Rosetta And OSIRIS - Mission To Catch A Comet

[michaelpousti]

that's interesting video

[pavel104kl]

tak to vidite cas utika a ma take svuj cas,nikdo tuto planetu jeste nezabezpecil a uz je to tady vyspeli na to aby konecne ceco sestrojily bohuzel nekteri nemaji zajem a radeji valci proti lidem to musi skoncit muzeme jednou bojovat take proti necemu jinemu a to nas teprve ceka,proc lide nepostavy konecne budoucnost je rok 2010 a do roku 2012 mate malo casu proc nikdo nepostavy kosmicke lode,proc nekdo nesestroji roboty na ochranu planety pred skazou z kosmu.zacnete cas utika.

[rjhrjh3]

Do I detect a hint of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy in the video?

[erichathy222]

just ask obama to catch it

[bulbinking]

Just one question...

HOW THE HELL DOES THIS HELP HUMANITY IN ANY WAY AT THIS CURRENT POINT IN TIME OR THE NEAR FUTURE!?!?!?

If somebody can explain to me the real world benefits such experimentation can be accounted for then I will stop believing much of NASA's current research is science for the sake of science that is wasting billions of dollars which could be used on testing new sources of energy or helping increase human life/health.

[NeedsEvidence]

The drive to acquire knowledge is a basic human trait. The world always benefited from fundamental research and its spin-offs.

Dr. Roentgen was experimenting with cathode rays just for curiosity and didn't plan to discover X-rays. Many cutting-edge experiments produce spin-offs from which society directly benefits: The world wide web and medical therapies (from particle physics), digital cameras (satellites), to name a few.

bulbinking, your entire life is penetrated by those benefits.

[bulbinking]

And what, pray tell, would be "accidentally" discovered from observing an ordinary comet in the middle of nowhere up close? My point is there are far more pressing matters that we should be applying the scientific budget on, and taking photos of an rock in space isn't one of them.

inb4 don't talk shit about NASA

[NeedsEvidence]

Cassini and Rosetta help us to understand the origin of our solar system, to help us answering the question: "Where do we come from?" I don't know about you, but many of us feel it is a fascinating question.

E.g., asteroids are direct fingerprints of the early stages of our system which can reveal a lot of secrets regarding the abundance and composition of elements which formed the earth.

The mission is comparatively cheap, given the waste of money in other areas of society and economy.

[bulbinking]

Sure it is interesting and all, and helps us to better understand the universe a bit more, but it is still science for the sake of science. Do you understand what the phrase "science for the sake of science" defines about scientific practices?

[NeedsEvidence]

Fundamental research "for the sake of science" created practical spin-offs we didn't expect, for example particle physics and the world-wide-web. Same applies for satellites (e.g. digital camera)

Why is fundamental science on top of your cutting list? Why not e.g. reducing administrative health care costs or the military budget (the cost of one aircraft carrier is equivalent to 100 satellite missions like Rosetta.)

Get the priorities right and don't attack what you don't understand.

[bulbinking]

When did I say I wasnt for reducing those other areas of wasteful or illogical cost? And while there have been many important discoveries found completely by accident while researching unrelated matters, is that to suggest a more direct line of research would not have found those conclusions much faster or more thoroughly defined the data then simply stumbling onto it all be chance? If we want to advance the human race as quickly as possible then we should direct all efforts to do precisely that

[NeedsEvidence]

That's exactly what you don't seem to understand. There is no "direct line" which yields to "much faster" conclusions. That's not how research works and how great discovery were made.

[empbac]

What "direct line" do you have in mind? Research is the way to go. Progress is made in education. If "science for the sake of science" is inappropriate, what SHOULD be the goal of science? This is where your argument starts breaking down. If research isn't for the point of furthering our knowledge of what is real... then it isn't science. You can't go into it with biases. You never know what you'll learn in the end. That's how "progress" happens. Questioning. Examining. Experimenting. Science.

[hellsspike]

to "bulbinking" :

well how the fuck does having 10 mcdonalds in every american city help humanity, your arguments are so stupid they make me sick , and as far as wasting billions of dollars, shut the fuck up , the united states waste trillions on failed military ventures, humanity cant live on earth forever and this is only the beginning of space exploration, in the mean time ask yourself how YOU have helped humanity becuase it seems all you can do is talk bullshit you fucking retard

[bulbinking]

Instead of wasting our budget on looking at space rocks or counting stars we should be using the money into research we know for certain will be fruitful for modern society. Such as aids research, stem cell research, energy research, research into breaking down nuclear materials, technological research based on robotics and nanomachines, bioengineering research on how to increase agricultural efficiency, ect ect ect...

[zenmastermtl]

Our place on the Earth is fragile at best. We need to be able to expand into space and onto other planets if we want to ensure our continued survival as a species. In fact, we should be counting ourselves lucky that we have even survived this long, to have be able to produce as much as we did. If a comet were ever to hit us, or if cosmic winds were to remove our atmosphere, we would be toast.

All our eggs are in one basket and it would be smart to look for another one, just in case.

[bulbinking]

I agree with any research based on space colonization, but the experiment explained in this video is clearly not related at all. I am also supportive of astrological debris preventive measures against earth, and tracking the trajectory of our near earth astral neighbors..and again, whats depicted in this video is clearly not related to any of that.

[lostintimeBC]

@bulbinking you make a valid point but if you take a second look its the miitary research that is key

factor in the advances that allow you to enjoy

standing on your soapbox.

and if man did not explore the other side of the mountain or sea or space we would still be living as we did 30 thousand years ago

[1PintLasher]

even if there was a super nova close by (within a few hundred light years) we would be blasted by gamma radiation and everything would die, and we'd only have a few hundred years to prepare for it too. I agree space exploration is incredibly important for us. and if we're intelligent beings like we assume we are, we will pursue that goal as quickly as possibly. Wars are dumb but we DO need a united planet too. I dunno, i'm divided about war and the way our planet should be headed.

