J.D. Hayworth Compares Gay Marriage To Bestiality

[gretakroger]

great talent .. very entertaining .. thanks

[leeejack]

fuck wit

[notthecheatr]

Even if it could somehow be construed that this law applies to animals as well as to humans (yiffing time!) this problem is easily fixed: make it "the establishment of intimacy between two consenting adults." Problem solved.

Of course, he's not really concerned about people marrying their horses, or for, that matter, their adorable calico house cats named Bluebells. This is just an irrelevant distraction, a red herring to the simple fact that the esteemed Mr. Hayworth is against gay rights.

[MidwestN8TV]

JD Hayworth = loser!

[Rhysdux]

If you remove all of the religious trappings, marriage is a contract between 2 consenting adults. A horse is an animal. It is not human. It cannot make a contract. It cannot consent to marriage. LGBT people, on the other hand, are people. They are capable of making contracts and consenting to marriage. Also, a federal law outlawing gay marriage would be unconstitutional--it would refuse certain citizens a right granted to other citizens, which is against the 14th Amendment. Hayworth is foolish.

[58mikey]

no wonder there are so many divorced men and women around, people don't need to be intimate to be married. just pay a hooker to get off and be done with it..

[kyoungxx]

Interestingly, the majority opinion in the Goodridge case uses the term "intimacy" only four times, none of which amount to what Mr. Hayworth claims. And no where in the opinion -- majority, concurring or dissentiong opinions -- does the phrase "establishment of intimacy" or anything close appear. If one is going to claim to quote directly from a court decision and then draw important inferences, one ought not to make up the quotations. Mr. Hayworth, you're a liar or a fool and probably both.

[kyoungxx]

Interestingly, the majority opinion in the Goodridge case uses the term "intimacy" four times, none of which amount to what Mr. Hayworth claims. And no where in the opinion -- majority, concurring or dissentiong opinions -- does the phrase "establishment of intimacy" or anything close it appear. If one is going to claim to quote directly from a court decision and then draw important inferences, one ought not to make up the quotations. Mr. Hayworth, you're a liar or a fool and probably both.

[Seigu007]

what kind of world do we live in where SODOMY is popular and permitted?. Just goes to show you how fucked people are. Humans deserve to be destroyed.

[LyinOfJudah]

@Seigu007 "Humans deserve to be destroyed. "  No, it's just you who deserves to be destroyed. Go down a gallon of bleach.

[nirbija]

Isn't that a tad bit overreaction? lol

Ignorance & life-destructive behaviors are what need to be destroyed

In other words, the filth-stirring fagots should be subjected to one or more of the 4 C's

The pervert should be Cured or Closeted, or Confined if they insist on coming out of their 'closet' promoting their deviance

And for sure, fagots should be Castrated when they sodomize the children!

And catholic priests should be Castrated as a preventative measure; they have been bad for too long

[BorislavX]

Sorry libs, J.D stated that he is in fact making an "absurd" statement. He actually said absurd 3 times, because he knew that left wing politically correct nazis would immediatley attack him for having an opinion which in any way, form or shape differs from the loony lefty worldview. In fact most Americans agree with J.D. Heck Homosexual Marriage has even been voted down in LIBERAL CALIFORNIA. Face it, you loons are in the minority.

[Aaberg123]

@BorislavX

Absurd, yes. But also a LIE! Nowhere does it say that marriage is merely "an establishment of intimacy". He is lying his ass off, just to score some cheap political points. He's a fucking lying liar!

I don't care about his absurd nonsense, I care about whether or not he is a liar... which he is!

[Blairtim69]

It is absurd for me to call you a pig fucker.

But I have no evidence that says you are not a pig fucker.

I know you will call me rude for saying you are a pig fucker, but I have to go with the evidence at hand. and I have not seen any evidence contrary to the absurd statement that you are indeed a pig fucker.

Civil rights was voted down by a bigger margin than gay marriage. It took a presidential order to make it so.

We will have our Liberty!

[kiwitoothpaste]

How do you make the leap from two consenting adults to HORSES?

[valkyrie17s]

kiwitoothpaste...the redneck mind is very convoluted (and they obviously have a very special love for their horsies)

[MidnightChimes]

actually, JD is a dog fucker. Everyone knows about it in Arizona but they do things differently out there.

