You know, it's pretty funny how people laugh at this, but don't know who the people in it are.
Although it was funny at the time, and has a catchy tune (which despite my disagreements, find it funny to watch and listen to), the thoughts behind it really reflect the times and how things have changed. Pretty enlightening, actually.
As soon as the bombs came down on the two Iraqis, i was about to lose faith in this video, but when the stores popped up out of the smoke, it was pretty cool
Yes, that is the president of the US. That is EXACTLY how the president of the Us looks. Do you know ANYTHING about the argueable most famous country ruler on earth?
@Flumong and dude? don't get all pissy cuz he doesn't know who obama is. Seriously? most famous country ruler on Earth? To WHO?! he hasen't even done shit for anyone but himself.. and for some reason gets a free peace award just for being elected.
You know who's famous in other nations? Kennedy. FDR, Wilson, Johnson.. those guys are. Sure they were shit in office but they did things for other nations too.
@MrSexytbone im an airforce man myself, my dad was an airman, and i like your idea, we should put a couple of B-2 spirits on that job and we'll win the war in a week.
i recognize most people in here, but my question is who is int he red suit and the very end and who is in the blue one? i know that colin powell is in the green one, and i know bush and bush sr. seeing as how i was only 7 when bush got elected, i don't remember much of his cabinet.
@KingofComputing i think i figured it out, tell me if i'm correct. the one in the red is tom delay, and the one in the blue is scooter libby. correct?
"HEYYY Sadam, Iraq will have freedom!" That isn't true anymore. We are going to abandon them and they will have a civil war and end up like somalia. Terrorists won't have to hide anymore and we will go right back to where we left off in 2001. America is taking a step backwards the way I see it.
Give me one good reason beside 9/11 to bomb every muslim? We should only bomb terrorists! For gods sakes America if you can't stand something having a different culture then you, then grow the heck up. Honestly it's disgusting to think we live in a nation that's deviated so far from the Constitution, I imagine George Washington, and the rest of the founding fathers are looking at some people in America today shaking their heads and doing a massive facepalm (bleh, that was a terrible analogy >.>)
our forefathers are turning over in their graves for this, yes. i do believe we should take action ffor 9/11, but that does not mean we have to bomb peoplebecause they are different, and you know what, americans are just humans, just like all the rest of you. We arent perfect.
Funny...but in retrospect, its kind of frightening how lightly the prospect of war was taken at the time...but we're all guilty of that, myself included.
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While selsuru may give some good examples, I must say I agree with Vladimir overall. While the US, UN, and NATO still exists, I doubt we will see the age of democracy fall in a very long time. At least I don't hope so. As for corruption of The White House, I'll stick my head in a furnace if I find out he's corrupt. It's laughable.
Thank you Vladimir for your insightful comment. T.S.
we should have just kicked Saddam's ass in the gulf war (of 1990-1991). I mean we kicked his ass in terms of the the casualties but we left it at that.
By your own reasoning wouldn't we be just as much at the mercy of corporations in a dictatorship as in a democracy? As for me, I work for the government as a Teacher so no doubt you'd consider me a drain on the western Imperialist coffers. US Foreign policy leaves something to be desired, I doubt very much that a genocidal dictator of the likes of Hussein would have made more moral decisions in his place. Luckily the most powerful country is one which embraces democratic freedoms. V.
I find it amusing how you monkeys are so quick to claim your petty little nation states are better then the rest even though they are all the exact same with just different flags. Your kind have not seen democracy since ancient Greece, it's not wise to mistake your current system for theirs.
I can understand how my own nation, the UK could be called little but considering the US is one of the largest countries in the world in terms of landmass and is undoubtedly the most superior in military and economic terms I think it's safe to say democracy isn't going anywhere.
As rusty as my history is, I believe that the Ancient Greek form of democracy was confined to male land owners aged over fifty so I see little in common with the current system.
The US is still small by comparison (literally and figuratively ). While the Greeks did restrict voting to male land owners they still let the people decide not create an illusion of such rights.
...same is true in the sense of their democratic nature and the freedoms they espouse. This includes the right to express one's opinion freely, a freedom which incidentally you are currently enjoying thanks to the laws of your own "petty nation state" and the right to religious self determination.
