who leaves the marital home, not necessarily the one who ends the relationship. For a woman to leave her family, that would mean she abandons her child and leaves it for the husband/father to raise.

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  • "wildnice" Can you please, explain what does "CHILD SUPPORT" means to you?

  • Because women chose to give birth, They have a choice both before conception and during pregnancy. It is indeed slavery for men as they have no opt out should they have made a mistake, Like women have an opt out through abortion.

    You could tell men to just be more responsible, And I understand why you would say that. But why should men be more responsible then women have to?

  • Oh, so because a woman decides not to kill the child growing inside her and takes responsibility for her actions she is "holding a man in enslavement" by being responsible? Interesting. And you wonder why women are repulsed by penis. Penis wants to go around fuck anything it likes and then not have ANY RESPONSIBILITY for the consequences. Meanwhile, women are damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they abort they are evil, if they don't they are "enslaving men". Penis=Failure for women.

  • Inconclusion the "man hating lesbian" title is hardly anything to be ashamed of. Seeing as how penis just equals pain and suffering for women, anyway you look at it, avoid penis just means a woman is intelligent. More intelligent then a man who will fuck a woman and either create a child to be aborted or sign himself over for his own slavery. I'll opt out of my slavery thank you. You can give me whatever title you like for it.

  • Interesting, What was your relationship with your father like?

  • If they abort they are evil? You honestly believe that crap?

  • No I don't, but that's the position a lot of you guys take. I don't blame a woman at all for not wanting to have to be tied to a man for life that she might not want to be and not wanting the responsibility of a child ON TOP of having to deal with the father. But if you read over some of these other comments men seem to enjoy complaining. If women abort they are bad, if they have the child they are almost worst. like I said, damned if you do-damned if you don't.

  • How does that have any relevance to the argument between you and me? What a cop out.

  • you asked me if i believe a woman is evil for aborting. I answered you. Cope out honey? Or did you just not appreciate that my answer wasn't what you hoped id be.

  • Lol

    first sentence

    "but that's the position a lot of you guys take."

    It's a cop out.

  • ohohoh, but They don't have to deal with the father, Many women treat the father of their child like visitors or worse. They do not have it bad at all which is why i find the enormous sympathy you have for them, hilarious.

  • And i don't think you understood what i was saying, She can take as much responsibility as she wants. It has nothing to do with forcing someone who has no options.

    And kudos to you, Although you did make the mistake of assuming you speak for all women, Which is not true, You don't even speak for most women, You didn't don the heterosexual orientation to give your disparaging comments about the male form any validity. +1 for you.

  • Infact her ability to take responsibility OR NOT is the entire issue. Men do not have that option.

  • so lets play with this idea. Men want the ability to either beable to abort what's growing in someone elses body OR beable to have children without any financial obligations. Not even any other obligations..they don't have to get the kids ready for school in the morning, teach them to read, or sign them up for ballet classes. They just HAVE to pay 17 percent of their income to the raising of children.

    So men, who don't seem capable of opting out of fatherhood by wearing a condom--

  • WOW

    "Men want the ability to either beable to abort what's growing in someone elses body "

    NO

    YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND AT ALL.

    Most men DO NOT want that.

  • "So men, who don't seem capable of opting out of fatherhood by wearing a condom-- "

    Oh i see. So women and men shouldn't have options during Pregnancy, So you don't support abortion then?

    why should men be more responsible then women?

  • Illogical.A man isn't more responsible then a woman who is actually nurturing and caring for her child. And if she aborts then she's relieving both parties of responsibility. In either scenario the male has the least amount of responsibility. The only way a man could have less responsibility is by not making him responsible at all! Destroy the 17%.

    Horrible in one way, but i bet that would wake these girls up from the Disney princess fantasy real fast.

  • The thing is that men and women make mistakes. if women make a mistake in getting pregnant they get an abortion and are hailed as strong women and role models, If men make the mistake of getting somebody pregnant and the women happens to keep the child they are ridiculed as deadbeat dads and forced into 18 years of child support.

  • I don't know of any woman who is hailed as strong and a role model because she had an abortion. Perhaps for the other factors surrounding that abortion, but the abortion itself. I've yet to see that one...

    Who is hailed as a hero for having an abortion? I don't believe women should be vilified for having an abortion, but going to the other extreme isn't any better.

  • LOL you say: "Another thing, if men are "enslaved" by having to pay 17 percent of their income to the children they produce"

    Try 50-60% when you include woman support.. The law says that women can't support themselves and that men have to financially support them.