[valkyrie17s]

So, this peabrain can't see that his "concern" would be covered by wording stating that marriage is between 2 consenting adults??

[UH60Pilot]

Wow look at all the outraged faggots.

[LLORT3]

if marriage is sacred why is divorce legal

[Sage80]

So to get this straight, people who are crying about this DO believe marriage is an establishment of intimacy?

[Sage80]

Clearly gay people have internet access to rate poorly videos that they don't like. Internet use..homosexuality...hmmm.

[Wilbur665]

I, for one, cannot WAIT to marry my horse, "Mr. Ed", and consummate the wedding in the bestial honeymoon spot of Enumclaw, Washington!

[BlackpeopleLOL]

By the way, do you guys who are calling him a closet gay have a point?

Even if he is gay why does it matter? It's a very valid point that people could marry animals with that kind of interpretation of the rules. And he doesnt want to see that level of farce occurring in his country? Did you ever think about it that way?

No of course you didnt because you overgrown children are only obsessed with fetishistic, ritualistic "shaming" of people you believe are "repressing" themselves or whatever.

[BlackpeopleLOL]

ahaha I love all the faggots who post "THIS GUYS OBVIOUSLY A CLOSET HOMOSEXUAL" every time a Republican talks about gay marriage.

You're even more predictable than the cases of gonorrhea and tapeworms that you guys get from ingesting each others' feces.

[technicschic]

And JD Hayworth just lied during his interview with Rachel Maddow. As the "great" Joe Wilson said - YOU LIE!

[nirbija]

Any scientist who is 'worth his salt' can easily show that homosexuality is a birth defect/behavioral defect

All that's needed is to look at the mating habits of the vast amount of humans & human societies since the beginning, to recognize that homosexuality IS a deviance

Homosexuality never was, not now is, or ever will be a representative human behavior for individual or for society

Even the wise Egyptians, going back thousands of years, recognized males 'lying together' as a HUMAN WRONG!

[noodles91380]

and yet...you don't cite a single scientific source.

[BlackpeopleLOL]

good point. you need a scientific source to back you up to have a valid opinion. if someone's a "scientist", you know their opinion is rock solid.

y'know, like those good old climate scientists...

[noodles91380]

wow...can't believe you're siding with this nut job.

This guy has been spouting things as "fact" quite a bit here...I'm just asking him to back it up. Otherwise its just opinion. And opinions are like assholes...

[BlackpeopleLOL]

I dont know anyone who wants to fuck opinions.

[noodles91380]

Well aren't you clever. You must be a real blast to hang out with.

[cindiloohoo]

Apparently Arizona election law is so loose in its logic and wording that it can lead to a braying jackass running for office.

[samthomasmusic]

edited quote. "...defined as the establish of intimacy. This could lead to the ruining of 95% of the world's men's lives."

samthomasmusic parodying JD Hayworth.

PS: It sucks to be a punk in AZ.

[nirbija]

So-called homosexual 'marriage' is far worse than 'marrying' a horse!

At least with 'marrying' a horse, there is little doubt that we are dealing with a mental patient.

With the nasty filth-stirring homos, the delusion is not as obvious; because many of the deviant fagots SEEM 'normal'.

Fagots are lower than horses, pigs & dogs and other animals; because even those lowly creatures realize that mating is with the OPPOSITE gender!

[cindiloohoo]

Hmmm. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Judging from her frenzied pearl-clutching, the only thing that could possibly be in question here is whether the lady is a foolishly closeted homosexual or a not-so-foolishly closeted zoophile.

[noodles91380]

heh heh, I was thinking the same thing. Somebody sounds like a self-hating closet case...

[nirbija]

It can easily be scientifically concluded that homosexual deviance is a birth/behavior DEFECT!

The 'patient' was either born unhealthy, with mind-body disconnect

Or the homo 'patient' was born healthy; but was severely sodomized & traumatized by an adult pervert while young, & so grows up with the delusion that 'mating' with the same gender is 'OK'!

In extreme cases of homosexual deviance, the 'patient' will be inclined to cut out healthy body parts in the hopes of achieving mind & body 'fit'

[bartlebybartleby]

how ironic. his wife is married to an ass.

[HORNHost]

Kinda horse-faced, himself, ain't he?

"Horsey is as horsey does!"

