So NOW you see it for yourself a complete fabrication of the facts utter lies from senior commanders at the top of our police forces. Selling their lies to the media.
Take back your country Occupy Everywhere Londons first force the Truth on them Thanks for putting this together nuff love.
Real policeing went out of the window years ago as it's all cctv, kettling, plastic police, cardboard police and arrest's for street drinking, fucking lunacy and interesting that the public for once has footage instead of the babylon always watching you.
££££££ and hope the family are pleased here and get what is deserved compensation wise or other.
Also that's a bit snide blaming Alcoholism for what happened to him. A fucking disgrace.
True -- but its hard to criticise them for that because I would probably do exactly the same thing in there situations ( and doing security work we do
.. For instance we alway write "we used reasonable force" never " we have to choke the guy out because he refused to leave"
He describes being involved with the IPCC and that the IPCC is being informed. Today the inquest reports indicate that the IPCC subsequently relied on not having enough CCTV evidence for a case against the police, but the inquest is revealing that plenty of video evidence is available to the IPCC. Not a very independent Police Complaints Commission.
ive been to prison because the police lied,the assualted me and i beat em up and they said i assualted them first it was a lie ,i got 9 months for something i didnt start,kill all the cops!!!!
Can someone from the met tell me why that officer had to take that action against ian. because with all the media and exposure and video footage that copper should be charged with murder. I tell you what lets bring back the death penalty for anyone who commits murder.
Who precisely is the cunt faggot masked 4" dicked copper who murdered this poor bloke? Someone should find this piece of shit and settle his hash for good.....
Welcome to the freedom of democracy...YOU ARE NOT FREE!!! WAKE UP!! you are being tricked...your protectors are shown as your enemies and your enemies sit as your masters! when will you wake up for goodness sake...
What a fucking sickening lie you left him to die you cunts.Shocking murder, this case blatantly outlines how out of control this corroupt private gang are. Common law was not upheld. RISE UP RISE UP It's time to get mad it's time to say no more FIGHTBACK MUST START NOW open your eyes and wake the fuck up, chuck you i-pad in the bin get real get mad say I'AM A HUMAN BEING I AM A HUMAN BEING Inform the deadhead subservients make them see . This case should wake up this once great land
no wonder a lot of people hate these corrupt bastard pigs, from now on if I ever saw a cop getting beaten to death I would not lift a finger to help him
We don't need more weapons! The more weapons that are in society, the more people will use them and the more people will get killed. All you have to do is look at all the killings that take place in American High Schools where teenagers with a grudge against society in general, get hold of weapons and go on a rampage killings loads of innocent people. It's LESS weapons that we need, not more! Also look at that thug Raoul whatshisname in England recently who had just got out of prison
@sammycat2 You are so naive. How many have died in American high schools compared to the THOUSANDS and thousands murdered on the street because they were UNARMED. You have let the liberal media trick you. If you are from America, read the Constitution and understand it. Read the founding fathers. If you disagree with THEM, move to a fascist country that prohibits weapons and try that for awhile. If you are NOT from America, you have no business commenting on America. Unarmed citizens are slaves.
@sammycat2 You are so naive. How many have died in American high schools compared to the THOUSANDS and thousands murdered on the street because they were UNARMED. You have let the liberal media trick you. If you are from America, read the Constitution and understand it. Read the founding fathers. If you disagree with THEM, move to a fascist country that prohibits weapons and try that for awhile. If you are NOT from America, you have no business commenting on America. Unarmed citizens are slaves.
i don't think the police should be charged with murder because the man gets up and walks away looking fine. Just because he dies of a heart-attack it does not have anything to to with the police pushing him over. It could have been an other reason.
Can you imagine how many people have been fined or sent to prison on the lies that these cops tell. This is a senior officer trained in lying to the public. Notice how easy it is for him, The lies just roll out of his mouth and sound so convincing, Ask yourself this, if you had'nt seen the video of ian tomlinson, would you doubt a single word that comes out this trained liars mouth?. Imagine being in court for something you didnt do and he was giving evidence against you. You wouldnt have a hope
Until police are charged are charged and punished at the same rate as civilians who commit crimes against police, I cannot respect them.
Truthfully, they are complete scum to me and I'd rather their death than speak to them. Strangely though, I have not malice toward them while they are not in uniform. It is the symbol of their ill-conceived power that causes my blood to boil.
I freely admit that I'd rather them dead while in uniform than to look at them.
The Metropolitan police tried to run me over twice the same week my best friend was murdered in a hit and run which the police said was suicide. On repeated occasions they have warned me that I will be shot i.e. executed by them if I don't keep my mouth shut.
Presently they are engaging in an extra-judicial punishment and torture of somebody they know has a profound mental health problem
this kind of shit happens all over the world, I live in America and it happens here. just know all policeman like that asshole, there time will come twice as hard. and when your time comes i hope it hurts so hard that when you walk away your fucking coward ass will collapse and die!!!! (" an eye for an eye")
These cops live somewhere, where? We need people to put names and addresses of cops judges magistrates on here for all to see. With the thought in mind that you are well known should be enough to kerb, your facist ways. We must act to get these animals under control.
You people keep saying ''OH THAT FAT FUCKING CUNT NEEDS TO BE JAILED... blablabla''. Well, instead of talking, why don't fucking do something about it? Those protesters should have jumped the policeman and taught him a lesson. Or, if you're non-violent, protest in the streets of London against POLICE in general. I know I would, but sadly, I don't live in London anymore.
But he is clearly lying, and he must know that he is lying - in order to cover up the unlawful killing of a civilian. Surely he should go down for at least 20 years?
SO HEY THERE, COPER, READY TO CHANGE YOUR LIE YET??? I hope you feel like the ass hole you are you jerk. How much are those G20 cowards giving you????? You bloody MURDERER.
It wasn't murder it was manslaugter obviously it is bad but it doesn't help to come across reactionary. The lack of definition may take away the crime that has taken place!
The biggest crime, once again, is that the pig filth deliberately lied and misled the public over it, just as in the De Menez case. This is far, far bigger than the expenses row (sickening though that is, I simply don't know why the media aren't going to town over this.
lovinglife123 , I agree that it should be man- slaughter I have read some comments saying that the police are baton trained and can execute a jab in the right place knowing it will cause hemorrage, which if that was the case then it could be premeditated murder. So i wouldnt rule it out. On the other side of the coin i dont suppose it will ever matter what it was, Im sure we all know where this is headed, YES UNDER THAT GREAT BIG CARPET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THEM.
I would advise every British person here criticizing the police to be very careful and to thinking about just backing off now.
Not that these out of control murderers don't deserve criticism. In fact these murderers and liers deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison. I'm just saying that if you value your life, it's best just to learn to accept that these things happen under ZanuLabor.
Wat do expect from a police "service" dat has lied about crime in London for years. Crime is falling dey say. Pull d other one it's got bells on it. The cops actually fail to record crime & dat is how d figures have been made to fall over d past few years. Oh! & d fact dat many people now have given up reporting crime because nothing ever happens to deal with it. Cops sitting in vans in d West End waiting for crime to happen whilst in East London dare r not enought cops 2go round.
@1992jamo i was the ukninjawarrior as this account fucked up for some reason, yes having a firearm would make you safer and having firearms would make the government think before they piss us off
@painsey Having a firearm means you are much more likely to get shot. No thanks! And if we had firearms, it means that riots would be settled by the army instead. Personally I don't think that I'd want to be in a riot where people have guns, because people would get shot.