  • Alimony, that's a whole 'nother bag of chips and I'm not terribly interested in that one.

    However, it's my understanding that a woman only gets alimony if she was a housewife and expected to stay home and care for the kids. If a woman worked throughout the marriage she's less likely to get alimony or as much alimony. Sounds fair to me.

  • Also alimony only has to be paid in a situation where there was a marriage. For some reason a woman doesn't get alimony for an out of wedlock birth. I was talking about out of wedlock births since a child born in a marriage is another story entirely.

  • by the way...if you do a search for "househusbands" on youtube you'll find a lot of videos showing a lot of men are staying home. Meaning for some reason they seem to have a choice. Meaning once again Iam confused as to what it is exactly your are complaining about.

  • See that's the thing, women are accommodating. It's been that way with all my GF's on some level. They do what they have to to make it work, and for both parties to be happy. You guys are all bitching about who pays for dinner and who stays home. You don't even have a wife yet. So what if the woman who falls in love with you is like really into zoology? You could care less about her passions. You should be her only passion in life. She has to stay home because that strokes your ego.

  • So, I don't know you guys do whatever. While your trying to change women so that we all go back in the home where we "belong". I'll be working on myself, reading magazines and websites about housekeeping, trying to make my business as successful as possible, trying to be a fun interesting person, reading books and articles about love and romance. That way when I find my princess (again) I can do whatever I have to to make her happy and not loose her over some BS.

  • I can't speak for all lesbians but, no, I don't worry about that stuff when I haven't even found someone I want to marry yet. Well I have...but I'm saying if your not in a relationship it's stupid to worry about these things. What if I marry a woman that's an excellent cook, loves to keep house and do all that domestic shit? Okay then she will mostly stay home. If I marry a woman that's brilliant in business or something then she's the bread winner.

  • don't for get that men are not given the right to opt out of the women's choice and then sacrifice there body via labor for 18 yrs. 9 months vs 18 yrs, + college,, yea women not being able to kill their babies would be such oppresion.

  • @ORVX

    That is the point, they get the woman to rule over the common man, there by destroying the family, and thereby destroying both of us. And our next generation of fatherless bastard misfits.

  • Correct, agreed, women have choices and control over their own bodies where as men do not. In fact women own men's bodies under penalty of debtors prison no less. Rulings come forth as follows...

    If you fail to support your ex-wife from your empty apartment you will lose your drivers license, passport, and be taken to prison until you work for her once again.. When you are able to work for her you must pay her 22% interest as punishment for not supporting her. Women are a liability not asset

  • child support is communistic in origin. american women are just lucky that our system can enforce it's laws. in most places the men simply ignore them.

  • You Say: "american women are just lucky that our system can enforce it's laws. in most places the men simply ignore them." Well it just makes sense really. Does anyone think that a male in nature would continue to support a female by having an intermediary (who takes a cut for themselves of his resources) send her food or resources from a far?

    Males are not slaves to females in nature, you leave, you support yourself. Unlike human females animal females are independent and self supporting.

  • yeah women have in a sense competed with men for resources, albeit unfairly via affirmative action, child support and alimony. Couple in easy promotion for jobs any 5th grader could do and they expect butt loads of money. women have become their own suitor, with the governments help of course.

    ever hear of those alpha apes that swing out of the trees to smash the lesser males in the head? and if the alpha male shows he is hurt, he can get pounced on and killed? alpha males created feminism.

  • Men don't have control over their bodies? So you just get a woman pregnant...how? Some of your saliva accidently falls on ehr and BAM your inslaved for 18 yrs?

    Unless you guys want to take responsibility for your own actions...meaning PENIS enters VAGINA without a condom or birth control, don't expect to be taken seriously. In the end it's slavery you willingly signed up for...not that taking care of the children you bring into this world should be considered "slavery". How despicable...

  • You say: "Unless you guys want to take responsibility for your own actions"

    I hate to inform you but men are the only ones that have to take responsibility for our actions and as if that were not enough the actions of women as well.

  • In essence women are something to be bought and sold. They insist on having monetary value.

    Therefore relationships with women and even marriage are monetary transactions. The price women charge to bear your children and or be a wife is cost prohibitive.

    Again, women are a liability and a dependent not an independent or an asset in terms of gains to risk. Women changed the laws in the 70's.

    They said they did not have a "choice" to take men's resources if they left him.

  • good vid!

