Look you bunch of muppets. I have owned BOTH of these cars ok. A stock 335d is slow. A tuned, circa 350bhp 335d is fast, and a bit faster than an M3.
Most of you muppets don't know the difference between torque and power anyway, so stop trying to get all technical. God I hate these constant my car's better than your's videos... yawn
Not a very well tuned 335d, unless there is something wrong with it, or the e36 is highly tuned. A properly tuned 335d will keep up with an e90 m3. A standard 335d will easily beat an e36 evo m3.
hahahah stupid fool with stupid old money eating e36 m 3 noob. My 535d would not only overtake you but fucking destroy your old m3. And you can polish your tires if you want and change all components in engine and still you will be back... Dude you are an retard if you think what you recorded is reality. For your info The way you pulled on BMW in this Video is AM DB9 420hp gone from me... So what does that tell you... or you are fast as AM DB9 little noob.
Due you dont get it I do not know what is with that 535d, did you check idiot ? Mabye was 525d tuned with emblem 535d... Which part of 535d chipped ownez e46 m3, not your old e36 m3 omfg....
Accept it and dont write such bull shit... So your m3 goes 300 ? I can answer you it goes realisitic 270 max if you tune every shit in it, when 535d tunned goes 300 on gps...
Wat ik appart vind aan dit filmpje, mijn maat heeft een E46 M3. Ik een E92 335D touring. Wij hebben dit vaak gedaan en de Diesel doet zeker niet onder voor de M3. Mijn mening is dat die touring veel te hoog in toeren anders kan je het echt vergeten.
Misschien als je b.v. vanaf 60 gaat starten dat de 335d meer kans maakt. Wij hebben het meerdere malen
geprobeerd, meestal vanaf 100. De ene keer in automaat stand, maar meestal op de hand zodat de bak niet gaat schakelen als het niet wilt bij de start. Je ziet overigens de 335d flink omhoog uit de veren gaan bij de start, dus er gebeurd echt wel wat ;)
@imfuctifino And you clearly don't understand how power and torque relate to performance. If peak torque determined performance, the Veyron would undoubtedly be a Diesel.
That last bit was called 'logic'. Try it some time.
@BigGee84 We are going to go round in circles here ... Audi R10 , 3 times winner of the le mans 24 hour.. diesel , If the R10 couldnt hold it's own it wouldn't win and it still wins even when they apply weight handicap your.... 'logic' just failed
@imfuctifino What, and you think that's down to its 'torque'? Or do you think perhaps it has more to do with Le Mans being an ENDURANCE race and the R10 requiring fewer refuels?
@imfuctifino The torque only really helps from a standstill. Once your moving, horsepower/KW is the major factor.
Also keep in mind, with this comparison, the M3 will rev to about 7200 rpm and the 335d about 5500-6000(?), so keeping in gear and having constant power, as opposed to changing gear and having the slight power lapse, will help. As will less weight and a manual gear box in the M3, as opposed to an (assumed) automatic in the 335d.
rein theoretisch müsste der 335d gewinnen der alte m3 e46 kann sich mit einem guten getunten 335d nicht messen,gut der touring wiegt mehr wie z.b. ne limo oder coupe trotzdem....
@ErikT595 no ! i saw a 535d ( which is heavier than a bmw 335d!) against a m3 e39 and the 535d killed it , but the 535d was tuned and had about 350 hp
Diesels only rule if you pull in the same gear, where the superior torque works in its favour. The E36, E46 M3's pull to 7,500 - 8,000 revs & i used to eat diesels in my E36 M3 @ 321 bhp + never got outrun by any evo or scooby etc
@LEBONSKIFINARM Wow! then you are a more superior human and we must bow down to your exceptional knowledge and experience. "ALL HAIL KING LEBONSKIFINARM!". You are king of the road, a real-life Vin Diesel (No pun intended). you are indeed better than everyone because you beat some guy in a diesel. Chicks will love you, men will want to simply hang out close to you just to get a sniff of success. You are indeed the man of all men!.....I salute you!
i have a 335d and its just way better than a m3. i had one of them and sold it for the 335d. you may think it is shit because its a diesel, i thought that, but m3 is not as good
Torque better for scaring your passengers. You can cruise around at 40mph at 1.5k rpm, then suddenly put your foot down and with NO WARNING they are hit with 600N/M torque at around 1.7k rpm. Thats gonna hit your very hard against your headrest lol.
In an 2009 M5 you have the rev range to get through before maximum pull, and even then it only has 400nm torque, which is pathetic.
Interesting vid, although, that's an E46 M3 with 343BHP. I've got an E46 and am gonna sell it to buy a 335D. You can now chip 335Ds up to 350BHP, 700NM. Although, the key point here is the torque curve which is VERY flat on turbocharged engines and will likely beat an E46 M3 due to the M3 needing 8000RPM to generate maximum power. The 335D gains max power very early on and the auto box makes maximum use of the torque available. Like someone else said, 50mpg (maybe a bit optimistic!)
@peaps Yeah, de there are diferent remaps, one more agressive than the others, this one in particular shouldn't be a lot powerfull.
The torque curve is getting more flat because they use twin turbos, wich reduce the turbolag a lot, but you still get better torque curve with the petrol version like the 335i, because in higher rpm, the diesels loose theyr power because diesel burns slower than petrol. But for everyday use the lower torque band of the diesel is nice, and 50mpg can be done i think
@NarishmaJr M3 is much ligther and more powerfull, how can it not be faster? and throw in some corners and you will see how the fat diesel starts to trail even more
@weed46 M3 = 1570Kg. 335D = 1655Kg. Not really that much heavier. Also not MUCH more powerful either. I imagine the 335D in this vid had a poor map applied to it.
@peaps This is an E36 M3, 1515kg, and that is an 335d TOURING wich has 1720kg, official info from BMW, that's a massive 205kg. if the 335d was stock the M3 would have 35hp more, and tha'ts a lot for a car 15years old, with no turbos, the 335d has 2 turbos. If you want fuel economy, the 335d does great, if you want ot go fast and can't a ford an M3, just buy the 335, is lighter, is faster, more reliable, and sounds so much better.
@weed46 Ok, yeah sorry I take it back I see it's an E36 now. Just looked very similar to an E46 inside, but yeah, point taken. There's another video on YT of a 335D (remapped) at Santa Pod vs a stock E46 M3, and the D obliterates the M3. So, maybe this particular D had a weaker map?
Erik , There is NO WAY that is a tuned 335D. I have one & it EATS E36/E46 M3's .Evolve are THE people to tune a 335D .FFS I can sit with a E92 M3 up to 120mph . ps : I also can get 50 to the gallon .
