Skip Bayless Stephan A. Smith on Kevin Durant after A Game Winner

[ianmista619]

My boy durant is BALLIN right now!!!! hes gonna finish with 32000+ points, get atleast 2 MVPs, and Hes gonna outplay da Bulls n Heat this decade and get atleat 2 rings. When its all said and done he will be a top ten player of all time and one of the greatest shooters of ALL TIME! The only thing that will stop him from ballin is a serious injury and Westbrook

[atheistasylum]

I miss big legged Dana.

[Verrsus]

The starting five in OKC is on average 23 years old! Westbrooks, Hardens, Durants and Ibakas best years are still ahead of them!

If they could get a pure rebounder on the center position they could dominate the next decade!

[dearshomy]

@Verrsus that's a team to fear.

[BigManDogg]

'hes just Money' hahahahahahahaha

[WOWZOWCOW]

51 points!

[babroncos11]

So disrespectful to kobe bryant...he scored 81

[psychomajoreflex]

@babroncos11 you are disrespecting the other greats by stating that, you idiot kobe fan

[babroncos11]

@psychomajoreflex How is that disrespectful? Kobe has the most complete offensive game of all time just like Lebron is the most freakish athlete of all time.

[psychomajoreflex]

@babroncos11 Just because kobe scored 81 does NOT make him a complete all around player

[babroncos11]

@psychomajoreflex Thats true. What makes him a complete player is the fact that he's a complete player. Anyone who claims Kobe isn't a complete player does not know basketball. You can not win this argument because you are clearly wrong.

[psychomajoreflex]

@babroncos11 umm...lets see, kobe's defense is overrated, he takes too many tough shots. despite having many arsenals in his repetoire, he is inconsistent with them, hence the FG% is relatively low. a shooter who shoots 27 threes can score 81 points, or by 81 FT's, does that make him a complete all around player? NO, the one who states that makes himself/herself a fool does that make sense?

[j4lydonut]

@psychomajoreflex lmaoo sigh...kobe's defense has been proven through many blocks, steals, and many 1st all nba defense teams. how can you just say his defense is overrated.....and justify it with his shooting?...wtf? Kobe's regarded as the most complete player CURRENTLY because he's a threat on both ends of the court and is a reliable star player who has had a lot of success with 5 rings. so yes...he's complete. where is the evidence that he is not? seriously, can you show me?

[j4lydonut]

@psychomajoreflex kobe's not the best shooter, nor the best defender, but he is definitely great and capable at both. Yes kobe's FG% is 46%...but he's also had the 2nd best shooting performance in NBA history with the 81 pt game. Numerous 40pt and 60pt games. He's also clutch, makes game winners all the time. With 46%, he's not the best shooter, but no one who loves the game is going to say kobe can't shoot. He can shoot, defend, and lead his team to victory. that's why he's complete..

[psychomajoreflex]

@j4lydonut lets put it this way, he IS a complete all around player...no doubt. I WILL agree with you on that. however, what i am REALLY trying to say is that he is NOT an efficient player, or consistent. if you take a look at all the top ten greats from the past, you know that they do ball with efficiency and consistency. he does have the ability to pull team to great wins, yet he does have the ability to lose badly. rings are a TEAM achievement, he is only the leader of two.

[nandotime3000]

Not a better scorer than Dennis Rodman! :)

[Bratsofallages]

mj's first 4 years vs durants

mj: 28.2ppg kd: 20.3ppg

mj: 22.7ppg kd: 25.3ppg

mj: 37.1ppg kd: 30.1ppg

mj: 35.0ppg kd: 27.7ppg

jordan is the better scorer durant is a better shooter

[mcmluk]

@Bratsofallages

i know those stats say that MJ is a better scorer, but note that stephen A smith said. IF kevin durant puts on weight, THEN he'll be a better scorer. Dont get me wrong, MJ will always be the greatest player in NBA history, but so far, kevin durant has been skinny his entire career. If durant had the physique of say Lebron, he would score MUCH more, he could score 40 a game...EASY.

but yeah, MJ is still the best overall.

[Bratsofallages]

@mcmluk thats a fair argument but people get compared to mj far to often for example kobe isnt nearly as good as mj but people argue about it all the time aswell as the lebron comparisons its disrespectful to mj in my opinion

[2468raa]

@Bratsofallages aight but westbrook ball hogs

[jaydoug11]

@Bratsofallages 37 and 35...man jordan was an animal!