  • You bring your points across very intelligently and respectfully. The most maddening issue is the issue of women having the right to do what they wish with their own body. Its a disgrace that a woman can legally kill a man's child. There are many laws against doing as you wish with you own body, I disagree with you on one issue. You seem to take the issue of sexual assault lightly. 25% seems quite low to me. Almost every woman I know has been molested, raped or sexually assaulted.

  • You Say: "The most maddening issue is the issue of women having the right to do what they wish with their own body."

    Yes, female way of dress is not just something men see but feel as well.

    It is common conception that women should have no responsibility for the cloths they wear and how it makes men feel or how it affects men personally, emotionally or sexually. Though actions of men that are direct or indirect and affect women likewise is classified as harassment.

  • @justme8P1

    Almost every woman you know? You do know that feminists think all sex between men and women is rape?

    And 15,000 men are convicted of rape every year in America. Hardly millions like math challenged feminags would have us believe.

    Now in South africa 25% of the women there are raped, the men admit to it. And void of police, there is nobody there to enforce the law. That is coming to America. Once we go bankrupt. Then women will need male protection again.

  • that is a good point Verlch, the same metnality that created man hate and feminism is the same mentality that will lead us into chaos and women once again being 99% dependant on men. We tried to give them, 50% independence, and to thak us they said F U, we have daddy gov, and now they are gonna lose it ALL.

  • @ORVX

    You would will be 99% dependent on something male created. Either state governments, ex husbands, or current husbands.

    All that is happening now is you ladies doubled the workforce, forced women to work, lowered men's wages. And created legions of fatherless bastard misfits. Day care doesn't build confidence in children.

    All so what? A handful of women could reinvent the wheel?

    A woman's job in the home is far more important than anything she can do in the workforce.

  • Verlch why do u seem to argue with people who agree with you, both Red and myself generally agree with what you saying, maybe not to same estent but geezz pick your battles, lol, neither one of us is a "you ladies" .It is not us you should be debating

  • Actually I prefer short men.

  • I'm not saying that ALL women are like this, but the women that i've come across in my life only care about themselves, not only with me but with other men as well, we HAVE to know how to treat women, we have to HAVE backbones, we HAVE to protect women, we HAVE to make women laugh, and the list goes on and on, and on the other hand, i've never seen a women HAVE to tend to a man's needs, But i guess i'm making the right choice my marrying someone from a different culture

  • You say: "we HAVE to protect women, we HAVE to make women laugh, and the list goes on and on, and on the other hand, i've never seen a women HAVE to tend to a man's needs"

    Your sentiment is felt and I believe that men's needs are not considered legitimate but rather how we can change and "evolve" to what women want from us.

    Males and Masculinity are not highly valued or respected in our culture.

  • @Red0660

    Without men you ladies would be speaking German right now. Or doing rain dances in a tee pee.

  • Dude you just aren't paying attention. Women HAVE to do alot of things for men. We HAVE to know how to treat men. You have pretty much said that by saying you married someone from a different culture. You decided we didn't know how to treat you. Men so expect us to tend to their needs. There are things women want from men and things men want from women that's all.

  • To be honest with you, I didn't say ALL, but really to fulfill a man's needs are simple and MOST of us will stay with you for it(if you know what i mean) but most complain and in order for us to stay with you, oh we have to be fun and exciting and make you laugh and know how to talk to you and to make it perfectly clear just like i said it on my last comment, not all women are like this, just the one's that i have come across, maybe its me looking in the wrong places

  • Is it just me or when in a relation ship where a man makes more capital then a women, decisions in the family are usually made equally. However when a woman makes more money in the relationship she claims the r"ight" to make more choices than the male and many times turn to emasculate him to excorsize that "right."

    I thought they wanted equallity...

  • I Enjoyed reading most of comments. I agree with the "Red0660" 100%.

    Thanks for Videos.. keep them coming.

    Another 10 star Video!!!

  • You say that it is a beatiful thing for a woman to have sex with a woman and shouldn't be seen as degrading? Would you think the same if you were the one being torn open? If a woman wanted to penetrate you would that still be a beautiful thing or would it then be demeaning?

    As for men not having the choice to be shipped off to die, does the draft still occur in the United States today? As I am not American I honestly don't know.

  • You say: "You say that it is a beatiful thing for a woman to have sex with a woman and shouldn't be seen as degrading?"

    I think you meant beautiful thing to have sex with a man as I don't like lesbians at all. But there is nothing degrading about being receptive to a man. Sex is not a giver\taker type thing but mutual. Sex is not something a man does to a woman.