I've seen the dyno graph of this 335d, it has been on a good dyno. I Know because my car has been there to. This 335d touring came on 320hp/680Nm. I've also raced a tuned 535d (see my other movies) That car had 350hp/710Nm. I don't know why MY M3 is that quick. My M3 also eats M3 e46's (see my other movies also) Kind Regards, Erik
@mexicomark 335d eating M3's? not even the M3 e36 3.0... M3's run very close with the 335i, and the 335i despite only 20hp difference, eats the 335d by miles, is way lighter
sorry , but 335d tuned would tear that M3 apart ( assuming that was std) .. not only an e36 but a e46 too, the guy must have been in the wrong gear .. oddly probably too low gear. You can achieve nearly 700nM of tourque and around 330 bhp by tuning the 335d and probably more . If the guy was in sport mode and revs were about 2k , then bye bye M3. For what it's worth i reckon the bloke got a tuned 320d
We've tryed it several times, and each time the 335d lost, i've also raced a tuned 535d (350hp/710Nm)and won that too, see my other movies. I've also seen the dyno graph of this tuned 335d, so it's proved that it is tuned 320hp/680Nm. It also had a good torque graph.
The hill will have virtually no affect on the 335d. Not so sure about an M5. Of course it will still be fast. I'd expect the 335d to atleast get ahead at some stage.
Your E36 must be highly tuned , your 3.2 engine is 316 bhp. A tuned 335d will have nearly double the torque of e36,
We all know torque counts more than bhp when bhp between cars are similar.
The guy in the 335d must be revving too high when you start the race. He must try to be reving at maybe 1800 rpm and let the torque pull the car. He must also change gear early too. The power is going by 4k rpm. He needs to drive where the power is which is low down the rev range.1500 - 4000 max.
@BigGee84 I own a stock 2009 335D sport...having the revs right makes a huge difference...all the power is at 1700-3500 rpms...it starts to fade above that due to the dynamics of a diesel engine. Sometimes I feel as if I get better pull when pressing the throttle 3/4 instead of flooring it for this same reason...rolling start from 60 mph where the D is already near peak torque rpm range is a big dusadvantage for the D, roll from 40 or less and forget about it, the D wins
I don't agree, I had 135i tuned by Vishnu around 370HP. I tryed with M3 e36 a lot times, with stock 306hp 135i was much slower then M3, with Vishnu ON it was little bit faster then E36.
335d even with chip is about the same fast as stock 335i or 135i
@imfuctifino spend the same money on an E36 m3 as a 535d + any chipping and you would have a seriously seriously quick car. The M3 is made to be quick, the 535d is made to efficiently and comfortably get to the shops and back.
"sorry , but 335d tuned would tear that M3 apart "
Don't be silly. The car with the greatest power to weight would win regardless. Given the 335d's extra weight, it would need a significant power advantage to stay with the M3, let alone beat it.
@imfuctifino You seem to be completely ignoring the fact the E46 M3 weighs 300kg less than the 335d touring. It might be down 10-15hp but it's up massively hp/weight.
my 535D is faster than this my fried, it has 365 hp 720nm, and top speed of 293++ so your m3 dont have a chance to mine 535D 0-100 5.1 sec not even a e46 m3 dos 0-100 in 5.1 sec
Option and hp engine can change in all different party in the world. My best friend have a 335D with 300 hp origin, possible it's a modification of the garage.
That's no longer true as they are now alloy blocks the same as petrol engines.
The reason they used to be stronger is that they were using iron blocks when petrol engines had moved to alloy, but the disadvantage of this was that the iron block is much heavier.
Diesel engine run a higher compression ratio that petrol, so if anything I'd imagine they wouldn't last as long given the same alloy block.
if that diesel had 320hp and 680 nm trq....u would not have a chance m8...thrust me not even slightley i don't think that car is tuned in anyway it's just plain old stock
280HP and 370Nm vs. 321HP and 350Nn!!! Are you are sure that you can beat M3 Evo? 328 yes if's gonna bite the dust, M3 (286HP) maybe but Evo I don't think so. I'll smoke you wihout using 6th gear.
The best part about this though is that even though the E36 M3 walked all over it, the 335d is still getting over 30mpg in that run. Highway crusing BMW claims you'll be getting 41.5 MPG.
(According to April 2008 BMWCAR)The M3's fuel consumption it's in the teens at best in that run.
Hey EriK, haven't seen this vid before! I have to say though, there is no way you will pull on a tuned 335d like this in anything. My Volvo 850 T5 is tuned and will outrun a Euro-spec M3 Evo from a 40mph rolling start. However, recently I tried to out run a 330d on the motorway and I couldn't get away for all my trying let alone leave him for dead like you did in this video.
The 335d has so much mid-range it's unbelieveablere. there is just no way that car is a tuned 335d
All I can say is you must have been going very slow when you both put your foot down. A rolling start from 60 or 70 mph and a 335d would take you down for sure
Ok than duude!!! I can't understand guys like you, when you see a brand new diesel with very good specs get smoked by any older sport car the relpy's are "this is not possible" or "it's not tuned up" and bla bla bla. Okay its tuned, it's fast but its is a crappy diesel against one of the best cars BMW ever made E36 M3 Evo! An E36 M3 Evo in good condition and low mileage is killing a lot of modern cars like E46 M3 even with SMG (Erik knows best :D :D :D) I drove E36 M3 Evo too. And i'll smoke
Hey, I hate diesels and virtually all modern cars more than anyone! But I also i know that a car with twice the torque isn't going to get left for dead by a car with half the torque!
And as much as I hate these diesels our UK traffic officers use the 335d and 535d and they use them to catch all sorts of speeding motorists. Of course they lack low speed acceleration but get them going and they are really really fast especially the tuned ones!
Okay!!! I agree the 335d and 535d are better than E36 M3 Evo, E46 M3, E92 M3 infact they are faster then Ferarri Enzo and even bugatti veyron :D :D :D.
I can't understand BMW!! They are so stupid.....must cancel all the M cars (M3,M5,M6) and the ultimate sport cars must be 335d and 535d. Oh I forgot they must be tuned up with powerboxes and chips to catch up TURBO HAYABUSA'S :D :D :D Believe me my mate I'll kill every fucking 535d and 335d with my M3 Evo!!!
Don't be such a drama queen! How often do police come up against Veyrons and Enzo's that fail to stop? When I said all sorts of speeding motorists I didn't mean it can keep up with literally anything.
Well as i've said before, a 335d (possibly tuned I've no idea) did a very good job of keeping me in sight at high speed and i've managed to outrun M3 evo's in my car
1996 Volvo 850 T5 custom ECU re-map, custom exhaust, BSR induction. Circa 280bhp and 370Nm. Abd before you say it yes it is only faster than an m3 in a straight line and it wouldn't stand a chance around a track. I am well aware of that.