The only drawback to such a system are those such as yourself who abuse these freedoms to advocate political systems such as that of Hussain's regime (I will not use the word government) which...
I debate fairly often with people from various theocratic regimes such as Iran; they see a contradiction between the idea of self determination and a functioning society as if we put our needs before anyone else, how can we all work together as a nation?
Perhaps it's easier to understand why we do this if we look at the alternative which is everyone adhering to a single standard such as Sharia law, firstly this type of system is not proscriptive, there simply aren't laws to cover some issues...
...for example many Muslims opposed stem cell research even though this isn't specifically mentioned in their holy texts (which calls into question whether it was indeed God who made up such laws to begin with.)
This inflexibility also applies to interpretation of this system, a sharia court for example simply has one middle aged man with no legal training meting out supposed justice, as such an arbitrary law is inflicted subjectively by an individual as opposed to 12 of one's peers...
Anyone who disagrees with the law in such a system creates a problem for those who support it as since it has been decided arbitrarily, what gives one person more right than the other to decide what the law should be?
The alternative is the majority of people in society deciding on a system within which we can all live. This is based on the fairly simple concept of being able to do as one wishes provided one does not interfere in the rights of others to do the same.
...whom I've spoken wilfuly mistake western freedoms for anarchy, believing if people are free to do as they wish they will abuse that freedom.
My first response is that if everyone in their home country truly believed in the universal application of Sharia law, there would be no need for such a draconian legal system handing out horrific punishments with those who disagreed with it.
Secondly I point out that there is no contradiction in limiting individual freedoms in order to protect...
You are free to disagree with me under my nation's laws, if you decided however that what I had to say was so insulting that you felt obliged to kill me, you would find your freedom curtailed very dramatically.
Finally, the concept of an ideal system by definition requires self determination in order to embrace it. If for example you believed that Islam was the only correct religion but attempted to use coercion in order to make people attend religious...
...gatherings or participate in religious festivals, such victims of said coercion would be no more Muslims than a man being held up a gunpoint for his wallet would be giving away money.
The same concept can be applied to inflicting democracy on regimes suffering under dictatorships however I wonder if those who suffered persecution during Hussein's rule feel the same as you, now that they live in a country where they will not be murdered for disagreeing with their head of state? V.
While it is true Hitler was elected to power democratically, he then changed the law to allow himself to become an absolute dictator with the support of the German people. It is hard to imagine any sense in which he stood for the same kind of values prevalent in western democracies such as modern day Germany, dictators also maintain power through brutal supression of all dissent, Hitler was very good at getting rid of his enemies, this was not a fault of his people. V.
vlad1m1r I think your mistaken, I don't think Saddam's system was any less flawed the the US system, nor am I a Muslim. I however dislike western values and find their idea of "democracy" misleading, they are controlled by a few rich people. You asked which country I call home and my answer is none, there is no country on the whole of Terra I would call home.
An interesting if rather convenient way of avoiding the question, may I ask then which political system you favour besides democracy?
While western values do not pretend to be perfect I have yet to see a system which grants more liberty or prosperity, perhaps at times we do not go far enough, particularly with regard to the PATROT act which restricts certain freedoms but of course such laws are designed to protect said freedoms overall as I mentioned.
...vote, there is also a cap in many countries on the total amount that a party may devote to campaigning. In countries such as France corporations are forbidden from making donations to political parties to ensure objectivity.
While the potential for abuse exists, that is a far cry from calling the incumbent President of the USA or his predecessor a tyrant, indeed by your own argument surely the President is a pawn of the rich?
Of the current systems in use I'd say the best is socialism, again not perfect but better then "democracy".
Every US president is a pawn and a master. While they serve their corporate friends with favors and such they also use their position to get ahead with said corporate friends.
Considering the failure of socialist models throughout history I will have to categorise you as an idealist and yet I don't see how any of these values are incompatible with western democracy? If you see democracy as unduly influenced by the wealthy does it necessarily follow that it does not exist or that human rights are worthless, surely you have just disproved this by espousing a different political system to the one in the country where you live? V.