  • Yes that is what I meant thank you, I appologize I was a bit tired when I wrote that.

  • Yes, The United States maintains the most technologically advanced mass standing imperial army that currently occupies 140 nations. We spend about 800 billion dollars and 68% of our discressionary budget on warfare and defense, more than the entire spending of all developed nations. We are a very militaristic people. All boys are required to register for military conscription or face prison. Failure to do so is a federal offence.

  • So not only do you think 14 yr olds should beable to have sex with adults but you think a man shouldn't have to pay child support for the children they create?

    WONDERFUL!

    So we'll have an army of pregnant teens and the over aged dads also force them to take care of it.

    I gave up on men a long time ago so I wouldn't have to deal with mens selfishness and disgusting lack of integrity anymore...but why do men seem to almost be proud of these evils? It's like they wont stop talking about it

  • I think I am done talking with you but thanks for your thoughts.

  • You seem to hear what you want to hear no matter what I say. Such as you thinking I advocate sleeping with under age girls and that a man would rather not be a father and pay child support instead.

  • "I say, and you are a woman and how the hell do you know?"

    I know because I am a woman and most of my friends and a lot of my family are women. 10 out of 13 of my friends have been raped OR sexually abused in some way. So if you attach the sexual abuse on to it the "1 in 4" actually sounds low to me, but I understand I live in a big city with tons of crazy men and other parts of the country may be different.

  • You say: "10 out of 13 of my friends have been raped OR sexually abused in some way."

    That is amazing and unfortunate. No wonder your about the only woman here commenting on my videos.

  • Men kill men. Not just for female attention because men are just generally violent creatures. Look at television, movies, whatever. To hold a grown mans attention it has to have some sort of sex or violence in it. Women don't make men violent...yet men have to blame women for all their bad behavior, of course. If you want men to stop bleeding and dieing perhaps you can stop attacking and killing each other?

    Oh and Please stop attack us women as well?

  • Men will never stop being aggressive and constructive. It is masculine aggression that you owe your very existence to. Your statement is also incorrect, most all men are not violent or hurt others.

    If you don't like male aggression then I suppose you could have built your own house, your computer and internet, and the light and energy that is keeping you warm or cool right now ALL COMES FROM MALE AGGRESSION.

  • You obviously do not understand where energy comes form, nor do you know that men invented the internet to provide for the common defense of the United States.

    Men have a unique ability to build, fix and utilize resources intelligently and have harvested and utilized these resources to produce everything you see around you. When I say everything, I mean everything around you at this very moment....

    Men create more than we destroy and yes we have the power to do both.

  • I know you are lesbian, I know you are a sex worker and I know that you have severe problems that include the hatred of men and boys. Your demographic is not uncommon within the feminist fold.

    You resent men for our power of destruction and construction and see only destruction but fail to realize that men are good and a blessing to us all.

    I feel empathy for the pain that must be yours to see the men and the world through your eyes. I wish I could heal you somehow.

  • I do not hate boys. Boys are adorable. Men?

    They also suppress women for thousands of years, keeping them from getting an education and then flaunt the fact that they created light bulbs like everything was even stevens since time began.

    Also when someone poses a comment or a question that they cannot answer they seem to perfer a personal attack or distraction rather then answering it..

    I should say some cultures of men, other cultures of men have respect for women and do treat them as

  • WildNice - what you don't realise is that it wasn't only women who weren't able to get an education OR vote - but men too. It was the working classes and poorer who had NO say in anything. That includes the men. Women and men compliment each other. Men are better at protecting, and women are good at rearing kids/having them. It makes no sense for women to try to be like men, we can't be better men than the men. End of story.

  • @alittlebitofperil

    According to the Constitution only the land owning class was to vote. So yes 98% of men shouldn't vote either.

    They gave us the least amount of government to prevent anarchy. With the proper checks and balances this would have gone on the right way forever.

    Now the guy with the most contributions, and free press, can rule this mobocracy. Which will be a socialist dictatorship soon.

  • What you don't understand is that all most women seem to want is an equal partnership. If men are so concerned about home and family then why can't they at least do half/some of the house work so their wives can feel more fullfilled in their lives. Really doesn't seem like much to ask for me but men are willing to go to war over it. They want women doing all the domestic work so they have more time to hang out with friends and enjoy life.