What? have you heard of torque? Peak power arrives at 3,500rev's to 4,000 on diesels. I agree mid range is great but thats what makes turbo diesels so flexible is their low down power.
Yeah plenty of early torque but that doesn't mean they are as fast as petrol engines from low speed! Peak torque at 3000-3500rpm means that they run out of power rapidly at low speed, where as a petrol engine keeps accelerating until 6000 or 7000rpm. As I said, at higher speeds they can use this torque without running out of revs.
That's the reason they always feel underpowered at low speed because they lack the staying power of petrol engines. Are you with me now?
For instance, a petrol car with plenty of bhp and not so much torque may be fast at low speed due to higher rpms (high bhp=better power at high revs) but may be a lot slower than a diesel at higher speeds due to lack of torque (high torque=better power at lower revs).
Torque and bhp is all about 'gearing'. Early torque and lower rev band diesels are hindered by lower gears (1st and 2nd maily) but advantaged by the higher gears and vice versa for petrol engines.
still dont 100% agree with you. With powerful diesels in any gear, you dont have to rev the shit out of it to get decent speed unlike a petrol car. Diesels from my experience audi 3.0tdi, 330d and my audi 1.9tdi 130 show me this.
Yes I am with you on that cimbomgalatasari. I wasn't arguing that diesels don't have low speed power, just that petrols are generally faster in comparison at lower speeds. That is where I think we missed each others point :)
The TD 130 is a great performer, have you not considered getting it mapped? I've heard stories of up to 50bhp hike on those engines and torque respectively. Now that is serious power for very little money.
No worries :) yeah the the tdi 130 is really good. Funny you should say that, i am actually considering a remap. For around £200 power goes up to around 185bhp max, should be pretty swift then :)
I noticed you drive a T5. The first performance car i had a ride in was an 850 T5 when i was maybe 12, what a car i will never forget the power that thing had! Im a big fan of Volvo's my dad has one.
Yep I have a 850 T5 tuned to around 280 bhp/370nm. It is a very very fast car and almost totally lag free. Front tyres barely last 3000miles though :)
I would seriously consider going for a map if i was you, make sure you get a full service/stage-0 done and change any worn or suspect components under the bonnet first and get it done professionally by a VW/Audi tuner even if it does cost more. An extra 100nm of torque would totally transform the performance without sacrificing fuel economy.
Sounds like you have a beast! Yeah i would only get it done by a VW/Audi specialist. I had a fiat coupe 20v Turbo before and i can relate to your use of the front tyres:)
I have a chip in my tdi 1.9 130 and its a litlle bit more like a petrol car now, it keeps going beter in the higher rpms now to especially from 3000-4000rpms. I have it remapped for 275eur
I have a chip in my Tdi 1.9 130 and it a little bit more like a petrol car now, it keeps going beter in the higher rpms now to especially from 3000-4000rpm. I have it remapped for 275eur and it got now a 175hp it think. regards
He may have the Euro Spec version E36 M3. They have a significant performance advantage over the U.S. version. The D has way more torque but it's at it's max at a considerably lower RPM.
I bet the diesel would have kept up better if the auto gearbox didn't insist on revving it to the redline in every gear - that's not where the power is in a diesel! Good effort though - sweet cars
yeah you right ... the 335d and the 535d shouldnt come with auto gearbox... diesel with auto or semiautomatic dont work at all... Ive driven a 330d and its mch quiker shifting at low rpm than at almost the red line... low rpm equals full turbo charch and high torque... keep well
ok. i wanna get something straight...i don't know much about cars and i was wondering something..So i asked a friend who he thought would win in a drag race, the bmw 335d sedan or the infiniti g37 sedan and he said the g37 sedan. he said that even though the 335d has an awesome amount of torque (around 470 lb-ft), the bmw will pull away from 1st to 3rd, but will lose in the horsepower (265 hp vs. 330 hp) game from 4th to 6th...is this true?
I have a E36 M3 3.2 and have beaten E46's quite easily. My mats got both and says the e36 is faster. Also E36 3.0 is alot slower than 3.2, check out my my car on youtube, type M3 Evo vs M3 3.0 at santapod 2008
No way the E36 M3 is faster then the E46 M3, that's an insult to BMW mate. In your theory, the E46 M3 is faster then the E92 M3, right? Does BMW go backwards?? I don't know what E46 M3's you've raced and who drove them. Also, I've heard that the 286hp E36 pulls better then the 321hp version. Is that true or did one like yourself spread this rumor? Also, you've raced the heaviest 335d, the touring, if you race a coupe it would be a much closer race and it is possible for you to lose...
The standard M3 evo is 209.24 bhp/tonne. The E46 is 215.29.
Its quite easy to see they are close enough for a few very minor mods or even different compound tyres to make the difference.
the E46's extra power is also right up high in the rev range (more revs) so is less useful then it could be had it been had they upped torque and kept the same rev range.
I agree with you, they are close, but stock to stock, the E46 will win everytime. Also, the gap is smaller if they race from a standing start, but if they do a running start, when they already have the revs build up, the difference will be bigger.
So many people underestimate the power of the old M3 3,3... it IS a seriously quick machine! About the same amount of people seem to think that the 335d is equivalent to a Veyron, due to its "massive torque". Quite funny indeed :)
The 335d is definately stock. Sorry mate but no way the (stock?) M3 could outrun a remaped 335d like that... If you don't believe me just checkout this vid in youtube: "M3 E36 3.0L vs M3 3.2 vs 335I MRC vs 335D ws² vs CTR 2.2L"
The day we did the sprint the owner did a dyno run and reached 320HP/679.1Nm. So it's not stock at all. And if you don't believe me, send me your email adres and i will send you the dyno graph ;-)
stop the fighting. cant we all agree that the interior on the e36 m3 is much nicer than the e91 335d?
youngb1ood 2 months ago
Look you bunch of muppets. I have owned BOTH of these cars ok. A stock 335d is slow. A tuned, circa 350bhp 335d is fast, and a bit faster than an M3.
Most of you muppets don't know the difference between torque and power anyway, so stop trying to get all technical. God I hate these constant my car's better than your's videos... yawn
peaps 2 months ago
Not a very well tuned 335d, unless there is something wrong with it, or the e36 is highly tuned. A properly tuned 335d will keep up with an e90 m3. A standard 335d will easily beat an e36 evo m3.
caseyryeback1913 4 months ago
@caseyryeback1913
"A standard 335d will easily beat an e36 evo m3."
E36 Evo: 321PS, 1474Kg.
335d: 286PS, 1655Kg.