@1992jamo whatare you talking about? if the uk law abiding population of the uk had firearms then the law abiding people would be able to protect themselves from being raped, mugged and murdered unless you would prefer victims to be unarmed and the criminals armed, you say ppl shouldn't have guns but i dont see you saying that the government shouldnt be protected by body guards with firearms. I see your on the anti self defence bandwagon dont you know criminals love your way of thinking?
@painsey If we had guns so would the people trying to rape, mug and murder us. Don't you know criminals love the idea of getting hold of guns easily? Not to mention its hard to use a gun on somebody if they are already pointing it at you. And yes, call me naive, but I do have trust in my government not to kill millions of its citizens.. Sounds to me like you are scared.
What makes you think I wasn't aware of Everybody in Germany being disarmed? And an analogy between a tool and a weapon? Really?
@1992jamo and how exactly would a criminal be able to hold a firearm licence when they have a criminal record? and dont say something like "oh the guy with the gun licence breaking the law might not have a criminal record" because a person trying to rape someone would already have a criminal record so he could not have a firearms licence in the first place, ppl in germany trusted hitler not to murder them and he killed 12 million+ ppl, you really are foolish to think (cont)
@painsey Now it's getting hilarious. The unlawful would obtain weapons in (Get this, its a shocker) Unlawful ways! However, you're wrong, they might not have a criminal record. I doubt ALL criminals have been their entire lives. Hitler disarmed the population, even if we had firearms; if the government wanted to commit genocide they would disarm our population first anyway.
@1992jamo your so deluded, your saying a person with no convictions would go out and commit a violent crime as his first ever offence? you have the brain of a clam, why do you think the english dictators want the populace fully disarmed? its so there would be no threat against them when the one party ruling comes into effect, the con/dem party is just the beginning for a one party uk system
@painsey No, retard; I'm suggesting they might not get caught. 'why do you think the english dictators want the populace fully disarmed? its so there would be no threat against them when the one party ruling comes into effect, the con/dem party is just the beginning for a one party uk system' That has got to be the most deluded and paranoid thing I have ever heard someone suggest seriously. No wonder you are so scared you want a gun!
@1992jamo i notice you say the words might not get caught and not will get caught. Your talking about be being scared? let me tell you this truth "slaves dont have weapons" i say again give me the info on that very questionable website you gave me as in who put the site up online, and i see your still thinking the government and the police care about you when the video on this youtube page clearly shows that is not the case, your gonna be a very good slave as you are supporting the police.
The government and police are us. Of course I don't support the actions in this video, but its not as if that represents all police. And what would happen if we had guns?? I guess there would be a shit load more deaths.
@1992jamo they are us? lmfao, when has the governemt evey cared about the ppl or let us have a say on laws? and if we the law abiding people had firearms like in the USA there would be far less violent crime, as when was the last time you have heard of a criminal saying he (the criminal) would stay safe to carry out his crime? its simple logic criminals prefer their victims to be unarmed, its a simple fact deal with it.
@painsey Yes, believe it or not, police and politicians are people, you probably were friends with some at school. Are criminals really thinking logically when they commit a violent crime..? And I have to say having a gun does make violent crime a lot more easy..
@1992jamo are they really our friends? yeah go say that to the relatives or Ian Tomlison, yeah i once worked with a guy who becomes a government hires thug aka police officer, he was and still is the biggest asshole i have ever known. i see you have not still not said how many ppl in the USA have stopped a serious crime while using a legally held firearm, well i suppose you dont wanna loose your flawed argument now do you or shall i do a video for you on youtube giving you some needed education?
@1992jamo the police force as a whole gets away with murder everyday, i wonder what would happen if a police officer shot a burgular found in the same palace/castle as the queen, the police force abuse their powers everyday, wake up
@1992jamo the Swiss are twice as much armed than Americans with more guns per population (fact) but you ppl on the anti gun ownership bandwagon dont use facts do you, you ppl just get your info from idiots like the uk gun control network who believe you can convert air guns to fire live bullets and btw the swiss have very low crime and they are more armed than the USA
@painsey Ooh what a lovely strawman you have just made! You know me so well you can tell me I think those things and then argue against it? Not to mention the statistics I talked about earlier. Switzerland's population is about 6 million, it would be surprising to see huge crime rates. Admittedly its gun crime rate isn't high either; however gun crime rates are statically much much higher on average in countries that actually have them.
@1992jamo strawman argument= a word when the person says the word strawman has lost an argument. i was talking about the population per 1000 who have firearms. in other words as the swiss are armed 1.5 times higher than the Americans then you should have crime at 1.5 times higher in Switzerland
@painsey I was suggesting that you telling me: "I don't use facts, and I get my info from the 'uk gun control network' and believing air guns can be converted into real guns" is a strawman because you have asserted it from no evidence then used it against me.
I realise what you said, and I agreed they have low gun crime rate, but on average there is loads more gun crime in countries where people can get them easily. I also appreciate that you were talking about an percentage.
@1992jamo countries that have high gun crime like in south africa have very strict laws governing firearms, the criminals get firearms but law abiding people can not have hand guns, the criminals know this and that is why there are high amounts of gun crime in countries like that, just like here in the uk, law abiding ppl here in the uk cant have a handgun but thats no problem for criminals as they get them illegally so much for the uk ban on hand guns. But dont let that ruin your argument
@painsey In south Africa, if you want a hang gun, you can get a licence. If not, you can still get one.
Ruin my argument? Maybe if it was in anyway easy to get guns or ammunition in the UK. But it isn't. What % of violent criminals in the UK actually have guns? Very difficult and Very expensive. Not many of our robbers, thieves and muggers have enough money for them..otherwise they wouldn't be stealing in the first place.
@1992jamo it is very difficult to own a gun in south africa as that government made them so expensive that it has banned them by the back door, and you ask what % of crimes here have involved handguns the answer is 87% (source F.B.I. database) also you uneducated comment about thieves having money is debunked as it doesn't make sense with what your saying
Anyway, 87% of crime in our country involves handguns? Really? Who the fuck are you trying to convince? And even if it was true (which it isn't) wouldn't that be the most sound argument saying that guns are bad?
Your made up statistic does not debunk anything, except if somebody had a theory you are intelligent.
@1992jamo guns are bad? yeah sure the same thing could be said that cameras are bad as they allow people to take photos of children for child molesters would you also say cameras should be banned to? and now your saying the F.B.I. are making up lies okaaaaaaaaaay, like i said i have researched firearm crime for the last 25 yrs i think i know what im talking about, and btw gun crime has risen 87% since the 1997 handgun ban came into force, hasnt worked has it.
@painsey What a fantastic analogy again! A gun has little purpose, to kill or maim (a weapon which is not a tool). A camera can be used for art and preserving memories.
My doubts were not in the F.B.I, but in that you have this data from them. Why would the FBI have this info? And you didn't say increase, you said 'what % of crimes here have involved handguns the answer is 87%'
The ban in 1997 got rid of 22. cal or smaller. Hardly a huge change which could be correlated directly to the ban.