"democracy" as the west (the US mostly) believes it to be does not really exist. The leaders are bought by the wealthy and not truly chosen by the people. If my source is wrong then most of Europe is NOT socialist and you are correct that it is a failure but it is my understanding most of Europe is socialist and their system is notably better then the US.
As an unrelated side note humans have no rights they are nothing more then animals.
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kick them terrorist ass.
shockingzombie242 1 month ago
Classic
lxndrx 2 months ago
Who watched this first on Albinoblacksheep before Youtube?
Benniul9000 3 months ago 9
@Benniul9000 me
ACDCJCUSMC 2 months ago
@Benniul9000 Bitch please, who watched this on JibJab 9 years ago, before JibJab was crap, before Youtube?
seamus33333 1 month ago
Alwys found this very catchy.
Gasoline85 3 months ago in playlist Foretrukne for Gasoline85
oh man this shit takes me back!!
addicted2you20 4 months ago
haha xd funny song
mousa115 5 months ago
I loved this as a kid. Now I understand it and it's hilarious.
Themoushtaceleague96 5 months ago
sadam bomb bomb
TNWwrestling012 6 months ago
APELSIN!
tarkaNHD 6 months ago
Who's the dude in the red
0oMinceMeato0 6 months ago
@0oMinceMeato0 That is former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
DireWolf1984 2 months ago
Giving a finger to the Bush administration is considered a thing of honor.
artman40 7 months ago 12
Thumbs up if your watching this after Saddam's execution.
TheKungfu4life 7 months ago 4
You know, it's pretty funny how people laugh at this, but don't know who the people in it are.
Although it was funny at the time, and has a catchy tune (which despite my disagreements, find it funny to watch and listen to), the thoughts behind it really reflect the times and how things have changed. Pretty enlightening, actually.
HomoCyborgZombie 8 months ago
Sorry, I ment to thumb up.
Theredtail95 8 months ago
iraq war 1 and iraq war 2
Eminoglu03 8 months ago
this is good comedy humor! I've always loved this video and song!
RyanBrownLI 9 months ago
what is this song based on?
Dane333W 9 months ago
Love it!
xdlugia1 9 months ago
:lol:
Pure humor at his finest!
TheGamer4EverNL 10 months ago
I am happy to be the first one to state this on this page but on this day Osama Bin laden has died and America has earned justice!!!
MrBoerboy 10 months ago
bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb saddam
domenor12 10 months ago
Bomb!!!!
Maccas and Starbucks
Juzono1 11 months ago
yeah how did this work out for us?
whichoney 11 months ago
superrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr song bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb saddam so coooooooooooool
TheMarieLauren10 1 year ago
I WANT TO GET THIS SONG.
levelat350 1 year ago
We Are Happy he is dead he is evil
aqueseth 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahAHAHAHA LOL cant stop laghing
1234lilmama1 1 year ago
It's funny cuz he's dead.
kingben821 1 year ago
51secs OMG,i near pissed myself
onefunkyjunky 1 year ago
As soon as the bombs came down on the two Iraqis, i was about to lose faith in this video, but when the stores popped up out of the smoke, it was pretty cool
ACDCJCUSMC 1 year ago
32 people got hanged along Saddam
deadriclord678 1 year ago
who's the guy with the glasses
TLeteger 1 year ago
@TLeteger john howard, fr. prime minister of australia
udical 1 year ago
"Hey Saddam, IRaq will have FREEDOM!!" tru,tru
ACDCJCUSMC 1 year ago
0:36lol bush kick saddam ass back iraq
15jacala 1 year ago
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sabbath5678 1 year ago
is that obama with the mic?
conway1996 1 year ago
@conway1996 I think it's Collin Powell.
ExhibitJ92 1 year ago
@conway1996
Yes, that is the president of the US. That is EXACTLY how the president of the Us looks. Do you know ANYTHING about the argueable most famous country ruler on earth?
Flumong 1 year ago
@Flumong and dude? don't get all pissy cuz he doesn't know who obama is. Seriously? most famous country ruler on Earth? To WHO?! he hasen't even done shit for anyone but himself.. and for some reason gets a free peace award just for being elected.
You know who's famous in other nations? Kennedy. FDR, Wilson, Johnson.. those guys are. Sure they were shit in office but they did things for other nations too.