I don't think so.
BigGee84 4 months ago
0:05 --> floor sound :D
zBoost 5 months ago 2
hahahah stupid fool with stupid old money eating e36 m 3 noob. My 535d would not only overtake you but fucking destroy your old m3. And you can polish your tires if you want and change all components in engine and still you will be back... Dude you are an retard if you think what you recorded is reality. For your info The way you pulled on BMW in this Video is AM DB9 420hp gone from me... So what does that tell you... or you are fast as AM DB9 little noob.
enakup 5 months ago
@enakup
Yeah yeah sure!! Take a look at my video against the tuned 535d, also not right huh???
Dumb ass!
ErikT595 5 months ago 2
@ErikT595
Due you dont get it I do not know what is with that 535d, did you check idiot ? Mabye was 525d tuned with emblem 535d... Which part of 535d chipped ownez e46 m3, not your old e36 m3 omfg....
Accept it and dont write such bull shit... So your m3 goes 300 ? I can answer you it goes realisitic 270 max if you tune every shit in it, when 535d tunned goes 300 on gps...
enakup 5 months ago
@enakup
An AM with 420hp ain't such a quick car.
ErikT595 5 months ago
@ErikT595 there is no DB) with 420bhp it has 456 or 476bhp is still faster than a 335d or even an e46 M3...
2fight4 4 months ago
@enakup your so cool, how can i be as cool as you
knocklebockle1010 5 months ago
@enakup wow, you're a really angry person. Small penis, no?
inurkiewicz 3 months ago
bullshit a 335d would kill a m3 all day long.
theincrediblespen 7 months ago 2
sorry...but i don`t belive in that 335 ist tuned and that m3 stock.
i have drive a 335d tuned and that`s a monster
ricardojpmagalhaes20 8 months ago
@ricardojpmagalhaes20 i've driven a stock 535d and that was a monster. And the 5 series is havier than the 3.
EscarepioSenior 6 months ago
I had a 295bhp twin turbo legacy that just got away from my mates M3, but 335s used to kill my legacy.....
MuZiZZle 9 months ago
lol @ all the diesel whiners in here.
Euphorica 11 months ago 12
Wat ik appart vind aan dit filmpje, mijn maat heeft een E46 M3. Ik een E92 335D touring. Wij hebben dit vaak gedaan en de Diesel doet zeker niet onder voor de M3. Mijn mening is dat die touring veel te hoog in toeren anders kan je het echt vergeten.
mrcobus86 11 months ago
@mrcobus86
Misschien als je b.v. vanaf 60 gaat starten dat de 335d meer kans maakt. Wij hebben het meerdere malen
geprobeerd, meestal vanaf 100. De ene keer in automaat stand, maar meestal op de hand zodat de bak niet gaat schakelen als het niet wilt bij de start. Je ziet overigens de 335d flink omhoog uit de veren gaan bij de start, dus er gebeurd echt wel wat ;)
ErikT595 11 months ago
@Biggee84 you are missing an ingredient in your ratio .. Called torque and the M3 has half of a std 335d let alone a tuned one
imfuctifino 1 year ago
@imfuctifino And you clearly don't understand how power and torque relate to performance. If peak torque determined performance, the Veyron would undoubtedly be a Diesel.
That last bit was called 'logic'. Try it some time.
BigGee84 8 months ago
@BigGee84 We are going to go round in circles here ... Audi R10 , 3 times winner of the le mans 24 hour.. diesel , If the R10 couldnt hold it's own it wouldn't win and it still wins even when they apply weight handicap your.... 'logic' just failed
imfuctifino 8 months ago
@imfuctifino What, and you think that's down to its 'torque'? Or do you think perhaps it has more to do with Le Mans being an ENDURANCE race and the R10 requiring fewer refuels?
BigGee84 8 months ago 2
@imfuctifino The torque only really helps from a standstill. Once your moving, horsepower/KW is the major factor.
Also keep in mind, with this comparison, the M3 will rev to about 7200 rpm and the 335d about 5500-6000(?), so keeping in gear and having constant power, as opposed to changing gear and having the slight power lapse, will help. As will less weight and a manual gear box in the M3, as opposed to an (assumed) automatic in the 335d.
200208195 6 months ago
als ob das ein 335 d ist -.-
cCc35xOSMANLIx35cCc 1 year ago
is das die standart auspuff anlage oder hast du du bisschen nach geholfen ?
goran123007 1 year ago
@goran123007
At the time of this video the M3 had an Hamann muffler.
ErikT595 1 year ago
rein theoretisch müsste der 335d gewinnen der alte m3 e46 kann sich mit einem guten getunten 335d nicht messen,gut der touring wiegt mehr wie z.b. ne limo oder coupe trotzdem....
C3n0xX 1 year ago
@C3n0xX
Mein M3 e36 is auch schneller als der M3 e46.
Se my other video's ;-)
ErikT595 1 year ago
@ErikT595
das liegt am gewicht aber wir reden hier vom vergleich vom e46m3 und dem 335d..
aber ok M motoren sind vielleicht wie die AMG Motoren besser ,sowohl materialbedingt und feiner gehandhabt als auch vom MotormanagementSystem
C3n0xX 1 year ago
What the hell did the 335 driver do?
morrarN 1 year ago
@morrarN
Hahaha, flooring the pedal to the metal ;)
ErikT595 1 year ago
@ErikT595 no ! i saw a 535d ( which is heavier than a bmw 335d!) against a m3 e39 and the 535d killed it , but the 535d was tuned and had about 350 hp
zafert85 1 year ago
@zafert85
M3 e39??? M3 e46 you mean, i quess... I saw that movie to, but my M3 e36 is faster then the M3 e46 ;)
ErikT595 1 year ago
Why all the anti E36 M3 comments ???
Diesels only rule if you pull in the same gear, where the superior torque works in its favour. The E36, E46 M3's pull to 7,500 - 8,000 revs & i used to eat diesels in my E36 M3 @ 321 bhp + never got outrun by any evo or scooby etc
LEBONSKIFINARM 1 year ago
@LEBONSKIFINARM
That's correct ;-)
ErikT595 1 year ago
@LEBONSKIFINARM Wow! then you are a more superior human and we must bow down to your exceptional knowledge and experience. "ALL HAIL KING LEBONSKIFINARM!". You are king of the road, a real-life Vin Diesel (No pun intended). you are indeed better than everyone because you beat some guy in a diesel. Chicks will love you, men will want to simply hang out close to you just to get a sniff of success. You are indeed the man of all men!.....I salute you!
GlobalGLader 1 year ago
@GlobalGLader Nah ! think you have to much time on your hands to write this sort of **** :P
LEBONSKIFINARM 1 year ago
@kneckebenkross
Watch my other movie against the chipped 335d touring.