@1992jamo oh here we go your using the apple and pear argument, if you are correct in this ideology that you have by definition i should be able to own 10 ton of gun powder as gun powder was invented by the chinese for signaling the troops, right? i see your blaming the tool and not the person. The F.B.I. keep records from around the world for research and reference data reasons, also the tory government before 1997 banned weapons above .22 calibre and then labour banned handguns after 1997
@painsey I would okay with legalising gun powder, if someone wants to make an explosive they could do it cheaper and more potent than gunpowder in their back gardens.. Not to mention the other uses of it.
If you look on nationmaster and go graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms you'll see we have 14 murders with guns. When dealing with such small numbers 87% doesn't mean much. Lets have a look at America, 9,369 murders with guns that's 669x more while the population is only 5x bigger.
@1992jamo i think i shall do a video on this as i dont have enough characters to type an answer, stay tuned to my channel today, i shall do the video soon today.
@1992jamo that the uk government would never do the same thing as they have already in northern Ireland in the 1970's, trust me i know what im talking about when it comes to this debate, i have studied firearm ownership worldwide for over 25 yrs and every were that firearms are legally owned there is a very low crime rate in that area 22,000 deaths in the USA with firearms but 2.5 / 3 million crimes stopped by ppl in the USA with legally held firearms (source the F.B.I. data base)
@1992jamo and what body is in charge on that website? how many law abiding people in the USA with a firearms licence has used their firearms for crimes? and how many people have used a legally held firearm to stop crimes?
@painsey How many 'LAW ABIDING' people commit 'CRIMES' with their firearms? Even a 3 year old could see the problem with that question. Put yourself in a situation where you are going to stop a crime (Like in the movies LOL) A guy has a gun pointed at you.. you can't do anything. You watch another crime take place, you point your gun, he already has his out too, you point at each other... what now? shoot each other and die? But you wouldn't have this problem if he didn't have a gun..
@painsey What are you going to do? shoot them? Oh just threaten them and call the police? I'm sure you'd feel so vindicated if they turned around and you had to shoot them.. How would you feel safe with guns everywhere? If someone wants to attack you, they have a gun; It doesn't matter if you have a gun or not.
@1992jamo well no i wouldnt call the police because they wont get there in time as the average police officer takes 15 to 20 minutes to arrive at the scene thats if you have a mobile phone with you to call them, and yes i would shoot them i was threatened or another person was threatened with extreme violence, but you would prefer a person to be raped or very badly assaulted in the street or in their own homes though wouldnt you
@painsey A man robs a store to feed his family, boy am I glad you shot him. Any money stolen is covered by insurance anyway. And if someone has a gun and is attacking them, good luck saving them before they pull the trigger. And if you were threatened with a gun, you would be dead by the time you thought about pulling your gun out, taking the safety off, cocking it then firing. There is a reason people get trial.
@1992jamo last year 4 miles from me 2 men walked into a jewellery store they arched the husband and wife into back room forced them to open the safe by gun point (the robbers did not have a licence for the shotgun) they stole £50,000 in jewels and now the jewelly store owners can not get the money back from the insurance company due to some legal crap, the entire family are now in hiding from relatives of the robbers as they gave evidence in court, your argument is invalid.
@painsey An anecdote? Really? You are just throwing the fallacies left right and centre now. Not only is this a fallacy, it doesn't prove anything. They needed to open the safe to steal jewels from a shop that sells jewels? Anyway, Insurance does cover theft..
@painsey I can't say whether it happened or not, that's why anecdotes are fallacies.. I'm uneducated because I know that insurance covers theft? Okay..
@1992jamo also dont you realise the military is not to protect you, its for the protection of the government, so do you trust the government never to commit atrocities against us in the uk like hitler did to 12 million people? hitler disarmed the jews so he wouldnt have any threat with an armed jewish uprising, i bet they didnt tell you that in school in your history lesson did they, and btw you better get rid of all your kitchen knifes just in case someone gets murdered by you with one
You lying big nosed cunt, caught red fuckin handed, This copper is testament to how far these lying bastards will go. He lied his arse off then had to eat his lies after the video came out. How many people are doing time because these bastards lied?, How many people said the police lied and were not believed?, This copper should have his lying fuckin tounge cut out of his lying fucking mouth, followed by a red hot poker to stop the cunt bleeding on our floor. They make me sick.
This is ridiculous. That officer should be charged. Total blatent lies and caught out big time. The people he knows when out of uniform shall look differently to him now. Maybe just forget to add his name to their next function. Maybe jump into the nearest shop so as not to be seen associating with someone who would see our country and our people lorded over by the elite while we are treated like this! To other police who don't agree with this STAND UP AND BE HERE NOW!
the ipcc is hardly going to lock one of there own up heill get away with this the same that the killer of menenezes did its the police if it was me that was responsible for his death witnessed on tv i would probably be in jail now
Fuck the police, and fuck idiots who constantly stick up for them, by coming on my channel and calling me a loser. P.S. the word loser is not used in the UK often so could all American twats using this an insult, please go away. Your boring me!
The Met continues to lie about 7/7. Let's say you are running a drill of three bombs going off in the SAME three tube stations, at the SAME time, SAME day and SAME hour, and the exact SAME scenario happens! Do you think the police would investigate you for insider knowledge of the attacks. Sure the Police would, but not if you are Peter Power of Visor Consultants, the company running the
drill. By the way, Peter Power once worked for New Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT WE MONITOR ALL OF YOUR E MAILS NOW SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT VIDEOING MY OFFICERS OR TAKIEING PHOTOS IS NOW AN OFFENCE IN ITSELFE COMEING TO SOMETHING WHEN ONE OF MY OFFICERS IS INVOLVED IN A BIT OF ULTRA VIOLENCE AND IS THEN CAUGHT ON FILM,PROBABLY RUIN HIS CAREER YOU THOUGHTLESS BASTARDS,ANYWAY OFF TO SEE JAQU,SORRY THE HOME SECRETARY ABOUT A BIT OF DAMAGE LIMITATION sir paul stephenson,head of thugs r us
comeing from someone who is only 22 i wont take that too seriously as your just a young boy who knows fuck all.tell me though,why does the boy(thats you)think im a tool,and you might want to ask a grown up to help you with this
I checked with a ''grown up'' and yep, you're a tool. You can't even write properly and what you do write is utterly insensitive and complete nonsense.
good,i am glad you checked with a grown up.now as for writeing properley have got to say its been a long time since i was at school,37yrs in fact and i have a job that involves not haveing to write anything down at all so yes,its not perfect.what is insentitive about what i wrote down and in detail,what is there that is complete nonsence.and remember,check with a grown up before answering
Ah, sorry, I didn't realise having a job was a legitimate excuse for being illiterate. A quick check of your profile comments confirms that I'm not alone in my accusations so I don't really feel that it's worth pointing out your shortcomings anymore. As much as you disrespect me for being 'a boy' of 22, I just feel sorry for you because you're too old to learn any better now probably, can't teach an old dog new tricks and all that....
Fuckin' liar, let this be a lesson to all of you that the police will lie, cover up and stand in front of a camera and tell blatent lies about the murder of another human being. This policeman should be charged with perjury as we would. What an ass wipe, I do hope he looks in the mirror in the morning with pride and satisfaction that he is doing a good job. Ha ha no chance of that, what a scum bag!
Did anyone see the footage that channel 4 showed on there news the next evening after the Guardian put the first footage on there website? It was a croped version of the guardian footage, an exact copy with more pixilation and cropped at the edges with the actual contact of the Officer with Ian croped out.