  • I personally love it how the best use you could find for women is nothing! You try to give women all the credit for childbirth which is still impossible without the man, while we still stand the same. Men created almost everything in this world!

  • You Say: " If you want men to stop bleeding and dieing perhaps you can stop attacking and killing each other?"

    We will only stop doing so when you allow us to. Men compete for territory and resources and for status because this is what garners mating opportunity with females...

    Humans are 8 million years old. Men are what you selected for us to be. If you don't need us then fine but please stop demanding we support you and "your" bastard children. We will no longer protect and provide to you

  • Wow, this was old. Why did it take you so long to reply to this.

    Um anyway, stop blaming women for men's blood lust. Men are violent people just like women are chatty people. Men wanting to blow each other away has nothing to do with women.

    HELL the most violent times in history were during the golden ages of butt sex. The Greeks, who didn't really care diddly squat about women were all peaceful little fairies or something?

    They may have dressed as such but history actually proves otherwise.

  • You Say: "stop blaming women for men's blood lust."

    You mean stop blaming women for male-male competition for territory and resources.

    No one is blaming women but you certainly don't have to work for what you demand men acquire do you???

    So stop blaming men for getting the things you want. If you want to stop bloodshed then stop selling yourselves.

    Pay for a date, bring us gifts, and for god sake take care of a man so he can stay home and wean his infant child. Give men choices.

  • Honey why are you on me again anyway? I thought it was pretty clear you weren't going to listen to me and I wasn't going to listen to you. I don't worry about paying for a date, bringing a girl gifts, or weather she's going to stay home with the kids or not. That's the beauty of gay relationships. We don't obsess about stupid shit like that. There are no roles, no preconceived bullshit. Everything falls into place and if it doesn't then that just ain't the right person for us.

  • You Say: "I don't worry about paying for a date or weather she's going to stay home with the kids or not." So women in lesbian relationships do not sell themselves?

    Can't lesbians have children by adoption or from a bank where male gametes are stored especially for them? They can even pick out their male gametes by what celebrity he looks like. This is all set up for lesbians to have children..

    SOOO are you trying to tell me lesbians don't think about who is going to get pregnant or roles?

  • I can't speak for all lesbians but, no, I don't worry about that stuff when I haven't even found someone I want to marry yet. Well I have...but I'm saying if your not in a relationship it's stupid to worry about these things. What if I marry a woman that's an excellent cook, loves to keep house and do all that domestic shit? Okay then she will mostly stay home. If I marry a woman that's brilliant in business or something then she's the bread winner. That's pretty easy.

  • You Say "What if I marry a woman that's an excellent cook, loves to keep house and do all that domestic shit? Okay then she will mostly stay home. If I marry a woman that's brilliant in business or something then she's the bread winner. That's pretty easy."

    WOW, straight women will not let men do that! You lesbians have it great...In straight relationships it is only women who have choices. They won't marry men who are less successful than they are. Women are the only ones with choices.

  • men fight over territory with other males. for dominance, and access to good looking women. to marry.

    you women are along for the ride. only the world has tricked you into thinking you are in the drivers seat. fact is neither of us are, but a crafty intellectual bunch of men that rule the world, and their think tanks. these dominate alpha males rule the world.

  • I mostly agree with that post. Except I don't understand why I should care. Men are eventually going to run around and let their true natures be exposed as a bunch of ravenous rapist. Oh well, least I won't be housing and feeding the rapist and pretending I love him out of fear. Then 90% of the population will have AIDS and I can only guess some new, even more horrific manifestations of the disease and we'll all die anyway.

    At least I get some girl sex before i go :)

  • You Say "Men are eventually going to run around and let their true natures be exposed as a bunch of ravenous rapist."

    WOW, a ravenous militant man hating lesbian feminist could not have said it any better! Thanks WildNice!

    It's so unfortunate that it's women like you who are members of the Council On Women and Girls, teach your boot camps in college campuses and are the leaders and voice of regular women.

    Only men it seems will have to stand up and fight you as women will not.

  • Hey that's what you guys are threatening "Love us or we'll just run around and rape you and you'll need us anyway to protect you".

    Blah blah blah. Don't catch an attitude with me for repeating eactly what your ilk is plotting. Even if it didn't come out of YOUR mouth (I was actually talking to Verlch anyway)

    But um, I'm glad you see I understand what the plan is and am pretty much unmoved by it. Unmoved in the ways of appreciating and loving men for their constant threats and complaining anyway

  • uh...yep, men making excuses for their disgusting behavior. That was a pretty long boring rant or something but what pisses me off is when this prick says 1 and 4 women are not raped. A. You are not a woman so how the hell would you know? B. Another example of a man trying to tell a woman about herself to please his own needs. For the record 1 out of 4 women have been raped...that doesn't even include all forms of sexual abuse/sexual harrasment/moslestations.