End of story!
ErikT595 1 year ago
i have a 335d and its just way better than a m3. i had one of them and sold it for the 335d. you may think it is shit because its a diesel, i thought that, but m3 is not as good
lietuwiis 1 year ago
@lietuwiis Luckily BMW think differently
hunty2000 1 year ago
HP > Torque
Gasoline Engines > Diesel Engines
So Diesel = Gay Power.
After read the coments we can assume most of peolple are gay .
TheEuroperules 1 year ago
@TheEuroperules
Torque better for scaring your passengers. You can cruise around at 40mph at 1.5k rpm, then suddenly put your foot down and with NO WARNING they are hit with 600N/M torque at around 1.7k rpm. Thats gonna hit your very hard against your headrest lol.
In an 2009 M5 you have the rev range to get through before maximum pull, and even then it only has 400nm torque, which is pathetic.
fentonjd 1 year ago
@fentonjd tell that to BMW . Do we have any BMW M Diesel ? Just think.
TheEuroperules 1 year ago
@fentonjd
The Max Torque of the E60/E61 M5 isn't 400Nm but 520Nm.
ErikT595 1 year ago
335d stock :::!!!!:::: never chip !!
fa19 1 year ago
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SLAVALIGHT 1 year ago
AHAHA gOOOOD :D:D
rciatko 1 year ago
@linn1000 Nice one. Where did you get your car mapped mate? eMaps?
peaps 1 year ago
Interesting vid, although, that's an E46 M3 with 343BHP. I've got an E46 and am gonna sell it to buy a 335D. You can now chip 335Ds up to 350BHP, 700NM. Although, the key point here is the torque curve which is VERY flat on turbocharged engines and will likely beat an E46 M3 due to the M3 needing 8000RPM to generate maximum power. The 335D gains max power very early on and the auto box makes maximum use of the torque available. Like someone else said, 50mpg (maybe a bit optimistic!)
peaps 1 year ago
@peaps Yeah, de there are diferent remaps, one more agressive than the others, this one in particular shouldn't be a lot powerfull.
The torque curve is getting more flat because they use twin turbos, wich reduce the turbolag a lot, but you still get better torque curve with the petrol version like the 335i, because in higher rpm, the diesels loose theyr power because diesel burns slower than petrol. But for everyday use the lower torque band of the diesel is nice, and 50mpg can be done i think
weed46 1 year ago
BMW e36 US spec 3.2 240hp
BMW e36 EU spec 3.0 286hp
BMW e36 EU spec 3.2 321hp
kostjama 1 year ago
Um an e36 m3?
There's no way its faster than the 335d...
That prob was a 320d
NarishmaJr 1 year ago
@NarishmaJr
Jep an i'm driving a 316i...
ErikT595 1 year ago
@NarishmaJr M3 is much ligther and more powerfull, how can it not be faster? and throw in some corners and you will see how the fat diesel starts to trail even more
weed46 1 year ago
@weed46 M3 = 1570Kg. 335D = 1655Kg. Not really that much heavier. Also not MUCH more powerful either. I imagine the 335D in this vid had a poor map applied to it.
peaps 1 year ago
@peaps This is an E36 M3, 1515kg, and that is an 335d TOURING wich has 1720kg, official info from BMW, that's a massive 205kg. if the 335d was stock the M3 would have 35hp more, and tha'ts a lot for a car 15years old, with no turbos, the 335d has 2 turbos. If you want fuel economy, the 335d does great, if you want ot go fast and can't a ford an M3, just buy the 335, is lighter, is faster, more reliable, and sounds so much better.
weed46 1 year ago
@weed46 Ok, yeah sorry I take it back I see it's an E36 now. Just looked very similar to an E46 inside, but yeah, point taken. There's another video on YT of a 335D (remapped) at Santa Pod vs a stock E46 M3, and the D obliterates the M3. So, maybe this particular D had a weaker map?
peaps 1 year ago
Erik , There is NO WAY that is a tuned 335D. I have one & it EATS E36/E46 M3's .Evolve are THE people to tune a 335D .FFS I can sit with a E92 M3 up to 120mph . ps : I also can get 50 to the gallon .
mexicomark 1 year ago
I've seen the dyno graph of this 335d, it has been on a good dyno. I Know because my car has been there to. This 335d touring came on 320hp/680Nm. I've also raced a tuned 535d (see my other movies) That car had 350hp/710Nm. I don't know why MY M3 is that quick. My M3 also eats M3 e46's (see my other movies also) Kind Regards, Erik
ErikT595 1 year ago
@mexicomark 335d eating M3's? not even the M3 e36 3.0... M3's run very close with the 335i, and the 335i despite only 20hp difference, eats the 335d by miles, is way lighter
weed46 1 year ago
Bullshit
paulstearne 1 year ago
3,2 M3 e36 is a very fast car - faster then E46 M3
BMW130ii 1 year ago
I'd still take the 335d. It may not beat the M3, but it'll beat most anything else it comes up against.
lupischuckle 2 years ago 2
signal with the horn when to start guys not hands
lionpulse 2 years ago
sorry , but 335d tuned would tear that M3 apart ( assuming that was std) .. not only an e36 but a e46 too, the guy must have been in the wrong gear .. oddly probably too low gear. You can achieve nearly 700nM of tourque and around 330 bhp by tuning the 335d and probably more . If the guy was in sport mode and revs were about 2k , then bye bye M3. For what it's worth i reckon the bloke got a tuned 320d
imfuctifino 2 years ago 17
We've tryed it several times, and each time the 335d lost, i've also raced a tuned 535d (350hp/710Nm)and won that too, see my other movies. I've also seen the dyno graph of this tuned 335d, so it's proved that it is tuned 320hp/680Nm. It also had a good torque graph.
The 335d did about 275km/h :)
ErikT595 2 years ago
Put both cars on a slope and try this race.
The hill will have virtually no affect on the 335d. Not so sure about an M5. Of course it will still be fast. I'd expect the 335d to atleast get ahead at some stage.
fentonjd 2 years ago
Your E36 must be highly tuned , your 3.2 engine is 316 bhp. A tuned 335d will have nearly double the torque of e36,
We all know torque counts more than bhp when bhp between cars are similar.
The guy in the 335d must be revving too high when you start the race. He must try to be reving at maybe 1800 rpm and let the torque pull the car. He must also change gear early too. The power is going by 4k rpm. He needs to drive where the power is which is low down the rev range.1500 - 4000 max.
imfuctifino 2 years ago 2
i sounds like you dont have any idea how torque is related to bhp ::)
driverOO7 1 year ago
you clearly don't have a tuned BMW diesel :)
imfuctifino 1 year ago
@imfuctifino "A tuned 335d will have nearly double the torque of e36"
So?