They ran this footage as though it was the main footage of the incident as their second story after their main story of the Bob Quick 'blunder'. That's all a bit sanitised and spun really.
The Met continues to lie about 7/7. Let's say you are running a drill of three bombs going off in the SAME three tube stations, at the SAME time, SAME day and SAME hour, and the exact SAME scenario happens! Do you think the police would investigate you for insider knowledge of the attacks. Sure the Police would, but not if you are Peter Power of Visor Consultants, the company running the
drill. By the way, Peter Power once worked for New Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch.
the police attact a member of the public the very people they are supposed to protect they should be there for our protection instead it seems they are there to hurt us and should be feard this was an un provoked attact on an innocent man by a member of the police disgusting
The Met continues to lie about 7/7. Let's say you are running a drill of three bombs going off in the SAME three tube stations, at the SAME time, SAME day and SAME hour, and the exact SAME scenario happens! Do you think the police would investigate you for insider knowledge of the attacks. Sure the Police would, but not if you are Peter Power of Visor Consultants, the company running the
drill. By the way, Peter Power once worked for New Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch.
Good shout Brian. More people need to know about these drills of Peter Power who was interviewd on BBc Radio 5 Live and later on TV saying the same. Something very fishy about him and his drills or at least the company he was working for and wouldnt name PLUS the fact he has high police contacts and wasnt questioned
So the bad beastly protesters helped the poor guy when he collapsed after getting brutalised minutes earlier. No missiles, no aggro towards the coppers (but plenty coming from them.) Now that all the nastiness is out in the public eye they'll hold an "inquiry", what do you think the outcome of that will be?
Wait a bit bitches. This twat probably werent even there so who giv fuck give shit wot he got to say. Ah, the chap going home from work. BULLSHIT, that is obvioulsy bullshit. These scum tearing up my city cos they think they are on crusade. Please. Fucking police. and fucking demos. Investigate the cop. Get a job you scum. And middle class who came down cos they bored with the zoo, fok off.
Yeah supermac, Ian obviously had psycho - anarchist, smash the state, punk rocker student written all over him. Couldn't possibly be a newspaper seller, no way - I mean look at the way he was "tearing up the city", dangerous man that one. Now that's a real middle class job, selling papers that is.
So NOW you see it for yourself a complete fabrication of the facts utter lies from senior commanders at the top of our police forces. Selling their lies to the media.
Take back your country Occupy Everywhere Londons first force the Truth on them Thanks for putting this together nuff love.
UKSTREETNEWZ 3 months ago
Cop to the news cam: "Emmmm...yeah. He was already sick and doddering...yeah, THAT's the ticket!"
imacceptingbut 9 months ago
hope the lieing cop is brought to justice,but i wont hold my breath.
maplebanks 9 months ago
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Real policeing went out of the window years ago as it's all cctv, kettling, plastic police, cardboard police and arrest's for street drinking, fucking lunacy and interesting that the public for once has footage instead of the babylon always watching you.
££££££ and hope the family are pleased here and get what is deserved compensation wise or other.
Also that's a bit snide blaming Alcoholism for what happened to him. A fucking disgrace.
braitnicho 9 months ago
More lies told by hardwood in court today
portsanity 9 months ago
@portsanity He's also going for the Judy Garland award for tearful testimony.
Sliptodance 9 months ago
i fund police make good people bad. 90% police make false statement, so when people go to court they get charge,
jituhanif 9 months ago
@jituhanif "90% police make false statement"
True -- but its hard to criticise them for that because I would probably do exactly the same thing in there situations ( and doing security work we do
.. For instance we alway write "we used reasonable force" never " we have to choke the guy out because he refused to leave"
badpanda84 9 months ago
He describes being involved with the IPCC and that the IPCC is being informed. Today the inquest reports indicate that the IPCC subsequently relied on not having enough CCTV evidence for a case against the police, but the inquest is revealing that plenty of video evidence is available to the IPCC. Not a very independent Police Complaints Commission.
Sliptodance 9 months ago
@Sliptodance 100's of solicitors quit in protest a few years ago,saying the ipcc was corrupt and unfit for purpose.
portsanity 9 months ago
ive been to prison because the police lied,the assualted me and i beat em up and they said i assualted them first it was a lie ,i got 9 months for something i didnt start,kill all the cops!!!!
jewishmansjew 10 months ago
When we fear our government it no longer is a government but a tyrannical regime. Those lying pricks murdered an innocent man
whereismybinger 10 months ago
How horrible, poor IAN BULLIED BY POLICE CUNTSTABLE
truexposure 10 months ago
Can someone from the met tell me why that officer had to take that action against ian. because with all the media and exposure and video footage that copper should be charged with murder. I tell you what lets bring back the death penalty for anyone who commits murder.
MrPaulkoussoulos 10 months ago
Who precisely is the cunt faggot masked 4" dicked copper who murdered this poor bloke? Someone should find this piece of shit and settle his hash for good.....
jimmyboy8005 10 months ago
REVOLUTION
fuck the corrupt crooked system
s5027 11 months ago
awwww, dont u ever know how to get out of the way!
imports247 1 year ago
Who gives a fuck about the horrible twat anyway? He's a heroin addict isn't he?
trumpetbeek 1 year ago
@trumpetbeek your disgusting
lao752 1 year ago
Lying rat bastard pig. No wonder people hate cops. Makes me wonder why I stick up for them.
petertrast 1 year ago
@petertrast you shouldnt
vidarjens 1 year ago
@vidarjens Well, they are not all bad...
petertrast 1 year ago
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@petertrast THEY ARE NOT ALL GOOD EITHER! whats your point?
vidarjens 1 year ago
Welcome to the freedom of democracy...YOU ARE NOT FREE!!! WAKE UP!! you are being tricked...your protectors are shown as your enemies and your enemies sit as your masters! when will you wake up for goodness sake...
IIprotecttheinnocent 1 year ago
What a fucking sickening lie you left him to die you cunts.Shocking murder, this case blatantly outlines how out of control this corroupt private gang are. Common law was not upheld. RISE UP RISE UP It's time to get mad it's time to say no more FIGHTBACK MUST START NOW open your eyes and wake the fuck up, chuck you i-pad in the bin get real get mad say I'AM A HUMAN BEING I AM A HUMAN BEING Inform the deadhead subservients make them see . This case should wake up this once great land
zooboo55 1 year ago
LIAR fucking LIAR. this pig needs to be burnt.