[Bratsofallages]

@jaydoug11 your right and yet some people think kobe is better than mj??????

[HubieBrown2ndPerson]

If this boy gains like 15 pounds he could be a absolute beast in the post and improve his rebounding. He actually could get alot better which is down-right scary. They mentioned Adrian Dantley to start off the show which was nice for the many young people that don't know, BUT, Dantley's game today would be totally obsolete. Guy was a 6'4" post player who was unathletic, played no defense and had one leg longer than the other

[LegendaryCeltics25]

2 words, Wilt Chamberlain. And they are saying that Durant is the best scorer, not shooter, and so yes I repeat Wilt Chamberlain.

[KB24overLJ23]

when KD gets 81 points then we'll talk.

when he gets 12 3's in one game we'll talk.

when he scores 4 consecutive 50+ point games we'll talk.

when he can averages 35+ points in a year we will talk.

the day he begins to play without a conscientious i'll open the discussion but for now Kobe is the best scorer.

[Dam0ndash9]

@KB24overLJ23 LOL apparently what was discussed in the video went straight over your head, no one said he was the best scorer "Right Now."

[dubreil07]

@KB24overLJ23 you dont know anything about basketball, in fact it seems like your better at sucking dick. picking out individual games to prove kobe a better scorer how stupid. i guess we should ignore the awards durant has recieved for his shooting over kobe in the past 2 years huh. NEXT.

[micahdennis3]

before anyone else tries to kill stephen a for his comments. . . i also agree with him. overall player MJ hands down. but scorer KD. this is a real discussion. please i beg you to watch him this year and see what he does.

[justinrocksit2]

there out of there damn mind thinking Durant a better scorer than Jordan. Stephan you on crack

[y2shuproblem]

I dunno, KD did have a bigger range than both Jordan and Kobe when they all started respectively. Besides, KD's only in his 4th season. Even Stephen A. Smith specifically stated that KD may be THE better scorer, but he will never be a better player than Jordan.

[cedthecool]

I think I would give Durant a legitimate 6'11

[SerlingPictures]

Durant is a 2 time scoring champ and youngest in NBA history. That's in the company of Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Shaq... need I say more? Smith isn't THAT far off.

[MyCockIsNotForYou]

@SerlingPictures thats a fucking joke to put Durant close to those names LOL

[SerlingPictures]

@MyCockIsNotForYou i didn't do it, sir. numbers don't lie. youngest scoring champ in NBA history. Durant is the best player in the game. he takes a team with no superstars and makes them progressively better. They went from having 20 wins, to a first round playoff team, to a western conference finals playoff team. They WILL win the championship this year.

[MyCockIsNotForYou]

@SerlingPictures Hes not better than Kobe or lebron....dude theyre both scoring better than him, and have higher assists and rebound numbers...also they both play DEFENSE which is something durant cant even spell, so Durant isnt the best in the NBA...and no super stars? Westbrook is a superstar, and the Thunder got good when both Westbrook and durant became great players, not just KD..and Jordan was putting up 37 PPG in his 3rd year, so good luck to durant trying to match that

[SerlingPictures]

@MyCockIsNotForYou keep in mind durant has been in the nba going on 5 years. in my opinion, right now, he is better than anyone offensively. if you want to start talking defense, lebron doesn't know how to spell defense either. don't make me pull out his 4th quarter performances. if you wanna talk legacy, kobe is the best. durant has just accomplished so much and has gotten so good in such short time. westbrook got better when he played with durant btw he wasn't always a baller

[SerlingPictures]

@MyCockIsNotForYou Durant averages the same amount of steals as Lebrick, kobe has half their amount. Durant triples kobe's assists per game. Lebron has a high assist number because he practically plays pg. Durant and Lebron average the same amount of rebounds as well. Kobe averages less. Durant averaged 30ppg his third year. In the playoffs last year: durant 28ppg, kobe 22ppg, lebron 23ppg. I'm not saying durant is better than jordan, but he IS youngest scoring champ ever. face it.

[MyCockIsNotForYou]

@SerlingPictures defense isnt just about steals ...lebron and kobe are elite man to man defenders and durant cant spell that shit...and Kobe averages 6 assists, lebron averaged almost 8, and durant only 3...and in lebrons third year he averaged 31 PPG, and kobe didnt play alot of minutes his first few years so you cant blame him...and it doesnt matter if hes the youngest scoring champion, hes not the best player in the NBA, and he will never be a better scorer than jordan

[SerlingPictures]

@MyCockIsNotForYou from my perspective, defense can only be measured by blocks and steals. Also, durant hasn't been playing as long as james or bryant. I think its hard for you to admit that durance's numbers in his 5 short years are better than lebrons and kobes. I think Kobe and Lebron are both phenomenal, but NUMBERS DONT LIE DUDE.