"We all know torque counts more than bhp when bhp between cars are similar"
Do we? Even though physics PROVES that power is what matters?
Power = Force X Velocity
Therefore:
Force = Power / Velocity = acceleration
"The guy in the 335d must be revving too high..."
Stop looking for excuses. The 335d lost because the M3 clearly has a higher power/weight ratio.
BigGee84 1 year ago 3
@BigGee84
This 335d has 680Nm on the dyno, the M3 360Nm.
ErikT595 1 year ago
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@ErikT595 "his 335d has 680Nm on the dyno, the M3 360Nm."
So?
Since when has the peak torque figure been a measure of performance?
BigGee84 9 months ago
@BigGee84 I own a stock 2009 335D sport...having the revs right makes a huge difference...all the power is at 1700-3500 rpms...it starts to fade above that due to the dynamics of a diesel engine. Sometimes I feel as if I get better pull when pressing the throttle 3/4 instead of flooring it for this same reason...rolling start from 60 mph where the D is already near peak torque rpm range is a big dusadvantage for the D, roll from 40 or less and forget about it, the D wins
stussy109 11 months ago
It is not the best chip I ' ve ever seen.....
Zolkobatyo 2 years ago
@imfuctifino
I dont agree, Maybe a 335i but not an M3.
fentonjd 2 years ago
@imfuctifino And you will beat the shit out of the engine in no time...
titanium84 1 year ago
I don't agree, I had 135i tuned by Vishnu around 370HP. I tryed with M3 e36 a lot times, with stock 306hp 135i was much slower then M3, with Vishnu ON it was little bit faster then E36.
335d even with chip is about the same fast as stock 335i or 135i
BMW130ii 1 year ago
Chipped 135i is very fast indeed, see my other movies ;)
ErikT595 1 year ago
@BMW130ii Take your high heels off and the car will go quicker.
370bhp v 306bhp . Anyone got Einsteins number?
mexicomark 1 year ago
@imfuctifino spend the same money on an E36 m3 as a 535d + any chipping and you would have a seriously seriously quick car. The M3 is made to be quick, the 535d is made to efficiently and comfortably get to the shops and back.
jcadlols 1 year ago
@imfuctifino 335d my bad. I was just watching the one against the 5 series
jcadlols 1 year ago
@imfuctifino
"sorry , but 335d tuned would tear that M3 apart "
Don't be silly. The car with the greatest power to weight would win regardless. Given the 335d's extra weight, it would need a significant power advantage to stay with the M3, let alone beat it.
BigGee84 1 year ago
@imfuctifino You seem to be completely ignoring the fact the E46 M3 weighs 300kg less than the 335d touring. It might be down 10-15hp but it's up massively hp/weight.
gazboselectamo 6 months ago
lol ja, in Nederland xD
luigio1888 2 years ago
in nederland nog wel!!
bartdude95 2 years ago
my 535D is faster than this my fried, it has 365 hp 720nm, and top speed of 293++ so your m3 dont have a chance to mine 535D 0-100 5.1 sec not even a e46 m3 dos 0-100 in 5.1 sec
teodor1403 2 years ago
@teodor1403
My M3 is also faster then the M3 e46, i've also raced a 535d with 350hp/710Nm and he also lost the race. See my other movies.
ErikT595 2 years ago
@ErikT595
yeah i so thoose. and it was nice, but if your m3 is faster than e46, no possible it is stock
teodor1403 2 years ago
any thing done to the e36 m3?
sk8eemerica15 2 years ago
THIS IS M3 E46 I THINK
MDIVISIONRULES 2 years ago
Nope it's the e36.
ErikT595 2 years ago
good video...
pendulap7 2 years ago
This 335d can also do more then 155mph.
Have you been on the dyno after remap?
ErikT595 2 years ago
Man! that 335d is mighty fast! Howmuch torque did it gain by tuning? With a manual gearbox the diesel would be as fast as the M3. Great video. tnx.
(That's it, I'm buying a 335d. It's decided.)
viragemasta 2 years ago
The gain was 100Nm and 34HP
ErikT595 2 years ago
A manual box wouldn't be able to handle the torque . Auto's change gear quicker than manuals now.
mexicomark 1 year ago
This truly proves one car is better than the other.
JET997u 2 years ago
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Diesels are Slow
weed46 2 years ago
no... 321 hp with 3000 pds vs a bout with 20 more hp... the m3 wins
benberklee09 2 years ago 2
343BHP at 8000rpm.
peaps 2 years ago
Sooo viel hätte aber auch nicht mehr gefehlt...Aber schöner Vergleich!
TobiNassau 2 years ago
that s a 330d for sure
miksirikoitsen 2 years ago
Why do you think that?
It's really a tuned 335d e91
ErikT595 2 years ago
Diesel cars R 4 lamers,
Petrol cars R 4 true petrolheads.
End of the story.
urosb82 2 years ago
petrol cars R 4 lamers
diesel cars R 4 true dieselheads
end of story
mcorpus01 2 years ago
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i HATE diesels
ottooke007 2 years ago
This vid proves that diesels are fucking shit
1EyedMilkMan 2 years ago
your an idiot
Ialocin85 2 years ago
lol hardly. 335D 0-60 in 5.8 seconds as standard.
You wouldnt turn one down. And the torque would feel incredible compared to the M3.
fentonjd 2 years ago 2
hmm let's see..
diesel's torque is at 1700rpm..
therefore no point at revving at high speeds.
and that's a m3. v8 vs i6..
diesel's arent shit..... personal preference.
mcorpus01 2 years ago
no.. this m3 is straight-6 engine.
retard.
strathpol 2 years ago
You say tuned 335d for 320hp ? .... just 20 hp more than origin ... a real tuned 335d can kick the ass of this m3
sdchat1 2 years ago
Stock 335d has 286hp / 580Nm.
This one has 320hp / 680Nm
So the gain is; 34hp / 100Nm
ErikT595 2 years ago
335D "M" kit had 300 hp
sdchat1 2 years ago
Sinds when? I'm an employee of BMW and as far as i know there's no 300hp option from BMW. The new x35d engines are getting 306hp.
ErikT595 2 years ago
Option and hp engine can change in all different party in the world. My best friend have a 335D with 300 hp origin, possible it's a modification of the garage.
sdchat1 2 years ago
actually, a stock 335d has 265 hp and 425 ft lbs of torque
duin2in 2 years ago 2
diesel engines is much more stronger and durable than a petrol engines.
Hotboylebanon 2 years ago
That's no longer true as they are now alloy blocks the same as petrol engines.