Lronsjetpack 1 year ago
Police State UK !...The Chinese Government have called this Murder !..
freedombiteback 1 year ago
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goldie1ooo 1 year ago
no wonder a lot of people hate these corrupt bastard pigs, from now on if I ever saw a cop getting beaten to death I would not lift a finger to help him
MegaBilly52 1 year ago
We don't need more weapons! The more weapons that are in society, the more people will use them and the more people will get killed. All you have to do is look at all the killings that take place in American High Schools where teenagers with a grudge against society in general, get hold of weapons and go on a rampage killings loads of innocent people. It's LESS weapons that we need, not more! Also look at that thug Raoul whatshisname in England recently who had just got out of prison
sammycat2 1 year ago
@sammycat2 You are so naive. How many have died in American high schools compared to the THOUSANDS and thousands murdered on the street because they were UNARMED. You have let the liberal media trick you. If you are from America, read the Constitution and understand it. Read the founding fathers. If you disagree with THEM, move to a fascist country that prohibits weapons and try that for awhile. If you are NOT from America, you have no business commenting on America. Unarmed citizens are slaves.
petertrast 1 year ago
@sammycat2 You are so naive. How many have died in American high schools compared to the THOUSANDS and thousands murdered on the street because they were UNARMED. You have let the liberal media trick you. If you are from America, read the Constitution and understand it. Read the founding fathers. If you disagree with THEM, move to a fascist country that prohibits weapons and try that for awhile. If you are NOT from America, you have no business commenting on America. Unarmed citizens are slaves.
petertrast 1 year ago
i don't think the police should be charged with murder because the man gets up and walks away looking fine. Just because he dies of a heart-attack it does not have anything to to with the police pushing him over. It could have been an other reason.
GrandTrunkFilms 1 year ago
sucks for you brits that you guys cant have guns
man I dont how you guys live in england without weapons
Riddlerx333x 1 year ago
greasy fucking slimball cops
erockpatton 1 year ago
perjury is part of a police officer's job description.
personzorz 1 year ago
the police ar just bent a c a b
rambo4229 1 year ago
Trial for the polce?
1tusen2tusen3 1 year ago
beat the bastards
jodroboxes 1 year ago
Fucking pigs lie all the time.........cunts!
ggallinmoko123 1 year ago
fucking piggy caunt
sonikboy3 1 year ago
policy officers know no better
fivedinners 2 years ago
Can you imagine how many people have been fined or sent to prison on the lies that these cops tell. This is a senior officer trained in lying to the public. Notice how easy it is for him, The lies just roll out of his mouth and sound so convincing, Ask yourself this, if you had'nt seen the video of ian tomlinson, would you doubt a single word that comes out this trained liars mouth?. Imagine being in court for something you didnt do and he was giving evidence against you. You wouldnt have a hope
edwina22 2 years ago 14
@edwina22: Excellent comment.
Sub40H 1 year ago
this senior officer is a liar and should be sacked.
vindicari 2 years ago 2
isn't this lying pig in prison yet? How stupid are British people these days?
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago 2
Mate, I live in the UK and Half-British or so - and i can tell you that the people in power are some of the most stupid you will meet, in many ways.
Ginoitaliano 1 year ago
Until police are charged are charged and punished at the same rate as civilians who commit crimes against police, I cannot respect them.
Truthfully, they are complete scum to me and I'd rather their death than speak to them. Strangely though, I have not malice toward them while they are not in uniform. It is the symbol of their ill-conceived power that causes my blood to boil.
I freely admit that I'd rather them dead while in uniform than to look at them.
dirtyproduction 2 years ago 5
The Metropolitan police tried to run me over twice the same week my best friend was murdered in a hit and run which the police said was suicide. On repeated occasions they have warned me that I will be shot i.e. executed by them if I don't keep my mouth shut.
Presently they are engaging in an extra-judicial punishment and torture of somebody they know has a profound mental health problem
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago
Fuck U Simon O´Brien, may u die of the worst kind of cancer u filthy liar
eyestonex 2 years ago
Funny that Iranian media is not plagued by scenes like this. Looks like Western media is far more fanatic.
germanicus24 2 years ago
Results of third post mortem anybody? Media gagging order.
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago
this kind of shit happens all over the world, I live in America and it happens here. just know all policeman like that asshole, there time will come twice as hard. and when your time comes i hope it hurts so hard that when you walk away your fucking coward ass will collapse and die!!!! (" an eye for an eye")
paulrioss 2 years ago 5
im sorry paulrioss, as much as i hate cops i still gotta say, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
AndOutComeTheWolves1 2 years ago
its shit like dis dat makes me hope god exists so this cop can be judged properly not by some corrupt 1 sided court
sukyamoma2 2 years ago 4
Came under fire?!
This idiot thinks he s a real person and he s in Afganistan.
Maybe he should go there,on second thoughts he d be more of a danger to his own side.
Lying bastard.
seangrie8 2 years ago
These cops live somewhere, where? We need people to put names and addresses of cops judges magistrates on here for all to see. With the thought in mind that you are well known should be enough to kerb, your facist ways. We must act to get these animals under control.
edwina22 2 years ago 4
Fucking liars.
edwina22 2 years ago
lying bastards thank god for video cant bullshit there way outta this
darthdave666 2 years ago 2
lying fucking filth - and what happened to the results of the 3rd post mortem?
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago
Lying fuckers
Killerbabyseal 2 years ago
Thats what happens when you lie to the people, you good for nothing lying bastard,
edwina22 2 years ago
That's odd. He was attacked at 7:20 during the G20 riots... G is the 7th letter of the alphabet... coincidence? Of course it is.
musicmosaic7 2 years ago
You people keep saying ''OH THAT FAT FUCKING CUNT NEEDS TO BE JAILED... blablabla''. Well, instead of talking, why don't fucking do something about it? Those protesters should have jumped the policeman and taught him a lesson. Or, if you're non-violent, protest in the streets of London against POLICE in general. I know I would, but sadly, I don't live in London anymore.
VipericVampire 2 years ago
well go to london and protest if u feel so strongly
thewirrow 2 years ago
Why isn't this filth in prison for perverting the course of justice????
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago 2
because;
a. his a commander, ranks like him escape jail
and b. cause he is only talking on behalf of the police, he would never of been in situations dealing with public order
grysjay 2 years ago
But he is clearly lying, and he must know that he is lying - in order to cover up the unlawful killing of a civilian. Surely he should go down for at least 20 years?
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago 3
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grysjay 2 years ago
SO HEY THERE, COPER, READY TO CHANGE YOUR LIE YET??? I hope you feel like the ass hole you are you jerk. How much are those G20 cowards giving you????? You bloody MURDERER.
eyeOOsee 2 years ago 2
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EarlofLucan 2 years ago
It wasn't murder it was manslaugter obviously it is bad but it doesn't help to come across reactionary. The lack of definition may take away the crime that has taken place!
lovinglife123 2 years ago
The biggest crime, once again, is that the pig filth deliberately lied and misled the public over it, just as in the De Menez case. This is far, far bigger than the expenses row (sickening though that is, I simply don't know why the media aren't going to town over this.
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago 5
lovinglife123 , I agree that it should be man- slaughter I have read some comments saying that the police are baton trained and can execute a jab in the right place knowing it will cause hemorrage, which if that was the case then it could be premeditated murder. So i wouldnt rule it out. On the other side of the coin i dont suppose it will ever matter what it was, Im sure we all know where this is headed, YES UNDER THAT GREAT BIG CARPET ALONG WITH THE REST OF THEM.
edwina22 2 years ago
murder murder murder murder murdering pigs
theblob34 2 years ago
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The IPCC are a waste of time!
They are biased in favour of the police & equally as corrupt...I know through personal experience of the worthless & ineffectual corrupt IPCC.
thepinkpasty 2 years ago 3
died of internal bleeding - clear case of murder.
Vegasoon 2 years ago
I would advise every British person here criticizing the police to be very careful and to thinking about just backing off now.