Gwyogurt 1 year ago
We didn't actually bomb Saddam, we hung him.
ExhibitJ92 1 year ago 3
@ExhibitJ92 yes.. but hang hang hang saddam just isn't as catchy..
Gwyogurt 1 year ago
America World Domination Tour!
Tosnoob 1 year ago
@Tosnoob so true
xXxsilverdragonxXx 1 year ago
this video was funny but did they have to shoot nsync? i didn't get that part.
Stephie2007 1 year ago
lets just give the iraqis a big nuclear middle finger coutorsy of the air force! even though i want to be a SEAL or a corpsman (navy) ^^
MrSexytbone 1 year ago
@MrSexytbone im an airforce man myself, my dad was an airman, and i like your idea, we should put a couple of B-2 spirits on that job and we'll win the war in a week.
KingofComputing 1 year ago
@KingofComputing exactly :D
MrSexytbone 1 year ago
i want to be a navy SEAL or a corpsman when i am of age. kill osama!
MrSexytbone 1 year ago
the one in red is tony blair if you didnt know just listen and it tells you a very funny video cant stop laughing
jamesblakecheyne 1 year ago
i recognize most people in here, but my question is who is int he red suit and the very end and who is in the blue one? i know that colin powell is in the green one, and i know bush and bush sr. seeing as how i was only 7 when bush got elected, i don't remember much of his cabinet.
KingofComputing 1 year ago
@KingofComputing i think i figured it out, tell me if i'm correct. the one in the red is tom delay, and the one in the blue is scooter libby. correct?
KingofComputing 1 year ago
"HEYYY Sadam, Iraq will have freedom!" That isn't true anymore. We are going to abandon them and they will have a civil war and end up like somalia. Terrorists won't have to hide anymore and we will go right back to where we left off in 2001. America is taking a step backwards the way I see it.
JD4Trojhans 1 year ago
NUKE SADAM AND IRAQ! I know he is dead but still...
microwavemaster448 1 year ago
he did watch bay watch in 1990 and yes he was masterbate.
15jacala 1 year ago
lmao
jobber25v 1 year ago
LOL our forces will.... who is te guy wearing BLUE.....
yichen100 1 year ago
@yichen100: Dick Cheney?
Adjuni 1 year ago
Invading Iraq was the right thing to do. I am truly thankful for George W Bush
CrackshotProductions 1 year ago
what song is this a parody of?
ytwatcher240 1 year ago
How bad he is dead
CaballeroAnthony 1 year ago
luv it
bounty411 1 year ago
what is the name of this song?
wolfdragon1209 1 year ago
Who were they guys in green and red?
VidMasterZ 1 year ago
the guy in green is former secretary of state Colin Powel and in red was the former prime minister of britain Tony Blair
dahockeyboy57 1 year ago
I love bush (both) ;)
cashmoneyvids 1 year ago
Thank god that bitch is dead. Go bush
cashmoneyvids 1 year ago 4
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Fuck Bush
saddami for ever
صـ* الله * أكبر *ــدامي للمــــــــــــــــــــوت
ArtLOVIN 2 years ago
He's dead, get over it.
armagodon300 1 year ago
i never get tired of this song.-
Qpollo 2 years ago 19
bomb, bomb, bomb saddam... hmm wait a second... he is already dead lol
funny song
bassemandere 2 years ago 4
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Fuck Bush
saddami for ever
صـ* الله * أكبر *ــدامي للمــــــــــــــــــــوت
liononline84 2 years ago
To bad he's dead EPIC LOLZ
ACDCFan2956 2 years ago
fuck you
MegaSelenaGomez1234 2 years ago
God, I remember originally seeing this thing on Albino Blacksheep years ago. Still funny!
Andy120290Returns 2 years ago 12
Same :D :L
Mahrisuh 2 years ago
Hes dead lets steal the oil already!
the7thsageofhyrule 2 years ago 2
LOL U DUD
mrbeydoun2 2 years ago
Now Saddam is dead, so the US can steal Iraq's oil.