The reason they used to be stronger is that they were using iron blocks when petrol engines had moved to alloy, but the disadvantage of this was that the iron block is much heavier.
Diesel engine run a higher compression ratio that petrol, so if anything I'd imagine they wouldn't last as long given the same alloy block.
Lifeofriley18 2 years ago
Highly suspect video!!
nickeroo 2 years ago
if that diesel had 320hp and 680 nm trq....u would not have a chance m8...thrust me not even slightley i don't think that car is tuned in anyway it's just plain old stock
mascotarulez 2 years ago
Trust me it is, i've seen the Dyno graph.
The 335d touring also easily reaches 270km/h.
The car has been dyno-ed on the same dyno as my car. I've also raced a 535d sedan with 350HP/710Nm, see my other movies.
ErikT595 2 years ago
an e36 M3 would never leave a 335D standing like this.. If you live anywhere near Kent, let me prove it to you ;)
zhap018 2 years ago
280HP and 370Nm vs. 321HP and 350Nn!!! Are you are sure that you can beat M3 Evo? 328 yes if's gonna bite the dust, M3 (286HP) maybe but Evo I don't think so. I'll smoke you wihout using 6th gear.
CrazyBMWManiac 2 years ago
The best part about this though is that even though the E36 M3 walked all over it, the 335d is still getting over 30mpg in that run. Highway crusing BMW claims you'll be getting 41.5 MPG.
(According to April 2008 BMWCAR)The M3's fuel consumption it's in the teens at best in that run.
///Diesel Power
Streetracingpunk72 2 years ago
Thats no 335d in the first place.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
And how can you tell?
ErikT595 2 years ago
Hey EriK, haven't seen this vid before! I have to say though, there is no way you will pull on a tuned 335d like this in anything. My Volvo 850 T5 is tuned and will outrun a Euro-spec M3 Evo from a 40mph rolling start. However, recently I tried to out run a 330d on the motorway and I couldn't get away for all my trying let alone leave him for dead like you did in this video.
The 335d has so much mid-range it's unbelieveablere. there is just no way that car is a tuned 335d
05027802 2 years ago
This 335d certainly is tuned.
The day before this sprint the owner putted the car on a well know dyno. He reached 320HP/680Nm (wide rpm range)
He also reached a speed of 270km/h with this touring! I also have the dyno graph. I also raced a tuned 535d with 350HP/710Nm. See my other videos :)
ErikT595 2 years ago
All I can say is you must have been going very slow when you both put your foot down. A rolling start from 60 or 70 mph and a 335d would take you down for sure
05027802 2 years ago
Ok than duude!!! I can't understand guys like you, when you see a brand new diesel with very good specs get smoked by any older sport car the relpy's are "this is not possible" or "it's not tuned up" and bla bla bla. Okay its tuned, it's fast but its is a crappy diesel against one of the best cars BMW ever made E36 M3 Evo! An E36 M3 Evo in good condition and low mileage is killing a lot of modern cars like E46 M3 even with SMG (Erik knows best :D :D :D) I drove E36 M3 Evo too. And i'll smoke
CrazyBMWManiac 2 years ago
Hey, I hate diesels and virtually all modern cars more than anyone! But I also i know that a car with twice the torque isn't going to get left for dead by a car with half the torque!
And as much as I hate these diesels our UK traffic officers use the 335d and 535d and they use them to catch all sorts of speeding motorists. Of course they lack low speed acceleration but get them going and they are really really fast especially the tuned ones!
05027802 2 years ago
Okay!!! I agree the 335d and 535d are better than E36 M3 Evo, E46 M3, E92 M3 infact they are faster then Ferarri Enzo and even bugatti veyron :D :D :D.
I can't understand BMW!! They are so stupid.....must cancel all the M cars (M3,M5,M6) and the ultimate sport cars must be 335d and 535d. Oh I forgot they must be tuned up with powerboxes and chips to catch up TURBO HAYABUSA'S :D :D :D Believe me my mate I'll kill every fucking 535d and 335d with my M3 Evo!!!
CrazyBMWManiac 2 years ago
Don't be such a drama queen! How often do police come up against Veyrons and Enzo's that fail to stop? When I said all sorts of speeding motorists I didn't mean it can keep up with literally anything.
Well as i've said before, a 335d (possibly tuned I've no idea) did a very good job of keeping me in sight at high speed and i've managed to outrun M3 evo's in my car
05027802 2 years ago
And what is your car? And what mods you got?
CrazyBMWManiac 2 years ago
1996 Volvo 850 T5 custom ECU re-map, custom exhaust, BSR induction. Circa 280bhp and 370Nm. Abd before you say it yes it is only faster than an m3 in a straight line and it wouldn't stand a chance around a track. I am well aware of that.
05027802 2 years ago
actually low speed acceleration is where they excel
cimbomgalatasari 2 years ago
What? Diesels are mid-range vehicles hence the reason they are rarely seen doing 0-60 runs. Mid-range yeah, low speed no
05027802 2 years ago
What? have you heard of torque? Peak power arrives at 3,500rev's to 4,000 on diesels. I agree mid range is great but thats what makes turbo diesels so flexible is their low down power.
cimbomgalatasari 2 years ago 2
Yeah plenty of early torque but that doesn't mean they are as fast as petrol engines from low speed! Peak torque at 3000-3500rpm means that they run out of power rapidly at low speed, where as a petrol engine keeps accelerating until 6000 or 7000rpm. As I said, at higher speeds they can use this torque without running out of revs.
That's the reason they always feel underpowered at low speed because they lack the staying power of petrol engines. Are you with me now?
05027802 2 years ago
For instance, a petrol car with plenty of bhp and not so much torque may be fast at low speed due to higher rpms (high bhp=better power at high revs) but may be a lot slower than a diesel at higher speeds due to lack of torque (high torque=better power at lower revs).
Torque and bhp is all about 'gearing'. Early torque and lower rev band diesels are hindered by lower gears (1st and 2nd maily) but advantaged by the higher gears and vice versa for petrol engines.
05027802 2 years ago
still dont 100% agree with you. With powerful diesels in any gear, you dont have to rev the shit out of it to get decent speed unlike a petrol car. Diesels from my experience audi 3.0tdi, 330d and my audi 1.9tdi 130 show me this.
cimbomgalatasari 2 years ago
Yes I am with you on that cimbomgalatasari. I wasn't arguing that diesels don't have low speed power, just that petrols are generally faster in comparison at lower speeds. That is where I think we missed each others point :)
The TD 130 is a great performer, have you not considered getting it mapped? I've heard stories of up to 50bhp hike on those engines and torque respectively. Now that is serious power for very little money.