  • You say: "1 and 4 women are not raped. A. You are not a woman so how the hell would you know?"

    I say, and you are a woman and how the hell do you know? "75% of male students and 55% of female students involved in date rape had been drunk or using drugs."

    Furthermore did you know that it is "date rape" if she or both are intoxicated That sex is seen as something a man does to a woman!? By law it is only the man who is supposed to be in control and of sound mind when intoxicated This is wrong

  • That stuff you said about making love ect:

    ....bull....

    So, a few feminists think like that, it does not mean that all do. I for one do not.

    And, sexuality: is beautiful, but it is insulting when a guy (a very dim guy lol) stares at our breasts and does not put his sexual desires aside to listen to what we have to say.

    A very sexy woman: I will think of her in that way, but if she has something to say I will listen. I'm not saying that men won't, I'm saying it feels like that when they stare.

  • Really so if your breasts are clearly visable for all to see you think it's wrong to stare at them? if a mans penis was bare for all to see would you not stare? Most mature men dont flaunt their sexuality in your faces so why can you?

  • Wow, thats so big of you, to imply that I show my breasts off.

    I cannot help that I have large breasts, and most clothing is designed for smaller bodys.

    No, we can not. Or, not if we dont want to be called a 'slut'.

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  • NO, I said guys stare at womens breasts, including mine, I never said anything about showing them off or provoking men to do so.

    I'm 14 next week.

    My breasts are not on my neck, the camera was not in shot of my chest.

    34DD. UK size.

    Now, tell me thats not big.

    So it's not immature of YOU to assume I am slutty, and judge me so quickly on my age?

  • How did i asume your a "slutty"? and how did i judge you on your age other then your claim to large breast size which is reasonable as you are thirteen.

    Maturity isnt proportioned to age, I know this just as much as you. Yet you seem to care what you will be called if you do X trying to make out there will actually be repercussions where it's just inconsistant name calling.

    And yeah usually showing your breasts is showing them off, in the sense you made the decision not to cover them up.

  • It is common conception that women should have no responsibility for the cloths they wear and how it makes men feel or how it affects men personally, emotionally or sexually. Though actions of men that are direct or indirect and affect women likewise is classified as harassment. THIS IS WRONG AND NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

  • LOL you got owned by puberty

  • LOL. I know this is old but i find it ironic that this is coming from someone called "thecreepyguy".

    Anyway women having breast don't flaunt their sexuality. Exactly where should we put our breast so it wouldn't distract you? Furthermore if a guy had his cock out i wouldn't stare any longer then a few seconds, and those few seconds would be in shock and horror. Then I'd be searching for something to throw at him.

  • "Anyway women having breast don't flaunt their sexuality"

    Who are you arguing with? It doesn't seem like me because i can't recall me ever making that point. Why did you make this a reply to me?

    So seeing a penis gives you feelings of shock and horror, And makes you feel violent towards such a person?

    Interesting.

    Do you ever get feelings of anger or distrust at men who you have never met? Were you abused as a child? Do you live with men? If so what is your relationship with them like?

  • If you want your value as a human being to be shown for what is on your chest then let it be shown. I personally think that women should be able to walk around without their shirts on, And no i don't think that it should be an excuse for rape. But you will get looks and they won't be thinking 'What an intelligent,Bright, Young lady '

    That description is for women who prefer to be seen for their intelligence rather then their body.

  • Yet breast protrude from the chest and are clearly visible even when wearing some coats. So men use that as an excuse to be crass. Basically pissing in a gold fish pond and when the fishes protest, telling them they shouldn't be in the water.

  • What you don't understand is that there is a difference between a woman who just has large breasts because that's how her body developed, And a woman who chose exhibit her breasts.

  • "My body my choise" You can be anti-war. It's not quite the same thing, pregnancy is biological/inside you/w/e but yeah, i get where your coming from. I think that women should have the ultimate choise with abortion: giving birth and those 9 months are a pain in the neck: but men should have the right to say if they want to keep the baby, but if they do and the mother doesnt they must take full respnisbility after the baby is born. I can understand a woman being afraid to give birth

  • what are u talking about with the sex red? feminists dont hate male sexuality or sex itself - in fact women encourage women to embrace having sex over what was told to them all their lives ----u are contradictory and by speaking in that tone u are making these (easily brainwashed guys) think u know it all! it is a psychological effect and i know what ur doing - no shouting necessary but the obvious tone to which u take gives an underlying message that anything u say will be right- bong!