Not that these out of control murderers don't deserve criticism. In fact these murderers and liers deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison. I'm just saying that if you value your life, it's best just to learn to accept that these things happen under ZanuLabor.
kensingtonkarma 2 years ago 2
Wat do expect from a police "service" dat has lied about crime in London for years. Crime is falling dey say. Pull d other one it's got bells on it. The cops actually fail to record crime & dat is how d figures have been made to fall over d past few years. Oh! & d fact dat many people now have given up reporting crime because nothing ever happens to deal with it. Cops sitting in vans in d West End waiting for crime to happen whilst in East London dare r not enought cops 2go round.
littlebigbrain 2 years ago 3
That was murder pure and simple,
edwina22 2 years ago 21
this is why we need weapons
ukninjawarrior 2 years ago 12
@ukninjawarrior You are joking? Would you feel safe walking through a town at night with retards walking about with guns?
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo i was the ukninjawarrior as this account fucked up for some reason, yes having a firearm would make you safer and having firearms would make the government think before they piss us off
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey Having a firearm means you are much more likely to get shot. No thanks! And if we had firearms, it means that riots would be settled by the army instead. Personally I don't think that I'd want to be in a riot where people have guns, because people would get shot.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo whatare you talking about? if the uk law abiding population of the uk had firearms then the law abiding people would be able to protect themselves from being raped, mugged and murdered unless you would prefer victims to be unarmed and the criminals armed, you say ppl shouldn't have guns but i dont see you saying that the government shouldnt be protected by body guards with firearms. I see your on the anti self defence bandwagon dont you know criminals love your way of thinking?
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey If we had guns so would the people trying to rape, mug and murder us. Don't you know criminals love the idea of getting hold of guns easily? Not to mention its hard to use a gun on somebody if they are already pointing it at you. And yes, call me naive, but I do have trust in my government not to kill millions of its citizens.. Sounds to me like you are scared.
What makes you think I wasn't aware of Everybody in Germany being disarmed? And an analogy between a tool and a weapon? Really?
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo and how exactly would a criminal be able to hold a firearm licence when they have a criminal record? and dont say something like "oh the guy with the gun licence breaking the law might not have a criminal record" because a person trying to rape someone would already have a criminal record so he could not have a firearms licence in the first place, ppl in germany trusted hitler not to murder them and he killed 12 million+ ppl, you really are foolish to think (cont)
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey Now it's getting hilarious. The unlawful would obtain weapons in (Get this, its a shocker) Unlawful ways! However, you're wrong, they might not have a criminal record. I doubt ALL criminals have been their entire lives. Hitler disarmed the population, even if we had firearms; if the government wanted to commit genocide they would disarm our population first anyway.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo your so deluded, your saying a person with no convictions would go out and commit a violent crime as his first ever offence? you have the brain of a clam, why do you think the english dictators want the populace fully disarmed? its so there would be no threat against them when the one party ruling comes into effect, the con/dem party is just the beginning for a one party uk system
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey No, retard; I'm suggesting they might not get caught. 'why do you think the english dictators want the populace fully disarmed? its so there would be no threat against them when the one party ruling comes into effect, the con/dem party is just the beginning for a one party uk system' That has got to be the most deluded and paranoid thing I have ever heard someone suggest seriously. No wonder you are so scared you want a gun!
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo i notice you say the words might not get caught and not will get caught. Your talking about be being scared? let me tell you this truth "slaves dont have weapons" i say again give me the info on that very questionable website you gave me as in who put the site up online, and i see your still thinking the government and the police care about you when the video on this youtube page clearly shows that is not the case, your gonna be a very good slave as you are supporting the police.
painsey 11 months ago
The government and police are us. Of course I don't support the actions in this video, but its not as if that represents all police. And what would happen if we had guns?? I guess there would be a shit load more deaths.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo they are us? lmfao, when has the governemt evey cared about the ppl or let us have a say on laws? and if we the law abiding people had firearms like in the USA there would be far less violent crime, as when was the last time you have heard of a criminal saying he (the criminal) would stay safe to carry out his crime? its simple logic criminals prefer their victims to be unarmed, its a simple fact deal with it.
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey Are they thinking logically when they commit a violent crime..? And I have to say having a gun does make violent crime a lot more easy..
1992jamo 11 months ago
@painsey Yes, believe it or not, police and politicians are people, you probably were friends with some at school. Are criminals really thinking logically when they commit a violent crime..? And I have to say having a gun does make violent crime a lot more easy..
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo are they really our friends? yeah go say that to the relatives or Ian Tomlison, yeah i once worked with a guy who becomes a government hires thug aka police officer, he was and still is the biggest asshole i have ever known. i see you have not still not said how many ppl in the USA have stopped a serious crime while using a legally held firearm, well i suppose you dont wanna loose your flawed argument now do you or shall i do a video for you on youtube giving you some needed education?
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey Another anecdote??!! This is amazing!
All police are against us because a very small minority of them abuse their power?. Right.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo the police force as a whole gets away with murder everyday, i wonder what would happen if a police officer shot a burgular found in the same palace/castle as the queen, the police force abuse their powers everyday, wake up
painsey 11 months ago
@1992jamo the Swiss are twice as much armed than Americans with more guns per population (fact) but you ppl on the anti gun ownership bandwagon dont use facts do you, you ppl just get your info from idiots like the uk gun control network who believe you can convert air guns to fire live bullets and btw the swiss have very low crime and they are more armed than the USA
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey Ooh what a lovely strawman you have just made! You know me so well you can tell me I think those things and then argue against it? Not to mention the statistics I talked about earlier. Switzerland's population is about 6 million, it would be surprising to see huge crime rates. Admittedly its gun crime rate isn't high either; however gun crime rates are statically much much higher on average in countries that actually have them.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo strawman argument= a word when the person says the word strawman has lost an argument. i was talking about the population per 1000 who have firearms. in other words as the swiss are armed 1.5 times higher than the Americans then you should have crime at 1.5 times higher in Switzerland
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey I was suggesting that you telling me: "I don't use facts, and I get my info from the 'uk gun control network' and believing air guns can be converted into real guns" is a strawman because you have asserted it from no evidence then used it against me.
I realise what you said, and I agreed they have low gun crime rate, but on average there is loads more gun crime in countries where people can get them easily. I also appreciate that you were talking about an percentage.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo countries that have high gun crime like in south africa have very strict laws governing firearms, the criminals get firearms but law abiding people can not have hand guns, the criminals know this and that is why there are high amounts of gun crime in countries like that, just like here in the uk, law abiding ppl here in the uk cant have a handgun but thats no problem for criminals as they get them illegally so much for the uk ban on hand guns. But dont let that ruin your argument
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey In south Africa, if you want a hang gun, you can get a licence. If not, you can still get one.
Ruin my argument? Maybe if it was in anyway easy to get guns or ammunition in the UK. But it isn't. What % of violent criminals in the UK actually have guns? Very difficult and Very expensive. Not many of our robbers, thieves and muggers have enough money for them..otherwise they wouldn't be stealing in the first place.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo it is very difficult to own a gun in south africa as that government made them so expensive that it has banned them by the back door, and you ask what % of crimes here have involved handguns the answer is 87% (source F.B.I. database) also you uneducated comment about thieves having money is debunked as it doesn't make sense with what your saying
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey F.B.I? Really? The F.B.I? Yeah..
Anyway, 87% of crime in our country involves handguns? Really? Who the fuck are you trying to convince? And even if it was true (which it isn't) wouldn't that be the most sound argument saying that guns are bad?