[ROOKTABULA]

Those statements came from the type of mind that spends time contemplating such actions.

Like many Repugnicans, it's likely a bit of the Shakespeare, that they live OUt in public over and over and over:

"Methinks thou dost protest too much,", ya horse fukker!

[mummbleswers]

I doubt it would promote bestiality but if it did then who the fuck cares? Isn't part of living in a "free" country that well... you have freedom? I wouldn't bring this up if conservatives weren't always talking about how they're losing their freedoms (with no evidence of anything lost since Jan. of '09) and then turn around and take it from other people. If a private church doesn't want to marry you then fine but Gov. should have no role in defining marriage in a "free" country.

[Hirnlego999]

Columbia (the country) doesn't allow gay marriage yet humping donkeys seems to be very common. Google "Asses of the Caribbean"

[gvt2u]

OK, I heard what he said... but just look at his picture. That man is GAY GAY GAY GAY!!!

[theesch]

WILL THESE IDIOTS STOP COMPARING GAY MARRIAGE...TO MARRYING AN ANIMAL OR HOUSEHOLD OBJECT?!? guaranteed, the first moron to marry his pet or barnyard animal will be a STRAIGHT hillbilly with the IQ of pee...

[theesch]

WILL THESE IDIOTS STOP COMPARING GAY MARRIAGE...TO MARRYING ANIMALS OR HOUSEHOLD OBJECTS?!? guaranteed...the first moron to try to get married to his pet or a farmyard animal...will be a STRAIGHT hillbilly with the IQ of pee...

[dingysd]

Didn't he do gay porn in the 1980's? Or do I have him confused with some guy at the baths?

[noodles91380]

If by truth, you mean that there's nothing wrong with it aside from the fear mongering perpetuated by the religious right, which is primarily based on their own insecurities and fears....then, I guess I'll disagree with you.

[SeparateisntEqual]

To all of you saying he's a closeted gay man: just FYI, we don't want him.

[whosyourmatty]

Hey, Douchebag... If you don't like the idea of gay marriage then I have a suggestion for you... DON'T GET GAY MARRIED. It really is just that simple, Wingnut.

[historygeek2007]

Another brilliant statement from the right. WHY do these douche bags keep getting elected?

[BonsaiBlog]

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of having gay marriage compared to bestiality. Do these people know how offensive that is?

[nirbija]

What level of ignorance & decadence has Western world sunken, when an ancient institution as marriage has to be give written definition -- solemnizing ritual of male-female mating

The perverted christian sodomites, shoulder most of the blame for this wretched situaion in christian/western societies

By sodomizing & traumatizing so many children going back generations, the filth-stirring perverts of the Christian institutions of Child Sodomy have caused homosexual deviance to spread far & wide

[SeparateisntEqual]

@nirbija LOL that's some brilliant scientific thinking you've got there.

[nirbija]

Not that the weak, filthy and mixed-up mind of a homo is capable of appreciating 'scientific thinking'.

Tell us: Were you born with the homosexual birth defect; or were you sodomized as a child, and then suffered the delusion that the homosexual abnormality is 'OK'?

Because those are the two ways of acquiring the homosexual deviance -- being born with the mind-body defect, or being sodomized severely as an unfortunate young person.

[noodles91380]

Wow, your warped thinking is astonishing. Homosexuality is not a defect you moron. And being sodomized as a child does not turn you gay...there's no proof whatsoever that that is remotely true.

[nirbija]

It can easily be scientifically concluded that homosexual deviance is a birth/behavior DEFECT!

The 'patient' was either born unhealthy, with mind-body disconnect

Or the homo 'patient' was born healthy; but was severely sodomized & traumatized by an adult pervert while young, & so grows up with the delusion that 'mating' with the same gender is 'OK'!

MANY fagots were 'produced', while young, by the perverts in Catholic Christian Institutions of Child Sodomy! They grow up to sodomize children!

[noodles91380]

Wow...I can't believe I'm even wasting my time on you. What on earth is a "mind-body disconnect"? Please cite sources. Please also cite scientific sources that it is a birth defect.

You do realize there is a difference between homosexuals and pedophiles right? So when you say people grow up to sodomize children, you're talking about pedophiles, not homosexuals.

Until you can actually cite facts and sources, there is no way what you say holds any merit whatsoever.