[MyCockIsNotForYou]

@SerlingPictures lol just look up the stats for lebrons first five years then compare it to durants...its not even close lebron wins...but Durant could become the best player in a few years, i just dont think he is right now better than lebron or kobe...just my opinion

[SerlingPictures]

@MyCockIsNotForYou Actually they are very close and Durant beats him in a few seasons. Lebron: 2003-2004 (20.9ppg) 2004-2005 (27.2) 2005-2006(31.3) 2006-2007(27.3) 2007-2008(28.4)

Durant:2007-2008(20.3) 2008-2009(25.3) 2009-2010(30.1) 2010-2011(27.7) 2011-2012(26.1)

For their career Lebron averages 27.7ppg and Durant averages 25.9.

I wouldn't say its a total blowout.

[KobeBryantROXz]

4th staright 30+ game great! Kobe did it too. Kobe has 4 staright 40+ games DAMN! r u kddin me. Kobe must have watched this show thnking im gonna prove em wrong. Iøm the number 1 scorer in the league

[EpicGwar]

Best player in the nba right now hands down

[sthao1]

Better scorer than Jordan? What! WHAT?! This is... Egregious! Unconstitutional! Absurd! Ludicrous! Ridiculous!

[MrHellothisisme]

@sthao1 You forgot BLASFEMOUS! :D

But they made their point in the end: Durant may be a better scorer, but Michael will always be the better player. If you ask Durant to win a ball game, he'll put up 40, but you're not sure if you'll win. If you asked Michael to win a ball game, he would put up 35, but he would dominate on defense and would do all the other things. Durant doesn't do that... Yet ;) but he is something special, no doubt!

[JuaronTheMan]

@sthao1 Assanine, Assaten, assaeleven, assatwelve lol

[peco017]

actually you know what. when seattle drafted him, people said he would suck cause he was skinny, now he's an allstar. he doesnt need weight thats his play style

[MrTyrese112]

Aldridge

[MrTyrese112]

Jordan, kareem, wilt etc... Wouldve scored alot easier in todays nba caz its not as physical an the older player r alot more skilled so the fact that this era has alot of good athletes means nothin. Thats y kobe runs circles around 90% of the league. Howard is suppose to b the best big man in the league an he still hasnt even averaged 24 points in a season. All the great bigs of the past averaged more than 25ppg more than once in there career. Also aldrige is the best big man in the game

[MrTyrese112]

His body wont break down as quick as durant he could play till hes 40 same wit kobe

[MrTyrese112]

Hes beein stupid caz theres no way durant can even catch karl malone let alone pass kareem. I dont even lik lebron but if any1 can even think about beein the all time leadin scorer is lebron caz he came out of high school jus lik kobe but the difference between the 2 is lebron flew out the gates scorin while it took kobe till his 3rd yr to average 20ppg. An caz of durants body chemistry he'll never fill out his body properly so i dont even think he'll play more than 17 yrs while lebrons a truck

[Foreverchamp87]

Durant never score 50 in any game ever jordan hit 50 30+ times kobe 20+ so saying durant is the greatest scorer ever is a joke durant isnt even as good as tmac in his prime as a scorer plus tmac in his prime could hit 60 , kobe once had 61 in 3 quarters and the other team had 60 he would have out score a team if he didnt sit out the 4...enough said!!!

[lolsmachine]

@Foreverchamp87 There's a time difference between when Jordan was playing and Durant playing, rules have changed and Kevin Durant is only 23 years old. Michael scored most of those 50+ games when he was in his late 20s and after. No one in the league can compare to Durant at this moment. And this is if KEVIN PUTS ON WEIGHT/MUSCLE, they're not saying he can be the greatest scorer of all time at this point of his life.

[AXAGUS]

Kevin Durant is a beast MvP this year for sure

[Swarms89]

He doesn't have a post move...

[wuatchout27]

KD doesnt need to gain a lot more weight, his body composition is actually perfectly matched with his A-Game. He doesn't look strong but just cuz he's so tall. He CAN drive to the basket and finish like Ginobili does all the time and also Parker is one of the players who score most points in the paint.