Your made up statistic does not debunk anything, except if somebody had a theory you are intelligent.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo guns are bad? yeah sure the same thing could be said that cameras are bad as they allow people to take photos of children for child molesters would you also say cameras should be banned to? and now your saying the F.B.I. are making up lies okaaaaaaaaaay, like i said i have researched firearm crime for the last 25 yrs i think i know what im talking about, and btw gun crime has risen 87% since the 1997 handgun ban came into force, hasnt worked has it.
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey What a fantastic analogy again! A gun has little purpose, to kill or maim (a weapon which is not a tool). A camera can be used for art and preserving memories.
My doubts were not in the F.B.I, but in that you have this data from them. Why would the FBI have this info? And you didn't say increase, you said 'what % of crimes here have involved handguns the answer is 87%'
The ban in 1997 got rid of 22. cal or smaller. Hardly a huge change which could be correlated directly to the ban.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo oh here we go your using the apple and pear argument, if you are correct in this ideology that you have by definition i should be able to own 10 ton of gun powder as gun powder was invented by the chinese for signaling the troops, right? i see your blaming the tool and not the person. The F.B.I. keep records from around the world for research and reference data reasons, also the tory government before 1997 banned weapons above .22 calibre and then labour banned handguns after 1997
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey I would okay with legalising gun powder, if someone wants to make an explosive they could do it cheaper and more potent than gunpowder in their back gardens.. Not to mention the other uses of it.
If you look on nationmaster and go graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms you'll see we have 14 murders with guns. When dealing with such small numbers 87% doesn't mean much. Lets have a look at America, 9,369 murders with guns that's 669x more while the population is only 5x bigger.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo i think i shall do a video on this as i dont have enough characters to type an answer, stay tuned to my channel today, i shall do the video soon today.
painsey 11 months ago
@1992jamo that the uk government would never do the same thing as they have already in northern Ireland in the 1970's, trust me i know what im talking about when it comes to this debate, i have studied firearm ownership worldwide for over 25 yrs and every were that firearms are legally owned there is a very low crime rate in that area 22,000 deaths in the USA with firearms but 2.5 / 3 million crimes stopped by ppl in the USA with legally held firearms (source the F.B.I. data base)
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey @painsey go on, nationmaster (it's a website) and look at the murder rates for different countries.
8 of the top 10 country's you can get firearms easily.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo so a criminal can walk into a gun store and purchase a firearm after just being released form prison then? you fail
painsey 11 months ago
@1992jamo and what body is in charge on that website? how many law abiding people in the USA with a firearms licence has used their firearms for crimes? and how many people have used a legally held firearm to stop crimes?
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey How many 'LAW ABIDING' people commit 'CRIMES' with their firearms? Even a 3 year old could see the problem with that question. Put yourself in a situation where you are going to stop a crime (Like in the movies LOL) A guy has a gun pointed at you.. you can't do anything. You watch another crime take place, you point your gun, he already has his out too, you point at each other... what now? shoot each other and die? But you wouldn't have this problem if he didn't have a gun..
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo oh i see so a criminal is going to point a gun at you even before you go over to stop the crime, okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey What are you going to do? shoot them? Oh just threaten them and call the police? I'm sure you'd feel so vindicated if they turned around and you had to shoot them.. How would you feel safe with guns everywhere? If someone wants to attack you, they have a gun; It doesn't matter if you have a gun or not.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo well no i wouldnt call the police because they wont get there in time as the average police officer takes 15 to 20 minutes to arrive at the scene thats if you have a mobile phone with you to call them, and yes i would shoot them i was threatened or another person was threatened with extreme violence, but you would prefer a person to be raped or very badly assaulted in the street or in their own homes though wouldnt you
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey A man robs a store to feed his family, boy am I glad you shot him. Any money stolen is covered by insurance anyway. And if someone has a gun and is attacking them, good luck saving them before they pull the trigger. And if you were threatened with a gun, you would be dead by the time you thought about pulling your gun out, taking the safety off, cocking it then firing. There is a reason people get trial.
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo last year 4 miles from me 2 men walked into a jewellery store they arched the husband and wife into back room forced them to open the safe by gun point (the robbers did not have a licence for the shotgun) they stole £50,000 in jewels and now the jewelly store owners can not get the money back from the insurance company due to some legal crap, the entire family are now in hiding from relatives of the robbers as they gave evidence in court, your argument is invalid.
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey An anecdote? Really? You are just throwing the fallacies left right and centre now. Not only is this a fallacy, it doesn't prove anything. They needed to open the safe to steal jewels from a shop that sells jewels? Anyway, Insurance does cover theft..
1992jamo 11 months ago
@1992jamo oh right so your saying it didnt happen then? they can not get the money back through the insurance company your so uneducated
painsey 11 months ago
@painsey I can't say whether it happened or not, that's why anecdotes are fallacies.. I'm uneducated because I know that insurance covers theft? Okay..
1992jamo 11 months ago
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@1992jamo i am telling you they will not get their £50,000 back
pccrybabyhater1 11 months ago
@1992jamo i am telling you they will not get their £50,000 back due to the fact they cant prove that £50,000 was stolen
painsey 11 months ago
@1992jamo also dont you realise the military is not to protect you, its for the protection of the government, so do you trust the government never to commit atrocities against us in the uk like hitler did to 12 million people? hitler disarmed the jews so he wouldnt have any threat with an armed jewish uprising, i bet they didnt tell you that in school in your history lesson did they, and btw you better get rid of all your kitchen knifes just in case someone gets murdered by you with one
painsey 11 months ago
the pigs should not get away wif that the fucking dick heads!!!!!
ste257 2 years ago
the police will get away with it....as they always do
dirtytrickss 2 years ago
You lying big nosed cunt, caught red fuckin handed, This copper is testament to how far these lying bastards will go. He lied his arse off then had to eat his lies after the video came out. How many people are doing time because these bastards lied?, How many people said the police lied and were not believed?, This copper should have his lying fuckin tounge cut out of his lying fucking mouth, followed by a red hot poker to stop the cunt bleeding on our floor. They make me sick.
edwina22 2 years ago 3
can someone tell me have i missed something
has the results from the third post mortem been released???
fishbone342 2 years ago
This is a disgrace and the spokesman should be charged with obstructing justice.What a blantant lie!
lovinglife123 2 years ago
How could I ever trust the words of any British Police Officer ever again?
Ian Tomlinson RIP
yourcamden 2 years ago 3
This kinda thing happens in America every day
seestickglue232 2 years ago
This is ridiculous. That officer should be charged. Total blatent lies and caught out big time. The people he knows when out of uniform shall look differently to him now. Maybe just forget to add his name to their next function. Maybe jump into the nearest shop so as not to be seen associating with someone who would see our country and our people lorded over by the elite while we are treated like this! To other police who don't agree with this STAND UP AND BE HERE NOW!
love and light
bicarb69 2 years ago
the ipcc is hardly going to lock one of there own up heill get away with this the same that the killer of menenezes did its the police if it was me that was responsible for his death witnessed on tv i would probably be in jail now
copkillauk 2 years ago
Fuck the police, and fuck idiots who constantly stick up for them, by coming on my channel and calling me a loser. P.S. the word loser is not used in the UK often so could all American twats using this an insult, please go away. Your boring me!
