Making Pine-Pitch Adhesive

[xJbrandx]

now light the arrows on fire before you shoot them :) pine resin is extremely flamable

[cekinxxx]

how do you clean the pots afterwards?

[CoachTomPasLax]

@cekinxxx You don't! I just use an old pot from a garage sale or maybe just an aluminum soup can or something like that.

[defuzed28]

Subscribed to you. I really liked this video. My deepest gratitudes to you for making this video. Thanks :)

[GreenPlatypusBaby]

does it have to be pine, can it be spruce or some other tree for example?

[TheSonofgun666]

Can you use regular dried crushed up grass? my mum has an issues w/ using manuer (i'm a minor, so don't judge me)

[MrMetallicious]

Would this work as a good wood to wood glue?

[aaronpetersutherland]

Having experience with modern adhesives, is there a a way of balancing ductility with strength? My biggest concern with making this is crystallizing the pitch by way of overheating or dehydrating. If I make it a bit softer and lash a tool in place on a haft or shaft, lower temperature would certainly be advisable because the lashings are adding support, but what about securing things solely with the resin compound?

Great video by the way!

[MrItchyElbow]

Don't know if this question was asked: Did you ever get that pot clean?

[Fuzzymono5]

I've tried to watch all of your videos and I want to say they are all amazing. Thanks Tom! Please never stop.

[altaiti]

your videos are very good :D

I also make bows and arrows...I am from Brazil

thank's

[seanetc]

Actually never mind about my question in my earlier post about the charcoal, i didnt listen properly.

[seanetc]

Hey paleoaleo i'm thinking of making this stuff but i dont have acess to coal or pine pitch. We got an old peach tree and when its cut this golden pitch stuff comes out and forms a ball. Can i use this stuff?

I dont have any coal and no one around my area uses it but can you use charcoal?

[specioss]

can u use the big ( 3 cm diameter) globs of pine resin found on the exteriur of the tree?

[Paleoaleo]

@specioss - Yes, definitely! That's pretty much what I'm using. The resin I usually collect is fairly hard and dry and not overly sticky. I pry it off with a stick and catch it in a bag. Tom

[specioss]

@Paleoaleo kk thnx!

p.s. Great vid!

[AlexGreenGarcia]

Good job Tom!

Please check out my videos stone tool artifacts 1 & 2

Take care.

[BombMastre]

Thank you so much!

I went down in the woods at once after watching this, and I've collected a fairly good amount of pine pitch/resin! Now I just have to make some charcoal and I'm ready to go! Very very well explained! Thank alot, mate!!

5*

[goldgeter123]

Great Series of video. Lots of information. Keep up the great work....Thanks

[Uriel1816]

Good vid!

[Manx2manir]

Question, Why is charcoal used in making it? What does it do to the glue, besides making it dark. Sorry if i may sound stupid, but i'm just curious.

[oneraindog]

i understand how to make the sap flow but what is best way to collect it in a container?

[dadmanatputer]

excellent video! Your opinion on which subspecies of conifer is strongest? Would I best pick spruce sap or is yellow or red pine best?

[CountryBoy32695]

hey if i take a chunk out of a pine tree in my back yard will it produce the sap?

[C24B9]

@CountryBoy32695 slash the tree diagonally (shallow slant...less than 30 degrees); don't go more than 1/3 or so of the way around the tree, to avoid damaging it permanently. Quarter-inch thick slash. Also, find a large source of trees; after tapping one, let it rest a year or two before returning to it. But, all this varies, depending on the species of the tree. Go conservatively at first, and see what you get. Here in New England, my pines can be tapped more each time, but less often. Cheers!

[MadSmokerBBQ]

@CountryBoy32695 Yes, use a hatchet and chop two vertical rows at an angle forming a channel for the sap to run down, a foot or tow long.

[darkcolmar]

<----Mike_H from Paleoplantet

Hey Tom, why horse poop?

[snocamo154]

Bear Grylls took some pine pitch, some white wood ash, and some of the woven wood fiber mat from the canoe and made a doable patch for a canoe he found slammed up against a tree after a flood. Seems to work pretty good if applied to a dry surface while thick and hot (pudding consistency) and not runny. The fiber mat helps to hold the goo together when torque is applied.

[JohnTheRipper2]

about how much charcoal do i need to crush in the mixture? It's the first time i'm going to make this glue, any advice? 5/5 for the vid

[csuman77]

60% charcoal, 40% pine tar... roughly... The more charcoal, the harder the finished dryed product. Too much and it will become brittle..

[pkryane6]

@csuman77 I think you're wrong. The more charcoal, the more malleable and softer is the finished product. The charcoal is a plasticizer and it's purpose is to prevent it from becoming brittle when dry. Dried resin is extremely brittle and breaks almost like glass so it follows that the more charcoal, the less brittle the finished product becomes!