[nirbija]

See, that's just how messed up is the mind of the homosexual

If one seeks to 'mate' with another of the SAME gender, that is homosexuality. It matters not the age difference!

Perverted christian males who sodomize young boys are HOMOSEXUALS!

Now, if one is born with a cock yet craves another cock, that is a defect

Having one cock is enough for normal humans

If one is born with a cunt yet craves another cunt, that is a defect

Having one cunt is enough for normal humans, the vast majority!

[noodles91380]

your opinion of what is a "defect" or "normal" are just that, opinions, not facts. And...with phrases like "born with a cunt yet craves another cunt"...who can argue with something so eloquently put!

And again, no scientific sources cited.

[nirbija]

Actually, I am the 'scientific source'!

Anyway, if you can't even appreciate that birth 'defect' & 'normal' behaviors can be rigorously defined, and not mere 'opinions', then you aren't going to be able to handle any 'scientific source'

If one is born with a male body (having a cock) & a female mind (that yearns for cocks) then that IS NOT 'normal'; because the vast majority (choose any LARGE percent you like) of humans since the dawn of man ARE NOT so inclined!

That is fact! Not 'opinion'.

[noodles91380]

You can't cite yourself as a scientific source moron. Do you know how citing works??

By your definition, if a certain human characteristic is in the vast minority, it is a defect. So, I guess red hair is a defect, being over 6'6" is a defect, etc etc.

There is no literature in the modern scientific community that describes homosexuality as a defect, so I can actually appreciate the definition. I'm imploring you to come up with a source that proves me wrong.

[nirbija]

No, homosexuality isn't a birth defect merely by being a deviant characteristics throughout the long history of man

However, by being a deviance, it invites the question of its benefit to individual or to society

And because this deviance has no individual or

socially redeeming value, it IS a defect!

In addition & in extreme cases, this birth defect leads some to slice & dice HEALTHY body parts in order to achieve some sense of mind-body 'fit'

Normal people DO NOT cut out healthy body parts!

[noodles91380]

I don't even know where to begin with the holes in your logic...you contradict yourself more times than I can count.

But again, you can't cite yourself as a scientific source, and more importantly, I could never cite you as one either. Imagine if I submitted an article claiming that homosexuality is a defect and as my source I said, nirbija of youtube told me that "a cunt that craves cunt is a defect."

I'd surely get published!

[nirbija]

You can actually 'cite Nirbija of Youtube', provided you also cite the reason for coming to the valid conclusion that homosexuality IS a birth/behavioral defect

Any so-called scientist worth his salt, who understands how the Scientific Method can deliver Valid Knowledge, should have no problem coming to the same conclusion

In extreme cases of homosexuality, so-called transsexuals, many patients have irresistible urge to slice & dice HEALTHY body parts, which non-defective minds DO NOT do!

[noodles91380]

what you are doing is conflating homosexuals with transsexuals. And don't people have a right do what they want with their own bodies? you could view piercings and tattoos as mutilation too...is that a result of a birth defect as well?

If you can cite yourself and your rants on youtube in a medical journal as scientific proof, I implore you to get published, you'll be rich.

Name me a scientist who is peer reviewed and respected who holds the same viewpoint as you.

[nirbija]

There is no so-called 'conflating' of homosexuals with transsexuals

What has been happening, is that mixed up and deceptive homosexual minds delude themselves that transsexuals are not homosexuals

A transsexual seeks to 'mate' with someone of the SAME gender, of the same reproductive organ! That is homosexuality!

Only, transsexualism is a severe case of the birth defect! Difference in degree; but NOT different in kind!

And yes! The world, & THEY too, would be fine if fagots were never born!

[noodles91380]

So, what would you do if you had a son, who you loved dearly, who grew up to be a contributing member of society, but said to you one day "dad, I'm a homosexual and have been my whole life"? Would you say to your son, who you have loved his whole life, that you wish he were never born? If it's a "birth defect" as you put it, can you blame your son anymore that you can blame a child who is born with a cleft palate? Would tell your son you wish he were banished on an island somewhere?

[nirbija]

For those born with birth defects, we seek CURE!

We don't have them delude themselves that they are 'normal', when clearly they are not!

And since EVERYONE is born with one birth defect or another, the problem with the fagots is not so much the birth defect, but the learned & perverted BEHAVIOR, which has no redeeming value for the individual or for the society!