05027802 2 years ago
No worries :) yeah the the tdi 130 is really good. Funny you should say that, i am actually considering a remap. For around £200 power goes up to around 185bhp max, should be pretty swift then :)
I noticed you drive a T5. The first performance car i had a ride in was an 850 T5 when i was maybe 12, what a car i will never forget the power that thing had! Im a big fan of Volvo's my dad has one.
cimbomgalatasari 2 years ago
Yep I have a 850 T5 tuned to around 280 bhp/370nm. It is a very very fast car and almost totally lag free. Front tyres barely last 3000miles though :)
I would seriously consider going for a map if i was you, make sure you get a full service/stage-0 done and change any worn or suspect components under the bonnet first and get it done professionally by a VW/Audi tuner even if it does cost more. An extra 100nm of torque would totally transform the performance without sacrificing fuel economy.
05027802 2 years ago
Sounds like you have a beast! Yeah i would only get it done by a VW/Audi specialist. I had a fiat coupe 20v Turbo before and i can relate to your use of the front tyres:)
cimbomgalatasari 2 years ago
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I have a chip in my tdi 1.9 130 and its a litlle bit more like a petrol car now, it keeps going beter in the higher rpms now to especially from 3000-4000rpms. I have it remapped for 275eur
and it got now a 175hp i think. regards
nachtegael9 2 years ago
I have a chip in my Tdi 1.9 130 and it a little bit more like a petrol car now, it keeps going beter in the higher rpms now to especially from 3000-4000rpm. I have it remapped for 275eur and it got now a 175hp it think. regards
nachtegael9 2 years ago
I bet it does go well! 175 bhp and probably another 100nm of torque to boot. Not bad for under 300 Euro! Enjoy :)
05027802 2 years ago
but diesel misses rpm and u net rpm for highspeed.:)
emreTR 2 years ago
I have a STOCK 335d E92 and have race a E36 M3 Cab (286hp) many times and they are equal, maybe mine is a bit faster.
NIIICEDK 2 years ago
e36cab is pretty heavy, my 3.2 is a lot faster then the e36 3.0 coupe.
ErikT595 2 years ago
the e36 MUST be heavily tuned, there's no way he's walking on the D like that....the D has way more torque. I call BS...
vladi341 3 years ago 3
He may have the Euro Spec version E36 M3. They have a significant performance advantage over the U.S. version. The D has way more torque but it's at it's max at a considerably lower RPM.
Amazetbm 2 years ago
I bet the diesel would have kept up better if the auto gearbox didn't insist on revving it to the redline in every gear - that's not where the power is in a diesel! Good effort though - sweet cars
Rossamus 3 years ago
yeah you right ... the 335d and the 535d shouldnt come with auto gearbox... diesel with auto or semiautomatic dont work at all... Ive driven a 330d and its mch quiker shifting at low rpm than at almost the red line... low rpm equals full turbo charch and high torque... keep well
mickelfchaves 3 years ago
Well thats strange, My 335d makes maximum power at 4500 rpm and is faster if i thrash it than if i dont.
mybizuk 3 years ago
ok. i wanna get something straight...i don't know much about cars and i was wondering something..So i asked a friend who he thought would win in a drag race, the bmw 335d sedan or the infiniti g37 sedan and he said the g37 sedan. he said that even though the 335d has an awesome amount of torque (around 470 lb-ft), the bmw will pull away from 1st to 3rd, but will lose in the horsepower (265 hp vs. 330 hp) game from 4th to 6th...is this true?
arawatbituin 3 years ago
i've also heard that bmw underrates their cars...
arawatbituin 3 years ago
I have a E36 M3 3.2 and have beaten E46's quite easily. My mats got both and says the e36 is faster. Also E36 3.0 is alot slower than 3.2, check out my my car on youtube, type M3 Evo vs M3 3.0 at santapod 2008
alisoormally 3 years ago 2
No way the E36 M3 is faster then the E46 M3, that's an insult to BMW mate. In your theory, the E46 M3 is faster then the E92 M3, right? Does BMW go backwards?? I don't know what E46 M3's you've raced and who drove them. Also, I've heard that the 286hp E36 pulls better then the 321hp version. Is that true or did one like yourself spread this rumor? Also, you've raced the heaviest 335d, the touring, if you race a coupe it would be a much closer race and it is possible for you to lose...
dreamon272 3 years ago
The standard M3 evo is 209.24 bhp/tonne. The E46 is 215.29.
Its quite easy to see they are close enough for a few very minor mods or even different compound tyres to make the difference.
the E46's extra power is also right up high in the rev range (more revs) so is less useful then it could be had it been had they upped torque and kept the same rev range.
siraff2 3 years ago
I agree with you, they are close, but stock to stock, the E46 will win everytime. Also, the gap is smaller if they race from a standing start, but if they do a running start, when they already have the revs build up, the difference will be bigger.
dreamon272 3 years ago
or the 335d is stock or the m3 tuned:) Chiptuned 335d goes head to head with e46 m3
gutekzmc2 3 years ago
My (stock) M3 is faster then the M3 e46, watch my other movies :)
ErikT595 3 years ago
The M3 E36 is more faster than a E46 M3!!!
E36 is the best M3 ever made...
cypt16 3 years ago
what the hell are you talking about?
SDK727 3 years ago
I agree
calinyoz 3 years ago
So many people underestimate the power of the old M3 3,3... it IS a seriously quick machine! About the same amount of people seem to think that the 335d is equivalent to a Veyron, due to its "massive torque". Quite funny indeed :)
AutoPowerSE 3 years ago 2
The 335d is definately stock. Sorry mate but no way the (stock?) M3 could outrun a remaped 335d like that... If you don't believe me just checkout this vid in youtube: "M3 E36 3.0L vs M3 3.2 vs 335I MRC vs 335D ws² vs CTR 2.2L"
trqster 3 years ago
The day we did the sprint the owner did a dyno run and reached 320HP/679.1Nm. So it's not stock at all. And if you don't believe me, send me your email adres and i will send you the dyno graph ;-)
ErikT595 3 years ago
met een m3 csl turbo nummer 387/1000 custom all black edition 550pk egt heerlijke wagen....;-)
cslpowerrrr 3 years ago
Toevallig, ik 'ken'ook iemand met een zwarte omgebouwde M3 naar CSL, maar dan met compressor. Ook goed voor 550pk.
Heeft ook in Auto&Tuning gestaan.
ErikT595 3 years ago
egt de beste auto's die bmw ooit heeft gemaakt naja ik heb wel een orginele moet ik zeggen met certificaat
cslpowerrrr 3 years ago
ive had a m3 a kno for a fact the 335d would have made me cry!
TubeUx 3 years ago