[csuman77]

Clarification after watching this video: 60% Dry materials(charcoal, horse manure, etc... .whatever inert ingredients you want) and 40% pine sap..

[bassnman420]

dont laugh but I used resin from marijuana and pine resin with white ash and it was dang strong man..so if u know a stoner get that bong resin and throw in hahahaha

[torisdad1]

I used marijauna resin and forgot what the hell I was doing...

[MadSmokerBBQ]

@torisdad1 that keeps happening!

[defuzed28]

@torisdad1 lol thats funny

[jaredsalzano]

i dont think you would ever have enough for it to be significant to the mixture.

[bassnman420]

@jaredsalzano dude i had about an ounce of resin and it works good with crushed poo and white ash

[dangunit69]

I saw a similar demonstration on the Primative Ways website and the guy had a pretty ingenious adaptation, he sharpened the end of his storage stick into a fairly thin point (pencil size) on the area he collected the pitch, then to a full point at the end. When he gathered the pitch he left the end of the stick exposed and when he wanted to use the pitch he lit the stick on fire and buned it like a candle and dripped the pitch like candle wax off the end. Great video, thanks for sharing.

[flmason]

Can someone straighten me out. I get the feeling nsome pine pitch dried almost rock hard, and other type remain sticky?

The hard drying type seems good to haft arrow heads, etc.

The sticky sort is used to seal canoes and boats?

[flmason]

Is the "dried grass", LOL! really neccesary?

[atomdongle]

i have learnt alot from you thanks so much for sharing your nolage

[slsskrxoxo]

ive made this but its not rely any better than elmers school glue. am i doing something wrong?

[yourroaddog]

try adding ashes the lye will make it strong

[smellanalan]

@slsskrxoxo no but its natural, most people into this type of art try to make everything as it was in ancient times.

[joehavian]

id like to say thank you for puting this video up, i followed the information in this video to the letter and got exactly the same product as shown. it truly is breath taking recreating the technology of old. (5 stars!!!)

[TreasureFiend]

Great video, never seen that done before.

[thomas242007]

you could also go to a music shop and buy some those resin block they use for violin strings and such if you wanted to, same stuff, but free is best

[oiuytrewwert]

those dogs are anoying

[oiuytrewwert]

hay were do you get that pestel and mortar

[lsmith254]

mexican grocery store or try kitchen supply store...easy to find, and not very expensive. I liked his idea, though, large flat rock. It's free, and you don't have to haul it around, ha, ha!

[dbmcmillan1]

Thank you for the great video!! I just finished my first obsidian/antler knife this morning and it is rock solid thanks to your video. I can see the benefit of using manure and plan on it once this batch is used up. THANKS AGAIN

[Paleoaleo]

Awesome! If you find a good recipie let us know!

[Maskuerade]

very interesting! Thankyou for the natural adhesive recipe :]

I've used pine tree sap before and other types of saps and let them harden, but only alone. So this should help me out allot without having to worry about it taking so long to dry. Should help allot with my didgeridoo!

5/5

[atomdongle]

awesome vid 5*

[elazteca23]

how do you get the pine tar? great vid

[briancurnel]

From a pine tree that has been cut or where woodpeckers have penetrated the outer bark looking for insects. Look for an Amber hardened sap... etc

[gearysveggies]

Nice video Tom! I think ill try making some next weekend. one question, how sticky is it to skin? It didn't really stick to you but it is called an adhesive...

[scrumptiousvittles]

k, paleoaleo, i've got a couple good ones now, should you choose to tackle them. how was this done before metal containers? and... could you give me a good rough volume ratio of sap to charcoal to manure/dried grass to start experimenting with?

these videos are amazingly helpful. particularly with these kinds of skills i find you can learn more in 1 minute of mere youtube video than in 50 pages of reading.

[Paleoaleo]

Good question (about the containers)! The answer is probably different for different geographic locations, with different resources. In coastal areas, shells could have/would have been used. I've used both large clam shells and abalone shells. Also, soapstone was used in lieu of pottery in many places in the world. Here in California tribes made wide use of soapstone for cooking vessels . I'd also think that this can be done on a flat rock sitting on some hot coals - haven't tried it though.

[scrumptiousvittles]

could end up being a messy affair i suppose...

thanks

[ZmajSnoshaj]

@scrumptiousvittles

Here in Oklahoma it was done in a firepit... a bowl made from the Earth itself.

[scrumptiousvittles]

well, never mind about that. i just got to the "dead dry grass" bit :)

[scrumptiousvittles]

great video. do you think moose/deer droppings would work just as well as manure? or do you know of any other materials i could find in the woods that would serve the same purpose?

[mellingerb]

great veido I've really learned alot

[netytan]

Sweet, glue stick :).

[Crashed518]

Thank you very much! I have been wondering how this was made, after admiring some of the wonderful hand made tools which use it.

[AinokeA365]

lol the dog doesn't like the smell. probably smells like...horse manure. i wonder why? lol great vid im gonna try it!