Homosexuality is far & away worse than the deadliest cancer; because with cancer there is no possible self-delusion of being 'normal'

[noodles91380]

well, you really can't speak for the individual if the behavior has a redeeming value. This all stems from your own insecurities...who cares what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms?? It has no effect on humanity or society as a hole.

If a hetero person prefers, say, oral sex over regular sex, is that also deviant because it doesn't result in procreation? Or, perhaps a person is born with a low sex drive, and just prefers not to engage in sexual activity, is that also deviant?

[nirbija]

Responsible members of a society ALWAYS decide what are and what are not socially 'redeeming'!

That is how societies are designed. It's never anything goes for ANY society!

If acts are really private, then the public can't know to care?

So it is the public condoning & public promoting of homosexual perversion that draws the rebuke

Some individuals aren't inclined to mate; that is fine.  That is a fine 'deviance'!

Fagots should join them; & save themselves; because

'Better dead than gay'!

[noodles91380]

but again, I listed a whole slew of open homosexuals who society has deemed incredibly redeeming as people. Geniuses, leaders, and artists who would likely be able to do a better job leading or creating if they didn't have to deal with intolerant oppressive fucks like yourself.

At its core, homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody except for those who are insecure in their own sexuality. Perhaps you should look deep within your own self before rebuking others.

[valkyrie17s]

Nirbija...you talk like a terrorist, or any other warped person with extremist views.

[Blairtim69]

Clearly gays are normal people born with a natural need to couple with someone of the same sex.

You can't cure what is not a defect.

Gays have many redeeming values to offer society.

We have been and are, great generals, artists, scientists, leaders, and good common people.

Your insults are degrading and de-humanizing.

I am sorry you are so afraid, and hateful, but I don't think there is anything I could say to make you realise how this hurts you and society.

[Blairtim69]

Transsexuals are not homosexual.

Transsexuals are emotionally the opposite gender they were born.

They have to go through years of therapy, to make sure changing their gender would actually benifit them.

I do not know the details of their emotional struggle, and transformation.

I know two post-op transsexual women, and they are well adjusted successful people.

[nirbija]

@Blairtim69 ALL homos are emotionally fcuked up.

So-called transsexuals are merely worst case scenarios!

It's just a difference in degree of homosexual mind-body deviance; it's not a difference in kind of mental-physical mix up.

The 'details of their emotional struggles' are just worse than those of other fagots, who delude themselves that they are somehow 'normal' human beings. They ARE NOT!

So-called transsexuals too far gone to not know that they are not normal

[Blairtim69]

Transsexuals are not homosexual.

We are not all emotionally ill.

We are as healthy as the rest of society.

Of cours there are some gays with issues, just like straight folk, as you are a prime example.

Your hate, fear, and bigotry has made you an insulting de-humanizing person.

[nirbija]

A homosexual is an individual who has an abnormal and unnatural 'mating' affinity for someone who is born with the SAME physical reproductive system!

That accurate definition clearly includes so-called transsexuals, who are merely only more extreme cases of the SAME homosexual birth defect!

Because an individual's emotional state is PERSONAL & PRIVATE, practical people pay attention PRIMARILY to characteristics of BODIES & BEHAVIORS of ALL homos, which can be more directly validated by others

[valkyrie17s]

nirbija...how about perverted males who rape young girls? A paedophile is a paedophile (and most paedophiles are straight males). ALL paedophiles are scum.

Being homeosexual does NOT make a man a paedophile (and no paedophile is a REAL man).

And if two men or two women are consenting adults, what's the problem? it's not your business or mine.

[nirbija]

If you live outside of society, then others cannot know or care how you live in private or in public.

However, when one lives in a society, then one IS accountable for one's behavior, & especially accountable for one's PUBLIC behavior; because one's behavior has an impact on others!

And every society that would be healthy, will never want societally worthless behaviors, like homosexual perversion, to be passed on to the younger/weaker minds in the society

[valkyrie17s]

nirbija...what ARE you gibbering about?

Same sex marriage does not mean public sex...and only a moron would get upset if two men or two women held hands in public.

Instead of being upset about two people loving each other, why don't you get hot under the collar about child abuse or war or rape or something else that's actually offensive.