  • It is because of male sexuality that we even exist. We can have children until we die. In the past with multiple wives. We have a large sex drive, compared to most women. We produce 10 trillion sperm in one man's life time. Compared to a woman's 360 eggs. A woman's fertility starts to go negative around 30. And is usually done from 36 to 40.

    I guess God didn't want old women nurturing their children.

  • You say:"-u are contradictory and by speaking in that tone u are making these (easily brainwashed guys) think u know it all!"

    I know that this is your way of saying that you agree with me and much of what I have posted here. No one said my statements were intelligent, nor that I have a higher status among any of my brohters here, but you just did. It is your intellect coming through, conceding and agreeing with me and I really do appreciate that.

  • You say: "women encourage women to embrace having sex over what was told to them all? their lives"

    No, feminists encourage women to control and use sex and especially the power of it's synthetic separation from conception to empower women when the power and exploitation sought is over men. Women end up devaluing and themselves and destroying their relationships with men.

    Perhaps Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture by Ariel Levy would be a good read for you.

  • control and use sex? how? and besides i was talking bout feminists in the first place.....and u only say that because u feel women should not have sex - u feel men should have that control otherwise u would encourage women to be more comfortable with sex like feminists do!u make up stories and believe in these sexist articles about feminism just cause its convenient to believe that women MUST be the second sex or the inferior.u may not know it but i know ur brand of men- i use that term loosely

  • Your assertions are unfounded and a result of your subjective view of men. I have in no way inferred any of your statements. Don't tell me what I think or feel. Tell me what you think and feel. Tell me objective arguments and facts please as well.

  • the only one subjective here is u ----you think using certain words and a certain arrogance in answering will make u look smarter and seem right - but no -like i said - i read people like a book - be straightforward - no fakeness necessary!

  • You keep insisting on criticizing my arguments and telling me how I think and feel is not acceptable and is "fakeness" as you put it. Why don't you try an objective arguement instead? I must have backed you into a corner here.

  • and besides u say women end up "devaluing" themselves....how about men? what do they end up doing? they are allowed to get away with sleeping with many women at a time, they are players and pimps and people accept that - so are they devaluing themselves too? or do u believe its ok for them simply cause they possess a penis? and what are u talking about with africa and stuff just stay on one topic---and stop blaming fem. for male problems - thats why u possess a brain- in order to use it!

  • I speak of rape because it is a very important issue to understand. My point is that it is directly correlated to unequal distribution of wealth, political and economic instability, war, and poverty.

    Rape takes place in the animal kingdom as well and it is important to understand rape as a process in nature and what factors lead to it.

    When controlling for these factors forceful or pathological violent rapes are exceedingly rare In the U.S. these types of rape are 2% of all cases.

  • and?? what does that have to do with our debate right now? thank u for letting us know but its really not relative.......

  • I'm confused, define what you mean by 'rape'

    'Rape' is forced sex, so surley it has to be violent to be considered rape, or are you referring to sex that is not realy rape but is called rape by the woman in question wrongly?

  • You say: Rape is forced sex

    WRONG, the vast majority of rape in the U.S. is any act of sex that a woman regrets while under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If one or both parties are under the influence and have sex that a woman regrets this is called "date rape" By law it is the man's responsibility to maintain control and responsibility.

    Pathological violent and forceful rape is rare Most all men can not get an erection from attacking and hurting a woman This type is 2% of all rape

  • So "forced rape" and violent rape is actually an abnormal pathology that affects the vast minority of men.

    There are instances where drugs have been administered to women without them knowing- This is rape. BUT by law any act of sex with a woman while she is under the influence is considered rape. Drunken or drug induced mutual sex is considered rape. By law a man must be in control and be responsible and a woman does not have this responsibility.

  • Bullllshitt. That makes no fucking sence. If she choses to take drugs and alcohol, then as far as i'm concerened it aint rape.

    God bless America lol

  • Amen Brother, fuck those feminists!

  • no - u got it wrong mystery - feminists fuck men ---u do no fucking

  • They fuck lesbians

  • who fucks lesbians??

  • Feminists

  • I will tell you though, baby cakes, that 25% women have murdered their own child via abortion.