BaatoKun 2 years ago 9
You say that as it's a bad ting oO
blackashell13 2 years ago 2
woah.. it is a very old video.. and now he's dead!!!
redeyes756 2 years ago
Is this song based on anything
Dane333 2 years ago
bombing saddam, duh
mrlemons93 2 years ago
the music asshole
Dane333 2 years ago
yer i think the music is based on a song but i cnt remember which one
mrlemons93 2 years ago
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i do not hate USA, but its a bit annoying that they are playing world cop
52727030 2 years ago
in interests in your self-preservation i beg you change your statement.
mikul88 2 years ago
Lol. In other words, the CIA have logged this comment and put it on a database of people they don't like.
IddyB 2 years ago
oh my god!! this flash video is old!! Like 5 years, I used 2 watch this in my computing class when my teacher wasnt looking!! haha!
princessdianaislove 2 years ago 8
Regardless of what you all people think... This music is so funny =D 5/5
Lancer2884 2 years ago 6
haha ya, i dont think highly of the bush administration but this is funny as hell!
PhuketBucket 2 years ago
america takes over other countries by sending mc.donalds and other american restaurants like that
fuckallposersbitches 2 years ago 4
carls jrs the shit tho
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Millsyhibs 2 years ago
BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB SADDAM.
Onsube 2 years ago 44
Give me one good reason beside 9/11 to bomb every muslim? We should only bomb terrorists! For gods sakes America if you can't stand something having a different culture then you, then grow the heck up. Honestly it's disgusting to think we live in a nation that's deviated so far from the Constitution, I imagine George Washington, and the rest of the founding fathers are looking at some people in America today shaking their heads and doing a massive facepalm (bleh, that was a terrible analogy >.>)
spamzillaproductions 2 years ago 6
our forefathers are turning over in their graves for this, yes. i do believe we should take action ffor 9/11, but that does not mean we have to bomb peoplebecause they are different, and you know what, americans are just humans, just like all the rest of you. We arent perfect.
bluediamond80 2 years ago
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sammysampsonite 2 years ago
This is a satire, you realise?
awesome87 2 years ago
I really love this video
MissHuntsgirl 2 years ago 5
iam kuwait girL and i cant forget what bosh father do with us in the war 1990
ameriqa is the first friend
we Love bosh faher
AREEM994 2 years ago 33
@AREEM994bomb omb omb bom bomb bomb bomb bomb kim jong
greenpantaloons 1 year ago
@AREEM994 LONG LIVE THE FRIENDS OF THE USA but now your nation is safe and iraq is a trash heap
greenpantaloons 1 year ago
@AREEM994 kuwait girl,
are u muslim?
FrontlineBadmanz 11 months ago
@AREEM994 So, you love Chris Bosh's dad? hmmmmmm. Didn't know the NBA helped people
AutomaticAxe 9 months ago 3
I wish Bush could have pressed the big red button!! But at least he got killed
J4MM3R5 2 years ago 10
Funny...but in retrospect, its kind of frightening how lightly the prospect of war was taken at the time...but we're all guilty of that, myself included.
CKAE1441 2 years ago
Saddam is a gay idiot and a crybaby
Bendikoro 2 years ago 2
aw he was making Iraq a better country but at the same time being a complete arse.
thatwassolastweek1 2 years ago 3
They are so right bomb Iraq!!!!
Alexswe1 2 years ago 3
wooot i love this song, too bad he wasnt bombed but at least his ass was hung :p
spottythelegend 2 years ago 4
i know bush is in this but whos dose 3 others?
deltaforceee 2 years ago
bush senior, tony blair and i'm not sure about the other guy
creshinibon 2 years ago
the other guy is some french guy who wanted to kill saddam to but the french goverment didnt want to
00charlie10 2 years ago
fucking good music
deltaforceee 2 years ago
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL the best!!! LOLOLBOMBBOMBBOMBSADDAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL!?!?!? LOLOLOLOLOLO
shoop1da1woop 2 years ago 5
What is a name of original song?
DarthLesny 2 years ago
way to funny.............love it!
JEK1269 2 years ago
LOL funny as hell
sdc1324 2 years ago
When Iraq was in war with Iran, Us sell veapons to both sides.
abc123y89sak 2 years ago
hahahahahahahahaahahahaha lol lol lol lol lol nxfobjzgklxfyukoyutykiryuty
lolyloku 2 years ago
0:51 ! lol
darematthew 2 years ago
Nice, XD LOL
sovlblighter 2 years ago
you have to admit it's quite catchy.