[nirbija]

May not mean 'public sex' (although some homo perverts are so engaged); but when it means public condoning & promoting of destructive & societally worthless behaviors, then concerned citizens MUST take a stand for the health and well being of their society!

There are going to be many societally worthless behaviors; and ALL can be persecuted vigorously and SIMULTANEOUSLY!

Homo deviants can go live & reproduce by themselves on an island some place; healthy people WILL NOT care!

[valkyrie17s]

nirbija...are you capable of rational thought? Gay people don't have a negative effect on society...they are just like everyone else. They live their lives just like the rest of us, pay their taxes and work for a living.

Your talk of persecution seems a bit extreme...it's fine to prosecute criminals ( I don't think the laws allow you to persecute them), but not people who are different from you.

Why are you so frightened of gay people?

[nirbija]

Actually MOST laws throughout humans history DOES allow the perverted homosexuals to be persecuted and prosecuted for their degenerate and 'criminal' BEHAVIOR, which has no socially redeeming value.

And homosexual deviance DO have 'negative effect', especially for the younger/weaker minds in the society. That is why the vast majority of human societies since time immemorial have ALWAYS outlawed this perversion! It is a 'killer' of societies. Just ask the homo greeks, who were easily overrun

[noodles91380]

Leonardo Di Vinci, Socrates, Alexander the Great, Walt Whitman, Leonard Bernstein, Tchaikovsky, Michelangelo, Julius Caesar, Langston Hughes and a million other talented and amazing statesmen, philosophers, scientists, artists, musicians and authors were gay, who all contributed greatly to the betterment of mankind... and you're saying that we could have stuck them all on an island and they won't be missed?

[SeparateisntEqual]

Really? And you have the empirical evidence of this theory? LOL Yeah, you're a real scientist. Thanks for the laugh, loser.

[secure214]

This argument is absurd... I suppose he thinks people could also marry a spider, or a flea, a roach, your local raccoon, or friendly squirrel?

How will a horse sign a marriage certificate? Can the horse file a joint tax return? Would a horse be required to take an STD test before marriage?

He's a Teabagging Lunatic, just like Palin and the rest...

[realnarutoboy]

@secure214

Your argument is the one that's absurd. Your defense against allowing someone to marry an animal is, "It wouldn't be able to sign a marriage certificate." That's weak, and hypocritical. Why all of sudden does your position change once we start talking about another type of marriage. If that person feels that the relationship they have with their animal is meaningful and geniune, and they're not hurting anyone, or each other, why is it your business what they decide to do?

[Blairtim69]

Your arguement is degrading and insulting.

Why would you want to promote marriage between a human and an animal?

Why would you try to connect the fight for gay marriage with bestiality?

Because your arguments have no basis.

[realnarutoboy]

@Blairtim69

Because, just like gay people, their are people, who, in their hearts, believe that their relationship with animals is real and true. Why is that so hard for you to understand? And if the argument for gay marriage has been, "how does it effect you?" Why doesn't the same apply to these other relationships?

How do you know how large or small the pop is? 2. Why deny someone the same rights that you're fighting for based on the number of individuals doing it? Who's the bigot now.

[Iconoclastocles]

@realnarutoboy - Animals aren't granted the legal rights we have, and don't have legal obligations either (like paying taxes). An animal's inability to own property or obtain a license for themselves would preclude their participation in a legal institution such as marriage. I would deny people marrying animals because it can't make legal sense.

Same sex marriage however can and does make legal sense - 2 consenting adults entering a civil union of shared benefits and obligation (taxes).

[realnarutoboy]

@Iconoclastocles

Gays at one point in time weren't given the same legal rights. You can't use the law as a defense in an argument largely about CHANGING the law (accepting/legalizing gay marriage). And what does paying taxes have to do with someone loving someone else enough to want to marry that person/thing?

[Iconoclastocles]

@realnarutoboy - there are two separate arguments: one for gay marriage and another against bestial marriage.

Marriage isn't simply people loving each other: anyone can have that already. It's the union of civil legal obligations that results also in other benefits like tax breaks.

My point is this: animals are not legally recognized as citizens, so they don't have the same benefits and obligations as humans. Taxes, licenses, and owning property are examples to demonstrate this.

