like any other press it mainly targets the anterior delts but this variation also targets the lateral delts and posterior delts to a lesser extent and depending on how low you go you might also engage the upper traps
@Nippon1971 Yes. Look up Don Howarth,"Mr. Delts," as they call him known for th barnyard shoulders. he did 8 sets of 6 reps behind the neck shoulder presses. You'd be amazed at them.
This is an exercise that places the shoulder joint into the dislocation position and the range of motion puts unnecessary stress on the rotator cuff tendons of the shoulders. avoid these.
Use the Smitch Machine, DO NOT USE the straight barbell until you are a PRO... My friend used to lift for 10 years, He couldnt do his last rep and had no spot, what happened ? Drop the thing from back and almost hit his leg
@l1998 I found your problem. He was doing it without a spotter. Put more weight than you can handle on the bar and it will always be dangerous. Not a fan of smith machines. They have an unnatural ROM and they make you go in that ROM.
I've started doing these (alternating workouts with military presses) and my delts have been increasing in size and definition. Like he states, come down only until your elbows are parallel to the floor (90 degrees) and use a light-moderate weight - I use about 75% of the weight on PBN compared to Military Presses.
behind the neck presses are fine its idiots who immediately go to heavy with it that get fucked up, like i can do about 200 with a normal shoulder press, but behind the neck i go down to about 75lbs and it works my shoulders better then that normal one, because less weight is moved by your triceps, people who get injured think just because they can do a lot with a shoulder press they can do a lot behind the neck, then they get fucked
Actually this is textbook behind the neck barbell press form. I have been doing them for 25 years without injury. I am 44 years old and last week did 225lbs for 15 reps. Do them to arms 90 degrees just like this video showas going further will strain the shoulder capsule too much. What is it with you fuckin' candyasses out there who get injured doing them this way? If you got injured it's cuz' you are weak in that position so go lighter! To the back is way harder than to the front.
I also agree that behind the neck is unnecessary. But if you were to have "perfect" range of motion in the rotator cuffs. Would behind the neck presses/pull ups hurt you?
They will not hurt you. Been doing them for almost three decades with no problem. This movement used be used by all the old school lifters. Most guys are weaker in this movement and can press way more by going to the front ( You can utilize your front delts and it's physically an easier way to do them). But I prefer doing the more difficult behind the neck press. Only lower your arms to 90 degrees. Go light until you get stronger in this position.
I question this guy's credentials as a physiologist. NEVER DO A BEHIND THE NECK WORKOUT! I just got out of shoulder surgery and this is a movement that will quickly have you victims of the same surgery i went through! All certified trainers and physical therapist will slap this guy for showing this video.
I agree, behind the neck presses and behind the neck pulldowns and behind the neck pullups all place too much stress on the rotator cuff...always do these to the front.
i think he needs to lower the weight.......maybe a lighter bar!!!!!.
expert village is shit and is for pussies like this pussy demonstrating!!
their videos are so SUSPECT.....people don't watch them...they have dodgy fools like HIM on who think they know it but no jackshit....even I know a little more than these arseholes!!!!
who the fuck rated this as 5 stars.....my fuckin ARSE it is!!!!!
Never say never! Some folk can climb Everest, some folk are a liability when they cross the road! Many of the best strength coaches in the world promote this exercise, Ian King and Charles Poliquin come to mind, and many progressive Physiotherpists/physical therapists (whatever you want to call them) use it as a means of assessing the integrity of the shoulder girdle as well as programming it. However, if you look like the "piltdown man" and are chronically hump backed of course it's a no go!
never lift behind the head, and never go deeper than 90º. You can see how badly the behind the head movement would strain the shoulders (making the lower back support the weight)even with no plates on the bar.
like any other press it mainly targets the anterior delts but this variation also targets the lateral delts and posterior delts to a lesser extent and depending on how low you go you might also engage the upper traps
debunker1905 3 months ago
does it targets more the side delts or the front ?
Nippon1971 9 months ago
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debunker1905 3 months ago
@Nippon1971 Yes. Look up Don Howarth,"Mr. Delts," as they call him known for th barnyard shoulders. he did 8 sets of 6 reps behind the neck shoulder presses. You'd be amazed at them.
dinamiaesthetics 2 months ago
This is an exercise that places the shoulder joint into the dislocation position and the range of motion puts unnecessary stress on the rotator cuff tendons of the shoulders. avoid these.
Fjerid 11 months ago
Guys One important FUCKING THING !!!!!