    But less than .002% of men are convicted rapists in America, srry to ruin your fun down at the future cat lady androgyny parade called feminsim. I mean it is a good recruitment tool for STD infested future girl swapping feminists.

    But get your facts straight sweetie. There are 15,000 men convicted per year of rape. Out of 110,000 accusations. And 85% of those are "she" said convictions, no evidence

  • And we all know of those 15,000 male convictions of rape. That women never lie. Then are "never" gold diggers. They "always" tell the truth.

    Now do you think, darling, that Feminist Jurisprudence is legit? Do you really think that is good to view the law through a woman's eyes? Where a woman can lie to the court, and expect to be believed simply because she is a girl, and doesn't know anything as a victim?

    Grow up ladies, we are watching you. Speak the truth, grow up.

  • Neither do you fatty. Wannabee slut.

  • 1) nobody said fuck you to men. Men are our friends and allies.

    2) We can't see your face nor do we know your name (you do have beautiful arm hair though). we know who jessica is, she doesn't hide her face.

    3) you start your argument with a lot of assumptions on what human beings are about. Assumptions that are incorrect (i.e. are BS). Examine your assumptions.

    4) If I were Jessica I would not get into a "dialog" with you. I don't think the conversation is going to be worth anyone's time.

  • Men have more to lose if somebody saw our videos. Unlike women, men have public opinion to face if we go against the androgyny of feminsim. Unless we are financially secure, and financially independent, we don't need to show our face.

    Do you think we want to deal with the wastes of humanity called human resources department?

  • 1.) Feministing(including and especially Jessica) says fuck you to many things, and men are a primary target. Maybe not ALL men, but definately not none.

    2.) Red has a right to hide his face if he so chooses to. Just because Jessica shows off who she is doesn't matter. She can do it because she supports feminism, and is backed up by them. Red clearly doesn't side with them, and if he gave his face and name it'd be all too easy for them to harm him given gender bias today.

  • 3.) I find his points about natural biology quite true. Many cases in the natural world are the men fighting for what they want and/or need to live and/or impress a mate, and women choosing the mate that seems to ensure protection and bountiful providing. Humans really aren't that different.

    4) Genders would NEVER exist in the natural world if they weren't needed.

    5.) The only reason a conversation wouldn't be worth "anyone's" time would be because it doesn't stroke the feminist ego -tbc-

  • -continued-

    and would disagree with feminists. What's the harm with a little disagreement? If feminist view points are so correct, then disagreement should be no problem.

    6.) It's unfair to ignore one gender's side(males' most commonly today) in gender issues, and it's especially unfair to let one gender group alone(feminism today) decide what's fair to both. Doing so allows biased ideas for one side to be created.

  • 7.) Feministing made a "fuck you" video to the US Army about that woman that went into the front lines as a medic in the Middle East. While I agree that she was brave for what she did, I don't find the fuck you video in line. If you want to say that the policies are sexist, you have to say ALL, and I mean every single, policy is. Also, if you want to fix a sexist policy, you must fix them ALL. If you want women to have equal representation in the army, then they have be equal in representation.

  • *to be

    as in, they must sign up for the draft as well. If that's too hard for women to do, then men shouldn't be forced to serve the military, either.

  • "as in, they must sign up for the draft as well. If that's too hard for women to do, then men shouldn't be forced to serve the military, either." - this was a law (stupidly) made by men! what do women have to do with it? if u dont want to be in war then gather up and tell the prez! dont complain to feminists about women! and even if we are not drafted a lot of women STILL go into war -so dont be stupid and so egotistical -u guys are holding onto ur fuckups and blaming it on us and its ridiculous

  • Thats the LAMEST excuse I have ever heard "Well we don't like war and men decided we should do it". I think thats a double standard when women wanted us to fight and defend our country like we should anyways. Women can be in the military but can't be drafted? Sexist shit.

  • what are u talking about when did i say this:"Well we don't like war and men decided we should do it"

  • and again women choose to be in the military even though they are not drafted is what i said - dont try to switch my words to make it sound like ur right!

    ur argument is baseless since u just switched everything i said in order to sound credible so what is ur point?

  • Look, if you are going to fight for equality, women need to be drafted too. I could give a damn less if women were excluded from the military or not but if women are willing and able to be in the military, then they should be able to be drafted, plain and simple.

  • lol u see how u completely ignored what i said and went back 2 ur original argument! HYPOCRITE!