[Iconoclastocles]

@realnarutoboy -  I didn't argue that any laws couldn't be changed, just that there is no legal framework for animals to be granted rights like marriage because they are not legally defined in a way where the rights of citizens can be applied to them. Surely that's not too hard to understand.

However this is not the case for gay people in the United States who are citizens. They have always had the protections of the law, and obligations, that other citizens have.

[Iconoclastocles]

@realnarutoboy - So gay folks are required to pay taxes, obey all the laws you or I must obey, and are also granted through the Constitution all the rights we have.

Marriage is a legal institution. If religious folks in our country want to claim it, then our government should get out of the marriage business and simply classify everything as a "civil union." Then we should grant access to that right to all citizens in all states.

[realnarutoboy]

@secure214

Like I told another user, as a gay marriage proponent, you can't use status quo, the law, as an argument against another form of marriage.

[hotblondie111]

poor idiot! You won't be getting my vote! We already had an ignorant in power for 8 years! Can't allow to have your ignorant ass talking non sense in Arizona!

[mhirtes12]

Hayworth fears man-horse relationships because it would make his sheep jealous.

[Dalhyp]

Bestiality is legal in Texas so shouldn't gay marriage be as well?

[clintatl]

He's got a point... after all, his wife married a jackass.

[homerth]

Much as I would like to say good-bye to John McCain, the thought of this horse-fucker becoming Senator is very scary.

[HenhousetheRed]

Because clearly two consenting, intelligent human adults engaging in typical human sexual activities shared by much of the species already is comparable to having sex with an animal.

Your crew cut offends me.

[curedrethug]

He's either gay or a horsefucker or a gay horsefucker.

Gay is okay but horsefucking is wrong and he should be ashamed of himself for fucking innocent horses.

That's right. JD Hayworth is a horsefucker.

[mikescorpio]

Isn't the straight man term "Getting me some pussy" akin to beastiality?

[KyleHRLorde]

a dumbass american right winged fool...you know why he'd think this, because only in america would some redneck want to marry a horse...

[iomega]

To be fair, JD Hayworth likes to do it with a horse.

[HenhousetheRed]

Sounds like J.D. is a size queen.

[Sage80]

To be fair, that would probably turn you on.

[Hdtexan]

J.D.....does this mean YOU'RE a horse fucker? Is that the only species that will touch you???

[Blairtim69]

What an absolutely offensive person.

Not only is his argument rediculous, but insulting and dehumanizing as well.

People like this have no business doing work representing the public.

[Sage80]

You haven't been paying attention to the argument, and you can't spell. Everyone has limitations on who should participate in marriage. No one cares if you're offended, I hate to break it to you.

The argument is valid insofar as one asks what leads one to arbitrarily argue that marriage should ONLY include consenting humans? WHich standard says this? (which is BS since I don't hear anyone making any arguments of allowing relational marriages)

[Blairtim69]

No one is making arguments for incest, because there is no support for it.

Incest creates genetic mutations. His argument is not valid.

How is a horse suppose to consent to marriage.

The argument is absolutely offensive and dehumanizing.

I don't care what you think of my spelling.

[realnarutoboy]

You're an idiot. I think the people that engage in incest, and there are plenty of those, are in support of it. So what you just said is not true. Second of all, incest doesn't just include heterosexual sex, so your excuse about mutations and all that, is lame. Third, I thought the pro-gay marriage movement was all about equality for all. You'd bar someone from marrying someone because their offspring MAY have a defect? Sex doesn't require marriage, genius.

[Blairtim69]

I don't knoow as much detail about incest as you do.

I don't think there are many people who would try to push for legal incest marriage. There has never been any type of movement in that area.

I believe you and other bigots like your self use incest and bestiality as a distraction and insult.

[realnarutoboy]

There wasn't a movement for gay marriage until enough people got together and made it one. This is the definition of a movement. The fact that there hasn't been any movement to legalize incest doesn't mean it isn't widely practiced.

And how am I a bigot? I'm just telling you the facts. I haven't even given you my position on gay marriage and you're already calling me a bigot. Maybe that's why so many states have rejected it, because how you all act.

[Blairtim69]

@realnarutoboy

Your a bigot, because you want to deny people, not just equality, but their humanity, beacuse of a characteristic. That is a text book definition of a bigot.

You also use incest, bestiality, diseased, and other definitions, to make a group of people less than you, even less than human.