Mushie91 2 years ago 4
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL the best song evaaaar!!! LOLOL why didnt saddam die before!?!?!? LOLOLOLOLOLO
ThaNorwegianDude 2 years ago
While selsuru may give some good examples, I must say I agree with Vladimir overall. While the US, UN, and NATO still exists, I doubt we will see the age of democracy fall in a very long time. At least I don't hope so. As for corruption of The White House, I'll stick my head in a furnace if I find out he's corrupt. It's laughable.
Thank you Vladimir for your insightful comment. T.S.
TorgeirSt 2 years ago
we should have just kicked Saddam's ass in the gulf war (of 1990-1991). I mean we kicked his ass in terms of the the casualties but we left it at that.
glaked23 2 years ago 2
"we"?
You were down there shootin' at stuff and killing arabs? :D
WolfenDay 2 years ago
So when will somebody invade the US to overthrow their tyrant?
selsuru 2 years ago
The President of the USA is elected by universal adult suffrage, also known as democracy, who may I ask elected Saddam Hussein?
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
Keep telling yourself that as your corporate masters ass rape you over and over again.
selsuru 2 years ago
By your own reasoning wouldn't we be just as much at the mercy of corporations in a dictatorship as in a democracy? As for me, I work for the government as a Teacher so no doubt you'd consider me a drain on the western Imperialist coffers. US Foreign policy leaves something to be desired, I doubt very much that a genocidal dictator of the likes of Hussein would have made more moral decisions in his place. Luckily the most powerful country is one which embraces democratic freedoms. V.
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
I find it amusing how you monkeys are so quick to claim your petty little nation states are better then the rest even though they are all the exact same with just different flags. Your kind have not seen democracy since ancient Greece, it's not wise to mistake your current system for theirs.
selsuru 2 years ago
I can understand how my own nation, the UK could be called little but considering the US is one of the largest countries in the world in terms of landmass and is undoubtedly the most superior in military and economic terms I think it's safe to say democracy isn't going anywhere.
As rusty as my history is, I believe that the Ancient Greek form of democracy was confined to male land owners aged over fifty so I see little in common with the current system.
Your point that such nations are the...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
The US is still small by comparison (literally and figuratively ). While the Greeks did restrict voting to male land owners they still let the people decide not create an illusion of such rights.
selsuru 2 years ago
...same is true in the sense of their democratic nature and the freedoms they espouse. This includes the right to express one's opinion freely, a freedom which incidentally you are currently enjoying thanks to the laws of your own "petty nation state" and the right to religious self determination.
The only drawback to such a system are those such as yourself who abuse these freedoms to advocate political systems such as that of Hussain's regime (I will not use the word government) which...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
You actually think I belong to one of your little nation sates!
selsuru 2 years ago
I debate fairly often with people from various theocratic regimes such as Iran; they see a contradiction between the idea of self determination and a functioning society as if we put our needs before anyone else, how can we all work together as a nation?
Perhaps it's easier to understand why we do this if we look at the alternative which is everyone adhering to a single standard such as Sharia law, firstly this type of system is not proscriptive, there simply aren't laws to cover some issues...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
...for example many Muslims opposed stem cell research even though this isn't specifically mentioned in their holy texts (which calls into question whether it was indeed God who made up such laws to begin with.)
This inflexibility also applies to interpretation of this system, a sharia court for example simply has one middle aged man with no legal training meting out supposed justice, as such an arbitrary law is inflicted subjectively by an individual as opposed to 12 of one's peers...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
Anyone who disagrees with the law in such a system creates a problem for those who support it as since it has been decided arbitrarily, what gives one person more right than the other to decide what the law should be?
The alternative is the majority of people in society deciding on a system within which we can all live. This is based on the fairly simple concept of being able to do as one wishes provided one does not interfere in the rights of others to do the same.
Many Islamists to...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
...whom I've spoken wilfuly mistake western freedoms for anarchy, believing if people are free to do as they wish they will abuse that freedom.
My first response is that if everyone in their home country truly believed in the universal application of Sharia law, there would be no need for such a draconian legal system handing out horrific punishments with those who disagreed with it.