[devourerofbabies]

If you want to talk about a waste of money, don't target space programs. Take a look at the military.

[lostintimeBC]

@devourerofbabies i can you were never in the military or had any family members in same.

we keep you safe to do those stuipd things people like you do. not realizing a price must be paid for you to live as you do.

or if your disenchanted with usa you could move to aa counrty that has no military budget

[hutchings000]

like Canada :)

Although we do have a military budget... hrm..

The military has its place in history, but it will not be in our futures forever, the world is changing, and as with all things, it will pass :)

[Craydon]

@hutchings000 There will always be jerks that want your stuff.

[hutchings000]

True, but in a future society, they could just take it if they want. I'll let them, because money will be non existent, property a lost concept.

Just look at the open source "Revolution" of the internet. Everything is becoming easily accessible for cheap. That mentality will begin to spill over out of the internet, and into the real world. in fact, it has already begun ;)

[Craydon]

@hutchings000 And when the motivation is control?

[hutchings000]

@Craydon, as the need for military becomes less and less, which it is still needed, there will be fewer and fewer instances where such things would then happen.

Ultimately, it would then boil down to individuals and their being affected by environmental stimuli, and personal experiences. I'm talking 100 - 500 years of societal evolution.

[Craydon]

@hutchings000 Less military? Why, because we'll all have personal nukes?

[hutchings000]

@Craydon, Less military because there is more access to clean water, supplies, necessities, technologies, education medicine, and more. The list continues. As human beings are given the resources they need to thrive, they no longer need to build weapons to take things from their neighbors.

It also comes down to a sense of global community. "A shift in consciousness" as it were ;)

Not personal nukes, intelligent social minds, capable of peaceful interaction.

[Craydon]

@hutchings000 I just don't think that's going to happen.

[rhn94]

@hutchings000 nukes will be our future firecrackers ;)

[TheRationalizer]

@hutchings000 War is not only about resources, it is also about ideologies and a personal desire for power.

[chadd990]

no... look at wwII,

Hitler needed more resources (all the resources in the world) so he attempted to kill off every non-pure race.

Civil War: The North wanted more resources so they tried to completely unite all the states together.

Rev. War: England wanted the resources in America, and the colonists wanted it for themselves.

Every religious war: You got me there.

but it depends on how you look at resources. if you simplify it, you wont get it.

[madjimms]

How is going to Iraq protecting the US? We need soldiers HERE not there...

[ViralMessiah]

@devourerofbabies Lostintimebc is exactly right,you think "hey nobody starts shit with us,why the huge ass budget?" and you fail to understand that thats WHY we haven't been invaded yet. stop spending all that money on the military and it won't be 10 years before you're wishing you had the worlds most dominant military again

[hellsspike]

humanity is already doing all of those things you just mentioned, more money wont do anything, there is a finite amount of scientists and engineers who want to develop these technologies,, so it takes time you dip shit, fuck havent you ever seen zeitgeist, aids will never be cured, big pharma makes trillions for the drugs they develop, goddamit how stupid are you, why do you think they came up with a vaccine to swine flu, and thats been around for only 1 year, aids has been around for 40 years

[bulbinking]

When did I say having so many McDonalds was a good thing? Or that all the billions going into military research was good, either? And I never said research on populating space was bad, thats one of the few things NASA is doing thats good for humanity.

I swear its almost as if people don't read and just jump to their own conclusions about others points based on their own biases of people who would disagree with them.

[bshieldsbb01]

But the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are approximately 3270 to 1!!!!

Never tell them the odds, I suppose.

[bigmatt101]

Space Exploration is so insanely awsome, I love this kinda stuff. Imagine what the world's space agencies could discover or uncover if given the proper funding... The visual representaion of the crafts path was great. 155 orbits around saturn in 7 years? Thats insane.

[thedeeliciousplum]

beautifully rendered images of space!!!

[nub50wn]

1:16 i lol'd

[Pirwzwhomper]

I don't like having to make two clicks now to go to my subscriptions compared to just one before. Doesn't sound like much but it's less convenience.

[TheBetterGame]

I hate the new youtube video layout, can anyone tell me how to get it back to the old one? I cant even see this video because the new layout is screwing up so badly!

[NathanWubs]

Nope sorry, this is the way it will be from now.

[bangNL94]

do you have a small monitor resolution? maybe you can turn it higher?

[Nebula1701]

@TheBetterGame

see the button that has an arrow pointing to the right and one pointing down... click it. (that will put the vid in its old location)

I really don't see how you're having a problem with the layout though... my laptop is over 3 years old and its resolution isn't that great but it shows everything fine...

you might not be updating your browser or internet software for it regularly.

[TheBetterGame]

@Nebula1701 no, your missing the point. a certain number of youtubers are being forced to "preview" the new youtube. Your obviously not one of them, because you'd been screaming like me.

It sucks, and hardly ever works. Just today they put up a 'feedback' link, so hopefully they hear out cries.

[ronkrukoski]

Good info.

[RandallLord]

The resume for 21 Lutetia, shown at 1:08 is pretty funny.

[absentmindedprof]

When will we send a vehicle to explore the Oort cloud? That would be very interesting!

[Shigren]

that would take forevers! The Nasa space craft mission New Horizons left earth in january of 2006 and it won't reach pluto until april 2015. Pluto is in the Keiper belt which is only a 100th of the distance that will need to be traveled to reach the ort cloud...

the ort cloud is about 1 light year away, which is 1/4th the distance to the nearest star Proxima Centauri

[HardstyleMatt]

Interesting