You try to define and tie 10% of the human populatiion, to groups that have nothing to do with them.

[realnarutoboy]

@Blairtim69

Again, I haven't even given you my position on gay marriage. So, again, what are you talking about?

You are no better than people who engage in incest and the rest. That is what gay people and gay marriage proponents have to realize. They're different types of sex, yes, just as homosexuality is different than heterosexuality, but they all deviate from our natural attractions (which is to the opposite sex, in the same species).

[realnarutoboy]

@Blairtim69

By the way, did you notice the "zoophile" who posted below? How dare you deny people like him or her the right to marry the animal, or animals, they love. You're a bigot!

[mikescorpio]

What a Horse's Ass!

[hbfarker]

I had no idea that a horse could consent to an adult relationship. What a brilliant man this Mr. Hayworth is. Perhaps a more appropriate job for such intellect would be the greeter at Walmart.

[Sage80]

So can siblings. Should marriages between them also be allowed?

[Cosmo19640]

When a republican is that strong against gays, it's because he's gay.

[drwas]

He has a GAY face.

Closet Homosexual.

[steerpike66]

Damn right. My gaydar is bleeping. This guy is a closet fag.

[noodles91380]

Yes, of course, since a horse can sign a paper and establish consent.

10 bucks says this guy is closet homosexual (since historically you only have to look as far as the most vocal anti-gay voice out there).

[noodles91380]

Likening the conclusion that gay marriage will pave the way for man/animal marriage to the illegal immigration problem in the US? That's a bit of a stretch

The reason illegals are working in the US is because it's under the table. Can't really have an under the table marriage can we? Since the point of allowing gay people the right to get married is to allow them the same benefits under the law.

[Sage80]

Weak argument. Who says that verbal/written consent should be the standard? Youre arbitrary. By what standard do you impose YOUR definition of marriage on those who would marry animals?

Whether or not he is a closet homosexual (which he isn't) is irrelevant to any argument. Are you saying it's wrong to be a closet homosexual? You're betraying yourself then.

Groups can also establish consent. Who are you to say marriage should only be between two persons? Arbitrary arguments are unconvincing.

[noodles91380]

Weak argument? No weaker than, say, gay marriage will usher in man/animal matrimony, legalized pedophilia, six men marrying a box turtle and a lamp, etc etc. It's all arbitrary, the anti-gay crowd just drew their own arbitrary line at 1 man/1 woman.

As for him being a closet homo, how on earth do you know he isn't? People were just as sure that Ted Haggard, Roy Ashburn, Larry Craig, and a host of other anti-gay politicians. I'm just pointing out that there's a correlation...

[noodles91380]

...between the vocal anti-gay politicians and being closet cases.

There's nothing wrong with being closeted, but there IS something wrong with being gay and making it your life's work to deny gay rights. That would be like Obama stumping to reinstate slavery. No worse than a white person pushing for slavery, but it's a hell of head scratcher

There's a reason the closeted are the most vocal anti-gay politicians, because the straight comfortable in their own sexuality have bigger fish to fry.

[BorislavX]

No, actually it is not.

Obama can not choose not to be black, while homosexuals can choose not to marry or have homosexual sex.

Life style choices and race are quite different.

[noodles91380]

I'm not saying its a perfect analogy, but I'm saying that there's odd sense of closeted homosexuals betraying their true nature by being such vociferous opponents to gay rights. It must just be a manifestation of insecurity, self loathing, and fear. It's a real shame actually.

[LyinOfJudah]

@BorislavX people can choose not to be religious. Therefore, when the Roman Empire turned Christians into lion shit, it didn't violate their civil rights.

[realnarutoboy]

What an incredibly dumb argument. As a supporter of gay marriage (which was illegal at one point), you can't use status quo, the law, as an argument against allowing someone to marry something that the law SAYS can't consent.

[Blairtim69]

Gay marriage is still illeagle.

We also are not protected by the anti-discrimination laws.

They cover race, gender, national origin, age, and religion, not sexual orientation.

Some states, countys, or cities have included us in their anti-discrimination laws.

Virgina recently removed us, and sent out letters to state agencys, telling them than can and should discriminate against gays.

I hope a few gay companies fire their staight employees, because of their orientation.

[clintatl]

Why is it always the gay Republicans that go out to bash other gays in order to get votes?