Secondly I point out that there is no contradiction in limiting individual freedoms in order to protect...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
..the concept of freedom overall.
You are free to disagree with me under my nation's laws, if you decided however that what I had to say was so insulting that you felt obliged to kill me, you would find your freedom curtailed very dramatically.
Finally, the concept of an ideal system by definition requires self determination in order to embrace it. If for example you believed that Islam was the only correct religion but attempted to use coercion in order to make people attend religious...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
...gatherings or participate in religious festivals, such victims of said coercion would be no more Muslims than a man being held up a gunpoint for his wallet would be giving away money.
The same concept can be applied to inflicting democracy on regimes suffering under dictatorships however I wonder if those who suffered persecution during Hussein's rule feel the same as you, now that they live in a country where they will not be murdered for disagreeing with their head of state? V.
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
...would only allow you to criticise the foreign policy of another nation provided your opinion coincided with that of one's own government.
Of course there are those who simply ignore the law and abuse freedoms but the idea that a dictatorship is incorruptible is by definition laughable.
May I ask then which country you call home? I'd be interested to see what superior system it has in place to Western Democracy. V.
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
well although i dont agree with selsuru, many dictators have still been elected like hitler
rdvd7 2 years ago
While it is true Hitler was elected to power democratically, he then changed the law to allow himself to become an absolute dictator with the support of the German people. It is hard to imagine any sense in which he stood for the same kind of values prevalent in western democracies such as modern day Germany, dictators also maintain power through brutal supression of all dissent, Hitler was very good at getting rid of his enemies, this was not a fault of his people. V.
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
vlad1m1r I think your mistaken, I don't think Saddam's system was any less flawed the the US system, nor am I a Muslim. I however dislike western values and find their idea of "democracy" misleading, they are controlled by a few rich people. You asked which country I call home and my answer is none, there is no country on the whole of Terra I would call home.
selsuru 2 years ago
An interesting if rather convenient way of avoiding the question, may I ask then which political system you favour besides democracy?
While western values do not pretend to be perfect I have yet to see a system which grants more liberty or prosperity, perhaps at times we do not go far enough, particularly with regard to the PATROT act which restricts certain freedoms but of course such laws are designed to protect said freedoms overall as I mentioned.
The rich and poor alike have a single...
vlad1m1r 2 years ago 2
...vote, there is also a cap in many countries on the total amount that a party may devote to campaigning. In countries such as France corporations are forbidden from making donations to political parties to ensure objectivity.
While the potential for abuse exists, that is a far cry from calling the incumbent President of the USA or his predecessor a tyrant, indeed by your own argument surely the President is a pawn of the rich?
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
Of the current systems in use I'd say the best is socialism, again not perfect but better then "democracy".
Every US president is a pawn and a master. While they serve their corporate friends with favors and such they also use their position to get ahead with said corporate friends.
selsuru 2 years ago
Considering the failure of socialist models throughout history I will have to categorise you as an idealist and yet I don't see how any of these values are incompatible with western democracy? If you see democracy as unduly influenced by the wealthy does it necessarily follow that it does not exist or that human rights are worthless, surely you have just disproved this by espousing a different political system to the one in the country where you live? V.
vlad1m1r 2 years ago
"democracy" as the west (the US mostly) believes it to be does not really exist. The leaders are bought by the wealthy and not truly chosen by the people. If my source is wrong then most of Europe is NOT socialist and you are correct that it is a failure but it is my understanding most of Europe is socialist and their system is notably better then the US.
As an unrelated side note humans have no rights they are nothing more then animals.
selsuru 2 years ago
fuck of saddam he is a motherfucker ...SUCK MY DICK SADDAM!!!...
Butterschmalz88 2 years ago
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Butterschmalz88 2 years ago
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alru24 3 years ago 6
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osama's middle name is HUSSAIN!
americanidol434 3 years ago
so what is his full name?
no it isn't osama hussain bin laden..
masterpilot94 3 years ago
you mean obama
BabiiCatnut 3 years ago 2
Lol, no he mean Osama Hussain bin laden = Saddam
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osama bin barack
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barack hussain obama...
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may allah bless saddam our hero in paradise
moulkha 3 years ago