Use the Smitch Machine, DO NOT USE the straight barbell until you are a PRO... My friend used to lift for 10 years, He couldnt do his last rep and had no spot, what happened ? Drop the thing from back and almost hit his leg
l1998 1 year ago
@l1998 I found your problem. He was doing it without a spotter. Put more weight than you can handle on the bar and it will always be dangerous. Not a fan of smith machines. They have an unnatural ROM and they make you go in that ROM.
chevelle1258 6 months ago
jesus christ, 30 second advert for a 90 second advert. This is ridiculous.
tvdownloads 1 year ago 2
Another good video.
I've started doing these (alternating workouts with military presses) and my delts have been increasing in size and definition. Like he states, come down only until your elbows are parallel to the floor (90 degrees) and use a light-moderate weight - I use about 75% of the weight on PBN compared to Military Presses.
classicgamer1968 1 year ago
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seattle0002 1 year ago
behind the neck presses are fine its idiots who immediately go to heavy with it that get fucked up, like i can do about 200 with a normal shoulder press, but behind the neck i go down to about 75lbs and it works my shoulders better then that normal one, because less weight is moved by your triceps, people who get injured think just because they can do a lot with a shoulder press they can do a lot behind the neck, then they get fucked
therealdestructicus 1 year ago 5
@therealdestructicus true dat jank in da hood.....
JohnLennonKillerMan 1 year ago
Actually this is textbook behind the neck barbell press form. I have been doing them for 25 years without injury. I am 44 years old and last week did 225lbs for 15 reps. Do them to arms 90 degrees just like this video showas going further will strain the shoulder capsule too much. What is it with you fuckin' candyasses out there who get injured doing them this way? If you got injured it's cuz' you are weak in that position so go lighter! To the back is way harder than to the front.
grantjames333 2 years ago 11
I also agree that behind the neck is unnecessary. But if you were to have "perfect" range of motion in the rotator cuffs. Would behind the neck presses/pull ups hurt you?
LaxorSharkLikeFlaw 2 years ago
They will not hurt you. Been doing them for almost three decades with no problem. This movement used be used by all the old school lifters. Most guys are weaker in this movement and can press way more by going to the front ( You can utilize your front delts and it's physically an easier way to do them). But I prefer doing the more difficult behind the neck press. Only lower your arms to 90 degrees. Go light until you get stronger in this position.
grantjames333 2 years ago
expertvillage folks ain't experts
joshuab1815 2 years ago
lol :21
xxapplesaucexx 2 years ago
Just do it in front of your head. Why bother fucking up your neck when you can gain the same muscles without the behind the neck routine.
somechristianchic 2 years ago
SKINY GUY...
achilleasEL 2 years ago
1:12 hypocrit, bad grip to lol.
6reevesy9 2 years ago
I question this guy's credentials as a physiologist. NEVER DO A BEHIND THE NECK WORKOUT! I just got out of shoulder surgery and this is a movement that will quickly have you victims of the same surgery i went through! All certified trainers and physical therapist will slap this guy for showing this video.
ayoubs85 3 years ago
I agree, behind the neck presses and behind the neck pulldowns and behind the neck pullups all place too much stress on the rotator cuff...always do these to the front.
moorigs 2 years ago
i think he needs to lower the weight.......maybe a lighter bar!!!!!.
expert village is shit and is for pussies like this pussy demonstrating!!
their videos are so SUSPECT.....people don't watch them...they have dodgy fools like HIM on who think they know it but no jackshit....even I know a little more than these arseholes!!!!
who the fuck rated this as 5 stars.....my fuckin ARSE it is!!!!!
zulu2829 3 years ago
Never say never! Some folk can climb Everest, some folk are a liability when they cross the road! Many of the best strength coaches in the world promote this exercise, Ian King and Charles Poliquin come to mind, and many progressive Physiotherpists/physical therapists (whatever you want to call them) use it as a means of assessing the integrity of the shoulder girdle as well as programming it. However, if you look like the "piltdown man" and are chronically hump backed of course it's a no go!
tyrant1505 3 years ago
this bloke is a fuckin dooshbag
billabongboy9 4 years ago
wtf is this ? Front middle and rear?? Its Front ,side and rear ,wtf is middle? and this exercise isnt right ,never do it..
kaaud 4 years ago
What's it mean to "pyramid"?
baybuy14 4 years ago
A pyramid is, When you do 10 reps then 8 reps then 6 reps then 4 reps then 2 reps. Then break. Then start over. 10 reps, 8 reps, etc.
jrboult 3 years ago
never lift behind the head, and never go deeper than 90º. You can see how badly the behind the head movement would strain the shoulders (making the lower back support the weight)even with no plates on the bar.
ciroalb3 4 years ago
1) Using suicide grip.
2) Never lift behind your head. Missed that issue of Flex magazine?
3) Never sit down and lift unless you're pushing your back into the seat. All the stress is channeled into the lower back.
4) use full ROM.
5) Dont quit your day job.
KaseyAkira 4 years ago
I always go all the way down
sithtomb 4 years ago