[wuatchout27]

ok so if you take wilt out of this convo, then what about MJ (or kareem)? even lebron? if lebron didn't have wade/bosh and play less of a PG, he could score more as well...we only talk about scoring right? both lbj and KD can score at will actually.

[wozzers2]

@wuatchout27 KD can be the best scorer ever his scoring package is unrivalled once he puts n the pounds he does everything but bang with the big boysand if he puts on 20 or30 pounds he will be able to he is a legitamate 6'9'' im 6 foot 3 in terms of shooting da only big man that comes close to his range is dirk and dirk honed his lets see how great KD shooting is at 27 but then u look at durants handle which allows him to create shots if he has to the guys socring package is great

[BigSAK88]

nobody has made tougher shots in the course of their career than kobe bryant...

[tahafs]

greatest scorer ever??? what the fuck???have these dudes never heard of wilt chamberlain who avg 50 a season!!!

[wozzers2]

@tahafs dude be serious can wilt j from the point line can wilt shoot free throws they are absolutely correct his scoring package is just ridiculous s he can shoot it over anyone he can j and if you gonna hack him hes hitting 9 out 0f 10 free throws okay he doesn't have a wilt style inside game but that is what they are talking about with the weight gain if he puts on weight he can bang with the big guys and still do everything he does to score .... im very upset boston didn't get him

[tahafs]

@wozzers2 wilt avg 50 points a season will durant EVER do that??? wilt SCORED 100 points a game...willl durant ever get close to that??? will he score 80 a game ..hell will he score 70 a game? enough said

[spennyclan1st]

@tahafs you are a complete idiot. you cant compare Wilt to modern day NBA players, wilt played in the 60s when everyone had poor skills, if he played now he wouldnt of been anywhere near as dominant in terms of scoring as he was in the 60s, probably more like a Dwight howard but not as athletic, Wilt isnt even in the top 5 greatest scorers in history, when comparing scoring abilities you have to take into account the era in which the specific player played in.

[wozzers2]

@tahafs i think spenny has answered that question for you different eras i think if shaq had kareems will to win he would of been great he is better than wilt in my opinion i don't think wilt would of dominanted with guys of a yester-years the centers now can't really ball only a few stand out (dwight howard) i think the 4s and 3s of this day an age are pretty spectacular compared to past players they are heavier and quicker and more agile than the athletes of before

[tahafs]

@wozzers2 wilt had numerous battles against bill russell kareem willis reed etc...which center would stop him today...you think howard can stop him? as for the rest he would have chewed them up...hed put up the same numbers today as he did in the 60s and 70s...wilt against hall of fame centers was the king of rebounds points blocked shots and he even led the league in assists one year...end of discussious shaq cant come close to that

[wozzers2]

@tahafs i don't think he would of, you have to remember when shaq was feeling good and was motivated to win he averaged close to 30 and 14, that been said i still think he would of man handled kareem or even wilt i say this all the time if shaq had kareems will to win and was less bothered about being the funny man this discussion wouldn't even be occuring he'd be considered the best center to play by many.

[tahafs]

@wozzers2 the topic started on whose the best scorer...the person whose opinion reigns supreme when you want to talk about wilts era vs jordans era is kareem...he played with and against oscar and wilt and he played with and against magic and michael (plus most of the centers young shaq had to battle ewing hakeem parish etc)...kareem said without question wilt is the best scorer ever not michael not shaq and definatly not durant

[Amar283]

@tahafs Wilt played in a different era. That was like 40-45 years ago. With the technology, the science, nutrition/medicine available to players today and with how many good athletes there are in today's generation, you can't compare Wilt and Durant. You'd be assuming that Wilt would score 50+ a night against today's players and that Durant wouldn't score 50+ against dudes from 45 years ago.

By the way, we're talking about a guy who just turned 23 and already has won 2 scoring titles.

[tahafs]

@Amar283 would jordan struggle against todays players? listen to what kareem says...hes played in both eras ...if you wanna say that jordan would struggle against todays superior athelete than thats another matter...but kareem played against jordan and wilt and he said wilts the best scorer and would have dominated in todays game

[MrNgnga]

Durant gonna put on weight as he gets older anyway. Only life can slow him down

[MrFernuti]

picking KD over Lebron any day.

[chefawkes]

"Oh look, Skip and Steve are gonna talk about Durant's game winner. This should be good. Hope they don't go overboard with it tho."

debate topic: Can Durant be greatest scorer of all time

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