KissMyAssSellOut 2 years ago 2
Cock
trumpetbeek 2 years ago
Tit
KissMyAssSellOut 2 years ago
The mobile phone has revolutionised the world.
Sadly, we've lost our police force. The days of the old beat bobby image has gone.
To the Police a public protest is an abomination and should be stamped out. They don't care for democracy or freedom of speech anymore.
Once they put that uniform on, especially the riot gear, it turns them from good, honest family men into stormtroopers armed with batons.
nacho1560 2 years ago
The camera is the best weapon we have in the UK.
TAKE ONE EVERYWHERE!
poodle559 2 years ago
The Met continues to lie about 7/7. Let's say you are running a drill of three bombs going off in the SAME three tube stations, at the SAME time, SAME day and SAME hour, and the exact SAME scenario happens! Do you think the police would investigate you for insider knowledge of the attacks. Sure the Police would, but not if you are Peter Power of Visor Consultants, the company running the
drill. By the way, Peter Power once worked for New Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch.
brian78045 2 years ago
Read the article, "Remember Remember The Seventh Of July", at DNotice (org) for more on the 7/7 attacks.
brian78045 2 years ago
this is y honest citizens hate the police
richardcadbury 2 years ago
they need to be bought to justice
sTaNdUp41 2 years ago
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT WE MONITOR ALL OF YOUR E MAILS NOW SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT VIDEOING MY OFFICERS OR TAKIEING PHOTOS IS NOW AN OFFENCE IN ITSELFE COMEING TO SOMETHING WHEN ONE OF MY OFFICERS IS INVOLVED IN A BIT OF ULTRA VIOLENCE AND IS THEN CAUGHT ON FILM,PROBABLY RUIN HIS CAREER YOU THOUGHTLESS BASTARDS,ANYWAY OFF TO SEE JAQU,SORRY THE HOME SECRETARY ABOUT A BIT OF DAMAGE LIMITATION sir paul stephenson,head of thugs r us
bittenof 2 years ago
bittenof:
Fuck off idiot
oversight1984 2 years ago
You are such a complete and utter tool.
Chivas6 2 years ago
comeing from someone who is only 22 i wont take that too seriously as your just a young boy who knows fuck all.tell me though,why does the boy(thats you)think im a tool,and you might want to ask a grown up to help you with this
bittenof 2 years ago
I checked with a ''grown up'' and yep, you're a tool. You can't even write properly and what you do write is utterly insensitive and complete nonsense.
Chivas6 2 years ago
good,i am glad you checked with a grown up.now as for writeing properley have got to say its been a long time since i was at school,37yrs in fact and i have a job that involves not haveing to write anything down at all so yes,its not perfect.what is insentitive about what i wrote down and in detail,what is there that is complete nonsence.and remember,check with a grown up before answering
bittenof 2 years ago
Ah, sorry, I didn't realise having a job was a legitimate excuse for being illiterate. A quick check of your profile comments confirms that I'm not alone in my accusations so I don't really feel that it's worth pointing out your shortcomings anymore. As much as you disrespect me for being 'a boy' of 22, I just feel sorry for you because you're too old to learn any better now probably, can't teach an old dog new tricks and all that....
Chivas6 2 years ago
Its incredible how he can blatently lie like he does.
edwina22 2 years ago
Fuckin' liar, let this be a lesson to all of you that the police will lie, cover up and stand in front of a camera and tell blatent lies about the murder of another human being. This policeman should be charged with perjury as we would. What an ass wipe, I do hope he looks in the mirror in the morning with pride and satisfaction that he is doing a good job. Ha ha no chance of that, what a scum bag!
yogihaughton 2 years ago 2
Did anyone see the footage that channel 4 showed on there news the next evening after the Guardian put the first footage on there website? It was a croped version of the guardian footage, an exact copy with more pixilation and cropped at the edges with the actual contact of the Officer with Ian croped out.
They ran this footage as though it was the main footage of the incident as their second story after their main story of the Bob Quick 'blunder'. That's all a bit sanitised and spun really.
superstitionadd 2 years ago
This man has no respect. He calls the family 'the dead persons family'. Its surely more sensible and respectful to use a word like deseased.
naythCC 2 years ago
The Met continues to lie about 7/7. Let's say you are running a drill of three bombs going off in the SAME three tube stations, at the SAME time, SAME day and SAME hour, and the exact SAME scenario happens! Do you think the police would investigate you for insider knowledge of the attacks. Sure the Police would, but not if you are Peter Power of Visor Consultants, the company running the
drill. By the way, Peter Power once worked for New Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch.
brian78045 2 years ago
Read the article, "Remember Remember The Seventh Of July", at DNotice (org) for more on the 7/7 attacks.
brian78045 2 years ago
I hope they hang the lying foooking pigs
bluemelsteve 2 years ago
LYING DIRTY FILTHY PIG
m83txn 2 years ago 2
FILM THE POLICE EVEN MORE NOW.
m83txn 2 years ago 2
the police attact a member of the public the very people they are supposed to protect they should be there for our protection instead it seems they are there to hurt us and should be feard this was an un provoked attact on an innocent man by a member of the police disgusting
curvygirl1123 2 years ago 2
poor guy. all he did was try to get home from work.
checkunderyourbed 2 years ago 3
the pigs lied about menezes too.
MyMelancholyDodo 2 years ago
The Met continues to lie about 7/7. Let's say you are running a drill of three bombs going off in the SAME three tube stations, at the SAME time, SAME day and SAME hour, and the exact SAME scenario happens! Do you think the police would investigate you for insider knowledge of the attacks. Sure the Police would, but not if you are Peter Power of Visor Consultants, the company running the
drill. By the way, Peter Power once worked for New Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch.
brian78045 2 years ago
Read the article, "Remember Remember The Seventh Of July", at DNotice (org) for more on the 7/7 attacks.
brian78045 2 years ago
Good shout Brian. More people need to know about these drills of Peter Power who was interviewd on BBc Radio 5 Live and later on TV saying the same. Something very fishy about him and his drills or at least the company he was working for and wouldnt name PLUS the fact he has high police contacts and wasnt questioned
fish5133 2 years ago
So the bad beastly protesters helped the poor guy when he collapsed after getting brutalised minutes earlier. No missiles, no aggro towards the coppers (but plenty coming from them.) Now that all the nastiness is out in the public eye they'll hold an "inquiry", what do you think the outcome of that will be?
Jacksonstreet71 2 years ago 2
Wait a bit bitches. This twat probably werent even there so who giv fuck give shit wot he got to say. Ah, the chap going home from work. BULLSHIT, that is obvioulsy bullshit. These scum tearing up my city cos they think they are on crusade. Please. Fucking police. and fucking demos. Investigate the cop. Get a job you scum. And middle class who came down cos they bored with the zoo, fok off.
supermacflypaddy 2 years ago
Yeah supermac, Ian obviously had psycho - anarchist, smash the state, punk rocker student written all over him. Couldn't possibly be a newspaper seller, no way - I mean look at the way he was "tearing up the city", dangerous man that one. Now that's a real middle class job, selling papers that is.
Jacksonstreet71 2 years ago 4
Regardless asshole, he wasn't threatening the police in any manner that justified them clubbing and tackling him.
Hardwyre 2 years ago 3
LIAR!
Vinseneb 2 years ago